Ed and Dave’s Sikh Chic
Sometimes it’s impossible for a politician to avoid the Hague Rule – never get photographed in a hat:
An old favourite of Ed, but there’s a touch of Berlusconi to Dave in Delhi today.
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Ed Balls stretches credulity by claiming he isn’t ambitious…
“I would love to be part of Ed’s Labour government but what I do next for me is not an all-consuming passion. I’m more bothered, in a personal sense, about getting to grade 8 piano by the time I’m 50.”
Bill Quango MP says:
Ned Flanders – Clegg
Lisa Simpson – Natalie Bennett
Milhouse – Hilary Benn
Martin Prince – Andy Burnham
Edna Krabappel – Luciana Berger
Crazy Cat Lady – Glenda jackson
Comic book guy – John Prescott
Carl – Chucka
Lenny – Philip Hammond
Willie – Eric joyce
Poochie – Gordon Brown
Reverend Lovejoy – Tony Blair
What a wanker!
I have not said anything yet
Please – http://order-order.com/2013/02/03/read-guido-in-the-sun-today/#comment-1579849
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Ed Milihindi-Band carries it off. Camoron just appears to have shat himself.
Is that a pair of BURKHA’s ?
Weird Ed looks, well really weird.. like the unpopular kid in the school play dressed up in his mums clothes.
And notice in the photo a steadying hand for CaMoron who must find it difficult to stand up since his backbone was removed.
RetarEd looks like he’s wandered into what he thought was a synagogue, Semtex and glass marbles stitched inside his waistcoat, but is looking forward to the 70 virgins so he’s going to press fast forward anyway.
He does LOOK a bit terror wristy, that’s all I’m saying.
Dave just looks like he’s turned up to the wrong fancy dress party.
It seems UK will soon join the PIGGS. We might need Germany to give us some money.
The day that the UK needs a bailout from Germany will likely be the day that Germany leaves the EU.
Is Parker Farage there without Lady Penelope?
There even seems a slight resemblance between them, well I never
Silly C-nts The People they are talking about would like nothing better than a good buggering, It would round off the greatest Clusterfu-k of all time.. 30′s Crash is a baby compared to what these C-nts have created
Is it possible for you to put that into normal English language without the expletives, I know it might be difficult considering your hate, anger and rage
I would never not swear.. Its part of being English and something that I am very proud of.. Its in our DNA and what we are famous for. I know school boys aren’t supposed too and teachers hate it as its a way of thinking for yourself and teachers don’t like that, as they believe they have all the answers.. Well I got news.. I dont hate anything, hate is self destructive. Swearing might be the answer.
The arse-bandit who’s always posting video clips is back
I spent three weeks growing that beard specially.
A new low in the pantheon of the PC brigade. Miliband, I don’t like words like ‘ugly’ or ‘evil’ or ‘stupid’ or even ‘twat’ but there is a time and place
You just can’t better that comment.
Any chance Dave could be refused entry will he comes back to the UK.
Didn’t think we refused anybody entry these days, especially dressed like that.
Ed Miliband wins the all-party “dress like a pirate” contest.
The test on the front says “I’m a socialist wanker”
“I pay rent I pay food for the horse” should that not be the taxpayer pays.
£ is going down and down. Inflation is going up and up. Export will not improve as input prices goes up. and up Soon AAA credit rating will be lost.
Cam and Os might have to go to IMF and Germany for a bailout.
Leck mich am Arsch, Englischer Nonces!
Ja Wohl, mein liebe Fuhrerine
The sooner the AAA rating goes the better. This Government has been allowed to con itself and us with it remaining top notch. Time for reality….
Don’t worry Wonga will help us out if needed. Perhaps the government should check all the loans its had over the last 10 years might be able to punt a PPI claim in and refinance the whole economy. Dozy c_nts will reap f_cking shit storm over the next 10 years
It is costing the taxpayer billions to maintain the myth of a triple ‘A’ rating.
P.S.
The parallels with withdrawal from the ‘gold standard’ are there to be made.
Not a problem follow the Brown plan print more money.
Ed like a feckin’ orange.
I’m 62
Time for a pooh!
Oh goody
I think it’s a woody
Kinnock was put inside a lightbulb. Dave’s inserted himself inside a Durex.
That look Dave has is he looking up at the Golden Temple and thinking to him self, all that gold, oh it looks so lovely, I wonder if they will give some to me
But neither look as ridiculous as Gordon in helicopter or on the buggy with Bush.
Tha’s forgot Borus dangling on that slide wire.
Dave’s looking more like Captain Pugwash, every day
Presumably Osborne is introduced as Roger the cabin boy?
There is the right wing blogger called Pau£ $taines, who is the cox(swain), who is Pugwash, I cannot remember any other character, I think those who dreamed that series were gayboys the way they named their characters. Come on Motty Botty finger out
Is Miliwatt channelling Clegg ?
Farage.
“there’s a touch of Berlusconi”
Bangra bangra?
I’m a nonentity, get me out of here.
Keep fighting in there if are a true member of the Sons of Owain Glyndwer
Its Glyndwr
Are they members of The Orange Institution or simply currying favour?
