January 25th, 2013

WATCH: David Ward Car Crash Sky “Jews” Interview

David Ward has gone rogue and just had a Mel Gibson moment live on Sky News:

 “I’m accusing the Jews who did it,  [nervous laugh] so if you’re a Jew and you did not do it I’m not accusing you. I’m saying that those Jews who did that and continue to do it have not learned those lessons. If you are a Jew and you do not do those things and have never done those things then I am not criticising you.”

He goes on to say that he can think of no better day than Holocaust Memorial Day to raise these issues. A LibDem spokesman tells Guido “he is very much acting on his own”…

Here is how the story unfolded:

170 Comments

  1. 1
    CarryHole is a stupendous Hunt says:

    It’s a form of mental health test. People who go nuts start going on about a j3w1sh conspiracy, or maybe they’re repeating the idiocy of the colonists in his ward?

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      The Tap says:

      You rang?

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      Archer Karcher says:

      Emma Nicholson is another Lib-Dim, everything is the Juice fault loon, don’t forget. They must have an entrance exam at Lib-Dim central, to weed all the nutters in.

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      No Chance of getting that out of me for this! says:

      Sorry to be a pedant and I am sure I will be condemned in the most absolute way for asking it, but could someone outline what it is he has said wrong. I am sorry I just don’t get it. If someone could point it out then perhaps I will and will not therefore make the same mistake. PS it is that I agree with what he said but nor can I see what is so offensive about it.

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        Jimmy says:

        I think there are two factors here: Firstly, although traditionally fairly relaxed about racism, to be fair most righties (and there are exceptions) would accept that the holocaust may have been overdoing it a tad and there is a tendancy at times in rowing back to overcompensate occasionally; the second factor is that our increasingly diverse society has brought righties into contact with ethnic groups they hate even more, making jews seem comparatively quite tolerable.

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        No Chance of getting that out of me for this! says:

        That should be
        PS it is NOT that I agree with what he said

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          Mrs Crewe says:

          What he said wrong….Mmmm it may come as a shock to you but “Jews” can be called people. As in “I’m not accusing those people who did it”. Further more unless one is a completly biased blinkered racist pig moron there is no way you can compare the systematic murdering of Jewish Gay and Disabled people (to name but a few) to the past and current problems is the Middle East.

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          • Anonymous says:

            The systematic ethnic cleansing of an indigenous people from their Land by violent and unethical means is pretty high up there in the crimes against humanity stakes. If all those MPs who are members of the various “…friends of ZIon” clubs can’t see that then they are ethically deficient scum themselves.

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      • 75
        The Grand Mufti says:

        He said the Jews, y’know all of them acting in concert, Do you, for a minute think that he would condemn Hizbollah by calling them The Moslems?

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        D'Jango says:

        He’s assuming a moral and factual equivalence between the holocaust and the policy Israel has towards the Palestinians. He’s also describing Israelis as Jews which isn’t really a kosher (geddit!) remark to make. Before any rabid anti Semites go off on one think about it for a moment, do we describe British citizens, politicians or soldiers as Anglicans?

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          Anonymous says:

          Good points. It’s like those scum who equate the strategic bombing campaign of WW2 with the shoa. But so long as they use a variation of the magic formula “I’m not attacking the brave aircrew, just Sir Arthur Harris for ordering them,” they get away with it.

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    • 69
      CarryHole is a stupendous Hunt says:

      http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=300848

      Hamas To Establish Military Academy For Schoolkids

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      Not the Taffy Twat says:

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      Troll's are Cunt's says:

      Now’t to say as experts have spoken.

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  2. 2
    I Fist my own Arse by Using my Own Head says:

    ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  3. 3
    Jen The Blue says:

    Surely he’s an “ex-Lib Dem” by now?

    Or is Clegg deficient in the testicle department?

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      Anonymous says:

      Criticising Is r a e l gets *british* MPs fired. And then you say there’s no conspiracy…
      All the more reason to shun Is r a e l!

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  4. 5
    Anonymous says:

    He’s finished.

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  5. 6
    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    His stupidity in failing to differentiate between j e w i s h people and the Isra eli State is staggering.

    But then we have to remember this man is a fellow lib dem of mike hancock who is another doubtful character in the lib dem stable.

    Why do people vote for these very poor calibre mps?

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    • 30

      The modern preference appears to be for people who can talk non-stop rather than those who can engage their brains before they do so.

