February 20th, 2013

Ed and Dave’s Sikh Chic


286 Comments

  1. 1
    WVM says:

    What a wanker!

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  2. 2
    Kevin says:

    Ed Miliband wins the all-party “dress like a pirate” contest.

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  3. 3
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m 62
    Time for a pooh!

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  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Kinnock was put inside a lightbulb. Dave’s inserted himself inside a Durex.

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      T'Old Fella says:

      That look Dave has is he looking up at the Golden Temple and thinking to him self, all that gold, oh it looks so lovely, I wonder if they will give some to me

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  5. 4
    Kebab Time says:

    But neither look as ridiculous as Gordon in helicopter or on the buggy with Bush.

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    Baza says:

    Dave’s looking more like Captain Pugwash, every day

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      Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

      Presumably Osborne is introduced as Roger the cabin boy?

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        T'Old Fella says:

        There is the right wing blogger called Pau£ $taines, who is the cox(swain), who is Pugwash, I cannot remember any other character, I think those who dreamed that series were gayboys the way they named their characters. Come on Motty Botty finger out

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  7. 8
    Point of Information says:

    Is Miliwatt channelling Clegg ?

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  8. 9
    Try the veal biriyani says:

    “there’s a touch of Berlusconi”

    Bangra bangra?

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  9. 10
    Mental Brown Still Not Beat says:

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  10. 12
    Welsh activist. says:

    I’m a nonentity, get me out of here.

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  11. 14

    Are they members of The Orange Institution or simply currying favour?

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    • 25
      Pathetic Attempt at a Joke Watch says:

      Direct hit

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      • 74

        Consistently have I always said here, and you may check back through the records, that the only thing I know for sure is that I know nothing.

        There is this nagging feeling that someone may have uttered similar sentiments before.

        How wonderful it must be to be as clever as you. Beyond the reach of all possible doubt. Every sentiment that falls from your metaphorical lips being a testament to your intellect, erudition and ready wit. A fantastic success in life, as you surely must be.

        Unfortunately, for we more dullard types, that can only remain a pipe dream.

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        • 101
          Blowing Whistles says:

          It wasn’t me SC – just in case you have been having thoughts that it might be.

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          • Bert says:

            Has somebody farted?

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          • I knew that BW.

            We agree on political direction but often differ on means. Within that we can become quite rude to each other but we can also be civil. Each of us recognises and posts where we actually agree and neither of us feels that we lose face by admitting when that happens.

            This sort of stuff is of a different order altogether. It is pathological. Very sad and incredibly obsessive. Many have remarked upon it both on and off this blog.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Thanks for that SC – I dare say not one lying scumbag of an MP in Parliament could stand up against either of us ‘scrutinising’ their daily rhetorical bull5hit and spin?

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          • Would like to think you are right here, BW, but my lack of faith in human nature, where politics is concerned, gives me cause for doubt.

            When you knew me less better, I think you felt I might be mentioning names solely to support my argument on the basis that if X says that, then it must be right. Hopefully you will now know that what is said has to be right in my mind. I say that to underline something which happened last week.

            I had a protracted email correspondence, completely by chance, with a former cabinet minister. I had met him about 17 years ago but this time took him to task for how his party had lost touch with their voters. I did not pull any punches but did keep it polite. He was quite crestfallen when I told him I would probably vote UKIP at the next election. I think he is still a decent man in a stinkingly corrupt system.

            It did not seem appropriate to bandy this about here so I kept it under my hat. I shall not release his identity but were I to have any direct evidence of any corruption from any of them I would shout very loudly. Because of my circumstances that is frankly unlikely to occur.

            The point is that another MP has his mind concentrated upon the fact that even their most loyal of supporters are turning upon them. To that extent I am pleased with the tiny part I was able to play. Had I lost my temper, I would only have diminished my message.

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    • 34
      Just practicing for the next policy campaign says:

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      • 60
        Hang The B@stards says:

        Just shove the RPG up yer ass…. I’d watch that on Youtube everyday.

        Nowt better than a fanatical raghead taking themselves of this planet.

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    • 36
      Tay King-dePisse says:

      I always was one for Sikh humour, Cat…

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      • 66

        Mughal meets Mongol?

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          Tay King-dePisse says:

          I was thinking more like, “Dave/Ed, puttin’ on the (Am)Ritz(ar),” myself.
          Might be a stretch, for a bad pun that no-one but old Raj and South Asian types (or fans of Winston Churchill’s favourite songwriter, Mr Berlin) would get, anyway.

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          • You are more adept at this sort of thing than I. Do you mean the Neru you get, the Fatehabad it is. I need some Luck now.

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          • Tay King-dePisse says:

            Ah! Dear Mother India!

