February 5th, 2013

Labour’s Anti-Gay Marriage Brigade

Lots of focus, lobbying and abuse today for the Tories who are rebelling against the wishes of their leader and voting against gay marriage tonight at seven. However, very little attention has been given to the Labour MPs who are against the bill. Luckily LabourList have put together a handy list. They are  Joe Benton, Sir Tony Cunningham, Jim Dobbin, Brian Donohoe, Robert Flello, Mary Glindon, Roger Godsiff, Rt Hon Paul Goggins, Michael McCann, Jim McGovern, Austin Mitchell, Rt Hon Paul Murphy, Stephen Pound and Jim Sheridan. Plus there are three convenient abstentions from Alex Cunningham, Gavin Shuker and Rt Hon Stephen Timms. It’s right it should be a free vote and there is no way it won’t pass. The Lords is where the real fight will come though.


  1. 1
    Ex-Selohesra says:

    The Bishops will bash it

  2. 2
    Riesler says:

    Why would a Bent’un vote against?

  3. 3
    Lord Stansted says:

    Chris Huhne ‘won’t be expelled from Lib Dems’


    Says it all about that Party.

  4. 4
    Wanda Ringhands says:

    Traces of Jim Dobbin have been found in Tesco Value burgers

  5. 5
    Hot stuff says:


    A colleague has returned from a European skiing trip. The snow was barely skiable and the locals said the weather “was more like April than January”.
    So if we have half an inch of snow today, don’t put that ice sculpture pic up again, eh Guido?

  6. 6
    Putr1d Labour ruined my Country says:

    I want the law changed so I can marry my pet goldfish, two stick insects and my rubber plant.

  7. 7
    Riesler says:

    More of a punishment to be kept in?

  8. 8
    Spartacus says:

    homosexuals are more noble than heterosexuals

    – BBBC

  9. 9
    Plato says:

    Ed looks a bit worried by that p*ssed-up old tramp hanging off him.

  10. 10
    hank the cat says:

    BBC journalists are to go on strike and launch a corporation-wide work to rule in an escalating row over compulsory redundancies, the NUJ has announced.


  11. 11

    Dave is right behind them.

  12. 12
    Dudley Kung Fu says:

    When “Gay Marriage” is allowed I think it necessary to allow polygynous marriage, polygynous bi marriage, and polygynous polygynous marriage, where a group of men and women can get married to another group of men and women, to allow man woman, man man, woman woman and multiple relationships within a married environment

  13. 13
    Mrs Slocomb's Pussy says:

    Hee hee, you wrote ‘nob’.

  14. 14
    Dora says:

    Probably a clever ‘bent’un’ who can see the stupidity of marriage for 2 people of the same sex.

    The very definition of marriage is a union between male and female and our neo-liberal elite now think they can change the meaning of words.

    It’s uttuer stupidity and an sign of our dumbed down society and their mind set.

    I’m a lesbian and think gay marriage is unnecessary. I can go and have a civil partnership service at the town hall and then get my union blessed in church if I so wished.

  15. 15
    One Term Cameron says:

    The lickspittle Cameron Lackeys core argument is that as long as two people love each other why should they not be allowed to marry ? Good one Nick, so your a keen suporter of incest then as long as the two people love each other. Stupid and juvenille argument you cretin !

  16. 16
    Anonymous says:

    Does marriage consummation laws let marriage to be consummated if husband put it in the ass of his wife and never in pu***?

    According to the law as far as I know (could be wrong) if marriage hasn’t been consummated it can become null and void.

    Also can a wife get divorce for unreasonable behaviour if husband want to always do it in the ass?

    Without changing all these laws Cameron cannot have gay marriage.

  17. 17
    Kenneth Williams says:

    Stop messin’ abaht…

  18. 18
    Welcome to Babylon says:

    Zoophilia is legal in Denmark, Holland and Germany (although I think the latter may have recently repealed the law passed in 1989 allowing sex with animals).

    Mad isn’t it?

  19. 19
    One Term Cameron says:

    The manipulation of language is core value of a totalitarian state.

