March 5th, 2013

Andy Burnham is Deadly Serious

At the height of the Healthcare Bill’s passage through parliament former Labour Health Secretary Andy Burnham was left looking like an idiot when he declared that the were just “two weeks to save the NHS”. The Bill became an Act and healthcare in Brtiain remained massively centralised and free at the point of entry. Well he’s back, and this this time he “means it”:

So was it just spin and bluster last time?

Burnham all but went to ground during the fallout from the Francis Report. Given what happened on their watch up in Staffordshire, he should probably avoid using the words “fatal” and “Labour” in the same sentence. But it’s fine, he really means it “this time”.


140 Comments

  1. 1
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Burnham “2 weeks 2 save #NHS…Labour has tabled a fatal motion.” Wrong words re death rate Mid Staffs.

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    • 10
      Jim says:

      He just beggars belief. If nobody is held to account for what happened what is the point?

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      • 26
        Mike Hunt says:

        It’s a liebour fuck-up so you are right, no one will be help accountable.
        A Tory allegedly (and found to be fitted up by the plod) insulting a policeman is thrown to the wolves.

        It’s called politics in the post B£iar/Brown era.

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          Terrible But True says:

          Oddly, most such Labour utterances are default #prasnews by our national opposition’s most trusted PR agency, but they seem to have…wisely… adopted a more wait and see approach to this pearl of wisdom so far:

          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health/

          After low to no mention during the Stafford period, the redactions appear to be extending further.

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          • Haribo Halfwit says:

            I must have missed the memo where the world was instructed to autocorrect the Oldspeak word ‘censored’ to the acceptable Newspeak ‘redacted’.

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        • 101
          Anonymous says:

          Why have the media not made more of the Labour party involvement in Staffordshire ? i can just imagine the situation if it had been the Conservatives.

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          • genghiz the kahn says:

            Q: Who were you accountable to?

            Nicholson says that at the time he was accountable to Nigel Crisp, then head of the NHS. When he became chief executive, he was accountable to the health secretary, then Patricia Hewitt.

            Goes to ground faster than a gassed badger.

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          • BBC - Labour Says, Labour Says. says:

            We are rabbitting on about over 1000 people killed at the last election in Kenya 5 years ago but hardly ever mention the fact that Burham was responsible for 1200 deaths in Stafford UK.
            We must protect our Labour fellow comrades, comrades.

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      • 27
        Hugh Janus says:

        And the Heir to Blair is in complete denial! What a bloody insult for the families of those the NHS killed, and thousands more who were neglected whilst in their care. Par for the course I suppose for someone who has no political instinct and who lives on a completely different planet from the rest of us. Oh, and he’s not a Conservative and he’s not really very bright, either.

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        • 48
          Anonymous says:

          It is further evidence of disregard for the people by politicons of all parties.

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          • Putr1d, spiteful Labour ruined my Country says:

            The National Death Service is not fit for purpose thanks to Labour. The guilty responsible for bumping off the elderly by the thousands must be brought to account starting with the CEO.

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          • Anonymous says:

            I see what you did there, insinuating that it wasnt just Labour who were responsible for mid staffs, well you are wrong it was labour and only labour got it ?

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        • 123
          Uncle Joe says:

          Sounds like your NHS is a Gulag I should know I’ve started a few. Send your elite into one of these ‘hospitals’ for some minor surgery and see how many come out without contracting a lethal infection. Any that do shoot them.

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          • Devil's Dumplings says:

            I’m surprised no one’s noticed the following time-line:

            Betty vists NHS Hospital

            Betty goes down with Gastroenteritis for 4 days

            Cause/effect??

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      • 57
        Popeye says:

        This man should definitely be sectioned.

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      • 86
        Anonymous says:

        “what happened”. Consider the phrase “what is happening”.

        If someone was brainwashed to think that denying food, water and essential nutrients to patients was right, what has changed their mind. The NHS is still staffed from the top to bottom with the same people. Those who were brainwashed into a certain care(less) level.

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        • 124
          Uncle Joe says:

          Sounds like an NKVD torture routine to me, but what do i know! You have a real ‘Doctors Plot’ on your hands here I would say.

