March 1st, 2013

Eastleigh’s Losing Maria Led Away in Silence


  1. 1
    constituency trainbound says:

    a silent star minger exits stage right

    • 9
      Lady Britain says:

      wheres Vaz ?

      • 17
        social services says:

        Consoling the innocent MaxC

      • 324
        Anonymous says:

        Where is the Labour candidate ? i bet he was turning cartwheels !

      • 338
        Keith Waz is a Vanker says:

        I’m here,whats happened?
        Is there a drink in it for me?
        Does someone need a passport?

      • 352
        Archie says:

        And why isn’t he doing something like this?
        “So let’s be clear, not only did the one-eyed scottish bigot sell our gold for SFA and flood the nation with TB-riddled, self-detonating rag’eads, he also covered up the fact that the NHS, the jewel in the crown of UK socialism was happily murdering the population in order to meet the targets of his coalition of dumb-fucks.
        And where is he now? Why is he not being summoned by select committees to explain himself? Even Murdock was made/deigned to appear before Leveson.
        Surely DC (dozy c**t) should be having him subjected to inquisition, if for no other reason than to direct criticism away from the total ineptitude of DC and his mates? The worst PM in British History needs dragging back into the limelight and made to explain himself”.

    • 46
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      I wonder how you would have coped in that situation.

    • 78
      Fishy says:

      Was that Gobby, I could hear shouting at her?

      Who is he exactly? Who does he work for?

    • 260
      Osama the Nazarene says:

      Just as well she never managed to become an MP. Two failures and its time to propose a different candidate for this seaqt. Her failures to appear and speak are disgraceful.

    • 310
      of the common people says:

      However you look at that it is so fecking sad at so many levels.

    • 311
      NOW VOTING UKIP says:

      Same Sex Marriage did it – it makes you speechless unless you are the Shy Farage.

      • 316
        Anonymous says:

        Yes, we can always rely on Nigel to do his pub bore act on any subject you care to mention ! the people who think he is a credible politician are real saddos !

        • 336
          Anonymous is a Fuckwit says:

          Unlike you, Anonymous Fuckwit, at least Farage doesn’t spend his entire waking life sitting at a computer. You dare call HIM a bore?

        • 353
          Archie says:

          The people who think that you’re a credible human being are the REAL saddos, fuckface!

    • 312
      Popeye says:

      A somewhat rictus smile?

  2. 2
    The Silent Bob party says:
    • 13
      The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

      Silent. Our. Hero.

      You re back !!

      And replete with your usual uncontrollable dose of verbal diarrhoea. I see

      Are you tring to outdo. Hutchings. In the loquacity stakes ???

    • 136
      fruitcake says:

      Bob baby, haven’t heard from you for ooh since Huhne was in poopstreet, how’re you doing?

  3. 3
    Man In White Coat says:


  4. 4
    Dave says:

    It was all her fault.

  5. 5
    Maria Puppet says:

    I cannot say anything because David did not stick his hand up my arse to assume direct control.

  6. 6
    Tooth fairy says:

    She spoke for the silent majority.


  7. 7
    Maria Puppet says:

    Maybe I should have sucked Dave’s knob in exchange for a safer seat after all.

  8. 8
    Louise Menschowitz says:

    Why didn’t they parachute me in?

  9. 11
    Casual Observer says:

    Maria’s defeat cannot be laid at her door. She did seem to be very heavily managed, so a team effort.

    Would be awesome if Guy News can get an exclusive interview with her, as to hear what actually went on in Eastleigh from her point of view rather than the BBC / Labour spin machine would be of interest.

    • 19
      Person from Porlock says:

      Is a certain Dr Nuts, formerly of this parish, related to you squire? ;-)

      • 29
        Casual Observer says:

        I do not think so.

        See OTB’s comment #20 below. That is the sentiment to which I allude, and in any case am hoping that someone gives this lady a right to reply. Am curious to hear her own words as they were conspicuously absent from the recent campaign.

        Possibly to your Dr Nuts point, she will probably never be able to handle bathroom cleaning products again without experiencing some degree of psychological pain.

        • 318
          Anonymous says:

          To be fair, when she did speak she put her foot in it, sending her son (aged 8) to a private school as he wants to be a surgeon, was one of her own comments. You can see why they wanted her own thoughts dampened down !

          • Casual Observer says:

            Didn’t see any problem with that sentiment myself.

            What parent would not want the best for their children ?

            Everyone knows that state school education is not good to that end, and if they had the means most responsible parents would send their children private.

            That the Conservatives would moderate that message tells you that they are no longer upholding conservative values.

    • 43
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      She was managed and prompted up until the point where she lost and then the merciless fuckers left her high and dry.

      I’m ashamed to be a Conservative.

      • 51
        Sally Berqow says:

        I was high and pissed.

      • 56
        Casual Observer says:

        Agreed: And it was obvious.

        Politics is a rough game but a party should stand by its own.

        I do not identify what happened to her as normal UK politics, but I do with European. She has had a hard practical lesson in what it means to be a useful idiot.

        A test will be if the party and back benches pick up on this and how they respond. It should add further negative pressure to Dave and the others. One wonders if Lord Ashcroft’s withdrawal of funding was at all influenced by this as he would have seen exactly what was going on.

        A takeaway lesson for Conservatives is not to do anything for the party which puts you out of your way. That is a very dangerous message to send out. It is very corrosive for both the Conservative party and society more generally.

        • 138
          Old Tory Bigot says:

          I fear it’s just modern politics.

          Shameful at every level.

        • 228
          vote UKIP says:

          The Tories are happy to shaft savers, pensioners and young adults, and the general public with immigration and high taxes.

          What on earth would make anyone trust a tory?

          • Anonymous says:

            There is no change since the Labour party were in, stop peddling this stupid myth that there is a utopia somewhere were everybody is rich and politicians are saints ! the rest of the population arent, so why should they be !

          • vote UKIP says:

            Your myths oaf, not mine.

        • 267
          Some bloke says:

          I actually feel slightly sorry for her. Perhaps, if she can find it in her heart to talk to UKIP (she doesn’t seem a bad egg, and I did wonder why she was yanked out of the Radio Five Live hustings – that was shameful, whether it was her decision or not), I’m sure she’ll be welcome in the party.

    • 317
      Anonymous says:

      Can we also have the train crash who was the Labour candidate ? the Labour party came FOURTH ! that is the real news and its hilarious, how will Milliband spint this one and will he ask for a public enquiry ?

  10. 11
    The PrangWizard of England says:

    Tory thug drags casualty away. Horrifying, that rictus smile.

  11. 14
    Fook Yew Dave says:

    Hutchings was portrayed as being to the right of Sarah Palin, but ends up losing to a party which even more right wing.

    Cameron is a genius in his own mind.

  12. 15
    Man from the Midlands says:

    And the big question for the Tories is;

    How do you solve a problem like Maria?

    • 323
      Anonymous says:

      The big problem for Labour is how do we crawl up from FOURTH place, its funny how Labour dont seem to have been on the BBC since thursday isnt it ?

  13. 16
    Grinandbearit says:

    This needs to be played in an endless loop for the morons who still think the Tories are a party with a future.

  14. 18
    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    I am. Sure she will. Put this. Behind. And go on to a very. Successful career as a. Fluffier. Girl in th. Bay. Area. Of. California

    A duty. To. Which her vocal. Reticence. Would appear to be ideally. Suited

  15. 20
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Maria was never cut out to be a politician.

    Any politician would have automatically parroted party lines and dissembled fluently.

    She was just an ordinary woman caught like a startled rabbit the in headlights of the media mob.

    Although I have sympathy for her personally, I wonder what Conservative Central Office were smoking when they chose her to stand in such a high profile byelection.

    She was not a politician and not even a competent public speaker.

    Very unfair to the woman.

    • 25
      Tuscan Tony says:

      Spot on.

    • 28
      Aunt Hilda says:

      very true … but finding a tory lady candidate prepared to put her head above the parapet these days is not easy given the public crucifies personalities and the media destroys the rest.

    • 33
      Grab the popcorn says:

      Not true OTB….she has form….and a former labour party member to boot. So she’s not just an ordinary women…..we all well know that everything Dave does is staged managed and I’m afraid it’s going wrong. He would stand 2 mins with ol’ Nige.

