Another Pollster has UKIP in Third, and Not Just for the Euros
The old guard laughed when newbie pollsters Survation started showing an ascendancy pattern for the UKIP vote last year, yet today a third pollster has UKIP at around 20% for the Euro elections and now they are giving Nick Clegg a kicking on the home front too. Ipsos Mori report that the party are beating the LibDems into fourth place on general election voting intentions. There is hardly cause for celebration for Ed Miliband either - 75% of Tories are satisfied with Cameron but just 53% of Labour supporters are happy with their leader. Bad news all round for the pro-EU parties.
Translated into seats = A massive Labour majority, Lib Dems with substantial losses and UKIP with no seats. Nasty.
Its a one party LIBLABCON system. You’re dealing with a political elite. It doesn’t matter whether its LAB or CON because its the same people with different rosettes. UKIP are different because they’re presently outside the tent.
Soon they will be in the tent and Cameron Conservatives and LD will be out.
Its not a fucking tent. When will polticos start speaking English?
Its a Portaloo
We prefer the term “cottaging” – so much more homely.
for one moment I thought the last 2 posts had put Portillo and cottaging together.
UKIP are the pro smoking party. They have a policy that it is OK to go round poisoning people. Yet still they get support. Mad.
They’ll be claiming a ‘second tent’ allowance for it no doubt, while renting out their main tent to a colleague.
The LibLabCons have nothing but bad intent.
Ukip are different because of Farrago and I won’t hear a word against him. Every time he appears he serves as a monument to Gerry Anderson; less macho than Lady Penelope and more wooden than Parker and with all the flying skills of Virgil. What a puppet!
Frightened are we?
why do you assume I support any party. No mind of your own? UKIP troll? I judge on what I see.
Blunderbird, then you must see a bunch of lying thieving troughing Camorons and liblab snouts in the EU trough…
If there is any judging to be done they all deserve to be in HMP for treason
co artist
the only MPS in jail are Labour ones…or too sick to face trial
you might want to reflect on that
twat
That’s just not on. The bloody Beeboids & Skygrovellers and their favourite politicos are up for a televised debate for the three MAIN parties. In there feeble minds that’ll be the Communists, Dave’s spineless fools and the non existent (after 2015) Limp/Dumbs…sans the Huhnetic who’ll be being buggered in the showers.
Will Farage get an invite; answers on a postcard.
I wrote to the Biased BBC to ask them when UKIP would be interviewed, given a regular slot at Question Time etc. as their public support is around double what the LimpDims can muster.
Silly me, obviously the QT seats are based on seats in parliament, so UKIP do not rate a mention, and that situation is not expected to change….
Bet that went down well….
Dear Biased BC,
Give my lot some more air time, you bastards.
May the seed of your loin be fruitful in the belly of your woman.
Neil lojolondon.
So how come Owen Jones is on there almost every other week?
Bad penny syndrome (wasn’t that recorded by Humph about 40 years ago?)
“UKIP are different because they’re presently outside the tent.”
And usually pissing in a pissed fashion on each other rather than into the tent!
75% of Conservatives might be satisfied as the rest has gone to UKIP, looks like the other 25% will soon go to UKIP as well. Meaning support for the cameron constitutive party will fall to 20%
AS LD Clegg might get 98% LD satisfaction rate soon as rest would have left the party. After next general election a car will be more than enough to transport all the LD MPs.
If 75% of Conservatives are satified with that wanker there really is no hope for the party.
No no no! They won’t use a car – they’ll make do with 2 tandems.
I bet you didn’t vote yes on the referendum on PR, though, did you?
This is Cameron Conservative PR. If you want UKIP vote for UKIP.
Cameron Conservatives will never implement Real Conservative policies, so it doesn’t matter whether its Ed or Cameron.
Vote UKIP for UKIP MPs. Even to get a real conservative leader vote UKIP.
‘Cameron Conservative’ – the greatest oxymoron of our time.