Direct hit
Consistently have I always said here, and you may check back through the records, that the only thing I know for sure is that I know nothing.
There is this nagging feeling that someone may have uttered similar sentiments before.
How wonderful it must be to be as clever as you. Beyond the reach of all possible doubt. Every sentiment that falls from your metaphorical lips being a testament to your intellect, erudition and ready wit. A fantastic success in life, as you surely must be.
Unfortunately, for we more dullard types, that can only remain a pipe dream.
It wasn’t me SC – just in case you have been having thoughts that it might be.
Has somebody farted?
I knew that BW.
We agree on political direction but often differ on means. Within that we can become quite rude to each other but we can also be civil. Each of us recognises and posts where we actually agree and neither of us feels that we lose face by admitting when that happens.
This sort of stuff is of a different order altogether. It is pathological. Very sad and incredibly obsessive. Many have remarked upon it both on and off this blog.
Thanks for that SC – I dare say not one lying scumbag of an MP in Parliament could stand up against either of us ‘scrutinising’ their daily rhetorical bull5hit and spin?
Would like to think you are right here, BW, but my lack of faith in human nature, where politics is concerned, gives me cause for doubt.
When you knew me less better, I think you felt I might be mentioning names solely to support my argument on the basis that if X says that, then it must be right. Hopefully you will now know that what is said has to be right in my mind. I say that to underline something which happened last week.
I had a protracted email correspondence, completely by chance, with a former cabinet minister. I had met him about 17 years ago but this time took him to task for how his party had lost touch with their voters. I did not pull any punches but did keep it polite. He was quite crestfallen when I told him I would probably vote UKIP at the next election. I think he is still a decent man in a stinkingly corrupt system.
It did not seem appropriate to bandy this about here so I kept it under my hat. I shall not release his identity but were I to have any direct evidence of any corruption from any of them I would shout very loudly. Because of my circumstances that is frankly unlikely to occur.
The point is that another MP has his mind concentrated upon the fact that even their most loyal of supporters are turning upon them. To that extent I am pleased with the tiny part I was able to play. Had I lost my temper, I would only have diminished my message.
Just shove the RPG up yer ass…. I’d watch that on Youtube everyday.
Nowt better than a fanatical raghead taking themselves of this planet.
Look at the photo in the article as well for practical demonstration.
I always was one for Sikh humour, Cat…
Mughal meets Mongol?
I was thinking more like, “Dave/Ed, puttin’ on the (Am)Ritz(ar),” myself.
Might be a stretch, for a bad pun that no-one but old Raj and South Asian types (or fans of Winston Churchill’s favourite songwriter, Mr Berlin) would get, anyway.
You are more adept at this sort of thing than I. Do you mean the Neru you get, the Fatehabad it is. I need some Luck now.
Ah! Dear Mother India!
Who can take tomorrow,
Dip it in a dream–
Separate the sorrow
And collect up all the cream?
The Gandhi Man can!
(Or HE thought so, anyway– maybe he was too much of a Wonk to be successful; maybe in the Depps of his soul, he knew differently, but he let his Wilder Genes take over…)
Hmm. I thought he slept with a young girl in order to prove to himself that he could resist temptation and then became ashamed when he got an erection.
One wonders what the girl thought about it? (For the avoidance of doubt, I am not referring to her opinion of the woody. Tsk. Tsk.)
None of the commentors of the old boy brigade have said it – so I will
There appears to be political chicanery going on with camoron’s visit to the Sikh’s.
Is he trying to curry favour with Eastleigh’s large Sikh community – if so I hope it backfires on him and Redneck Ed.
see 6:53 pm above.
I did – and it was noted for its colourfulness *winks*
Yes. I had marked up two notches there.
Glad someone got it.
It is really Saffron.
No CO – she or he is their own person – I have told you and others I do not need sockpuppets – get over it.
It would be a pointless exercise anyway given the candidature of Domestos Hutchings; she who is blue and ever so thick.
Is she a mate of Harpic Hatty?
You have to wear a head-scarf to get in the Golden Temple.
And you have to take one off when entering a church.
Oh wait…
I’ve got to hide my bald patch any way I can.
Then use the UKIP method – a full skinhead to go with the tattoos.
Once a tosser, always a tosser.
Does he also drink 12 pints a night like Vague?
12 pints of what?
Is this Dave’s Ravi Shankar moment ?
Why has Red ED got a large ‘D’ on his turban? Is this the Islamic equivalent to the pointy hat that children had to don in Victorian Times, meaning ‘Dunce’?
It is Ed demonstrating his love of the American national pastime of baseball, by wearing the cap logo of the Phoenix team, the Arizona Diamondbacks:
http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/54/50/full/kj8afwldb88t701vcvajwjgbp.gif
Kowtowing in all but name……… f*ck ‘em
Not a good look.
Are sending money to India for its space projects?
Dem two white boys be wearin’ doo-rags now?
Why dey gotta wear ‘em in the Dot neighbourhood, and dey nevuh be wearin’ ‘em ‘roun’ heah?
Dem jive-ass fool MF’ers!
GOT ME HOPES UP THERE….
