February 22nd, 2013

Tories’ Black Belt Plan to Chop UKIP Vote

The Tories are definitely not worried about UKIP, that’s why they have asked one of their top MEPs to come up with a three point plan to beat them. David Campbell Bannerman, who was UKIP deputy leader before returning to the Tories, highlights the dangers in a “creative” briefing note seen by Guido:

“Judo teaches you to use the strength of an opponent against them. Applying this analogy to UKIP, we should acknowledge the one strength of UKIP: they seem to be in tune with the majority of the British population on the EU issue. Multiple polls show that over 54% of the public and two-thirds of Conservative Party supporters (You Gov Poll August 2011) want to leave the EU. They may appear to be more in tune with traditional Conservatives on other policies such as immigration, grammar schools or the environment”

Rather bizarrely, Campbell Bannerman goes on to tell Tory candidates to disrupt UKIP pub meetings: “let the pub landlord know that people attending these meetings must not be given any free food or drink as this is classified as treating”. That’ll make the difference in the Euros…


134 Comments

  1. 1
    Al Murray pub landlord says:

    I’ll buy everyone a free pint if they vote UKIP!

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  2. 2
    Bill Smith says:

    Just one more good reason to vote UKIP

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  3. 3
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Do your worst you Tory sellouts – we in UKIP will do our best.

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    • 22
      Anarchists In Blazers says:

      UKIP is full of people who defected to the party. But I have to ask what is their worth. I much prefer people who are completely new to politics to get involved otherwise we are simply sticking a new badge on the old problem.

      For example my public response to the former mayor of Eastleigh sticking the knife into his old colleagues would have been ‘Go away turd’. As it is we’re not in a position to carp on about Mr Bannerman’s treachery.

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  4. 4
    SomeoneElse says:

    the guy is a self serving trougher… thats why he went with EUkip in the first place.

    The tories should’ve told him to take a hike, unless they needed his votes in the EU for the fishing discards which EUkip failed to vote on …..or even turn up.

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    • 8
      SomeoneElse says:

      UKIP members feel let down after investing time and considerable sums of money to help get him elected.

      But Mr Bannerman has probably made the right choice politically. Several months before he defected, a senior UKIP source that the members were unlikely to reselect him for the next European elections.

      His future now seems pretty secure. At the last European elections, the Tories automatically put incumbent MEPs at the top the top of party lists. If the same system is repeated for the 2014 elections, he is effectively guaranteed reelection.

      btw…. is he still under investigation for fraud? maybe he picked up some tips from EUkip’s Peter Reeve

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      • 58
        Casual Observer says:

        There is some corruption over in the EUKIP side which the members do want cleaned up, and that is happening.

        Can only guess that the reason this has not been jumped on is that with the problems the LibLabCon are dealing with at the moment they simply can’t.

        It is predominantly expenses fraud, and attacking the Euro Members of Parliament in Europe, seeing as expenses fraud and in one case a sort of election fraud has taken place, would be counterproductive to the pro-EU message they have foolishly committed to give.

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        • 123
          Curly wonders says:

          Is this bloke related to somebody of the same name who was some big fish or other in government a decade or two ago?

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  5. 5
    WVM says:

    “let the pub landlord know that people attending these meetings must not be given any free food or drink as this is classified as treating”.

    That’ll teach us our place.

    Vote Ukip

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    • 20
      Engineer says:

      Can’t remember the last time I got any free food or drink in a pub. Mind you, I’m not a member of any political party, and don’t attend political meetings.

      Given the state of the pub trade these days, it’s either a very fortunate or very generous landlord that can afford to give out free food and drink to political meetings.

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  6. 6
    Dino says:

    What petty BS. Instead of asking why the Tory party is a dead brand, a Socialist front, they perform acts of vandalism. They are dead men walking and they don’t even know it.

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  7. 7
    Popeye says:

    Another Wutz with a master plan.
    Eastleigh looks good for UKIP.

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  8. 9
    Buster Gasket says:

    All 3 main political parties are the same. In last year’s local elections my ward returned 3 UKIP councillors. The ousted Tories tried every trick in the book to cry “Foul!” The Returning Officer gave them short shrift. BUT, should UKIP manage to change the face of UK politics, it will be just the same when the big 3 are Cons Lab and UKIP. Nature of the beast.