            Who can take tomorrow,
            Dip it in a dream–
            Separate the sorrow
            And collect up all the cream?
            The Gandhi Man can!

            (Or HE thought so, anyway– maybe he was too much of a Wonk to be successful; maybe in the Depps of his soul, he knew differently, but he let his Wilder Genes take over…)

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          • Hmm. I thought he slept with a young girl in order to prove to himself that he could resist temptation and then became ashamed when he got an erection.

            One wonders what the girl thought about it? (For the avoidance of doubt, I am not referring to her opinion of the woody. Tsk. Tsk.)

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    • 111
      Blowing Whistles says:

      None of the commentors of the old boy brigade have said it – so I will

      There appears to be political chicanery going on with camoron’s visit to the Sikh’s.

      Is he trying to curry favour with Eastleigh’s large Sikh community – if so I hope it backfires on him and Redneck Ed.

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    Punkawallah says:

    You have to wear a head-scarf to get in the Golden Temple.

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  13. 18
    The tit in no. 10 says:

    I’ve got to hide my bald patch any way I can.

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  14. 19
    Synic says:

    Once a tosser, always a tosser.

    Does he also drink 12 pints a night like Vague?

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  15. 21
    Casual Observer says:

    Is this Dave’s Ravi Shankar moment ?

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      The wizz says:

      Why has Red ED got a large ‘D’ on his turban? Is this the Islamic equivalent to the pointy hat that children had to don in Victorian Times, meaning ‘Dunce’?

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      • 206
        Your Friendly Neighbourhood Symbology Service says:

        It is Ed demonstrating his love of the American national pastime of baseball, by wearing the cap logo of the Phoenix team, the Arizona Diamondbacks:

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  16. 23
    Red Egg Millitit.....National Socialist. says:

    Kowtowing in all but name……… f*ck ‘em :)

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  17. 26
    Brown out and pay me damages. says:

    Not a good look.

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    I don't want to share a fart with the socialist, meddling, scrounging scum in edinburgh junkie shitty says:

    Are sending money to India for its space projects?

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  19. 31
    Yo' Momma So Stupid, She says:

    Dem two white boys be wearin’ doo-rags now?
    Why dey gotta wear ‘em in the Dot neighbourhood, and dey nevuh be wearin’ ‘em ‘roun’ heah?
    Dem jive-ass fool MF’ers!

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  20. 32
    Hang The B@stards says:

    GOT ME HOPES UP THERE….

    For one minute I thought the Tabliban had captured the two useless Hunts and dressed them up just before beheading them.

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  21. 35
    Time for Edinburgh scrounging scum to get out of my life. They are as inspiring as dog crap on my shoe. says:

    We are all kissing India’s arse

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    • 38
      Lol says:

      Has Camoron got any teeth?

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    • 45
      No steps forward 100 steps back says:

      That’s all these politician’s do, is to kiss the arse of country who have bought into this country this year, the brown stain on these politician’s tongues must be permanent by now, gives them something to do, brownnosing and calling the British nasty names because of things happening a 100 years ago and keeps them from actually doing damage to the country.

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    • 64
      Mr Quelch says:

      Cameron has said sorry for the Amritsar Massacre are they (our Indian friends) going to own up for The Black Hole of Calcutta when 123 of our people met a ghastly end.
      Talking of ghastly ends – that hat !! – ‘er indoors had a choking fit .

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    It's ok when we do it says:

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  23. 42
    Gordon Brown says:

    Now don’t say that I didn’t warn you.

    And there’s more to come folks.

    GOLD 1,570.50 -33.70 -2.10%

    Unbelievable !!!!!!

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    Owin Jones says:

    Rumours that Tory candidate in Eastleigh is not doing bbc 5 live debate tomorrow remarkable – clear the Tories now want to keep her hidden.

    Get in there John O’Farrell.

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    • 52
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      Indeed let’s hear more from O’Farrell’s hate policies and why he wishes people to die painful deaths. That’ll do labour laodsagood. Not!

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    • 61
      Maqboul says:

      Give the Fenian fucker enough rope……….

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    • 176
      Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

      Too late to hide her. The LibDems have this one sewn up. The best odds available on a LD win have shortened from 4-6 to 3-10 in just 3 days. And the bookies are never that wrong.

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    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    Politicians are great entertainment but neither of them beat that photo of gordon in afghanistan in the funny helmet. Sorry haven’t got a link.

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  26. 56
    Just Sayin' says:

    Anyone remember what a money spinner the Olympics were meant to be ?

    Just sayin’…

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  27. 57
    RetardEd says:

    I’m glad that I finally persuaded Dave to join the Trekkie community.