      • 44
        Gob Shites says:

        ” He would stand 2 mins with ol’ Nige.”

        They will ban Farage from any Leadership debates because he would wipe the floor with them.

        Even Dick Sniffin would give them a run for their money.

        • 192
          Hutchings hamster says:

          Most people couldn’t stand 2 seconds with Old Nige. The stench of hypocrisy, allied with the lardy smell of ex-BNPers is enough to make the average stomach turn.

    • 34
      Man from the Midlands says:

      I couldn’t agree more. She’s a classic example of why ‘ordinary’ people aren’t always the best people to select as candidates for winnable seats. Some people might despise career politicians, but I’d rather have a career politician as my local MP than someone who’s been thrown in at the deep end by party HQ and doesn’t have a clue what they’re doing.

      • 66
        Casual Observer says:

        You are showing signs of dangerous brainwashing that has taken place in the UK.

        Whilst not everyone is cut out for leadership, which is part of being a politician, discounting people simply on the basis that they are not qualified is anti-democratic in the extreme.

        A politician, if they are genuine, should be able to reflect the views of people in government and speak on their behalf. To do that effectively they require real life experience.

        Career politicians, as we have been led to believe are the preferred choice, are simply apparatchik stage managers. There may be an election to get them in to power, but lacking broader life experience what you are electing is representative for the people only by title.

        The notion of a political class, excepting in the UK the tradition of life peers in the Lords, is another disguise for extremely dangerous anti-democratic though.

        If you strip these down, political class and career politicians are really PR spin for entities required for communist systems of government. In such terms, Parliament can be considered a politburo of elected members, rather than a democratic house of elected representatives.

        This one of the flaws to democracy in UK / Europe at present in both government and the perception of the electorate.

    • 35
      Tuscan Tony says:

      I’d add that I’m wholly unsuited to be a brain surgeon, and I’d never attempt such a career as I know I have the attention span of a gnat. However there’s a special class of person which includes Gordon McSnot and presumably Maria Hutchings that don’t have the nous or courage or decency to self analyse and admit they’re not up to the job.

      So I reckon she is a fair bit to blame personally for what happened.

  16. 21
    Jimmy Saville's Ghost says:

    I know the people of Eastleigh are meant to be a bit ‘simple’ but if this is what Dave classes as ‘Totty’ to entice the voters the daft begger has no hope next election.

  17. 22
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Maybe it was never intended for her to win.

  18. 23
    Tuscan Tony says:

    So mental. Such bad handling of the whole farrago (Farage-io?)

    Like the cheshire cat with a flat battery.

    • 29
      Person from Porlock says:

      Like a downgraded Gordon gurn?

    • 195
      Hutchings hamster says:

      That last sentence brings to mind the expression on Gobby Gove’s face on this morning’s news programmes.

  19. 24
    Market Watch says:

    This should be much more sobering news for all:

    Mortgage approvals down indicates housing market slowing. Sterling has depreciated 5.6% so far this year. That rate of depreciation = 29.23% pa.

    i.e.: Sterling could get to 1.1245 if this continues to the end of the year.

    According to T’Graph, about 90% of repossessed homes are being sold at a loss.

    Triple dip is pretty much locked in now.

    • 32
      Gob Shites says:

      But nell and the Tories told us not to worry.

    • 36
      Person from Porlock says:

      Take it you are talking 1.1245 = GBP-USD?

      Not GBP-EUR?

      • 74
        Market Watch says:

        Yes, GBP-USD.

        May end up at parity with EUR if it is still in existence by the end of the year.

        • 110
          Person from Porlock says:

          If the pound fell to that level ceteris paribus then it would certainly fall below parity with the Euro.

          My opinion is that the underpinnings of the pound may actually be marginally worse than the godawful Euro.

          • Market Watch says:

            Euro is going down as well, and will continue to do so.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            Euro has incredible weaknesses, agreed.

            But so has the dollar. It does not stop it from hitting above its deserved weight on at least two aspects.

            1.) Shale gas.

            2.) The level of retained wealth which almost no international comparisons manage to properly identify. This aspect applies to Europe as well.

            To enlarge on the last point, there is the real estate, the history (call it tourism plus), the culture (impossible to set a value upon but undeniably there), the (relative) state of civilisation.

            All of these immeasurables but people ignore them at their peril.

            BTW I am not trying to present a justification for chronic mismanagement.

          • Market Watch says:

            The dollar has weaknesses but some strengths with which the Euro cannot compete:

            i) $ is backed by an at present politically unified nation of 400m,

            ii) $ is backed by powerful military. # of nukes, ability to deliver is what counts.

            iii) $ is restoring its soft power backing as well. US culture is simply more acceptable to majority of the planet over European. The UK even recognizes this.

            iv) $ is still reserve currency at present. All major assets are priced in it, to do international trade you need to go through it.

            v) Majority of $ is now held by Ch!na. The Renm!nbi has the potential to replace $ as reserve, and that only further delegitimizes the Euro.

            May change soon, but the Euro certainly will not be a global reserve.

            The energy reserves which are in Euroland could back it, but backing a currency with a commodity such as Oil / Gas is lunacy. To start with, both those commodities are irreplaceable and will be consumed. Such a backing is automatically inflationary.

            Pricing in $ is the subtle difference which they aim to preserve.

            Real estate has zero intrinsic value as it is not easily transportable, fungible, is continuously depreciating and can be destroyed relatively easily with modern weapons. Same is true of other assets of value such as art, sculpture etc. A currency cannot be backed on such assets.

            Absent credible sovereign backing, and to my point printing complete fiction on the currency is an aspect of this, the Euro has zero real value.

            It is garbage, not even worth the ink and whatever it is printed on.

            This is not an issue of mismanagement, but rather the fundamental flaw to the monetary union and that ‘currency’.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            In the current environment, in order to maintain growth it is necessary, after keeping sufficient liquidity to survive, to look at opportunities where fungibility is not regarded as important as it would in an ideal situation.

            China is already trading oil in non-dollar currencies and the situation you describe, whilst historically true is changing in may ways, some almost imperceptibly so.

            Whilst no fan of the Euro, I think it has more robustness than fashion currently dictates. This is due in no small part to relative German economic strength.

          • Market Watch says:

            German economic strength is waning, and it is not enough to carry the entire Eurozone. The Germans are draining wealth out of periphery nations in order to support themselves, and by extension the Euro.

            This arrangement is beginning to lose credibility sharply, and will likely change radically following the Federal elections later this year. The political will of the people to persist this arrangement was expressed recently in Lower Saxony.

            Growth is not possible at present: Only contraction will occur.

            This is guaranteed as in order to shore up legitimacy of the monetary union, debt is being paid down.

            The cost of this (see blood on the streets and state of Greece in the extreme) further reduces the legitimacy of the currency as we witness the destruction of any chance of political union to provide even a veneer of Fiat backing.

            The idea has failed, it is time to kill it and start over.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            I well understand the argument you make and it does have widespread acceptance. In fact, it has done for some time. The end of the Euro was going to happen in the next three months some five years ago and this has been repeated ad nauseum.

            Not saying it will not occur. Just that it is too glibly forecast as imminent but that has not turned out so far to be the case.

            Your inputs are not disputed. It is the way they translate into outputs where there is at minimum a timing problem and, in the better case scenario, other support elements which may sustain it for longer than anticipated.

          • Market Watch says:

            Note: I did not say that the Euro would go away or when, only that it is a fake currency with no legitimacy, whose value vs. $ is declining.

            Also stated reasons for that view.

            Forecasting precise dates of demise is foolhardy, but looking at what has unfolded since the credit crunch, the Eurozone economic region as a whole has contracted quite a lot, high denomination Euro notes have been withdrawn from many areas and high value cash transactions have been made illegal.

            Also, people have realized that the only thing propping up the Euro is Germany, who are losing a lot of wealth doing this, and will lose a lot more wealth when the Euro finally ends.

            When Germany is in a position such that the loss will be acceptable it will pull the plug. The supranational ECB entity will continue along with the Euro for a spell to service its outstanding obligations until its creditors are prepared to walk.

            Switching out of the Euro back to a national currency is doable within 3 days for a sovereign. !taly, Spa!n and Portugal are worth watching around their public holidays: Greece if there is a coup.

            NB: A country which does this will make no public announcement prior to doing the switch.

