February 25th, 2013

LibDem Lord Plays Down “Mild Sexual Advances”

As Guido revealed in his Sun column yesterday, one fellow yellow peer has jumped to the defence of randy Rennard. Weirdy-beardy Lord Greaves has been fighting his corner on an internal party message board, suggesting the sex pest allegations were merely “mild sexual advances”.

“Are the allegations true? We will have to wait and see. Meanwhile I suggest people just calm down a bit. Is the alleged behaviour criminal? We don’t know the details of anything that may have happened. But it is hardly an offence for one adult person to make fairly mild sexual advances to another. What matters if whether they are pursued if they are rebuffed…In passing I would note and guess that if the allegations as made are a matter for resignation, perhaps around a half of the male members of the Lords over the age of 50 would probably not be seen again”

Then on a thread titled “Just a devious Beeb/Labour  plot to steal Eastleigh thunder”, Lord Greaves continues:

“Interesting to consider what is “sexual harassment”. Does one proposition constitute sexual harassment? If that is not normally the case (which seems common sense) might it do so in the particular context of the relationship between two people? And once there has been a refusal by the other person, how many more propositions constitute sexual harassment? We only know the identity of two of the complainants, as I understand it. In at least one case, if the event that is alleged too place, I’m surprised the response was not a slap in the face. But why the complaints have been made now is a mystery.”

Guido wonders what the party’s paltry female contingent would make of Greaves’ hands on attitude to dealing with the Rennard crisis. With friends like that…


165 Comments

  1. 1
    • 10
      Anonymous says:

      I wonder which political Totty shagged themselves into high positions.

    • 24
      reality Check says:

      To be honest. For most of the Adult population what he writes makes perfect sense and is reasonable.

      It is only in the warped minds of the Westminster village and the press that feeds off them that his words could be taken out of context.

      The real scandal here is Nick Clegg suddenly remembering that he did know all along and a person who he sacked for sexual indiscretions in the workplace is retired to the HoL as a thank you for services rendered.

      • 46
        Anon says:

        It is interesting though that Lord R thought the same strategy was sorth pursuing again and again and again. Maybe it was effective and the ratio of rebuffs to successful crude advances made it worth the effort.

        • 78

          Reminds me of a Brummie guy at Uni who was known for his chat-up line, “Do you fancy a fuck or am I wasting my time?” It certainly worked for him although heaven knows how?

        • 83
          Watcher in the Shadows says:

          Of course…. and the finest example is our old friend Handycock. Still at it after years of rebuffs but many successes. Watch this space for news of the latest High Court action. Not for nothing do they call him Teflon Man.

      • 110
        Cut-me-own-throat Dibbler says:

        Bollocks. Groping women is NOT making mild sexual advances.

      • 112
        Peter Expat says:

        I agree 100%. Rennard being randy is hardly an offence. It’s strange world that thinks it is. Clegg showing a lack of leadership is another matter. Then again the current crop of ‘leaders’ are pretty dismal.

      • 121
        Anonymous says:

        What exactly should have been done?

        Was there any police complaint? Without a complaint what could be done? However much a dislike Clegg, I see no ability in his position to be judge or jury in a spat between adults in a bar. These are supposedly political people, they are not in anyway vulnerable.

        To even equate this on any level to the cases involving the vulnerable is a further crime against those children.

        We now all know that whistle-blowers are continuously threatened and silenced, but to use the present climate for political gain for actions between adults is disgusting behaviour. This time is for the children that were ignored. The rest will be dealt with when we feel the vulnerable are safe. Those that kill for bonuses are the next on the list, way before any “crime” committed between equal adults.

        There is a time and a place for complaints like these. These women are showing severe lack of control and any empathy for the vulnerable.

    • 146
      Sir William Wade says:

      In my circle, sticking your hand down the back of a lady’s dress isn’t the usual mode of initiating intimate personal contact. The first move on the gentleman’s part should, I suggest, be one that can be declined without embarrassment to either party. Membership of the Liberal Democrats may however tend to coarsen a man’s manners.

  2. 2
    Perse O'Nally says:

    If they’re ‘mild sexual advances’ why was it necessary for Beaker to have a word in Rennard’s ear and why was it covered up?

  3. 3
    Vomit says:

    Wow. What a looker Lord Greaves is! The Lying Dumbocraps, the party for attractive people.

    • 16
      Aaron D Highside says:

      At least he looks like a proper Lib Dem! To be sure, I would need to see the footwear, of course.

    • 43
      Cecil Parkinson's best feature says:

      Looks can be so deceptive.

      The fact that someone looks like a lecherous old goat doesn’t mean that they are one.

      Obviously.

  4. 4
    Liar.Politicians says:

    Nick Clegg continues to dig a hole for himself.

