February 1st, 2013

UKIP Members Are Bar Fighting Hooligans, Says Dave Ally


Every year swathes of boozed-up Brits cross the channel and wreak havoc on the continent. According to one of David Cameron’s allies in the European Conservatives and Reformists group, UKIP are the prime culprits. Derk-Jan Eppink isn’t happy:

“If they get drunk they get very dangerous. They present themselves as white knights but they are not. They are sort of hooligans, bar fighters…apart from Nigel Farage.”

In Guido’s experience they have been able to hold their drink. Well, most of them…

H/T @poljourno


  1. 1
    Sir William says:

    “If You Can’t Win The Argument, Make An Ad Hominem Attack” Part II.


    • 21
      Vote4Ukip says:

      Certain Europhiles are dangerous when sober.


    • 79
      Anonymous says:

      Any Cast Iron, Any Cast Iron Any Any Any Cast Iron
      You think somehow we believe you now
      Well we’ve not forgot your CAST IRON VOW
      Your referendum laws will have a get out clause
      They are really just a try on
      So we all will still vote UKIP
      Get it in your brain
      We’ll be voting UKIP
      We’ll be voting UKIP
      We’ll be voting UKIP

      All right


    • 84
      Nigel Farage (pronounced faridge) says:

      Most of the swathes are UKIP members: sounds like there could be rude surprise in 2015


    • 90
      Popeye says:

      Conservatives have joined the Labour crowd, pure misinformation, black arts indeed.


  2. 2
    Karl Schennedy says:

    I’ve never seen a socialist sloshed.


    • 9
      Keel-haul Camartwat, C£€gg, B£iar, Brhoon, €ffigy of H€ath, daily – pour encourager les autres says:

      Comrade Citizen Brhune was out of his mind on G*d only knows what – and pissed money down the gutter. Does that count?


      • 76
        Anonymous says:

        Election 2015

        Our homeland famed for hope and glory
        Will not be saved by voting Tory
        For Cameron has a different view
        He’ll sell us all to the EU

        And soon you’ll hear from the Libdem
        Vote for us, were not like them
        But I would say ignore them please
        Remember the tuition fees

        And what about the Labour lot
        Who’s secret immigration plot
        Has worked exactly as designed
        When they the Lisbon Treaty signed

        Your dreams alas will turn to dust
        If in these parties you put trust
        Now is the time to get a grip
        Get rid of this lot VOTE UKIP


    • 26
      Anonymous says:

      Eric Joyce


      • 85
        Where are Tony Blair's expenses says:

        What about the drunk Charles Kennedy and even worse was the way the politcal classes tried to cover up the fact that he had a drink problem.


    • 43
      What, not even... says:

      George Brown. Permanently pickled.


    • 59
      Balls Photographer says:


  3. 3
    Welsh activist. says:

    Exactly. Expect more of this, much more.


  4. 4
    SP4BS says:

    hate to say, but “my” PPC is apparently frequently pissed.


  5. 5
    alanbstardmp says:

    the kind if bar fighters Blair and Cameron would love to see in the Army enforcing global economics somewhere. Useful that way, but otherwise treated with contempt by politicians


  6. 6
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Dear oh dear – is this the best smear that Team Dave can come up with today?


    I suppose the UKIP women are all meth drinking, coke up knife wielding hookers as well?

    Vote UKIP – destroy Dave Camerons Blue Labour at all costs.


  7. 7
    Keel-haul Camartwat, C£€gg, B£iar, Brhoon, €ffigy of H€ath, daily – pour encourager les autres says:

    If that’s all they can dredge up, it’s clear that Camertwat and co are getting down to the short strokes of desperation.


  8. 10
    A psychiatrist writes says:

    This would appear to explain the recent absence of Schrodinger’s Cat from the comment section:



  9. 13
    Sarah says:

    Fourth Reich Euro fanatic friend of Camerons attacking UKIP?

    Excellent – they must be worried.

    I could not wait to see Brown humiliated at the ballot box – it did not happen because of the pro EU social democrat Cameron.

    Now I cannot wait to see HIM humiliated at the ballot box.

    Election please – & where is my referendum Cameron you lying toad?

    UKIP for me.


  10. 14
    Hamish says:

    Who is Dave Ally? Any relation to Doull Ally or Antz Ally?


  11. 15
    Godfrey Bloom, M.E.P., Q.E.D., q.e.f., C.B.E. [pending] says:

    I’ve had a fucking belly full of you London liberal pansy handy-pandy jessiebelles complaining about male patriarchy and a bit of irresponsible drunkenness.

    Now get behind the fridge and let’s hear no more until it’s all spic-and-span!