        • 181
          The wizz says:

          Then what else are propsing, a complete surrender to EUSSR? As far as I am concerned the EU only do mismanagement.

          • Market Watch says:

            Only projecting forward a credible path following Osborne’s economic policy, and what is going on in the Eurozone.

            A guess: If current status quo maintained we will end up with monetary union by stealth, and with further serious destruction of UK sovereign wealth.

            My view is it should be stopped.

      • 79
        Point of Information says:

        Euro currency is so illegitimate that it has made up landmarks printed on it.

        Bridge to nowhere is the classic example:

        If they can’t even put a real symbol on the paper, how can there be any faith that the paper has any value ? It is literally monopoly money.

        • 117
          Person from Porlock says:

          It is all fiat. Pictures paint a thousand cheap words.

          • Point of Information says:

            Euro is meant to be fiat, but without any political union to back it ?

            It is just fake money.

            Zero value, zero credibility: A con engineered by a vaporous supranational entity without sovereignty.

            There is nothing backing the Euro.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            So how does that become any worse than Gordon Brown’s finger on the red button or, for that matter, Osborne’s? It is all fake. Pure, unadulterated, fucked-up fake.

          • Point of Information says:

            Brown may have been pulling a Nixon ‘crazy man’. Not sure about Osborne. Those actors are irrelevant in the broader picture in any case.

            The red button: UK is nuclear armed and can deploy. It can also default on its debts if it chooses to, or manipulate the cost of existing debt down.

            UK is a sovereign entity and has full control over printing currency as well as managing its debt.

            A promissory note issued by the UK is backed by the people, the government, the institutions of the UK, as well as the Crown. The note even has a picture of the head of state on it, and some depictions which tie the note to the sovereign state.

            There is a solemn promise to pay the bearer, and the UK has a very long proven history of doing just that.

            This is not fake, and is important to recognize as real.

            The Euro has no such legitimacy. The economic carnage taking place across the Eurozone, and desire to dump the currency is testament to that. The Euro is fake.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            Sorry. Spoke carelessly. My red button was the QE one. Recognise what you say and have even argued similarly elsewhere on this page.

            Without an equivalent of Gold Standard, what the hell does the promise really specify?

            Yes, the UK government has paid everything to date in fiat terms but, to take War Debt as an example, the repayment was nominal, not actual.

            Would suggest that your picture, whilst technically correct, is somewhat idealist in construction.

          • Point of Information says:

            QE is sovereign debt management in action.

            Sovereigns have the right to do this, it is perfectly fine. Care has to be taken to not upset your creditors.

            Despite the moronic fixation of the left on this issue, there is nothing wrong with it and QE is very sensible path to follow. Certainly better than default which is why trading partners accept it.

            The promise means that the Bo.E will redeem the notional value of the note upon demand. That is a little ephemeral now when considering small denominations, but in terms of large international payments it really means that goods / services will be exchanged to the value indicated and agreed upon with the creditor. That may involve purchase of an agreed amount from the foreign country.

            For Sterling this is based on over 300 years of trusted trading history, which is one reason why Sterling is generally trusted worldwide. The picture presented above is reality, not an idealism.

            Those who are trying to paint the Euro as a legitimate currency are working to distort these notions. That distortion is taking us all back to a gold standard as people start to realize that fiat backed currencies are intrinsically worthless, and those which have legitimacy are tarnished by the Euro.

            (NB: War debt is always slightly different, and as the UK won should have been written off. That it wasn’t was a major change in international protocol.)

          • Person from Porlock says:

            Hold on! The War Debt, laughingly called Issue was largely a direct impost upon British subjects and was paid back over the decades with hugely diminished currency. To have written it off would have been sheer confiscation. It wasn’t repaid until just six years ago when most of the creditors were busy pushing up daisies.

          • Point of Information says:

            That debt was mainly for the post war reconstruction. That is different.

            The War debt itself is usually that accrued between allies during conflict.

            Lend-Lease was introduced in 1941, end terminated in 1945. The 1945 loan issued in part had to cover Lend-Lease at 10c on the $.

            That was the change in protocol. Prior to this loans such as Lend-Lease would be written off as they are considered contributions to the war effort. The money lent is normally used to purchase materiel from the creditor, and once conflicts cease the debt is considered settled.

            WWI saw the US attempt this trick. The UK debt from that is still outstanding, just held in moratorium. It is generally understood that it will never be repaid, or formally written off.


            WWI and WWII War debt saw a major change in the understood norms for funding conflicts between allies.

    • 47
      P l e b says:

      Call for Nigel!

    • 80
      Fishy says:

      Still got some way to go to emulate McDoom’s brush with parity

  20. 26
    Man from the Midlands says:

    I hate this sort of stage managed politics the main parties sometimes try to get away with. We’re Tory high command seriously that worried that shed say something stupid?

  21. 27
    Austin Barry says:

    She appears to be in a state of catatonic shock. I hope she is looked after by caring professionals in a safe and secure environment.

  22. 31
    P l e b says:

    It appears that Piss Organ has been in the country recording another series of his chat shows.
    Have any members of the constabulary had him in for questioning about phone hacking?
    If not, why not?

  23. 38
    Mick Hydes says:

    I went into Morrisons in Barnsley where I usually do my shopping and found that they were selling Israeli peppers, so I decided to switch to Asda.

    However on visiting an Asda store in Royston, I found that it too was selling selling Israeli produce.

    So I switched again, this time to the Royston Co-op, only to discover that foodstuffs from Israel were available there as well.

    As a result, I won’t be visiting any of the above supermarkets again.

    Is there no store that doesn’t sell the apartheid rogue state of Israel’s produce?

    • 39
      Gob Shites says:

      ”Is there no store that doesn’t sell the apartheid rogue state of Israel’s produce?”

      Abduls corner shop down the road m8

    • 61
      Lard RockHard says:

      Thanks for that.. I’ll make sure to get some Israeli peppers!

    • 289
      A View from the Solent says:

      Do you buy your knickers from M&S???

    • 321
      Anonymous says:

      Dont be such a total pratt, do you think your buying bloody peppers is going to change anything. Grow up FFS.And how much did your world tour looking for non isreali peppers add to global warming?

      • 331
        Casual Observer says:

        Consumer power does work. This tactic was used to damage the South Afr!can regime back in the 80s.

        For each person who does this there will be a % of the population doing exactly the same, so the effort is not singular and will have impact.

        If you still want the products, pick them up later at a food bank for free is the smart move, or when they have been heavily discounted in the store. Only the stores profit margin can be damaged this way, and they in turn screw over the supplier.

        General advice right now: Stop buying or minimize purchases of any EU sourced supermarket meat. That is not for ideological reasons, just purely because it cannot be trusted.

  24. 41
    Lee East says:

    1. The Sir Cyril Smith Party

    2. The Pentagon-Zionist Party

    3. The Elm Guest House Party

    4. The Tony Blair Party

  25. 52
    Anonymous says:

    Just don’t select her next time.

  26. 53
    Anonymous says:

    Jobseeker’s Allowance will go up by just 70p in April, a rise of less than 1 per cent.

    In addition, those out of work must pay council tax for the first time at levels of anything from £1.40 a week upwards, leaving people worse off in cash terms, especially considering the rate of inflation.

    I thought governments were supposed to protect the vulnerable, but what does one expect from the Tories?

  27. 54
    Chris Huhnes' prison wank sock says:

    After I left I thought, “surely no-one can be that fucking retarded to vote lib dem again?” What a fool I’ve been. I should’ve pleaded not guilty by claiming to be the son of Thor. The jury would’ve lapped it up!!!

    • 291
      A View from the Solent says:

      The God of war rode out one day
      upon hos favourite filly.
      “I’m Thor”, he cried.
      His horse replied, “You forgot your thaddle thilly”.

  28. 55
    Sally Bercow says:

    Innocent face.

  29. 57
    simples says:

    go vegan, Oh you’re in Barnsley

    • 293
      A View from the Solent says:

      .. so probably originates from Dhaka – in which case his pov is understandable

    • 294
      Matilda says:

      Do you think he knows where those lovely juicy Jaffa oranges come from?

  30. 59
    Anonymous says:

    The Conservative coalition regularly claims its cuts are unavoidable because the welfare state has been too generous.