  20. 20
    Dora says:

    Utter – not uttuer – typing too quickly!

  21. 21
    BBC Viewers says:

    Nobody will notice or…..care

  22. 22
    8illy Kebab says:

    … talking of basing the bishop, I can’t wait for the next guidogram!

  23. 23
    Chris Bryant says:

    We should all widen the circle of our friends.

  24. 24
    Anonymous says:

    Do you thing laws on marriage consummation need changing? Otherwise gay may marriages could be null and void?

  25. 25
    Handycock Immigrant Trafficker says:

    This is a difficult one for me. Are there votes in it from gays who support the Bill or loss of votes in it from all the Muslims I have brought in to the city, and what will my boys think if I vote for? It is not the principle but votes that are important, what do I do? Looks like another day away from the House for me when the vote takes place. Boaz.

  26. 26
    TANSTAAFL says:

    See “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” by Heinlein for a description of a multiple-person marriage.


  27. 27
    (I don't need no doctor) says:

    Just put the Guardian front page up instead of BBC News 24.

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Most people will not even care if Cameron marry Osborne, I will not care either. Economy is in a mess and these idiots are diverting.

  29. 29
    Carina and Chris says:

    Dora, You sound lovely! Would you ever consider a threesome?

    We are very laid back and would love to meet you and explore together.

    C&C xxx

    PS we have a webcam if you’d like a chat.

  30. 30
    Anonymous says:

    Homosexual marriage is an attack on society and on what makes a stable country.

    It is brought to you by the same Common Purpose Marxist traitors who brought you unlimited immigration of unemplyable peasants and ‘ever closer union’ into a fascist EUSSR.

    The EUSSR cannot form until the will and spirit of the people of the UK – and of all the other sovereign country’s – has been broken by both social attack (on those countries not in the eurozone) and both social and monetary attack on those countries that are.

    Look ahead – and see the bigger picture … there is a war going on where the freedom and democracy of the people is being fought for.

  31. 31
    If its just a case of redefining at will.... says:

    What if three people love ech other ?

  32. 32
    I hate politicians says:

    So some Tory MPs and Labour MPs are revolting?

    Nothing new there then.

  33. 33
    Goober says:

    I’m a straight guy and I don’t care what other people get up to in bed. It’s none of my business. If some of them want to get married and happen to be the same sex, I don’t care.

  34. 34
    Gordon on day release says:

    Where ‘er you be
    Let wind go free
    In church or chapel
    Let it rattle.

  35. 35
    Lots of Tories in the closet says:

  36. 36
    One of many flws in this legislation says:

    I think the Bill will amend this in regard to marriage between “same sex” couples..hence the opposition from the Churches. It significantly re-writes the concept of marriage as set down in the scriptures and canon law.

    The so-called “Quadruple Lock” will not withstand appeal to the ECHR either.

    The personal assurances of PM and Ministers count for nothing in this regard

  37. 37
    John Mann MP says:

    Us dunna hay mincus in Bassetlaw.

  38. 38
    Anonymous says:

    Then why cannot a King or Queen marry a catholic?

  39. 39
    Welcome to Babylon says:

    Anon – I agree with you……..completely and utterly.

  40. 40
    Carina and Chris says:

    OOps sorry Dora, should have said. I will also be looking to play alone fem to fem as Chris will be going away for a while, I’m sure you know how a girl can feel.

    Anyway hope to hear from you.

    C&C xxx

  41. 41
    Double standards says:

    Robert Flello is the one claiming Catholocism and faith being the main driver of his conscience to protect marriage.

    I wonder what his estranged wife thnks of this view now he’s shacked up with his squeeze who is on the council?

  42. 42
    Stephen Pound Me In The Ass says:

    Is Mary Glindon sure she’s in the right party?

    Mary Glindon is often at odds with the Labour Party due to her socially conservative views. She opposes same-sex marriage, and has signed the Coalition for Marriage petition. She is also a listed member of the House of Commons’ All-Party Parliamentary Pro-Life Group, and is a notable critic of abortion.

