January 15th, 2013

Exclusive: Prince Charles’ Spy in the Cabinet OfficeSecret Royal Employee Seconded to Whitehall

Despite the Cabinet Office trying to keep them secret, Whitehall papers show that the Queen and Prince Charles have effectively been given a veto on a range of bills. This morning’s Guardian has gone big on the story that ministers have been seeking royal approval for government legislation on the quiet. Guido can now reveal that the Household of the Prince of Wales currently has an employee on secondment in the Cabinet Office. Two Cabinet Office sources Guido has spoken to were not aware of the mysterious staffer’s presence, and pressed for an official response they have so far yet to think up an explanation. Maybe he’s there to censor FoI requests about Charles’ secret lefty lobbying letters sent to ministers…


51 Comments

  1. 1
    T20127076 says:

    why is this being hushed up

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    • 7
      Plato says:

      The monarch is always consulted on legislation and expresses opinions where appropriate. They don’t make it public.

      Rightly or wrongly, it’s the way our system works.

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      • 23
        Lord Stansted says:

        Quite right. We just have to live with the fact that now and agian we get a total twat a Prine of Wales.

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      • 41
        Dougie says:

        Quite so. There was a big splash a few months ago when a newspaper (I forget which) had an earth-shattering exclusive that the Queen & Duchy of Cornwall were being consulted about various items of potential legislation. Embarrassingly for the paper, it was simply displaying its ignorance since this has been normal practice that has been going on for centuries. It doesn’t give them a veto, simply the opportunity to be consulted on matters that affect the Crown/Duchy Estates.

        Obviously, The Guardian doesn’t read any of its competitors.

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        • 44
          Hands off Old Harlow! says:

          So the massively rich royal family are consulted by government and can lobby for their interests in secret, yes?

          Yet entire communities like ours in Old Harlow are totally ignored and jointly kicked in the teeth by developers and government when we fight the latest hugely damaging and out of control development here?

          Don’t you dare claim that we’re all in it together, Mr Cameron. It’s plain and obvious that’s it’s only the rich and powerful fat cats that you are in it together with…you nasty bully!

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          • Archie says:

            Where were the palace “advisers” when HM signed the various EU bills? If nowhere, what use is she? I seem to remember something in the Coronation about “defending her realm” or somesuch.

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    • 8
      Fishy says:

      Shhhhh

      BTW: Amusing call for transparency from the Guardian MG who have just hushed up one of their reporters whose blog post they disagreed with.

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    • 10
      CarryHole is a Dismal Hunt says:

      Biggest Rent-seeker in the entire land, and that’s saying something. Also a useless idiot with no idea how wealth is created he just leeches off it with the sheer audacity to lecture others.

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    • 15
      JabbaTheCat says:

      Bring on the republic…

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    • 28
      Quiet Bat Person says:

      Last time I looked, Acts of Parliament began with the words:

      “Be it enacted by the Queen’s most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—”

      It is, therefore, the monarch who enacts laws. Parliament ‘merely’ gives consent for her to do so.

      If Jug-ears ever becomes King, we are in for a real constitutional crisis though.

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  2. 2
    Prince Charles says:

    Shut up, Geedo, or I’ll arrange a tunnel trip for you.

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  3. 3
    Jimmy says:

    “Charles’ secret lefty”

    That’s quite the secret. The man’s about as lefty as you are.

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  4. 4
    Kebab Time says:

    Whats the difference between Unelected head of state vetoing bills and unelected Lords voting delaying boundary changes?

    (Apart from the Queen having more respect than politicians)

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  5. 5
    Bob says:

    Leve her be, She is head of tae still

    http://horsforthletdownbyleeds.blogspot.co.uk/

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  6. 11
    Moussa Koussa Mark 4 says:

    7 Down. Stuff Borisido Boriswkes likes to ignore

    1. Cops 17% pay cut…oh dear !!
    2. Neo Con religious Nut wins case. ( we are turning into Texas )
    3. HMV ( Mary Portas is still being paid )
    4. Tory – Ulster Looneysticks, still rioting.
    5. Childcare costs..now out of reach of most parents
    6. Disabled about to have the rug pulled from underneath them.
    7. Warsi , Hunt and Gideon media blackout continues

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    • 22
      The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

      So apart from parroting the usual tired left wing blarney, what exactly are You going to do about it M.K. Mk.IV ?