      This old saying perhaps sums it up best: A politician is someone who approaches every problem with an open mouth.

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    • 123
      Blowing Whistles says:

      The letts diary of quotes
      Under June 9

      “It is our experience that political leaders do not always mean the opposite of what they say” Abba Eban, 1915-2002. Israeli politician.

      Comment – ‘always’ – umm

      Me – taking note of all of the comments today – long term – the real truth has already started to out. It started outing when Communism fell in 1991. Ergo – until then – the real truth had been quite well concealed. Time to rethink what especially the 60 to 80 year olds have been ‘told’ for most of their lives … BIG BIG LIES – I suggest.

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      • 145
        Extremely ancient seafarer says:

        But quite a few of us also have our own brain power you know… and eyes to see.

        Not all dumfux like the majority of today’s yoof.

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    Anonymous says:

    He’s finished as an MP after this.

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      Wanda Ringhands says:

      He can always get a job at the BBC though

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    • 51
      Tnuc a S'eloc Yrrah says:

      Not so sure, the other Bradford MP is a Respect hunt. It’s a very ‘enriched’ place these days.

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      Old Bradfordian says:

      As a constituant of Mr Ward’s I suggest he does the honourable thing, packs his bags and takes the Chitlerns as it were …………….
      oh but I forgot he’s of the “liberal left” ……. they don’t do the honourable thing do they ……….
      Now where is that “right of recall” his party leader kept banging on about in those pre-election days ……… oh thats right its vanished when the libs got the only whiff of power they are likely ever to see.
      One wonders what section of his voters he is trying to appeal to with this rubbish???? ….answers on a post card please.

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      • 103
        Anonymous says:

        bub bub bub ding ding – I tell you what section of vters – I drop you at my cousins kebab shop before I collect next housing and disability payment innit.

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    • 109
      Anonymous says:

      Your statment proves that the “conspiracists” are absolutely right.

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    BiBi N says:

    The Israeli lobby needs to grow up and realise that occasionally Israel is fallible. Just because their people suffered under Hitler does not excuse them from criticism.

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      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      Had this mp been a journalist working for a paper like the graudian who pribably agree with his views, his right to express these views, however unpleasant, would be fine.

      He’s not, he’s an MP belonging to the lib dem party and as such required to express the views of his party – that’s his job. He’s not doing his job – clear and simple!

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    • 18
      Mike Davies says:

      He didn’t say Israelis, he said Jews. And he keeps repeating the Jews need to “learn the lessons of the holocaust”.

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    • 32

      Of course the Israelis are fallible.

      But the BBC is not, is it?

      Nor the Grauniad, is it?

      Nor David Ward, is he?

      As for the Palestinians, well they can never, ever, ever be wrong, can they?

      This could be carried on into a very long list but if you don’t get it by now, there is no point.

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  8. 10

    Why can’t he just say “Israeli” instead. Is he a complete idiot? (yes, I know there are Arab Muslim Israelis).

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      The Grand Mufti says:

      Not an idiot, playing to those in his electorate who believe in the protocols of the learned elders of zion.
      T

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        Anonymous says:

        Protocols not needed, it’s all there in the Tal mud. Quite an eyeopener! Check out ” talmud tidbits “

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      Casual Observer says:

      If he said that he could be branded racist. He is directing his comments at a religion so ‘safe’.

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    George Smith says:

    Not learned those lessons? What lessons are those, the lessons of the holocaust? He can’t truly be likening the holocaust to Palestine?

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      Jen The Blue says:

      He can because he’s a twisted lefty.

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        Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

        He can because the comparison is valid. It seems this blog is polluted by a Mossad troll program.

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      I rather think he has. He thinks the oppression of the Palestinians is of the same order as the deliberate murdering of an entire race.

      But then lefty rhetoric always goes over the top. A ‘freedom fighter’ blowing up a market place is ‘justified’ under some sort of lefty Red October rationalisation.
      The police shooting dead that same terrorist are fascist pigs propping up an uncaring dictatorship. {except in Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina where they believe the exact opposite is true.}

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        Anonymous says:

        Except the Israelis would be incredibly happy if the Palestinian race were to disappear tomorrow and have no qualms about killing them, even young children. Gaza resembles nothing more than a massive concentration camp.

        Surely oppression is wrong wherever it may be found and whoever may be perpetrating it.

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        • 96

          No. You make the same case as save the children in equating poverty of UK kids with those in Ethiopia. They are in no way comparable, except in the minds of political opponents.

