February 14th, 2013

When Ed Defended Gordon’s 10p Tax Disaster

What a difference a few years makes. Here is Ed Miliband in 2008, defending Gordon Brown’s abolition of the 10p tax rate:

“When you make a big set of changes in the tax system, some people do lose out. That is a matter of regret. Of course it is. But overall these changes make the tax system fairer.”

In 2008 he agreed it was fair, now Ed and Ed are landing their old boss in it. “Gordon Brown was wrong”…


215 Comments

  1. 1
    Ed Millibland says:

    To show that we are not the party for shirkers, we will announce a policy,
    namely that all benefit claimants will be in the 40% tax threshold.

    And this will not be by dropping the threshold either.

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    • 2
      V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

      The Labour Party are fundamentally incapable of controlling money, it’s not in their DNA.

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      • 11
        Ed Millibland says:

        This will be funded by taxing councils that let benefit claimants live in houses worth more than £2m.

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      • 47
        Do as I say says:

        It’s strange, they manage to control their own fat wallets well enough.

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      • 93
        Labour...mendacious expedient sociopaths all of 'em says:

        the face says it all as he turns to his bag carriers
        ‘do you think they swallowed it ?’

        if the Eddie boys didn’t start dishing gordon the dirt they could
        never turn over a new blank page.

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      • 161
        Ed Vacant says:

        I don’t understand the angst.

        Surely everyone living in London has a house worth at least a million (well, everyone worth knowing does) so these amounts are trivial but make me sound good.

        Everyone tells me so, especially Ed who said it would do down a storm ….or was that go down like a ship in a a storm?

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        • 187
          you need to do much better than call me a little Englander says:

          It’s not fair I suppose to make attacks on people when they can’t defend themsleves but you have to say Ed Miliband is the biggest ‘kin retard I know.
          Gordon’s 10p tax rate, were he to bring that back at the same bandings then everyone in a £2m house would have to pay £30m a year to cover the loss to the government. If Ed doesn’t know this then he’s incompetent, which of course he is, if he does know it then what does that tell the floating voter.

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        • 192
          Uncle Joe says:

          If only I had got the father before you gave him shelter! I could have saved from this light weight Trot, you have only yourselves to blame!

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      • 213
        Red Ed Miliband says:

        ARBEIT MACHT FREI! FEED THE GLORIOUS STATE! REJOICE! EXTRA RATION OF TURNIP VODKA FOR THOSE THAT WORK HARDER!

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    • 16
      Fishy says:

      Muddleband bounced into a rushed policy announcement – so steals the Lib Dems Mansion Tax and, aware that Tories were costing a 10p tax, gets that in first.

      What an opportunistic parasite.

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      • 28
        Nokia Shield says:

        INCOMING …

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      • 54
        Anonymous says:

        You should be Tory Spin Doctor – then again…?

        Ten pence starting rate of tax, and tax on two million pound houses, why would anyone want to attack such good ideas?

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        • 55
          Private Eye says:

          EXCLUSIVE:

          You should be Tory Spin Doctor – then again…?

          Ten pence starting rate of tax, and tax on two million pound houses, why would anyone want to attack such good ideas?

          Now do you understand?

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          • Mikis says:

            Such ideas should be attacked as:

            1. Raising personal allowances takes the poorest completely out of tax anyway.
            2. A mansion tax is effectively a tax on the South East which would be avoided elsewhere, often for much larger houses. SE residents are already payng the bulk of IHT and the major part of other taxes.

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          • Jim says:

            I am not too happy about taking the poor out of tax.

            First it is about paying my way. I use the free services and I do not need charity. (except for emergencies, like food banks).

            Second if I do not earn enough to use all my tax free pay I am not receiving the full tax allowances that I am Entitled to.

            Third I an not a number, I am a Human being with responsibilities.

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    • 29
      Osbrownian Economics Foundation (Flipflops Division) says:

      Smeg ‘Ed and Balls-ache.

      2008 = brown-nose
      2013 = clown-nose

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    • 87
      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha says:

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        yeah, right... says:

        Why can’t a 10p tax rate be paid for my government spending less actual money?

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        • 153
          Anonymous says:

          Yes, why not cut public services that most benefit hard-working families?

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          • Ed Vacant says:

            “hard-working families”

            Has Gordon Brown been sending children up chimneys again? When do families work?

