February 8th, 2013

Labour Ally Proposes Secret EU Budget Vote

The lengths MEPs will go to prevent transparency and usurp democracy never ceases to surprise Guido. The European Parliament is proposing to employ the unusual procedure of a secret ballot to prevent us from knowing which ways MEPs voted. Quite how they can justify not telling the public how they are voting when around £1 trillion of taxpayers’ money is at stake only Martin Schulz knows. Needless to say he is threatening to block the potential budget reduction as well…

Schulz, along with the po-faced Joseph Daub, is the centre-left President of the EP. Despised by colleagues for being one of the only MEPs allowed to claim his allowance without providing evidence he actually turned up for work, Schulz used to lead the Labour grouping in Europe and is still closely allied to the party.

Labour MEPs usually side with him on most matters in the EP,  but will surely they wouldn’t stoop this low? Would they?

UPDATE: Still nothing from Labour, but Dave has criticised the move this afternoon:

“I find it baffling. You send members to parliament, they vote, you see how they vote. I think that’s what parliaments are all about. When it comes to money it’s even more important to see how people are voting…I don’t understand secret ballots, parliaments should be open and transparent and people should be held accountable for how they vote.”


  1. 1
    Labour says:

    Oh yes we would.

  2. 2
    Dolly Parton sleeping on her back says:

    Hello boys

  3. 3

    The stooped low enough to shoo in the Mental one, after Bliar had left, to spend more time with his money.

  4. 4
    Duty Pedant says:

    …but will surely they wouldn’t…

    Written by Bennie from Crossroads?

  5. 5
    Bennie says:

    Miss Diane, she do say.

  6. 6
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Schulz is very close to German European federal socialism of the 1930’s.

    Ein volk, ein reich, ein fuhrer.

    Vote UKIP – stop British money ending up in the pockets of fanatics like Schulz.

  7. 7
    Red Egg Millitit.....oh nooooo says:

    Kim Jong-un is so proud of them :)

  8. 8
    The Libor party says:

    A vote for ukip is a vote for us :)

  9. 9
    Ed Miliband says:

    The EU conforms to my beliefs of ‘One Nation’ so stoop so low, we will. See you in 2015 when i shall give further powers away to the EU and demand that we give them more money for the priviledge.

  10. 10
    National Physics Laboratory says:

    As every politician including the Tories now are all left of centre, we are going to reset the description of centre.

    Please can everyone recalibrate their equipment.

  11. 11
    WVM says:

    He is scary – why have the German people not recognised the parallels in what Schulz desires for Euorpe and what the National Socialists wanted for Europe?

    It is the fourth reich – Germany, for fucks sake wake up.

  12. 12
  13. 13
    WVM says:

    A vote for Dave is a vote for Blue Labour and more EU.

    No thanks. I am voting for anyone that is not part of the Lib Lab Con nexus of pro EU federalist scumbags.

  14. 14
    Lard Pressclott of Beams, Bellies, Banjos, Bulimia, two bog seats, two Jags & Shags. says:

    I’ve got a diary secretary who recalibrates my equipment.

  15. 15
    Paniagua says:

    Well actually it’s not, but you may get back in because of it – fundamental difference

    Vote UKIP – Send a rather large message to the lickspittle LibLabCon parasites and get Labour

    Vote Tory – Get Labour

    Vote Labour – Get Labour

    Its to late now for the Tory party to redeem themselves in time for the next GE

  16. 16
    Red Ed's non-predator union bosses says:

    Excellent !

  17. 17
    Whoops says:

  18. 18
    Ah! Monika 2013 +1 says:

    That’s why he’s smelling his finger!

  19. 19
    Still my favourite PMQs moment says:

    It’s a wonder Ian Lavery has the nerve to still show his face in the house.

  20. 20
    Occupy Movement says:

    Occupy Peanuts

  21. 21
    Hornpipe says:

    Take a look at this to see how schule plays everyone along, there has to be a stop to all this soon.


  22. 22
    The loathesome Liebour Party says:

    Self-serving expediency is what we do.

  23. 23
    Diary Secretary says:

    I’m an expert in nano manipulation

  24. 24
    Hugh Janus says:


  25. 25
    Albert Hall says:

    I’m flummoxed.

  26. 26
    Herman van Rompuy says:

    This website is publishing seditious anti-EU propaganda. It will be dealt with.

