January 8th, 2013

Breaking: Lord Marland to Quit

marlandThe Telegraph is reporting that Lord Marland is set to resign as a business minister, after Paul Waugh suggested earlier that another Tory was to quit the government imminently. Another Tory peer quitting public life for the private sector. 

Lord Strathclyde resigned just as the PM was about to deliver his mid-term review, Lord Marland goes just as the government wins the benefits vote. You can’t beat timing like that…


248 Comments

  1. 1
    A Just For Me Bra says:

    Fed up with politics?

  2. 3
    tossers the lot of 'em says:

    What a public servant…..me first!

    • 116
      Arse fuck for freedom says:

      “In 2007 he led the closure of the British manufacturing operations of Hunter Wellington Boots and move of the manufacturing of the Hunter product range offshore, largely to Chinese owned and run factories within China.”

      A true patriot. A great loss in these difficult times.

      • 196
        Archibald Traitor says:

        Not just Hunter. Sorry old chap, but we save 0.03 pence per unit by moving our manufacturing overseas. Got to think of the shareholders. Keep the brand names, though, they’re still worth something until people realise it’s now cheap tat. Or just strip the assets for a fast buck. But you’ll still see me at the bar moaning that Britain isn’t what it used to be.

  3. 4
    Just Sayin' says:

    Rats, sinking ship ? Or something altogether more constructive ?

    The economy is getting worst, so could this be a strong signal to short GBP ?

  4. 5
    Exclusive video footage from Hoons cross examination says:

  5. 6
    Just for him pants says:

    Can’t they be like Brown and pretend to be working in parliament?

    • 16
      Gordon the medicated says:

      I am working! I’m at the vote right now! Switch on to parliamentary channel and have a look..go on..See me there? .. no?

      Well, maybe I was in the bog when you looked. But I’m definitely there. Somewhere..maybe, near the back..behind Pickles or something. check Hansard if you don’t believe me..I’m definitely there and not at home in Kirkcaldy sleeping on the sofa having spent all day making a plasticine cabinet that agree with everything I say.

  6. 7
    kacey says:

    Or getting out before it hits the fan??

    • 12
      What is stopping us from just killing them all? says:

      And they all get lynched!

    • 28
      Hawkeye Pierce says:

      A sterling crisis is imminent…and they all know it!

      Buy gold through a proxy and head for the hills…with a shot gun for insurance.

      • 33
        Toby Lerone says:

        Or Switzerland, if anyone attacks us we’ll just threaten to burn all their money!

  7. 8
    Women on a Croydon tram says:

    ‘ere wassall this ’bout me benefitz been not garn up no more?
    Wha’ if the price ‘o fags go up ‘ey? Ows I iz gonna get me fags,I ask yer?

    You lot wanna sort out me farkin’ farky bennes or i’ll burn down the farkin’ furniture shop ‘gain. You farkin’ Immis are takin’ the bennies off’a the likes of shirkers like me wot was born ‘ere, innit. thems not been born ‘nis country can fark the fark off.

    • 18
      Long balls Silver and his goat says:

      tickets please

    • 20
      Women on Croydon tram 2012 Redux says:

      - Lordy lord, he gonna take all’a’de monee from me and me babees. How are we ment to eat ? Bad man.

      - Aieeeee! Allah ackhbar….

    • 26
      I Fist my own Arse by Using my Own Head says:

      You izz a razzzzzist man. God bless ya.

  8. 9
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Labour have come up with some idea of giving the unemployed a job. Putting aside the idea these jobs would be real what would they be paid, would they pay tax and NI, would their employer have to pay NI and who pays for their travel, job training and so on?

    Labour have spouted this shit but not one BBC type has asked them that yet as far as I can see.

    • 15
      I don't nee d no do ctor says:

      Where are the jobs coming from, how long will they last, how would they be funded. If labour was in power and introduced the idea, the workers would be polish, funded by higher taxes, and last 6 months. What then?
      Liam Byrne is an utter disgrace, and full of shit.

      • 45
        Gordon Brown's Money-go-round (Client State Edition) says:

        Just create a load of non-jobs jobs in HMRC to tax people, then another load of non-jobs in DWP to pay the tax back in benefits.

        Then tell them the evil baby-eating Tories will get rid of these non-jobs so they will be scared into voting Labour.

    • 19
      The last engineer says:

      Maggie exported all the real jobs…you fuckwit!

      • 29
        Maggie says:

        Bollocks I did. You pathetic sniveling little socialist troll.
        Why are Poles and Czechs and such coming here? To do the jobs that have been exported? Or to the jobs that Labour paid shirkers not to do?

        You tit!

        • 40
          The last engineer says:

          I said real jobs. The cosmopolitan types don’t do real jobs, they just plunder the state until it’s an empty vassel.

          And if you acuse someone of being a socialist, please quantify as national or international, as we all now knowl libertarians are closet internation socialists.

          Maggie sucked the cock of her true kosher guru, Kieth Joseph.

          We are about to learn a history lesson the hard way…Arbeit Macht Frei.

          You’re the troll, or perhaps more accurately, the useful idiot.

          • Engineer says:

            You’re no engineer. If you were, you’d know that there are skill shortages in many sectors.

            By the way, it wasn’t politicians that reduced the number of unskilled and semi-skilled jobs in engineering. It was the productivity increases that followed on from the introduction of computer-controlled machinery such as CNC machine tools and assembly robots, together with better management practices and the demise of inefficient businesses. Most of the jobs in manufacturing, maintenance, development and design are now high-skill, high-value jobs. No room left for numpties in the world of engineering.