I get it now. UKIP are morons. They really are – like a 6th form debating society. They are going to get blow apart in a referendum debate. The argument that we don’t need the single market is bollox or and so is the assumption that our trade deficit with the EU is some sort of guarantee against anti-British politics. The single market is huge and due to rebound 2nd half of this year. The commonwealth is growing but not a like for like replacement (yet!) and securing bilateral treaties takes a long time. Joining NAFTA is attractive but we need to make that a real alternative that is good to go rather than just talking about it.
We resent being compared to UKIP.
What a load of bull – not one truth in that entire paragraph rant above -
PS If you believe the single market is due for a rebound 2nd half of this year, then I guess you will have put your pension and all investments into Euro’s. (I wish!! ha ha ha ha ha)
This is what happens when you push people too far – of course will not be mentioned in the UK’s MSM Europhile press.
It is truely awful it has come to this but the poor Greeks are being screwed into the ground by the EU troika. Desperate times.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/gunmen-spray-the-offices-of-greeces-governing-party-20130115-2crgd.html
Greece really are the finger in the EU dyke – for their sake and all our sakes I pray that they get the courage to leave.
Oh yeah, that narrative. The Germans have to hand over a blank cheque else they’re a bunch of nazis.
It is a shocking condemnation of our electoral system that UKIP is expected to get so many votes (and had four times as many as the Greens last time, for example, and more than SNP and PC) but it achieved no MPs at Westminster. The immediate, mechanical, reason is clear – UKIP’s voters are fairly evenly spread whereas LibDems and Greens live in covens where they can achieve the highest number in a first past the post election.
We must also reflect that most of today’s daft and expensive “green” (aka anti-consumer, anti-capitalist) policies were brought about by the Greens when they had no MPs. They just persuaded a gullible leadership in both Lab and Con to adopt disfunctional policies.
How much more influence UKIP can have with sensible policies when it can achieve so many votes that Conservative and Labour MPs have to wonder if theirs might be the seat that gets lost to – well, anyone. Combined with a likely collapse in the Libdem vote the electoral system is in a volatile and unstable condition; almost anything could happen.
.. and, as the saying goes, probably will.
BBC put fingers in ears, La La La, nothing to see or hear here, lets move along.
Confuscius, he say: “Never look a gift burger in the mouth”.
Neigh, neigh, neigh (thrice neigh).
Ain’t ‘Others’ in third place? Guido needs to learn how to read pie charts.
Your comprehension skills merit an Amstrad award.
As bad as the Tories are, Ed will never be PM so, just about, we may well avoid a Labour win in 2015.
I would like to see UKIP get a few UK MP’s. Even though the EU makes the rules at the moment, most people won’t wake up and smell the coffee until UKIP have some people in Westminister making some noise.
Complaining in the expenses office about the low level of claims allowed compared with Strasbourg does not count as ‘making noise’.
If you do what you’ve always done you’ll get what you’ve always got.
Vote for anything other than UKIP you will get a posh boy who thinks the EU is ace.
I hope Ikea isn’t the next firm to go bust – as the “Ikea Collapses” jokes will be unbearable.
Not as unbearable as the shit that comes from your mouth.
oh well.
put everything into play. at the end of the day and the beginning there is always the queen…..and,,,,the untarnished price will.i.am. all hail theonly certainty.
… so long as he keeps his chopper away from cranes..
I know I feel completely different about voting than I did at the end of the radical / fanatical / extremist Blair / Brown Regime.
I will never vote tactically again to keep Labour out – I will vote for what I believe in.
UKIP for me.
It does make me laugh at all the UKIP mushrooms who think that the king and queen of political sleaze and corruption, Neil and Christine Hamilton, make a vote catching public face for EUKIP at the next elections…
Jabba,you so love the alternatives ???????
UKIP are an ends to means, this is what you need to keep in mind. With the FPTP electoral system they will never win any worthwhile number of seats. That is not the point they will be the firebreak that pushes the Conservatives back to being Conservatives and not some version of New Labour.