  27. 27
    Gideon Das Boot Commander says:

    Dive Dive Dive

  28. 28
    Stuart Hall says:

    I’m accused.

  29. 29
    Shire Tory says:

    Another fat left wing twat with a beard!

  30. 30
    Labour=Waste says:

    Never underestimate the ability of Labour to conspire with Eurocrats, they might be in different carriages but they’ve all got first class tickets on the EU gravy train.

  31. 31
    Labour=Waste says:

    I’d rather eat a Findus Frozen Lasagne than try Ed Balls’s reheated bullshit.

  32. 32
    Paniagua says:

    Its the béchamel sauce I would be worried about not the meat.

  33. 33
    Pray for me says:

    Starving in preparation for an endoscopy later.

    So hungry, I could eat a dead horse.

  34. 34
    Harry Hall says:

    I’m a C*nt

  35. 35
    EU Watch says:

    Cameron should veto until an EU audit has been passed.

    The EU is a risk to UK national security and economic interests.

    Meet Marting Schultz:

  36. 36
    Andy Burnham says:

    I can out stoop anyone.

  37. 37
    DeMille says:

    Wasn’t Martin Schulz the guy that Berlusconi offered a cameo role in a WW2 movie as a camp guard?

  38. 38
    Andy Burnham says:

    Can I have my picture taken with you?

  39. 39
    Ed Balls says:

    It’s vegetarian lasagne, made from scratch– I’m not getting drawn into THAT one! (and no jokes about “Here, Scratch! Here, boy!”, FFS!!!)

    Sayeeda Warsi could eat it and not have any problem!

  40. 40
    Hitler´s Moustache says:

    How do you know it´s HIS finger?

  41. 41
    Bugler Bert says:

    $cultz is a power-mad poltroon of the worse kindn- money and power are his gods; Is it true that his grandfather was a certain H Himmler…….

  42. 42
    EU Funded Pro EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP.

  43. 43

    Not elected

    Not Audited

    Not Accountable

    ..and Tony B£iar still aims to be President

    Orwell would be proud

  44. 44
    Engineer says:

    Can we have a secret ballot on the future of the EU, please?

  45. 45
    Postal Votes are Labour Loo Paper says:

    FFS, and politicians wonder why we hate the EUSSR and the scum that infest it.

  46. 46
    Anonymous says:

    It’s Joseph Daul, not Daub. And Presidents of the European Parliament retain their party affiliation – the job is shared around between the political groups quite blatantly. (As are most of the senior official posts.)

  47. 47
    Engineer says:

    No. It was a camel role, and Schulz took the hump.

  48. 48

    I fully accept charges that I may have been overindulging and thus have caused overdue wear to my eyesight, but is Schulz not that guy in the Farage videos who is laughing to such an extent that one could almost believe he was onside?

  49. 49
    EU Watch says:

    Bloom was booted from the EU Parliament (24 Nov 2010) after calling Martin Schulz, leader of the assembly’s Socialist bloc, an “undemocratic fascist” and shouting “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer”.

    Fair comment: National Socialism is Socialism.

  50. 50
  51. 51
    Grow a backbone says:

    Lib Lab Con are one party. The EU party.

    UKIP is the only way out.

    The real referendum will be the General Election in 2015, not David Cameron’s jam tomorrow promise. You’ve lost your credibility Dave!

  52. 52
    Schultz Watch says:

    No, he’s the creepy evil one you wouldn’t anywhere near children or vulnerable adults.

  53. 53
  54. 54
    Obama says:

    Depends, on what’s in it for me.

  55. 55
    Oberfeldwebel Johannes Schultz, Stalag XIII, says:

    I wasn’t “camp,” I was a quite masculine guard, thank you!

  56. 56
    Labourunionsbbc we are one under the EU says:

    Don’t know if this has been posted before:

    Britain is planning to leave military equipment worth more than £2billion in Afghanistan when it withdraws from the war.

    Around 40 per cent of hardware – including up to 1,200 protected trucks and personnel carriers – will be scrapped, sold or given away by the Ministry of Defence.

    Military chiefs are preparing to bring home 6,500 containers of kit from the frontline. But some 4,500 loads will remain in the warzone.


  57. 57
    The ICC says:

    The Rome Statute, Article 7(1): Crimes Against Humanity


    Precedent: Action T4

  58. 58
    Denis MacShameless says:

    He’s shameless.

