January 9th, 2013

UKIP Sack Youth Chairman Over Gay Marriage Row

Negative briefings, leaked emails and mass resignations – last night the joys of student politics found their way right to the top of the UKIP hierarchy. As Guido revealed yesterday evening:

olly2Last week Neville incensed party bosses after announcing his support for gay marriage during an interview on The World at One. UKIP is briefing that gay marriage is not the reason the NEC has taken the decision to remove Neville, but extensive emails seen by Guido show that the interview was seen by party chairman Stephen Crowther as “absolutely unacceptable”. The party insists the decision was taken after a series of policy disagreements in which Neville was increasingly off-message. You are not a mature political party until your youth wing goes loco…


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  1. 1
    Philip Schofield says:

    Who’s the pretty boy?
    http://postimage.org/gallery/7pkkeq9g/

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  2. 2
    Kebab Time says:

    UKIP have had thier Ratners moment and been exposed of being fake libertarians, tho the banning of the burka policy should have set alarm bells ringing…

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    • 3
      CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

      Haha. Only pure* libertarians allowed eh?

      *As defined by KT.

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      • 52
        Misternedderry says:

        Indeed, UKIP are more libertarian as the official policy is to NOT oppose homosexual marriage, but leave it for the churches themselves to decide their own doctrine and ALLOW people the liberty to hold opposing views.

        UKIP are more libertarian because unlike the increasingly intolerant and bigoted tories, labour and liberals, UKIP support and welcome those opinions of the followers of religion and treat those with tolerance and respect too. Whereas the militant homosexual lobby would like to see followers of religion to be criminalised.

        UKIP also feel that homosexual marriage is such a tiny fringe issue compared to what is actually wrong in this country, that it is pointless and wrong to waste any time on it, when there are far more important matters to attend to, like getting control of our laws back, stopping uncontrolled avalanche of immigration, ending the alarmism over climate change and the disastrous and potentially catastrophic policies which are coming from that needless scare, getting the economy working and initiating a truly fair for all flat rate of tax system.

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        • 57
          Libertarian says:

          And UKIP state that they wish to shrink government.

          People often confuse liberalism with libertarianism, a conflation promulgated by many, and which is wholly false.

          Careful reading of UKIP’s manifesto suggests that they do support more generally a return of moral responsibility into society, which liberals will balk at as they generally consider morality to be an impingement on freedom, which is very flawed.

          Well said M.

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    • 5

      No doubt some party will hit on the idea of making marriage compulsory for gays but prohibited for all others…

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    • 7
      Timothy says:

      There’s Nothing Libertarian about Sodomised State Marriage.

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      • 15
        Arse says:

        You haven’t tried sodomy with your wife Timothy? You really should put it on your to-do list. Make sure she applies an anal douche beforehand of course, otherwise it could get messy.

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      • 28
        Scotticanus Ortus says:

        There’s nothing libertarian about saying “I think this is icky so it should be illegal!”.

        There’s definitely nothing libertarian about saying “My favourite Bronze Age myths should be used to define how everyone else lives”.

        The libertarian line involves saying “Since this affects no-one but the parties who are voluntarily involved, it is none of my business and certainly none of the state’s business”.

        But obviously you won’t understand this because you’re one of those libertarians whose concept of “liberty” consists of using state violence to compel everyone to follow your own religious delusions.

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        • 33
          Arse says:

          Spot on.

          UKIP, tough on anal sex, tough on the causes of anal sex.

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        • 38
          The State is ALL says:

          But this is not about whether sodomy is right or wrong. This is about the State redefining the meaning of marriage and that has nothing to do with the state.

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        • 65
          Name Optional says:

          This is like saying I should be able to go around saying I am a trained medical doctor when I am not, because it is “unlibertarian” for you to prohibit me from pretending to be a licensed medical practitioner. Or maybe we should rename cycling “swimming” because I am allergic to salt water but I quite like wearing speedos.

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    • 13
      John Locke says:

      “Liberty” is not “licence.”

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      • 30
        Scotticanus Ortus says:

        Translation: I support everyone’s liberty to do what I want them to do.

        I have to wonder what is going on in your life if the marriage of people you’ve never met and never will meet is so important to you and provokes such rage.

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        • 34
          Morals says:

          So if your neighbour was messing with a kid you had no relationship to that would not provoke rage because its got nothing to do with you?

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          • Peter Tatchell says:

            If the child consented then it could be a highly satisfying relationship for both of them.

            Got any photos? Vids?

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          • Morals says:

            Well the point I was trying to make to the douche above is that as a Libertarian, what is his view on the state interfering by specifying a minimum age of consent?

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  3. 4
    And at the Reading Court House says:

    Court 6 U20120475
    PRICE Vasiliki & HUNHE Christopher T20127076 SOUTHWARK CROWN COURT CASE
    For Mention – Resume – 10:45

    http://xhibit.justice.gov.uk/xhibit/reading.htm

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  4. 12
    Nom Dom Nom V2.1 says:

    They should have the balls to say YES it was because we do not approve of Gay marriage.

