February 12th, 2013

Tories Turn On Osborne

George Osborne is under fire from all sides this morning. He can expect more of the same until the Budget on March 20, it is going to be a very long six weeks for the Chancellor.  

One usually loyal Tory MP raged to Guido yesterday about the new social care plans paid for by breaking the inheritance tax promise: “This is a ridiculous, socialist idea. God know what they are doing… We haven’t even begun to address to the problems facing our economy and we’re going to create another NHS – and this from a Conservative government.”

Lord Forsyth, once sympathetic to the Chancellor, describes yesterday’s Tory death tax as “very disappointing”, accusing him of breaking promises and admitting “it’s hard to see how this squares with the Prime Minister’s declared intention to support the striving classes”. David Davis goes further, seeing the move as “dismaying” and noting the irony of him abandoning his flagship policy for a Gordon Brown stealth tax. Douglas Carswell’s continuing comparisons of Osborne and the Prime Mentalist still hurt.

The commentariat is just as damning. Stephen Glover of the Mail attacks it as “a betrayal of Tory values that shatters the hopes of ordinary families”, Peter Hoskin at ConHome notes that he is becoming  “a locus of Tory discontent”. It isn’t just the death tax, Jeremy Warner says no one knows what is going on with the economy, Rachel Sylvester warns Osborne is in real need of a trump card.

It is worth remembering the Afriyie plotters hinted they would go for Osborne first…

George Os-browne pic via @carlamillar1

161 Comments

  1. 1
    lola says:

    Osborne is an economically ignorant. End of.

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  2. 2
    George (the oik) Osborne says:

    Die Die Die!

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  3. 3
    The Fabian Society says:

    This is not a conservatibe government. Get over it.

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    • 44
      The Conservatives didn't WIN the 2010 election says:

      Coalition Policy is decided by the LibDems….the Tory Headbangers can rage and froth at the mouth as much as THEY like…it’ll all be over in 2015 anyway…Cameron and Osborne will be gone with probably 30% of the present sitting Tory MPs

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  4. 4
    Steve Miliband says:

    We’re f*cked.
    The Government spends money it hasn’t got and is running out of ideas of how to get more money.

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  5. 5
    Enrichment says:

    Immigrants need not worry – just carry on sending your remittances overseas and your wealth will be untouchable.

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  6. 12
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Not Wanted Dave The Chameleon and Osbrowne.

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  7. 14
    Anonymous says:

    Only 20k? Before long everything will be deemed to be owned by the State. It’s all theirs, not ours.

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    • 57
      Logan's Run coming to a neighbourhood near you soon says:

      Makes “Dignitas” almost sound appealing…………………

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    • 146
      ?..? says:

      Oh goody!!!! Then we might get our airports, railways, power and water companies etc etc etc back again. Bring on your re-nationalisation asap then we can start over and do it properly!

      .. and get rid of all these eyesore windmills too.

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  8. 17
    Labourunionsbbc we are one under the EU says:

    Actually there are differences between Osborne and the mental gorgon when he was chancellor: Osborne doesn’t have the imbecilic grin, and he’s not continually plotting and scheming to be prime minister, and er, that’s it.

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  9. 19
    Tony Blair says:

    McMental’s hair suits him better than his own.

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  10. 20
    Fancy some cake? says:

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  11. 21
    Living in 96.99% white Merseyside says:

    What’s all the fuss about. People live these days till they’re in their 80’s or 90’s.
    By the time they pass on their children are probably about to retire.

    If it was raised to a million you would have loads hoping those they are expecting to inherit from kick the bucket earlier than later.

    Take poor Charles, isn’t he 65 this year?

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  12. 22
    Lost In Clacton says:

    Guilty of slavery now .

    Him and Huhne in the same cell .

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  13. 24
    the PBT says:

    Mr Osborne is doing what any real politician has to – ratting on his own half-witted, bigotted ‘supporters’

    Mrs Thatcher and Mr Blair both did it

    perhaps the ‘usually loyal’ (and probably just as usually devious and pusillanimous) tory mp quoted confidentially by GF above should tell us how otherwise those on low incomes should be taxed to fund property subsidies for the well off

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  14. 26
    Andy Burnham says:

    I’m trying damn hard to make sure I’m NOT another victim of the NHS.