  43. 43
    Stephen Pound Me In The Ass says:

  44. 44
    Putr1d Labour ruined my Country says:

    What if a hundred people love each other and their pet pony?

  45. 45
    Rustle of the bush says:

    I have found over the years so called labour supporters are some of the most racist , bigoted people I have ever met. So I am not in the least bit surprised…

  46. 46
    you need to do much better than call me a little Englander says:

    another bit of EU bullshit governance, this is going ahead not just as a diversion from their general incompetence but because it’s been brought in by several EU countries already
    It’s such a shame gays can’t take all the gay jokes.

  47. 47
    Ex-Selohesra says:

    Come on – there are limits to the depravity they want

  48. 48
    Willy says:

    I’d love my circle widened, when are you free Chris?

  49. 49
    Anonymous says:

    Same issue is around sex education in schools and ECHR. Then there are issues around future king / queen. Cameron has to pass a law saying they cannot be king / queen if they had a gay marriage as if they have it they cannot have the marriage in church even though they will be the head of church.

    Its going to be a nightmare.

  50. 50
    hank the cat says:

    Dave is love bombing the gay vote

  51. 51
    Welsh activist. says:

    I applaud your common sense approach Dora.

  52. 52
    Tarquin Romulus Needlethrush says:

    Marvellous. I nearly came…

  53. 53
    If its just a case of redefining at will.... says:

    If two brothers wanted to marry each other , do you care about that ? If so why ?

  54. 54
    Irony says:

    Gay marriage: ban on same sex church weddings may not be legally watertight – research DAILY TELEGRAPH

    MP’s have been advised that a new law which allows GAY couples to marry will not protect churshes from being legally challenged. This is law making by footlights and not evidence. It’s law making by popularity and by manifesto. In short, this has not been properly prepared and thought through.

    GAY equal legal rights yes, absolutely! GAY rights to the institution of marriage no…

  55. 55
    blood is thicker than perrier says:

    Er, it used to called a family didn’t it?

  56. 56
    Dora says:

    Carina & Chris – exploring sounds interesting!

    Can I bring Eunice along? She’s a bit like Joyce Grenfell without the limp.

    No webcam I’m afraid, but we can be found in “The Flying Handbag”, Blackpool most saturday nights.

  57. 57
    hank the cat says:

    Twinkle Twinkle Little Rectum
    Big Cocks Come when You Least
    Expect Em

  58. 58
    Anonymous says:

    There are marriages where one husband in marred to few wifes, they have these marriages in religious places. they all live in the same house, even council houses or with housing benefits.

    This is common in mus*** communities even in UK. Everyone knows about it but government never takes action.

  59. 59
    Anonymous says:

    I love my dog – can I marry it?

  60. 60
    Anonymous says:

    I am sure Cameron loves his kids. It will be sick if he wants to marry them.

  61. 61
    Putr1d Labour ruined my Country says:

    I don’t think mozzies are really bothered they’re too busy molesting children.

  62. 62
    DAVE STRAPON says:

    Oh for the joy , Of a round arsed boy

  63. 63
    Thick as shit says:

    I,ve been married for years,and i,m not even gay..ha..ha..

  64. 64
    Dora says:

    Carina – I did reply but it was moderated and removed – so I’d better shut up. I said nothing bad – just mentioned my local watering hole in B’pool.

    I did ask if I could bring Eunice along and mentioned she was a little like Joyce Grenfell without the limp.

  65. 65
    Goober says:

    Well, there’s no danger of their offspring being genetically flawed!

  66. 66
    Breaking news says:

    Chris Huhne’s former wife passed the story about his speeding offence to the press in revenge for his extra-marital affair, Southwark Crown Court heard. Prosecutors say Vicky Pryce took speeding points for Huhne a decade ago.

    The jury was read an email from 2011 – after she found out about Huhne’s affair – in which Ms Pryce, 60, of London, said she wanted to “nail him”.