  59. 59
    Engineer says:

    Have you by any chance been talking to a bloke called Blair?

  60. 60

    Spoken like someone who doesn’t do joined up thinking without his carer present.

    UKRAP have no chance, no morals and no aim in life other than the power to trough at the Westminster piggery.

    A vote for Crash Bandicoot and his merry band of irrelevants IS very definitely a vote for RetardEd Militwat and even more socialist misery.

    I think you are a Milwank Tower troll – even you can’t be that dumb. Oh, hang on…… yes, you can, it’s official.

  61. 61
    Lard Prescott says:

    I’ll have one of those as well.

    Cut its mane off, wipe its arse and stick it in a ciabatta will you.

  62. 62
    Great British Public says:

    No thanks.

  63. 63

    Horse shit, direct from UKRAP HQ, the party of EU subsidised horse shit.

  64. 64
    Anonymous says:

    Schultz is an alcoholic ex-bookseller.
    The fact that he wields such power is truly scary.

  65. 65
    Afghanistan Watch says:

    That was probably agreed with Karza! in part when he was over earlier this week.

    It is normal to leave a large amount of kit behind, damaged redundant stuff which is not worth bringing back.

    The large amount this time will likely include a ‘donation’ to the new Afghan government of equipment it will use to maintain security once NATO withdraws.

    The US is doing roughly the same, and also giving some extra.

    If the Afghan government cannot defend itself, then they will be ousted by the Tal!ban immediately and back to square one.

    This way will slow the Tal!ban down and help form stability for a period of time long enough that when things fall apart again it cannot be blamed on the NATO withdrawal.

  66. 66
    Disco Biscuit says:

    That picture looks a bit odd. Where’s his finger been, do you think?

  67. 67
    Paniagua says:

    So tell us, who should we vote for?

  68. 68
    Keith Vaz-o-line says:

    And me

  69. 69
    Obama says:

    Depends, who’s asking? Do you represent law enforcement?

  70. 70
    Paniagua says:

    Unless the Taliban get hold of it that is !

  71. 71
    lojolondon says:

    Vote for anyone except ConLieLimpDim.

    That means UKIP!!

  72. 72
    Anonymong says:

    Don’t vote. Choose insurrection.

  73. 73
    lojolondon says:

    Classic! Much as I despise Brave Dave, he nailed that one! See Cooper checking the colour of her pants as the camera pans to the opposition benches!

  74. 74
    Anonymong says:

    Dear Herman,
    As with Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin and Brezhnev your controlling, fascist and totalitarian regime will be overthrown.

    Make as many threats as you wish.

    You will fail.

  75. 75
    Anonymong says:

    There is definitely an aroma of Operation Ore about him.

  76. 76
    DeMille says:

    Boom Boom!

  77. 77
    Voice of reason says:

    Schulz doesn’t like it up him does he.

    What a loser.

  78. 78
  79. 79
    David B says:

    Well their party leader has dropped them in it, their harts says get an increase but their party says we need to look good in the press. A private vote solves the problem!

  80. 80
    Afghanistan Watch says:

    ‘This way will slow the Tal!ban down and help form stability for a period of time long enough that when things fall apart again it cannot be blamed on the NATO withdrawal.’

    – You have hit precisely upon my point ;-)

  81. 81
    Anonymous says:

    What I find dificult to understand is the failure by the Cameron devotees to reaise how devastating the 13% UKIP figure is. Now Tory or LibDem ego’s may well be masarged by a victory at Eastliegh but the result will have no significant effect on this parlement. The real issue for the Tories is that even if the UKIP vote were to halve before 2015 it would still torpedo any chance of a Tory victory. Now it cannot be denied that the UKIP vote is growing in spite of the desperate slur campagn against it by the other parties and the media and I can see no obvious reason for this growth to subside. This election is a sideshow and the Tories need to wake up or face oblivion in the not too distant future

  82. 82
    Labour...filth...just filth says:

    we never fail to stoop low enough unless it suits us better to bend over backwards to take this one nation forward

  83. 83
    Go get 'em Guidio says:

    I see the Fascists are back in power in the EU

  84. 84

    lojolondon – your medication is wearing off – tell your handler at Milwank that he needs to dose up another banana and throw it into your favourite hanging tyre.

  85. 85

    What can I tell you, Paniagua?

    I am just a very naughty boy.