          • The last engineer says:

            “You’re no engineer. If you were, you’d know that there are skill shortages in many sectors.”

            Ad hominem aside…the skills shortages are more down to the total abandonment of the sciences in higher education. We have been deliberately dumbed down. It was a political action. Those that did pursue numerate degrees were hoovered up by the banks and finance in London. Look up Quants etc.

          • CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

            If you’re saying that State education is a failure I’d agree with you.

            Time to end child benefit, and govt subsidies for “education”.

          • Engineer says:

            @ CarryHole etc – Quite. The UK is also the world’s leader in automotive design and development (Ricardo, for example).

            @ The last engineer – The dumbing down of education is now well known, and being addressed very capably by Gove. His reforms may well turn out to be this government’s finest achievement.

          • Anonymous says:

            Engineer seems also not to be an engineer.

            Otherwise he would not stand still and cite CNC as a development that changed the work force.

            Engineering has always progressed. The work force has always moved on. Every generation of workers are doing different jobs. There is always a need of many different skills. We need sophisticated CAD now; that means we need IT support workers. Even the poor worker that maintains the 3D printer is not the worker that creates the designs. The board layout engineers are not the team that designed the new processor.

            The biggest problem with engineers is that the management never understand the constant changes that are needed. When exactly was this stability that was destroyed by computer technology?

          • Anonymous says:

            The real mistake of the 1990 was the loss of the “itinerant engineer”. These were a skilled set of engineers that went from company to company, providing the work force to man the large intensive design projects.

            The companies could not afford to hold on to the 20, or so, staff continuously. So they basically shared the engineers. The engineers were paid well, but also took on the risk of gaps in the work. The problem was that the tax changes made the situation uncertain and so put engineers in a position of uncertainty.

            Politicians have never understood the mentality of engineers, they will cope with all the technical uncertainties of the world, but give them an uncertainty outside their control and they will walk away. The teams were destroyed within about a year. The work went abroad and the role of the offshore design houses replaced the UK itinerant engineer.

            These engineers also provided the communication channels and cross training that fuelled the advancements.

            We need some real Engineers as MPs, if we are ever to be represented.

          • Engineer says:

            It would seem that Anonymous doesn’t know much about engineering.

            CNC changed manufacturing significantly, by replacing all the semi-skilled capstan and turret lathe operators, and semi-skilled millers, drillers and grinders with a new breed of up-skilled operators who could manage several machines at once. A CNC machining centre can do the work that previously required time on several different machines, and with better accuracy, repeatability and surface finish.

            ‘Contractors’ (or ‘hired staff’ if you want to be all posh about it) were always a large part of the design scene, and they still are. I earned my corn as a weekly-paid contractor for a couple of years in the early part of the last decade (and it was good corn, too). Nowadays, many of them mitigate their tax affairs by joining collective companies.

    • 22
      BBC RED BOTTOM says:

      We never question labour policy.

    • 31
      Huper says:

      this policy was written using one of Gordon Brown freeze tried turd crayons

    • 39
      2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

      People especially the Socialist scum who inhabit this blog have to get use to the idea that the game is over for statism.There will always be rich people,poor people and those of us somewhere in between,the techtonic plates have moved government cant create jobs only a dynamic uninhibted private sector that can compete with the Chinese ad the Asian rim not forgetting the German economy with its untouchable manufacturing base,welfare has to be cut ,general public spending and overseas aid,if we dont act now the consequences will be dire,shit happens get over it.

      • 81
        Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

        How dire? Poundland, Poundstretcher, Wilkinsons and Peacocks all closing their branches on Corset Street?

    • 78
      Franklin Roosevelt says:

      Do like I did. Get some half-fast boondoggle public works projects going, over budget and going past their completion date, and sell the people on the idea that although it’s really not full-time skilled work for the most part (except for the academic and artsy types we need to help shill for the whole thing), it’s there to help the poor retain or regain their “dignity” by having them put in a few hours of work for the pittance we’re going to give them. We were going to do some of these projects anyway, but they became a lot cheaper when we didn’t need to pay the “prevailing” wage for full-time employees (only the “living” wage for part-timers), and we didn’t need union workers (except for the “skilled trades).” And once the projects are done, charge user fees to amortize the cost and, in future, to provide revenue to the Government.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Works_Progress_Administration

      • 212
        Economist says:

        Funny. Before you dicks in Europe dived into austerity on the IMF say so, a lot of us were saying do just that.

        Oh well…

      • 229
        Anonymous says:

        He also began by creating over 300,000 new jobs and a tax windfall with the repeal of prohibition.

  9. 11
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Is it also quite likely these people off the dole would be exploited and used by firms instead of employing people on proper wages?

  10. 14
    Just for him pants says:

    Well, if they are going to cut welfare then it is only fair that bankers should not be so generously rewarded for failure. It is the bankers who helped create this sinking economy.

    • 23
      Master of the Universe says:

      But the rest of you plebs serve the banking sector…not the other way round.

    • 25
      I don't nee d no do ctor says:

      May I remind you of the years between 1997 to 2010 when boom and bust had ended for ever. Where was the “rainy day” fund for hard times?

  11. 17
    Kushty King says:

    Lord who? He looks like David Gower’s brother.

    If he quits, strip him of his peerage.

  12. 24
    Tonto says:

    Plenty smoke.

  13. 27
    In other news... says:

    Church’s still under attack ?

  14. 32
    nellnewman says:

    One thing is for sure – this coalition may make it to 2015 but there will not be a tory / libdem coalition after that.

  15. 34
    tourmaline says:

    One thing is very evident there will not be a tory / libdem coalition after 2015.