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    Brigadier-General John Nicholsons' whip says:

    I would have thrashed those johnnies within an inch of their lives for the black hole of Calcutta rather than kowtow like that chinless, traitorous, gutless, slimeball Cameron.

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    Voting Floater says:

    Ed and Dave look stupid, but Justine and Sam just look ridiculous.

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  30. 67
    Calamity Clegg says:

    Shut it, beeyatch….

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    Pastafarian Pete says:

    You can’t get a Sikh to even wear a fecking motorbike helment, what the feck are these two whitey twats doing wearing their pagan nonsense?

    Never trust a religion that makes you wear a funny hat or do something silly with your head or facial hair.

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      Rabbi Chaim Gunnar Kutsher-Dickov says:

      Nu? So now you got something against yarmulkes and payot?
      Oy gevalt! So now you think we’re like ganja-smoking Schwarzers, or knife-wielding Indischers? Have YOU got things all verkockte! Thank G*d not all Goyim are as prejudiced as you!

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      • 113
        Smeghead says:

        Smoke me a Kippah I’ll be back for breakfast.

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      • 172
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Any news on that Rabbi who was covering up child abuse in London and Salford? Have the police finally started to investigate the crimes?

        I’ll Kutcher duplicitousness and double dealing off – Khunt.

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    The Loony Left says:

    PLONKER ALERT

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      (I don't need no doctor) says:

      That O’Farrell, what a whiz. Ed Miliband watch your back.

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    • 88
      Casual Observer says:

      That O’Farrell. He isn’t just a comedian, he’s also a c’unt. No one trick pony is he.

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    • 115
      Camus says:

      I don’t believe an IRA man speaks French. Nazi-style German maybe, but not French.

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    • 138
      Anonymous says:

      So what’s French for f-off and die you anti-english bastard then?

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    • 147
      Woops a daisy, ooh err, misses, no don't says:

      You see this is just how a real politician should behave: gravitas and serious minded, forwarding the lot of ordinary folk with sound argument and sensible discussion.

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    • 191
      Fishy says:

      Ha ha ha, ho ho ho, he he he.

      Très funny that (see what I did there, wanker O’Farrell?). Almost as funny as Sandi Toksvig and the News Quiz crowd.

      Must go, I’m going to piss myself laughing…off to the bathroom, but I’ll get out quickly just in case you’ve left a bomb in there!

      Ho ho ho. So funny.

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      I wonder if O’Farrell is getting tips from Martin Bell that other marxist commie put up job of Alistaire Campbells. Commie Marxists are Commie Marxists be they English, Welsh Scottish or Irish – They’re all still fucking bastard Marxist Commies.

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    • 278
      Dave says:

      French compulsory? Wait long enough and it will be.(Only joking, it’ll probably be Urdu or Polish).

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    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    So now Channel 4 News are against people that have had a good education, re Matt Frei’s interview with Mumford and Sons, this evening.
    Just what is C4 News problem. The team are arrogant, hypocritical, loud mouthed and very rude.
    So Dan Snow got where he is on ability alone, nothing to do with family connections.

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      Long live nepotism in British TV says:

      LOL

      Dan Snow is married to the daughter of the richest Englishman of his time

      The last Duke of Westminster…

      And he is also part of the hereditary UK TV broadcasting mafia that feeds the Briitish people such sh*t from morning to nite…Worthy of Kim il Uno of North Korean fame…

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    • 149
      Labourunionsbbc we are one under the EU says:

      Like the BBC news C4 news is now unwatchable. Only RT has anything at all about how we live in the UK now.

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    • 174
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Clocked that very good woman on her history – calling the proper shot on Cameron tonight – called him “fork-tongued”. Loved it.

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    Sir William Wade says:

    Guru Dev on the right?

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  35. 83
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Why is it that we seem to be the only Country going that has to apologise for things that happened in the past?

    Any chance the Italians might say sorry for wiping out Boudica and her clans? Of Merkel say sorry for bombing London, Coventry and many other cities flat?

    I notice the BBC are making a big thing of this but looking back the BBC said little about the one eyes idiot NOT saying sorry.

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  36. 86
    Owin Jones says:

    GAY AND PROUD. OMG I didn’t know these celebrities were even gay. Even number 2? wow o_o http://pic-twittr.info/WUWh1L#sP

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    • 89
      Owin Jokes says:

      Number 2s is a wow for all gays.

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        Anyone hear the debate ? says:

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        • 98
          Muscule Mary says:

          Yes dear whatever you say, now get back to Ed’s cock there’s a good little Labour troll.

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        • 103
          Operation Crossbow says:

          Get a job you idle lazy twat. I mean a REAL job.