So it looks like 43% of voters are idiots, I bet they’re the type that drive round with their fog lights on all the time. To think men fought and died to give these twats the vote.
Bet they’re the same ones with no lights on in the fog.
How on earth does a rotten party like Labour poll at 43%? Are the people of this country terminally stupid?
How did they win the High Street Ward in Walthamstow with a turnout of 125% at the last local election?
Postal votes count as treble.
Leave that out mate, your being bloody racist!
Move along now plebs, nothing to see here…
Yes.
That’s why we need to stick close to Fraunurse Merkel in case of something worse.
I don’t know much about films, but Blockbuster are certainly pushing one new release.
Posters for “Administration” are all over their windows.
I read that as Owen Jones the Cheek Chapper.
100% Pure Irish Beef.
May contain horsemeat from more than one EU country.
Would you prefer prime horse steak, or pig nipple + ar*ehole?
63% Beef, 27% Horse. What was the other 10% they didn’t dare tell us about?
Badger.
9% means a Labour majority and zero ukip MPs.
Just out of interest, what would UKIP have to poll in order to get at least one seat?
From what I can tell the problem for ukip is that they don’t have much support outside Tory heartlands. They need support in marginal seats to break through like the Greens did in Brighton. Otherwise, all things being equal, they probably wouldn’t get a seat before reaching 25%. Ukip have already had the low hanging fruit so difficult to see how they’d get to 25%. If they do it will be in an HoC dominated by a labour party profiting from the division on the right.
It wont take UKIP that long my dear fellow – pls see rise of Syriza in Greece, 2009 polled 4.5%, 2012 polled 27%… to be second largest party, if they repeated election now they would win – why do you think the LIBLABCON are running scared…..
time to change
time to march on parliament
UKIP most likely to break through in four way marginals such as in the SW of England, esp from incumbent Lib Dem seats.
take a look at total of the green votes and then the number of green votes per green mp
Guardian/ICM poll had UKIIP on 12%; so is that 4 pollsters saying 3rd position?
It defies belief that 43% of the voting public are so stupid as to support the malevolent horrors of Labour – except when that 47% that Romney mentioned is considered.
Time for a return to votes only for those who own property, rent privately without state benefit support, business owners and excluding all those of working age not working except of independent means.
Let’s face it,
Totally.
Easy SC. Things could get worse.
In Holland they have ended up with Blue, Red and Purple being forced to form a government. If Blue and yellow now are bad…….
Things could get worse?
No: Things can only get worse…
really? prince will.i.am ok. all realists ok.
Maybe, but 4 million Romanians and Bulgarians will generate massive growth and be great for this country so do not worry !!!!
Once the 4m arrive and truely 4uck up Britain and the last of the jobs that Labour voters had working in McDonalds or the shopping precinct on minimum wage – then….. the Labour voters will start voting UKIP.
But it will take the Labour voters to lose the last of their jobs before they wake up. But this is well on the way, what with (Blockbuster/Jessops/Honda/Comet) and with 4m new arrivals all working cash in hand or for companies for cheaper than labour voters, then you will see traditional Labour votong Brits losing all their jobs as there is a race to bottom of wages fed by the influx of unskilled labour (ironic…). Then see if they get a job in any warehouse in the country – No chance..
Then finally their cash will be reduced, so it will be less spent on beer, KFC, sky subscription, Spanish hols and IPhone App downloads and of course fags – then and only then when it actually starts to hurt in their Sports Direct “Umbro” tracksuit pocket – then Labour voters will start flocking to UKIP.
So give it a little bit of time, maybe 18 months.
The brain-dead can never awake. Their voting function is passing to their replacements and to the ballot riggers, so they might as well continue to rest in peace.
We don’t talk about our family money, and where it came from.
Oh please let it be selling horsemeat
Nor do I for reasons of ahem privacy
How can one manage on a miserly 100k a year, without child allowance?
Sell us your child
Ha ha ha! Oxfordistan!