          There are degrees and shades of everything. Whatever the Israelix have done is as nothing compared to the holocaust. The casualties of all the sides in the conflict, including all the casualties from the three wars, suicide bombing and gunship attacks from 1948 to today, are LESS than the casualties already suffered in Syria in the last year.

          To equate the Israelx with the nazis is to say British soldiers in Ireland were the same as knights Templar crusaders in the Middle Ages.

          It’s just lazy, and probably wishful thinking to even begin to think they might be.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Yet they believe an invisible sky pixie gave their race that land and they have a right to evict the indigenous who are inferior. Does that ring a bell?

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          • Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

            The problem is not all Israelis, just as it was never all Germans. The problem is their leadership. The comparison made is valid. Ariel Sharon was accused of war crimes similar to those of the Nazis in the official Israeli report on the Lebanese invasion.

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    @nby83 says:

    Gob smacked, I can’t believe it. That is so daft I can hardly believe someone has said it

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      Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

      Gob smacked. I can’t believe it. That someone could be so daft as to not recognise the truth when it is stated.

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  11. 14
    Mel Gibson says:

    That’s my boy

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    Ex-Tory says:

    Just replace Jews with Muslims and change the context to the treatment of Christains in any number of Islamic nations or Al-Queda, then the Left would be spitting dummies; the BBC would be in overdrive.

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      Anonymous says:

      But… the leader of the left is Jewish! Not only that, so was the other main contender who happens to be his brother!

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  13. 16
    keredybretsa says:

    Amazing really this Dishonourable MP, just goes on from bad to worse. This story won’t go away in a hurry.

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    Terrible But True says:

    “A LibDem spokesman tells Guido “he is very much acting on his own”…”

    They need to get Helen Boaden and a clutch of BBC FoI exclusion lawyers around asap.

    Then you can have ‘make the nasty man go away’ disclaimers like this one from one of their many professional, objective Middle East reporter’s twitter feeds:

    Jon Donnison
    @JonDonnison
    BBC Gaza and West Bank Correspondent. Cyclist. Views mine. Rewteets, #Tags not endorsements.
    West Bank + Gaza · http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/middle_east/

    See, nothing to do with the BBC.

    Well, other than the company name and website link.

    Looks like they can have Mr. Ward as a Newsnight special correspondent before Chris Patten can say ‘stepping aside on double what was needed’.

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  15. 20
    Ken Livingstone says:

    He’s not a Nazi, he’s more like a camp guard really

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  16. 21
    Watcher says:

    Liberal MP. Nothing more need be said.

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  17. 23
    Mike Newland says:

    Everyone accepts you are entitled to criticise Israel.

    In theory…

    Disclaimer: No words here are intended to convey any criticism of Israel.

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      Tnuc a S'eloc Yrrah says:

      Critisism is one thing, pathetically over the top comparisone and OTT equivalence mongering, is entirely another.

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        Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

        How is it over the top when the official Israeli enquiry found Sharon guilty of similar crimes to the Nazis?

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    Truthteller says:

    What is the truth?

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  19. 25

    David Ward MP: What lessons have been learned?

    He should begin by addressing that question to himself because, despite his advanced years (60 this June) and also his visits to the concentration camps, the answer seems to be precisely as follows:

    Nothing

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      rebekah aka nellnewman says:

      Oi! You be careful about saying 60 is ‘advanced years’!!

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      • 68

        OK, junior!

        By advanced, I mean someone who is old enough by now to know better. It would normally be a compliment – but in his case it cannot be.

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          rebekah aka nellnewman says:

          LOL!

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          rebekah aka nellnewman says:

          Actually I was just sitting here thinking about him and your comment that he is 60.

          It occurs to me that he has probably said to himself I shall be 63 in 2015 and maybe it’s time for me to take my gold plated MPs pension, kindly paid for by the taxpayer, and move on to a life of idle luxury.

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          Blowing Whistles says:

          SC – I beg to differ with your opinion.

          You said “… someone who is old enough by now to know better.”

          How do you SC know better? what says you are better informed? have you researched thoroughly matters and evidence which have ‘come to light’ since the downing of Communism or is your comment purely from your lifetime of ‘possibly’ having been indoctrina.ted into one version of events as they have been portrayed since 1945?

          I mentioned miscarriages of justice earlier today elsewhere – the point being

          When new evidence of a crime does come to light years or decades after an event – the new evidence cannot be ignored. For “ignorance of the truth is NO EXCUSE”. Take huhne as an example.