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        • 138
          Anonymous says:

          What baffles me, if people werent being given food and drink, what were their relatives doing ? before you say” they didnt have relatives “well they are certainly making enough noise now arent they ? the whole thing is very odd.

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      • 102
        Ray says:

        That’s the trouble, no one ever gets held to account! They are able to do as much damage as they want and just simply carry on as if nothing has happened. Burnham was consistently on TV, excoriating the Tories, but since Stafford he has hardly been seen, Motto: lie low for a while until it blows over.

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    • 12
      Lord Mandelbum of Fondleboys says:

      Despicable scare tactics to defend a socialist monolith that needs to be taken apart such that the money follows the patient, rather than the NHS be a system that exists solely to serve itself.

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      Working hard every day says:

      What a plonker

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  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    What on earth is Andy Burnham for?

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  3. 3
    St Tony of Blah says:

    I absolve my apostle little Andy Burnham of any blame. It was all Margaret Thatcher and Gordon Brown’s fault.

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  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Serial killer

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  5. 6
    The Right Honourable George Osborne Mp says:

    Let me make this clear.

    Myself and other Conservative cabinet colleagues will not profit or benefit from the privatization of the NHS, I’m great at math also.

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    • 19

      Still -anything would be better than having LieBore back in control of the levers of power.
      It would be like asking Fred West to teach your daughters about basement conversions.

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    • 24
      M says:

      The public left to die in corridors while labours “target managers” sealed their carees with gold plates pensions on the taxes of their dying patients .

      NHS and patients not safe in labours hands

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    • 32
      Duty Pedant says:

      Arithmetic, thicko, not ‘math’ or even maths….

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    • 117
      Polymath says:

      This 25% reduction on deficit has now been running for over a year – what about progress on this and other issues like debt, you plonker?

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  6. 7
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Andy Burnham should be shamed into leaving public office for his failings in Staffs.

    And prosecuted for dereliction of duty.

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  7. 8
    M says:

    Mid Staffordshire hospital trust make Harold shipman look like an amateur

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  8. 9
    les says:

    He is showing, in all it’s glory Labour’s hypocrisy and sections of the media will go along with it – I despair!

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  9. 11
    Election Watcher says:

    From the photo it seems that Andy Burnham wants to end the NHS !!

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      Dave Cam the rare'un says:

      At first glance I agree but if you look close enough you can see the “D” in defend, amazing what you can do with a camera angle or even Photo Shop. Everyone remembers those tv and photo ops that Liebore ran with B’Liar, it became apparent what was really going on.

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  10. 13
    Spank Sinatra says:

    How can he begin to think that anyone will take the slightest notice of his concerns for the NHS when he was fast asleep at the wheel and which cost the lives of twelve hundred patients.

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  11. 14
    Fuck it says:

    ‘Sir’ Michael Shite was on the BBC this morning spouting his usual lefty bollocks about the NHS. He was trying to equate the scandals of the private health care homes (where a small number of people were mistreated) to the THOUSANDS murdered by the NHS and the Liebore party.

    Let’s be honest the Mid Staffs issue is the tip of an iceberg. What made me laugh about Sir Shite was how he simply excused the NHS.

    You can bet if the murders have happened under a Tory government, he wouldn’t be so easy going.

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  12. 21
    bergen says:

    If the Tories had any sense (which of course they don’t) they would hound Burnham with the Mid Staffs deaths – put them and him on a poster campaign. Alistair Campbell would have done it had the positions been reversed. But they will play the game and they will lose it.

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  13. 22
    Anne D Burnbum says:

    It would be nice to go on Newsnight with Julie Bailey .x

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  14. 29
    Dave Cam the rare'un says:

    The last shower that were in power started it, this present shower are trying to build on what the last lot started, whether they are sure of the previous foundations built by Liebore are strong enough to do what they want to do, I do not know. What they should do if they spend is not to go for the cheapest possible tender commonsense (not that common sense is very high in political circles) would suggest that corners might be cut and would ultimately cost more in maintenance or even worse not even fit for purpose, deviating from the NHS as an example with the proposed new aircraft carrier changed the layout to have another type of plane, then deciding against that change, adding 100’s of millions of pounds to the total cost of the carrier, general lack of joined up thinking.

