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Ed Balls stretches credulity by claiming he isn’t ambitious…
“I would love to be part of Ed’s Labour government but what I do next for me is not an all-consuming passion. I’m more bothered, in a personal sense, about getting to grade 8 piano by the time I’m 50.”

Ned Flanders – Clegg
Lisa Simpson – Natalie Bennett
Milhouse – Hilary Benn
Martin Prince – Andy Burnham
Edna Krabappel – Luciana Berger
Crazy Cat Lady – Glenda jackson
Comic book guy – John Prescott
Carl – Chucka
Lenny – Philip Hammond
Willie – Eric joyce
Poochie – Gordon Brown
Reverend Lovejoy – Tony Blair




Bedroom tax in the HoC ? FFS.
Partial Removal of a subsidy = A Tax??
What colour is the sky in Labour’s LalaLand?
Repeating the lie makes it true. Doesn’t it ?
Social housing ? There isn’t much of that left.
And Labour increased the number of disabled military with !raq etc.
Social Housing is an Oxymoron.
IMHO. It’s for the anti-social.
Chinese censoring Dave Cee tories Britland, council houses were built with government money. In 60′s these houses cost less than £3,000 to build, still councils are losing money. If you take the full cost, social housing is not cheap as people think, it waste loads of money.
“Private renting is a licence to print money.”
It’s only a licence to print money if you import millions of homeless people and distort the housing market. Something the Labour party and coalition have done and are doing regardless of it’s negative effect on the British people.
Population Replacement and Ethnic Cleansing are crimes against humanity according to the UN, so when is a politician responsible for it, going to be arrested?
Few private landlords make any money out of rent receipts. I know, I am one. It’s also a lot of work, unless you pay lots of money for a letting agent to pretend to manage the property. Instead, we hope that the value of the property will be a hedge against inflation and might even, if we’re very lucky, give us a windfall (taxable) profit one day.
Few private landlords make any money out of rent receipts, as I know from my own experience. It’s also a lot of work, unless you pay high fees to an agent to pretend to manage the property. Instead, we hope that the property will hold its value in real terms and might, if we’re lucky, give us a windfall taxable profit some day.
Calm down, Tranquilo
We represent MPs of all colours
I’m with Sir William. If only it was the easy ride most commentators seem to think it is. Especially if you are dealing with ‘clients’ on benefits.
Like the community charge was not a poll tax. Trying telling those who have to pay it. Tories losing voter appeal all over the show under DC
I would like to se Chukka on the undatables
Has Andy Burnham resigned yet?
He should resign, this Stafford debacle happened on his watch !
Or maybe the new programme ‘The Unelectables’
There is not enough small properties to move them. What government is doing should have done years and years ago. But at this time is the wrong time as it will end up costing more when people are moved to bed and breakfast and kept there.
What’s wrong with a lodger?
.. if you can find an honest one…
You have to wonder at the intelligence of Ed Milliband, by parroting “bedroom tax” he is making himself look extremely foolish, do you think his advisers do it on purpose ?
You have to wonder at Ed Millibands grasp of things, if he calls it a tax.
Surely it’s those of us not on benefits who pay for these spare rooms through our tax
So Cameron is actually getting rid of the “Bedroom Tax”
Gideon looks high as a kite.
I worry about that boy.
Mid Staffs = Liverpool Pathway 4All!
NHS, Worst quality of treatment, funded in the worst possible way.
Aneurin Bevan, Killed more British people than ze Germans
This x100
NH Shambles bureaucracy nearly killed me…shut it down.
And yet our NHS suddenly becomes marvellous when we hear of our citizens, who happen to be abroad, having to have treatment in places like Spain or Greece for example.
Totally untrue. Spanish health-care is superb and efficient. Hardly any waiting lists, immaculately clean hospitals and pleasant staff. The Brits love it.
ditto, Germany
ditto France.
The sanctimonious drivel from both Cameron and Miliband is nauseating.
I can certainly vouch for Kraut hospitals – bloody marvellous
Only thing with Spain is that they expect the family to do many of the little things for the patient – i.e. to actually be there a lot of the time
Something we are not accustomed to culturally
.. and Singapore and Malaysia (especially in the private sector, although the public sector is also very acceptable).
