February 20th, 2013

Guardian Abolish Job of Woman on Maternity Leave


  1. 1
    Arnie says:

    Oh is that a job title Woman on Maternirty Leave?

  2. 2
    Daily Telegraph says:

    Come on Ros….you could bring the Grauniad down.

  3. 3
    Harridan Harmanhater says:

    Can I make some political capital here ?

  4. 4
    Calamity Clegg says:


  5. 5
    Fishy says:

    ‘Rosamund Taylor, the now former editor of Guardian law, has been literally left holding the baby’ and is currently en-route to Unfair Dismissals R Us!

  6. 6
    Alan Rustberger says:

    Let me express my support by playing a rousing rendition of
    We’re Going to Hang out the Washing on the Siegfried Line

  7. 7
    Tooth fairy says:

    So the other legal side to the story could be ….. she is returning to some other job. God forbid that the discriminate against her.

  8. 8
    Sid and Doris from east grinstead says:

    we wept

  9. 9
    Hey, Ros says:

    But it is a womans job is to be at home.

  10. 10
    Sid and Doris from east grinstead says:

    and you’re going to have lots of time for ironing

  11. 11

    Employment Law is no longer one of my closer interests but I have a feeling that the current, albeit unsatisfactory, state of law might have something to say about this.

    Since it is the Grauniad, I feel that I can let go of my finer thoughts and shout out loudly Go on Ros! Go and get them, gal!

  12. 12
    prezza says:

    bloody right

  13. 13
    Tom Tit says:

    She should have kept her fucking knees together before she let some twunt throw his beans up her axe wound.

  14. 14
    Brick E says:

    By no stretch of the imagination is editing http://guardian.co.uk/law a job.

  15. 15
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    Who outside of the BBC knows who the hell Ross Taylor is.

  16. 16

    It is how we all got here so maybe you are being a bit hard – or not…

  17. 17
    Anonymous says:

    Fucking lefty Nazis.

  18. 18
  19. 19
    Guardian Reader says:

    Damn right!

  20. 20
    anon says:

    We’ve got fucking “journalists” crawling out from every crevice. It makes me want to puke.

  21. 21
    Pa for it yourselves, muffmunchers says:

    IVF for lesbians. Fucking magic, more money wasted on a lifestyle choice.

  22. 22
    8 days and counting says:

    If the Grauniad have been cutting back on their HR department then yes there could be a case.

    There was talk of abolishing maternity leave itself a few years back:


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  24. 24
    Axe Wound, FFS? says:

    And I thought I was a misogynist.

  25. 25
    Herman van Rumpboy says:

    Plenty of workers’ rights, fewer and fewer workers.

  26. 26
    Tom Tit says:

    They done her a favor, at her age the kid is bound to be a bit of a mong, she’ll need all the time she can get to wipe the piss off the slimy smiling little fucker.

  27. 27
    To be fair, though...... says:

    Who, apart from you and me, knows that this blog exists?

  28. 28
    Owen jones says:

    You wont catch me on maternity leave, and some guy pumped his nuts into me last night.

  29. 29
    Guardian says:

    It’s ok when we do it.

  30. 30
    Gordon Brown says:

    My birthday should be celebrated all across the land!

  31. 31
    Richard Littledong, Daily Something says:

    Sandra Parsons is the worst.

  32. 32
    Pissed Off Tax Payers says:

    It’s the 20 years of funding your AIDS medication that bothers us.

  33. 33
    Sandra Parsons says:

    Richard Littlecock is the worst.

  34. 34
    Owen jones says:

    Yes we’ve spotted that one.

  35. 35
    Learn to Count with Ed Balls says:

    One seven is seven,
    two sevens are fifteen,
    three sevens are forty-five,
    eleventeen sevens are twelvety,
    six sevens are minus eight.

  36. 36

    I think we have a new version of ‘Never work for a liberal employer, dear boy: they’ll sack you on Christmas Eve’

  37. 37
    Sockpuppet #96 says:


  38. 38
    Learn to Count with Ed Balls says:

    Twenty years? That’s about three-and-a-half weeks, isn’t it?

  39. 39
    Jim White says:

    What about “Mad” Mel Phillips?

  40. 40

    It opens up a huge subject which I will sidestep for now.

    It is instructive though to examine statutory rights such as maternity/paternity leave though the lens of how they are regarded by:

    1.) A state employee and

    2.) A one man/woman-band or small business

    Where the outcome is measured in a vastly different way, then one has to consider the wisdom of legislation which, of itself, affects the elective choice.

  41. 41
    One of the LibLabCon's beloved misogynist Muzzies says:

    +10 million

  42. 42
    Rip Van Winkle says:


  43. 43
    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    All work contracts should have a stipulation that all payroll personnel are NEVER EVER to indulge in unprotected sex on pain of instanr dismissal without redress.


    This would be non discriminatory as it applies to. “all “. Sexes. And would simultaneously decimate population growth thus alleviating future swathes of mass unemployment and saving the earths resources for another thirty odd years which will let us pampered baby boomers live out the rest of our futile existence with minimal difficulties and in the manner to which we have become accustomd .