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          • Catty Comment (Ms) says:

            Well if they cut the tax credits racket and let people keep their own money in the first place before taking it away in tax and then giving it back again in credits, then that would free up a whole department in Revenue and allow a couple of thousand people to go out and find proper jobs to do in the private sector which will help grow the economy as they will then pay tax.

            Why is it all so complicated when it can all be so simple?

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          • God's Holy Trousers says:

            “Why is it all so complicated when it can all be so simple?”
            Your idea whilst laudable would not create tens of thousands of sewer party dependants ready willing and able to cast their vote for silly boy Ed.

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    • 89
      genghiz the kahn says:

      What’s the difference between Council Tax and a Mansion Tax – other than an implication that its for the rich innit.

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      • 107
        SP4BS says:

        doesn’t council tax stop at a top band?

        so if your house is worth 320k or 640k or 5.12 million you still pay the same.

        Would be interesting if they had a “unlimited council tax with a H+ band that was proportional to the value of the house”. but a terrible soundbite.

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        • 117
          Let the User Pay says:

          Does it cost more to put a street light outside a big house than outside a small house?

          Do big houses use more social services than little houses?

          Do big houses catch fire more often than little houses?

          Do big houses drop more litter than little houses?

          Tesco charge a rich man the same price for a can of beans as a poor man and so should the council. Truth being that Jeremy Kyle viewers use council services disproportionately more than radio 4 listeners.

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  2. 3
    Red Ed Miliband says:

    TODAY I ANNOUNCE MY GLORIOUS FIVE YEAR PLAN, BORROW MORE TURNIPS UNTIL THE TURNIP HARVEST IS IN. REJOICE!

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    • 8
      Hornpipe says:

      They can fund the turnip harvest by borrowing less sweetcorn and save on methane gas.

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      • 212
        Red Ed Miliband says:

        NO NEED FOR FUNDING, THE PEASANTS CAN WORK THE TURNIP FIELDS SIX DAYS A WEEK FOR THE GLORIOUS STATE. REJOICE! EXTRA RATION OF TURNIP VODKA FOR THE PEASANTS FOR THOSE THAT PUT MORE EFFORT IN!

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    • 57
      Ed Balls says:

      Sell the turnips at below market rate to save the banks.

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      • 90
        Labourunionsbbc we are one under the EU says:

        Nationalise the turnip industry and sell them back to the owners (proles).

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        • 165
          Catty Comment (Ms) says:

          But I don’t like turnips – so I shall just have to eat carrot cake (as that posh lady said all those years ago).

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        • 211
          Red Ed Miliband says:

          THE ECONOMY OF TOMORROW WILL BE BASED ON TURNIPS, REJOICE! COMRADE BALLS HAS AN EXCELLENT PLAN FOR THE ECONOMY!

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      • 209
        Red Ed Miliband says:

        COMRADE BALLS MAKES AN EXELLENT SUGGESTION, WE SHOULD ALSO TELL EVERYONE THE DAY WE PLAN TO SELL THE TURNIPS. REJOICE, EXTRA RATION OF TURNIP SOUP FOR THE PEASANTS!

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    • 91
      Gonk III says:

      Don’t plant trees, plant turnips. Ban tractors and import Romanian and Bulgarian labour to harvest by hand. This meets all Labour objectives. Oh and increase Taxes

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    • 176
      Danielle Westbrook says:

      I misplaced my septum once.

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  3. 4
    Ed Milibandth says:

    Whath a humiliating u-turn!! Wesign! Weeeeeesign! Judge led inqwuawee!

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    • 104
      Anonymous says:

      is the pic supposed to tell us EdM has suffered a stroke.
      is so then it is deflecting from someone el.se.us stroke…
      (note eus cannot be in background no more…eu..us..uk
      .
      not nice to say this this but there is a pic out there of our lord and master.

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      • 167
        Catty Comment (Ms) says:

        So publish and be damned – and stop talking in riddles which none of us can understand.

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      • 214
        Anonymous says:

        Attacking and insulting MPs is fair game, making light of Stoke victims is totally out of order. Please reconsider?

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  4. 5
    Faq Defarno says:

    Well Nodrog Bruin won’t ever hear the comment as he doesn’t bother to turn up at HOC, preferring to make fatuous speeches in obscure countries to people who’ve never heard of him, and haven’t a clue what he did.