Let’s not forget that it is actually nurses who fail to provide basic care. Nurses are usually regarded as immune to criticism, whereas nobody likes beastly bureaucrats; nor do hospitals actually seem to be short of nurses, if the gaggles of chattering people milling around most NHS wards are anything to go by. We might need more doctors and orderlies and fewer ‘angels’.
Precisely.
We need old fashioned Matrons on regular patrol – the ladies who REALLY ran the hospitals back in the day.
You know exactly who everybody is do you willie ?
I eneded up in a Polish hospital in a small town it made ours look something from Victorian times.
Clean and staff were great.
When people start going to jail and or lose their jobs we might get a good NHS
I have family living in France, Spain and Poland.
Health care in every one of those countries has been far superior
in every way to ours.
I cant understand why relatives and staff didnt kick up an almighty fuss as it was happening, its all very strange.
is chris huhne feeling a new man?
Hope he’s working on relaxing his sphincter for HMP
Ed – theres NO. MORE. MONEY. YOU. TIT.
But the City says there will be if we build on every protected green space in England, raise council taxes and employ everyone in do-nothing council office jobs and quangos. We can also have assistant police investigators go after all of the inflammatory posters on here, as is only partially the case. Orwell was 40 years out, we call it 2024.
No one is going to prison.
No one will lose their job.
Imagine if News International had just killed 1200 people through callous & wilful negligence?
I am shocked that not a single manager or consultant will go to prison for the deaths of 1200 people.
R U?
Andy Burnham – how Labour can have any credibility on Health matters whilst that piece of shit is still in a job is beyond me.
Sandra – if Magaers and Consultants would have been found guilty they would have had to take Burnham and the other Labour ideologues out with them.
never going to happen – Labour are above the law.
Burnham championed Stafford and it was under Labour that the red tape, pencil pushing NHS came about. Labour f’d up the NHS with PFI and don’t forget the £15-24 billion wasted on the NHS computer that was dumped before the election….the bas***ds.
X100
Nothing will change because the staff provide a block vote for Labour, and any proposed changes panic the public into thinking we’ll end up with a US system where half the populace can’t afford it. France and Germany seem to have a decent solution – why not copy them.
Its the same with all the public service unions, as soon as any reforms are suggested they start scaremongering massively, its happened with DRs, Nurses, Police, Teachers, Fire men etc over the past year. Its disgraceful really.
The death of 1,200 patients is deemed less important than 3 points on a driving licence!
All part of the plan. Do keep up (without breaking the speed limit of course!)
Of course it is. Apart from the savings on any benefits and pensions, people are very cheap.
Money is another matter entirely.
Its a disgrace, shouldnt it be manslaughter ?
Ed – there’s NO. MORE. MONEY. YOU. TIT.
I agree,
Lesson on taxation to Ed
Will Ed M be demanding a judge led inquiry into the NHS scandal?
Most wives are often in bed?
Perhaps Militwat could ask the mother of two 18 year old squaddies why they can’t pay their way? But seeing he equstes the non-spunking of money to a tax I suspect he won’t.
Correct they have to pay when in barracks so what is stopping them when at home. When I was a lad my parents made me pay for my room and board and just because they were lower middle class in their own home, it made me appreciate the cost of living later on in my own home. Do all social housing people think their kids should not pay for room and board.
Social housing people on the whole think everyine else should pay for everything for them – example :- Crow the union wallah on circa 130 grand a year plus expenses.
THAT just shows how fucking stupid our train operatives are that they continue to belong to such a corrupt organisation and keep paying their subs. We just have to hope they know the difference between green and red, ans what those colours indicate.
Green is for the District Line. Red is for the Central Line. Crow is a God. Boris is semi-satan. Cameron is death.
Only recently Scargill went to court to demand that the NUM (i think it was them ) still pay rent on a flat in London for him amongst other perks i cant remember, really good socialist !
I laughed out loud when i heard Milliband come out with that at PMQs ! he used his special Millie Dowler type voice as well !
How about VAT on newspapers ???? Premium tax on Sky TV subs, 62″ plasma TVs, holidays in Benidorm etc?
Hey, steady on there.
Not books please. I don’t want to stop buying on Amazon.
If the answer is more taxation, you have asked the wrong question.