For one minute I thought the Tabliban had captured the two useless Hunts and dressed them up just before beheading them.
You are john o’farrell and I claim my £5
Dear Jim
pls fixit for weird Ed and CaMoron to meet some Taliban warlords with a big fcuking knife and sharp stick.
yours
The Lib Dems
We are all kissing India’s arse
Has Camoron got any teeth?
Probably false ones!
Yes, all of his teeth are present and accounted for.
That’s all these politician’s do, is to kiss the arse of country who have bought into this country this year, the brown stain on these politician’s tongues must be permanent by now, gives them something to do, brownnosing and calling the British nasty names because of things happening a 100 years ago and keeps them from actually doing damage to the country.
Cameron has said sorry for the Amritsar Massacre are they (our Indian friends) going to own up for The Black Hole of Calcutta when 123 of our people met a ghastly end.
Talking of ghastly ends – that hat !! – ‘er indoors had a choking fit .
Now don’t say that I didn’t warn you.
And there’s more to come folks.
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Unbelievable !!!!!!
Perhaps you ought to read the advert below!
Rumours that Tory candidate in Eastleigh is not doing bbc 5 live debate tomorrow remarkable – clear the Tories now want to keep her hidden.
Get in there John O’Farrell.
Indeed let’s hear more from O’Farrell’s hate policies and why he wishes people to die painful deaths. That’ll do labour laodsagood. Not!
Give the Fenian fucker enough rope……….
Too late to hide her. The LibDems have this one sewn up. The best odds available on a LD win have shortened from 4-6 to 3-10 in just 3 days. And the bookies are never that wrong.
Politicians are great entertainment but neither of them beat that photo of gordon in afghanistan in the funny helmet. Sorry haven’t got a link.
Millytwit looks like a cheap indian rent boy
Ruinously expensive at the denouement, so I am given to understand.
Watch the Imbecile salute FFS
He is a mong, but that salute ? Uber mong.
Doing in actions what Gall0way even could only do in words.
Anyone remember what a money spinner the Olympics were meant to be ?
Just sayin’…
But they all got legless.
+£20 million. Now fuck off pleb.
I’m glad that I finally persuaded Dave to join the Trekkie community.
I would have thrashed those johnnies within an inch of their lives for the black hole of Calcutta rather than kowtow like that chinless, traitorous, gutless, slimeball Cameron.
And if no one ever will admit to wrong doing the bitterness just goes on and on.
Ed and Dave look stupid, but Justine and Sam just look ridiculous.
Shut it, beeyatch….
You can’t get a Sikh to even wear a fecking motorbike helment, what the feck are these two whitey twats doing wearing their pagan nonsense?
Never trust a religion that makes you wear a funny hat or do something silly with your head or facial hair.
…or otherwise.
Nu? So now you got something against yarmulkes and payot?
Oy gevalt! So now you think we’re like ganja-smoking Schwarzers, or knife-wielding Indischers? Have YOU got things all verkockte! Thank G*d not all Goyim are as prejudiced as you!
Smoke me a Kippah I’ll be back for breakfast.
Any news on that Rabbi who was covering up child abuse in London and Salford? Have the police finally started to investigate the crimes?
I’ll Kutcher duplicitousness and double dealing off – Khunt.
PLONKER ALERT
That O’Farrell, what a whiz. Ed Miliband watch your back.
That O’Farrell. He isn’t just a comedian, he’s also a c’unt. No one trick pony is he.
I don’t believe an IRA man speaks French. Nazi-style German maybe, but not French.
Why German ? Gaelic would be more likely.
Irish republicans sided with the Nazis in WWII
So what’s French for f-off and die you anti-english bastard then?
Tu vas tu fais foutre et mourir tu rôti de boeuf bâtard.
You see this is just how a real politician should behave: gravitas and serious minded, forwarding the lot of ordinary folk with sound argument and sensible discussion.
Ha ha ha, ho ho ho, he he he.
Très funny that (see what I did there, wanker O’Farrell?). Almost as funny as Sandi Toksvig and the News Quiz crowd.
Must go, I’m going to piss myself laughing…off to the bathroom, but I’ll get out quickly just in case you’ve left a bomb in there!
Ho ho ho. So funny.
I wonder if O’Farrell is getting tips from Martin Bell that other marxist commie put up job of Alistaire Campbells. Commie Marxists are Commie Marxists be they English, Welsh Scottish or Irish – They’re all still fucking bastard Marxist Commies.
French compulsory? Wait long enough and it will be.(Only joking, it’ll probably be Urdu or Polish).
So now Channel 4 News are against people that have had a good education, re Matt Frei’s interview with Mumford and Sons, this evening.
Just what is C4 News problem. The team are arrogant, hypocritical, loud mouthed and very rude.
So Dan Snow got where he is on ability alone, nothing to do with family connections.
LOL
Dan Snow is married to the daughter of the richest Englishman of his time
The last Duke of Westminster…
And he is also part of the hereditary UK TV broadcasting mafia that feeds the Briitish people such sh*t from morning to nite…Worthy of Kim il Uno of North Korean fame…
Like the BBC news C4 news is now unwatchable. Only RT has anything at all about how we live in the UK now.