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    • 54
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      Having read the LabLibCon party manifesto, the only alternative choice is UKIP. The LabLibCon party offer just more and more socialism and EU serfdom.

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      • 130
        Statement Of Fact says:

        “Nigel Farage is an arse, his party is mainly made up of bigots and its policies are racist.” Tom Morello, guitarist, from Rage Against The Machine

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    • 87
      pissed off voter says:

      Largely agree with that but SNP in Scotland are doing a fairish job with the knock-on effect that liblabcon are slowly – very, very slowly :( – improving their attittude. Admittedly, they are coming from a very low base and it will be a long long time before they become anywhere near acceptable to me.

      I think give UKIP a chance. liblabcon have many times proved a vote for them is a wasted vote. UKIP will at least get us out of the EU and thereafter can be judged on their performance.

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  9. 10
    Steve Miliband says:

    ”They may appear to be more in tune with traditional Conservatives on other policies such as immigration, grammar schools or the environment”

    I have a cunning plan – why not tune into traditional Conservatives

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  10. 11
    Vote Diane James for Eastleigh! says:

    Basically he is saying that UKIP are the TRUE Conservatives!

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  11. 13
    Jimbo says:

    The Conservative Party are finished and they really dont know it, Cameron is just placing in position the finishing touches, one wonders where he will turn up after he loses his seat at the next election and who will be paying him vast amounts of money for giving speeches (like his hero Blair) ” How I destroyed The Conservative Party in Gt Britain filled the Island with immigrants and destroyed the Gt British culture for good and destroyed its monetry system “

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  12. 14
    David Alexander Smith says:

    UKIP is the only way forward give them a chance

    Sign this petition to restrict Bulgarian and Romanians from entering the UK:

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41492

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  13. 16
    Casual Observer says:

    Interesting memo: Attacking free food and drink is not going to help as most UKIP attendees do not go for that.

    However, that may be code for label any UKIP pub gathering as a dangerous right wing convention and send rent-a-lefty goon squad down to disrupt and try to get the meeting shut down by the local authority. That has been the pattern with certain legitimate meetings raising awareness of Common Purpose.

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    • 29
      Your Friendly Neighbourhood Crowd Control Suggestions Service says:

      Oh, that’s easy to remedy. Just book the room for a meeting of the “Greater Bogbrush Area Baseball Club,” and show up with a few, ermm, “clubs”…

      “Take me out to the ball game…
      “For it’s one, two, three ‘strikes’, you’re out…”

      And we do mean STRIKES, not swings-and-misses…
      That’ll learn ‘em.

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      • 60
        Casual Observer says:

        I think they are more than capable of dealing with things robustly, however that is not the style of politic they are conducting, or a legal way to proceed.

        The majority of ‘right wing’ gatherings which are labelled as dangerous and attract the lefty protest rabble are usually meetings which are speaking of issues which are against certain left wing agendas. Common Purpose information sessions are one, anything discussing issues of sovereignty another.

        Many local authorities and police forces are now wise to this one thinks, but it does give an insight into the way that ‘dirty politics’ has evolved in response to leaving the baseball bats at home.

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    • 42
      Jimmy says:

      Historically when righties have gathered in beer halls it has ended badly.

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      • 49
        historical correction says:

        I think you mean National Socialists.

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        • 62
          SP4BS says:

          I especially liked their fünfobstundgemüseführer song.

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        • 88
          Anonymous says:

          Hard-Righties/National Socialists – all the same.

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        • 101
          Truth says:

          There is nothing wrong with National Socialist, if we had a NS government we would not be in the mess we are today. National Socialism in Britain like the restof Europe is on the rise and everyone should do what they are told to do about Multiculturism and “embrace it” celebrate the diversity of NS in Politics.
          It has to come folks, you cut down Freedom of speech, you are getting rid of the Conservative Party, Most of the population feel that they at war with thier own Government, it is all coming to a sticky end, Face it we are heading towards the third world war.

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          • Anonymous says:

            “There is nothing wrong with National Socialist”.
            Wonder how many on this site gave a cheer at that part of your comment?

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      • 61
        I Remember You Hoo says:

        Yeah Jimmy, you are so right. I mean just what was this ‘right wing’ guy on about?