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        • 105
          Fishy says:

          Whenever someone disagrees with him, Jones accuses them of patronising him…his way of closing down an argument.

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        • 109
          Owned Jones says:

          That’s an ad hominem attack. Could it be a form of homophobia ?

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          • Lord Mandy of Guacamole says:

            Knuckle dragging must be homophobic I would say

            Just as any reference to my gerbils or replacement anuses…

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          Casual Observer says:

          He is a nasty little piece of work.

          Anyone notice that you only ever hear him talking about a narrow set of non-problems and never solutions ? It would be interesting to hear his ideas on how to fix some of the real issues which are going on.

          If he does get to start his revolution, he will likely be first up against the wall when his followers figure out what he’s really been up to.

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          • Owen PalsyMouth says:

            It would be interesting to hear his ideas on how to fix some of the real issues which are going on.

            Why, money of course! Lots and lots of taxpayers money, and lots of lovely jobs for special left-wing people like me ‘working’ in the special public sector.

            Just don’t ask for any observable improvement, OK? If it all turns to shit it just proves we needed even more taxpayers money.

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          • Cerebral Jonesy says:

            It would be good to get that on the record.

            At the moment he is doing an !cke with his rhetoric. All problem, trying to get a reaction, no solutions.

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    Pedant says:

    Ah…the Palace Eunuch in Ali Baba and The Forty Thieves Panto

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    • 93
      The Last Englishman says:

      Two Interchangeable Palace Eunuchs for the price of one…OMG

      Britain has never seen two such gormless pericks…

      What did we do to deserve this?

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    • 125
      QC magazine features girl says:

      They should both be on the front page of QC magazine

      The best dressed and most desirable men in Britain 2013…

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    One term tit call me Dave says:

    We need more Indians!

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    A connaisseur says:

    These two prunes look like capons just before they are roasted

    Or just before they are offered as brides to some rich shirt lifter…

    Depending on your taste…

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    Paxo is a brave man says:

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    Fishy says:

    Lefty response to the Mansion Tax proposals:

    ‘Tax the rich till they hurt, they have loadsofmoney and get it off them.’

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    • 121
      Joss Ayinglike says:

      A claim for equality of material position can be met only be a government with totalitarian powers. F. von Hayek.

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    • 134

      Good luck with that.

      Many who are far, far better than they have tried that. And failed.

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      CarryHole is a stupendous Hunt says:

      Adam Smith’s response.

      Ground-rents are a still more proper subject of taxation than the rent of houses. A tax upon ground-rents would not raise the rents of houses. It would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent, who acts always as a monopolist, and exacts the greatest rent which can be got for the use of his ground. More or less can be got for it according as the competitors happen to be richer or poorer, or can afford to gratify their fancy for a particular spot of ground at a greater or smaller expense. In every country the greatest number of rich competitors is in the capital, and it is there accordingly that the highest ground-rents are always to be found. As the wealth of those competitors would in no respect be increased by a tax upon ground-rents, they would not probably be disposed to pay more for the use of the ground. Whether the tax was to be advanced by the inhabitant, or by the owner of the ground, would be of little importance. The more the inhabitant was obliged to pay for the tax, the less he would incline to pay for the ground; so that the final payment of the tax would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent.

      — Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations, Book V, Chapter 2, Article I: Taxes upon the Rent of Houses

      i.e. tax the land not the house.

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    Sikh of the lying liblabcon kuntz says:

    Pity those scarves aint hanging around their necks.

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    Just asking says:

    Are Sikhs circumcised by any chance?

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      Point of Information says:

      Strictly prohibited.

      Sikhs are not super bright though but do make very good warriors. They are perfect for body guard duties, but need to be respected as !ndira Ghand! learned the hard way.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    ableman – does not want to mention the fat pension he gets from his years in the oil business – why’s that Cableman – why is he beaving like a FOX is there a RAY of sunshine who holds cableman in check???

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    anon. says:

    Huff Poo at it again. Did they have to use all those stock photographs ?

    Academic Urges Nurses To Combat Sexy Stereotypes With Own YouTube Videos (PICTURES)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/20/academic-urges-nurses-combat-sexy-stereotypes-youtube_n_2723054.html#slide=2126872

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  46. 137
    gildedtumbril says:

    What a pair of burkhas. They really are the bottom of a very deep barrel of crap.
    The absolute scrapings.

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    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    What a pair of tw*ts.

    Anyone imagine the senior Sikh taking the turban off???

    No – because he has principles unlike Militwit and iDave

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      old SHEP says:

      LOL, that’s all our lot are fit for, a bit of fancy dress, think Dave enjoyed it, give him a pair of high heels and a Carmen Miranda hat next time.