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      Tay King-dePisse says:

      You left out the part about his being well-remunerated for same. Always swanning off to Switzerland, New York, or the Emirates– it wouldn’t have anything to do with those places being banking centres. Oh no, couldn’t possibly be Little Gordie Brown visiting his money whilst he’s there ostensibly on UN or NYU business. He’s much too honest and earnest about wanting to save the world– he said so himself. Filthy lucre holds no attraction for him!

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  5. 6
    Bollocks Broadcasting Corporation says:

    We think that licence fee payers will agree that hiring James Purnell on £295,000 per year is an excellent use if their money.

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    • 9
      chancer says:

      -£145 from me

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    • 43
      Osbrownian Economics Foundation (Media Division) says:

      Warning to BBC Tax Collectors:

      Knock on my door at your own peril.

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    • 114
      Gonk III says:

      He is sure to move the corporation forward in a meaningful way.
      Also consult young people a lot.

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    • 136
      Anonymous says:

      as BJ would say peanuts.
      with the mon key in place who is the grinder.
      .
      but it is only peanuts for the man who has a lousy relationship with gawd…
      jp is better suited to monastic existence. for maybe that is what is missing in the life of a creative.
      the ability to know everything. that is what this period of austerity is all about. to be able to have a fantastic life on actually very little….for those who face usterity know it all in their heart.
      .
      so what is stopping the moaners from getting on with it.
      earthy desires distract so does being bombared by junk.
      when all the good energy leaks out or blocked within by the rubbish we eat , inhale, see, taste and hold in our mouth then all is lost.
      and illness and sub optimal life reigns supreme.
      .
      a zero posture with the left palm on top of the head and the right hand holding the tip of the left toe will keep energy in.
      this strange posture better than indulging in tip of tongue of top of mouth excess.
      .
      key words words are “zero”. relationship with gawd for “material uplift”. “good energy”.

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    • 144
      Fishy says:

      Head of Strategy? The BBC don’t need a Head of Strategy – they’ve already got one.

      1 Rubbish the Tories at every opportunity

      2 Ignore any Tory successes, while remembering there are no such things as Tory successes

      3 Promote Labour at every opportunity

      4 Ignore any Labour failings, while remembering that there are no such things as Labour failures

      5 Adhere to our Charter obligations by inviting independent commentators and experts onto our programmes hand to vouch for our independence.

      6 Those independent commentators will include: Polly Toynbee, Owen Jones, David Blanchflower, Paul Krugman

      7 Shag everything that moves

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  6. 7
    Owin Jones says:

    Guido Fawkes said: “People in Britain are putting in the hours – doing the shifts – as never before. But something has changed in the last few years.

    “There’s less chance of promotion, less chance of a pay rise, and at the same time, prices just go up and up and up: petrol for the car, tickets for the train, childcare for the kids, deposits for a first home.

    “The ‘squeezed middle’ has never been so squeezed – and it looks like it will be that for years to come. It’s no wonder our economy isn’t growing when people can’t afford to buy the things that British businesses try to sell.”

    He criticised the government’s decision to scrap the 50p tax rate for those earning over £150,000 from April 2013.

    “We need very successful entrepreneurs in Britain, making profits, being rewarded,” he will say. “But we can’t succeed as a country just by hoping wealth will trickle down from those at the top to everyone else, our economy won’t turn around that way.”

    Guido Fawkes concluded in his usual way

    “Let’s make a start by giving the Tories the fuck off tablet in the forthcoming Eastleigh by election”

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  7. 12
    Ed Megashambles says:

    You just don’t get the point do you? WUNASHUN

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    • 49
      Osbrownian Economics Foundation (Education Division) says:

      Wun what?

      Dear Smeg ‘Ed. Have tried learning to speak English?

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      • 156
        restore the monasteries says:

        Ed said,”his father came here as a migrant,unable to speak English,and,helped
        build post-war Britain”.. I suppose we should be grateful..
        (the war fucked up my dad,and i was brought up with a shell of the man he’d been)

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  8. 13
    Raving Loon says:

    Income tax should be abolished for anyone earning less than the national average wage. This could be “paid for” by abolishing foreign aid, the DfID, withdrawing from the EU, and ending our military presence in lands ruled by the religion of peace.

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    • 52
      Osbrownian Economics Foundation (Irreverent Division) says:

      Ban Income Tax.