    But it is ordinary people who have to pay for the very same casino capitalist failures that originally got us in this mess.

    Billions cut from welfare, reductions across government departments and the looming bedroom tax are just some examples of policies that actively target the most vulnerable.

    Women are expected to bear 75 per cent of the burden and the poorest will be hit six times harder than the richest on average. At least 1.3 million jobs will be culled in public and private sectors combined.

    There is no financial logic to this economic vandalism, which is why the people must seek to campaign for a radical alternative.

    We have the power to create a fairer and more sustainable alternative for all citizens through peaceful collective enterprise.

    Participatory co-operation can create the grass-roots movement needed to make eternally obsolete the oppressive shackles of a system which produces only for profit instead of need, and is responsible for perpetual warfare and environmental destruction in its ruthless pursuit of market domination

    • 68
      Oh!Fck! says:

      It helps if you have a Liebour money tree or mass immigration not taking money from the country but bringing it in, shame Liebour could only get the mass immigration taking the money from the country, if Liebour had let the banks die and hadn’t sold our gold to help a bank then we would be in a better shape, I’m fed up of listening to Liebour whitewash, it wasn’t us it was fatcher, these tossers that are in now are still following Liebour protocol and look how much damage it’s done in 3 years, we have to start afresh and not with the LibLabCon charade.

    • 70
      Point of Information says:

      ‘Bedroom Tax’ is a welfare transfer, not a tax.

      Casino capitalism was enhanced by Labour government 1997 through 2010, especially by weakening regulation and running inflationary low interest rate monetary policy. Labour also socialized losses which signaled that speculation was risk neutral to market City institutions. This was not capitalism.

      Job losses are long overdue as the economy is forced to rebalance from the gross distortions caused by Labour. The coalition government have allowed delayed and slowed this process, but it shall continue in any case. What goes up must go down.

      Grass roots movements may help, but likely will just spawn new organized crime operations. Restoration of traditional family and cultural values will help the transition back to economic reality. That process is necessarily inward looking, as it will be impossible and hazardous to place trust in those without.

      • 93
        stun says:

        A quick Google revealed the above as a letter to the Morning Star. Amazed it still exists, TBH. Is Fabian Solutions back?

        • 160
          Point of Information says:

          Hmm… morningstar server seems to be up, but their site is down.

          Some sort of commie outfit ?

          Did some Googling, ‘Fabian Solutions’ appears to be a mong.

          However, upon Googling did stumble across an old Speccie article which was reporting on Cameron’s attempt to abolish the 1922 committee back in 2010, and the 55% rule.

          Perhaps it is time that the committee got back into action as the Tory left wing needs to be clipped methinks.

    • 89
      Fishy says:

      Casino Capitalism
      Bedroom Tax
      Economic Vandalism
      Collective Enterprise
      Oppressive Shackles
      Environmental Destruction
      Market Domination

      Full House! You are Shouty Jones and I claim the Guardian Bingo prize.

  31. 60
    Lee East says:

    1. The Cyril Smith Party

    2. The Pentagon-Zion1st Party

    3. The Elm Guest House Party

    4. The Tony Blair Party

  32. 63
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    It seems like the politicians are pulling the same stunt that the religious types/masons pulled in the past, keeping knowledge secret ( season cycles, how to make metals) in order to keep the population in check and properly taxed to pay for their life style.
    Seems that the populace is getting a clue and I can’t see the politicians getting away with the bullshit for much longer.

    • 130
      Ready to hoist the black flag says:

      The internet fucked them good and proper

      • 189
        The wizz says:

        Lots more to follow just look at ‘Five Star’ in Italy, shows the scale of democracy via the internet is not a joke.

  33. 65
    PWWPBS says:

    I hate the phrase ‘traditional conservative’. Why can’t we call them ‘backward looking, right wing lunatic bigots?’ Those on the left of the Labour tend to get labelled as ‘radical’ or some other such crap when people forget that it began as a Socialist party. Why not ‘traditional Labour member’? Why one rule for the right and another for the left?

    I also don’t get Tory thinking. They failed to achieve an outright majority in 2010. The majority of voters – and indeed the majority of seats – went to parties ostensibly of the left (I use this term very loosely). Yet, the Tory backbenchers seem to think a lurch to the right would bring back voters? Deluded. As much as I dislike Cameron, he’s the lipstick on the vile pig of the Tory party. He’s the only real force that makes them electable

    • 69
      A real Labour troll says:

      Bring it on! The more rabid they make them, the less electable they are. The great thing about ‘traditional’ Tories (homophobic, racist, fearful of change) is that they are dying out. Most people are far more reasonable and don’t get upset by gay people, or care about the church, or abortion, or people coming from outside this sceptred isle. Angry White Rich people is diminishing demographic – as the GOP are also failing to realise: they may still have all the money, but they still only get one vote each.

    • 75
      mmmm oh dear! says:

      Think you two should get a room, you have lots in common, being thick Liebour idiots from planet LaLa land.

    • 298
      Ooh! Let me guess... says:

      PWWPBS ??

      Please Wipe Wally’s Penis Before Sucking?

  34. 67
    Anonymous says:

    I wonder when Boris will get the nod ? Which is the best country to emigrate to ?

    • 72
      Oh!Fck! says:

      Scotland, next year when they split from us nasty English who are holding them down with large debts and stealing their oil, you will be able to skip along with the Scots, whem they will all wearing rose coloured specs after the referendum and will have their freedom to find another South Sea bubble.

      • 111
        Anonymous says:

        wode you really ?

      • 132
        A Little Off The Top Please says:


        You will be dead meat once the EU funds dry up and the porridge wogs can no longer afford mars bars and iron bru.

    • 299
      Ooh! Let me guess... says:

      Rwanda is nice at this time of year.

  35. 71
    belbylafarge says:

    Good. An anti abortion snob fails to get elected. A richly deserved humiliation of an awful woman.

  36. 73
    Kebabs for reality says:

    Unfortunately the Tories aren’t likely to be troubled by UKIP for long. UKIP is a one-man, one-issue group. When Farage was interviewed a few weeks ago and questioned about what other policies he had, besides stopping immigration and shouting at Brussels, the first thing that came into his head was build more prisons. I don’t think they qualify as a ‘party’ yet, and perhaps never will.

    • 86
      mmmm oh dear! says:

      When people get scared they always try to talk down the thing that’s scaring them, keep going and tell us when your crapping yourself.

      • 101
        Kebabs for reality says:

        Do you really believe that a party with NO MPs at the moment can go on to get an overall majority?

        If you do you are truly loopy

    • 115
      Cobblers says:

      I’ve seen this exact same post elsewhere – are you hopping from blog to blog furiously cutting and pasting?

      • 135
        Reality To Tories, Calling, Reality To Tories, Hello Anyone There? says:

        CCHQ on overdrive.

    • 249
      Casual Observer says:

      UKIP are not a one-man one-issue group: That myth was dispelled comprehensively in the Eastleigh campaign.

    • 327
      talltexan says:

      Kebab, Hitler was a one man,one issue group without a lot of policies and look how long it took for the end of him. The main three parties in the UK ignore UKIP at their peril.

    • 348
      Eeyore says:

      I believe you’re a victim of wishful thinking. I went to a UKIP meeting recently expecting to find what you describe. Instead I found a full programme for government (most of which, as a disillusioned Tory, I agreed with) and was most impressed by the quality of their spokesmen (they were men) on energy and food/farming/fisheries.

      Take a look at their website and prepare to be amazed.