  86. 86
    Labour...filth...just filth says:

    they are powerless to bring ukip back into the fold as the disaffected ‘out of the eu’ mantra continues….. nor are they likely to as the general opinion of the political process in the uk remains so low.

    ukip in power unlikely…another coalition probable…the winner in all this labour by default with no constructive input and the same worn rhetoric.

  87. 87
    Chris Huhne says:

    I’m guilty.

  88. 88
    The Old Toymaker says:

    I think that he’s trying to stop his nose growing.

  89. 89
    pissed off voter says:

    I thought Andy Burnham was dead.

  90. 90
    Anonymous says:

    Does Baroso always busy himself writing notes & pretending he is not interested with hearing anything said by Farage?
    Does he ever listen to any other speaker?

  91. 91
    Dave says:

    ‘course you can, in 2117.

  92. 92
    Point of information says:

  93. 93
    Anonymous says:

    The EU Budget Prognosis

    Said Dave “I’m off to Europe to ensure they cut the budget
    If me and Merkle both collude I know that we can fudge it
    I’ll come home draped in glory, we’ll gain lots more vote for sure
    The voters just wont realise that we’ll be paying more”

    Alas poor Dave don’t realise that voters aren’t that dim
    Unlike the Tory faithful there not taken in by him
    The UKIP vote will turf him out we know they marked his card
    This Cameron and Merkle scam is simply a charade

    And once mass immigration comes here early on next year
    The cut backs and the bedroom tax will stoke the Tory fear
    They’ll see just what a large amount of votes that UKIP stole
    And be haunted by the prospect of a future on the dole


  94. 94
    Sueth Sayer says:

    … and that may just be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. If that does happen, the Tottenham/Croydon etc riots will seem like a picnic in the park. We Brits are a mighty tolerant lot and fair play is in our veins, but if we get pushed too far the reaction will be extremely volatile.

  95. 95
    Sueth Sayer says:

    Ed, see my comment just above this. You will be one of very first up against the wall – unless you manage to get away back to Poland or Russia or wherever your family came from before the mob find you..

  96. 96
    Matilda says:

    I am glad to see Nigel give him as good as he gets. Seems to be the only one in the house to stand up to this fat German bullyboy.

  97. 97
    Matilda says:

    Hermy, If you learned to speak proper English you would know the word is “delicious” and not what you said.

  98. 98
    Matilda says:

    Yes and No.

  99. 99
    Matilda says:

    With a bit of luck he will soon be in another world as a result of a heart attack.

    Where are the wet ops lads when you need them? Or the IRA? or a demented suicide bo*ber

  100. 100
    Matilda says:

    So where would Bliar and Camoron fit on that spectrum?

  101. 101
    ex- Sgt-Major Curly says:

    Well let’s face it we won’t need it any more as we’ll have no squaddies left to operate any of it after Camerloon’s military cuts.

  102. 102
    Ho hum says:

    Their harts? I hope none of them has ended up in my latest pack of burgers. That would be just too much to bear [geddit?]

  103. 103
    Ho hum says:

    Where have you been hiding for the past 40 years?

  104. 104
    And so say all of us says:

    … and the quicker the better.

  105. 105
    Anonymous says:

    The EU Budget Prognosis

    Said Dave “I’m off to Europe to ensure they cut the budget
    If me and Merkle both collude I know that we can fudge it
    I’ll come home draped in glory, we’ll gain lots more vote for sure
    The voters just wont realise that we’ll be paying more”

    Alas poor Dave don’t realise that voters aren’t that dim
    Unlike the Tory faithful there not taken in by him
    The UKIP vote will turf him out we know they marked his card
    This Cameron and Merkle scam is simply a charade

    And once mass immigration comes here early on next year
    The cut backs and the bedroom tax will stoke the Tory fear
    They’ll see just what a large amount of votes that UKIP stole
    And be haunted by the prospect of a future on the dole


  106. 106
    TONYBLAIR says:


  107. 107
    Labour...filth...just filth says:

    I don’t see riots at all but I do see a disillusioned public sucker punched into the labour narrative and if they can’t stomach voting labour voting ukip as a combined ‘up yours’ and as a gesture of complete frustration in getting any government to effect meaningful radical changes in strategy,

    The reality remains that political parties say a lot of things prior to elections that once they are faced with the real task of governing a country like ours are found to be flawed in concept or practical application. The tories are trying to satisfy such a wide stream of support they inevitably cannot please every audience…sometimes it would appear..any audience but that is the cost of being in power.