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    tell you what says:

    how about swapping Slough for Kashmir ?

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    gordon brown says:

    anyone fancy a game of hindu sikh?

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  51. 168
    Ed Miliband says:

    Hello everyone. I just popped in to tell you all that I’m a complete and utter twat.

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    Saffron says:

    Do all of you barring the usual assholes who keep appearing on this blog not think that we are seeing a couple of utter tossers according to the photo’s making absolute dickheads of themselves.
    What happened in the past is in the past,in fact I would presume that we should now be talking about what is going to happen in the future.
    Has history taught us anything that has made us change our ways,well apparently not.
    The first lesson history should teach us is that it is not people who want to fight wars and that it is power crazy individuals who in their craving for control want to fight such wars.
    Politics to me has always been about powerful people who when they cannot achieve their objectives will resort to force to achieve it.
    When we see these sort of people who are in the form of Cammorontosser and his mate birdshit ed sucking up to the indians were a majority of their people are living on jack shit,then it does make you wonder as to what this world is all about.
    Yes people this world is all about unequality and I cannot see this changing.
    All those years ago a certain Mr Cromwell told the house of commons/the people that in todays lingo you are not fit for purpose and you are not serving the people as you should.
    IMHO he was correct,from his days have we cottened on,well no we have not,is this land now better,well no it is not.
    A peaceful night to you all and I hope that tomorrow brings better news,nite nite to you all.

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      Ol' Crummy says:

      “Jugglers, whoremasters, dr*unkards and swindlers”– it did have a more poetic ring to it, than that which ye are likely to declaim today. Having so few vices allowed to us, ’twas bombast such as this, in which we Puritans had to content ourselves to delight.

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      VulgarDisplayOfPower says:

      Ah, that nice warty Mr Cromwell. My first wife’s cousin’s brother’s uncle knew him – and liked him well! He worked for the Guardian though, and wasn’t Irish, so that might explain it.

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    • 241
      Cameron the goldfish says:

      Could you rep…..
      Did you say something ?

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    • 259
      Quantrill says:

      +IM

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  53. 175
    tell you what says:

    Vasoline on radio 5

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  54. 181
    Justice by thickos ?? says:

    Simple question which has not been revealed.

    What was the ethnic make up of the jury??

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    • 184
      PC Dave, your caring P.M. says:

      And did it have the requisite proportions of BLTGs ?

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    • 213
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Good point – the sketch writers drawings shown on CH4 news indicate a darker proportion.

      So one then naturally must ask about how jury selection is really conducted in the court system – are there checks on the intellect / political persuasions of jurors? Are they required to have [they bloody well should] sufficient maturity and knowledge of English and English grammar – or are the ‘administrators’ playing a game – such that the wigs might now be springing up to call for no more jury trials? This juror debacle and its ‘timing’ seems rather strange or should I say ‘staged’ – perhaps with a hidden agenda by the whole of the legal fraternity in cahoots of course with the ‘expert legal’ hacks like joshua roseyboy?

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        from nao:

        In 2007, the Crown Court received 136,000 criminal cases, including the most serious cases such as murder and rape. The Crown Court sits in almost 100 locations in England and Wales. HM Courts Service calculates that in 2007-08 the cost of operating the Crown Court was around £382 million.

        Not all cases will involve a jury but probably more than half will – maybe 70,000 in this year. The average trial lasts for 1½ days so, if a jury is called for the normal two weeks, it may see six or more cases or, as here, just one which went into a second week.

        Mr Justice Sweeney said he had never come across this at this stage, never. The jury had shown absolutely fundamental deficits in understanding. Prosecuting Counsel, Andrew Edis QC said This is not jury misconduct, this is not irregularity, this is a jury which has not, it appears, understood its function. Interesting words.

        I am sure there are those in the legal profession and those in politics who would like to do away with juries but the words of these two men do not appear to play to that point, regardless of whether, within their roles, they are good, bad or average.

        So to set this one case against the other 70,000 odd makes the situation even more extraordinary. I have sat on a jury myself and find this totally unlike my experience of the people who were serving with me. I myself passed a note to the judge which was put to a witness directly from the bench. I did this because I felt the prosecution examination had missed an important point.

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          Rumpole says:

          I am indebted to the learned judge, that he gave it as his opinion, that the jury in the Pryce case, were as thick as ***t.

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      • 229

        frоm nао:

        Іn 2007, thе Crоwn Cоurt rеcеіvеd 136,000 crіmіnаl cаsеs, іncludіng thе mоst sеrіоus cаsеs such аs murdеr аnd rаpе. Thе Crоwn Cоurt sіts іn аlmоst 100 lоcаtіоns іn Еnglаnd аnd Wаlеs. HM Cоurts Sеrvіcе cаlculаtеs thаt іn 2007-08 thе cоst оf оpеrаtіng thе Crоwn Cоurt wаs аrоund £382 mіllіоn.

