January 29th, 2013

Boundary Reform Defeated 334-292

mapsThe LibDem rebellion has done for Dave’s boundary reform bill, with the government defeated 334 to 292.

Labour are cheering the fact that they may well have just won the next election, with a rigged system…


193 Comments

  1. 1
    enough of the LibDems says:

    Cameron should call an election immediately

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    • 7
      TobyG says:

      He can’t, read the rules, just like he can’t call a referendum.

      Welcome to the real world.

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    • 16
      Anonymous says:

      And how would he be able to do that now that we have a fixed term parliament, eh?

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      Sorry no election..Cameron would have to hand over to Miliband and Labour says:

      Sorry…another piece of LibDem legislation i.e.”Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2010″ means he can’t until 7 May 2015 unless he loses a vote of confidence and Labour is unable to form a government with LibDems

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      • 86
        Jimmy says:

        They could have an election if they wanted. In practical terms I don’t think it’s that hard. Labour would be unlikely to rescue Clegg if the coalition collapsed, we’d almost certainly hold out for a dissolution. Why wouldn’t we? The only reason they won’t call an election now is because they know what the result would be.

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          A balanced lib dem viewpoint says:

          Welll thats the lib dems done for, their only hope is a coalition and that wont be necessary now labour are likely to win the next election by a gerrymandered mile. Unless the electorate remember who got us into this mess… i hear the shouts labour cant do any worse than this lot…. except they did do worse the last time they got their hands on our money.

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    • 39
      more leftist shite says:

      Hybrids and low emission cars to lose exemption from London congestion charge – because they are causing too much pollution
      Soaring sales of Congestion Charge exempt eco-cars making air quality worse
      Diesels emit 22 times more soot particles than petrol cars

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      • 53
        T'Old Fella says:

        They certainly do, poor maintenance, clogged injectors, it does wonders for the atmosphere

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      • 82
        CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

        > Hybrids and low emission cars to lose exemption from London congestion

        As they should. It’s a congestion charge not a effing eco (unless you can afford to worship Gaia) charge.

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      • 87
        hank the cat says:

        He can call another election, if he manages to lose a vote on no confidence in parliment

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      • 125
        Anonymous says:

        They should all be made electric with battery swapping stations all over the place.
        Power can then be generated somewhere not in the city, cheaply during lull periods and any filters can be bigger as they don’t have to be small enough to carry on the vehicle.

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    • 57
      Anonymous says:

      I dont understand your point, surely it would be better to make all constituencies roughly the same size ?Conservatives wanted this, why dont they know geography.

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      • 70
        Popeye says:

        His point is obvious, our high flown noble, honest Socialists and Liberals do not want democracy in this country.
        They love to preach it to the rest of the world, but have a fair vote in this country, no way?

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    • 89
      CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

      Only one boundary charge worth looking at. Getting shot of the Scotch.

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      • 152
        Llareggub says:

        Jokes aside, it would be a hilarious unintended consequence of Scotland joining the EU as an independent state. 58 lefty MPs down and 1 righty down.

        bliss

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    • 137
      aathelstan says:

      +1000

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    • 173
      Hamas Spokesman says:

      We can’t wait till our friends in the Labour Party are back in charge, more funding for us from your magic money tree

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    • 192
      Anonymous says:

      Bye bye Tories…

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  2. 2
    TobyG says:

    The seat boundaries will now remain massively biased in labour favour.

    1997, Major got 165 seats from 30.7% share of the vote and 9,600,943 votes.

    2010, Brown got 258 seats from 29% share of the vote and 8,609,527 votes.

    A million less votes than John Major but still almost a hundred more seats.

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    • 8
      tommy5dollar says:

      Turnout was a lot less, you wally.

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    • 44
      Anonymous says:

      you mean throw more of our money at certain people that might vote for them and screw the rest … after pocketing a wedge for themselves and some for self-promotion and other propaganda too?

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      • 85
        T'Old Fella says:

        Isn’t that what the Cons do, the whole political set up stinks, if a company is awarded a very large contract it should be set out any political conections in the HoC and HoL and not kept underwraps

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    • 64
      Anonymous says:

      Why did Lib dems vote “for”.

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    • 107
      TobyG says:

      looks after?! yes, Hull has REALLY come on leaps and bounds in the last 40 years.

      fact: socialists don’t want people to do better for themselves, as it keeps the state in control and the little people in their places.

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    • 153
      EdButLookBalls says:

      Vote early, vote often, it’s the Liebour way!

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    • 156
      A. D. Mocrat says:

      If Joe Public had been offered a real PR system rather than a LimpDumb stitchup version then they may have voted yes to it and Cleggies Clowns wouldn’t have had to take their ball home with them. Fucking rats.