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          • @BW I was in a hurry because I was going out for a meal with some nice friends of mine, so maybe I did not chose my words with quite the normal care.

            What, of course, I had meant to say was: someone who is old enough by now that they should have known better.

            Hume’s fork strikes again. (Never mind, the meal was lovely without it amongst the cutlery.)

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      WatTylersGhost says:

      I’ve passed through Oxford and Cambridge and have gained no degree – it’s not where you’ve been, it’s what you’ve learnt while you’ve been there – in his case, nothing.

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      Frederick Gideon Threepwood says:

      Cat; I have normally found your comments more insightful and sensible than usual on this site. I suggest you read the Israeli report on the Lebanese invasion if you belive Ward’s comments are completely OTT. You may change your mind.

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    Jessica, Nancy and Ginger Noton says:

    What a complete dickhead.

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    Edinburgh socialist dogshite says:

    Apologise! Hoon

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    Universal Hiss says:

    He sounds very,very stupid but he is a Libdem so it’s not surprising.

    Why not put your hands up & say sorry I should have said elbow when I did say arse.

    Should be funny on CIF though.Nothing like this to get the foaming at the mouth pro Palestine posters er,foaming.

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    rebekah aka nellnewman says:

    It’s almost as though he accidentally shot himself in the foot the first time and then when the full media spotlight was on him he said ‘wait a minute I need to make that official’ and proceeded to shoot himself in the other foot!!

    what a wally!!

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  24. 35
    Terry Lean says:

    If you criticised the ‘Welsh’ rather than specifically saying ‘Wales’ would there be this fuss. Politically motivated victim mongering.

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      Taffy Apple says:

      Go fuck yourself you southern student poof. Our universities are only for welshers. You nancy boyos can pay full whack in whatever failed university you choose to get a loan from.

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    Operation Crossbow says:

    Oh my gof Alex Crawford has once again got her tin hat on. This woman spouts more shit than George Galloway (she thiks tanks are penis’s for some reason) and is more bonkers than Kay Burley.

    I fear for the French.

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    • 46
      Gooey Blob says:

      Don’t fear for the French, fear for France. The French are getting out, and many are coming to cities around the UK. Not just London, either. Many UK cities have French communities.

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        CarryHole is a stupendous Hunt says:

        Saw a few Le Monde readers at the IOD this week.

        Anyone who can is leaving.

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          Swollen Glands says:

          Wouldn’t be for the first time, that is where the crystal glass workers of Stourbridge came from.

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    Anonymous says:

    I really would prefer if Guido would give a reasoned explanation of why this man’s comments are unspeakably appalling, rather than engaging in “two legs bad, four legs good” condemnation. I seem not to be the only one.

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      Really? says:

      You can’t figure this out all by yourself?
      Do you need a history book and a calender to show you what day it is?

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      • 57
        Terry Lean says:

        Honestly I can’t work it out. Please advise.

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          Really? says:

          OK-here’s some help. Go to Google..type in ‘genocide – multi-million deaths and unspeakable brutality for racial reasons, Europe, 1933-1945′

          Then type ‘ what day is holocaust day?’ into wikianswers and see if any vague connection forms in your noodle.

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          • Anonymous says:

            1.distract by sympathy.
            2.minimise by sympathy.
            3.truth is the truth.
            4.everlasting. (our masters wish to live forever)
            5.unchanging. (our master will have ageless artificial bodies)
            6.will darkness remain protected?
            7.will truth last forever, despite beckam or chanel.

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          • Extremely ancient seafarer says:

            … and all these years of blindness (acc BW), I have been under the impression that only diamonds are forever.

            How I have been misled!

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          Anonymous says:

          Here’s a clue, when it comes to Israel, Guido is a neo con and refuses to accept that Israel can be criticised in any way shape or form. Even when it’s shooting innocent civilians and palestinian children.

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      • 58
        Anonymous says:

        Perhaps you might enlighten us … He said (1) the Germans treated the Jews badly and (2) the Israelis are treating the Palestinians badly. Is either statement false? Or is the objection something more subtle?

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      Universal Hiss says:

      Read the responses. May give you a clue.

      Nothing over at the Guardian yet. Bit slow out of the trap?

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  27. 54
    Anonymous says:

    A politician who actually says what he believes?

    Very brave indeed?

    or a complete idiot?