        “My dear citizens! We are living through a National Socialist revolution. We emphasize the term “socialist” because many speak only of a “national” revolution. Dubious, but also wrong. It was not only nationalism that led to the breakthrough. We are proud that German socialism also triumphed.”

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      • 64
        Casual Observer says:

        Yep – that was national socialists, or socialists as per the Nuremberg gatherings, if you are referring to beer hall meetings in Germany.

        This has recently been repeated in a way at certain coffee shops in the UK recently.

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  14. 17
    SP4BS says:

    What is “treating”?
    Does it have a special meaning in elections?

    If they do get free beer in them, they might end up ranting. I read of one that got booted out for talking to much pub bollockx.

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  15. 18
    Jimmy says:

    He is encouraging each of you to get in touch with your inner bastard.

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  16. 23
    Rotherham children's services says:

    And do not forget to remove the children.

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  17. 26
    albacore says:

    Well done there, Tories – you ain’t arf shedding
    Some voters with dear booze and gay wedding
    Now it just needs Ed and Nick to be tits
    (And in their cases, that cap shirley fits)
    And UKIP will romp home, easy-peasy
    With their first M P down south in Eastleigh

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    • 30
      Raving Loon says:

      It’s possible. The 3 main parties will give the impression that Armageddon will happen if we leave.

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      • 32
        Casual Observer says:

        That has already been done a few times. Doesn’t wash anymore.

        Better out than in is now realized. However, it is withdrawing from the EU and winding the clock back to 1996 as far as Europe is concerned which is all that should be desired. Leaving the Common Market itself is not really desirable, but even if that happened it would not be the end of the world.

        Even the EU Federalists have realized that Federation by treaty-tweaking, which is what has been going on, is not going to work. Fundamentally it cannot.

        Before you form a Federation, a constitution is required. That cannot be formed now, and Lisbon treaty is no substitute.

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    • 57
      albacore says:

      You want to bet which way London would go?
      That it’s British now is only for show
      And with all and sundry Dave’s pulling in
      Our future’s set as the E U dustbin
      Leave that referendum a year or two
      And the rug will be pulled from under you

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  19. 37
    Anonymous says:

    Is not “buying a round” technically treating?
    Best not to start digging up old laws as they they tend to grant rights beyond the grasp of parliament

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    • 41
      SP4BS says:

      You’d just have to make your wife do it. That would confuse everyone.

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      • 65
        Confused Juror says:

        Can my bit on the side claim marital coercion if she claims benefits twice and buys me a beer and don’t want to go to jail, innit ?

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  20. 39
    lastofthesummervintage says:

    F**K Bannerman, just another Tory wan**r who couldn’t cut it in UKIP.
    a traitor to our country

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  21. 40
    Tim Yeo's Laptop says:

    ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ

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  22. 44
    Sir William Wade says:

    The original Campbell Bannerman was a bit of a mixed bag as PM. On the positive side, he was in favour of free trade and Irish home rule, but on the negative side he gave Trade Unions legal immunity. This chap just looks like a politician, alas.

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  23. 48
    Anonymous says:

    What a Hune

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  24. 52

    Hi,

    David Bannerman is a self serving, dishonest liar & cheat – well suited to EU politics.

    He is still under investigation by OLAF for fraudulent abuse of public funds, along with his fellow charlatan Stuart Agnew, also an MEP, who openly admitted defrauding the public purse on behalf of UKIP to fund staff & political activities.

    Derek Clarke UKIP MEP was found guilty and ordered top repay over £30,000 he had perloined as with Tom Wise UKIP MEP who stole a similar sum, with help from sometime Tory Lindsay Jenkins, and he was sentenced to 2 years in prison.

    David Bannerman’s route back to the gravy train is not that assured as he is so despised by the Tories for his duplicity & corruption the present MEPs in his region have opted to stand again to try to block his duplicitous greed.

    The Tories’ only hope is he has one of his lame scripts adopted as he is on record as aiming to dump politics for Hollywood if he ever had the chance!

    Regards,
    Greg_L-W.

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    • 56
      Anarchists In Blazers says:

      You missed Mote.

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      • 69

        Hi,

        no I did not miss Ashley Mote as he did not get sent to prison for criminal actions whilst in betrayal of trust as an MEP.