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    • 161
      Chop says:

      “Labour looks after remote regional people better. Get it now?”

      Really?

      Tell that to the clowns who STILL VOTE FOR THE LIARS in Atherton, Leigh & Tyldesley, even after their hospital was closed down (including the A&E that saved my brothers life), forcing any dying folk of the area to travel to Wigan for emergencies…oh, and you have to do that by car too, as there is no train station in Leigh or Tyldsley and very few buses.

      Who is the MP for that area you might ask?

      Andy Burnham

      What was his job, as the hospital was being closed down you ask?

      That would be Secretary of State for Health.

      Yessss, they look after those remote, regional folk splendidly.

      Dolt.

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  3. 3
    Fishy says:

    It was also about 50 greedy piggies voting for their own extinction. Four Tories votes against also. I wonder which way Dorries voted

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    • 140
      YES says:

      50 less Labour seats if Scots vote yes in 2014?

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    • 148
      Windy Trumper says:

      Dorries supported the Government unlike David ‘vanity project by-election’ Davies, Richard Shepherd, Philip Davies and John Baron who all supported the lib-lab pact. Time for deselection?

      Where were Helen Grant and Kenneth Clarke who didn’t manage to vote at all?

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  4. 4
    Nick Clegg says:

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Good keep the tory scum out

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    • 18
      Shocked of Sheen says:

      Anonymous keep out with your foul language.

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        Putr1d Labour ruined my Country says:

        I can’t believe this, Labour ruined this country and wasted 20 years of money and idiots will vote them in again. How bad does it have to get before these idiots realise what they are doing or don’t they care that their children will be paying off Labour’s debt for decades, perhaps centuries?

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    • 73
      Anonymous says:

      But the Labour party didnt get in this time, did they ? who is to say they will at the next election, especially with Milliband at the helm! chickens luvvy, chickens !

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      • 130
        2015 says:

        It’ll be an appalling Liblab coalition full of the worst debt spiralling, indecisive, beardie weirdie, ‘do-as-I-say-not-what-I-do’ champagne guzzling Marxist bedwetters you’ve ever seen.

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      • 193
        Anonymous says:

        Tories in a panic now? Byeeeee.

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  6. 6
    Tom says:

    I think you mean ‘cheering.’ Liquid lunch, was it?

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  7. 10
    Ibrahim from Bradford says:

    We will helps Labour by registering my 74,000 cousins for posting votes.

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  8. 11
    Eye Spy Mp says:

    Have you ever seen us in the same room as ……..

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  9. 13
    jake says:

    biggest mistake the tories ever made – tying up with the libdems, they should have left the last election to labour and watch them drown in thier own shite.
    After which no one would vote labour or libdem left if the lynch mobs had left any!

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    • 21
      Sorry no election..Cameron would have to hand over to Miliband and Labour says:

      Absolutely or at the least gone for Minority Government and then called an election 6 months later in November 2010…

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    • 22
      Four-eyed English Genius says:

      Trouble is, ther would nt have been a country left, either!

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    • 29
      A Patriot says:

      You don’t seem to love this country evry much do you? You’d rather see the place go down the drain in order to make a party political gain. I dislike calculated, narrow minded thinking

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    • 31
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      The biggest mistake the tories ever made was believing Cameron was a conservative.

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      • 42
        The Electorate says:

        True. Funny what a few girls with nice tits wearing t-shirts will blind people to.

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      • 49
        Con Artists. says:

        Our grandfathers would turn in their graves if they could see what a disgrace this government is and how they have given the UK away.

        I fear it will only be civil unrest which will reverse this.

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        • 79
          Anonymous says:

          Thyey were atready spinning like tops after Tony and Gordons tenure ,and grow the ***k up, civil unrest !

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          • Con Artists. says:

            Yes, be it here, Spain or Greece.

            It will be civil unrest which results in the first finger being pulled from the EU dam.

            Your not so naive that you really believe the EU will actually let anyone vote to leave do you ? Grow up.

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          • EuSSR Komrade diktats says:

            If you try to leave or manage your own affairs we vill haff your government removed like Greece and ve vill fly in our own ‘advisors’.

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          • Con Artists. says:

            Zey vil look like a squivd, smell like a squivd and taste just like a squivd viv a black tie and suit

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    • 36
      Jimmy's Fun Fact Of The DAy says:

      The economy grew by more during the twelve months to May 2010 than it has in the 33 months since.

