January 16th, 2013

Another Pollster has UKIP in Third, and Not Just for the Euros

The old guard laughed when newbie pollsters Survation started showing an ascendancy pattern for the UKIP vote last year, yet today a  third pollster has UKIP at around 20% for the Euro elections and now they are giving Nick Clegg a kicking on the home front too. Ipsos Mori report that the party are beating the LibDems into fourth place on general election voting intentions. There is hardly cause for celebration for Ed Miliband either – 75% of Tories are satisfied with Cameron but just 53% of Labour supporters are happy with their leader. Bad news all round for the pro-EU parties. 

Via Standard/Ipsos Mori.

121 Comments

  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    Translated into seats = A massive Labour majority, Lib Dems with substantial losses and UKIP with no seats. Nasty.

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    • 5
      Terry Dactyl says:

      Its a one party LIBLABCON system. You’re dealing with a political elite. It doesn’t matter whether its LAB or CON because its the same people with different rosettes. UKIP are different because they’re presently outside the tent.

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      • 10
        Anonymous says:

        Soon they will be in the tent and Cameron Conservatives and LD will be out.

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      • 24
        blunderbirds are go says:

        Ukip are different because of Farrago and I won’t hear a word against him. Every time he appears he serves as a monument to Gerry Anderson; less macho than Lady Penelope and more wooden than Parker and with all the flying skills of Virgil. What a puppet!

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        • 34
          Anonymous says:

          Frightened are we?

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          • blunderbirds are go says:

            why do you assume I support any party. No mind of your own? UKIP troll? I judge on what I see.

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          • Con artists says:

            Blunderbird, then you must see a bunch of lying thieving troughing Camorons and liblab snouts in the EU trough…

            If there is any judging to be done they all deserve to be in HMP for treason

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          • Troll spotter says:

            co artist

            the only MPS in jail are Labour ones…or too sick to face trial
            you might want to reflect on that

            twat

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      • 40
        AngryEnglishJon says:

        That’s just not on. The bloody Beeboids & Skygrovellers and their favourite politicos are up for a televised debate for the three MAIN parties. In there feeble minds that’ll be the Communists, Dave’s spineless fools and the non existent (after 2015) Limp/Dumbs…sans the Huhnetic who’ll be being buggered in the showers.
        Will Farage get an invite; answers on a postcard.

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        • 49
          lojolondon says:

          I wrote to the Biased BBC to ask them when UKIP would be interviewed, given a regular slot at Question Time etc. as their public support is around double what the LimpDims can muster.

          Silly me, obviously the QT seats are based on seats in parliament, so UKIP do not rate a mention, and that situation is not expected to change….

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          • A Young Ones fan says:

            Bet that went down well….

            Dear Biased BC,

            Give my lot some more air time, you bastards.

            May the seed of your loin be fruitful in the belly of your woman.

            Neil lojolondon.

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          • Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

            So how come Owen Jones is on there almost every other week?

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          • Matilda says:

            Bad penny syndrome (wasn’t that recorded by Humph about 40 years ago?)

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      • 77
        Anonymous says:

        “UKIP are different because they’re presently outside the tent.”

        And usually pissing in a pissed fashion on each other rather than into the tent!

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    • 9
      Anonymous says:

      75% of Conservatives might be satisfied as the rest has gone to UKIP, looks like the other 25% will soon go to UKIP as well. Meaning support for the cameron constitutive party will fall to 20%

      AS LD Clegg might get 98% LD satisfaction rate soon as rest would have left the party. After next general election a car will be more than enough to transport all the LD MPs.

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    • 11
      Anonymous says:

      I bet you didn’t vote yes on the referendum on PR, though, did you?

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    • 19
      Anonymous says:

      This is Cameron Conservative PR. If you want UKIP vote for UKIP.

      Cameron Conservatives will never implement Real Conservative policies, so it doesn’t matter whether its Ed or Cameron.

      Vote UKIP for UKIP MPs. Even to get a real conservative leader vote UKIP.

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    • 26
      Worried EU Skeptic says:

      I get it now. UKIP are morons. They really are – like a 6th form debating society. They are going to get blow apart in a referendum debate. The argument that we don’t need the single market is bollox or and so is the assumption that our trade deficit with the EU is some sort of guarantee against anti-British politics. The single market is huge and due to rebound 2nd half of this year. The commonwealth is growing but not a like for like replacement (yet!) and securing bilateral treaties takes a long time. Joining NAFTA is attractive but we need to make that a real alternative that is good to go rather than just talking about it.

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      • 46
        morons everywhere says:

        We resent being compared to UKIP.

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      • 50
        lojolondon says:

        What a load of bull – not one truth in that entire paragraph rant above –

        PS If you believe the single market is due for a rebound 2nd half of this year, then I guess you will have put your pension and all investments into Euro’s. (I wish!! ha ha ha ha ha)

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    • 87
      Con Artists says:

      This is what happens when you push people too far – of course will not be mentioned in the UK’s MSM Europhile press.