Not always, if you want improved services for everyone, a better economy and a living wage for public sector workers then sometimes you have to put fares or taxes up. I’m not responsible for how much our great spokesman Crow takes home but maybe you should regulate union bosses wages also.
Where are the Labour health mob? Has Flabbott eaten Burnham for a snack?
Lessons will be learned and nothing will be done.
This all happened on Labour’s watch so much for the working man.
Will Ed mention the bedroom tax?
All ready done so at least 3 times now.
The fuckwit Ed doesn’t even know the difference between tax and benefit.
NHS patients suffering?
At least they don’t have to suffer listening to Milibland at PMQs
Ed is just avoiding the NHS issue with this bedroom so-called tax bollocks
Miliband’s team had 13 years to implement all the policies he’s just discovered under his sofa cushions. No answer.
Too busy tilting at windmills.
Milicock pissing this – Gov is a shambles.
Thanks Dick, untrue but thanks for the big up.
Stumbling, bumbling, Ed.
Get on with it, lad…
Whatever happened to the men in grey suits? Surely time CMD received a visit?
I watched “The Man in the Grey Flannel Suit” with Gregory Peck and Jennifer Jones last night!
I hope it was the right shade of grey!
Another Ed-ism: ‘Clue is in the title: Prime Minister’s Questions.’
Boody awful performance by Milipede.
Same old pre-scripted…
But Balls was looking confident, he’s actually got the balls to inject some pace into this flailing UK economy, by giving people a living wage.
Why didnt he do it when they were in ?
Fairy god mother ? LOL.
Tired of Ed’s mock shock
Yeah he looks like a Virgin who sees a cock for the fist time, Ball’s cock at that.
Or Yvette’s
More likely one of the Eagle sisters.
Eagle Bros surely!
Tired of that frankenstein look meant to be a smile – sort of – and the unveiling of those tombstone teeth – lots of television exposure of Red Ed will surely turn normal people away from voting for him, well the welfare claimants will keep on voting for the man with the unsustainable money tree of course.
He’s a neo-Keynsian planner and grower, the sort a tory laissez-faire Lord Salisbury crowd would not get.
Sorry, that’s bloody.
Bank levy not enough Cam – crank it up again
My auntie lives in Hull .
What is going to happen to her now ?
That’ll be a wasted journey.
Twatson and Fabbott sitting together on the back bench. I never thought I would ever feel sorry for a bench.
How long have we been re-negotiating the CAP? 40+ years? Good luck.
Are hookers tax deductible in respect of the bedroom tax?
So, like does this mean that they will tax me on the number of bedrooms I have?
Yes if you have any housing benefit for them. Snobs!
Flexibility in agriculture, like bendy banana’s ?
But if you are not in a hospital Cammy thinks it’s ok to kill you off if you have terminal cancer by declaring you fit for work???
WTF has this country become?
Sorry we do not have enough space for a suitable reply.
Leicester??? Fuck off Cam. He belongs in York.
Is it true the police are speaking to the Queen under caution following the discovery of the body of RIchard 111 ?
Guess where they’re gonna bury me?
Maude nicley suppressed a yawn then. 9/10
So Dave is going to the EU to discuss cutting budgets .
He says the discussions will be ” very difficult ” .
I think they will be too because no one there speaks to him .
Why does everyone defend the NHS when it’s clearly a heap of you know what.
Just because you believe in universal healthcare doesn’t mean you have to support a government monopoly on medicine.
Across the entire civilised world, everybody gets treatment and everybody has health cover. Government steps in as a backstop, where mutual societies run through churches, unions etc (and self-payment) does not apply.
The NHS is nobody else’s ideal solution for universal healthcare.
Why have there been no trials for murder?
And I do mean murder, not manslaughter.
No money left?
Is Angela Lansbury morphing into the eagle in the Muppets?
1m extra private sector jobs – yeah right – how many “self employed” getting working tax credits?
‘Decade in which local hospitals were decimated.’ Nice.
Over 400 killed by the NHS over four years ago and still not one prosecution. Why not? If this happened in the private sector those responsible would now be in prison. A clear case of double standards.