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      • 46
        The Cigarette Salesman on the Corner says:

        That’ll be the official economy. The unmeasured black market economy has been expanding in leaps and bounds since the 20% VAT rate came in.

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      • 103
        Fishy says:

        That’ll be the £4.2 billion of our money that Gordon pumped into benefits to create a mini pre-election boom

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    • 63
      Tax is theft says:

      +100

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      Kavanagh QC says:

      Shoulda, coulda, woulda – this must now ensure Labour’s supremacy at the next election and an end to Top Hat Shiny Face Dave’s and Giddy-up the Towel Folder’s disastrous tenure in Government. And quite right too.

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      • 159
        Anonymous says:

        It will be a disaster if Milliband ever becomes PM, i dont know how you can make childish remarks like you have, when you have a retard as leader !

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    • 104
      T'Old Fella says:

      The biggest mistake the LibDems did was to link with the tories or have had talks with liebore, they should have remained independent

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  10. 14
    Sadsick Khunt says:

    You want chili sauce with your doner? That’ll be £4000. Please make your cheque out to Labour. Thanks.

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  11. 15
    David Cameron says:

    I’m the heir to Heath!

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  12. 17
    Anonymous says:

    why select this item as rigged, don’t politicians try to rig everything

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  13. 20
    The Labour Party says:

    One bribe, one vote

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  14. 23
    Sarah Brown and the Sham Marriage says:

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  15. 24
    kebabmon says:

    All three main parties had reform in their manifesto’s. None of that reform has been implemented and the only change has been no change at all – which is what they wanted all along.

    The electorate have been hoodwinked!

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      The Electorate says:

      No, we have not been hoodwinked. We can see quite clearly what a bunch of lying, self-serving scumbags our Parliament is made up of.

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  16. 25
    Tony gets an award....from Poland says:

    The project to abolish the British acknowledged

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9834609/Tony-Blair-given-award-for-helping-Poles-come-to-the-UK.html

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  17. 26
    Braveheart-less says:

    So what happens if the scots vote in favour of independance in 2014 and we get a labour government after the 2015 general election with 50 plus scottish labour MPs?

    When they pass a Scotland Act that might result in 50 plus scottish MP’s being kicked out of Westminster and handing the government of what remains of the UK back to the Tories.

    It could happen!!

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    • 33
      Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

      God forbid!

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      • 83
        Lord Mandelbum of Fondleboys says:

        Idiots. Labour had big majorities in England alone at the elections in 1997, 2001 and 2005 – the crapola about Scottish Labour MPs is just that – England voted Labour, England got Labour, and look what it’s done to all of the UK.

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      hank the cat says:

      Why are you pretending to be Welsh? suggest you pretend to be a jock or paddy

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  18. 27
    Gordon with the inverted Midas Touch says:

    It shouldn’t be a MPs voting issue. Its the equivalent of calling a vote amongst the unemployed to reduce their benefits – aint gonna happen. The Electoral Commission should be given the mantra of equalized populations within constituencies to be reviewed every 10 years.

    The irony here is that this could be fixed at a stroke if we devolved Scotland – Labour would never get back in again without the cross dressing haggis munchers. Of course, only on the basis that they take on the debt caused by the 2 Scottish banks/Scottish PM and Chancellor during the Labour recession and the oil/gas which is not in Scottish waters remains linked to England – we can “move” the Aberdeen oil capital to Newcastle – a welcome employment boost.

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    • 38
      Bewildered says:

      In my innocence I thought that this was what happened already. The commons vote was a mere technical formality to confirm the Boundary Commission’s decisions. I fail to understand what has changed except the irresponsible and immature behaviour of most politicians.

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      • 48
        So Naive says:

        Have you ever actually looked to see who the mongs on the boundary commission actually are?

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        • 72
          Bewildered says:

          From what I saw of the proposed boundaries, they seemed a fair and equalising set. That is what their remit is, is it not?

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          • Lord Mandelbum of Fondleboys says:

            No 30 is such a lying wanker – Labour had big majorities in England alone at the elections in 1997, 2001 and 2005, so the current state of the whole of the UK is down to how England voted, you effete English nancy boy.

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  19. 28
    Anonymous says:

    I do hope those who voted against Boundary Reform won’t be surprised if Dave does not outflank them again. Following the AV, and in light of the promised EU, referendum, isn’t the obvious next step a referendum on reducing the number of MPs and re-balancing the constituencies? That would be a thoroughly populist no-brainer, wouldn’t it? If you can’t get the Lib-Dems to tow the line, appeal directly to the electorate!

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    Con Artists. says:

    Hahaaa ha ha haaaahaha oh haha haaaa
    Oh god that has cheered me up on this dark miserable day and I got a parking ticket today – it is that funny.