Clocked that very good woman on her history – calling the proper shot on Cameron tonight – called him “fork-tongued”. Loved it.
Guru Dev on the right?
Who starred in Awaada (1951)?
Awaada tangled web we weave, eh, Cat?
Yes. Maybe I outdid you at your own game there. Purely by fluke, I have to admit. It was really bad.
A lot of Kap00rs:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043306/
R!shi (Gurudev) son of Raj (Awaada) grandson of Prithv!raj (Awaada).
The 1951 film was awaara, not awaada.
See above 9:28 pm where I confessed to this outrage, in a gross attempt to play Mr dePisse at his own advanced game.
The attempt was to play on Sir William’s more conventionally spelled name.
I’ll get me coat…
No worries. I think I get the joke now. Just needed to clarify as there is a very nice ‘Cats Cradle’ here but there was a disjoint with IMDB.
There is a more intriguing web as well within this. If one considers Singh’s comments yesterday, Blue Star, Assassination and !talian Helicopters.
A cornucopia of small curries which make a delicious banquet.
Also, the blue chakra governs the throat.
Lots indeed.
Madras hot!
Cameron is a bit daal and dosai. Still time for his lady fingers to get Singh’ed.
He is a bit Bombay Chicken but could Buryany if he really tried…
Why is it that we seem to be the only Country going that has to apologise for things that happened in the past?
Any chance the Italians might say sorry for wiping out Boudica and her clans? Of Merkel say sorry for bombing London, Coventry and many other cities flat?
I notice the BBC are making a big thing of this but looking back the BBC said little about the one eyes idiot NOT saying sorry.
The Danes have never apologised to us. Nor the Norwegians. Bastards.
What about the fucking Normans ?
They at least gave us Wisdom.
The Norman invasion was sanctioned by the Pope, as was the Spanish Armada.
It’s about time the Catholic church apologised.
We give you a christmas tree every year.
Are you attempting to needle me?
May have been trying to spruce it up a bit
Fir enuff.
The French should apologise in bended knee for sending over Willy the Conqueror as well FFS…
The place have never been the same since…
Everyone should apologise to us for nearly pushing us into the sea…
Andy Burnham et al. should definitely apologize before they are prosecuted for murdering people on the NHS.
Burnham or Buryem?
What have the Romans done for us?
I could argue Hadrian’s Wall but it wouldn’t stand up.
Whats Chilcott – doing these days – hope he is not wasting my taxpayers money on some long jolly in between writing up a report that a sun reporter could write in half an hour – ughh maybe not?
Chilcot’s continuing silence on Iraq is an affront to us all
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/13/iraq-war-chilcot-inquiry-findings-overdue
Chilcot’s report was probably finished months ago and handed over to some lily livered mandarin for “editing” (who left it on a train somewhere)
Can we add the Japs to the potential apology list for their actions in Burma etc?
GAY AND PROUD. OMG I didn’t know these celebrities were even gay. Even number 2? wow o_o http://pic-twittr.info/WUWh1L#sP
Number 2s is a wow for all gays.
Yes dear whatever you say, now get back to Ed’s cock there’s a good little Labour troll.
Get a job you idle lazy twat. I mean a REAL job.
Whenever someone disagrees with him, Jones accuses them of patronising him…his way of closing down an argument.
That’s an ad hominem attack. Could it be a form of homophobia ?
Knuckle dragging must be homophobic I would say
Just as any reference to my gerbils or replacement anuses…
He is a nasty little piece of work.
Anyone notice that you only ever hear him talking about a narrow set of non-problems and never solutions ? It would be interesting to hear his ideas on how to fix some of the real issues which are going on.
If he does get to start his revolution, he will likely be first up against the wall when his followers figure out what he’s really been up to.
It would be interesting to hear his ideas on how to fix some of the real issues which are going on.
Why, money of course! Lots and lots of taxpayers money, and lots of lovely jobs for special left-wing people like me ‘working’ in the special public sector.
Just don’t ask for any observable improvement, OK? If it all turns to shit it just proves we needed even more taxpayers money.
It would be good to get that on the record.
At the moment he is doing an !cke with his rhetoric. All problem, trying to get a reaction, no solutions.
Ah…the Palace Eunuch in Ali Baba and The Forty Thieves Panto
Two Interchangeable Palace Eunuchs for the price of one…OMG
Britain has never seen two such gormless pericks…
What did we do to deserve this?
They should both be on the front page of QC magazine
The best dressed and most desirable men in Britain 2013…
We need more Indians!
These two prunes look like capons just before they are roasted
Or just before they are offered as brides to some rich shirt lifter…
Depending on your taste…
If I were a muzzie, and these were the virgins on offer in paradise, I would be somewhat pi$$ed off.
In a nutshell
Chick Lite versus Chav…
I think Laurie Penny has nipple rings
Her only claim to fame in fact
If you met Paxman, would you be able to restrain yourself from kicking his f*cking head in? It would be difficult, but I think I might just manage it.
Lefty response to the Mansion Tax proposals:
‘Tax the rich till they hurt, they have loadsofmoney and get it off them.’
A claim for equality of material position can be met only be a government with totalitarian powers. F. von Hayek.