    • 41
      Woolyback says:

      No it will be a Labour / Libdum one instead, sadly I suppose within 2 years, we will all be kicking the crap out of each other, I hope the third world parties are as good as the first world ones.

    • 51
      CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

      Hard to have a coalition with a party that won’t exist…

      • 58
        tourmaline says:

        I think the libdems will exist after 2015 but in a much reduced state.

        UKIP are likely to be more influential in that they will attract more voters but not necessarily any mp’s.

        Such is life!

        • 108
          Hadrian (Emp.) says:

          As a man in search of a vehicle Millipede M. could usefully take the UKIP driving seat and let Nigel`s swivelling eyeballs take a rest.

  16. 35
    Hard Times says:

    The poor man is being haunted by Oliver Twist. Forever looking over his right shoulder.

  17. 38
    tourmaline says:

    So liam’there’s no money left’ byrne says we should not be cutting welfare benefits and then expects us to conveniently forget what a shower labour were over economics.

    They’ll need to do better than that if they are going to win enough votes in 2015 to form another government.

    Not going to happen!

  18. 44
    Engineer says:

    Lord Who?

    Never heard of him.

    • 50
      tourmaline says:

      Interesting that Lords are leaving – that couldn’t be because they have milked the system sufficiently to ensure a comfortable retirement could it?!!

      • 217
        Old Father Time says:

        Oh Dear, how sad. Check out the expenses on line. Around £3000 a month in daily allowance alone. And only around 850 of them.
        Shame for the benefit scroungers though.

    • 84
      Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

      Nor me. Will this be headline news in the Buenos Aires newspapers?

  19. 46
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron has spun well since the new year, but alas back to reality!

    How long before the men in suits show up?

    Can they really go into the election knowing full well they are going to be slaughtered?

    Cameron really is just the heir to blair in totality.

    Out of touch completely with most tory voters.

    I told you so!

  20. 47
    Anonymous says:

    Perhaps he’s going to join the real tory party known as UKIP?

    Can understand not being happy with new labour, and Europhile leader Cameron

    • 148
      Anonymous says:

      UK IP.

      Farage can do what is right for him and hopefully for the country if he has the spiritual energy. …for he may wish to go from small scale to large scale.

      Mother’s represent spiritual energy so should Farage have good relations with his mother he can be independant and do his own thing. Despite this he may have to settle for the power of small, for now.

  21. 48
    King's Cross starting to be a job opp again, ey Northern girls says:

    We’re going morally downhill again, directed from central tory government.

    1980′s again, and the local Vicar has his head in his hands, saying “Not again!”.

    • 53
      nellnewman says:

      Talking of Kings Cross I was there on Friday bringing YoungNells down to London for the day.

      Very impressive place now. And we had a really easy trip from home to london by rail and back. And at very reasonable cost!

    • 55
      tourmaline says:

      Talking of Kings Cross we were there with YoungNells on Friday. Very impressive place. And we took YoungNells to London and back by rail at very reasonable cost.

      • 64
        King's Cross starting to be a job opp again, ey Northern girls says:

        Heard King’s Cross has cleaned up, but it will soon be back to the same with the tories , blow job for a fiver from a girl from Bradford, to feed her two kids being looked after by their grandmother.

        • 67
          tourmaline says:

          Huh?

        • 97
          Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

          There used to be a large porno cinema across the road. In the 1980′s whilst in London (as it was called in those days) on a course and after heavy lunchtime session I thought I’d try it out.

          “Can I smoke in there?” I asked
          “You can do what you facking like in there mate” came the reply.

          I only stayed about there about 5 minutes as the urge to have another drink got the better of me.

        • 101
          Wayne Rooney says:

          I’d rather do the Grandmother

          • King's Cross starting to be a job opp again, ey Northern girls says:

            Heard grandmothers even from Bradford coined it, on the hot Thursday night to Sunday morning shift, in around King’s Cross in Thatcher’s eighties.

        • 145
          Mohamed says:

          Thanks to the Labour party the girl from Bradford is likely to be wearing a burka and be a devout Muslim. They do not engage in such disgusting western behaviour and are not the dirty old northern tarts of the Thatcher era.

  22. 56
    Anonymous says:

    The reason for the coalition to exist was to give credence to our financial systems via reducing borrowing to save our AAA rating.

    After 2.5 years they have already failed.

    We will owe more as a country now under Cameron, by the end of this parliament than under the most hated pm in centuries.

    Can any one tell us exactly what has changed?

    • 60
      tourmaline says:

      And I thought the coalition came into existence by a deal cobbled together by grasping politicians desperate to get themselves into power!!

    • 63
      I don't nee d no do ctor says:

      Our finances were worse than believed going into the 2010 election. Add this to a global slow down and you have the mess we see now.
      It could well be that things will get much worse, and a lot more cuts will be needed.
      What is sickening is the denial from labour, who I truely hope will be unelectable for a long time.
      We may not like what the tories are doing, but I would sooner have them in power at the moment than that lying bunch of scum labour.

      • 66
        Anonymous says:

        but what is the difference between cameron and Labour? He definitely isnt a tory

        • 72
          I don't nee d no do ctor says:

          Being PM is not easy, having to tread a fine line all round. Personally I think Cameron should tell the Lib Dems, Labour, UKIP, The Greens, and the media to fuck off.

        • 75
          tourmaline says:

          The difference between cameron and labour is very stark tonight.

          labour want to keep buying votes by paying generous benefits to those who are capable of working but won’t.

          cameron wants benefits for folks who can’t work and for folks who can to get out there and be productive.