    Until the conservatives get a leader with a backbone stronger than an amoeba in an EU petri dish of turd, who has some frickin gumption, this is all great news.

    The sooner those lying troughing idiots realize they is gonna lose… The sooner they will get rid of amoeba man and get us out of the EU.

    Defeat of the conservatives is but one small step on the path to redemption, painful as the short term may be, its a necessary cost, collateral damage. Remind yourself of that every time you hear the Con servatives lie.

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    • 97
      Anonymous says:

      I would worry about the cretin leading your party if i were you, he makes more of a fool of himself as the weeks go by ! Balls and co coming a close second !

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      • 108
        Con Artists. says:

        I’d rather be a free cretin out of the EU than an impotent slave shackled to the corpse of Federal Europe.

        Think carefully about that.

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  21. 33
    Where are Tony Blair's expenses says:

    Desperate Dave can’t win the next election

    * Boundary changes have not taken place

    * Postal voting has not been resolved

    * Even after his best day for years with his Euro speech UKIP are still trending at 10%

    * Human Rights Act not repealed and Qatada is still here

    * HS1 and now HS2 goes through too many Tory constituencies, single issue candidates will stand in most of them. Some will get in but all will take Tory votes

    * Too many broken promises

    * Gay marriage will lose the Tories 3-5% of their core vote.

    * By the time the election comes round it will finally have dawned on people that public spending actually increase during his time in office and we are still borrowing to make deficit payments

    * No trade union reform so that the likes of Bob Crow can hold the country to ransom

    * Immigrants will not vote Tory and there are too many of them in waht used to be Tory marginal seats in the Midlands, North West and the Yorkshire towns.

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    • 62
      Billericay Dickie says:

      The one thing that you can say about Dave is that he is consistent.

      Consistently shite.

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    • 78
      Con Artists. says:

      The only explanation is that CaMoron is a Labour socialist marxist plant of the same Millitwat seed…

      Somehow, somewhere, Mandelson must have fingered him and little Willy ?

      But where, were they fingered in a Davos hotel room or at a private boys club in St James, or does the fingering go deeper, and back to Bullingdon Uni Fingering ? Somehow and somewhere….

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    • 187
      Tory Party Member says:

      More likely the Tories will lose 50% of their core vote over Gay Marriage. It’s the last straw for many of us together with the wishy-washy approach on Europe. Out of Europe now, no to gay marriage, action on immigration now, kick out the illegals, stop benefit fraudsters, yes to Grammar Schools. Sound like a call for UKIP.

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    FUCK OFF TORY TWATS says:

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    IN YOUR FUCKING FACE TORY BOYS

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  23. 40
    Private James Frazer says:

    We’re all dooooooooooomed! The country will go down like a Glasgow labour councillor in a car park.

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  24. 50
    Chris Huhne says:

    I object !!!!

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  25. 51
    The Libor party says:

    We’ve got the next Election sewn up already.

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  26. 52
    Red ED Miliband says:

    Number 10 here we come! Justine is already measuring the curtains…

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  27. 54
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    Won’t win the election for Labour. Just prevent the Conservatives winning a big Majority.
    But you have to remember that the Lib-dems will lose lots of seats, because they won’t get so many cop-out and protest votes. Being that the Conservatives are main challengers in many of those seats as the Liberals took most of their current seats from them and are not being challenged by Labour in a lot of those, You have to assume that the extra seats the Conservatives win will keep them well ahead of Labour.

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    • 59
      Calamity Clegg says:

      HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLP !!!

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    • 126
      Con Artists. says:

      Christ on bike.
      You seem to have forgotten the irreparable split in conservative voters that will occur and all those that will vote for the UK independence party. So, cons will lose. Writings on the wall pall.

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      • 133
        CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

        I wish you Liebour trolls would come up with something a lot more original.

        TORIES DON’T FVCKING VOTE UKIP. AND THEY HAVE HAS MUCH CHANCE OF SPLITTING THE TORY VOTE AS KATIE PRICE HAS OF SPLITTING AN ATOM!

        We know even Liebour diehards can’t even bring themselves to say “everyone will be voting for Cock and Balls, you wait and see”

        So they cling to the “UKIP will do it for us” line. Fvcking hilarious!

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        • 138
          Con Artists. says:

          Calm down dear….
          its only our sovereignty….

          You sound just like the captain of the titanic with your blind belief con voters haven’t smelt the coffee…

          And that is great, and is also why CaMoron and ilk like you are going down, down hard pal.

          ps, clue, I voted Liebor all my life, never, ever, again.