        Nоt аll cаsеs wіll іnvоlvе а jury but prоbаbly mоrе thаn hаlf wіll – mаybе 70,000 іn thіs yеаr. Thе аvеrаgе trіаl lаsts fоr 1½ dаys sо, іf а jury іs cаllеd fоr thе nоrmаl twо wееks, іt mаy sее sіx оr mоrе cаsеs оr, аs hеrе, just оnе whіch wеnt іntо а sеcоnd wееk.

        Mr Justіcе Swееnеy sаіd hе hаd nеvеr cоmе аcrоss thіs аt thіs stаgе, nеvеr. Thе jury hаd shоwn аbsоlutеly fundаmеntаl dеfіcіts іn undеrstаndіng. Prоsеcutіng Cоunsеl, Аndrеw Еdіs QC sаіd Thіs іs nоt jury mіscоnduct, thіs іs nоt іrrеgulаrіty, thіs іs а jury whіch hаs nоt, іt аppеаrs, undеrstооd іts functіоn. Іntеrеstіng wоrds.

        І аm surе thеrе аrе thоsе іn thе lеgаl prоfеssіоn аnd thоsе іn pоlіtіcs whо wоuld lіkе tо dо аwаy wіth jurіеs but thе wоrds оf thеsе twо mеn dо nоt аppеаr tо plаy tо thаt pоіnt, rеgаrdlеss оf whеthеr, wіthіn thеіr rоlеs, thеy аrе gооd, bаd оr аvеrаgе.

        Sо tо sеt thіs оnе cаsе аgаіnst thе оthеr 70,000 оdd mаkеs thе sіtuаtіоn еvеn mоrе еxtrаоrdіnаry. І hаvе sаt оn а jury mysеlf аnd fіnd thіs tоtаlly unlіkе my еxpеrіеncе оf thе pеоplе whо wеrе sеrvіng wіth mе. І mysеlf pаssеd а nоtе tо thе judgе whіch wаs put tо а wіtnеss dіrеctly frоm thе bеnch. І dіd thіs bеcаusе І fеlt thе prоsеcutіоn еxаmіnаtіоn hаd mіssеd аn іmpоrtаnt pоіnt.

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    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Imagine Manmohan Singh visiting England and we ask him to take the turban off and wear – oh I don’t know – a topper or tam’o’shanter

    It’s just fucking embarrassing Dave you useless soft-arsed twunt.

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  56. 197
    Calamity Clegg says:

    I’m off on a little holiday jaunt now. Oh, do vote LibDem in the Eastleigh by-election, won’t you ??

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    Fishy says:

    On LBC today, Chief Yellow (agreement breaker and EU trougher), Cleggy tells a pensioner who would not be able to afford the Mansion Tax, to SELL UP and move. He obviously thinks that property is theft.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9883344/Nick-Clegg-Elderly-should-sell-homes-or-pay-mansion-tax.html

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      All MPs are subhuman filth says:

      Nick Clegg just needs shooting.

      You pay double income tax (at least) on the money you earned to buy your house, you paid tax when you bought it, you paid council tax every fecking year, you paid tax on the insurance to insure the house, you paid tax on every fecking improvement you made to the house, you paid tax to heat the house, you pay tax when you sell the house.

      But that’s still not enough for multimillionaire Clegg. That useless c*nt wants even more tax. Of all the MPs who deserve to die a slow and painful death, after watching their children die, Clegg’s at the top of the list, with Militwit not that far behind.

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        Casual Observer says:

        What they really want is the housing bubble to correct.

        Or in the case of pensioners, those who have property with no mortgage to dump it on to the market so as there is some availability for first time buyers.

        The ‘mansion tax’ will not happen as the backlash will likely get violent. This is just loony policy which is trying to distract from UK tax receipts falling through the floor and government looking to shore it up.

        Those on variable rate mortgages will get creamed soon when the bond market collapses.

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          One day you will get the blame says:

          So where do pensioners go when they dump there no mortgage house on the market, join the Liverpool highway death trail or go to Stafford hospital and join their death trail, if a pensioner has a house and sells it all well and good but they must still have somewhere to live.

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          • Fishy says:

            It’s time for the gloves to come off, Cameron to take on the Yellows and Milipede. I know there are a lot of Kippers on here but they are a distraction.

            The Liberals and the left are undermining everything that a civilised society should stand for. You are right about tax upon tax upon tax, and effectively a confiscation of property and earnings which is the only thing that they know.