          • Anonymous says:

            you have been around very long in political terms, have you?

            it seems you are prepared to actually believe what a politician says!

            How can you tell when a politician is lying? well they open their mouths!

            Still, you’ll learn.

          • tourmaline says:

            Well what can I say?

            Did you listen to the debate in the HoC today – did you hear liam’I spent all your money’byrne spouting his hypocrisies?

            What do you make of him??!!

    • 69
      Impartial Observer says:

      Some of the suits are blue pinstripes. There are fewer red ties around. The standard of catering offered to the public at non-corporate events in Portcullis House is worse.

  23. 61
    Anonymous says:

    We are a completely polarised nation, leaderless,rudderless.

    Decades to come for most plebs of struggle, but not of course for the political intelligensia, especially if you have a gold plated Westminster pension or even better, a platinum starred Euro Commission pension!

    • 68
      Anonymous says:

      “We are a completely polarised nation, leaderless,rudderless.”

      But that’s the very nature of liberal democracy folks!

      Look up “Camera, Lights, Democracy”.

      1920′s & 30′s Germany cried out for leadership…and national socialism delivered it to them.

      We haven’t even started feeling the full effects of the depression we are about to experience. Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

  24. 70
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron , the man who changed the meaning of the word, veto!!

    you have to laugh!

  25. 74
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron, the man who has allowed Merkel to gain everything she wants.

    Especially the transfer of economic power from London to Frankfurt from 2014.

    • 76
      tourmaline says:

      And here I was thinking that 13 years of bliar and brown had something to do with that.

      bliar certainly thinks so and hopes that his years as pm is going to stand him in good stead to succeed von rumpoy as Eu President.

      God Forbid!!

      • 79
        Anonymous says:

        no, osborne has agreed all the changes that merkel wanted to take banking out of london.

        • 95
          tourmaline says:

          Don’t you believe it!

          Merkel is coming to the end of her sell by date! And george knows it too!

          • Anonymous says:

            she will be re elected later in the autumn, absolutely no question, you’ll see. The germans want all their money back from ever country they lent it to, and they know they will get it from her, no matter how much they fuck that country up and that the unemployment it causes is a price well worth paying.

          • rebekah says:

            That may be true but frau merkel like all political leaders everywhere will come to a failed end and the eu’s german ascendancy will eventually crash – this year next year . ++shrugs++

            The euro has already failed and will cease to exist within my lifetime.

      • 143
        stewartedwards says:

        Bad news for Blair, the EU Presidents job is mine. Man on the people, worked his way out of a broken home on a Scots council estate, worked on the factory floor and in the global professions. The man who has proven himself to stick his head up above the parapet time and time again, and who has inspired a few hearts globally. Not scared to make people think, to bang heads and kick ass.

        Jobs in the bag, in the bag I tell you.

        Vote Stewart for an EU that listens. Now where do I get an aplication form?

  26. 77
    Anonymous says:

    Are there any real Tory’s left now in Camerons new labour party?

    You need look no further than these to see who still run the so called tory pary.

    heseltine, brittan, clarke and howe

    • 85
      tourmaline says:

      Even bigger question is are there any real labour folks left.

      Once upon a time the labour party was for us, the working class. Nowadays it represents a very narrow £millionaire, leftwing london point of view represented by folks like chuckusyamoney, bobcrow , pollytwaddle, hattyharpic and the militwit brothers.

      Not to mention liam”we’ve spent all your money”byrne and Ed’sold you’re gold at brown bottom’balls !!!

  27. 80
    I don't nee d no do ctor says:

    What’s the plural of anonymous? It’s anonymous overload tonight.

    • 86
      Anonymous says:

      i think you do need a doctor, you seem under a lot of stress your self?

      • 89
        and Badger says:

        Mashed potato.

      • 169
        I don't nee d no do ctor says:

        yourself is one word. Stress, fucking stress, I’m not stressed, am I fuck. My shrink said I was doing really well, and then you spoil it all. I’ve made real progress since the incident with the chainsaw, stress, no not me, fuck no.

    • 88
      Engineer says:

      Anonymice?

      I suspect Troll Control has sent them out for rebuttal exercise over benefit reform, and they’re a bit frustrated that nobody’s frothing about it.

      • 94

        Channel 4 news seemed a bit upset.

        • 99
          Engineer says:

          Well, they’ve got to fill the air-time with something. ‘Government trying to act rationally’ doesn’t make much of a headline, does it?

          • I don't nee d no do ctor says:

            And they have done Jon Snow’s bus pass to death, mind you we are in a new year, so Snow’s bus pass routine might show it’s ugly face again.

        • 213
          The BBC causes serious mental illness says:

          Fuck Channel 4 news, we’re gonna milk this baby.

  28. 82
    Anonymous says:

    Above all else, he just wants to PM, ‘cameron, in a nutshell, just like brown did. Both eventually fucking the country but not themselves!

    • 91
      tourmaline says:

      ‘He’ who’s he?

      Is he what my Mother used to call the cat’s aunt?

      • 100
        Anonymous says:

        you must be very old and about to lose all your old age benefits, after all, you never really worked for them any way, did you? and must just be living off the young peoplel of today?

        • 105
          tourmaline says:

          Pardon? What twaddle are you spouting?

          For those of us who have worked all our life and are still working past retirement I’ve no idea what you wittering about!

  29. 90
    Anonymous says:

    bit late for lords a leaping in it?

  30. 92
    Ed Moribund says:

    I have a sneaking suspicion that I’ve missed a bandwagon.

  31. 93
    AtillaTheHun says:

    It surely must be time for a Calamity Cameron tag?