What goes around, comes around. To think how it’s residents used to look down their noses at us!
Ha ha ha!
At least its residents aren’t ignorant of the English language.
Nothing going on in Oxford – time for you plebs to move along
Lots of dodgy muzzycash funding various high powered ‘ej*wcashunal’ establishments round that way. Just ‘cheque’ out the local phone book (if you can find one).
I’m not bitter and twisted, why would anyone possibly think that?
Last year EU pumped in EUR 120bn to get the exchange rate up a bit, and also to stimulate the EZ economy.
Now – latest indications are suggesting a further 0.5% contraction across the EZ this year:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/forex/euro-exchange-rate-not-major-concern-ecbs-nowotny/articleshow/18047810.cms
The real question is, will the insane devotion to political union be slain by the reality of economics. It would appear that money is being hedged on the side of politic at present.
So what? As long as my pensions and benefits remain as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar, why should I care?
But Jacques Delors said it would work…
Wasn’t he the Merde Alors, chef de Paris etc
When I start my own party ,we will turn Britain into a European North Korea.
We don’t doubt it, nor that you’ll be among the first put up against a wall.
http://www.eufreshstart.org/
Voting Labour means staying in the EU.
Voting Labour means immigration from the EU will be allowed to increase.
Why do people assume Labour voters will not switch to UKIP.
Pretending UKIP are far right extremists doesn’t work any more.
The policies are mostly just plain common sense.
“Why do people assume Labour voters will not switch to UKIP?”
Ukip’s top tax rate of 31% might have something to do with it. What do you think?
http://order-order.com/2013/01/16/another-pollster-has-ukip-in-third-and-not-just-for-euros/?replytocom=1558832#respond
I doubt the man who has just lost his job at the warehouse really cares what tax others are paying. He is probably more interested in what tax the EU immigrant who took his job is paying.
So the unemployed are going to vote for ukip in their droves. I have to admire the single minded unstoppable confidence of the ‘kippers. Today 9%, tomorrow the world hey?
This one will. UKIP the only party with sound economic policies.
You can always do as anything upto 1 million Brits have done and go and live in Spain.
I wonder what the Spaniards think of us. Still, we almost all speak the language fluently – I don’t think.
Yes, but about 999,502 of them have returned as their flats were repossessed when the euro went tits up.
The Lemon Party is struggling to repeat its second place finish in the last Eurovisions but seems poised to save a record number of deposits in 2015.
Remember righties, tomorrow belongs to you.
I am not sure what we will do when the Romanians and Bulgarians turn up.
More of my social circle have started the emigration process to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
If I had children I would be off to Canada or New Zealand too.
Are you aware that there are probably as many nationalities living in Sydney or Toronto as there are in Londistan. Both countries are having as much of problem with their visible minorities as we are.
“I am not sure what we will do when the Romanians and Bulgarians turn up.”
I’d stick with a flat back four.
If they all move into your area Jim, you might be able to get your flat back anyway!
The reason: half the country hate the Tories and distrust Labour and view the Lib Dems as irrelevant, while the other half of the country hate Labour, distrust the Tories and view the Lib Dems as irrelevant.
Life llong labour supporter. Now ukip supporter.
Good man – I’m sure yours was the finger in the dyke
Not easy getting your finger into a dyke. Takes cunning, patience and not a small amount of skill.
Depends on your own gender Luc.
B&P on 10% then, doesn’t that make them third?
Am worried cos I think me money will stop if we leave that EU thing and our Julie will have to find summit for us all. Us family stick together.
Stick with Dave luvvie and you will get your just deserts.
See what Dave says on Friday.
Well done UKIP – the only vehicle for change
Hear Hear
The Cameron speech on Friday will be a great anti-climax. How predictable!
a vote on a renegotiation, only Dave could come up with that bollox.
What – 75% of Conservative voters happy with Cameron? I simply don’t believe it. This figure clearly brings into question the poll’s credibility and I, for one, therefore have no confidence whatever in the percentages quoted for each of the parties.
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