  37. 77
    Silver Surfer says:

    It is not just Cameron but also Osborne and Gove. None of these have any charisma, show little or no signs that they are listening to those who voted them in.
    With one hand immigration should be brought down to thousands, on the other hand India has been promised unlimited entry into the UK.
    The education programme is a shambles with demoralised teaching staff, be it in state schools or academies, where there is a real concern that a generation of children will not have a clear syllabus to work from because each year in the last three years it has been changed and goal posts moved.
    Osborne comes across as so arrogant, so completely devoid of any respect for those who knew about business needs and financial management when he was still in short trousers at his elite prepschool and growing up in a society completely and purposely cut off from the real world.
    It is these three that most complaints are aimed at. Removing Cameron will not do any good, all three will have to go and IDS should be moved to where he can do less harm. The rest of them are pretty mindless anyway and will follow whoever is leading them

    • 82
      H@rry1000 says:

      It’s gay marriage, stupid. People (not just ex Conservatives, but all those who had not previously voted UKIP) voted for UKIP because it is the only party that opposes gay marriage. In particular, former Conservative voters want to see David Cameron taught a lesson for the marriage Bill, even if it means a Tory government re-elected to create further havoc with the economy

      • 97
        pedant says:

        think you mean labour government

      • 108
        stun says:

        I think that is oversimplified. Though gay marriage is an issue, I believe it’s just an indicator for the Conservative Party not listening to a grassroots (and a populace) that no longer believes that the existing politics actually reflects their thoughts in many areas. The failure to address the deficit from Day One, leading into the ridiculous situation the Tories now find themselves in – accused of massive cuts whilst having achieved nothing in terms of deficit (never mind debt) reductions – is the thing which turned me off. I think that Tory voters in 2010 expected and saw the need for a harsh ride for the next few years – massive public sector downsize, sensible energy policies, bonfire of the quangoes, reduce government participation to less than the criminal 50% of GDP it now represents etc. Not even touching on the EU, and its inevitable effect on immigration.

        Frankly, they’ve been crap.

        • 241
          JH384739459834 says:

          Spot on. If the government is going to basically take over the entire economy, if it is going to force itself into every nook and cranny of our lives, if it is going to – literally – change the face of the country, it could at least listen to what we want and occasionally provide it.

          But it does not. So disaffection will grow, with an entire generation denied access to the game. Graduates qualified for fuck all with masses of debt are not going to be buying houses.

          If the left are expecting that generation to follow their little ‘rules’, they could be in for a big shock. The pendulum swings mercilessly, and it has been pushed a fuck of a long way in one direction for too long.

  38. 85
    Anonymous says:

    has anybody opened the box to see if the cat is still alive ?

    • 179
      Anonymous says:

      I wish it was still in the box. It brought a balance to the universe.

      I think some biblioclasm supporter could not control their bigotry.

    • 300
      Ooh! Let me guess... says:

      He’s around – if only you know where to look…

  39. 88
    A real Labour troll says:

    Dave is responsible as he is leader of the Tories but look at all the good he has done; like protecting Rupert Murdoch from arrest over his company’s criminality, selling off the NHS, selling weapons to brutal dictatorships in the ME, running the economy into the ground, firmly establishing the poor and disabled as the country’s preferred hate group, about to let millions of Romanians and Bulgarians flood the country… oh I forgot, he lied about knowing Andy Coulson’s past, his security vetting, Wonga for private dinner invites… Dave is the leader that just keeps on giving – more business opportunities to his rich mates that is

  40. 90
    Anonymous says:

    ‘Ex-gay’ London bus advert ‘like a slap in the face’ Should also knee them in the bollocks. Fucking puffters.

  41. 91
    A former conservative says:

    The big question is why Cameron is prepared to destroy his own party by alienating its voters. Is he taking orders from somebody else or is it jut self interest?

    • 94
      D.I. says:


    • 114
      Analyst says:

      He is taking orders from two quarters.

      One is US: particularly on B.A.E. deal and staying in the Euro.

      The other is likely Russ!a who the UK may need to keep sweet if the US collapses.

      Ch!na is calling some of the economic shots, but doesn’t really care so long as the UK can pay for what it tries to import from them.

      Similar pressures and pure fanaticism is likely what is driving the EU cult at the moment. The people though seem to have had enough.

    • 116
      Dino says:

      Oh, that much is obvious. “His” party? He’s no Tory, he’s working for the EU, his mission is to to destroy the Tory brand, to gift the next election to the previously unelectable Milliband or Clegg, either will do, it matters not. The overarching agenda is all that really matters, that of destroying the country so that the EU goes unopposed. They don’t mind if its a shit hole, as long as its their shit hole.

  42. 95
    Jimmy says:

    Can’t help feeling sorry for the woman. She hates darkies and poofs and doesn’t think her son should have to mix with the rough boys at the comp and she’s still not right wing enough for you. To paraphrase a notorious US campaign ad: She’s not a witch; she’s you.

    • 98
      poor girl says:

      I knew sarah palin and shes a moose

    • 102
      Bridge over troubled Jimmy says:

      Oh! Jimmy you thought of us when you saw the US ad, how nice, you should stop thinking, all that hate will build up and blow the fuse in your one brain cell.

      • 113
        Jimmy says:

        Hate? Me?
        I love each and every one of you. I believe you can change.

        • 121
          Person from Porlock says:

          Change and decay in all around I see…

        • 247
          JH384739459834 says:

          “He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

    • 123
      Cobblers says:

      You’re a simpleton.

    • 236
      Dianne Abbott, Labour MP and hypocrite says:

      I sympathise with her, I didn’t want my child to go to the filthy local comp either.

  43. 96
    Torybaiter says:

    I do love a Tory infight – much nastier and vicious than Labour ever are. Who will be the stalking horse?

    Liam Fox? David Davies?

    Whoever might win a battle would have to appear to be very loyal at the moment.

    Has anyone set up a GoveforPM website yet?

    • 351
      kelly-killer kampbell says:

      Nothing is more vicious than a socialist bitch fight.

      We had a decade of Brown vs Blair and the various lefty bully boys bitch-slapping away.

  44. 104
    Casual Observer says:

    More petrol for Cameron’s pyre: One should be under no illusion that his recent !ndia trip did nothing other than issue more student visas and make him look silly in a blue turban. eg:

    He was misnamed Cameroon on several occasions, and the Kohinoor was more of an issue than apologies for Amr!tsar. The !ndian press is covering the Eastleigh byelection result quite closely, and pointing out the problems for Cameron. Odd that.

    • 301
      Ann Indian-Summer says:

      Clearly all the corner shop ‘open all hours’ brigade are worried about their future.

      • 332
        Casual Observer says:

        Not really. !ndia it should be remembered is a story of two sides for the UK. There is the minority who we got on with during the Raj, and the majority who were oppressed and persecuted. The UK does not have a lot of friends over there. !ndian politics is shifting to the right, and the smile projected at the ‘white devils’ is beginning to fade now as they see weakness and realize strength.

        Cameron’s visit, hailed as success, really only secured a favor for !ndia. Those who are going to win visa’s and likely remain in the UK are not going to be the cream of !ndia’s crop. Very deep barrel over there to scrape, if you catch the drift.

  45. 106
    just curious says:

    So, is somebody checking the postal votes for authenticity ?

    • 133
      Lou Scannon says:

      They damn well should be, that’s for sure.
      After all, they account for roughly 41% of the total votes cast for the LimpDumbs.

      • 302
        PC Plodder says:

        We’ll get right on in Sir, soon as we finish this pesky cryptic crossword.

  46. 107
    Toryb@iter says:

    I do love a Tory infight – much nastier and vicious than Labour ever are. Who will be the stalking horse?

    Liam Fox? David Davies?

    Whoever might win a battle would have to appear to be very loyal at the moment.

    Has anyone set up a GoveforPM website yet? Or had teeshirts printed?

  47. 112
    David Scameron says:

    State intervention in the bedroom = good
    State intervention in matters of love = good
    State intervention in the market = communist

    • 120
      Herman van Bumsex (EU President) says:

      >> State intervention in the market = communist

      Except when the EU wished to intervene in what private companies pay their employees beyond taxation. That is just fine.

  48. 118
    mikestallard says:

    This is a woman who has given up everything she owns for her party.
    OK Wrong party. But my heart goes out to her.

  49. 124
    Person from Porlock says:

    Does anyone run a laptop with Linux out there?

    • 129
      the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

      have done what’s the problem ?

      • 139
        Person from Porlock says:

        My 17″ Acer is showing signs of age and I want to replace. There is no way I want to go the tablet/Apple route as I like to develop and get to the system. Windows is going Apple. So open systems is the only way to keep independent. Swore I would do it 6 years ago but frankly have flunked it ever since. Now, I am prepared to face almost any learning gradient rather than be boxed out.

        Screen real estate is important to me as I run many things simultaneously.

        • 146
          the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

          join a local linux user group and ask nicely for advice

        • 150
          Hate to interject says:

          Unix might be useful for you

          • Person from Porlock says:

            Looking at Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, Kubuntu, Mint, Edubuntu, Red Hat… everything. Ubuntu seems out in front.