  32. 96
    anonymous says:

    I aren’t half thick.

  33. 98
    anonymous says:

    Its double time paid trolling from Labour central tonight boys!
    Fill your boots.

    • 107
      tourmaline says:

      Indeed – and I’ve never heard such a load of nonsense as labour trolls have spouted on here tonight!!

      Did they really thihk that would win them pojnts and votes. Sad!!

    • 109
      rebekah says:

      I’ve never heard such a load of nons ense as labou r tro lls have spo uted on here tonight!!

      Did they really think that would win them poi nts and vot es.

      Sad!!!

  34. 103
    Piss Organ says:

    Commentary from a fugitive torture photo faker. Spot the usual spin technique:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/01/exclusive-piers-morgan-discusses-alex-jones-153617.html#.UOx0BmS_8n0.twitter

    Note: If AJ’s rant does bring people to their senses and makes them think more about their rights rather than buying AK’s then he has done more good than Morgan. Also: Throughout the rant, he did not once use an ad hominem against Piers, he only attacked the argument.

    People over their notice that, which is why Morgan’s piece here will come across as pi$$y.

    • 218
      Bill O'Reilly says:

      While Piers Morgan and that pinhead Alex Jones were having their little tete-a-tete over on CNN at 0200 UTC, I had already discussed, in my broadcast an hour earlier on FOX, what invasion of privacy of legal gun owners could lead to. This, in response to a report by Gannett (publishers of USA Today), in their local newspaper serving the northern suburbs of New York City, in which names and addresses of local registered gun owners, suspected of no crime or wrongdoing of any kind, were made available to anyone through the paper’s website. This information would be available to local police anyway, and, while technically it is a public record which a Freedom Of Information Act request might provide, there would be no pressing public need to know such that a newspaper needs to provide access to every name and address to all comers, thus bypassing the official procedures. It is clear that the purpose of Gannett was to harass the gun owners, a name-and-shame operation, if you will. Of course, if any person owned a gun unlawfully in those counties, by definition, it would not show up in the record, and the public safety issue of “knowing just how many guns are really out there” can be seen for the sham it is. Gannett’s actions would seem to be encouraging clandestine gun ownership so as to avoid publicity, thus defeating any purpose they might have in any specious argument that by publicizing gun ownership, they may cut the crime rate by discouraging possible home invasion robberies; any thief would wait till all persons had left the premises, and then burglarize it, taking what guns he would discover as well, a Law of Unintended Consequences for Gannett if ever there was one– “Hey, bad guys, these are the houses where the homeowner has a gun, but does not have a carry-permit for it, and must it leave behind when he leaves the house!” Brilliant, simply damned brilliant, Gannett! Why not put up neon signs too, while you’re at it?
      It’s pretty easy to see why Gannett did it– to raise anemic circulation with a scare story on the heels of the CT shootings. It’s also pretty easy to see that when you demonize gun owners, all of a sudden an idiot like Alex Jones doesn’t seem as stark raving mad as you might originally think, at least not on this subject.
      http://www.billoreilly.com/video?chartID=556&vid=42845031035849476

  35. 106
    kacey says:

    I am amazed that people still argue politics and can’t see that ‘they are all in this together’. They pretend to have spats but their end results are the global same. Implement Agenda 21 and you get big fat rewards.
    Forget which party they belong to…its all pantomime, they play different parts when they get ‘democratically elected’ to stitch up the public…haha!

    • 110
      Buttons says:

      Yep, that’s the LibLabCon!

    • 113
      rebekah says:

      Ah Agenda 21 !! Global Warming!! AGW!! “Rising seas that are going to drown us. More Hurricanes ” !!

      All associated with climate change ministers (militwit!), climate change ‘scientists with dodgy stats’ and folks like yeo and prezza making money out of it!!

      Real working class folks simply don’t believe them!!

  36. 111
    Eurolalaland says:

    Eurozone unemployment hits new record high of 11.8%

    • 114
      rebekah says:

      EU Youth unemployment is nearer to 50%!!

    • 115
      my dogs got no nose says:

      its a price worth paying to save the euro, how else are we gonna get our money back that we lent you to buy our porches?

      • 128
        rebekah says:

        There is no chance of saving the euro . It is irrevocably lost.

        EU politicians are lying through their bums at the moment to try and keep it going for as long as possible in order to keep them in the luxury to which they have become accustomed.

        But it is all going to come crashing down around their ears in due course!!

      • 136
        Nogbad the Bad says:

        Didn’t know we imported porches, do we make anything these days?

        • 211
          All This Were Fields says:

          I think Arkwright’s Almalgamated Widgets in Great Tosson is still going. Other than that, I’m not sure.

    • 120
      EU Watch says:

      More worrying than unemployment, defense spending at all time low:

      http://www.acus.org/?q=natosource/defense-spending-among-eu-member-states-record-low

      Could we be headed for a union forged in blood ? Keep a close eye on what is going on in Turkey…

      • 126
        Wavey Davey says:

        Turkey should join the EU we need more muzzies.

        • 160
          EU Watch says:

          Turkey is actually partially being used as a model for future stable !slamic states. The sectarian change in policy which occurred back in 2006 should be clear by now.

          Consider Turkey to be coarsely secularist Kemalists losing ground to !slamists (hate that term) at present.

          Incidentally, Greece is just a little bit concerned about Turkey generally, which is why they are maintaining their defense spending despite austerity. Check history to understand why :-)

      • 132
        EU Watch says:

        To point on Turkey:

        http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/us-has-sent-roughly-half-patriot-missile-equipment-turkey/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

        There are a lot of Russian ships arriving in Tartus now, largely an evacuation fleet, but what was originally reported as a couple of vessels last week seems to have turned into about 5 making about 16 now in Tartus.

