January 3rd, 2013

Letwin Settles Up – Bins Carbon Reduction Global Agreement

Another nail in the husky coffin as Cabinet Office Minister Oliver Letwin concedes defeat to Nigel Lawson and accepts that the Kyoto Treaty is dead and nothing will be following it. Back in 2008 the two men made a bet, the details of which were published in a Standpoint interview:

Oliver Lewtin: I’d be very happy to have a wager, and I offer you a £100 bet that before either of us is dead, whichever is the first — our estates can pay — we will see a very substantial agreement on carbon reduction.

Nigel Lawson: But I don’t think I want the bet to be “in my lifetime” because I’d like to get the £100. I’m sorry it’s such a modest amount you’re prepared to wager — it shows how unconfident you are — but I would like to be able to collect before I die. So I think we should say “by the time Kyoto runs out”, because there is meant to be no hiatus; there is meant to be a successor to Kyoto. So “by 2012 we will have the agreement” — maybe I’ll die before then, of course —but 2012 is the acid test.

Oliver Letwin: On the same basis, Nigel, I’m perfectly willing to take that bet too. The reason I’m willing to take the bet is that I know that the only way it can be made to happen is if we try to make it happen and if we build up the moral authority to make it happen by taking the steps ourselves.

Letwin has apparently now agreed to settle the bet. Lord Lawson is on a bit of victory lap this afternoon:

“Oliver is one of the nicest people in politics, and one of the cleverest. It is, however, disconcerting that UK climate change policy – which makes no conceivable sense in the absence of a binding global agreement – has been based on the advice of someone so totally divorced from any understanding of practical realities.”

Well quite.


108 Comments

  1. 1
    London Cabbie says:

    I will bet Ed Balls £1,000 he never gets to be Chancellor.

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  2. 2
    Kebab Time says:

    A politician keeping his word? *shocked face*

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  3. 3
    Professor Parncutt says:

    Lawson is on ze list.

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  4. 4
    The Religion of AGW says:

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  5. 7
    UAE says:

    Bring back Presclott.

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    • 13
      Lard Pressclott of Beams, Bellies, Banjos, Bulimia, two Jags & Shags. says:

      They say that the Life of Pi lasts 2hrs 6mins. I can shorten that to 1.2 seconds.

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    • 84
      Not 'celeb', not 'bro', just fat says:

      Rumour is that Prezza may be on Celebrity Big Brother ….. BIG being the word for Prezza, natch.

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  6. 8
    Peter Hitchens says:

    Many of the comments on this blog seem to be pre-planned with little relevance to the article in question.

    For example: ‘Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him? More like Muhammad Piss Be Upon Him!!!! Am I right??????’

    ‘Hey guys look at my blog @KebabTime2′

    ‘Vile Gordon Brown stole my gold and my Crunchy Nut and all my pets’

    Most baffling. Keep up the good work and don’t drink too much gents

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  7. 11
    Earth's regular climate change says:

    Alaska has been cooling back down since 2000:

    http://www.livescience.com/25907-alaska-climate-pdo.html

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    • 42
      David Cameron says:

      Precisely. I told the Cabinet that those pictures of the lack of any Arctic ice cap was a NASA photoshop job as well. They believed me too when I said the NHS is safe in my hands. Oi Hunt why is my appointment 4 years when it was 14 weeks three years ago?

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    • 67
      Al Goracle says:

      Nooooooo, CO2 causes runaway climate warming, we’ve been telling you this for decades.
      CO2 causes warming, only it’s not been warming for fifteen years, because CO2 has cunningly learned to disguise it’s warming effects, by masking them.

      It really should be hotter than Hades now, if only clever old CO2 hadn’t outwitted us all by disguising itself.
      But it will be boiling hot I tell you, in, in, err, oh, umm, how about a hundred years from now, when everyone alive today, is dead?

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      • 93
        David Cameron says:

        That was the troubloe last year with the snow at Heathrow we didn’t use CO2 as it causes runway climate change…

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  8. 15
    nellnewman says:

    “has been based on the advice of someone so totally divorced from any understanding of practical realities.”

    Ah that’ll be militwit then. He was the environment minister under gordon running round the world predicting climate change was going to do us all in!!

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    • 48
      David Cameron says:

      Yes thank God we haven’t had any rain this Winter. The trees are so beautiful in Umbria.

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  9. 17
    James Delingpole says:

    AGW MAN MADE GLOBALWARMING IS A LIE AND ITS MADE UP BY SOCIALISTS AND GAYS AND ARGENTINIANS YOUR ALL BEING FOOOLED MY BROTHER WILL BACK ME UP HES CALLED DICK

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    • 23
      Sandra in Accounts says:

      Grammatical errors, spelling mistakes, poor diction & sentence formation – at least give Mr Delingpole his due – he is a fine writer.

      You on the other hand are a victim of New Labour’s education policy.

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      • 26
        James Delingpole says:

        I am a VERY fine writer who was educated at Malvern and Oxford with the FUTURE prime minister I’ll have you know.

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      • 104
        Honest View says:

        Possibly more literate than Guido. You concede victory, not defeat. You allow that the other chap has the victory. This I learnt, at primary school, when I was 10. You will no doubt suspect that it was at primary school some time ago.

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  10. 19
    Hadrian (Emp.) says:

    So take those rusting windmills down and lets drill.

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    • 25
      Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

      Sacrilege !!!

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      • 43
        Engineer says:

        Coal, gas, nuclear. Everything else is pie in the sky, a very minor contributor, horrendously expensive, or decades off commercial reality.

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        • 76
          Archer Karcher says:

          The only way wind and solar will ever be viable, is when we have found a way to make the wind blow and the sun shine, 24 hours a day. Until then, it is all make believe.

