January 25th, 2013

David Ward MP Pictured With Swastika on His Own Website

The BBC is now running the story that David Ward has been condemned by the LibDems for his Holocaust comments. He has now deleted them from his website. A spokesperson for the party tells Guido that the matter will be dealt with internally. This photo, published on Ward’s own website next to the party logo, will hardly help matters…


81 Comments

  1. 1
    Yorkshire Lass says:

    The reason he is saying this is because a large percent of his constituents are muslim. If the boundary changes are approved, he will have to fight his seat with Galloway; if not, then he will have a tough election still as respect have a lot of support on the east..

    • 10
      Plato says:

      So, the use of it in this context is entirely innocent and peaceful?

    • 15
      Anonymous says:

      And with a majority of about 200, nothing but a full loathing of Israel will see him re-elected

    • 16
      Anonymous says:

      Probably best he doesn’t go swimming in any pools anytime soon incase the Mossad swimming club are in town.

    • 28
      Symbol Watch says:

      Primarily H!ndu:

      http://www.religionfacts.com/buddhism/symbols/swastika.htm

      The clockwise symbol in H!nduism: Vishnu (sun god), anti-clockwise: Kali (magic)

      In terms of Brahma: Clockwise = creation of universe, Anti-Clockwise = destruction of universe.

      Usually 4 dots in the quadrants in H!ndu representation.

      In Buddhism, the symbol (clockwise) signifies auspiciouness and good fortune. Across Asia the use of the symbol in either orientation means nothing.

      The Symbol itself predates the Roman empire, but the modern meaning was a distortion which should be shaken.

    • 66
      Catty Comment (Ms) says:

      Lass, you already said this on the last thread.

  2. 2
    JabbaTheCat says:

    Swastika=National Socialism. Seems both boxes tick in that neighbourhood…

  3. 3
    Charles Flaccidwidger says:

    Not wanting to defend the guy but the Swastika was a symbol used by a number of cultures before the Nazis – see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika Given the people pictured above I suspect it is less than sinister.

    Naaaaahhhh, fuck it, it’s the Lib Dems!

    • 18
      Rob says:

      So, at a rally against Israel someone has a banner with a Swastika on it and you don’t see the connection?

    • 27
      SP4BS says:

      It looks like its a protest, something to do with “ethnic cleansing” by the looks of those words, and the flag seems to be Burma.

      Someone else in that photo has a banner saying “stop this holocaust in Burma”.

      So unless one is really upset by comparing Burma with Nazis, its a non starter.

      BOLLOCKS.

      • 56
        Plato says:

        Actually, not. It seems that Ward is comfortable making comparisons between modern states and Nazism. Therefore, his comments about Israel and the holocaust become more serious, not less.

        • 58
          SP4BS says:

          Even if that modern state was doing things like banning certain ethnic groups from owning land, travelling, and trying to stop them having children.

          How unfair to call them nazis.

  4. 4
    ianvisits says:

    I wonder if any other politicians have been caught posing in front of a swastika.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8035905.stm

  5. 5
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Lib Dems are fanatical anti semites – everyone knows that.

    • 21
      Sane person says:

      The BBC came to my school for a careers night. My Dad advised me against them because they were, in the 1950s and 60s, reputed to be mainly staffed by David followers and I wouldn’t get in. How things change…

  6. 6
    Jonah says:

    It’s a hindu swastika, idiot

  7. 7
    Anonymous says:

    David has a majority of about 200 votes. Anyone who expresses anything other complete contempt (as a bare minimum) for Israel is electorally sunk.

    • 30
      Voter says:

      So its OK for a politician to be a demagogue and simply say what they think the electorate want to hear is it?

      Rather than having some thoughts and opinions of his own.

      This is exactly why the vermin are fucking hated.

  8. 8
    Liberal Dose Of Reality says:

    Why are we so surprised by this, he is simply blowing a dog whistle to satisfy his mainly muslim constituents, i would suggest that we get used to this.

    • 67
      Catty Comment (Ms) says:

      You mean they actually speak and understand English? Or is he fluent in Arabic, Urdu, etc??

  9. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Is this a joke? The swastika is a religious symbol, used in hinduism and buddism. It was around for centuries before hitler hijacked it. Morons.

    • 13
      Plato says:

      The person with the poster intended that? I think it’s you who are making the jokes…

      • 20
        Anonymous says:

        Ironic the muslims use this symbol on their little sign because if Hitler and his boys were still around they would be going in the ovens as well.

        idiots

    • 19
      Plato says:

      “Ironic”? How about blatantly provocative and historically ignorant?

  10. 11
    soloman says:

    Guido, there was a time when you used to do proper journalism and now your just a front man for the tory PR machine

    • 22
      Rob says:

      “Proper journalism” = “declining to report on left-wing nutjobs”

      • 41
        soloman says:

        Proper journalism = exposing the tories for the frauds they are instead of trying to distract people with, sorry but is that a cockatoo behind you………………

  11. 12
    Owen Jones says:

    Circumcise the toe rag !!!

    • 32
      Interesting fact says:

      Oprah Winfry uses face cream made out of foreskins.

      • 60
        Tay King-dePisse says:

        See other comment at 12:57 pm below. That’s another mouthy cow of the darker complexion who should be taken about as seriously as Oprah Winfrey should be taken, about anything. I mean, a HUMAN byproduct being used for cosmetics? Who collects them– the doctors who perform the operations, and charge the parents for doing so, and then turn around and sell the things? Sounds like a racket to me. Ask Oprah what she thinks about genital mutilation of females in (*ahem*) “certain communities”– see what she tells you. La Winfrey–yet another illustration that some people are willing to believe any old shite just because some bint on the telly tells them to. Saves them the headache of thinking.