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      • 173
        Catty Comment (Ms) says:

        … which, when it was first introduced, we (ie: those around at the time) were all confidently assured that it would only be “temporary”.

        Since then all succeeding governments have failed to find the ‘off’ switch.

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    • 174
      Curly says:

      .. and cutting the number of MPs by 50%, along with all their perks, allowances and subsidies. Nobody else gets them, so why should they?

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  9. 14
    Ed Millibland says:

    I demand a steward led enquiry into the horse-meat scandal.

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  10. 15
    Ed Megashambles says:

    Dear Raving Loon

    You seem to have some very solid ideas. I would invite you to join our team but we ahve a very firm no ploicy policy and you seem to have some policies. Have you thought of joining some other political association of fuckwits?

    All the best and keep on with the electro- therapy

    Your next national Leader

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  11. 18
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    All these changes would need to be checked, monitored and cleared by a army of clipboard-carrying bureaucrats whom we would hire from Libor constituencies.

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    James Purnell says:

    We’re not biased here at the bbc.

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  14. 21
    YorkshireLad says:

    And I was thinking that Mr Brown was infallable

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  15. 22
    Penfold says:

    That was then (Gordon made me say it), this is now…..and I want to be elected…

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  16. 23
    Oscar stole your thunder. says:

    This story has legs……

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  17. 25

    How many times can he use this approach?

    If by some bizarre calamity, he is elected to office, he can use the same approach to reverse it yet again.

    We need to be told.

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    • 77
      Casual Observer says:

      He can use it as many times as he sees fit.

      If people buy it, it works for him and is a good strategy.

      However, looking at the package overall, it does appear that he is undermining his and his parties credibility, so perhaps he is just wasting peoples time and trying to distract the media from something else. Like hospital deaths.

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      • 109

        It does seem that way. Opposition is a great time to reconnect with the people. Get the pulse. Reformulate the interpretation of the political philosophy. Establish the root causes of what got you slung out. Recognise, acknowledge and apologise for the mistakes. Get prepared so that the revised approach is coherent consistent and concise ready for everyone to go out and sing from the same hymn sheet.

        This is just opportunistic thrashing.

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        • 178
          Curly says:

          “Recognise, acknowledge and apologise for the mistakes.”

          Like unlimited Islamic immigration, 3000+ new laws, ID cards, starting a few wars, fucking up the NHS whilst doubling its cost? PFI corruption etc?

          You know, you may have a point there!

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    • 145
      Aunt Hilda says:

      perpetually … he learnt at gordon’s knee

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  18. 26
    Steve Miliband says:

    Has the policy unwound yet

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  19. 27
    Anonymous says:

    Does anyone here want to defend the top rate of tax being cut to 45p in the pound, while Poundland force people to work wage-free?

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    • 36
      Steve Miliband says:

      Why should anyone pay more than 40% tax?

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    • 46
      Ed Millibland says:

      We should only tax people working for nothing at 10% of their salary.

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    • 88
      Casual Observer says:

      Yes and no.

      Top rate should be cut to a minimum of 35%: 37% may be optimal. Do the same with corporation tax.

      Bottom 10p rate put back in immediately. (possibly at 12p)

      Get rid of all the tax credit b/s and simplify the forms for both business and individuals so as they can determine the tax they need to pay without needing an accountant and offshore trust.

      Sounds whacky ?

      That would not only get the economy moving, but would increase tax receipts. Check Laffer’s work and read around. The ‘class’ struggle b/s from Labour mongs and ignorance of certain sections of the Tory left have muddied the water.

      Stop with the zero pay in Poundland. Even prisoners get paid for the labor they perform.

      Reasons why non-voluntary free work is bad idea:

      i) Management have no hold over staff. You are not paying them, why should they give an ‘f’
      ii) Staff more likely to steal and pilfer as a result of not being paid
      iii) You are disadvantaging people who would work for a wage at the places, which has bad feedback for benefits system and is self destructive.
      iv) Henry Ford realized that by paying his staff a good wage, they would be able to buy his products.

      This is simple capitalism 101 which was figured out here and in the US years back.

      Adam Smith would be looking at that and laughing his head off, whilst reaching for the musket.

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      • 101
        Steve Miliband says:

        agreed

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      • 102
        Hornpipe says:

        Reduce employers NI, its an arsehole of a tax.