Good luck with that.
Many who are far, far better than they have tried that. And failed.
Adam Smith’s response.
Ground-rents are a still more proper subject of taxation than the rent of houses. A tax upon ground-rents would not raise the rents of houses. It would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent, who acts always as a monopolist, and exacts the greatest rent which can be got for the use of his ground. More or less can be got for it according as the competitors happen to be richer or poorer, or can afford to gratify their fancy for a particular spot of ground at a greater or smaller expense. In every country the greatest number of rich competitors is in the capital, and it is there accordingly that the highest ground-rents are always to be found. As the wealth of those competitors would in no respect be increased by a tax upon ground-rents, they would not probably be disposed to pay more for the use of the ground. Whether the tax was to be advanced by the inhabitant, or by the owner of the ground, would be of little importance. The more the inhabitant was obliged to pay for the tax, the less he would incline to pay for the ground; so that the final payment of the tax would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent.
— Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations, Book V, Chapter 2, Article I: Taxes upon the Rent of Houses
i.e. tax the land not the house.
I had posed a challenge to you here, Anti-Citizen One.
http://bit.ly/ZefuP6
This appears to be partly in reply but you have not posted against my post and seems to addressed to Fishy. Without going again over ground covered above, perhaps you could flesh out the response to the rest of my points to you.
It may have to be another time. I’m going skiing and need to catch a plane in 4 hours…
Have a good one. Oh! He’s gone…
Pity those scarves aint hanging around their necks.
They are, they just require knotting.
Are Sikhs circumcised by any chance?
Strictly prohibited.
Sikhs are not super bright though but do make very good warriors. They are perfect for body guard duties, but need to be respected as !ndira Ghand! learned the hard way.
ableman – does not want to mention the fat pension he gets from his years in the oil business – why’s that Cableman – why is he beaving like a FOX is there a RAY of sunshine who holds cableman in check???
Huff Poo at it again. Did they have to use all those stock photographs ?
Academic Urges Nurses To Combat Sexy Stereotypes With Own YouTube Videos (PICTURES)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/20/academic-urges-nurses-combat-sexy-stereotypes-youtube_n_2723054.html#slide=2126872
What a pair of burkhas. They really are the bottom of a very deep barrel of crap.
The absolute scrapings.
What a pair of tw*ts.
Anyone imagine the senior Sikh taking the turban off???
No – because he has principles unlike Militwit and iDave
LOL, that’s all our lot are fit for, a bit of fancy dress, think Dave enjoyed it, give him a pair of high heels and a Carmen Miranda hat next time.
how about swapping Slough for Kashmir ?
I thought we had
This wasn’t Slough????
http://brynalynvictims.blogspot.co.uk/
anyone fancy a game of hindu sikh?
Hello everyone. I just popped in to tell you all that I’m a complete and utter twat.
Do all of you barring the usual assholes who keep appearing on this blog not think that we are seeing a couple of utter tossers according to the photo’s making absolute dickheads of themselves.
What happened in the past is in the past,in fact I would presume that we should now be talking about what is going to happen in the future.
Has history taught us anything that has made us change our ways,well apparently not.
The first lesson history should teach us is that it is not people who want to fight wars and that it is power crazy individuals who in their craving for control want to fight such wars.
Politics to me has always been about powerful people who when they cannot achieve their objectives will resort to force to achieve it.
When we see these sort of people who are in the form of Cammorontosser and his mate birdshit ed sucking up to the indians were a majority of their people are living on jack shit,then it does make you wonder as to what this world is all about.
Yes people this world is all about unequality and I cannot see this changing.
All those years ago a certain Mr Cromwell told the house of commons/the people that in todays lingo you are not fit for purpose and you are not serving the people as you should.
IMHO he was correct,from his days have we cottened on,well no we have not,is this land now better,well no it is not.
A peaceful night to you all and I hope that tomorrow brings better news,nite nite to you all.
“Jugglers, whoremasters, dr*unkards and swindlers”– it did have a more poetic ring to it, than that which ye are likely to declaim today. Having so few vices allowed to us, ’twas bombast such as this, in which we Puritans had to content ourselves to delight.
Ah, that nice warty Mr Cromwell. My first wife’s cousin’s brother’s uncle knew him – and liked him well! He worked for the Guardian though, and wasn’t Irish, so that might explain it.
Could you rep…..
Did you say something ?
+IM
Vasoline on radio 5
Simple question which has not been revealed.
What was the ethnic make up of the jury??
And did it have the requisite proportions of BLTGs ?
Good point – the sketch writers drawings shown on CH4 news indicate a darker proportion.
So one then naturally must ask about how jury selection is really conducted in the court system – are there checks on the intellect / political persuasions of jurors? Are they required to have [they bloody well should] sufficient maturity and knowledge of English and English grammar – or are the ‘administrators’ playing a game – such that the wigs might now be springing up to call for no more jury trials? This juror debacle and its ‘timing’ seems rather strange or should I say ‘staged’ – perhaps with a hidden agenda by the whole of the legal fraternity in cahoots of course with the ‘expert legal’ hacks like joshua roseyboy?
from nao:
In 2007, the Crown Court received 136,000 criminal cases, including the most serious cases such as murder and rape. The Crown Court sits in almost 100 locations in England and Wales. HM Courts Service calculates that in 2007-08 the cost of operating the Crown Court was around £382 million.