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  15. 30
    AntiLeftoid says:

    Mid Staffs Hospital to be rebranded as The Harold Shipman Memorial in an effort to improve it’s public image. On a serious note, the NHS has been turned into a paper pushing organisation which concentrates on keeping it’s admin staff employed and well paid while the shop floor falls apart. Kick out the useless arseholes running the place and concentrate on healing people with a decent workforce of nurses.

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    • 34
      NHS hospitals = Deathcamps says:

      “Kick out the useless arseholes running the place and concentrate on healing people”

      If Camoron were going to do that, he’d have done it already. As it is, Camoron “fully supports” the NHS’s murderer-in-chief, Sir David Nicholson. So Camoron’s going to do nothing – he’s far too busy legalising gay marriage to be bothered with minor stuff like the mass-murder of the British public – and in just over 2 years’ time, he’ll be replaced by Ed Militwit (who definitely won’t interfere with Labour’s beloved NHS; the unions won’t let him), so the NHS deathcamps will continue to murder with complete impunity.

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      • 51
        AntiLeftoid says:

        The Unions.. another bunch of freeloading lefty tossers.

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      • 66
        Hard southerner says:

        Bring back Henry VIII style executive. The legal system won’t try nutters like Nicholson, so we need a minister to tell him he’s no longer on the public payroll, at all. It can’t be done? Well legislate for it you Nancies!

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    • 45
      Andy Burnhams Scythe Sharpening Service says:

      They could have a Fred West Garden, and a Josef Mengele paediatric unit.

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      • 60
        AntiLeftoid says:

        The Tony Blair psychiatric ward and the Lord Rennard department for Gynaecology.

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        • 65
          Andy Burnhams Scythe Sharpening Service says:

          and the Diane Abbotapotamus bariatric unit

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          • AntiLeftoid says:

            That unit will be fairly substantial, they would have to incorporate it with a unit for treating delusional lefty hypocrites.

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  16. 31
    Mr Observant says:

    The van in that photo appears to be parked on a double yellow line.

    Does Andy Burnam approve of parking offences, or is it OK when Labour do it?

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  17. 33
    Andy Burnhams Scythe Sharpening Service says:

    NHS in my day meant – Necrophagous Habromania Sacralgia

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  18. 35
    This time I wish she was eating. says:

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  19. 37
    Owin Jones says:

    Paddy pulls up at a red light beside a gorgeous young woman, smiles at her and lowers his window.

    The woman smiles back and also lowers her window.

    “Ah,” says Paddy, “so you farted too?”

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  20. 43
    Steve Miliband says:

    You walked into the party
    Like you were walking onto a yacht
    Your hat strategically dipped below one eye
    Your scarf it was apricot
    You had one eye in the mirror
    As you watched yourself gavotte
    And all the girls dreamed that they’d be your partner
    They’d be your partner, and

    You’re so vain
    You probably think this scandal isn’t about you

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  21. 52
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD and COD FATHER of SOLE says:

    So the sign now reads “Knob End the NHS” ?

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  22. 59
    Robust stakeholder community champion says:

    Ah, Burnham. The man who signed loads of NHS Privatisation contracts who now slams the NHS for outsourcing some of its work.

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    • 81
      BBC policy guru says:

      A major change in NHS policy means that GPs are going to be at the forefront of wielding power to commission alternative models of providers in the NHS, something many critics are calling the first privatisation of the NHS. In the past when Labour entered into contracts with outsourced providers this was more of an efficiency deal with the funerals sector, so cannot be called a privitisation. Learn to speak BBC.

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      • 87
        Bushy Park says:

        If you get the gardening contract, is that a privetisation?

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        • 100
          BBC policy guru says:

          Yes, we’ll have Asad Ahmed, Victoria Hollins and Louisa Preston do an exposé but not Chris Rogers as he’s freelance, so better not eh?

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  23. 61
    Maybelline says:

    We are dropping Andy Burnham as the fæces of our range due to bad publicity.

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  24. 63
    Owin Jones says:

    The key to life is to not give a fuck.

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  25. 64
    Andy Burnham says:

    I’ve got a job on Channel 4 as anchor for a new light entertainment program.

    Its called, PFI Friday and will run until the budget has gone

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  26. 67
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Burnham is total scum. He reflects labour’s real attitude towards the people of the UK.