Objective figure, no one knows if these people would not have died anyway. All ops carry a risk and because Stafford is under the spotlight it does not mean anyone was culpable. As for the elderly lady drink water from a flower vase, I heard she was suffering from dementia and drank from it even though jugs of water were there for her. But no one cares about the real truth, often only those with a gripe. Should we microscope the entire NHS to see medical ops risk factors and see who unfortunately died even knowing the risks.
And this poor young chap was a raving loon also.
http://tinyurl.com/a3kw85t
Yeah it’s a shame for this Londoner in a London hospital and it shows that care is lacking throughout many NHS hospitals. He was not however a dementia patient at Stafford and if you have ever nursed or been on a ward where a relative is suffering from dementia you will know what the poor patients can do to themselves and others.
It does not detract from the lack of care but it does give a meaning to some of the actions of the dementia patients actions which is seen as staff error rather than the actions of dementia patients who can and do awful things to each other, to others and themselves when staff just turn away for a minute to do another pressing job.
My mother had the misfortune to spend time on a dementia ward due to lack of available bed space and whilst I agree that caring for dementia patients is draining it shouldn’t excuse the cruel and heartless actions by nurses that I personally witnessed on these wards.
They seemed more concerned with yakking and organising their social lives than caring for their patients. This isn’t objective but I’d split them as follows -:
30% – very good
30% – acceptable
40% – slovenly slatterns who should be summarily fired
Oh, and is it part of current nursing requirements to be an overweight slob? Never saw a thin nurse – plenty of fit, young female docs mind.
You have to ask what the relatives were doing when all this was going on, i mean, im not excusing the nurses but you wouldnt sit back, knowing your relative was lying in a wet bed for ages for example, would you ?
No, these were ‘surplus deaths’, beyond what might normally have been expected.
If you want to reduce suicide, sort the economy Cam.
Don’t you mean, Repair the damaged economy as quick as you can, left to us by the Liebour party.
No stop sucking off Cameron. He’s a stingy tosser who doesn’t believe in economic growth.
Is that a euphemism for “spending money we haven’t got?”
Bum sex. We all have it in us.
Colon cancer was always a growth industry
Is that like sticking your tongue on a PP3 battery?
You know it’s wrong……………
What does the NHS Chief Executive SIR David Nicholson do for a living?
Shock horror! Councils acting politically! Only an aristoliberal like Cam would believe otherwise. #CMDindreamland
Most Labour MPs completely obsessed with entitlements paid for by taxpayer
Overseas aid budget. Where do I start? FFS. Cam out. Real tory in please.
By a real Tory I presume you mean one who employs their family or their mistress or house-boy as SPADs at taxpayers expense?
Actually we prefer the Baroness Scotland approach – illegal immigrants – so we don’t have to pay them.
Nice to see the liberals following in the traditions of Jeremy Thorpe!
Has another dog been shot?
I thought is was a bunny.
It’s my job to drive rent boys onto the moor at night
Flynn is one of those teddys from Star Wars.
The one’s called Welsh C’unt?
Obi Mong Kinnochi
Lol like it.
Lorelei Burt-dead man walking
Yeah you’re right, Labour are gonna take Solihull in 2015. And all of the other tory havens, as they want public investment not despair.
…but at £41,450 we start paying 40% Cam you twat
Raising minimum tax threshold would help the economy a lot, and is a dagger close to the heart of Labour.
Yes but what about paying a living wage and reinstating lost public sector jobs?
The late Zac Goldsmith. Good of him to turn up in time.
Chicken rice and da fooking peeeeeeeea!
Oh fuck off Abbott!
Troilist marriage next? Bestial after that? FFS.
Do the seats have extra reinforcement in that area?
Your personal rights about Diane Abbott are ironic given the overweight greedy toffs running the place. And she’s right about equalities. TOO MANY RACISTS etc here.
I see ed ‘ working in progress’ militwit made another hash of pmq’s today banging on about a housing tax when he meant a housing benefit reduction.
He’s not going to convince people that he’s fit to be in charge of the economy when he so publicly displays that he doesn’t know the difference between a tax and a benefit!!
Reducing tax takes money out of the economy.
That new haircut makes her look fatter..
Is that even possible?
No, it’s just the wide angle lens.
Fatbot bending the arc of history: She sat on it.
No I think the tory frontbench did, it’ll soon bend back straight.
Agreed – East Yorks treated like shit in comparison to shouty areas like Scouseland & Londonistan.