            Look at the lies that Fat Jackie Smith spouted on the Sky paper review tonight, bragging that Brown paid off our debt with the money he raised from 3G and how we were better placed for the crash. F,ucking lies – every word.

            This is a fight against Marxism, pure and simple.

            It’s time for us to fight back, use the BBC’s phone in to disrupt their Marxist manipulation, disrupt the Toynbees and the Joneses dominance of the media. Speak up for the ordinary man.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            Agreed. But the problem is that Cameron is not part of the Conservative bit of the Tory party.

            That is why the UKIP support is there.

            Cameron is part of the problem, not the solution.

            The Conservative party is part of the solution, but not the bit which is in power at present.

            UKIP represent the stick to get some normalcy back in to play and are part of the solution.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            ‘with respect, the pensioners are going to die soon so they are not too important.

            Better to ensure they can pass wealth to their children and treat them humanely whilst they are still alive.

            If they sell their home they will get 100% of the sale and can move in somewhere cheaper. With their children would be the normal pattern, but since family has been all but destroyed in UK that simple solution seems to be beyond the wit of most to conclude.

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          • Not quite being of pensionable age, I must remind you CO that people regularly live to an age which is as much as four decades after their retirement. That is the equivalent of a working life.

            Clearly this has ramifications for modern living with many understandably preferring not to have their elderly relatives living with them. It depends on how things like health hold up. My father lived to be 97 and still walked unaided to the bakery every day to get the bread, almost to the end.

            There are also issues where one wants on the one hand to encourage the children but not to make it so easy that they do not strive. Whilst being entitled to it, they should not take the inherited wealth for granted.

            Finally, none of us knows how long we have to live or how our own health will bear up. That creates another layer of complexity.

            Increasingly, the state is wrapping its greedy tentacles around others’ wealth to fund its own conceits.

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          • Casual Observer says:

            The living to four decades beyond retirement age is a problem under the current arrangements which has been recognized. The retirement age was originally set when the average life spans beyond retirement age were thought to be much less than they are now. A major error for the relevant government departments in many countries, including the UK.

            Pensioners, if they are to be funded by the state, require an increased funding base if their numbers and longevity are increasing. This of course is an unsustainable pyramid scheme affected by demographics.

            When it is understood that birth rates in developed nations have gone down and globally population is now not growing as fast as it previously was the funding problem becomes obvious. Especially over the next 20 to 40 years. It started about 5 years ago in the UK.

            So far the following has been tried as solution:

            i) Push pensioners into private pension schemes to relieve pressure on the state.

            ii) Encourage home ownership so as pensioners have an asset which can be liquidated in order to relieve pressure on the state.

            iii) Increase age of retirement so as the states time obligations to pensioners are reduced.

            iv) Reduce life span by offering palliative care and assisted suicide routes / care pathways knowingly or otherwise to relieve pressure on the state.

            v) Raid existing pensions via a tax in order to cover immediate obligations. (Another Brown masterstroke…)

            vi) Wealth transfer between generations from younger to older via house price inflation.

            And so on. This is all moving the deckchairs and ultimately failing to solve the real problem, whilst storing obscure and lethal problems for the younger generations.

            Families are the logical structure for taking care of elderly parents. The extended structures (now being dismantled) in countries such as !ndia / Spa!n are case in point.

            The state cannot deal with this problem and should realize this by now. Moving into a position of agent of last resort wrt. welfare is the logical solution, devolving responsibility back to where it should be.

            The catch-22 in that idea you can evident since the family unit is being destroyed.

            You point out about the issues of modern living: The amoral implications of that are one aspect of the problem. It is unbelievably amoral, unless there are good reasons such as a history of abuse, for children not to wish having their parents living with them, and wholly self destructive for the parents in the opposite case.

            The new attempt to fix the funding shortfall though appears to be the following:

            a) Tax majority of wealth which would otherwise pass from parent to children. (Inheritance tax changes)

            b) Perform a tax grab on the primary asset of pensioners and others. (Mansion tax).

            This of course would only cover things temporarily and introduce much bigger problems for the next generation as wealth transfer fails. There are many other implications as well, which if the state is involved lead you back to care pathways, etc.

            The real problem is that if the path we are on is followed to its conclusion the right to a long life may next be in the frame. This and other rather abhorrent solutions can be fixed by decoupling the state from this issue.

            The current status quo needs to change. There is no right or guarantee to a comfortable retirement, that was simply a propaganda which is used to coerce people to stay in occupations which are of benefit to others.

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        No steps forward 100 steps back says:

        One day the braindead will figure out how many times something they buy is taxed and get very annoyed with these tosspot politicians, time to pay performance payments only to politicians, great taxpayer savings can be made .