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  27. 68
    Labour's final solution says:

    The main problem is that ethnic cleansing in Britain is just progressing far too slowly. it’s still hideously white in parts and regretably un Marxist.

    The NHS death camp plicies were introduced by Unite to accelerate modernization and transition to vibrant multi-cilti paradise.

    Sorry I missed “stakeholder” but can I still get a Bliar buzzword bingo prize?

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  28. 69
    Welsh activist. says:

    Let’s get a petition going to get Burnham prosecuted. It will go nowhere, but if we can get enough signatures to initiate a commons debate it might embarrass the f*ck out of him, and put an end to his hubris.

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  29. 70
    Colonel Madd says:

    For Fucks Sake……….where the hell are the Tories on this one???????????????

    Cameron should be all over this like a cheap suit.Instead they’re letting Labour in general ,and the greasy tick Burnmam in particular just walk out from under it.

    Questions
    a) Did Labour and/or Burnham approve pay outs with gagging clauses in them either in general or above a certain threshold? Difficult to think that figures approaching £1 Million weren’t flagged at Richmond House
    b) Were firms or individuals tacitly or openly used by Trusts to massage mortality rates and what did NuLabia know about this? (Hint; if they knew something =culpable,…if they knew nothing =fucktards)
    c) If a BUPA hospital had bumped off 1,200 people how long would it have been before Burnham would have been asking for Corporate Manslaughter charges???
    d) Why hasn’t Cameron called for an emergency two day debate on the NHS and shut down all PR output from all other Ministries until this has happened?
    e)Why aren’t the police involved in this-we have 40 cops investigating Plebgate but none looking at any of these deaths
    f) Why hasn’t Burnham been called by the Select Committee?
    g) Why were the GraunyBeeb allowed to quite openly steer the agenda onto the horse meat ishooo (no one dead,storm in a teacup)?

    The simple truth is that Cameron simply has no feel for when he should use the bayonet on Labour and simultaneously help ordinary people in this country get the health service they pay for and deserve

    Effete Tory Wanker

    P.S Well done at getting to level 9 on Angry Birds Dave

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  30. 73
    CPS says:

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      Andy Burnham & Alan Johnson says:

      LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA….

      2 weeks later…

      Its all the Tories fault

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    • 78
      BBC says:

      Never. It was the Tory led coalition.

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  31. 74
    Sir William Wade says:

    Many peope’s attitude to the NHS is based on a series of illusions:

    1. “Healthcare is free.” No, it’s a question of who pays for it, and how.

    2. “The NHS is in crisis.” When wasn’t it? Whatever happens, it will either become slightly better, or slightly worse, or stay about the same.

    3. “There is an acceptable level of healthcare that we could achieve if only we did X.” Demand for healthcare is unlimited and there is no level at which we woukd decide that we had all the healthcare we wanted and could find no use for any more.

    4. “We must/mustn’t privatise the NHS.” All of the drugs, equipment, beds, buildings, dressing, IT systems etc. are already provided by the private sector; all that the state really supplies is the money and the management. The money could be supplied through compulsory health insurance (which would end the hugely wasteful PFI scam). Whether state or private management is better is open to debate.

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    • 92
      Bushy Park says:

      Are not a lifetime’s NI contributions tantamount to compulsory health insurance?

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      • 110
        hold them to ac says:

        As a lowly peasant compared to Sir Wade, I would wholeheartedly agree with NI contributions and taxes we all pay being sufficient. Several interesting problems really exist: health tourism within the EU, and most costly of all, PFI to build sparkly new buildings, surprisingly? many in labour marginals, along with shiny Surestart centres and schools that barely scrape pass grades when under council control. Never has a more expensive group of buildings been seen in British History.

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    • 127
      Irwin Snodgrass IV says:

      Problem Sir William is that these Liebore politicians are ideological slogan merchants without
      common sense or common decency.

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  32. 75
    Lee says:

    What a load of left wing biased bullshit ‘The Wright Stuff’ on channel 5 is, completely out of touch with popular feeling.

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    • 90
      hold them to ac says:

      When it comes to public spending debates on daytime talk shows the clue is in the daytime bit, they don’t get Labour callers in and staffers for nothing. How many hours have we got to save the NHS by voting UKIP, after all it’s not like under the current law they can sack any negligent civil servant, is it? Reform. Now.