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        Anonymous says:

        The UKIP candidates will be of poor quality, you only have to look at the people who speak for the party now to see that. Nigel Farage is not Leader material he is too volatile.(for whatever reason )

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        • 174
          Con Artists says:

          I would vote for a monkey if they had the guts and backbone to take us out of the EU, give us control of our borders and retain our sovereignty.

          CaMoron is a spineless liar without a conservative bone in his body, that should be your concern.

          Unfortunatley for the Cons, the debate has moved on, its not about individual personalities, its way beyond that now.

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        • 176
          Matilda says:

          Volatile? Is that because he speaks unpalatable truths to you?

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    • 188
      Handycock (Immigrant Trafficker) says:

      No chance of me losing my seat in Portsmouth. The people love me here, the students too, my friends from the Akash Restaurant and of course my boys will see to it that their tenants carry on voting for me. Boaz.

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  28. 55
    Dave"The One Term Prime Minister" Cameron says:

    Where the heck is Owen Jones when you need him ?

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  29. 67
    pissed off voter says:

    I wonder if there will be any lib dem mps after the next election. Clegg will be ok in an EU role, of course, but what will become of the party lemings?

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  30. 68
    Britain RIP says:

    Today is the day everyone should start making plans to emigrate. Another 5 years of a Labour government, and 100% of the UK will look like this:

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    • 96
      Jimmy says:

      Worst James Brown tribute act ever.

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    • 120
      Airey Belvoir says:

      I’ve just watched a long documentary about poverty in socialist France under Hollande, ‘Les Miserables’ I think it was called. Might happen here under Labour.

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    • 124
      Athelstan says:

      Multi culti gay friendly, feminised, internationalized. modern and vibrant a Britain that has pu behind it the dark days of exceptionalism, backbone and principle.

      I’m so fucking proud to live here now, stabbings in the street, no ability to make or export anything but loads of compliance.

      We rae no completely finished. And Dave it’s down to your treacherous accopmmodation with made in Brussels Clegg.

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    • 163
      Arab nuclear race says:

      And they all want the bomb too.

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  31. 75
    EU Watch says:

    Why not just follow the example of European referendums and re-run the b!ll until we get the correct result ?

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  32. 81
    They don't like it up 'em says:

    Looks like the preppers are right, after all.

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    • 122
      Long but interesting says:

      Germany Just Fired a Warning Short on the Fed

      Germany has the second largest Gold reserves in the world behind the US. Since the early ’80s, it has stored the majority of these reserves with the NY Fed (45% vs. 13% in London, 11% in Paris and the remaining 31% in Frankfurt).

      With that in mind, everyone needs to be aware that last Monday Germany’s Bundesbank announced it will be moving a major portion of its reserves from the US and all of its reserves from France back to Frankfurt.

      Nearly half of Germany’s gold reserves are held in a vault at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York — billions of dollars worth of postwar geopolitical history squirreled away for safe keeping below the streets of Lower Manhattan.

      Now the German central bank wants to make a big withdrawal — 300 tons in all.

      On Wednesday, the Bundesbank said that it would begin moving some of the reserves, the second-largest stock in the world after that of the United States. The goal is to house more than 50 percent of German gold in Bundesbank vaults in Frankfurt by 2020, up from a little less than a third today, the bank said…

      The new policy will include the complete withdrawal of 374 tons of German gold stored at the Banque de France in Paris, about 11 percent of the total. Bundesbank officials were quick to note that the decision was not a reflection of French trustworthiness. Rather, because France and Germany now share the euro, there is no need for reserves as insurance against currency crises
      Source: NY Times.

      This announcement came with the usual political statements that the decision had nothing to do with a lack of trust between the Bundesbank and the US Fed or Bank of France, but the message is obvious: Germany sees the writing on the wall and is moving to secure its Gold reserves.

      Remember, Germany has spent the better part of two years preparing for financial chaos. Since the autumn of 2011, it has:

      1) Implemented legislation that would permit Germany to leave the Euro but remain a part of the EU.

      2) Revived its Special Financial Market Stabilization Funds, or SoFFin for short, allocating 480 billion Euros to the fund (and also providing German banks with a place to dump their Euro-zone Government bonds if they need to).

      3) Implemented reforms that would allow it to close off its borders for as long as 30 days if it needed to (so individuals and capital couldn’t leave Germany)

      4) Created a working group to assess both the economic impact of a Greek exit from the Euro as well as how to manage the impact of a collapse in France.

      5) Pulling all of its Gold from France as well as a major portion of its Gold from the US.