Not all cases will involve a jury but probably more than half will – maybe 70,000 in this year. The average trial lasts for 1½ days so, if a jury is called for the normal two weeks, it may see six or more cases or, as here, just one which went into a second week.
Mr Justice Sweeney said he had never come across this at this stage, never. The jury had shown absolutely fundamental deficits in understanding. Prosecuting Counsel, Andrew Edis QC said This is not jury misconduct, this is not irregularity, this is a jury which has not, it appears, understood its function. Interesting words.
I am sure there are those in the legal profession and those in politics who would like to do away with juries but the words of these two men do not appear to play to that point, regardless of whether, within their roles, they are good, bad or average.
So to set this one case against the other 70,000 odd makes the situation even more extraordinary. I have sat on a jury myself and find this totally unlike my experience of the people who were serving with me. I myself passed a note to the judge which was put to a witness directly from the bench. I did this because I felt the prosecution examination had missed an important point.
I am indebted to the learned judge, that he gave it as his opinion, that the jury in the Pryce case, were as thick as ***t.
frоm nао:
Іn 2007, thе Crоwn Cоurt rеcеіvеd 136,000 crіmіnаl cаsеs, іncludіng thе mоst sеrіоus cаsеs such аs murdеr аnd rаpе. Thе Crоwn Cоurt sіts іn аlmоst 100 lоcаtіоns іn Еnglаnd аnd Wаlеs. HM Cоurts Sеrvіcе cаlculаtеs thаt іn 2007-08 thе cоst оf оpеrаtіng thе Crоwn Cоurt wаs аrоund £382 mіllіоn.
Nоt аll cаsеs wіll іnvоlvе а jury but prоbаbly mоrе thаn hаlf wіll – mаybе 70,000 іn thіs yеаr. Thе аvеrаgе trіаl lаsts fоr 1½ dаys sо, іf а jury іs cаllеd fоr thе nоrmаl twо wееks, іt mаy sее sіx оr mоrе cаsеs оr, аs hеrе, just оnе whіch wеnt іntо а sеcоnd wееk.
Mr Justіcе Swееnеy sаіd hе hаd nеvеr cоmе аcrоss thіs аt thіs stаgе, nеvеr. Thе jury hаd shоwn аbsоlutеly fundаmеntаl dеfіcіts іn undеrstаndіng. Prоsеcutіng Cоunsеl, Аndrеw Еdіs QC sаіd Thіs іs nоt jury mіscоnduct, thіs іs nоt іrrеgulаrіty, thіs іs а jury whіch hаs nоt, іt аppеаrs, undеrstооd іts functіоn. Іntеrеstіng wоrds.
І аm surе thеrе аrе thоsе іn thе lеgаl prоfеssіоn аnd thоsе іn pоlіtіcs whо wоuld lіkе tо dо аwаy wіth jurіеs but thе wоrds оf thеsе twо mеn dо nоt аppеаr tо plаy tо thаt pоіnt, rеgаrdlеss оf whеthеr, wіthіn thеіr rоlеs, thеy аrе gооd, bаd оr аvеrаgе.
Sо tо sеt thіs оnе cаsе аgаіnst thе оthеr 70,000 оdd mаkеs thе sіtuаtіоn еvеn mоrе еxtrаоrdіnаry. І hаvе sаt оn а jury mysеlf аnd fіnd thіs tоtаlly unlіkе my еxpеrіеncе оf thе pеоplе whо wеrе sеrvіng wіth mе. І mysеlf pаssеd а nоtе tо thе judgе whіch wаs put tо а wіtnеss dіrеctly frоm thе bеnch. І dіd thіs bеcаusе І fеlt thе prоsеcutіоn еxаmіnаtіоn hаd mіssеd аn іmpоrtаnt pоіnt.
Imagine Manmohan Singh visiting England and we ask him to take the turban off and wear – oh I don’t know – a topper or tam’o'shanter
It’s just fucking embarrassing Dave you useless soft-arsed twunt.
It’s a tourist thing
It’s like when you go to Dublin you dress like a leprachaun, stand at the end of O’Connell street saying ” How the fuck are ya ?”
Or perhaps like going to Glasgow and donning a kilt and ginger wig and collapsing in a pool of your own vomit at 6:30pm on a Friday night
you’ve got it
Isn’t that called a stag night?
I’m Dave and I’m a Hunt
Politics. Like prostitution except that it is you who gets fucked.
Prostitutes ‘solicit’ themselves for business and generally you get a service for your money and you don’t get ripped off for thousands of pounds or bankrupted if you complain.
Solicitors prostitute themselves for business; but when you get bad service – and have been ripped off for thousands of pounds and complain – well don’t they seem to operate some kind of despicable protection racket that does lead to bankruptcy?
I’ve been M000ded – I only wanted to make an analogy between Prostitutes who solicit for business and so licitors who pro.stitute themselves for bu.siness. miffed tut tut.