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  15. 27
    Jimbo says:

    What can you expect from a Socialist Chancellor and Socialist Blair adoring PM. More lies and more broken promises. When Gay Marriage is more important than dealing with important things such as the economy and immigration, should tell you something about this pair, just who is pulling their strings ? who is actually making the decisions for this Country? it sure as hell is not this pair of non descripts.
    Get rid of both and replace with David Davis, someone who is in contact with reality !
    As for Alfreaia however you spell it ,forget him, we have not heard of him dont know him, same as Cameron and look how it turned out, remember the cast iron guarantee ? lying sod.
    Look out Conservative MP’s ,you are about to lose your jobs, UKIP is coming and worth voting for as the three main Parties are all the same and really,really useless, you should hear what the average man and woman in the street are saying about you all all fuelled by assisting Bankers to rob the public and bring in further immigrants.

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  16. 33
    While Rome burns says:

    A right royal dogmatist
    Feb 12, 2013
    Climate: Parliament Royal Society
    Ed Davey is to speak to a Royal Society seminar today on the subject of climate change. Apparently he will argue that

    the science of climate change is “irrefutable” and man is making a “significant” contribution to rising global temperatures.

    Irrefutable eh? That doesn’t sound like science to me. That sounds like religion.

    Funny old place the Royal Society.

    Update on Feb 12, 2013 by Bishop Hill
    More details of the speech are at Business Green.

    Davey will offer fresh assurances that the government’s climate policy is firmly based on the latest scientific evidence and call on scientists and researchers to play an even more proactive role in supporting the development of the green economy.

    Blimey. Some scientists are already lying to support the development of the green economy. What more does he want?

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    • 35
      While Rome burns says:

      HT Bishop Hill

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    • 41
      Puppet master says:

      What more do his true masters in the EU want?
      Whatever the UN tells them to do.

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    • 87
      CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

      “Green economy” I think you meant to say “economy wrecking rent-seeking”.

      Cold is Warm
      Waste is Efficiency
      Subsidy is Sustainable

      We have always been at war with it being too warm in the U.K.

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  17. 38
    Quis custodiet says:

    The argument that people lying in a home with dementia could give a damn whether their home has been sold is pure bollocks.

    This social care plan is all about protecting their children’s inheritance, so why shouldn’t Inhertance Tax be used to pay for it?

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    • 45
      Common Sense says:

      These people might argue that, having paid taxes all their lives to fund a ‘cradle to grave’ system, they should be looked after by the state when they need it?

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      • 58
        Quis custodiet says:

        And in most cases received a boost to their investment in a house by a combination of mortgage tax relief, artificially low interest rates (below inflation until the 80s) and a housing price bubble.

        Whichever way you look at this, additional taxes are needed so that some people can protect their inheritance. Inheritance Tax seems the fairest.

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        • 86
          Dictionary says:

          No, if the government stops sending troops to fight in wars that are none of our business and stops pissing away 0.7% of GDP in foriegn aid and billions on fees for the cloakroom girl at the EU, we can still afford a decent system. GPs can do with a salary cut too, of course.

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    • 89
      CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

      It’s all about trying to buy votes from an already massively subsidised group.

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  18. 40
    Vote UKIP -- The Cons. are Cnuts says:

    Inheritance tax commitment — BROKEN
    Eliminating Deficit by 2015 — TOO BE BROKEN

    Gay Marriage — NOT IN MANIFESTO — legislation underway.

    WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING DAVE AND GIDEON ????

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    • 55
      Con Artists says:

      We are preparing to let in 5 million Romanians and Bulgarians.

      But first we have to free up council houses by killing the indigenous population, that’s why we are busy.

      But we also need to house millions of muuuslims and their kids so we need to kill some more Brits.. Gideon who shall we go for next ? I know make the UK taxs high so the wealthy indigenous leave… But then we have no income to pay the bills…

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      • 106
        Yes Yes Yes To Plain Packs says:

        Why don’t you emigrate to Romania or Bulgaria then.