    Imagine what a mess we would be in now were Gordon to be still in No 10 and the sheer expedient hypocricy running at full tilt.

  108. 108
    Paniagua says:

    Yep, thought as much

  109. 109
    Aaron says:

    Most votes in the EP are secret. Only if there is a roll call vote is the list of how politicians voted mad public. It is a secretive practice all groups make us. The idea that their voters know what they are voting for is a dangerous Anglo idea. What next?

  110. 110
    Chris S says:

    Let’s wait to see the small print.

    This could be just like a typical Gordon Brown Budget : eventually when published, the details might tell a completely different story from the one told in the speech.

    I want to see how much expenditure has been moved “off budget”

    It could be billions.

  111. 111
    Rt Hon CNUT says:

    White Y-fronts with pink piping

  112. 112
    PC Dixon says:

    Nasty piece of shit!

  113. 113
    Swollen Glands says:

    and you think that doesn’t apply to the likes of Dave ?????

  114. 114
    Demetrius Skortou says:

    There is going to be a Fourth Reich, that will eventually emerge from the EU.

    What those bought & paid for EU politicians want the British people to accept is; a Euro defence force, police force, a euro-wide intelligence service, control of all our taxes, schools, hospitals, transport infrastructure, environment.

    In fact, anything that moves in Britain, those criminals who own & run the EU will want to control everything in our country.

    We were lied to & cheated by Edward Heath and all the other Prime Ministers, since “73”. Heath conned us all into beliveing, we were just joining a free trade movement; the Common Market, which a majority of the Britiish people decided to join & remain in.

    After the signing of all those bogus EU agreements & treatys, the British people now know (to their cost) that we have all been railroaded into a United States of Europe, which is exactly what the American establishment wanted (the 1946 US Marshall Plan) & Adolf Hitler.

    Waiting 7 years for an in/out referendum on the EU, if David Cameron wins the next election, is a waste of time.

    The reality is, we will never get an in/out referendum on the EU.
    In 7 years time, so much more powers would of been handed to those dictators within the EU, making a referendum,———- null & void!!!

    WE need a referendum now, not in 7 years time!!!!!

    Demetrius Skortou

  115. 115
    Demetrius Skortou says:

    I believe that the 7/7 London bombings were part of a long running secret covert war, instigated and planned by US black operations groups, who set up bogus/manufactured terrorist cell networks, using muslim & other extremists to plant bombs in the UK. The result of which had nothing to do with getting our troops out of Iraq, but to force these politicians to sign away Great Britain’s total sovereignty, & other powers, to the European Union, (EU) over the last 40 years.

    The EU itself, actually stems from the 1946 US Marshall Plan. Some of those within the American establishment wanted Britain dragged into a one European Nation State, which is exactly what Adolf Hitler wanted.

    It takes a lot to set up efficient & successful terrorist cell networks. You need; secret rich powerful backers. equally secret bank accounts, set up, through phoney company names. A regular supply of; guns, food, medical supplies, water, internal/external liaison officers, security officers, governments that allow terrorist type training bases and instructors to teach these bombers how to construct and detonate these explosives.

    I am certain that we are not dealing with muslims who actually planned these bombings on 9/11 & 7/7, but, outsiders, very clever creative thinkers. After all, muslims pray 5 times a day, how on earth are they supposed to be able to conduct & plan these terrorist atrocities against us?

    Of course, it was muslims who actually planted these bombs, but I believe, a black operation group, did the planning.

    Terrorism in its self, never actually achieves anything. Most certainly, the intelligence services have benefited out of acts of terrorism, with more laws, rules & regulations, (including 4.2 million CCTV Cameras) that have been handed to the security forces, which in turn, has taken more of our individual freedoms & liberties away from the people.

    False Flag Terrorism is very difficult to prove, however, with the total lapse of our border controls (which I also believe has been a deliberate policy to actually allow these planning & terrorist groups into our country) It has made acts of terrorism much easier for these people to murder innocent men, women & children.

    I cannot believe that all this lapse in security at our borders is just an accident or a coincidence.

    No amount of CCTV cameras, is going to stop someone from exploding bombs on a bus, train or on the underground.

    Yours Sincerely,

    Demetrius Skortou

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