          • Tachybaptus says:

            I installed Ubuntu on a tired old laptop which had arrived with Vista. It’s very easy. The installer seamlessly takes over all the drivers, so everything keeps working.

            It’s very fast, none of that endless waiting after the computer has started for it to be actually usable. The interface is clean and easy to understand, a bit more like Mac than Windows. There’s plenty of free software for ordinary things: LibreOffice (similar to OpenOffice, an equivalent to MS Office) comes with it, as does Firefox (I immediately changed to Chromium, the wild version of Google Chrome). You can get Thunderbired for email, The Gimp for graphics, FileZilla for FTP, practically anything you want, all free.

            It does have some rough edges. Minor programs can be faulty, hard to install and harder to remove. It helps to have used an old computer with DOS, because you will have to type some commands sooner or later.

            But on balance I think you will like it a lot.

          • Tachybaptus says:

            Mоddеd, bесаusе І wrоtе ‘drіνеrs’. Grоw uр, Guіdо.

            І іnstаllеd Ubuntu оn а tіrеd оld lарtор whісh hаd аrrіνеd wіth Vіstа. Іt’s νеrу еаsу. Τhе іnstаllеr sеаmlеsslу tаkеs оνеr аll thе drіνеrs, sо еνеrуthіng kеерs wоrkіng.

            Іt’s νеrу fаst, nоnе оf thаt еndlеss wаіtіng аftеr thе соmрutеr hаs stаrtеd fоr іt tо bе асtuаllу usаblе. Τhе іntеrfасе іs сlеаn аnd еаsу tо undеrstаnd, а bіt mоrе lіkе Mас thаn Wіndоws. Τhеrе’s рlеntу оf frее sоftwаrе fоr оrdіnаrу thіngs: LіbrеОffісе (sіmіlаr tо ОреnОffісе, аn еquіνаlеnt tо MS Оffісе) соmеs wіth іt, аs dоеs Fіrеfоx (І іmmеdіаtеlу сhаngеd tо Сhrоmіum, thе wіld νеrsіоn оf Gооglе Сhrоmе). Yоu саn gеt Τhundеrbіrеd fоr еmаіl, Τhе Gіmр fоr grарhісs, FіlеZіllа fоr FΤР, рrасtісаllу аnуthіng уоu wаnt, аll frее.

            Іt dоеs hаνе sоmе rоugh еdgеs. Mіnоr рrоgrаms саn bе fаultу, hаrd tо іnstаll аnd hаrdеr tо rеmоνе. Іt hеlрs tо hаνе usеd аn оld соmрutеr wіth DОS, bесаusе уоu wіll hаνе tо tуре sоmе соmmаnds sооnеr оr lаtеr.
            But оn bаlаnсе І thіnk уоu wіll lіkе іt а lоt.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            Thanks Tachy! I was a DOS line warrior so no fears there. In fact in those days you had control and not MS.

            One of the things worrying me was: could you still get drivers for all the myriad functions like USB ports, dual screen, hibernate, blue keys etc.?

          • Person from Porlock says:

            Thanks Tachy! І was a DОS lіne warrіоr sо nо fears there. Іn fact іn thоse days yоu had cоntrоl and nоt MS.

            Оne оf the thіngs wоrryіng me was: cоuld yоu stіll get drіvers fоr all the myrіad functіоns lіke USB pоrts, dual screen, hіbernate, blue keys etc.?

          • Tachybaptus says:

            P from P: you shouldn’t need to get drіvers for most of these, as the Ubuntu installer steals them from Windows and they work straight away. You will probably have to find a drіver for your printer, no problem if it’s a popular model.

            There are lots of online forums full of sensible advice about how to get and install almost anything.

            There is just one rite of passage to Ubuntu — stopping it from asking for a ‘keyring’ password when you want to do some quite ordinary things like opening the browser. You should set up the ‘keyring’ with no password given, just leave the box blank, and you won’t be bothered again.

            Oh, and by the way, don’t try to install Ubuntu by putting the installer on a USB stick. Most computers now refuse to boot from a USB stick even if you change the boot order. Put it on a DVD instead.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            Thx again. Had already clocked the keyring problem. Consumer comes last with MS as usual.

        • 164
          Observer says:

          The are many distro’s, I use SUSE on my acer, Watch out for the wifi driver, not all hardware makers are installed. Intel is usually ok, Broadcom can be a problem.

        • 175
          Anonymous says:

          zx spectrum will solve your problems.

          • Tachybaptus says:

            10 PRINT “HELLO WORLD”
            20 GOTO 10

          • Person from Porlock says:


          • the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

            while not wanting to prolong this topic I might say the flavor of linux you pick is irrelevant just now, any one will do. although if you want to be a proper geek install slackware

    • 342
      Linux-user says:

      Linux Mint is the way to go!

  50. 128
    the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

    I think I know what the problem is.
    It is a generational thing. Guys that have raised since 1943 have not really experienced proper violence unless they chose to join the forces or a crime syndicate.
    All the hippy thing and the general niceness of the society has produced a bunch of softies especially amongst the privileged types. They do not see the hard reality. They do not understand the violent mentality. they do not look at things in the right time context and so they are like a little floating plastic duck on the ocean, they really need to get a grip.

    • 141
      the mystic mould with the appearance of the face of Jesus says:

      meanwhile 2 million hard fuckers are set to intermingle, this should be fun ?

    • 145
      I Concur says:

      It’s the same principle of living in a sterile environment can actually be worse for you as you never build up antibodies suitable for dealing with outside rigors and illness.

      20th Century-21st Century living has created a bubble environment divorced from reality and base human nature.

      • 233
        so you know next time says:

        it is a good analogy. But this does not have to be our fate.
        as I write this there is a guy on the radio saying he is a sports writer and he is distressed that a sports center is in difficulties that children should be good at running and the sports stadium is closing down. For Fuck’s Sake we need fucking astronauts not fucking hop-step and jumpers. If you want to get fit go for a run.
        Concerning the question of the state sponsorship of industry NASA was/is state sponsored and it looks like that decision is going to pay off big time. UKPLC where the fuck are you ? oh you give money to some other countries space program. fucking retards

        • 304
          A View from the Solent says:

          Shirley you must be mistaken? Landing a bronze medal beats landing on the moon any day….

  51. 144
    Fishy says:

    Just watched Chanel 4 News.

    What is it about Emily Thornbury’s slimy, condescending, patronising, smirking, smug, evasive, Vaz-like, creepy, hypocritical, elitist, smarmy, bat-faced manner that makes me not like her?

  52. 147
    Maria says:

    ” “

  53. 151
    Person from Porlock says:

    Pryce re-trial is taking even longer than the original one. Prosecution still making its case…

    • 155
      hold them to ac says:

      In full legal english and “basic english” version for dummies. What coerce means etc. Back to the Maria Hutchings story. Is it right to whip the tories so tightly? Isn’t a wide range of business and moneymaking views welcome in democracy. We’re not talking about a unionised labour party. And how can the 1922 committee get its ideas out straight to the media. Or are they censored and better to join UKIP?

      • 161
        BBC policy guru says:

        We plan continuous economic anxiety stories until Labour get in in 2015 and Harriet as promised, ups the licence fee. We will then be revealing continuous scandals about 2010-2015.

        We will then get threatened with a licence fee freeze and resume to our historic support for St Vince with his policies.

      • 166
        Person from Porlock says:

        Just as some beef is not beef but horse, democracy is not democracy but oligarchy.

        • 169
          hold them to ac says:

          Fine, but oligarchs have to listen to what gets votes (media messages and popular figures who get airtime). How far will the Farage-agenda get with actual policies and will it appease UKIP support or add fuel to their fire.

          • Person from Porlock says:

            We don’t know, do we?

            But the current system was being called elective dictatorship a decade ago. It ain’t got any better, in fact … [complete it yourself as I can't be arsed any more.]

  54. 156
    labourunionsbbc are one under the EU says:

    I haven’t seen much tele today but it seems to me that there hasn’t been the usual codswallop from either cods or cods-eyes. Could it be their joker didn’t do half as well as they hoped, or are they distancing themselves from the traitor?