        Fine weather, beautiful scenery, idyllic rural settings, ultra-cheap real estate and an open-door immigration policy for British citizens.

        And according to the reputable UK press, the entire native population of both countries will have decamped by the 2nd of January 2014, so you’ll have the place to yourself.

        http://www.romaniatourism.com/

        http://bulgariatravel.org/

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        • 139
          Con Artists says:

          Reply to yes yes yes

          Because I was born, and live in the UK.

          Why don’t you move there ?

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        • 151
          A quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing says:

          I have no interest in either Bulgaria or Romania and I wish that they held the same view of this country. I do not understand why the failed states of the former Warsaw Pact seem glad for their citizens to move in their millions to this country. Is it that the EU is not actually able to raise their standards of living as promised? At the very least the EU should be paying the bill for our over stretched infrastructure this influx has caused. Or better still since the USSR f_cked their economies in the first place maybe the Russians should cough up some oil cash?

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      • 125
        Earl of Croydon says:

        Then when these Romanians,Bulgarians, Poles and various Muslim immigrants get old we will have to pay entirely for their care as they wont have a British pot to piss in.
        My god we are going to the wall.

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        • 135
          Living in 96.99% white Merseyside says:

          Even those in South Croydon, Purley Oaks, Purley and Coulsdon North?

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        • 156
          New veggie f..ked taxpayer says:

          There is so much ill health in this lot (2 ambulances await the nightly Pakstan plane at Manchester, the rest taxi to the nearest GP to start the benefit ball rolling) that there will need to be a third wave to wash their sh*t away in their care homes coming your way. By the time of any referendum, how many more will be here and it will take years to pull away from the EU. Can we at least f*ck off the Human Rights stuff for now and ship out some?

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  19. 42
    Arse says:

    What strange times we live in. People paying for their own care in old age with the capital from their homes is now considered “socialist”. Right-wingers think the State should pay instead!

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    • 47
      Common Sense says:

      People paying taxes for care that is then denied them is the “socialist” bit.

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      • 62
        rebekah aka nellnewman says:

        +100

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      • 66
        It's been done before by government's and this one is no diffrent despite the spin says:

        The solution is easy….you spend all your money having a good time whilst you can; own no property and have no savings….the state then pays for everything. If you’ve been prudent;saved and own your own property then you’ll pay until everything is gone…….the government has already given people with savings a taste of how pointless saving is by their Quantitive Easing Scam

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        • 74
          Quis custodiet says:

          How about:
          1: You save for a rainy day. Putting money in housing has been an excellent investment
          2: If you need expensive support at the end of your life, that saving will go to looking after you – presumably exactly why you saved in the first place
          3: Anything left over goes to your kids

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          • Quis custodiet says:

            and to be clear, I want low taxes and personal responsibility. None of these taxes and benefits to protect children’s inheritance.

            My preferred solution would be to sell the house entirely and have no limit to what goes to care costs.

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          • CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

            QC(IC)
            That would be the most sensible option. It does look like the current “system” is designed as another subsidy to rent-seekers.

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          • Sir Jimmy Saveloy says:

            I just wanted your kids.

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        • 88
          JH23487387324 says:

          Another solution is have your savings in physical Gold, in your possession. Not only will it appreciate in value relative to toilet paper fiat currency, but it can be kept totally secret from the cannibalistic lust of the state.

          When you want to pass an inheritance to your kids, it comes in the form of a heavy briefcase.

          The state can fucking whistle if it thinks it is getting a cut of savings that have already been taxed at source, as well as getting a cut of the interest in the meantime.

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  20. 43
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Have Alan Johnson and Andy Burnham resigned yet?

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    • 50
      Labour says:

      Stafford was Thatcher’s fault.

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      • 63
        Living in 96.99% white Merseyside says:

        Wasn’t everything Maggie Thatcher’s fault? Even her policies like privatisation and sale of council homes which I agreed with at the time are now haunting us what with energy bills and a shortage of social housing.

        Well, for the indigenous Brits that is.

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        • 96
          CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

          Well selling council houses should have been used to build more. Most of the costs of housing is the land, and the cost jumps when planning permission is granted, so councils should just grant themselves permission to build and allow a few to be built (and sold) privately in order to fund the others being built.