    Ian drunken spliff would be happy too as the pramface population and its attendant expense would taper to nil as the new law takes hold .

  44. 44
  45. 45
    Turkey Basters R Us says:

    “It is how we all got here”

    Not in the case of Brown’s kids..

  46. 46
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    65 MPs should not be returning to Parliament after the next election because Mr Cameron said their jobs were being abolished.

  47. 47

    Employment and human rights lawyers you can trust!

    {note* Our definition of trust may differ from yours.}

    Dear Miz Taylor,
    Congratulations on your recent new potential client birthing, and commiserations on your recent loss of work.

    we understand that you are a law journalist, and even better, one for a particularly human rights, worker supporting journal, so should be well aquainted with the UK/EU laws relating to maternity and redundancies.

    However, if we may be so bold, to highlight,
    The law makes it clear that:

    During the protected period unfavourable treatment of a woman because she is pregnant or on maternity leave is unlawful. This means a woman doesn’t have to compare her treatment with anyone else to show direct pregnancy and maternity discrimination.

    A woman on maternity leave has the right to return to the same job before she left; an interim employee cannot be given her job even if you think the person is a better employee.

    Selecting a woman for redundancy because of her pregnancy, maternity leave or a related reason is automatically unfair dismissal as well as being unlawful discrimination.

    Failure to consult a woman on maternity leave about possible
    redundancy is likely to be unlawful discrimination.

    A woman made redundant while on maternity leave must be offered any suitable alternative vacancy if you have one. She doesn’t need to apply for it.

    Our card is enclosed
    Please call the number to discuss your recent dismissal at the hands of those heartless, capitalist, bosses from the corporate media.
    We feel confident we can make up for the distress you have suffered and obtain suitable six figured recompense for your scandalous treatment.
    {45% win fee applies}

    William Quango QC

  48. 48
    Labour ruined Britain (and now it's ConDem'd) says:

    You are a senior manager in the NHS and I claim my £10.

  49. 49
    Owen jones says:

    It’s a lifestyle choice like not working you know, and I’m going to be keeping the NHS busy otherwise they will all have to be made redundent by those evil Tories.

  50. 50
    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    Oh sorry. I forgot .

    The pramfaces make it their business never to apply for any type of work .

    Thus the only segment of the baby population would be limited to the semi feral clockwork orange type unemployables who will eventually come and kill us in our semi detached whilst we are asleep.

    I. May have to tweak the above policy. Somewhat …

  51. 51
    You'll talk at yourself long beyond everyone else has slit their throats says:

    “It opens up a huge subject which I will sidestep for now.”


  52. 52
    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    Most elegantly put .

  53. 53
    8 days and counting says:

    Here is some detail on maternity leave:


    Only if the dismissal can be shown to be unfair due to it being grounded on her being due to her being on maternity leave is there any case.

    A major corporate restructuring such as abolishing positions like this would not count, unless HR have screwed up and it can be proved it was only for that reason.

    PR wise this does not look great, but that should not be too much of a consideration as the company is in trouble financially.

    Maternity leave does not guarantee your position.

    Time whilst on maternity leave does count towards redundancy pay calculation.

    An employer cannot dismiss a woman who is on maternity leave on those grounds, and can only demand that the woman works up to 10 days during the maternity leave time. Pay can be adjusted to the statutory maternity leave pay as detailed.

    Women are still required to be off work for 2 weeks following giving birth.

    The last set of changes spoken about by Clegg late last year were to make maternity opt in and such that the parents could share the remaining time entitlement.

  54. 54
    You'll talk at yourself long beyond everyone else has slit their throats says:

    Nobody reads this shite.

  55. 55
    Learn to Count with Ed Balls says:

    That’s almost eleventeen.

  56. 56
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Doesn’t David Miliband get his by mail order from the US?

  57. 57
    Casual Observer says:

    I would probably not recommend to you a career in the DWP.

  58. 58
    Labour ruined Britain (and now it's ConDem'd) says:

    650 MPs should not be returning to Parliament after the next election because the British public said they were a bunch of useless twunks.

    With the exception of Bill, below.

  59. 59
    Casual Observer says:

    Are you suggesting that Anus Bridger is the father ?

  60. 60
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    You’d figure that somewhere along the line she’s made the acquaintance of a brief or two who might be able to steer her in the right direction with respect to contesting possibly unlawful firings, if this could be considered one. Might not be the smartest move to let your legal correspondent go under such circumstances, unless you first buy them off. Of course, we don’t know if she has a severance package which may contain here’s-a-bob-shut-yer-gob provisions that more than offset any relief she could obtain administratively. And we probably won’t find out, either, now will we?

  61. 61
    You'll talk at yourself long beyond everyone else having slit theirown throats says:

    Hmm. That moniker reads rather easier to the brain.

  62. 62
    You'll talk at yourself long beyond everyone else having slit their own throats says:


  63. 63
    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    Wasn’t ross taylor the bloke who fronted the early version of. Crimestoppers in the. 1960’s

    Or was that. SHAW. Taylor. ???