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  11. 21
    nellnewman says:

    I read this morning that the next climate change scare is that met office and beeb are saying the wet mild weather is here to stay permanently and it will prevent us from growing any fruit and veg and will destroy our lawns. ++++Laugh++++

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  12. 27
    Vulture Mulcher says:

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  13. 28
    keredybretsa says:

    Let him win Ollie!

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  14. 30
    h says:

    can we get our money back on those stupid windmills we bought from Germany? can we introduce some competition to the energy market/ can my 84 year old mum afford to heat her flat?

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    • 39
      David Cameron says:

      You want more competition in the energy market, which in turn will increase prices? Are you a socialist? The best way forwards, I feel, is the present system of cartelism. That way everyone is ripped orf.

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      • 56
        Dave Cam the Wind Farm Man says:

        Have I told you that I have a nice little earner?

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        • 92
          David Cameron says:

          No I am quite busy enough with Michael Green’s nice little earners. All profits going into the children’s trust funds so no tax to pay to Gid The Flid. It was actually GTF who told me how to do it…

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  15. 32
    Engineer says:

    One thing that utterly bemuses me about this. How can so much policy be made with so little examination of actual scientific knowledge (and, by extension, lack of knowledge)?

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    • 36
      Ed Dafty, LimpDim MP, Climate Change Chieftain says:

      It’s a great way of raising revenue.

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      • 45
        Engineer says:

        ….and peoples’ blood pressures.

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        • 78
          Elitist Lackey says:

          ‘It’s a great way of raising revenue.’

          It’s a great way of killing off the poor, sick and elderly too. All in a caring, compassionate and progressive way, of course.

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    • 59
      Copper Knickers says:

      Can you specify any policy from any of those groups of thieving scum at Westminster which are based on any sort of scientific evidence?

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      • 63
        David Cameron says:

        I can. Right to buy was proven as such. If you sell houses and don’t build any the you have a price crunch. What prize do I get? Another five years? Oh goody goody gumdrops

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      • 83
        Engineer says:

        Copper Knickers – it’s not just Westminster, it’s Brussels too. Under EU law we have to close down most of our coal-fired power stations in 2015. That’s about 40% of our generating capacity taken out in one fell swoop, with nothing to replace it.

        Stand by for electricity rationing – using smart meters, they can do it remotely by restricting the amount you’re allowed to consume at times of high demand. That, and shutting down energy-intensive industries.

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  16. 33
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I see cast iron Dave has told the Falkland islanders that they have his support 100%.

    If I were them I’d start packing their bags then.

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  17. 35
    The savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Hi gweed ….

    In the foto above is it to be construed that an ex chancellor is indulging in a victory fuck of an ex banker turned politico …. Or is the banker claiming his loser s. consolation prize “??

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  18. 37
    David Cameron says:

    I am amazed at how all the comments and stories in this blog are true..and then I woke up

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  19. 40
    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    Oliver Letwin? oh strewth.

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  20. 51
    Greenpiss says:

    Britain could still unilaterally cut its carbon footprint by maybe shipping in more people from abroad.

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    • 57
      David Cameron says:

      That’s my plan entirely. Another 1.5 mill immigrants in 5 years should do it. Theresa and her shoes are wrecking the Home Office database for illegals so things should be just enough for that carbon reduction

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      • 77
        Cleaner says:

        Not to mention the parquet floors.

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        • 94
          David Cameron says:

          When the fiasco at Heathrow was going down Summer of 2010 her shoes were getting caught in the rolling floor. Bloody nightmare she is sometimes. I blame Alistair Morgan myself..all that pressure

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  21. 55

    It was very good of the USA to hit its Kyoto target, the more especially as it never signed the treaty. :-)

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  22. 62
    Moussa Koussa Mark 3 says:

    Two millionaires settle silly little bet…

    They are behaving like Randolph and Mortimer Duke.

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  23. 64
    ROGER MYBUTT says:

    ““Oliver is one of the nicest people in politics, and one of the cleverest.”

    Yes so nice that he lets total strangers into his house in the middle of the night to errrr use the toilet ?
    Mmmmmmm !

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  24. 65
    ROGER MYBUTT says:

    Half the members of the institute of business directors think George Osborne is doing a crap job

    Only Half , what a set of fuckwits

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    • 100
      David Cameron says:

      I can tell you he is doing an excellent job. We have certain targets and we have to better than Labour at things. At the moment we are far better than Labour at fucking up the whole country rather than just England. I can’t wait tosee those disabled tears of joy when we take £58 a week of them. We all know that anyone that uses the NHS will vote Labour so best kill them off asap.

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  25. 73
    Moussa Koussa Mark 3 says:

    Oh yes Nigel the spazzer Lawson – errrr wasn’t he the bloke who preceded over the economy, and whose policies lead to the 1990 recession where inflation was 10% and 15% interest rates.

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  26. 81
    Prezza says:

    Me, I ‘ad a grand time wiv Keee Yoto, me. Loads of goodies, first lass travel, posh ‘otels an’ all on expenses.

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  27. 82
    Can he really have fathered the divine Nigella says:

    £100 ‘modest’?
    Jeeeeeeeeeez, you fuckwit.

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    • 88
      Mrs Beeton says:

      Don”t be unkind to her dad. She’ll drizzle all over your back burner if you’re not careful.

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  28. 87
    Hillary Clinton's Blood Clat says:

    Yeah man but Olieeever is a right on progressssive an he support da bum boys marrying innit.

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  29. 96
    Bitchy Lefty Liberal says:

    Hope he’s putting the old policy in the appropriate recycle bin, fascist.

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