        They may be there to prevent a land incursion.

        It is not clear at all if Russia / Iran have abandoned Assad: Many Western outlets were running that Propaganda, but PressTV / RT seem to be saying different.

        Apparently the Palestinian ‘exPats’ who live in Syria have been asking the rebels fighting in their area to go away as they really don’t agree with them. Sounds like local support on the ground is still there for the government despite the activities of the insurgents.

        Hague’s mobile phone drop last year has led to some very disturbing Syrian happy slap vids making their way on to YouTube. Down there, still living genital mutilation and coup de grace by converting defeated chaps into human mops with iron bars seems to be the way to go.

        The FUKUS peace talks should be starting soon…

  37. 121
    Saffron says:

    This so called lord is only quitting to put his nose into the private sector trough,like the other feckin one just before him.
    OZZIEBOURN sayin that he is not going to claim family allowance is an absolute sick joke.
    Cammoron as I have said many times is a PR merchant and nothing less,as for Cleggover and his radio phone in’s,well words fail me,this guy is going to get absolutely hammered.
    Finally the more I see of this insane Liebour bunch of barstewards the more I fear for this country.
    I do not see any politico’s who are interested in the welfare of this land and it’s indigeonous people,we are overrun by claimants from all parts of the world and we the taxpayers are paying for it.
    Wakey wakey people you are being raped by your governments of whatever ilk,so please smell the coffee and put a stop to it.
    It is your future afterall.

  38. 130
    unemployment: a price worth paying to save the euro. says:

    Youth unemployment hurts me, says Spain’s king as he turns 75 from his palace.

    25.02% in Q3, imagine that figure in the UK?

    53% youth unemployment, can you believe this 53%!!

    It seems no politician cares any more, not even the left?

    Remember, unemployment is a price worth paying under thatcher quotation?

    These stats are truly shocking, even more shocking is the fact that no politician cares enough to do anything about it.

    • 138
      rebekah says:

      The euro is already dead . It cannot be saved.

      The euro is a corpse that eu politicians are pretending is still alive in the hope that the rest of us will believe them!!

      • 153
        CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

        A customer enters a pet shop.
        Customer: ‘Ello, I wish to register a complaint.
        (The owner does not respond.)
        C: ‘Ello, Miss?
        Owner: What do you mean “miss”?
        C: I’m sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
        O: We’re closin’ for lunch.
        C: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this currency what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
        O: Oh yes, the, uh, the Belgian DampRag…What’s,uh…What’s wrong with it?
        C: I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it, my lad. ‘E’s dead, that’s what’s wrong with it!
        O: No, no, ‘e’s uh,…he’s resting.
        C: Look, matey, I know a dead currency when I see one, and I’m looking at one right now.
        O: No no he’s not dead, he’s, he’s restin’! Remarkable note, the Belgian DampRag, idn’it, ay? Beautiful caligraphy!
        C: The caligraphy don’t enter into it. It’s stone dead.
        O: Nononono, no, no! ‘E’s resting!
        C: All right then, if he’s restin’, I’ll wake him up!
        (shouting at the cage)
        ‘Ello, Mister Eury currency! I’ve got a lovely fresh CDS for you if you show…(owner hits the cage)
        O: There, he moved!
        C: No, he didn’t, that was you hitting the cage!
        O: I never!!
        C: Yes, you did!
        O: I never, never did anything…
        C: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) ‘ELLO Eury!!!!!
        Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o’clock alarm call!
        (Takes currency out of the cage and thumps its head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches it plummet to the floor.)
        C: Now that’s what I call a dead currency.
        O: No, no…..No, ‘e’s stunned!
        C: STUNNED?!?
        O: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin’ up! Belgian DampRags stun easily, major.
        C: Um…now look…now look, mate, I’ve definitely ‘ad enough of this. That currency is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not ‘alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein’ tired and shagged out following a prolonged economic downturn.
        O: Well, he’s…he’s, ah…probably pining for the fjords.
        C: PININ’ for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got ‘im home?
        O: The Belgian DampRag prefers kippin’ on it’s back! Remarkable note, id’nit, squire? Lovely caligraphy!
        C: Look, I took the liberty of examining that currency when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its exchange rate perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there bu the central banks.
        (pause)
        O: Well, o’course it was nailed there! If I hadn’t nailed that note down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent ‘em apart with its purcahsing power, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!
        C: “VOOM”?!? Mate, this note wouldn’t “voom” if you put four million volts through it! ‘E’s bleedin’ demised!
        O: No no! ‘E’s pining!
        C: ‘E’s not pinin’! ‘E’s passed on! This currency is no more! He has ceased to be! ‘E’s expired and gone to meet ‘is maker!
        ‘E’s a stiff! Bereft of life, ‘e rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed ‘im to the perch ‘e’d be pushing up the daisies!

        ‘Is metabolic processes are now ‘istory! ‘E’s off the twig!

        ‘E’s kicked the bucket, ‘e’s shuffled off ‘is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisibile!!
        THIS IS AN EX-currency!!
        (pause)
        O: Well, I’d better replace it, then.
        (he takes a quick peek behind the counter)
        O: Sorry squire, I’ve had a look ’round the back of the shop, and uh, we’re right out of currencys.
        C: I see. I see, I get the picture.