  12. 16
    Liz Featherbed MP says:

    I do not feel it important to have a view on any of this one way or another.


    • 38
      Eric the Spleen Splitter says:

      If I were you I wouldn’t even bother to ignore it!

      PS Lets all drink to Britains future outside the EU Vote UKIP


  13. 18
    hank the cat says:

    This kind of attack on UKIP was was only to be expected, after the Ref speech by dave every man and his dog knew that this type of garbage would come spewing out.


  14. 19
    Angie "europfuhrer" Merkin says:

    Nein, nein, it vill be ein reich, ein volk aund mein own little pet fuhrer, Herr Van Rumpy-Pumpy…. und I will be pulling the strings you little hooligan englanders nichtwahr?


  15. 20
    Sarah says:

    British taxpayers lose £100,000,000 because of EU road scheme fraud in Poland.

    Tiotal fraud could be £1 billion Euro’s:


    And Cameron wants to stay part of this?


    • 22
      WVM says:



    • 49
      David Cameron says:

      Of course I do, in fact I would go as far as to say, we must never, ever leave the EU.

      Without our membership, war would break out again in weeks, children and old people would be killed in their beds and unemployment would soar by 2000%.

      Trust me, I am telling you the truth, just as I always do.


  16. 25
    Ken Clarke says:

    It’s worse than that. UKIP are kiddie fiddlers. The sort of people who, upon being told a lad is underage, would put their hand on his groin.


  17. 28
  18. 29
    Boanerges says:

    I’d have thought that bar fighting hooligans were unlikely to vote, never mind be members of a political party.


    • 30
      Skorpian De Rooftrouser says:

      If you are a member of the socialist workers party you do not go in for bar fighting, r@pe is more acceptable.


  19. 32
    restore the monasteries says:

    Being absolutely sick of our political class,and sick of the way the electorate is
    ignored,and,the contemptuous way we have been treated by the tory’s re EU referendum,i will only vote tory if the ref is before the next GE…I am not falling for Daves trick,or any political trick of any party..To believe we live in a proper
    democracy is a bloody myth,its just a change in management,but same ideology,
    so ,pointless!!(con maj 66)


  20. 33
    seems like a plonker says:

    “Eppink’s venting of the spleen seemed to have been fuelled in part by what he described as “a very unpleasant dinner” in the UK that descended into a shouting match with a British academic. “I discovered afterwards that he was linked to UKIP,” Eppink said. He often travelled to Britain at the invitation of British Tory MEPs in the ECR group, he said, visiting towns such as Nottingham “where I would never go as a tourist”.”


    • 63
      Local says:

      Nottingham? Full of nignogs.


      • 65
        Anonymous says:

        @GawainTowler By the way, I love Nottingham since in my student years I was fan of Nottingham Forrest and as child watched Robin Hood!

        Seems like a recoil from that dissing of Nottingham


  21. 34
    One Term Dave says:

    Yes, I know I shouldn’t be dragging the country into wars with ragheads in the back of beyond. But think of the photo ops. Fuck me, when I walk along in the sunshine under the palm trees with all the cameras clicking I feel like Lord Palmerston.


  22. 35
    Tachybaptus says:

    You can measure the success of any movement by the degree of hysteria in its opponents’ attacks.


  23. 37
    Oh for gawds sake... says:

    Derk-Jan Eppink is completely wrong of course, but what he’s basically saying is that an inebriated Brit can still win a fight against a sober Frenchman or Belgian.

    Maybe he was trying to pay us a compliment?


  24. 39
    Penfold says:

    Someone’s rattled.

    The professional football foul, forget the ball, play the man.

    The speaker here, would make a good Limp-Dick, it’s just about on a par with their black agit-prop.


  25. 41
    Where are Tony Blair's expenses says:

    UKIP trending at ~ 14% so one term Dave has no chance 2015. In the last election UKIP cost them 20 seats with only 4% of the vote.

    The Tories know they are finished; god help the tax payer if Milliband and Clegg put a coalition together at the next election.


  26. 42
    Chris Huhne says:

    I saw my first transsexual the other day as i was walking down the street.

    I could tell it was a bloke. I pissed myself laughing when i saw the skirt it was wearing

    He Turned Round And Shouted ‘Fuck Off, Ye English Bastard’


  27. 44
    Owen Jones says:

    IN my local pub we go in for spitting and scratching, and hitting each other with our handbags


    • 55
      Owen Jones Mum says:

      Owen dear, stop exaggerating.

      Our local landlord is very good and allows us to bring him into the pub where they have an excellent family and play area.

      We let him have juice, and if he is a really good boy, sometimes a shandy.


  28. 46
    EU Watch says:

    Simply untrue. Could the claim be backed up with some statistics or otherwise proved ? Even if so, well done UKIP.