      How about You setting up a profit generating business that employs people so that they can have a sustainable job, earn a living wage, pay tax and not be a burden on the rest of us? Could you do that M.K. Mk. IV ?

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  7. 14
    Andrew Schrader says:

    This is a non-story being whipped up by Republic for their own ends. The Palace are absolutely clear that the Queen and the Prince of Wales are briefed on matters affecting the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall and, as a matter of traditional courtesy, their consent for the Bills concerned is requested. This consent is freely given, as a formality, unless they receive ministerial advice to the contrary. The only Bill from which consent has been witheld was the 1999 Military Actions Against Iraq (Parliamentary Approval) Bill and I don’t think it should come as any great mystery that Her Majesty received advice from Her then Prime Minister, Tony Blair, to veto the Bill. This was a Private Member’s Bill, put forward by Sir Tam Dalyell – one of Mr Blair’s most persistent backbench anti-war critics – and, if he hadn’t got the Queen to veto it, I’m quite confident Mr Blair would’ve found some other way to scupper it. I note with interest that, despite Mr Blair’s machinations, that when military action against Iraq was subsequently undertaken, Mr Blair was in the event bounced into seeking parliamentary approval (which was given) and it is now widely-regarded by constitutional scholars as having set a precedent whereby it would now be unthinkable for any Government in future to commence such military action without first seeking permission from Parliament.

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    • 18
      The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

      British Beekeepers Association: Membership – 22,500
      Eddie Stobart Lorry Spotting Club: Membership – 35,000
      The Campaign for Real Ale: Membership – 144,000

      Republic: Membership – 14,500

      So who exactly are Republic and why should this tiny unelected fringe group mean anything to the majority of people in the UK? If they want to change the way this country is run why don’t they get elected to Parliament and change things democratically instead of whingeing from the side lines? I think that even they must realise that the Queen has much greater popular support than they will ever have. As for slagging off the royals, well easy target and lazy rhetoric is a way of avoiding confronting the real problems that beset this country, none of which are caused by the Monarchy.

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      • 26
        Jimbo says:

        Couple of typos there, old bean.

        So who exactly are the Royals and why should this tiny unelected fringe group mean anything to the majority of people in the UK? If they want to change the way this country is run why don’t they get elected to Parliament and change things democratically instead of whingeing from the side lines? I think that even they must realise that Democracy has much greater popular support than they will ever have. As for slagging off the republicans, well easy target and lazy rhetoric is a way of avoiding confronting the real problems that beset this country, some of which are caused by the Monarchy.

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      • 37
        Casual Observer says:

        Think of it as the ‘traditional’ new left approach.

        They will take an underdog, or minority interest group, hype it up and use that quite literally as a thin wedge end to open up a wider issue, or just distract people from the real issues.

        Think of this as being like the whole LGBT farce.

        Easy to counter though – just ignore it.

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  8. 16
    Nick says:

    I’d prefer the Queen to run the country directly without the politicians.

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  9. 17
    Jay says:

    Or is nonce gate getting too close to home?

    Hi from Michael Murrin,

    Following the sending of my letters to the Queen, The Prime Minister, Lord Justice Mummery and Bernard Hogan-Howe, things are now stirring in the swamp! On December 24th a letter was typed up in No: 10, it reads:-

    Dear Mr Murrin,

    I am writing on behalf of the Prime Minister to thank you for your letter of 15th December. I am sorry to learn that you were unhappy with the reply you received from the Home Office.

    Your correspondence is currently under consideration,

    Your sincerely,

    It will be interesting to see what response I receive next. The main thrust of this campaign is to:-

    1. Secure the release of the documents related to The Paedophile Information Exchange which are held in government archives.