  5. 6
    LB says:

    perhaps around a half of the male members of the Lords over the age of 50 would probably not be seen again”

    ===============

    He should name names.

  6. 7
    Hamish says:

    He’s right though, isn’t he?

  7. 8
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    It’s not groping as long as your fingers stay dry.

  8. 9
    It's rather enjoyable to loathe Clegg says:

  9. 11
    Never Trust a Lib Dem says:

    A drunken grope is one thing but we’re seeing a pattern emerge here, a man in high office seemingly hunting for low orifice.

  10. 12
    bergen says:

    I suppose that Lord Prescott makes up half of the male members of the House of Lords by weight so he may have a point.

  11. 13
    Ummm says:

    What exactly is wrong with anything he said?

  12. 14
    Chris says:

    A list of humans who’d have welcomed Rennard’s ‘mild sexual advances’:

  13. 17
    GOM says:

    That’s OK then.. I stroke a fit bird’s thigh under the table and that’s fine, a ‘mild sexual advance’. [Makes note to join LIBERAL Democrats]!!!

  14. 18
    Paniagua Dos says:

    Never mind all this about sexual advances.

    Can you imagine all the flora and fauna that must exist in that beard?

  15. 19
    Chav spotter says:

    I must say I think this man looks most distinguished

    And his wiki entry is virtually empty

    He has obviously just pronounced the only memorable words of a lifetime

    How on earth did someone like this become a Peer?

    Do you think he wears sandals? Or Doc Martin’s?

    Does he actually wash himself before coming to the House of Lords?

    Or is he a real chave in lamb’s slothing?

  16. 20
    WVM says:

    Lib / Lab / Con – a party of pervs, crooks and traitors.

    Vote Ukip – give all of the establishment a kicking.

    • 61
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      LOL.

      I wouldn’t be seen dead voting for a party that allows the crooked Hamiltons to join it.

      • 80
        Constance Briscoe says:

        Very well said.

        Vote UKIP Get Mossad.

      • 129
        pissed off voter says:

        does that mean you are content to vote for any of lib/lab/con who have lead the country into it’s current predicament (and made much personal profit in the process) ?

  17. 21
    pissed off voter says:

    Time to fix the crosshairs on Clegg.

  18. 23
    Overblown says:

    Seem quite reasonable points to me

  19. 25
    The Right Honourable George Osborne Mp says:

    I think we’ve got a very clear message, a loud and clear message that Britain cannot let up in dealing with its debts, dealing with its problems, cannot let up in making sure that Britain can pay its way in the world.

    • 32
      Paniagua Dos says:

      Why do you insist on posting this on every article Jimmy?

    • 135
      Moody's says:

      Dear George

      Just make things crystal clear we thought we should point out that our message is not that you should not let up indealing with your debts. It is that you have not been dealing with your debts and that, as a result, your entire economy has got dodgier.

      Please do something about it before we ahve to put you in the bargain basement with Greece.

      Yours faithfully

      Moody’s

  20. 26
    MVW says:

    Funny old game Politics eh Greavsy?

  21. 27
    Stu says:

    Can someone enlighten me as to what the fuck a mild sexual advance is?

  22. 28
    Handycock says:

    Phew! Takes the heat off me.

    Now, where was I, princess?

  23. 30
    English for Beginners says:

    “Guido wonders what the party’s paltry female contingent would make of Greaves’ hands”

    Greaves’s

  24. 37
    Voter With No Way To Turn says:

    ” I would note and guess that if the allegations as made are a matter for resignation, perhaps around a half of the male members of the Lords over the age of 50 would probably not be seen again”

    WE WISH, even the CONVICTED criminal Lords are welcomed back into the money making machine that is the upper house, with welcome open arms.

    …and we have to pay for the slippery f*****s

  25. 38
    Ermine and the Beaver says:
  26. 41
    John Prescott (Labour Letch-In-Chief) says:

    I was carrying out party instructions on behalf of Harriet, when she said “we should have more women in the corridors of power” – So immediately took Tracey up both corridors just to be on the safe side!

  27. 45
    Amanita Phalloides says:

    No wonder the LibDems are such a wet and useless bunch.

    They can’t even do sex and molestation properly, and even “Lord” Prescott managed to give Tracey the benefit of his chipolata in the office and for real.

  28. 47
    Ben Fellowes says:

    I wish people would listen to me.

  29. 48
    Loopy Lou says:

    If you put your hands down my pants ,sir ,the force you apply matters not one jot .

    You hands are still in my pants where they should not be .