    On the issue of greater danger, the policies being imposed by the EU on Greece, Spain etc. and the civil disturbances which have ensued since have done more damage to the streets and people of those countries than an army of UKIP hooligans could ever do.

    How many of UKIPs mob have caused people to kill immigrants, fire automatic weapons at government buildings, beat down the civilian police or push people unnecessarily into poverty and strip them of their dignity ?

    No. It is not UKIP who have caused that.

    UKIP warned about this, are standing against the forces which brought it about and are trying to prevent the situation from happening in the UK in the near future.

    Euro politicians have zero credibility in the UK, except for UKIP, so they shouldn’t even bother attempting to form opinion here in this way.

    The ad hominem emphasizes the falseness of Eppnick’s incredible claim.


  29. 51
    England should break away from the foreign city of London. says:

    A smear a day won’t keep UKIP away.


  30. 53
    Chris Huhne(The Fat Controller) says:

    The train involved is being moved now. Apologies for the delays. Trains running up to 30 mins late at the moment with a few exceptions.


  31. 56
    Carter, Liar and Ruck it says:

    Is this how the Froggies will treat the Illiterate Beckham when he shows up in Paris?

    Do you think his gorillas have told Posh not to show her face for fear of being disfigured?


  32. 57
    Counter Point says:

    A europhile is only three letters from being a p3dophile. Slippery slope.


  33. 58
    SomeoneElse says:

    of course the full story was posted on Junius a couple of days ago.

    I think I trust Eppink than those morons at EUkip

    British Eurosceptics often did not bother to turn up at committees or parliament plenary sessions. Centre-right parties have on occasion been “one or two votes short of stopping the left” in key votes that were lost because UKIP MEPs were “not there”, it was said. And UKIP was a party of “vox-pop politicians” with “no grassroots support”, Eppink claimed when continuing his diatribe. Eurosceptics took European funding and “funnelled it into their party”, he added, and UKIP’s parliamentary members often flitted between parties or found themselves “investigated” – he suggested.

    Debating Europe with UKIP supporters often turned into an “aggressive” exchange involving “abusive language”, said Eppink. “They are sort of hooligans,” he told the gathering “apart from Nigel Farage” – the UKIP leader. And UKIP supporters and British Eurosceptics in general were “hard to convince with facts and figures”, said Eppink, a Dutchman who has crossed over into Belgian politics. “A positive agenda is very hard to sell,” he said – a problem he predicted would face British Prime Minister David Cameron if and when he campaigns for the UK to remain in the EU ahead of a referendum.

    Eppink’s venting of the spleen seemed to have been fuelled in part by what he described as “a very unpleasant dinner” in the UK that descended into a shouting match with a British academic. “I discovered afterwards that he was linked to UKIP,” Eppink said. He often travelled to Britain at the invitation of British Tory MEPs in the ECR group, he said, visiting towns such as Nottingham “where I would never go as a tourist”.

    The Tories in the ECR group were almost all in favour of remaining in the 27-member bloc, he claimed; citing both personal contacts and Twitter feeds as evidence. Only Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan was likely to vote for the UK to withdraw, he predicted. Cameron’s Europe speech earlier this month was, in Eppink’s opinion, an attempt to regain ground lost to UKIP. The British PM was “asking questions other leaders were afraid to ask”, he said, such as whether Europe could continue with its current “one size fits all” approach; or whether it should adopt a more flexible à la carte formation.

    A piecemeal approach to European integration was in reality already taking shape, he pointed out. In addition to the Schengen free movement area, the eurozone, and the various opt-outs enjoyed by countries such as the UK, Denmark and Ireland, Brussels law-makers were increasingly resorting to “enhanced cooperation” – a process by which a group of nine or more member states can forge ahead with laws of their own. “Without flexibility the EU will not work,” said Eppink, who described himself as a Euroscepetic in Brussels but a Europhile in the UK.

    Issuing a strong rebuttal to Eppink’s criticisms of UKIP, party spokesman Gawain Towler said: “I wonder if Mr Eppink’s speech was made ‘after lunch’. It seems a little intemperate. UKIP of course is not in the European Parliament to tinker round the edges but to work to get the UK out of the EU. That Cameron has offered a referendum is a small victory, that Dirk-Jan believes that 24 out of 25 Tory MEPs will vote to stay in the EU, rather makes our point about that party.”

    Eppink became a well-known figure in Brussels following the success of his book Life of a European Mandarin, which lifted the lid on the workings of the European Commission. In it he describes the shenanigans of lobbyists and officials and underlines the extent to which key decisions are made out of the public eye. He served in the cabinets of former Dutch Commissioner Frits Bolkestein and Siim Kallas, the current European Transport Commissioner.