      All of these are verifiable facts that the Western Media has avoided talking about. It is very easy to connect the dots here: Germany is implementing a contingency plan to put a firewall around its financial system for when the EU finally breaks down.

      A final note here: the tension between the world’s Central Banks just increased dramatically.

      Since the Great Crisis began in 2008, the world’s Central Banks have collectively pumped $10 trillion into the global financial system. Every major Central Bank from Germany to the US and China wants to debase its currency to benefit exports and facilitate dealing with its debt load (even China sports a real Debt to GDP north fo 200%).

      This competitive debasement has lead to increased tension between the world’s Central Banks. You will never hear their stated outright for the simple reason that the single most important responsibility of the Central Banks is to maintain confidence in the system.

      However, underneath the veneer of goodwill and the occasional necessary coordinated intervention, tensions are rising between Central Banks. When the US debases the US Dollar it pushes the Euro higher. This hurts German exports which in turn angers the Bundesbank.

      The Bundesbank fired a warning shot at the Fed last autumn when it announced it wanted to have its Gold reserves at the Fed audited. To be clear here: no one of major financial import has ever questioned the Fed’s trustworthiness before. However, at the time of this announcement Germany stated it had no intentions of actually moving its reserves.

      Fast-forward to today and Germany has not only audited and checked its Gold reserves at the Fed but it is now moving them. In plain terms, Germany has told the world that A) it does not trust the Fed and B) it is through playing around.

      This situation will likely be getting worse going forward. The fact that Germany will be removing all of its Gold reserves from France certainly doesn’t bode well for future German French relations if push ever comes to shove (it’s not as though Europe has a history of getting along well).

      Remember, the only thing holding the financial system together is belief in the Central Banks. If the Central Banks (it was Germany’s Bundesbank that is behind the Gold move) stop trusting one another or grow openly antagonistic, then things will get very bad very quickly.

      For months now we’ve been asserting that the “improvements” in the global economy and financial system were a mirage. Germany’s move has confirmed this. If the financial system was in fact safe and the global economy was improving, Germany would not feel the need to repatriate its Gold.

      Which begs the question, what exactly do German Central Bankers know that we don’t?

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      • 136
        Jimmy Goldsmith's smile says:

        Thank you for reading between the lines and laying it all out so succinctly. We all knew “things can’t go on like this” for ever. Actions speak louder than words and the Germans clearly know that the game’s (almost) up. Now for the Grande Finale!

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      • 149
        Gold Watch says:

        What has spooked the Germans is likely the ongoing ‘currency wars’.

        In short, governments of developed nations are insolvent. This may not be obvious right now, but looking at projected tax receipts vs. social security obligations, the writing is there in pretty big letters.

        J@pan is the primary case in point: The government there are on the record recently asking people to die sooner. US and many others have exactly the same problem.

        When the tax receipts are published later this year it will be clear that sovereign bond defaults are inevitable. On the other side, it is becoming more apparent that Ch!na and other ‘growth’ nations are lying through their teeth on the figures.

        This of course will lead to three things:

        i) Collapse of trust in the global financial system.
        ii) Collapse of trust between creditor and debtor nations.
        iii) Military conflict.

        The first two will be resolved by a switch back to using gold as medium of exchange for international settlements. The third should hopefully not be global.

        Add on a global food shortage and you have a fairly nasty outlook for the year ahead.

        As Germany ships Gold back from the US there may be some ‘lost’: Keeping my eye out for either a cargo plane or container ship going down somewhere in the Atlantic in an area where it will be very difficult to find / recover.

        It isn’t just Germany though. Azerbaijan are repatriating their new reserves (they have a ton and are adding, that is currently in London), and German gold has already been transferred out of London.

        It will be interesting to see though if Germany decides to put this gold up as collateral to back the currently unfunded obligations which the Euro has exposed their economy to. One suspects though that Germany may be the first country to exit the Euro.

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      • 150
        HenryV says:

        I posted a link to a press story about the German “withdrawal” on a forum I visit under a title of something like the “End is Nigh”. Not one reply. Lots of views. No replies at all. Might be time to get the Anderson shelter cleared out.

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  33. 84
    Note to UKIP says:

    The Lib Dems just denied the UK voter the right to a referendum on EU.

    No spin required, just prime and pump.

    Go get ‘em.

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    • 117
      lola says:

      +1

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    • 170
      Con Artists says:

      Cast Iron Dave was never going to give the vote anyway – so that’s a false flag pal and nothing lost there.

      More importantly, it guarantees that the Cons will 100% lose the election – game over. Now that’s hilarious.