      It is truely awful it has come to this but the poor Greeks are being screwed into the ground by the EU troika. Desperate times.

      http://www.theage.com.au/world/gunmen-spray-the-offices-of-greeces-governing-party-20130115-2crgd.html

      Greece really are the finger in the EU dyke – for their sake and all our sakes I pray that they get the courage to leave.

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      • 90
        Anonymous says:

        Oh yeah, that narrative. The Germans have to hand over a blank cheque else they’re a bunch of nazis.

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    • 101
      ukiplocal says:

      It is a shocking condemnation of our electoral system that UKIP is expected to get so many votes (and had four times as many as the Greens last time, for example, and more than SNP and PC) but it achieved no MPs at Westminster. The immediate, mechanical, reason is clear – UKIP’s voters are fairly evenly spread whereas LibDems and Greens live in covens where they can achieve the highest number in a first past the post election.

      We must also reflect that most of today’s daft and expensive “green” (aka anti-consumer, anti-capitalist) policies were brought about by the Greens when they had no MPs. They just persuaded a gullible leadership in both Lab and Con to adopt disfunctional policies.

      How much more influence UKIP can have with sensible policies when it can achieve so many votes that Conservative and Labour MPs have to wonder if theirs might be the seat that gets lost to – well, anyone. Combined with a likely collapse in the Libdem vote the electoral system is in a volatile and unstable condition; almost anything could happen.

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  2. 2
    old SHEP says:

    BBC put fingers in ears, La La La, nothing to see or hear here, lets move along.

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  3. 3
    Raving Loon says:

    As bad as the Tories are, Ed will never be PM so, just about, we may well avoid a Labour win in 2015.

    I would like to see UKIP get a few UK MP’s. Even though the EU makes the rules at the moment, most people won’t wake up and smell the coffee until UKIP have some people in Westminister making some noise.

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    • 47
      U kip and I'll kip says:

      Complaining in the expenses office about the low level of claims allowed compared with Strasbourg does not count as ‘making noise’.

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  4. 4
    Kun Tea Bollox says:

    If you do what you’ve always done you’ll get what you’ve always got.

    Vote for anything other than UKIP you will get a posh boy who thinks the EU is ace.

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  5. 6
    Owen Jones says:

    I hope Ikea isn’t the next firm to go bust – as the “Ikea Collapses” jokes will be unbearable.

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  6. 7
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    I know I feel completely different about voting than I did at the end of the radical / fanatical / extremist Blair / Brown Regime.

    I will never vote tactically again to keep Labour out – I will vote for what I believe in.

    UKIP for me.

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    • 16
      JabbaTheCat says:

      It does make me laugh at all the UKIP mushrooms who think that the king and queen of political sleaze and corruption, Neil and Christine Hamilton, make a vote catching public face for EUKIP at the next elections…

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      • 70
        Marion the Cat says:

        Jabba,you so love the alternatives ???????

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        • 118
          Who Want's Some! says:

          UKIP are an ends to means, this is what you need to keep in mind. With the FPTP electoral system they will never win any worthwhile number of seats. That is not the point they will be the firebreak that pushes the Conservatives back to being Conservatives and not some version of New Labour.

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  7. 8
    Albert Hall says:

    So it looks like 43% of voters are idiots, I bet they’re the type that drive round with their fog lights on all the time. To think men fought and died to give these twats the vote.

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  8. 12
    Bluto says:

    How on earth does a rotten party like Labour poll at 43%? Are the people of this country terminally stupid?

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  9. 13
    Owen Jones"The Cheekie Chappie" says:

    I don’t know much about films, but Blockbuster are certainly pushing one new release.

    Posters for “Administration” are all over their windows.

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  10. 14
    Well that's the end of the Irish meat industry says:

    100% Pure Irish Beef.

    May contain horsemeat from more than one EU country.

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  11. 15
    Number Crunching says:

    9% means a Labour majority and zero ukip MPs.

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    • 23
      Raving Loon says:

      Just out of interest, what would UKIP have to poll in order to get at least one seat?

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      • 52
        Number Crunching says:

        From what I can tell the problem for ukip is that they don’t have much support outside Tory heartlands. They need support in marginal seats to break through like the Greens did in Brighton. Otherwise, all things being equal, they probably wouldn’t get a seat before reaching 25%. Ukip have already had the low hanging fruit so difficult to see how they’d get to 25%. If they do it will be in an HoC dominated by a labour party profiting from the division on the right.

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        • 82
          Con Artists says:

          It wont take UKIP that long my dear fellow – pls see rise of Syriza in Greece, 2009 polled 4.5%, 2012 polled 27%… to be second largest party, if they repeated election now they would win – why do you think the LIBLABCON are running scared…..

          time to change
          time to march on parliament

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        • 104
          unemployed says:

          UKIP most likely to break through in four way marginals such as in the SW of England, esp from incumbent Lib Dem seats.

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      • 80
        IN / OUT Referendum says:

        take a look at total of the green votes and then the number of green votes per green mp

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  12. 21
    Anonymous says:

    Guardian/ICM poll had UKIIP on 12%; so is that 4 pollsters saying 3rd position?