  34. 61
    Jimbo says:

    Now we are starting to try and give the UKIP supporters a Bad name,this is typical of the “Common Purpose” members of the media and Television, if you dont agree with them start calling them names and place them in a box with a nasty label.
    This is why the terms racist ,homophobe, sexist etc are used purely to attack someone or their beliefs.
    Never had Guido down as “Common Purpose ” though ! just shows how wrong you can be.
    Facts are that UKIP are gaining ground and will go from strength to strength and good luck to them as we need some politicians with testicular fortitude, I am a natural Conservative and will be Voting UKIP as they are more Conservative than Socialist Dave and his followers.


  35. 66
    P l e b says:

    “David Cameron in Liberia: ‘we must eradicate extreme poverty’

    PM also calls for focus on education during visit to school with Liberian president ahead of role co-chairing UN poverty meeting”


    • 67
      P l e b says:

      Well, Cameron is doing a great job of eradicating poverty in this country.

      Basically he is starving and freezing them to death.

      Of course he is fine with relative poverty – his relatives aren’t poor, thanks to his fathers aggressive tax avoidance.


      • 70
        Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

        Cameron seeking action on Poverty. Its a scam in an attempt to look good towards the gullible world media. What is he doing about speculators working in the City whose practices in the hiking of food prices on world markets is actaully causing suffering hunger and death in the third world? NOTHING.
        What is he doing about privatised companies hiking massively bills and charges, causing increasing poverty at home. NOTHING.

        Whilst War, famine and corruption all cause poverty on huge scale so does free market capitalism. Any action?…..thought not.


    • 71
      Dead in the water says:

      I suspect our Prime Minister is taking the piss .


      • 73
        Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

        Cameron is a vile cretin who needs removing from power as soon as possible.

        His late father would be pig sick if he could see what a yellow bucket of vomit his son has turned out to be


    • 74 says:

      Liberia has some of most appalling health care in the world, where infant mortality rates are very high. That is one area which needs particular attention.


  36. 69
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Oh, dear, was Mr Eppink “tired and emotional” when he said that?
    I can see how hanging out with UKIPpers might impel you to be so, if you have no answer for what it is they are trying to tell you, but you cannot politely leave the discussion; you just have to “suck it up,” I reckon, and that’s why he used the barroom-brawl metaphor, it would seem– it’s the first to come to his mind in that kind of situation, innit?
    (Will there be a rinky-tink piano playing in the background? There always is one in Westerns!)


  37. 72
    hank the cat says:

    What are Eppink (Eppink sounds like a rare species of rat founf in Europe) reasons for posting this?


  38. 75
    Hang The B@stards says:

    We at least someone is fighting for the UK !


  39. 77
    Nigel Biggles, Lemon Party says:

    Shtep outshide and shay that you froggie bashtard


  40. 78
    Anarchists In Blazers says:

    Eppinks right, the choice is clear :

    a. Don’t drink, don’t smoke and only poke other men or
    b. Vote UKIP


  41. 80
    True Brit says:

    I’d take a beer drinker who doesn’t roll over for anyone and stands up for what the majority of the country want to a wine drinking sheep who gets led along bowing to a mad persons wants and needs. Look where that got you the last 2 times, double arse whipping that’s what!


  42. 88
    Lizzie says:

    At least UKIP supporters only turn nasty when they’re drunk, unlike many European MEPs who are nasty even when they’re sober.


  43. 92
    Anonymous says:

    I like drunken hooligans


  44. 93

    oh dear , now the opposition bullies are out on the school playing field , making fierce threats, and hissing pathetic messages that are supposed to scare UKIP supporters, how many more ways can they show the world what a weak and ineffectual bunch they have become , UKIP supporters in the main are hardened to this kind of political bullying ,we have withstood all the petty and downright rude comments from all parties because we have the one thing they cannot blow apart or dismantle with their slippery tongues….THE TRUTH …about what is really going on in the EU and how the British people are being robbed blind. carry on if you must with your LIB/LAB/CON..TEMPT for the people who pay your lucrative salaries , but a word of warning start job hunting!.


  45. 95
    Anonymous says:

    And of course the EU has just upped the budget for troll hunters disseminating anti EU propaganda.
    Must go someone’s kicked my door down.


  46. 96
    The White Knights says:

    Derk van Eppink.We think we know where he lives.


  47. 97
    Get 'em in I'll hold the coats says:

    Ukip/ EU bar room brawl. Sounds like a good idea, why doesn’t Farage offer them all outside, starting with Van Rumpy and the Eyetye, save a lot of expensive and pointless negotiation?


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