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        • 263
          Quantrill says:

          If benefit payments are breadline, which most are, despite the DM and its supporters, so that it has to be spent more or less as received, then it will take 6 to 8 weeks for the government to get the whole amount back via indirect taxation.

          How come no one ever seems to have realised this?

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    hand standing panda says:

    it’s clear we can’t trust any other fucker, if they don’t want to kill us they want to steal from us. Let us build a self sufficient society that will last a thousand years and fuck the rest.

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  59. 204
    Trigger says:

    ”Look Mum” Mehatma Isdandy!

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  60. 214
    Gone from Waltmstow. says:

    This country is fucked, a bloody shame as I loved it as a kid.

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    • 216
      David "the pink oboe player" Cameron says:

      I’m afraid it’s been taken over by the pink oboe players…thanks to me!

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      • 223
        hilliam wague says:

        a woman for duty
        a boy for pleasure
        a melon for ecstasy

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        • 235
          albacore says:

          What ecstatic Dave is doing with his hands
          The jovial chap on his right understands
          And, try as he might, just can’t keep a straight face
          But that incoming arm is right on Dave’s case

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  61. 217
    Blowing Whistles says:

    ughhh

    Prostitutes ‘solicit’ themselves for business and generally you get a service for your money and you don’t get ripped off for thousands of pounds or bankrupted if you complain.

    Solicitors prostitute themselves for business; but when you get bad service – and have been ripped off for thousands of pounds and complain – well don’t they seem to operate some kind of despicable protection racket that does lead to bankruptcy?

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    • 220
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Get to F you mo00 ders

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      • 221
        Blowing Whistles says:

        M0derers.

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        • 245
          Fabians ARE EVIL says:

          Are we allowed to say that Gordon Brown, Ed millitwit and Ed balls-up caused more damage to the UK economy than Hitler’s bombers – and yet they still have the cheek to ask us to take the bastards seriously!

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          • Long John Silver's parrot says:

            Please investigate the meetings and conversations passing between Brown and Blank .

            Do you think on the balance of probabilities a criminal prosecution could be laid which would be in the public interest?

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    urdu you do says:

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  63. 237
    VulgarDisplayOfPower says:

    Dave says: “Oh God! Oh Jesus Christ! Oh my God! Christ! No, no, dear God! No, Christ!”

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  64. 238
    albacore says:

    Fear not – while Dave’s away, trying out new hats
    The B B C’s still reassuringly bats
    They’ve discovered a real “story of success”
    London’s no longer British. Wouldn’t you guess?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21511904

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  65. 242
    So farewell then Kevin Ayers says:

    In memoriam :

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    • 243

      Shame.

      The dangers of addiction mitigate against reaching a mature state when the best work can come out.

      An uncomfortable trade-off between a Henrdix existence and, say, a Clapton one, even though he sailed a bit close at times…

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  66. 244

    Another insight into the nice guy we just lost:

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  67. 246
    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    Could both of these UK politicians please confirm in loud and clear voices that they are unaware of any bribery corruption or skullduggery relating to the Westland Augusta helicopter affair by either a UK registered company or any UK citizen .

    Not asking too much to have this matter clarified is it ?

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  68. 251

    It has started: Lawyers debate whether trial by jury is the best option.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21528308

    Both interviewed want the jury system retained though. They are not following orders…

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    • 260
      Long John Silver's parrot says:

      Ten questions equal ten grounds for appeal and no promotion this year.

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    • 280
      Blowing Whistles says:

      And as if by magic melanie puts the boot in too in de mail.

      Orchestrated, Manipulated and Stage-Managed!

      btw – The both wanting to retain are an initial play / set up.

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  69. 252
    Residing in 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    Ed looks quite becoming but Dave looks like someone in drag!

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  70. 264
    Quantrill says:

    First slavery, then the Mau Mau, now Amritsar, Apology Cameron is off again. What next? Iraq, Afghanistan, I bet Dresden doesn’t get a look in.

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  71. 266
    keredybretsa says:

    Might look a bit strange, but a blind person, would be happy to see him.

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  72. 269
    Tom Catesby says:

    The next time some Indian politician visits we should expect him or her to make a prat of themselves (more of a prat in Cameroon/Milliband’s cases) by sporting a ‘traditional’ bowler hat and a football scarf, but in their case, the visit probably wouldn’t be part of an arselicking exercise.

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  73. 284
    aussie rules says:

    What a pair of wankers,Im heartily sic of PC Britain we are mad thats why the country is in the shit

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The lefties are attacking because the panellist is a millionaire and lives in a London home worth upwards of two million. Someone had best tell them he’s called Ed Miliband.


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