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        • 98
          CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

          Privatisation did lower costs it just didn’t go far enough. Where local monopolies are unavoidable the government went with the option that was best for bureaucrats not the people who were in the monopolies. Another state failure.

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        • 161
          V1le Labour set to cripple Britain says:

          A shortage of social housing says the comment above. Over £100BN from councils and government combined going into housing, rents up and employment up as a result. Sounds to me like we should be looking to make sure everywhere is a shopping paradise and full of outdoor day-trip centred areas as possible, such as the golf courses, country parks, racecourses and spa hotels. We should not cover all of these with homes. But I forgot, Labour opposes natural (earnt) redistribution of wealth. You have a point about farmland however, especially that of inferior fertility.

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    • 90
      The International Court of the Vague says:

      More to the point, why are they not under arrest?

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      • 134
        Anonymous says:

        What a coicidence! I was thinking exactly the same about all of those mp’s & noble(?) members of the HoL from 1997 to the present day that have not been arrested & charged under criminal law for their thieving from the parliamentary trough.

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  21. 53
    you couldn't make it up says:

    Standing back and laughing. As a true English man, my decision is made, time to get the F*ck out of this socialist utopia. Enjoy paying all your tax over to the EU, foreigners and work shy.

    BYE

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    • 61
      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      Yes but where to go? Anywhere in the EU is in worse state than us. America teeters on the economic brink. Australia has a socialist government and isn’t doing any better.

      There’s always Canada but a bit cold much of the time or africa but the crime rate’s pretty awful across the continent as a whole and much of it is too rough to live in..

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      • 75
        Living in 96.99% white Merseyside says:

        Didn’t someone on this blog mention Uruguay? Forget Australia and Canada. Places like Sydney and Toronto have as many nationalities living there as Londistan has.

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        • 95
          JH23487387324 says:

          Yup, Montevideo is supposed to be a really buzzing little place. I might visit for a couple of weeks this year to check it out.

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        • 113
          Cynical-old-bag says:

          Yes, they probably do, but the difference is that only people with the right qualifications were allowed in. They also had to have a sponsor living in the host country and they had to prove that they could support themselves financially.

          I know this because my husband and I applied to go to Australia. Unfortunately, we were 2 years over the age limit.

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          • ?..? says:

            Last time I investigated that idea the Ozzies wanted a deposit of A$600,000 just for the permit! With that sort of number I could go to OZ, get a standard 6 month stay visa on entry, rent a nice sea view flat somewhere, when the five and half month date is reached, bugger off to Singapore for a couple of weeks, and then fly back and repeat the cycle. That way I get all the benefits and get to keep my 600 grand spending money.

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          • ?..? says:

            PS: If you ask nicely, the Oz High Commission will give you a 12 month multi-entry visa free which enable you to come and go until it expires. Then once again repeat the cycle. Zere are vays….

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      • 91
        lucky country says:

        Australia to kick the Red Witch out soon.

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      • 110
        Casual Observer says:

        If you do not want socialism, try Russia.

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  22. 68
    T T T T Talking about m m my generation says:

    I hope I die before I get old.

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    • 102
      CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

      “Home ownership declines but more people have paid off their mortgages”

      Er until you’ve paid your mortgage you don’t really own it.

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  24. 82
    it's later than you think says:

    New Zealand looks nice

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    • 94
      Yes Yes Yes To Plain Packs says:

      Is any country a particularly nice place to be a rich dead person?

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    • 150
      ?..? says:

      It is – apart from the odd earthquake now and then, but similar problems to Oz in getting a permanent residence permit. So try the same wangle as explained above.

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  25. 83
    shurdy rover says:

    Out of his depth and over here! Bring back Balls…

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  26. 92
    Yes Yes Yes To Plain Packs says:

    I strive to keep all my wealth when I’m dead. What better time to enjoy the fruits of a lifetime of striving.

    I’m building a tax-free sarcophagus in the Turks and Carcass Islands for that very purpose.

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  27. 97
    YorkshireLad says:

    Talk about the longest suicide note in history, this is turning into a multi-volume epic.