    2. To have established a Royal Commission into child care and child abuse in the UK.

    The above letter was received by me on Friday January 4th. Today, Saturday 5th January, I received another letter via Special Delivery. This is a solicitors letter and, in effect, I am being threatened with committal to prison. Forgive me but I cannot go into the detail of who is making this move but be assured it is a serious move and it may well be that I will be incarcerated in due course.

    Key to this campaign is support for the two petitions on the No 10 website. The number of signatures is moving up but nowhere near quick enough, they need 100,000 signatures a piece to bring the matters to debate on the floor of the House of Commons. If you can help promote them then please do so.

    Someone’s getting in a tizzy it would seem! Threatening people with imprisonment for asking questions and standing up for kids who’ve been abused.

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    • 33
      Anonymous says:

      get copies of everything you have to a trusted mate – just in case.

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    • 34
      optional says:

      Get copies of everything you have to a trusted mate – just in case.

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    • 38
      Casual Observer says:

      There is talk, there are some highly coincidental photo’s and publicly known associations, so there is naturally some speculation.

      However – always consider the triple cross.

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  10. 24
    A UK Citizen and Taxpayer in Mali says:

    Cameron is doing nothing for UK citizens stranded in this country .

    Where are the Press when you really need them ?

    How many UK citizens are there in Mali ?

    What UK interests are there to protect in Mali ?

    Where is William Hague ?

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  11. 27
    incestual flids inc says:

    well let’s not mention the fact all privy council members are administered a oath of allegiance to the monarch when they join said “club”. oh and all police officers upon reaching the rank of chief superintendent.

    god save our gracious queen log live our noble queen god save the queen

    what the fuck?

    how about a national anthem where we collectively call for god to save and long live everyone who abides in the united kingdom rather than just one parasitic inbred member of the rothschild clan.

    what a bunch of fucking rotters.

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    • 46
      The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

      I know, isn’t it terrible the way that Prince Philip came and evicted you and your pregnant wife and three children from your cottage and threw all your belongings out on to the snow covered road. Then there was the time that Prince Charles had those peasants shot because they didn’t tug their forelocks quickly enough. Or when the Queen had all the gruel and stale bread taken away from the orphanage so that she could entertain the Russian Ambassador.

      Yeah, yeah, yeah let’s insult someone who cannot answer back and trot out the same old crap about inbreeding, parasitism and scary dark forces involving banking families, and, possibly, lizards. Oh and by the way roll your eyes and lick your lips a lot when you video it for YouTube.

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      • 47
        incestual flids inc says:

        where shall we begin…

        prince andrew’s real father was lord porchester.

        prince edward’s real father was baron plunket.

        it is a open secret that prince andrew is gay.

        prince edward’s daughter louise is mentally handicapped.

        one of prince philip’s long term mistresses is the actress joanna lumley.

        three of prince philip’s sisters were members of the nazi party.

        all of prince philip’s brother-in-laws became high ranking members of the nazi party.

        lord mountbatten was a regular visitor to the kincora boys home.

        prince harry has been cautioned for possession of cocaine on two separate occasions.

        the duchess of cornwall is catholic.

        princess diana’s murder was bankrolled and orchestrated by propaganda due (p2 lodge).

        i could go on but you’ll probably just counter with some stupid guff about shape-shifting lizards… but if you want to try and refute the points i have outlined in a intelligent by all means go ahead.

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  12. 30
    Dr Evil says:

    Pity the Queen broke her coronation oath by not vetoing the single european bill as oit then was. The Bill of Rights says foreign princes et al will have no sovereignty over us too. About time all these rights were enforced.

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  13. 32
    Ah! Monika 2013 +1 says:

    HMV in Whitehall.

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  14. 42
    keredybretsa says:

    One thinks that Prinnie may well join the gruainad down under!

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  15. 43
    Anonymous says:

    BFD. Charles is a Member of the Privy Council. The Cabinet is an Executive Committee of the Privy Council. Charles is a Member of the House of Lords.

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  16. 49
    Jim Hacker the blagger says:

    “Yeahhhss, I have my spies, you know, abouts”

    “Time for polo – Wales? ah yes my holiday home. You know, they are quite jolly down there, scrabbling about, don’t you know”

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