  30. 49
    albacore says:

    Keep farting around with these endless scandals
    Lib, Lab or Con, never mind the perps’ handles
    It’s far more important who they got to screw
    Than we never voted to join the E U
    We’ll have that referendum, there’s no doubt about that
    Once enough immigrant “in” voters can skin the cat

    • 141

      Indeed, and the elephant in the room is the debt left by the LibLabCon of £17,868 for every man, woman and child, that’s more than £39,340 for every person in employment.

      Every household will pay £1,919 this year, just to cover the interest alone.

  31. 50
    John Major says:

    Shocking, absolutely shocking.

    I fancy a hot Currie tonight.

  32. 51
    Handycock says:

    I heartily recommend keeping advances to teenies, far more compliant than all those whingeing, savvy, milfs.

    • 67
      Wayne Rooney says:

      Yeah, but there’s nothing better than a pair of eyes with crow’s-feet, and a pair of droopers and a flabby bum, is there now?

  33. 54
    Wandering hands says:

  34. 57
    Chris Hunhe says:

    This is disgraceful and proof that I should have been Mr Leader.

    First Clegg goes round saying one thing about something that happened a good few years ago, and then when the evidence starts to mount says something completely different. The man is clearly not to be trusted.

    Oh wait…

  35. 62
    Chris Huhne says:

    LOL

    He who laughs last laughs loudest. I haven’t finished with Clegg yet though.

  36. 64
    Hank the Cat says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen the one you have been waiting for, yes, The Oscar For The Most Useless Politician Wearing A Silly Hat, and the winner is, Come ON down Viiiiiiiiince Caaaable

    • 68
      The Happy liberal Care Home says:

      You mean he has escaped again, its bad enough turning up in the HoC but bloody LA, get him back now and that sodding hat goes back into the play box

  37. 70
    Just Asking says:

    If we were part of the eurozone would we not be forced to cut public spending much more than the piss-poor pathetic gestures we’re making at the moment? An independent currency just gives politicians the opportunity to debauch it.

  38. 72
  39. 73
    Show me a LibDem and I'll show you a Scandal says:
  40. 75
    damned impertinent questions says:

    Let me explain to the noble Lord

    Saying “I just wondered if you might like to go out some time” – acceptable

    Running your hand up the thigh of a junior female member of staff – not acceptable

    Stroking hair / breasts / back/ legs – not acceptable.

    Got it yet?

    • 82
      Lard Pressclott of Beams, Bellies, Banjos, Bulimia, two bog seats, two Jags & Shags. says:

      No, Tracey. I’ll keep trying.

  41. 79
    Calamity Clegg says:

    I’d like to get to the bottom of this…..

  42. 81
    damned impertinent questions says:

    What is it about Liberals and memory loss?

    First Huhne now Clegg.

    Its never the incident that gets em ….its the cover up

  43. 84
    Abdel from Tooting says:

    Between 10;00 pm Saturday and 10.00 pm Sunday I sold just 16 beef burgers in my takeaway.

    I have 976 frozen burgers in my freezer .

    I am ruined and all you the Government can do is talk about sex !

  44. 85
    eddyh says:

    If half the male members of the HoL over the age of 50 would not be seen again that would be great.

    • 127
      Part of our "democracy" but never present says:

      Like Gordo half of the male members of the House of Lords are never seen anyway.

  45. 86
  46. 87
    A Reporter from the Daily Planet says:

    There are at least three other front line Liberals against whom similar allegations have been raised .

    Thursday’s by election might just have to be cancelled.

  47. 92
    Vince Cables Medication says:

    I never knowingly knew anything about nothing

  48. 93
    Oh the Irony! says:

    “This program has been edited since first broadcast”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qhb8b

  49. 95
    Ryanair says:

    Mr Clegg we have confirmed your one way return flight back to Spain for this evening, but your credit card appears to not be functioning. Please ring the call centre

  50. 99
    Lard Pressclott of Beams, Bellies, Banjos, Bulimia, two bog seats, two Jags & Shags. says:

    Touching up women in the workplace is disgusting #OldHypocrites’R’us

  51. 101
    Guido Fawkes says:

    Me being rude: Shut the fuck up. Me being polite: Please shut the fuck up.

  52. 104
    Stephanie Flanders and the BBC are not best pleased says:

    Markets shrug off Britain’s downgrade

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/02/downgrade-has-limited-effect-on-the-markets/

  53. 106
    Weygand says:

    So some ugly fat guy makes passes at lots of women. Hold the front page.

    No doubt he has to and no doubt had he been more Beckamesque in appearance, these girls would not have complained.

    The real story as identified, by Greaves, is why this issue has been raised now (on the eve of a bye-election) and aided if not instigated by Lib Dems?

    Far more important than who didn’t shag who.

    Come on Guido, what’s going on?