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      • 113
        SP4BS says:

        without going into all that detail, and without changing things much:

        If they’ve got the cash to cut tax for the lowest paid, keep the %s and raise the minimum threshold. Easy. A boost to low paid. some people don’t need to bother with tax forms. Great.

        but a terrible soundbite. arseholes.

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        • 135
          Casual Observer says:

          The problem though is that the economy will remain largely stagnant.

          The cost of figuring out tax, not to mention the amount you need to part with puts off investment and entrepreneurs. Reduce those blocks and business will start to flourish, avoid and evade less and you should see revenues paradoxically go up.

          There is no point in setting just the 10p rate, other than for cheap political points. Keeping the rest static will only reduce tax income.

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      • 179
        Curly says:

        Since when was Poundland responsible for setting tax policy?

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      • 203
        Anonymous says:

        Yes, the top rates of income and corporation tax can be greatly reduced – but only by making massive cuts in public services/or selling off the NHS.

        Yes, get rid of all the tax credit (a State benefit to business) by paying a decent living wage. As it is, forced-labour is seen by the likes of Poundland as a way of forcing down wages, and making the remaining paid staff yet more fearful.

        Determining the tax they want to pay – do not the likes of Starbuck already do this?

        The idea of getting the economy moving, by way tax-cuts for the rich, but cut-backs for the poor, is the same old right-wing BS – from the same old US ‘Think’ Tanks.

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    • 196
      Left wing fuckwit spotter says:

      Yes I will
      It was cut from 50% where it had been for 35 days of a 13 year labour government. The tax has been higher now for longer than that entire Labour government.

      The pound land lady received state benefits and I agree she should not sit around watching daytime while she can be made to earn

      Now fuck off

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      • 206
        Anonymous says:

        To say that she sits “around watching daytime”, you must know Cait Reilly fairly well? For you should be aware that, far from being “made to earn”, Cait was forced to work (un-waged) for Poundland. And that this unskilled post was in no way helping her ‘back to work’.

        In legal terms, the ruling states that: “any scheme must be such as has been authorised by Parliament. There is a constitutional issue involved. The loss of jobseekers’ allowance may result in considerable personal hardship, and it is not surprising that Parliament should have been careful in making provision for the circumstances in which the sanction may be imposed.”

        Is not this a clear statement of law?

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        • 208
          Anonymous says:

          And Finally Tonight.
          Emma Harrison, Chair of Work Programme Provider A4e – and owner a 20-bedroom, £5 million mansion – was asked if it was right to make £100 a week out of each unemployed person. “At the end of the day,” she replies, “a successful businessperson finds a market and exploits it.”

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    Andrew Efiong says:

    Like it or not Labour are talking about low taxes.

    The trouble is they don’t say where the money comes from. Once again their sums don’t add up! Hello deficit!

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    yeah, right... says:

    Slightly OT, but I note with interest that the Guardian is gleefully reporting the words of Tax Avoider in Chief Danny Alexander that firms which avoid tax will not be allowed to bid for government contracts.

    Where will the government now place all it’s print recruitment ads now GMG is ruled out? Daily Mail?

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    • 62
      Rupert Murdokski says:

      The Daily Turnip, Bulgaria.

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    • 98
      Casual Observer says:

      It is illegal to rule out tender bids or discriminate unfairly against such companies competing on these grounds ?

      Evading tax is one thing, but this is the same as saying that companies which have red in the logo are banned ?

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      • 143
        Osbrownian Economics Foundation (Boar Lance Sheet Division) says:

        I would happily see a ban given to “Labour Party Properties Limited” and “Labour Party Nominees Limited”.

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      • 180
        Curly says:

        Simple U-turn. Allow them to tender and put all such bids straight into the shredder with Tone’s expenses forms.

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  22. 33
    Moussa Koussa Mark 6 says:

    Poor Dave ( Ohh Ducky, where’s me hand bag ) Cockerman…has been shafted again

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  23. 34
    Sarah says:

    STOP IT! You’re all be beastly to my Gordon. It’s not his fault, he has issues. As for Ed and Ed. I thought you two were his friends. Well I can tell you, he’s getting on much better since he stopped seeing you.

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  24. 35
    chancer says:

    So, next Labour luvvy to get a wee series on BBC is Izzard. What a joke.