    • 165
      hold them to ac says:

      The tories don’t have the backbone to risk losing party “activists” most of whom are aged 65 on average. And they like the distant possibility of being a minister if they suck up well to front bench “soundbites”. They need to get real and kickstart GB. Surplus next year, not 2020.

      • 180
        Person from Porlock says:

        Your average of 65 may be more like 60 but the point you make is contestable.

        Most of this age group do not like o/s debt and have mostly worked their lifetimes to eliminate it. They have been rewarded by having their savings, pensions and assets plundered in multiple ways by successive governments.

        After all that they are told they have to put up with yet more controls, windfarms, higher utility costs, costly fuel and power and then, just to rub the salt in the wound, they really need to recognise homosexual marriage as being equal to the real deal otherwise they are dismissed as being not worth noticing.

        The British are a funny lot. They will be tormented and abused for ages and do not seem to react. So the politcos try it on more. Still no reaction. Another turn of the screw. This can happen repeatedly. But one day, they turn round and say fuck off!

  55. 173
    SaltPetre says:

    That frozen grin on her face is more than a little creepy. She looks like an android that has broken down in mid-smile. Politicians really are weird sometimes.

    • 176
      Cutie says:

      Yes, they are. Did you manage to receive last night’s QT in your neck of the woods?

  56. 174
    The shitty hands in Edinburgh. says:

    A non runner from the start.

  57. 178
    Yellow Windmills descend on Eastleigh says:

    A great shame really as she is the sort of normal person who should be in politics.

    • 184
      Windy Miliband says:

      Nothing wrong with harnessing passing wind, in theory.

      • 196
        James Benighted D'Windpole says:

        Wind is EVIL, isn’t it Dave?

        • 204
          David, call me Prime Minister if you like says:

          I admire your spunk, if not not your spelling, young man. Did you pretend to know me, at some former point in time, scalliwamp?

          • The wizz says:

            As a PM you’r as much use as a broken leg. Resign and let someone who knows what they are doing ltake over, and not just the Cons.

  58. 185
    Touchy feely, pink tinted bum fluff says:

    Cameron calls on the party to “remain true to our principles.

    Cameron is more bonkers than Brown. It’s him and his metropolitan socialist liberal elite who are not true to Conservative principles.

    He’s running the conservative party how the BBC wants the Conservative party to be run. Touchy feely, pink tinted bum fluff.

    • 197
      Tessa Tickles says:


      I’m not too sure when the Conservatives’ ‘principles’ included introducing nearly 300 new taxes and pissing away all the money they raise on such vital things as windmills, “free” trade agreements and foreign aid, whilst simultaneously doubling the nation’s debt and handing control (and ownership) of the country to foreigners, but – hey – I guess The Conservative Party is Dave’s party now.

      I hope he enjoys it for the next 2.2 years, whereupon it – like he – will consigned to the dustbin of history, where it belongs.

    • 220
      Grab the popcorn says:

      Dave needs to be reminded of the meaning of the word “conserve”. Upbringing besides, he needs to understand that it doesn’t mean shoving your dick in a jar of Chivers Thick-Cut Orange marmalade and shoving up another chap’s bottom.

      • 335
        Zeitgeist in Strawberry Hill says:

        It does when you are in alliance with the orange/yellow party.

  59. 187
    fabians ARE EVIL says:

  60. 194
    Tosspot says:

    When this rabble realises that weak Government and a weak Pound will loose votes, UKIP will step into the void, handed to them on a plate, No Catholic or Muslim is going to vote for a party Legalising Gay Marriage.

    • 199
      Hutchings hamster says:

      You may not be right. As my Irish friends always tell me; ‘it is a surprising fact that Ireland, the most conservative state in the EU, has the most active gay community. It is unfortunate that it is called the Church.’

  61. 198
    cyril smith fanclub says:

    She’s grinning because Ronnie Corbett is beavering away under her frock.

  62. 203
    Saffron says:

    Cammoron is INMO a disaster,his PPE degree along with many others is crap.
    A PR suit is not what we need in this country presently,we currently have many economic problems facing us.
    How are cammoron and the other two asshole parties coming up with any kind of plan to address what we face,answer they are not.
    The EUSSR will go under the banksters will see to that and this tosser who we have as a so called Pm can’t see that.
    His agenda as regards the Cons is dire and I do hope by whatever means that the tories consign him and his mate Ossibourn to the history books as two guys who demolished the tory party.

    • 252
      Casual Observer says:

      His professor at BNC would agree with you. Check the Wiki page.

      Poor Dave is in a spin death cycle. We need the 1922 committee to wake up, and a couple of defections to UKIP to get that ball properly rolling.

  63. 206
    ToonBert... says:

    Cameron still doesn’t get it..

    Windmills and gay marriage ??? Wtf.

  64. 207
    No Future in Edinburgh says:

    It is their loss. A Lib Dumb? ffs

  65. 212
    Person from Porlock says:

    Half of adults now use social networks, thus obligingly allowing HMRC to spy on them.

    What utter fucking mongs.

    • 216
      Bob says:

      Hey, Steve! If they ask, you never saw me, right?

    • 253
      Casual Observer says:

      Or, perhaps HMRC are trying to find a way of making legitimate the time spent by their otherwise redundant staff who are surfing the net in order to avoid early dementia ?

  66. 214
    No Future in Edinburgh. says:

    I can understand someone voting for Menzies Campbell, he is a smart guy especially on foreign affairs. I don’t understand why anyone would vote for any Lib Dumb in general. Can you give me psychological profile of a lib dumb voter?


  67. 224
    Vincent says:

    Dave did not listen
    he’s not listening still
    perhaps he never will

    • 227
      The wizz says:

      When the deaf cannot hear and the blind cannot see the vocal people will not be heard. Figure it out.

  68. 229
    Anonymous says:

    Some knob on Newsnight the absolute epitome of Tory complacency. The fuckers deserve to be annihilated.

  69. 231
    Gay Gordon says:

    When I look in the mirror lately I am starting to see an image of David Cameron.

  70. 237
    Oh fuck says:

    we are defenceless

  71. 238
  72. 240
    Ah! Monica says:

    Earlier: Queen may have eaten horse meat
    Today: She has the trots.

  73. 243
    The Pope says:

    God loves Yvonne Elliman and, therefore, so do I.
    If you’re addicted to something, take heart.
    If you cannot let go, try turning off your many computers.
    Love will never be found in the written word, he tells me.
    Pure, unadulterated ecstasy is available, only, on U-Bend.

  74. 244
    Quell surprise says:

    Odd video. It is like a lunatic being escorted from public view. Go UKIP!

  75. 250
    MacGuffin says:

    I’d have shown up drunk to the count, gone berserk as the results were announced, and flashed my boobs at the cameras before trying to get off with the scrutineers.

  76. 254
    UKIP Peasant says:

    Isn’t there something called a Mess at Eton? Please enlighten ordinary serfs like me.

    • 257
      Anonymous says:

      Perhaps the top public school educated former city boy Farage can give you a few pointers. Are you a thick peasant?

    • 265
      Tachybaptus says:

      Yes, there is an Eton Mess, and it is revolting. It’s made with strawberries and meringues, things better taken separately.

      They also roast peasants.

  77. 255
    Anonymous says:

    She has the right to remain silent.

  78. 258
    Plonker Dave says:

    Sam — Am I a con-artist or a piss-artist — what do you think?

  79. 262
    Dave says:

    Another day, another dollar. None of the gutless M.P.s has taken any action against me on Friday. Looks like I’m in the clear to keep promoting gay marriage and ratcheting up more debt.

  80. 264
    Can you see the real me, can you...can you? says:

    If the Torys seriously wanted to contest this seat they would have put up a suitable candidate. This poor woman seems to have been thrown to the dogs in some distateful deal with Libdem. However they underestimated the strength of UKIP and got tonked like they deserved. No vote untill Cameron has gone. Wankers.

    • 266
      Synic says:

      Spot on. Anybody got a smell or evidence of the smoking gun?

      The Press could crucify Dave and Nickelarse side by side. What an enjoyavble spectacle that would be.

  81. 270
    In cased you missed it says:

  82. 275
    The BBC Causes Serious Mental Illness says:

    Please do not ask us how a vote from someone who has not voted for 4 or so general elections can be considered an anti-politics vote.

    • 359
      BBC policy guru says:

      UKIP has no policies we can air. They are contraband. Thus this was an anti-politics vote for UKIP.