      With UKIP quite rightly hoovering into both big and small majorities as it chimes with popular opinion, grass roots activists ignored and deserting in droves, electorate participation down, Liebor postal votes from the ‘community’ up, taxs up, hospitals closing or overcrowded and 10 million new Romanians and Bulgarians coming in 11 months time to steal the tarmac off your drive, the Conservatives will be unelectable for decades and are well and truely fcuked.

      The Cons need wholesale reform, top to bottom. They will not change their EU troughing ways or remove their greedy snout from the EU money trough until they have been given a real beating.

      They need to be completely rebuilt, root and branch, grow some kind of backbone (god knows where its going to come from mind) and develop policies which are – wait for it – DIFFERENT FROM LABOURS….

      Until the Cons offer a different choice, and by that I mean take us OUT OF THE EU and control our borders, they are quite simply unelectable.

      In the meantime vote with your heart, and vote with your conscience.

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      • 178
        Catty Comment (Ms) says:

        Dave’s offer of a referendum was complete and utter bullshyte from start to finish.

        IF, the Cons win the next election… Ho hum…

        IF BY SOME MIRACLE THEY DO THEN he will chat to the EU about the odd reforms he would like – ALL of which will have to be negotiated with the other 25+ members of the EU who will have to agree unanimously to the changes, and then pass through their legislatures all the necessary treaty amendments.. {cloud cuckoo land hereabouts}

        AND all in less than 2 1/2 years to meet his deadline of “the first half of the next parliament”.

        Assuming the moon is actually made of green cheese and that he is successful….

        THEN he will have to arrange for the necessary conditions to be put in place for a no doubt dodgy referendum which will entirely geared at seeing the UK even more firmly entrenched in this cesspit, as the procedure cannot be repeated for at least another 50 years. Meanwhile immigrants from the rest of the rols will continue pouring in by the boatload.

        WHEN will the people of this once sceptred isle wake the fuck up to the fact that they have been well and truly conned over the past 50 years – and actually DO something about to rid us of the scum politicians who brought this upon us?

        Interesting article above about Germany being the first to leave the EU. Maybe we should just tag along on their coat-tails.

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        • 179
          Catty Comment (Ms): Edit says:

          *For ‘rols’ read ‘world’.
          * 3rd line from bottom, delete ‘about’

          Sorry, sticky thumbs again.

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  34. 87
    oh dear says:

    Tory attempt to gerrymander boundaries to their own benefit lost because Tories, for their own benefit, ratted on deal with LibDems.

    Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of scum.

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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    • 115
      TobyG says:

      the LimpDem ‘grubby little deal’ was a total waste of time and money. ST-V would’ve been far fairer but possibly too complex for the public to understand.

      Given the overwhelming success of coalition governments world wide, I am quite glad we didn’t vote for that pathetic sop to minor parties. With exception, the one in Europe somewhere (Belgium?)which has meant the country has been without a government for over a year and has proven quite successful.

      FACT: Limp Dems asked for and got a AV referendum AND consultation on Lords Reform (not a promise to ram it through) they have failed to dictate the end results in these (entirely their fault) and now quite typically throwing all their toys out the pram.

      Pathetic.

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    • 191
      Anonymous says:

      Gerrymander, you spavined little cretin? How is making constituencies a roughly equal size gerrymandering? Why not fill your pockets with stones and wade slowly into the sea?

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  35. 94
    lola says:

    Fairness?

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  36. 95
    He's a future Labour MP. Be afraid says:

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    • 111
      Billericay Dickie says:

      Is he being coached by Lord Mendelsohn of Bummingham?

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    • 167
      Arab nuclear race says:

      Where did this oily weasel-like little shitefest spring from? He’s so worried about ‘crippling debt’ from student fees but praises his Labour overlords and seems entirely carefree concerning the 13 years of Labour crippling debt.

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    • 171
      Rory Weasel says:

      https://twitter.com/RoryWeal

      Quite disturbing how he just parrots the Partei line mindlessly at 16 years old. Like some soviet education camp victim or Hitler youth. Ed said this..Ed said that…Evil tories this..evil tories that… blah blah

      For most of this little scrote’s existence he spent it in Labour’ supposed boom years so how can things be so terrible according to him in just 2 years.

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  37. 112
    Now the fat lady has sung says:

    If the coalition collapses soon enough today’s vote means that the new boundaries (Sep 2018) won’t apply to the next TWO general elections. An incentive for LAB to have a vote of no confidence?

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  38. 114
    Socialism = starvation says:

    Cameron could sack all Lib Dem ministers, why not if they don’t keep their promises as MPs?

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    • 180
      Yup, me again says:

      Plagiarism is your friend. I said that yesterday. Still, I suppose it shows some people do actually read posts on this forum.