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      Dave - balls of steel - Cameron says:

      Free speech has no place in our glorious country.

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      reality check says:

      A poster who doesn’t actually understand that the answer to that question depends on what it is that the politician believes?

      Very stupid indeed?

      or a complete wazzock?

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    Hackney Cabbie says:

    Are there any Gentiles in the Israeli Govt? “The Jews” sounds so anti Semitic

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      Catty Comment (Ms) says:

      Hey Moishe, there’s a rather tubby dark-hued female who is waiting on the corner of Mare Street if you happen to be passing that way.

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    I LOVE MY EU GOLD PLATED PENSION says:

    the jobless rate in Spain hit 26 per cent at the end of last year – or 5.97 million – the highest figure since the mid-1970s.
    More than 2,000 Spaniards a day joined the dole queue in the last three months of 2012 as the economy sank deeper into recession.

    The crisis has been particularly painful for the young with around 60 per cent of Spaniards aged 16 to 24 who want a job unable to find work.
    The misery has been echoed across Europe since the financial crisis struck and unemployment in the eurozone has risen by 2 million in the past 12 months to an all-time high of 18.8 million.
    There is now a record 3.7 million under-25s out of work.

    Unemployment is a price well worth paying to save Germany, sorry the EU I mean, and the Deutschmark, sorry the Euro!

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  30. 65
    Anonymous says:

    So its 22 quid for a pizza in davos. Fat old etonians getting fatter at taxpayers expense. Are we still all in it together? Are is that just for the rest of us? It’s possible to forget after 13 years abatement what utter unelectable nasty pricks the tories are.

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      reality check says:

      “Or” is not spelt “are”. There are expensive restaurants in other places than Davos, and labour politicians eat in them at the taxpayer’s expense. And you are not very bright.

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      A Yorkie Yokel says:

      “utter unelectable etc”. Not quite the view of the vast majority of real English persons. Without the gerrymandered Scotch riffraff vote we would now be enjoying a proper Conservative government instead of the colossal train crash we now have.

      Enjoy your big Mac.

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    Doomed I say... doomed ! says:

    What a wanker !!

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    What a dickhead says:

    David Ward would do well to leave the jews to mourn their past in peace. He should keep his biased views for another time. He will never make it as a peace maker.

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    Wtf? says:

    The pallies attacked the jews in the last conflict. The jews hit back and pallies used the media to complain about the jews defending themselves. The soppy media made out that it was the pallies that were the victims and not the jews,even though the pallies started the last conflict. Totally fucked up. The media just makes it worse.

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    total number of world war two deaths… 63 million.

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    Brown out and pay me damages says:

    Well dodgy.

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    Badgers everywhere says:

    ”I’m accusing the socialists who did it, [nervous laugh] so if you’re a socialist and you did not do it I’m not accusing you. I’m saying that those socialists who did that and continue to do it have not learned those lessons. If you are a socialist and you do not do those things and have never done those things then I am not criticising you.”

    could almost be an explanation of how the UK got into the mess it is today!

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    Goodwin says:

    Ward has got the balls to speak the unspeakable. The continued oppression of the Palestinians – 64 years in a refugee camp anyone? – has to be the greatest crime against humanity since the holocaust and for some reason, no bugger in government gives a toss. Given that Israel doesn’t have oil, precisely what hold do they have over western governments? It can’t just be selective guilt?

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      Blowing Whistles says:

      To G/win

      You Said – “It can’t just be selective guilt?” -Try ‘False debts’ due to usury racketeering, profiteering, propaganda, blackmail, entrapment etcetera ….

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      BBC Disinfotainment Commissioning Team says:

      ‘Greatest crime since the holocaust’.

      Yes, all those Jewish-owned camps where Palestinians are being marched to gas chambers. Except there are no gas chambers -nor any Israeli policy to exterminate anyone for that matter.

      Oh, and the forcing of generations of Palestinians into concentration camps is carried out -exclusively- by their fellow Arabs and RoP’ers. Think about it and come back when you get some perspective.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    What was it that Peter Oborne implied in his recent article – oh yes 80% of elected MP’s are lobotomised so badly that they cannot think [Don't want to learn true history - it's too bothering for them] for themselves – they just run with their monied friends? Well I believe they are running out of time and friends.

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  39. 125
    Blowing Whistles says:

    To all the naysayers – “what if” and there is plenty of “new evidence” pointing to it – the figures have been manipulated, massaged, propagandised and ramped up beyond belief?