  67. 67
    Putr1d Labour ruined my Country says:

    I’ve changed my mind, I don’t want to marry my pet goldfish anymore as he ignored me this morning. I now want to marry my front lawn and privet hedge.

  68. 68

    The King was in his counting house counting out his money
    the Queen was in the parlour eating bread and honey
    the Nave was in the garden explaining to Camroon ,
    It’s the Vagina not the arsehole , that’s the entrance to the womb

  69. 69

    Two gay cowboys “Yup”? Yep !

  70. 70
    Nick Herberts argument in a nutshell says:

    Why not ? As long as they love each other !

  71. 71
    Meanwhile, that pervert case says:

    Pryce trial is continuing:


    Passing the story to newspapers rather than going direct to police does not sound like the actions of a weak woman who was susceptible to duress.

  72. 72
    The whacky world of David Camerons priorities says:

    Just as well there are no other major issues on the go which require the Governments attention.

  73. 73
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Heinlein’s Razor: Never attribute to malice that which stupidity adequately explains.

    E.G., the support many persons give to changing the definition of the word “marriage,” when the same benefits can be accomplished without the use of the word, which use is meant only for the purpose of offence by those who spitefully use the people of a more ingenuous benevolent nature. The cynics = malicious; the innocents = stupid.

  74. 74
    If its just a case of redefining at will.... says:

    Precisely , so you are for allowing incest in these circumstances then Goober ?

  75. 75
    Kenneth Williams says:

    Well, quite…

  76. 76
    Another reason why the vote tonight should be binned says:

    This gay issue is becoming boring, and the PC separation of ‘gay’ issues from ‘p3d0′ issues is actually not a conflation but a rather flimsy smoke screen:


    This change serves only one purpose: destruction of the family and facilitation of what can only be described as pure evil.

  77. 77
    Anonymous says:

    I fully support a strike by BBC journos

  78. 78

    I love gay marriage me ,
    I especially look forward to the “exchanging of the rings”

  79. 79
    Casual Observer says:

    If the expelled on the basis of him having a conviction that would create problems for Clegg.

  80. 80
    The BBC says:

    We aren’t in the slightest bit interested in anything other than Tory or coalition splits.

    And you wait ’til tomorrow when we take you Tories to the cleaners over your Stafford Hospital failings. Cameron and Hunt have questions to answer.

  81. 81
    EU Funded Pro EU Troll says:

    Vote UKIP.

  82. 82
    Dreary Steeples says:

    Can’t see gorgeous George voting for the bill, as he likes to portray himself as the uberlegen type of Muslim.

  83. 83
    Casual Observer says:

    Given that many religions accommodate polygamy, that marital arrangement has much more legitimacy that homosexual marriage.

  84. 84
    Natural Behaviour says:

    If you want to use your stick of rock up someones chocolate canyon and end up [sorry about that phrase] with Aids then go ahead you don’t need a marriage cert and you’ll be doing your bit to reduce over population.

  85. 85
    Confused about this perversion says:

    What is the bosom of the family with couple of guys married ? Will one need to become a lady boy ?

  86. 86
  87. 87
    Bear says:

    Gayers have as much right to be be miserable as anybody else

  88. 88
    EU Watch says:

    Many EU countries also allow sex with animals.

    Is that next ?

  89. 89
    David B says:

    Labourlist also have Gordon Brown as voting for the proposal – who is running a book on him turning up!!

  90. 90
    Cranky old git says:

    Polygamy is invariably a disaster for the rights of women (and don’t say ‘legalise polyandery as well’ – nowhere, outside the Himalayas, has that ever caught on). Sons of the same mother with different fathers are often the best of friends: sons of the same father with different (living) mothers usually hate each other’s guts.

  91. 91
    Jimmy says:

    Good grief. This comment section is one for the guidophile connoisseurs.

    Someone leave a closet open this morning?

  92. 92
    EyeSee says:

    If it passes it will be another case of politicians not representing the people, but pushing through unnecessary legislation on behalf of activists and lobby groups.

  93. 93
    Ned says:

    Cameron is using Labour votes to attack his own party.