How dare you liken our very, very British city of Liverpool with that multi-cultural cesspit that is Londistan.
I almost weep when I see London’s great buildings and institutions and think they are now in a city where white Britons are in the minority.
And I stand shoulder to shoulder with Diane and rejoice in our diversity.
I’ve come to realise that people get the government that they deserve.
Pooves Partnerships, benefits for all, and crooks in parliament. Meanwhile the economy is being stuffed, and foreign dictators subsidised at the expense of our own pensioners.
Maybe sharia law might not be so bad after all.
Strange but true.
Pubic sector still way too big – get on with it FFS.
Thank you for your application Brooks
I hate Labour – those sneering bastards.
They set fire to the house & then have the front to criticise the firebrigade for being late.
Immigrants, public sector workers, postal votes – add Dave Cameron into the mix & you can see these disgusting hypocrits being in power again.
Still, whats the difference – Blue Labour or Red Labour?
Arrr yes the LibLabCon, one arse with two cheeks.
The difference is the rate of decline into oblivion. Red will be faster but then the IMF supervised recovery will start sooner and maybe the debt hole might be a tad smaller.
The IMF are just the looter classes coverup squad.
as are the World Bank.
Actually Carlos is quite refreshing. The writing is on the wall for bigotry and social neo-cons out there. A revitalized Britain awaits!
Come on, Labourites! Spin this as being all the fault of those wicked Tories!
Labour = The truly nasty party.
Labour = Granny killers.
Gillian Duffy was lucky. Gordon Brown only insulted her. Labour killed dozens of other grannies…
“Cogntive behaviour therapy” no doubt paid for by taxpayer. Let the bloody room out dear
The seeat that Goodman sit for as an MP has the highest percentage of benefit claimants in the North of England a thoirdd of them suffering from some mental illness mainly depression it is also has one of the highest Labour majorities in the country,Vote Labour keep the benefits rolling in!
Is he other Milliblot being investigated for match fixing yet?
FFS: Labour and Bedroom tax: FFS.
Cognitive Behavior Therapy: You keep a diary about how crap your life is, and then discuss it with someone to see the positives.
FFS.
There are no positives about living in Bishop Auckland,being thick,lacking ambition and content to live on benefits the rest of your life I could live on 24 quid a week easily ,I bet she spends another 40quid on fags,lottery tickets and the bingo halls,we have to end this benefit?dependent culture once and for all.
Tattoos, piercings, etc.
My fags now come to over fifty quid a week. Still I can afford them with my benefits and pensions.
Going to pop into John Lewis this pm. No need for me to shop at T J Hughes anymore.
‘Cognitive behaviour therapy’ FFS! Well there’s a saving for a start – scrap treatment. Did they have it in the 1920s?
We. are. mad.
MAD.
Dirk spot on I would like to give some of the bloggers on here a tour of the sink estates in the NE its the third world because for far too long succesive governments have been content to dole out the benefit money without tackling the real problem that there are fcukers who just dont want to work,better themselves and their families as long as there are daft b…..ds pay ing for it.
Darras Hall, Jesmond, Gosforth, Tynemouth, Whitley Bay and Benton? Or is it Denton?
Get back to Binns and watching the Rock of Gibraltar crumble just like your fireproof pensions
That last shot of Leibour front row says a lot about their female members dress sense. Why does she dress like a tramp ?
It’s bath time next month. We wonder how we’ll scrub up.
Rather nicely I shouldn’t wonder, against Osborne’s posh stench.
Staffordshire statement: Almost constitutes a war crime.
Some in Labour should be prosecuted over this.
Agreed.
Modern myths & taboos:
NHS staff are great.
The Queen does a great job.
Multi-culturalism is beneficial to the UK.
We should respect all religious opinion.
Your final point is moot.
HM Queen does do a great job.
Why didn’t Danny Boyle portray Mid-Staffs in the ‘Wards of Death’, surely would have been a tour-de-force and more truthful!
Where is A Burnham ?
In the toilet doing his eyeliner.
Erm…on the front bench?
There he is. The face of murder.
Labour have blood and other bodily fluids on their hands.
Getting married?