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  39. 118
    Idle corrupt mendacious MP says:

    Today is a good day!

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  40. 121
    Athelstan says:

    This is a tragic day.
    I don’t think the country can stand another socialist EUSSR/unlimited immigration government.

    Who will remain after 2015? To pay for it all? To watch a once great country reduced to an EU vassal?

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    • 146
      SEETHING says:

      It’s time for a fucking revolution. Insidious, treacherous creeps Ed and Nick can hang from Tower Bridge, while crows peck out their shift little eyes.

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  41. 123
    stewartedwards says:

    Before I launch into this, let me say that I do agree with Cameron that change is necessary, I just disagree with how he has done it.

    Government policies are failing left right and centre. Even this weeks Panorama showed how the treasured profit motive has failed with regard to wefare reform – what a suprise – companies allegedly lying to get bids, and then allegedly trousering cash instead of helping people – who would ever have guessed that the payment by results incentive could be so abused? Common bleeding sense, for that is what happens when you focus on money.

    Hopefully one day our politial parties will stop playing politics and start to govern wisely for the good of all. Nineteenth century economics dont work in 21st century Britain. Duh!!

    Instead of worrying about boundary reform, why not add up all the cash you have wasted on unnecessary changes and filling the coffers of private companies at the exense of the people of this nation? A much more targetted approach would have been much cheaper, more effective, and less harmful to the social fabric of this nation.

    To quote Jesse J “I wonder how they sleep at night”….possibly very well as they hope for future directorships from companies that have made a killing at the direct expense of British taxpayers and citizens.

    Boundary changes!!!

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    • 151
      Economist says:

      This is what happens when capitalism is disrupted and moral hazard is allowed to flourish.

      Many warned of this back in 2007, and before.

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  42. 128
    Magic money tree says:

    Looks like the Tories are going to have revert to the magic moneytree.

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    • 155
      Mutually assured Labour destruction says:

      They might just as well coz labour will absolutely let rip in 2015

      You have been warned

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  43. 132
    VERITAS says:

    Sunderland has three parliamentary constituencys about 70k electorate of these about 30per cent are in receipt of some form of benefit,that excludes the state pension,Labour have held all of these seats since the early sixties with large majorities,its probably the same in most metro cities gerrymandering is alive and well helped by large helpings of handouts paid for by the working taxpayer,this country is f….d.if you hant paid tax int he previous 5 years and are not on state pension then no vote then we would get a true reflection of what democracy in the modern day should be about.

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    • 186
      Ukipper Skipper says:

      Why give pensioners the vote? Not like they contribute.

      I agree entirely that only taxpayers should be allowed to vote. I would go further and say that only those on higher rate tax should get a vote. Earning any less? Wouldn’t trust you with a knife for the butter, if you can’t make a half decent living.

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  44. 134
    Jess The Dog says:

    Well, if the Tories hadn’t killed off Lords reform… serves em right.

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    • 141
      aathelstan says:

      on that subject surely cameron’s revenge is to reistate the heriditaries right now.

      He needs only 25 to call the real House of Lords together and igniore all the effnick “baronesses” created by Bliar

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      • 181
        Catty Comment (Ms) says:

        Here here. Time to stop farting around any more and start playing hardball with the Libdemshytes.

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  45. 154
    Dazed and confused says:

    Odd really the Scots Nats vote withe party that would deny them independence yet in 2014 will vote against then to ensure Labour MPs removed from Westminster more than balancing the numbers.

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  46. 160
    Anonymous says:

    How do you work that one out ?

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  47. 168
    Marian says:

    Simples – all Dave has to do is let Scotland go independent and he’s got 40 fewer Labour MP’s to worry about!

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  48. 169
    Incorrectly political says:

    So much for democracy! Why is my vote worth less than another? This issue should be above petty politics. Now will Conservatives recognise the back-stabbing LibDems for what they are, fairweather friends?

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    • 183
      Catty Comment (Ms) says:

      Doubtful under the present lovey-dovey rose garden leadership.

      And why is Cameroon going to Algeria? They will totally ignore him and, hopefully, send him away with a flea in his ear.

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  49. 175
    Edward. says:

    Boundary reforms, give us a break, ZaNu Liebour have the postal vote sewn up, no need to panic, Ed’s little helpers will sort it – like they did in Manchester Central and Rotherham just recently.

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    • 184
      Catty Comment (Ms) says:

      Maybe, but had the reforms been passed, they would have had 30 or so fewer constituencies in which to play that card.

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  50. 185
    Fog says:

    That then is the end.

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