        Unlike Nigel Farage & Jeffrey Titford, Graham Booth and others, all of whom were found guilty of abuse of public funds and ordered to repay money they had perloined whilst in a position of trust as elected representatives of these United Kingdoms.

        Regards,
        Greg_L-W.

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        • 81
          Anarchists In Blazers says:

          There clearly has been individual malfeasance. However UKIP didn’t send them over there to be good MEPs, we sent them there to make trouble and to bring money back to the Party so that we can campaign in the UK to get out.

          I don’t care which party they belong to if a politician betrays trust they should be hung from a lamp post.

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          • Hi,

            I do agree – but in the vein of making trouble in Brussels and bringing money back being the task of UKIP MEPs you will note not one of them has made ANY notable donations to the party beyond efforts to get tyhemselves re-elected.

            Were they successful then perhaps their achievements in domestic politics might not be so risible after 20 years.

            However they may be more successful than I thought, have you reason to believe they MAY have caused trouble and have money to bring back for the party – surely they were not involved in the recent diamond heist!”

            regards,
            Greg_L-W.

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  25. 55
    old SHEP says:

    I’ve never come across pub landlord that hands out free food or drink, but I like his analysis that UKIP pose a threat because they have the effrontery to propose policies which the vast majority the electorate approve of, well certainly the Conservative electorate, bit of a problem Hey!.

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    • 68
      My Real Name says:

      Plenty of free food and drinks at the Queen Vic, Rover’s Return and other soap opera pubs though – it’s always drinks on the house on the TV!

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  26. 59
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron you piece of spineless shit, dismantle the BBC.

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    • 66
      My Real Name says:

      Hah! Cameron had the chance, but virtually the first thing he did on election was agree the license fee for the next few years, rather than scrapping it and selling off the anti-competitive BBC monopoly instead.

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    • 97
      Anonymous says:

      Have we love our adverts?

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  27. 67
    Gawd Help Us says:

    “who was UKIP deputy leader before returning to the Tories,”

    Well he’s a novel character, jumping ON a sinking ship.

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    • 73

      Hi,

      from one ‘stinking’ ship to another.

      Let us not forget David Bannerman’s long list of failures as a Tory before he betrayed them the first time and saw an opportunity for self enrichment with Nigel Farage who was happy to boast of David Bannerman’s lies regarding his ancestry and the merits of his CV, which were well embellished relative to the truth!!

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

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  28. 70
    Raving Loon says:

    No chops in Judo, Guido.

    Better to say Ippon or something like Osaekomi.

    Sorry to nitpick.

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    • 74
      Bruce Lee says:

      Kung Fu beat Judo

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      • 85
        Brandon Lee says:

        Colt 45 beat Kung Fu.

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        • 90
          Inspector J Lee says:

          All that they [ the Nova Mob ] offer is a screen to cover retreat from the colony they have so disgracefully mismanaged. To cover travel arrangements so they will never have to pay the constituents they have betrayed and sold out. Once these arrangements are complete they will blow the place up behind them.

          And what does my program of total austerity and total resistance offer you? I offer you nothing. I am not a politician. These are conditions of total emergency. And these are my instructions for total emergency if carried out now could avert the total disaster now on tracks:

          Peoples of the earth, you have all been poisoned. … I order total resistance directed against this conspiracy to pay off peoples of the earth in ersatz bullsh!t. I order total resistance directed against The Nova Conspiracy and all those engaged in it.

          The purpose of my writing is to expose and arrest Nova Criminals. …
          Minutes to go. Souls rotten from their orgasm drugs, flesh shuddering from their nova ovens, prisoners of the earth to come out. With your help we can occupy The Reality Studio and retake their universe of Fear Death and Monopoly -

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      • 91
        Raving Loon says:

        Headache pill beat Bruce Lee.

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  29. 77
    The Common Law says:

    Under UK Common Law a publican can refuse to serve anyone at their own discretion:

    http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Business-Support/Pub-licensee-s-right-to-reject-custom

    This does not contravene discrimination law.

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  30. 82
    hmmm says:

    I often really am concerned what planet politicians are on.

    Landlords will probably host UKIP meeting for free because the members will buy the beer there not the other way round.

    The guy seriously thinks landlords give out free drinks and nibbles ?

    Lunatic.