Some like to think & say that the NHS is the best health service in the world. Anyone that he seen other countries health systems would note that this world class claim is nonsense! For one it costs too much to run & cab never meet the expectations of the Government or the public. The Conservatives have made a good start it modernising the NHS but ultimately the idea of the a completely free service will disappear as the funds to maintain the service are just not available.
Agreed.
The notion that things like health / education and other public services support are the best is a false propaganda.
What is true is that they are among the most expensive and inefficient.
The sheeple equate ‘the best’ with ‘free’. The fact that it’s paid by the few that work on the UK and pay taxes, but used by half of europe is overlooked.
A few years ago a German travel insurer issued instructions that any of their nationals taken ill in the UK should be repatriated for treatment as a priority, rather than be treated in the NHS.
Miliband says that Stafford shouldn’t have had Foundation Status. It was Burnham that recommended it. Burnham should be sacked immediately.
Perhaps he got it confused with foundation cream?
BurnhamDown thought it was Rugeley, Staffs!
“A good start” – nonsense.
The proposed reforms will do nothing to provide a proper health system. All that will happen is that many of the existing vested interests will remain and a few new ones added – the ones that have bought Cameron.
Patient care will remain appalling.
Targets will never work in a care giving environment. It is stupid to think that care can be numerically represented. It is also stupid to think that investigations afterwards will see anything wrong.
It is also especially needed in a confidential environment that must ban recording equipment of all types. They are free from observation, and they know it.
What is needed is immediate oversight. That is confidential, independent random, inspection. Imagine magistrates, but their job is to observe. They are limited to only a few years.
(Cameron: “Whistle-blowers what acknowledgement”. Then why did he not answer? Why does he continue to support the daily libelling of one?)
“immediate oversight” – yes, that used to be provided by what were known as “that battleaxe” (or more politely the Matron).
Brillo had a hair cut or is he doing a Terry Wogen with his many syrups of various lengths?
Today seems like an opportunity to destroy some myths and recast a system shown to condone failure, negligence and avoidable morbidity.
If Burnham had a shred of decency he would resign. I fear he has no decency what so ever.
Labour – look at him. He should go.
None of the troughing fuckers do decency or resignation unless under Huhne levels of exposure and guilt.
You really do need treatment.
It isn’t just Stafford or Liverpool – remember Maidstone (as I mentioned in the previous out-of-date thread).
And now Mr. Speaker, I shall shamelessly not accept that the honorable gentleman behind me is responsible, and stand shamelessly on the grave of those who died in horrific ways to make a fairly pi$$ poor point which serves no purpose.
Miliband is a total disgrace.
He’s not that good.
Obviously, but both he and Cameron are political pygmies.
God help us if they are supposeed to represent political leadership.
Yes. It’s easy to see that you are (sick).
Go away sicko, get treatment.
Why has Burnam not been prosecuted? he is responsible albeit indirectly for the deaths of these patients.
“responsible” is not a word that applies to contemporary politicians.
The correct usage is to talk of “lessons learned” and “systemic failure”.
Never, ever to do with personal responsibility – where would it all end?
Should that not also include the “Chair” of the Trust/Board and all the rest of those at the top on the big fat cat salaries?
You make me sick you driveling halfwit
Just to inform all you who post you get modded for using the word D R I V E L I N G second time that this has happened
driveling
Oh yes. Moderation is crap, but what does dr ive ling mean?
It’s actually spelt with a double “l” – I suspect it’s D R I V E that’s your problem.
Yes, operating a motorised vehicle is verboten herein. Spell it dr*ve, then it gets through.
It sounds like the NHS is run just like a death factory. Some people have being say this for some years and have been proved right.
There is an economic incentive for the state to kill off elderly in particular.
Saves on both ongoing health care costs, pensions etc.
This is totally unacceptable of course on moral and ethical grounds: But that is essentially what happened here.
Why wait ? Carpe diem.
It wasn’t my fault. I was only in charge.
Litigation is the final and only way of guaranteeing that the hospital management actually do what they need to. Dobson should really question the impact on clinical care as has been studied in the US. In particular, the trend that this leads to of doctors prescribing painkillers unnecessarily.
It was all Thatcher’s fault.
Blimey! Don’t tell me the downtrodden masses are at last beginning to wake up as to what actually happened over those 13 years of hell? Now all we have to do is to get them to change their voting habits (or, better still, forbid them from making their mark on the ballot paper).
retardED is WIMP not a WIP!