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  33. 77
    Steve Miliband says:

    Never mind ‘Justice for the 96′, how about ‘Justice for 1200’?(from one hospital)

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    • 93
      Whitehall says:

      As a leading permanent private secretary, I find all of these comments whimsical. As no-one has been guilty of wrongdoing bar a few nurses, who have in some cases lost their jobs: nothing is wrong with the management. Simple research by the learned reports finds this. People manage themselves in the public sector, and enjoy therefore associated rights until they hope, reaching a certain echelon, well, in these higher pay grades managing the minister and PR is more than enough of a headache than being expected to take true responsibility for things that go wrong. As for the idea of a minister being lawfully allowed to sack us, preposterous, we’ll go on strike and see if you can manage the minions yourselves. I think not. (Well sounds true at first hearing).

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  34. 83
    The Right Honourable George Osborne Mp says:

    My colleagues Hunt and Lansley want Nicholson to continue doing a great job. (Sniggers)

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  35. 94
    Labour hypocrite says:

    Is Burnham’s PPS Debbie Abrahams. The same Debbie A who quit as chair of Rochdale PCT(2006) over radical changes which will “destroy the NHS as we know it.”
    The same Debbie A who lashed out at the government drive to increase the use of private health providers in the NHS.
    THAT WOULD BE A LABOUR GOVERNMENT WOULD IT ! Surprised the Tories don’t make more of this.

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  36. 95
    Centre Parting says:

    If the Unions had had their way on corporate manslaughter laws, Burnham and Johnson would be in trouble.

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    • 97
      PCS Union says:

      You neglect to include in your calculations the senior union which runs the outfit. This is why the public sector is immune from corporate manslaughter, which is in law. The Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Act 2007

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      • 99
        Welsh activist. says:

        Yet another Bliar legacy that ranks among that part of the treason act that could have seen him, and the Queen ominously hung by the neck until dead, theoretically.

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        • 107
          Point of information says:

          Hang on a second Welshie boy, the Queen’s not overstepped the almost complete quelling of royal powers in the Bill of Rights so we can’t wheedle out the axeman yet, Blair on the other hand has the benefit of parliamentary privilege and obviously has friends in the Hague as regards international law on his stance in Iraq: moreover Bush must have even more support than Blair so as not to have faced trial.

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          • Welsh activist. says:

            I admire your patriotism, i’m a patriot too. I quite like the royal family, but still think the Queen is a treacherous c*nt.

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  37. 113
    Jimmy says:

    “Burnham all but went to ground during the fallout from the Francis Report”

    The grauniad’s circulation is not what it was I grant you but that’s a little bitchy.

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    • 116
      Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill (and 1st class passenger!) says:

      Gerry here. Oh it is isn’t it: titillates the evening’s discourse with Margot. We tend to think you’d join us in voting for Vince who is right on most things. However we hope also that you would retract what you seem to put about the Guardian as it is ever so correct. Speak later, once we have moved out of 2 Riverside Villas owing to an oil magnate moving in before fear of the mansion tax arrives. Ciao!

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  38. 129
    Anonymous says:

    The photo seems to say: “End our NHS”, which, of course, Labour tried to do when they forced all Trusts to put a chunk of their services out to tender, paying the private companies even if no patients took up the services.

    Then again, Labour also got rid of Community Health Councils, so that there were no nice volunteers running round the wards stopping things like Mid Staffs from happening.

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  39. 130
    They are all backward socialists in Edinburgh. says:

    History repeatiing itself. They are bit backwards these socialist thickos.

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  40. 131

    National Horror Service.

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  41. 133
    David B says:

    Obviously a price worth paying

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  42. 134
    Had enough says:

    Every time Burnham speaks sales of guy-liner shoot up.

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  43. 135
    Rennard le Fox says:

    I know a certain Mr Burnham who uses private healthcare for his entire family. He was in a surgery last year saying he couldn’t take the risk of having his children treated on the NHS. Labour believe your children aren’t entitled to the same standards of healthcare and education as theirs.

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  44. 139
    PC Mcbasher says:

    Dinae trist a maan hu weers Mascara!

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  45. 140
    Geordieboy says:

    Shite stuck in the neck of a bottle & Andy Burnham. What is the difference?

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