  12. 14
    Kun Tea Bollox says:

    He’ll do or say anything to keep his fat snout in the Westminster trough.
    Let’s face it, he only has to make the odd flying visit to Bradistan, get photographed, post on his website to keep his seat.

  13. 23
    Owen Jones says:

    The Gas Chamber is too good for this scumbag.

    • 42
      National Socialism is Socialism says:

      Am surprised that young Jones sees a problem with this. Oh well, hypocrisy and deceit never change their true colors, eh lad ?

    • 63
      Don't mention the war. says:

      Spoken like a true modern liberal.

  14. 25
    Rob says:

    There does seem to be a disproportionately high number of such people in the Liberal Democrats.

  15. 31
    David B says:

    If he or the Lib Dem’s want to figure out how bad this is, just imagine a BNP spokesman saying this and having that flag on their website.

  16. 33
    My Government !! says:

    Did not know she was PM

    • 36
      Our ex-government says:

      No – It was under Fatbot’s government that the boxes started to pile up, and did so for about 7 years without reproach.

      • 69
        Catty Comment (Ms) says:

        Were they not also responsible for decimating the service? That probably helped, I suppose….

  17. 34
    Symbol Watch says:

    Can have a pop at him over this use of the symbol.

    It was oriented at 45 degrees, as it was by the NSRD.

    For the tradition meaning relating to creation and enlightenment and sun gods, the symbol should be kept level. Also best not to color it black, or put it anywhere near a red background – that signifies socialism.

    • 37
      Plato says:

      Or next to the words (it seems) “Ethnic Cleansing”.

      A swastika and the slogan “Ethnic Cleansing” and the intent is peaceful and harmless?

      • 45
        SP4BS says:

        Are you suggesting its a demonstration that is pro-ethnic cleansing?

        Or is it harmful to complain about governments or compare them to nazis?

        • 52
          Plato says:

          The meaning isn’t clear. Either way, the intent is highly provocative and possibly not best for an M.P. to be associated with.

          And, in fact, the association in the photo makes his comments about Israel and the holocaust appear worse.

          • SP4BS says:

            Have you found the original context that this picture was shown in?
            The original page?

            It is probably only highly provocative to the Burmese authorities. Are you a supporter of them?

      • 59
        Symbol Watch says:

        Have not seen the un-cropped photo.

        The symbol is most important: This does not require any understanding of language to get a message across.

        Am assuming this was some sort of peace protest against ethnic cleansing ?

        If the symbol had been oriented correctly, colored anything but black there would be no ambiguity in this context.

        Using the symbol without ambiguity to protest against ethnic cleansing is a valid use, if there is any relevance at all with respect the beliefs of the people who are protesting. Perhaps connected to Burma ? If so, the Buddhist use is valid, but the symbol should not be oriented at 45 degrees and it may have been wiser to use the left facing version.

        If the intent was to associate the protest event with events which occurred in Europe, then whoever created the placard should have a serious rethink as the protesters have just destroyed their case.

  18. 35
    Retaliation says:

    I’m starting a Hygiene Patrol in areas of London where there are Muslims. Our gang will go round harassing muslims by forcing deodorants and bottles of mouthwash onto them.

  19. 40
  20. 53
    Robbo says:

    This David Ward is a toilet

  21. 55
    Anonymous says:

    If yae can drink and puff then you still have enough.

    • 68
      Catty Comment (Ms) says:

      You have to get yourself in that condition to be able to face half-cooked haggis and watch/listen to endless Jimmy Shand repeats

  22. 61
    Jimmy says:

    David, David, David,

    I know you’re in coalition now and you want to fit in, but there’s more to being a rightie than gratuitous racism you know. You’ll get the hang of it in the end I’m sure.

    • 64
      Tommy Talmud. says:

      Any criticism of Israel is racism. Be silent and know your place.

      Israel can do no wrong! (And even if it does it’s racist to mention it) Yes to land grabs! Yes to phosphor bombing! Yay for Israel go boys go.

  23. 71
    goggzilla says:

    Out of context surely? Ward is next to a flag of Rasta colours, and the hakenkreutz is t emphasis racism. Lets ask Louise Mensch to be safe.

  24. 72
    BBC Disinfotainment Commissioning Team says:

    And confronting Israel, the world’s most celebrated fascist state can continue in its business and ‘liberals’ applaud its leaders’ humanitarian objectives, wonderful diversity and…oh, wait..

  25. 77
    John says:

    This looks like a protest flag against the alleged ethnic cleansing in Burma by the Buddhists against the Muslims in Rakhine. Looks like the Burma flag.

    In this context, the symbol is a criticism of the Buddhists in Burma: drawing attention to the similarity of the Buddhist regime to the Nazis, through the similarity of their symbols.

    I would expect David Ward to attend as it may be of some importance to his Muslim constituents.

  26. 79
    James Delingpole says:

    Load of crap, even by your standards Paul

  27. 80
    Benjamin Thomas says:

    This is a protest about killings in Burma – The swastika is present in it’s eastern context and meaning (as it can be seen all over south east asia) and has nothing to do with nazism.

    The slightest bit of research would have told you this. Presenting it in such a manner as you have here is misleading, negligent, cheap and sensationalist, and places this blog on a par with the shabbiest of tabloids. My respect for this blog has decreased markedly.

    Shame.

  28. 81
    Anonymous says:

    “MP Pictured With Swastika on His Own Website”. He should joint this site – plenty of like-mined people here.


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