  83. 277
    EU Funded Pro-EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP.

  84. 279
    Casual Observer says:

    One big problem now for UKIP is that there is a higher probability of an early general election now.

    The sharp calling of this by-election was the only reason they came second. UKIPs campaign was not fully engaged in time for the postal vote period.

    One hopes that they are prepared for a GE before the end of the year.

    • 282
      CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

      UKIP are bunch of senile twats and disgruntled old farts. Their manifesto consists of a few dog-whistle rants and no substantial or well defined policy or strategy.

      If a party supports EU withdrawal, they should have a very detailed strategy for dealing with it. Describing all the current points at which the EU touches the UK and then tell us exactly what will happen at these points in terms of replacement, scrapping things etc. and the associated costs and timelines for doing so etc and proper risk assessment. Exiting the EU would be a massive and high risk undertaking, yet UKIP morons want us to believe it is as simple as tearing up the treaty of Rome. If the UK voted to get out of the EU what the fvck would have to happen to achieve a full withdrawal?

      Would Farage please let us know?

      • 283
        Casual Observer says:

        The UK has managed its affairs independently longer than most of the other countries in Western Europe.

        Detailed plans for withdrawal are not the stuff of campaigns / manifestos either. Farage / UKIP having had a long time serving directly in Europe will have a good handle on the route out.

        The only complications you perceive are very much in your mind.

        At the end of the day, ceasing payment and burning any treaties is all that is required. Will Europe go to war to enforce commitments ? No.

        Things will not get to that stage though. Once the UK starts the process, other countries will follow. It will likely be the case that the UK will not be the first to exit.

        If you prefer to acquiesce to the EU in its current form, it would perhaps be in your interests to relocate across the channel and campaign for status quo.

        There is nothing to stop you doing that it should be noted, as the borders are open and there is equal opportunity for employment for all across the Eurozone. Isn’t there.

        What is not being advertised is that even the pro Federalists in Europe know that the current EU is not going to be transformed into the Federal super state model which some want.

        That is something which the UK for sure does not, and that the current effort is falling apart is confirmation that UK instincts are right on this matter.

        Ironically, the biggest flaw to EU as Federal Superstate was the treaty of Rome. The Federalists have acknowledged that this set the stumbling block, and it should be remembered that the original agreement was explicitly not for a Federal super state to be created.

        • 285
          CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

          So you don’t have an exit strategy then. “we’ll do what we did 50 years ago” ain’t a strategy.

          We’ve had 40 years of knitting together EU and UK law and regulation. A detailed exit proposal and strategy needs to be provided and made available to anyone who would be interested.

          • Casual Observer says:

            Google around and you will find out how it can be done in practice.

            This is what the civil service will be paid for when the time comes. The government should dedicate some resource to this if they have not already, as has been advised by a number of think tanks.

            Check Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

            Full withdrawal is not desirable. Negotiation of change of status back to pre-Maastricht would be desirable. This still does not fix the problem of Federal model though. If people decide that this is the path they wish to go down, then the treaty of Rome needs to be replaced.

          • ?/? says:

            No doubt, like Belgium, we’ll probably be able to muddle along ok among ourselves.

      • 349
        dikhed on a bike more like says:

        If you bothered to extract your head from your arse for a moment, you would be able to read UKIPs policies.

  85. 280
    Lou Scannon says:

    Michael Fabrican’t tweeted: “The Conservative voice is muffled and not crisp. It does not clearly project Conservative core policies or principles.”


    I will say this again very slowly for the benefit of the dimwits at CCHQ :

               C  A  M  E  R  O  N     I  S     N  O  T
               A     C  O  N  S  E  R  V  A  T  I  V  E
    • 281
      Casual Observer says:

      All the advice needed: Towards the end of the interview.

      UKIP did not cause the Conservatives to lose.

      Something else pushed the Conservatives into third place, and is Cameron seriously going to point at his candidate ?

  86. 284
  87. 286
    EU Watch says:

    Eurozone unemployment figures Jan 2013 released:

    EA17 Rate: 11.9% Jan 2013
    - Up from 11.8% Dec 2012 (revised from 11.7%), 10.8% Jan 2012

    EU27 Rate: 10.8% Jan 2013
    - Up from 10.7% Dec 2012 , 10.1% Jan 2012

    Comparison: US 7.9% Jan 2013

  88. 288
    albacore says:

    Oh, look – they’ll be slashing defence again
    There’ll be less equipment and fewer men
    But then, what do we want armed forces for?
    For invaders there’s a wide-open door
    Any sod with “immigrant” on his hat
    Can stroll right in, with his tribe and his cat

    • 295
      Casual Observer says:

      Osborne’s budget is going to in part determine if the Cameron clown’s leadership is going to be challenged. That budget needs convince that it will get results.

      Hammond is right to set his position out as the cuts should come from welfare. However there are ways of getting cuts without reducing force or capability. Recent policy has likely painted the government into a corner.

      This announcement shows that the usual courtesies are now breaking down. I would expect to see more dirty laundry being aired over the next few weeks. March 20th is when the next audit on Cameron will be performed, if he is still around by then.

  89. 297
    EU Watch says:

    Echoing the Carnation revolution:

  90. 308
    Moishe Galloway says:

    And indeed re Guido’s point I look for unity between working class , much of so-called “middle class” and right wing political bloggers.

  91. 309
    Put on Pensioner says:

    You never sang the song Maria….

    So especially for you and all those sad old Tories

  92. 325
    The Lord Humungus says:

    Hilarious….. The fat idiot being dragged out of the Hustings by Cameron’s goons before she can open her stupid gob again and do even more damage…. Very North Korea. No doubt Tory HQ will say that she is now ‘spending more time with her family’…… And she will never be seen again!

  93. 326
    Hannibal Lector says:

    Drag her away like a mental case…oh sorry…she is a mental case because she is a Tory…

  94. 328

    Lets face it she hoped to win after all the negative press against the LidDems last week. But not only did she loose she lost to UKIP who nearly won. I reckon if Frage had stood he would have on. (I mean even I being pro EU might well have voted for Farage instead of the beer, backy and crumpet party that I would have voted for down there).

    Quite simply, however you spin it, it isnt a good performance for the Tories. Still as I am sure they will say “this provides clear evidince that our policies are working blah blah blah”.

    On a personal level she might have been doing her very best to hold back the tears.

  95. 337
    keredybretsa says:

    No comment is also a comment. Innit?

  96. 343
    davidwanksatinycocktillitbleeds says:

    Why was this woman Maria ever electable? Who even thought she was? She looks like a serial luncher to me.

    • 344
      Grass Roots Tory the real HQ says:

      She was a patsy, designed to fall on the knife… idiot.

      • 358
        ladies that lunch says:

        Yes given her total lack of eloquence – she could easily have said despite the protest vote the anti-left wing parties seem to be in the majority as this result shows – she will not even make Loose Women. Let alone I’m a celebrity.

  97. 345
    davidwanksatinycocktillitbleeds says:

    A patsy, more like a fucking pasty. Grey mined beef on the hoof contained within a pastry envelope. Represents most eastleigh voters

    • 346
      Hugh Van Den Plas says:

      tax them i say, let them eat tiny cock cake

      • 347
        davidwanksatinycocktillitbleeds says:

        I am a cameron man. Hath not a cameron man eyes? Hath not a cameron man hands,
        organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same
        food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases,
        heal’d by the same means, warm’d and cool’d by the same winter
        and summer, as a TRUE BLUE GRASS ROOTS TORY is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If
        you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?
        And if you wrong us, do we not revenge? If we are like you in the
        rest, we will resemble you in that.

        • 357
          poetic diochotomy says:

          Get off that high horse. The question is who will wield the axe against him?

    • 362
      Anonymous says:

      To think of a name like that – what are you on?

  98. 356
    hold them to ac says:

    Unbelievably true: Tories beaten by ‘perfect storm’ of Huhne, Rennard and nutjobs –

  99. 361
    Anonymous says:

    David Cameron: We are not turning our back on Europe – quite the opposite.

    Just rejoice at that news… Rejoice!

  100. 364
    Anonymous says:

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Rod Liddle on the loony UN sexism special rapporteur:

“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”

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What’s he been doing FFS, mining bitcoins?

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