    • 142
      Cha spotter says:

      Simples

      The Murdoch Mob at work

      Guido kites these allegations in 2009

      Now they come out just at the right time to cause maximum damage to the LibDems and Coalition just before Eastleigh etc

      Guido is part of the Murdoch Black Ops department

      PS How many of the NOWT staff are now working for the Sun?!

  54. 108
    Hancock, has Clegg heard the Hancock allegations? I reckon he has says:
    • 111
      And Hancock? What did Clegg do about Hancock? says:
  55. 109
    MB. says:

    Seems as if resignation is in fashion.

    “Britain’s most senior Roman Catholic cleric, Cardinal Keith O’Brien, is resigning as Archbishop of St Andrews and Edinburgh, after being accused of inappropriate conduct, the BBC learns.”

  56. 120
    Babylons burning says:

    Guido, what about the shock resignation of Cardinal Keith O’Brien following hard on the heels of allegations of innapropriate behaviour and this just a few weeks after the shock resignation of the Pope himself !!!! Looks like the Scarlet Lady is imploding !

  57. 122
    The Elephant in the room says:

    It seems to me that two main sources of kiddyfiddling through the years has been The Church and the Public Schools.

    • 127
      Labour 25 + 25 says:

      …and politicos

    • 131
      Mr Bean counter says:

      Not according to the stats. A child is most at risk from family.

      • 145
        Anonymous says:

        When one deletes all records of any person in authority from statistics the only ones left are the individuals without authority.

      • 158
        The Elephant in the room says:

        Please read my post properly I didnt say they were the only sources I said two main sources are…. That is a correct statement as far as institutions go they are amongst the worst for having a sub culture of noncing . Of course it can also be argued that some of he abuse occuring in families have a root in some of the cases in abusers having been abused themselves by Priests and the like. Im sure many roads lead to Rome.

  58. 123
    Lord Rennard the Fox says:

    Vote Liberal Democrat or we’ll shoot your fox.

  59. 125
    Penfold says:

    How can one try to justify inappropiate sexual advances, or for that matter to suggest that there is a level of inappropiateness, ranking from, just one of those things that boys indulge in, to, oh dear did he rally rape her.

    For far too long the Limp-Dicks have been able to picture themselves as whiter than white, nice to see the image cracking up.

  60. 130
    genghiz the kahn says:

    We would like to thank Lord Rennard of Hooters, Nick Clegg and the Lib Dems for showing that they are full of incompetent sleazeballs & for taking the pressure of us.

    signed.

    BBC Newsnight, BBC News Editors, George Osborne, Dave Cameron, The Conservative Party, David Nicholson, Chris Patten, Peter Rippon, Helen Boaden, Charles Kennedy, The Labour Party, Ed Balls, Ed Milband, Gordon Brown, Financial Services Agency, Food Standards Agency, Moody’s, Polly Toynbee and T~he Guardian, Mervyn King, Mid Staffs NHS Health Authority, Andy Burnham, Cardinal Keith O’Brien, The Irish Rugby Football Union

  61. 133
    Axe the TV Tax says:

    What’s wrong with the BBC being a subscription service?

    What are the BBC so scared of?

  62. 134
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    What I find sickening is how the BBC goes on about Clegg, Rennard, and the Catholic bloke, without proof. But the BBC redacts passages of text from their inquiry. How can a publicly funded organisation as the BBC be so hypocritical.
    The BBC is beyond a joke.

  63. 137
    Georgous George says:

    All I am interested in is …

    IS he an Israeli?

  64. 138
    MB. says:

    School in Surrey says all children must be driven to school, not allowed to walk!

    “Children to be banned from walking and cycling to North Downs Primary School
    Thursday, February 21, 2013
    Dorking Advertiser
    CHILDREN will be banned from cycling and walking to two primary school sites over fears it would be too dangerous.”

    So much for stopping them getting overweight by exercise.

    • 151
      Anonymous says:

      If the taxi drivers are like the ones around here, the risks are far greater to children than walking. If they want to impose restrictions outside their site then they should think clearly about the implications.

      • 159
        Catty Comment (Ms) says:

        None of their damn business how the kids get to and from school. Their authority stops at the school gate. Tell ‘em to effoff and mind their own business.. oh, and start teaching their pupils how to read, write and do sums properly.

  65. 139
    Jimmy says:

    Ten out of ten stories on the front page. In guidoworld this is literally the biggest thing ever to happen anywhere.

  66. 140
    Any insomniacs? says:
  67. 147
    Oops says:

    Is Lord Greaves a groper? Groper Greaves has a certain ring to it.

  68. 148
    eek says:

    Can you imagine porkie salivating Lord Rennard sweatily groping grotesque leftie dwarf Sarah Teather?

    It’s the stuff of nightmares!


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