Accountability – Does Burnham know the meaning of the word?
Labour have called repeatedly for the resignation of labour ministers. So why when a labour minister, at the time, is ultimately responsible for patient deaths, does Ed Miliband not sack Burnham.
Did you mean Conservative ministers? Oh and by the way there is no ‘o’ in your first word.
Propaganda: ‘We all love the NHS’
Why is that always trundled out. No one should ‘love’ the NHS.
The only thing which is important is that the service which we pay for does what it says, and in this specific case upholds its vocational and ethical responsibilities.
PROFUMO SHOCK
Minister for war in nude romps with good-time girls.
Don’t forget Cameron claimed DLA
It was the right thing to do – that fucking wisteria doesn’t come cheap.
So you think privatising the NHS would make it all better then, do you?
Where the only criteria for care was how much profit you were going to make out of a patient. This becomes the guiding force within the NHS
So what about all the people with complicated, expensive conditions? You reckon private companies are gonna want all those cases then?
Take it from me, if you go down that road people will die because they cost too much to treat properly.
I got leukaemia. My chemotherapy in tablet form costs £20k+ per year, for life.
No way on this earth would my company BUPA scheme cover that.
NHS rules when you get cancer, chaps.
Why not?
Most company insurance schemes pay wages of staff when they get ill.
In fact you can buy special cancer insurance. Begging for your ration of treatment from the NHS kills.
NHS lack of care (GP disinterested in stomach lumps ) is most likely going to kill a acquaintance of mine from cancer.
The GP was uninterested, not disinterested.
Imatinib/glivec?
On the NHS you’re a cost, and costs are minimised…
Catastrophic insurance plus non-state treatment is the answer.
The state could even subsidise insurance (up to the level required for a non-overweight, non-smoker who keeps themselves fit).
NHS Kills. That’s the basic outcome of the report. No amount of tinkering with something on the historically wrong side of the Berlin wall can fix it.
What you are all saying then is Labour’s great experiment in public health that hoovers up nearly half of HMG’s spending and basically stuffed the economy is a bit of failure?
And the lefty scumbags say you can’t trust the Tories on the NHS!!!!!!!!!! What a joke- but it isn’t funny when so many thick cnuts believe it.
All the local Labour and union bods I know are all BUPA members.
Perhaps it would suffice if the NHS were to set out a chart of what they will treat on the service? Things like boob jobs, nose reconfiguring, varicose veins, liposuction, artificial limbs etc etc should be excluded (all these and other elective surgery can be done privately at patients’ own cost or insurance) and only “proper” medical complaints and conditions included.
The system should be configured so that only serious cases ever get to a hospital – starting with a GP, then if necessary referral to a local small clinic, and only then if the clinic is not equipped to deal with it, on to a hospital.
Walk in A&Es should be carefully monitored for only serious emergencies – that excludes dealing with druggies and drunks when the pubs turn out, twisted ankles, sprained wrists, headaches, coughs etc which should all be dealt with at GP or in extremis clinic level.
There are far too many people turning up at hospitals for complaints which do not really need that level of attention. These people clutter the place up and interfere with processing those who are in more urgent need of attention.
Heads on pikes
may lead to strikes,
not staff demanding pay
’tis patients’ rights
should stir the fight
and happen right away
The Royal (?) College of Nursing (? ) …
Couple of thoughts…………………Should Corporate Manslaughter legislation be applied to the Public Sector?
Was a lack of English speaking staff a factor in breakdown in communication between staff and patients?
Next week the Nursing and Midwifery Council will hear the case of Bulgarian-born Bonka Kostova, who is accused of abusing an unnamed patient at Stafford Hospital in July 2010. The registered midwife, who was working in Ward 6 as a health care support worker, is accused of “using her body weight” to push the patient into a bathroom and on to a lavatory, then “pulled him out of the bathroom in a state of undress”.
When another nurse tried to intervene, Miss Kostova allegedly “raised her voice and/or shouted ‘I hate you’ and ‘You are no longer a human being but an animal’ or words to that effect”, according to papers lodged at the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC).
Biju Reni, a registered nurse on Ward 2, is accused of failing to provide adequate care to three patients during night shifts in 2008 and 2010. During a morning shift in June 2010, s