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  25. 37
    Moussa Koussa Mark 6 says:

    errrrrr Horse Meat = MORE RED TAPE WOULD HAVE PREVENTED SCANDAL.

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  26. 39
    Paniagua says:

    When exactly will the general electorate wake up and realise the bullshit from either party is exactly that bullshit. Look at all the fucking excuses the current lickspittle comes up with for all his U turns. The next one in power will do the same, so long as the LibLabCon Triad are at the helm.

    Vote UKIP and probably not get UKIP but it will send a large message to the slimeballs.

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  27. 40
    Mr Rotivator says:

    Not all of us can afford to be socialists. Being paid £300k of our money helps, though.

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  28. 44

    *** STOP PRESS ***

    Huhne handed down sentence of 10 years.

    (Sorry, got carried away…)

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  29. 50
    Bardirect says:

    Why mess around with this the Vicky Pryce Jury are out..

    My prediction a quick acquittal before lunch or lengthy deliberations and a guilty verdict.

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  30. 53
    Moussa Koussa Mark 6 says:

    What we need is more Indian nationals in UK……You couldnt make it up !!!!!!

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      yeah, right... says:

      Don’t confuse Indians with what the BBC often terms ‘Asians’, as in ‘the vulnerable girls were abused by gangs of asian men’

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      • 116
        Jingly says:

        +1

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      • 121
        UK Watch says:

        Funny you should say that.

        !ndian’s from the old country refer to what the BBC call ‘Asians’ as BBC.

        Here BBC means: British Born and Confused.

        The Ch!nese community should complain about the BBC (Bolox Broadcaster) slurs though.

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        • 130
          yeah, right... says:

          Indeed, as should Malaysians, although the point applies equally to Indians. There was another common link which applied to ALL of the men convicted in these abuse cases which the BBC never seems to think important enough to mention.

          Clue: it’s religion based.

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          • UK Watch says:

            They were not H!ndu.

            When getting racial slurs in order be sure to separate your !ndian from your P@k! from your B@ngladesh!.

            The clue is in their names.

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          • UK Watch says:

            Should have mentioned: It is sometimes tricky to tell which side of the border a Punjab! sources from. If they are Gujarat!’s, those guys are known scum even in !ndia. Bit of a running joke over there that the UK let so many of them in.

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          • yeah, right... says:

            Of course they weren’t Hindus. And nor were they Indians. I think you are missing my point.

            And religion has nothing to do with race.

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          • A Malaysian view says:

            Hallo, I just happened by as recommended by a friend, to see your note about Malaysians.

            I agree with you that the BBC coverage of Malaysia is biased and relentlessly skewed against the generally honest and trustworthy government who genuinely seem to have the interests of the people at heart.

            If I were the Minister responsible, I would immediately withdraw the BBC rep’s accreditation and ban them for a year. CNN and Al Jazeera have their agendas too, but at least in their coverage they usually give both sides of a story.

            Thank you for this space.

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  31. 56
    Labour Treason says:

    So Ed says he is going to make a speech, he is ridiculed because there is no policy content. He then produces a single tax plan that has a £5B hole in it. The only thing it shows is Labour’s financial incompetence.

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  32. 58
    GOM says:

    How do you spell l-i-m-p-d-i-c-k-e-d o-p-p-o-r-t-u-n-i-s-t…?

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  33. 71
    Cardinal Owen Jones says:

    Vatican spokesman won’t confirm reports that Gideon George Osborne has been appointed head of the Vatican Bank.

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  34. 81
    Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

    I have never heard of Gordon Brown.

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  35. 84
    Anonymous says:

    Andrew Neil shredding Ballsup right now.

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  36. 85
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha says:

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    • 96
      yeah, right... says:

      Well you laugh, but these cynical bastards know only too well the old maxim, ‘a lie told oftern enough becomes the truth’

      That’s why most people really do believe that the government is taxing bedrooms.

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    • 100
      Labour to tax the poor. says:

      So Ed will tax the poor at 10% while the coalition is taxing the poor at 0%.

      What the Fuck are you proud about Chuka.

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    • 129
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      Who is this snivelling little shit?

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      • 147
        Gonk III says:

        No one !

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      • 189
        Catty Comment (Ms) says:

        Has nobody mentioned to him that under the last Liebore govt the top rate of tax was 40% — until Brown’s last few days in office when he raised it to 50% to spite the incoming government.