  64. 64
    Anonymous says:

    Most of New Zealand…he plays cricket for them

  65. 65
    Private Eye Spy says:

    We do.

  66. 66
    Diane's Bathroom Scales says:

    One at a time, please!

  67. 67
    @ Ros Wotsisname says:

  68. 68
    The savant 10.4 highway patrol says:

    What about. Gender. Re Assignment for pre op transexuals on the National. Stealth ?

    Wasn’t. Much call for that during WW 2. When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank .

    People then seemed to have other priorities —- like staying alive till next morning .

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    Labour ruined Britain (and now it's ConDem'd) says:

    I have this very afternoon made my first (and more than likely, last) ever visit to an Aldí ‘supermarket’ (mainly out of curiosity), and I have two points to note.

    1. “Oh my fecking dear Lord above, I thought the mutants who shop at Asdá were bad”


    2. For the sake of our nation, you need to tweak your policy pretty fecking quickly.

  71. 71
    Elsie Beattie (83 and a quarter) says:

    I must just say, it’s lovely to see Moon the Loon and Derek Smalls finally back in the same studio together, dear.
    Have they produced a new long-player, then?

  72. 72

    I would challenge that on the basis that Mr. T. Tit did not specify whom but merely mentioned some random person (if I interpret the expression twunt correctly.)

    In fact, some random person may have been exactly the cause of these semi-progeny.

  73. 73

    Most obliged Mr 8 days and counting. It may grieve you to learn that I am not considering, nor have I ever been pregnant myself. My involvement in such states could probably, if awkwardly, be described as at arms’ length.

    My point was more based on the ways that poorly made law can change people’s preferences. I have never relied on such dubious advantages in my avid attempts to prolong the continuation of the human race.

  74. 74

    May I take it, good sir, that in your firm you don’t put the Carthorse behind the cart, whether it be edible or not?

  75. 75
    John from Hull says:

    Which are you suggesting might be edible ?

  76. 76
    Something in their waters says:

    In my experience it’s always, but always, women who opt for maternity leave.

  77. 77
    You got me bang to rights guv says:

    Or rozzer taylor?

  78. 78
    Anonymous says:

    Crying laughing

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    A lawyer I be not says:

    Is it not illegal for a company to sack/make redundant someone on maternity leave?

    Doubly hypocritical for a lefty rag to do this.

  80. 80
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    Fancy a lefty rag like that, full of swivel eyed pro-Euro loons being so non-touchy feely.

  81. 81
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    I would think a damn sight more than read the Guardian.

  82. 82
    Grrr says:

    Oh no!

    Who’s going to write ‘How to get tax payers to pay for people to sue tax payers on the tax payers’ back making the Left rich – articles.

    I am angry.

    I don’t want my taxes going to the military, transport or filling in pot holes.

    I want my taxes to go to another 10,000 human rights laywers who can sue me.

    God forbid an immigrant with two wives is not given two houses for free – who will sue the tax payer to pay for this.

    Fight the evil Tory cuts.

  83. 83
    Grrr says:

    Or in the Winin’s Feminist People’s Collective Community Housing Project – funded by islington council and the EU twinned with Ramalla.

  84. 84
    keredybretsa says:

    A human capital casualty. But as the lady was law editor, one assumes, that she knows her way round the scene, to wangle a penny or two from these wealthy band of lefties.

  85. 85
    jolly hockeysticks says:

    Your parody of a Tory Boy doing an impersonation of a Leftie is spot on!

  86. 86
    NE Frontiersman says:

    What’s the old saying? ‘Never work for a liberal editor: they’ll sack you on Christmas Eve’. Good to see these old traditions carried on.

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    NE Frontiersman says:

    Sorry 36, 86 here: should have scrolled down further before commenting!

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    Judge Joe Dredd. says:

    It is these days. The problem she has now is that she’s no longer a Woman on Maternity Leave, she’s a Woman on the Dole. On the plus side, no longer being the Guardian’s Woman on Maternity Leave means people will she her as less of a twat.

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    Judge Joe Dredd. says:

    Obviously, that should have read, SEE her as less of a twat. That’ll teach me for buying a keyboard off Ed Miliband.

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    JohnM says:

    “It is unlawful to dismiss (or single out for redundancy) a pregnant employee for reasons connected with her pregnancy. Such treatment will constitute grounds for automatic Unfair Dismissal and/or Sex Discrimination. At the end of the maternity leave period she is entitled to resume her normal job on the same terms and conditions as if she had not been absent. If however, a redundancy situation has arisen during her Ordinary or Additional Maternity Leave, or##### if there is some other genuine reason why her original job is no longer available at the end of her Additional Maternity Leave, she must be offered any suitable alternative work that is available at the point when she wants to return#####”

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    Socialism = Starvation says:

    Regulation 10 of the Maternity and Parental Leave Regulations 1999 provides that a redundant women on maternity leave has the right to be offered a suitable alternative vacancy ahead of other candidates:


    So she might pop up elsewhere if that is applied, but vacancies may be thin on the ground.

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