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  13. 25
    Glyn H says:

    It defies belief that 43% of the voting public are so stupid as to support the malevolent horrors of Labour – except when that 47% that Romney mentioned is considered.

    Time for a return to votes only for those who own property, rent privately without state benefit support, business owners and excluding all those of working age not working except of independent means.

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  14. 27

    Let’s face it,

    
    B   i   F
    r   s   u
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    Totally.

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    • 32
      undutchable says:

      Easy SC. Things could get worse.
      In Holland they have ended up with Blue, Red and Purple being forced to form a government. If Blue and yellow now are bad…….

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    • 83
      Con Artists says:

      Maybe, but 4 million Romanians and Bulgarians will generate massive growth and be great for this country so do not worry !!!!

      Once the 4m arrive and truely 4uck up Britain and the last of the jobs that Labour voters had working in McDonalds or the shopping precinct on minimum wage – then….. the Labour voters will start voting UKIP.

      But it will take the Labour voters to lose the last of their jobs before they wake up. But this is well on the way, what with (Blockbuster/Jessops/Honda/Comet) and with 4m new arrivals all working cash in hand or for companies for cheaper than labour voters, then you will see traditional Labour votong Brits losing all their jobs as there is a race to bottom of wages fed by the influx of unskilled labour (ironic…). Then see if they get a job in any warehouse in the country – No chance..

      Then finally their cash will be reduced, so it will be less spent on beer, KFC, sky subscription, Spanish hols and IPhone App downloads and of course fags – then and only then when it actually starts to hurt in their Sports Direct “Umbro” tracksuit pocket – then Labour voters will start flocking to UKIP.

      So give it a little bit of time, maybe 18 months.

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      • 120
        Anonymous says:

        The brain-dead can never awake. Their voting function is passing to their replacements and to the ballot riggers, so they might as well continue to rest in peace.

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  15. 29
    The Mysterious Milibands says:

    We don’t talk about our family money, and where it came from.

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  16. 31
    BBC News Reader says:

    How can one manage on a miserly 100k a year, without child allowance?

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  17. 33
    Caroline I was once window dressing Flint says:

    I’m not bitter and twisted, why would anyone possibly think that?

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  18. 37
    EU Watch says:

    Last year EU pumped in EUR 120bn to get the exchange rate up a bit, and also to stimulate the EZ economy.

    Now – latest indications are suggesting a further 0.5% contraction across the EZ this year:

    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/forex/euro-exchange-rate-not-major-concern-ecbs-nowotny/articleshow/18047810.cms

    The real question is, will the insane devotion to political union be slain by the reality of economics. It would appear that money is being hedged on the side of politic at present.

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  19. 41
    Owen Jones says:

    When I start my own party ,we will turn Britain into a European North Korea.

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  21. 51
    Mental Elf says:

    Voting Labour means staying in the EU.
    Voting Labour means immigration from the EU will be allowed to increase.
    Why do people assume Labour voters will not switch to UKIP.
    Pretending UKIP are far right extremists doesn’t work any more.
    The policies are mostly just plain common sense.

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  22. 58
    Jimmy says:

    The Lemon Party is struggling to repeat its second place finish in the last Eurovisions but seems poised to save a record number of deposits in 2015.

    Remember righties, tomorrow belongs to you.

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  23. 59
    HenryV says:

    I am not sure what we will do when the Romanians and Bulgarians turn up.

    More of my social circle have started the emigration process to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

    If I had children I would be off to Canada or New Zealand too.

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    • 64
      Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

      Are you aware that there are probably as many nationalities living in Sydney or Toronto as there are in Londistan. Both countries are having as much of problem with their visible minorities as we are.

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    • 69
      Jimmy says:

      “I am not sure what we will do when the Romanians and Bulgarians turn up.”

      I’d stick with a flat back four.

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  24. 68
    Jess The Dog says:

    The reason: half the country hate the Tories and distrust Labour and view the Lib Dems as irrelevant, while the other half of the country hate Labour, distrust the Tories and view the Lib Dems as irrelevant.

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  25. 78
    dogs breath says:

    Life llong labour supporter. Now ukip supporter.

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  26. 92
    Had to ask says:

    B&P on 10% then, doesn’t that make them third?

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  27. 93
    Karen Kirkbride, sister of Julie Kirkbride says:

    Am worried cos I think me money will stop if we leave that EU thing and our Julie will have to find summit for us all. Us family stick together.

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  28. 96
    Anonymous says:

    Well done UKIP – the only vehicle for change

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  29. 119
    Dogsbody says:

    What – 75% of Conservative voters happy with Cameron? I simply don’t believe it. This figure clearly brings into question the poll’s credibility and I, for one, therefore have no confidence whatever in the percentages quoted for each of the parties.

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  30. 121
    John Smith says:

    Sign this petition to allow UKIP to take part in the 2015 TV election debates:

    http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/43153

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