    They might get more respect rather than weasel words that are more at home at one of the other parties.

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  5. 16
    FUCKED BRITANNIA says:

    Jesus ! Has he got Aids ?

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  6. 17
    Simples says:

    Lets just have the following parties…

    1. The straight party
    2. The gay party
    3. The immigration party
    4. The EU party
    5. The worker party
    6. The Shirker party

    Sorted

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  7. 18
    Dale Winton says:

    OMG Olly Neville is such a cute twink. Am I right ladies???

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  8. 20
    Anonymous says:

    Yes we are the party of freedom of the individual and freedom from the nanny state. You are free to believe what we believe.

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  9. 21
    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    This is just what one would expect from the party of the Little Englanders.

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    • 25
      Sandra in Accounts says:

      Your post is exactly what I would expect from a complete fuckwit.

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    • 29
      Really? says:

      Good point, except for one tiny detail. UKIP are not little Englanders.

      Though I am sure the likes of Clegg, Cameron and Miliband, would desperately want the ignorant and uneducated to believe it were so.

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    • 32
      Dave says:

      Always watch out for your freedoms when parties start waffling about freedom and liberty. If not you are soon heading back to the 1950s.

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      • 51
        restore the monasteries says:

        You mean the 50’s,when we still had,”A green and pleasant land”, full of
        quaint villages with wonderful “Public Houses”where you could get a pint of
        “warm beer”, and a ploughmans lunch.A golden age of agriculture,elm trees and
        lots of railways.People spoke Queens English,respect and chivalry still existed ,and
        our law makers were looked up to..(It wasnt all rosy but it was a lovely era for most)

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  10. 24
    charleshefferblog says:

    How very un-libertarian of them.

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    • 26
      Sandra in Accounts says:

      You are confusing UKIPs libertarianism with an anarchic free-for-all.

      Different things you see….

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    • 62
      Debate? I nearly paid my licence fee says:

      UKIP are being very liberartrian – they are not opposing gay marriage and neither are they forcing religions to provide it.

      It’s very simple when you think about it.

      Charlie don’t surf
      Lefty don’t think

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      • 64
        charleshefferblog says:

        They are in fact opposing gay marriage. They’ve openly spoke against it and if they had any seats in parliament they sure as hell would vote against it.

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        • 67
          Avonian Billy says:

          A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

          There is the Civil Partnership and if homosexuals want to call it by any other name then they can go ahead.

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  11. 34
    MacGuffin says:

    ”You are not a mature political party until your youth wing goes loco…”

    But in this case it’s the youth wing that is mature and reasonable…

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    • 40
      Arse says:

      Precisely.

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    • 41
      Cameron is an EU stooge says:

      No the yoof wing is acting like an immature yoof as is to be expected. Which is to be expected but they also have to show some discipline too.

      UKIPs stance on this is very clear. They support civil partnerships and all the equal legal rights that go with them but they do not support the State redefining the meaning of marriage. It’s an honest and fair stance.

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    • 43
      Black Hole Warning says:

      Benefiteers breeding like rabbits.
      Middle class bleeding hearts all going gay.
      U.K. is fucked

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  12. 44
    That's a Labour Council for you says:

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  13. 49
    Raving Loon says:

    What’s in a name? If two concenting adults form a union that has all the benefits of marriage, is it not marriage? Why have the state change the meaning of words?

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    • 60
      The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

      Marriage is clearly defined in the Book of Common Prayer. Those people who were married in accordance with that definition can justifiably question why two people of the same sex, who do not comply with that clear definition, should have the right to call their particular union a “marriage”

      As far as I am concerned they can do what they like but what they have is not marriage. What’s up with them, can’t the think of a word that accurately describes the union that they have?

      Calling a roller skate a car because it has wheels on springs to mind.

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    Jimmy says:

    UKIP has a youth section?

    What is the age cut off? 65?

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  16. 66
    Is this why I'm being censored? says:

    FFS! You don’t like my opinions, I get that, but silently auto-chucking all my posts into the bit-bucket is intellectual cowardice!

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Seen Elsewhere

How the Carswell Story Unfolded | Sky News
How to Defect | Telegraph
Carswell Defection Will Dismay Thoughtful Tories | ConservativeHome
Carswell: Darling of the Tories, Labour and Now UKIP | Speccie
Where is the Love? | Tom Watson
Tory Eurosceptics Weakened | Speccie
Thacker Played Down Scandal | Times
How Clegg Lost the Women of Britain | Sophy Ridge
Multiculturalism: At What Price? | Allison Pearson
Labour Failed Those Victims | Labour Uncut
We Cannot Ignore the Race Issue Here | Dan Hodges


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