    • 164
      Nogbad the Bad says:

      Yet another lie told about Margaret Thatcher. It was Norman Lamont who said “Rising unemployment and the recession have been the price that we have had to pay to get inflation down. That price is well worth paying”. At least he was speaking the truth, as he saw it. Modern politicians would lie and spin to avoid saying the same thing. I would rather they spoke the truth, but they can’t do that without making themselves look “uncaring”.

  39. 134
    i'm a troll,folderol,n ill eat u for my supper! says:

    How do you tell if its a tory troll, a liebour troll, a libdem troll, a ukip troll or just a troll? pray do tell?

    • 136
      King's Cross starting to be a job opp again, ey Northern girls says:

      look between the lines

      • 147
        Fabians are Evil says:

        Labour ‘activists’ make me puke – spotty nerds with 6th form knowledge of economics and life with about as much common sense as a drunk 14 year old girl.

        The Labour ‘machine’ uses them and makes ‘em feel important and valued – Oh if only they knew the contempt in which they are held by the rich marxist scum that run that well oiled ‘milking stool’.

        As for the Labour trolls that pop up here…….like little boys playing knock-out-ginger.

        • 228
          Goats do it better says:

          and tory trolls? Pray tell.

          A better class of “spotty nerds with 6th form knowledge of economics and life with about as much common sense as a drunk 14 year old girl”?

    • 140
      e truths. says:

      You could try looking for so

    • 146
      rebekah says:

      You could try looking for some truths.

      For example: Is your troll saying that labour will be great economists and save the world if only you will vote for them? Given labour’s 13 years of dire economic history this is clearly a lie and the person posting is therefore very obviously a labour troll.

  40. 141
    unemployment: a price worth paying to save the euro. says:

    You can see Cameron now as he canvasses in the next election.

    “I have this piece of paper here and the EU have promised me, that from now on, there will not be any further EU treaties ever, to forge a United States of Europe and I have a list of powers that have all agreed to cede back to the UK”

    I can’t wait to vote for him!!

    • 151
      rebekah says:

      You can see militwit now as he canvasses in the next election.

      “I have this blank piece of paper here and the EU have promised me, that the UK will continue to contribute £billions to keep the euro afloat to give kinnochio and his wife and bliar and slotgob a luxury lifestyle forever more!! Mandy too is hopeful that he can get a few more £millions out of europe if only labour can win the next election.

      If labour win the next election we shall make sure that bliar becomes the next eu president after von rompuy!!!

      There can be no better reason to vote for labour in 2015 than this!! (Just imagine the letterbox one as Mrs EU President!!)

      • 156
        I LOVE MY EU GOLD PLATED PENSION says:

        well at least we now know you are just another eurohile troll just like your leader.

        • 162
          rebekah says:

          You are very fortunate to have a gold plated pension. I don’t have one of those and I am not a paid up tory .

          What I am is a working class voter without a party to vote for.

          What happened to the real labour party?

    • 155
      David Cameron says:

      The settlement of the EU problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace. This morning I had another talk with the German Chancellor, Herr Merkel, and here is the paper which bears her name as well as mine. Some of you, perhaps, have already heard what it contains. We regard the agreement signed last night as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again. My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from the EU bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

      • 159
        I LOVE MY EU GOLD PLATED PENSION says:

        may I say sir, very well put indeed, vey well articulated, i couldn’t have put it better myself!

      • 161
        CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

        Wealth for our time?

      • 168
        rebekah says:

        So what you are saying is that Germany wants guaranteed political and economic dominance of Europe in prder to prevent it from going to war again? Is that it??!!

      • 172
        genghiz the kahn says:

        I am speaking to you from the Cabinet Room at 10 Downing Street. This morning, the British Ambassador in Brussels handed the European Commission a final note, stating that unless we heard from them by 11 o’clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from ******, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with The EU…
        The situation in which no word given by The EU’s rulers could be trusted and no people or country could feel itself safe, has become intolerable. And now we have resolved to finish it, I know that you will all play your part…
        May God bless you all. And may He defend the right, for it is evil things that we shall be fighting against – brute force, bad faith, injustice, oppression and persecution; and against them I am certain that right will prevail.

      • 221
        Herman von Bumboy says:

        Something lost in translation there, Herr Camoron – that last bit should have read ‘from the heart of our bottoms‘.

  41. 152
    I LOVE MY EU GOLD PLATED PENSION says:

    IDS: pensioners’ benefits cut could appear in next manifesto

    so just what all you tory supporters will be voting for in 2015?

    but will they cut theirs?

    • 166
      Werther's Original says:

      Pensioners’ will not be touched by any of the LibLabCon, as they’re all scared shitless of the gray vote.

    • 180
      Nogbad the Bad says:

      It’s never going to happen. They might stop paying the winter fuel allowance to hard-pressed pensioners like Bernie Ecclestone, but the average OAP will not lose out.

  42. 167
    I LOVE MY EU GOLD PLATED PENSION says:

    is rebekah really nell in disguise?

  43. 170
    I LOVE MY EU GOLD PLATED PENSION says:

    visit here after the next election and prepare to eat your words. remember you are talking politicians here eg no university tuition fees in the manifesto? then introduce them. sorry you forgot?

  44. 181
    Blowing Whistles says:

    The Miliband Brothers – You can trust the Communists – to be Communists.

    • 185
      rebekah says:

      Militwits are Interesting communists.

      They came penniless from eastern europe in WW2 to the UK and then were suddenly £millionaires.

      How did that happen?

      • 187
        socialism really does work says:

        Helping the poor and vulnerable obviously pays very well.

      • 188
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Their puppet masters – financed them. How easy is that to understand?