    Let’s have [Highly impossible because of the cult of no you can't question it]an adult conversation about it – let’s not have knee-jerk reactionists – doing all the smearing for those behind them who do not really want to discuss it openly and transparently eh? [e.g. Climate Change Huh!]

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    Gloone says:

    Wow, Guido seems to think “the guilty Jews are guilty and the innocent ones are innocent” is some kind of inflammatory, controversial remark.

    Please regain your ability to think properly Guido, your bizarre, dogmatic behaviour is kind of embarrassing to watch.

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    Free speech not "fear speech" says:

    Well firstly this is a free speech issue. Are we saying this representative of the people isn’t allowed to express his opinions ? I don’t accept PC restrictions on free speech.

    Secondly as a friend of Israel (at least the majority that hasn’t yet been hijacked by freeloading religious nutcases), I say there are issues to be addressed over Israeli treatment of Arabs. In many cases Israeli treatment of them would be considered a war crime if it had occurred to Bosnians and the aggressor was a Serb. That is just a statement of fact.

    So overall, I would say, let him speak out freely, but let him be subjected to tough questioning – e.g. how the human rights record of Hamas gay-killers is far worse than anything than Israel has done.

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    Free speech not "fear speech" says:

    Part of the problem here is the “Holocaust Memorial Day” – a wholly artificial construct foisted on British people a few years ago.

    The total number of UK citizens who died in the Holocaust was something like 300 if I recall correctly. Horrible but no more horrible than (roughly) the number who died in 9-11 and – as far as I know – we don’t have an official 9-11 remembrance day.

    Of course anyone of any sensibility recognises the appalling – immeasurable – tragedy of the Holocaust, perpetrated by the Nazi ideological movement (rather than the German people – since it included plenty of non-Germans who signed up to the Nazi plan).

    But it was not our tragedy. To pretend it was is dishonest.

    If we are to remember the Jews of mainland Europe, are we to remember the Armenians, the Darfurians, the people of Namibia exterminated by the Germans, the Aborigines of Australia, the Greeks massacred by Turks, the Native Americans of the USA, the natives of South America, the Tibetan people, the Christians of the Middle East…?

    It was an extremely bad move to create this Holocaust Memorial Day which – unlike Remembrance Day – has little emotional pull for people in this country. And the whole enterprise has quickly become mired in dirty politics as we see with this guy’s ill-advised remarks.

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    Angry bulldog says:

    Just imagine replacing the word “Jews” with “black people”. He would have been arrested and charged. Huge double standards over definitions of racism and religious hatred

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      Nemesis says:

      You are correct but then this country is strangled by these PC morons. Actually if he said Israelis instead of Jews he would have been bang on correct.

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    LL says:

    “In many cases Israeli treatment of them would be considered a war crime if it had occurred to Bosnians and the aggressor was a Serb. That is just a statement of fact.”

    No it is not a statement of fact. It is outrageously false.

    It is Israel that started the pinpoint assassination techniques of terrorists now followed by all West that save thousand lives.
    It was Israel that started using low explosive warheads in missiles to hit a car in middle of a street and only the car occupants die.
    It was Israel that improved sights to more accurately identify occupants and improved precision.

    A statement of fact is that if Israel followed the Laws of War and Geneva Convention many more Palestinians would have died.
    For it to happen was enough that to every artillery/rocket fire from Gaza, Israel would have responded with counter battery fire like it happens in every war.
    Or if it was standing still in war technology – like Syrian Army – but we know that a dead Palestinian only matters if Israel can be related to it.

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    Esther says:

    Great Brittain is industrialized, not civilized; it’s one of the most disgusting, antisemitic countries of Europe. Socoalists slaughtered 175 million people and go on and on and their best friends are muslims, who killed over 270 million in history.

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    Socialism = starvation says:

    And Cameron said that UKIP members were fruitcakes and nutters, yet he’s in coalition with this lot.

    BTW, the House of Lords still has a rifle range in the basement. Do they fear Guido still?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9827316/Mystery-over-cost-of-House-of-Lords-rifle-range.html

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  48. 167
    Socialism = starvation says:

    There are also Druze and some Circassians in the Israeli Army and Border Police, it might not be just “Jews” doing what he complains of. Is he inciting hatred of Jews by his comments?

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  49. 168
    Nemesis says:

    Well said that man.

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  50. 170
    Anonymous says:

    “To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize” Voltaire.

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