I get the drift! Have also suffered similar.
SC see 218 219 if they don’t disappear into the ether …..
We all know Cameroon/Milliband sahibs are a pair of **nts, the Indians clearly thought it would be a laugh to make ‘m dress like it.
I’m off on a little holiday jaunt now. Oh, do vote LibDem in the Eastleigh by-election, won’t you ??
Nick – I have to say that you are a cnut – a fully-fledged grade-A 100% cnut.
Is that clear?
I’ll put you down as ‘undecided’ then.
On LBC today, Chief Yellow (agreement breaker and EU trougher), Cleggy tells a pensioner who would not be able to afford the Mansion Tax, to SELL UP and move. He obviously thinks that property is theft.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9883344/Nick-Clegg-Elderly-should-sell-homes-or-pay-mansion-tax.html
Nick Clegg just needs shooting.
You pay double income tax (at least) on the money you earned to buy your house, you paid tax when you bought it, you paid council tax every fecking year, you paid tax on the insurance to insure the house, you paid tax on every fecking improvement you made to the house, you paid tax to heat the house, you pay tax when you sell the house.
But that’s still not enough for multimillionaire Clegg. That useless c*nt wants even more tax. Of all the MPs who deserve to die a slow and painful death, after watching their children die, Clegg’s at the top of the list, with Militwit not that far behind.
What they really want is the housing bubble to correct.
Or in the case of pensioners, those who have property with no mortgage to dump it on to the market so as there is some availability for first time buyers.
The ‘mansion tax’ will not happen as the backlash will likely get violent. This is just loony policy which is trying to distract from UK tax receipts falling through the floor and government looking to shore it up.
Those on variable rate mortgages will get creamed soon when the bond market collapses.
So where do pensioners go when they dump there no mortgage house on the market, join the Liverpool highway death trail or go to Stafford hospital and join their death trail, if a pensioner has a house and sells it all well and good but they must still have somewhere to live.
It’s time for the gloves to come off, Cameron to take on the Yellows and Milipede. I know there are a lot of Kippers on here but they are a distraction.
The Liberals and the left are undermining everything that a civilised society should stand for. You are right about tax upon tax upon tax, and effectively a confiscation of property and earnings which is the only thing that they know.
Look at the lies that Fat Jackie Smith spouted on the Sky paper review tonight, bragging that Brown paid off our debt with the money he raised from 3G and how we were better placed for the crash. F,ucking lies – every word.
This is a fight against Marxism, pure and simple.
It’s time for us to fight back, use the BBC’s phone in to disrupt their Marxist manipulation, disrupt the Toynbees and the Joneses dominance of the media. Speak up for the ordinary man.
Agreed. But the problem is that Cameron is not part of the Conservative bit of the Tory party.
That is why the UKIP support is there.
Cameron is part of the problem, not the solution.
The Conservative party is part of the solution, but not the bit which is in power at present.
UKIP represent the stick to get some normalcy back in to play and are part of the solution.
‘with respect, the pensioners are going to die soon so they are not too important.
Better to ensure they can pass wealth to their children and treat them humanely whilst they are still alive.
If they sell their home they will get 100% of the sale and can move in somewhere cheaper. With their children would be the normal pattern, but since family has been all but destroyed in UK that simple solution seems to be beyond the wit of most to conclude.
Not quite being of pensionable age, I must remind you CO that people regularly live to an age which is as much as four decades after their retirement. That is the equivalent of a working life.
Clearly this has ramifications for modern living with many understandably preferring not to have their elderly relatives living with them. It depends on how things like health hold up. My father lived to be 97 and still walked unaided to the bakery every day to get the bread, almost to the end.
There are also issues where one wants on the one hand to encourage the children but not to make it so easy that they do not strive. Whilst being entitled to it, they should not take the inherited wealth for granted.
Finally, none of us knows how long we have to live or how our own health will bear up. That creates another layer of complexity.
Increasingly, the state is wrapping its greedy tentacles around others’ wealth to fund its own conceits.
The living to four decades beyond retirement age is a problem under the current arrangements which has been recognized. The retirement age was originally set when the average life spans beyond retirement age were thought to be much less than they are now. A major error for the relevant government departments in many countries, including the UK.
Pensioners, if they are to be funded by the state, require an increased funding base if their numbers and longevity are increasing. This of course is an unsustainable pyramid scheme affected by demographics.
When it is understood that birth rates in developed nations have gone down and globally population is now not growing as fast as it previously was the funding problem becomes obvious. Especially over the next 20 to 40 years. It started about 5 years ago in the UK.
So far the following has been tried as solution:
i) Push pensioners into private pension schemes to relieve pressure on the state.
ii) Encourage home ownership so as pensioners have an asset which can be liquidated in order to relieve pressure on the state.
iii) Increase age of retirement so as the states time obligations to pensioners are reduced.
iv) Reduce life span by offering palliative care and assisted suicide routes / care pathways knowingly or otherwise to relieve pressure on the state.
v) Raid existing pensions via a tax in order to cover immediate obligations. (Another Brown masterstroke…)
vi) Wealth transfer between generations from younger to older via house price inflation.