      • 203
        kacey says:

        Hm! Didn’t Cleggies folk come from Russia and Dave is eighth cousin of Donald Cameron, the present Chief of Clan Cameron. Not an Englishman in sight.

    • 201
      conspiracy feary says:

      Perhaps the Miliblands are just elements of a sleeper cell awakened by their overseas handlers. Ed is the decoy.

  45. 182
    I LOVE MY EU GOLD PLATED PENSION says:

    what’s more rancid a 1% cap on benefits

    or the influx of yet millions more from Bulgaria and Romania from 2014.

    More Britains will need the benefits as they take their jobs.

    • 204
      Mind the gap says:

      What we need is more folks. More folks and even more folks, why? Because it is racist not too.

      When the bullshit unravels, that is when I will start collecting swivel eyes and unfortunately no amount of pink hair or PC brainwashing is going to help.
      Financial calamity is inevitable, social brutality, the disgusting behaviour that rears its head, when the finances of a country go totally pear shaped is unavoidable.

      Our government know full well the former, yet seem to load the dice for an ever more unpleasant latter. Then again it must be the plan!

  46. 183
    zarzuela says:

    Why are countries like greece impoverishing their people so badly to stay in the euro?

    Only reason can be that their leaders are making personal £millions by forcing their struggling people to stay there.

    Time for a revolution I think!

    • 189
      Mind the gap says:

      Where has all this Neoliberalism Bollox got us any how?

      It’s going to be a very rough ride for this nation in the coming years.
      Which was sold out to global business interests by a bunch of phoney conservatives in the Tory party and a bunch of phoney socialists in New Labour.

      I’d take a true conservative or true socialist over the two faced neoliberal liars any day. The real fight in the future will be between the globalists and the nationalists, that’s where all this is heading.

    • 208
      EU Watch says:

      Incorrect.

      It is because the military will not allow them to withdraw as it would give them a headache, and cut off their funding.

      Incidentally, PASOK threw out a couple of MP’s the other day, Syriza is not down and out. The Lagarde list is one of the bigger issues there at present, other than some of the issues mentioned above.

      http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/01/07/democratic-left-boots-two-mps/

      To MTG’s point: Neo-liberalism has bought us amoral societies which lack strength and self respect.

      • 209
        EU Watch says:

        The other reason Greece have not left – Germany does not mind footing the bill as they know Greece will sign strategic deal with Russian’s the moment they leave the EU.

        Think Piraeus.

  47. 184
    Piss Organ Ratings Watch says:

    Perhaps CNN want the mong deported as well:

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/01/08/piers-morgan-is-a-ratings-machine-not/

    • 225
      Lou Scannon says:

      You know, I think I just might prefer to see Piers back if only we could get the Corrupt News Network banned from UK airwaves as part of the deal.

  48. 195
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Interesting Court Case (RCiJ) about the PCC / ACPOld boys stuff mentioned on CH4 tonight. Umm indeed M’lud.

  49. 206
    UKim Jong-un says:
  50. 214
    Abu Q Watch says:

    The DM must be bored:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259110/Bins-Laden-Hate-cleric-Abu-Qatada-surrounded-rubbish-empties-bins-new-home-paid-taxpayers.html?ITO=socialnet-twitter-mailonline

    + Ignorant. All the food mentioned is halal, so fine for !slamic follower, and the price of the house in London sounds like going rate in a slum. Tax payer is only paying rent in any case, so value of property itself is sort of irrelevant.

    Not a big fan of the guy, but still not sure what this article was trying to prove other than that he shops locally, sorts his recycling and eats food.

    He could do with a new wardrobe though – that more traditional angle of theirs they missed.

  51. 216
    SORT says:

    Odd goings on at WH Ireland where Marland is part of a consortium – with David Ross (ahem,) that own 26%.

  52. 219
    MB. says:

    There are Joy Division songs about Hell that are funnier than Radio 4 comedy.
    Retweeted by Guido Fawkes

    Listening to The News Quiz Extra yesterday made me wonder why it is thought funny to call the Royal family Germans because their ancestors came from there a couple of hundred years ago but if you say someone who came from Pakistan or Somalia a few months ago is not British then you are racist?

  53. 220
    Jimmy says:

    “While the general sentiment you expressed may be realistic, politically your message was contrary to party policy”

    [Stephen Crowther, Chairman, Notthebeeyenpee, admonishing the chairman of their Under-65 section]

  54. 223

    If you think you can’t sleep, then take a look at this:

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/618857/thumbs/o-CARINA-TRININGHAM-900.jpg?1

    Then you definitely won’t!

  55. 224
    Goats do it better says:

    Totally offtopic: Happy Birthday Kate. A fine member of the goaty club.

    mmmm,
    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/08/article-2258875-0C198763000005DC-49_470x632.jpg

    • 227
      Goats do it better says:

      HRH Kate, that is, if you haven’t caught up yet.

      • 236
        Goats do it better says:

        Song for Kate, loosely connected to my name today. They’re Sveiss you know, believe it or not.

        Today, I am coming out of the closet – yes, I am a goat too.

  56. 237
    Dave"The One Term Prime Minister" Cameron says:

    Back in bed with a brew…bliss

    Just not in the mood for PMQ’s today.

    • 238
      Goats do it better says:

      Carry on PMQs is the best film around.

      Now that is an interesting name for a film? Right, down to the patent office, get the urls, get a posh London agent – sorted.

  57. 239
    Goats do it better says:

    Newsnight was pants last night. Typical London living media bubble beeb Shepherd’s Bush load of gobshite crap, twas.

  58. 246
    SORT says:

    Wonder what he’sgoing to do? Isn’t Marland’s wife a probation officer?


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Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”



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