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  28. 100
    Anonymous says:

    As I mentioned in a previous blog topic, it really does take a very special kind of wanker to get to a situation whereby after 3 years in power, you’re still increasing the national debt by about £100billion/year, and yet at the same time you’ve got no growth.

    Massive national debt increase, probably around half a trillion increase since the tories got into power, but still no growth, and no hope of growth in the future, not even fake state-funded gordon-brown-style growth.

    We’re heading down the same path that Brown was leading us down, the only difference is that this liberal/lefty/labour-style “tory” government is taking us down that path in a much more painful and long/drawn-out way.

    We need Cameron and Osborne replaced, and a general election called.

    This “coalition” government is actually worse than labour was (and after having 13 years of the bonkers brown moron in charge of the economy, I never thought I’d say that, but I think it’s true)

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  29. 104
    Geordieboy says:

    Get rid of Cameron and Osborne before the next election and we may still have a chance. Milliband and Balls government is unthinkable.

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    • 114
      Anonymous says:

      “Milliband and Balls government is unthinkable”

      I used to think that too, but then I started thinking that at least they’d get it over and done with and put the economy out of its misery within a couple of months rather than allowing it to limp on for another 2 to 3 years in total stagnation before finally killing it.

      We’re getting nowhere; the debt’s still increasing hugely, but the whole economy has no growth prospects whatsoever with Cameron/Osborne in charge. I’d rather get it over and done with quickly.

      Either replace cameron and osborne with someone who actually knows what they’re doing, or let labour have another go so we can all go abroad for a year just prior to the election and then come back again when our national debt’s been written-off by china.

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      • 152
        A quarrel in a far away country between people of whom we know nothing says:

        You’ll need to learn Mandarin on your return so you can beg with a chance of being understood. But to be honest I suspect your right the only option now is total melt down and rebuild into a very different nation.

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  30. 109
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    As I’ve said before, if we have to sell our houses to pay for our respite care, just where is this £20,000 going to come from?

    Thin air?

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  31. 129
    Sid the pocket snake says:

    Really when it comes right down to it, politicians do not care a flying f*ck for any of us. No politician from any party cares even thought they come on TV so poo faced and championing their political cause they just don’t care at all; they are politicians for their own self serving, money grabbing selves and will help each other out at the drop of a hat as many of them know that they would sink in the real world of work and living outside the political boxes they compartmentalise themselves in.
    Just look at the Stafford Hospital report, all the politicians want f*ck all to do with it, when they have all been in positions of power to change things for the better but they cannot be arsed and all the blame for the years of incompetence and waste of money lands on the shoulders of some poor health sap put in power by politicians.
    When you realise this, it is an almost freeing feeling, for if they do not care a fig for us, I don’t for them, any of them anymore.

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  32. 130
    Jimmy says:

    You mean Tarquin and Jemima will have to earn their own money instead of waiting for Mummy and Daddy to croak? You’d think a government led by posh kids would understand.

    This is an outrage!

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  33. 131
    Hang The B@stards says:

    I didn’t think I would ever see someone in my lifetime more incompetent than Gordon Brown.

    Then along walks George Osbrown !

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  34. 132
    CL says:

    And the cap doesn’t cover food or accomodation? What does it cover?

    The Tories have become quite the embarrassment. More interested in Gay Marriage than deaths at Mid Staff Hospital. Actually thinking a tax on sausage rolls and pasties was a GOOD idea?

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  35. 138
    Socialism = starvation says:

    Osborne couldn’t cut himself shaving.

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  36. 140
    Tally Ho! A hunting we will go. says:

    They must all be mad alienating conservative voters. I can’t believe any of them but will vote for UKIP first chance I get.

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  37. 142
    Vacant Possession says:

    We all know Gordon Brown spent the last days of his government (if you want to call it that) seeding Quango’s with his anointed brethren.

    What I hadn’t realised was he’d seeded the conservative party too, with a socialist ‘liberal’ chancellor and an a Brownian puppet Prime Minister.

    Well done Gordon! I bet you never dreamed you’d be so successful in absentia.

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  38. 159
    multiculturalissimo says:

    Great pic of Gordon Osborne, couldn’t be more apt.

    The tories are dead, long live UKIP.

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