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    • 86
      Point of Information says:

      Particularly this one.

      Standard practice would be to dump this on the Brussels credit card and to hell with the consequence.

      Not like anyone audits anything. If you are caught out, just repay and move on.

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  31. 83
    Fact Hunt says:

    If I were an Eastleigh voter I would vote UKIP, not necessarily because I agree with them on everything, but to put a fucking rocket up Camoron, Millionaireband & Clagg. You could then tell your grandkids ‘I was there when the people finally decided that enough was enough’.

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    • 102
      Psephologist says:

      Quite right too. This is what By-elections are all about. A strong vote for UKIP will show Cameron, Miliband, Clegg and Van Rumpoy that here in Britain we mean business and want OUT. Somewhat surprisingly, a big vote for UKIP here will greatly strengthen Cameron’s hand when/if he gets to ‘negotiation’. Why do you suppose he got the support of Germany over the EU Budget deal. It was directly due to his speech offering a Referendum. Thank UKIP for that too.

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  32. 93
    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    I. Wonder whevre he got. that pint from ?

    Was that an unsolicited gift from. Mine. Host ?

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  33. 95
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Maybe Guido should give us another update on the Commons dinner menu – so we can keep tabs on the MPs’ treats.

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  34. 98
    Jimmy Savilles ghost says:

    I hear 1 million kids will arrive in the UK next January and they can’t even speak English?? Has anyone got a defrib?? I’m not as dead as you think!!!

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  35. 99
    campbell bannermans mum says:

    campbell bannerman is a twat

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  36. 103
    Ahitophel says:

    When King David was trying to defeat a rebellion by his son Absalom (II Samuel 17) he got his companion Hushai the Archite to give bad advice to Absalom while posing as a adviser, then report back to David what Absalom’s tactics were and how to beat them. Maybe that’s what’s going on here.

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  37. 108
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    Simple Tories, it’s really not that difficult: hold the EU referendum now, not in a year, not in 2015, not on the 12th of never. Now. Do that, and the election is won.

    Unless of course your lazy, slimy and inadequate leader has nothing but a future cushy job in the EU in mind.

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  38. 109
    Marc Carnage says:

    Common Purpose, eh? Will wiki that.

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    • 115
      blub says:

      I wonder what people with a communist mindset did when the Communist Party gave up on class-based revolution?

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  39. 110
    Anonymous says:

    Is this really the Greg…. Lance (the Lance bit is made up)…. Watkins, well known UKIP hater commenting on the good character of others?

    The same Greg Watkins of the manor of Chepstow who has a well publicised firearms conviction?

    Surely not!

    Pot and kettles and all that sort of thing!

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    • 125

      Hi,

      coming from someone too ashamed to put their name to their ill informed & misleading efforts to defame speaks volumes of the character of the coward.

      Yes I have a technical firearms conviction from over 30 years ago as a result of accidental import of a girlfriend’s pistol when we moved back to Britain!

      Regards,
      Greg_L-W.

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  40. 116
    Can't take yo' shit nomore says:

    “the one strength of UKIP: they seem to be in tune with the majority of the British population”

    The clue is in the analysis you clueless tory arse-bandits.

    Go back to your constituencies and prepare to be fucked up the arse – orange and stockings optional.

    There is one thing more stupid than Cameron – a tory who supports Cameron.

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  41. 128
    Taran-tara says:

    It is pointless to sign David’s petition as our government has no power to stop the millions of Bulgarians and Romanians who will be turning up here claiming houses and benefits in a very short time. Unless we leave the EU we are helpless to defend our country and what remains of our assets.
    The Coalition is a rubbish government as was Labour and as any future Labour government will prove to be again. All garbage. We need an honest PM like Farage and a government with power – not puppets of the EU.
    As for the sneers about righties and fuhrers, Hitler was not a “rightie” he was a socialist. He said, “We (the National Socialist Party) are socialists, we are enemies of the capitalist economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with it’s unfair salaries, with it’s unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance and we are determined to destroy this system.”
    Blah blah blah, just like Blair Blair Blair.

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    • 134
      Blast From The Past says:

      National Socialism:

      “German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi party in Germany. In its intense nationalism mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian facism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy.” (Encyclopedia Britannica)

      Apart from the name, what has this hard-right BS to do with Socialism?

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