        Perhaps somebody could have a word in his shell-like one of these days? And buy him a recent history book to read in the bath.

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  37. 86
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Why are people surprised Purnell has been given a job by the BBC? They employ ex Liebore scum on a regular basis.

    Owen Jones and 5 bellies Smiff are never off the BBC.

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  38. 94
    Jimmy says:

    He shoots. He scores.

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  39. 95
    Labour just can not resist costly Red Tape says:

    So Labour are going to make the tax system more complicated again.

    The coalition have taken the poor out of tax altogether and Labour plan to tax them at 10% plus all the administrative costs that will involve.

    FAIL a BIG FAIL ED!!!

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    • 97
      yeah, right... says:

      More complicated tax rules = More heavily unionised, public sector employees = more labour votes.

      Ker-ching.

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  40. 99
    WVM says:

    Ed Balls took a right drubbing from Brillo on Daily Politics this afternoon, you should take a look Guido.

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  41. 105
    Anonymous says:

    Andy Burnham ‏@andyburnhammp

    These ‘dementia taxes’ are direct result of cuts to council care budgets. People now more likely to have to pay right up to new £75k cap.

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  42. 106
    Anonymous says:

    I don’t believe it! From one remark at 11.45, to 70 comments 12:32 – would not Guido False be a better name for this site?

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  43. 108
    Owin Jones says:

    3 little words you’ve been longing to hear all day – DAVID CAMERON RESIGNS !!!!!

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  44. 110
    Own Goal or what? says:

    This is an absolute gift for the Tories.

    Labour have just pledged to increase taxes for the poor from 0% (under the coalition) to 10% under a future Labour government.

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    • 134
      Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:

      Oh well, back to the blank sheet of paper.

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    • 141
      stun says:

      This is of course what CCHQ should be putting out to all and sundry, preferably with the added ‘to pay money to shirkers’ added. Won’t though, the lily-livered scrotes.

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  45. 115
    Labourunionsbbc we are one under the EU says:

    If I listen to TWaO will ‘old mother Carney’ be critiquing google-eyes little speech?

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  46. 124
    Sir Barrington Minge says:

    Whenever Ed and Ed appear there is always an overpowering smell in the air.

    Pig?..no. Horse?…no. Goose?…no? Bull? yes that’s it….. Bullshit!!!!!

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  47. 133
    albacore says:

    What’s this heresy – “Gordon Brown was wrong”?
    That little Ed better get back on song
    True LibLabCons never confess mistakes
    Gordon saved the world’s folks, for Heaven’s sakes
    And just to prove their appreciation
    They wind up here, via immigration
    (And Cameron ain’t arf busting a gut
    To ensure the open door’s never shut)

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  48. 138
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Ed Balls was on the Daily Politics. Even by Balls standards he spoke the worst drivel I have ever heard.
    Absolute garbage.
    Let’s hope Balls remains the labour shadow chancellor.

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  49. 171
    Red Egg Millitit.....oh nooooo says:

    Much weeping and wailing on the left and beeb, to think one of their icons could have a history of domestic violence and murder……

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/14/oscar-pistorius-girlfriend-shot-dead

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  50. 172
    So called compassionate Labour says:

    This is Miliband’s best hypocrisy to date. Talk about shifting the blame to the boss. Gordon Brown’s mistake ? !!!!! …..and you fought tooth and nail to oppose the abolition of the 10p rate did you Ed ?……and why didn’t a so called socialist party like the Labour party introduce (nearly) £10k limit before low paid workers start paying tax ? Staggering hypocrisy. Better prune that money tree at the bottom of your garden Ed. The residents of Primrose Hill will get clobbered with his Mansion Tax !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  51. 182
    FarmerGiles says:

    lets hope labour don’t reinstate their NHS policy 1200 dead and counting.

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    • 215
      Anonymous says:

      NEW Labour policy? For NO true Labour MP would not have undermined the NHS. Does not Phony Tony and his mates have a lot to answer for?

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  52. 201
    greenpixie says:

    Well finally Ed Balls has apologised for the ballsup (well partly) by admitting he told them it was wrong four years ago. Who would believe it. and yet while I sit watching the oppositon front bench at PMQ, seeing the leader flanked by his able lieutenants Ed and Yvette, the only picture I get is of a complete dick-Ed hanging between two balls

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