And so on. This is all moving the deckchairs and ultimately failing to solve the real problem, whilst storing obscure and lethal problems for the younger generations.
Families are the logical structure for taking care of elderly parents. The extended structures (now being dismantled) in countries such as !ndia / Spa!n are case in point.
The state cannot deal with this problem and should realize this by now. Moving into a position of agent of last resort wrt. welfare is the logical solution, devolving responsibility back to where it should be.
The catch-22 in that idea you can evident since the family unit is being destroyed.
You point out about the issues of modern living: The amoral implications of that are one aspect of the problem. It is unbelievably amoral, unless there are good reasons such as a history of abuse, for children not to wish having their parents living with them, and wholly self destructive for the parents in the opposite case.
The new attempt to fix the funding shortfall though appears to be the following:
a) Tax majority of wealth which would otherwise pass from parent to children. (Inheritance tax changes)
b) Perform a tax grab on the primary asset of pensioners and others. (Mansion tax).
This of course would only cover things temporarily and introduce much bigger problems for the next generation as wealth transfer fails. There are many other implications as well, which if the state is involved lead you back to care pathways, etc.
The real problem is that if the path we are on is followed to its conclusion the right to a long life may next be in the frame. This and other rather abhorrent solutions can be fixed by decoupling the state from this issue.
The current status quo needs to change. There is no right or guarantee to a comfortable retirement, that was simply a propaganda which is used to coerce people to stay in occupations which are of benefit to others.
One day the braindead will figure out how many times something they buy is taxed and get very annoyed with these tosspot politicians, time to pay performance payments only to politicians, great taxpayer savings can be made .
If benefit payments are breadline, which most are, despite the DM and its supporters, so that it has to be spent more or less as received, then it will take 6 to 8 weeks for the government to get the whole amount back via indirect taxation.
How come no one ever seems to have realised this?
it’s clear we can’t trust any other fucker, if they don’t want to kill us they want to steal from us. Let us build a self sufficient society that will last a thousand years and fuck the rest.
I tried that with the third reich!…but the chosen ones capitalist fvckers screwed me over!
Heil Hitler!
”Look Mum” Mehatma Isdandy!
that’s very nice dear, just remember you wipe your bottom with your left hand
indian cloakroom attendant
This country is fucked, a bloody shame as I loved it as a kid.
I’m afraid it’s been taken over by the pink oboe players…thanks to me!
a woman for duty
a boy for pleasure
a melon for ecstasy
What ecstatic Dave is doing with his hands
The jovial chap on his right understands
And, try as he might, just can’t keep a straight face
But that incoming arm is right on Dave’s case
ughhh
Prostitutes ‘solicit’ themselves for business and generally you get a service for your money and you don’t get ripped off for thousands of pounds or bankrupted if you complain.
Solicitors prostitute themselves for business; but when you get bad service – and have been ripped off for thousands of pounds and complain – well don’t they seem to operate some kind of despicable protection racket that does lead to bankruptcy?
Get to F you mo00 ders
M0derers.
Are we allowed to say that Gordon Brown, Ed millitwit and Ed balls-up caused more damage to the UK economy than Hitler’s bombers – and yet they still have the cheek to ask us to take the bastards seriously!
Please investigate the meetings and conversations passing between Brown and Blank .
Do you think on the balance of probabilities a criminal prosecution could be laid which would be in the public interest?
Dave says: “Oh God! Oh Jesus Christ! Oh my God! Christ! No, no, dear God! No, Christ!”
Fear not – while Dave’s away, trying out new hats
The B B C’s still reassuringly bats
They’ve discovered a real “story of success”
London’s no longer British. Wouldn’t you guess?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21511904
In memoriam :
Shame.
The dangers of addiction mitigate against reaching a mature state when the best work can come out.
An uncomfortable trade-off between a Henrdix existence and, say, a Clapton one, even though he sailed a bit close at times…
Another insight into the nice guy we just lost:
Could both of these UK politicians please confirm in loud and clear voices that they are unaware of any bribery corruption or skullduggery relating to the Westland Augusta helicopter affair by either a UK registered company or any UK citizen .
Not asking too much to have this matter clarified is it ?
It has started: Lawyers debate whether trial by jury is the best option.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21528308
Both interviewed want the jury system retained though. They are not following orders…
Ten questions equal ten grounds for appeal and no promotion this year.
And as if by magic melanie puts the boot in too in de mail.
Orchestrated, Manipulated and Stage-Managed!
btw – The both wanting to retain are an initial play / set up.
Ed looks quite becoming but Dave looks like someone in drag!
First slavery, then the Mau Mau, now Amritsar, Apology Cameron is off again. What next? Iraq, Afghanistan, I bet Dresden doesn’t get a look in.
Might look a bit strange, but a blind person, would be happy to see him.
The next time some Indian politician visits we should expect him or her to make a prat of themselves (more of a prat in Cameroon/Milliband’s cases) by sporting a ‘traditional’ bowler hat and a football scarf, but in their case, the visit probably wouldn’t be part of an arselicking exercise.
What a pair of wankers,Im heartily sic of PC Britain we are mad thats why the country is in the shit