  94. 94
    Rob says:

    The BBC don’t report on this simply for reasons do space, no bias at all.

  95. 95
    Edmund Hockridge (dec'd) says:

    Lurve is a many splendored thing…
    It only grows in the early spring..

  96. 96
    Catty Comment (Ms) says:

    So has “Happy Bunnies” Day been set yet?

  97. 97
    Catty Comment (Ms) says:

    You need to direct your question to either Henry VIII or his daughter Elizabeth for the answer to that.

  98. 98
    Catty Comment (Ms) says:

    It is well know that our muzmates do not like pooffes – although they may quite like the stuffed footrest type. If you live in a muzmate area and are one of ‘those’ beware if you see a large crane coming down your street.

  99. 99
    Catty Comment (Ms) says:

    How about lying and adultery? Oh and speeding?

  100. 100
    Catty Comment (Ms) says:

    … and the rest of us support a stroke for them too.

  101. 101
    Catty Comment (Ms) says:

    Anyone remember who was the solicitor to Richmond council back then??

  102. 102
    Anonymous says:

    if US were to join the EU…it is the land of debt after all.
    if Gay folks were to live for ever and rule, no real reason for anyone else to exist, apart from as service delivery entities.
    it has been mentioned that ppl will be able to live forever ….cloning, 3d printing, medical technology and even bodies without souls…it is the end of the world as we know it.
    so what is to be done…nowt actually. the war has been lost… but still time exist to make the ultimate celestial source happy. chant OM correctly, and perhaps we will escape the cycle of death and rebirth on the masculine empty planet earth.
    Our masters have access to all spiritual and energy technologies, including time or astral travel. see all science fiction, all great art and literature as predictive programming…actually everything in the past 7000 years. … all knowledge that runs the world is pre Baby.lon.
    the worship of the feminine moon is in. it will be a romantic penalty free world for the few and last 400,000 years. 407000 can be reduced the number 2, (4plus7; 1plus1) the number of peace, but at nightime war is peace, not war and peace.
    all true knowledge has been corrupted and inverted and is been subtly, dramatically and rapidly changed even at its earthy source. It is a tough old world for idealism and values. intuition and a stimulation free world is your friend.

  103. 103
    Old Blue Eyes says:

    Having listened to some of the debate on this matter on television Iv’e come to the conclusion that this will easily be voted through the reason being there seems to be a majority of pufters sitting on those green benches.

  104. 104
    Jack Ketch says:

    I believe that the Buggery Act and the Offences Against the Person Act did not discriminate by gender or species. The practice was generall deemed unnatural and illegal. However the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act of 2006 seems to have decriminalised anal intercourse between a man and a woman ( as well as two or several men) even if she doesn’t like it. There is no clarification on whether an animal has to be willing or not, but then Wales now has Home Rule.

  105. 105
    Fools gold says:

    It is a bum bill anyway.

  106. 106
    SaltPetre says:

    I don’t blame you. That privet hedge of yours is a real beauty…..yep.. a REAL beauty !

  107. 107
    TONY BENN'S WILL says:

    How do the animals give their permission

  108. 108
    TONY BENN'S WILL says:

    Lovely when it comes to benefits

  109. 109
    TONY BENN'S WILL says:

    Will they be able to get married in a mosque?

  110. 110
    TONY BENN'S WILL says:

    I always find the news so much more interesting when an unknown reader is doing it an you do not have the personality of the celebrity newsreader to interfere with it so,bring on the strike.
    By the way if Kirsty Wark was run over by a bus would newsnight Cease to exist. No! Therefor she is replaceable by someone fresher better,from the next generation who have inherited labours debt and someone cheaper
    Anyone object to getting rid of her and the rest of the team who didn’t spot the credit crunch coming,.

  111. 111
    Natural Behaviour says:

    You will , when its your turn in the pork barrel

  112. 112
    Pundit Too says:

    Did the Beast of Ballsover vote for gay marriage?
    If so he is a bigger hypocrite than even I thought.

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