January 3rd, 2013

Argies Invade, the Guardian

Nice of the Guardian to give the Argies premium advertising space this morning for the annual sabre rattling about the Falklands and a new territorial claim to Queen Elizabeth Land in Antarctica.

It’s one thing simply publishing the rant in their letters page, however they have given Christina Fernandez de Kirchner nearly half a page as well as a follow up article bigging up “the populist president’s” “blistering” letter that “acidly” slams colonialism. They even excitedly report the element of surprise of the advert.

As if it was an invasion…


  1. 1
    PK says:

    simple : Time for the Govt to start publishing all p/s jobs on line.. and take away the ad. revs from the Guardian..

  2. 2
    Guardianitas R Traitors says:

    That’s the Polly mentality for you. Anti Britain, pro federal Europe.

  3. 3
    Hargaret Modge, Labour MP and Hypocritical serial long term aggressive Tax Avoider + expenses thief says:

    Agreed but the lefty labour wonks in the ‘uncivil non service’ will NEVER allow that to happen.

  4. 4
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Time for Christina Fernandez de Kirchner to reflect on the role of Margaret Thatcher in the restoration of democracy in Argentina.

  5. 5
    Hargaret Modge, Labour MP and Hypocritical serial long term aggressive Tax Avoider + expenses thief says:

    Dear Polly – all property is theft so please give up six of your houses.

  6. 6
    Owen Jones Q.C. says:

    Anyone naming the 53-year-old man arrested as part of Operation Yewtree is committing libel. Hope they can afford to pay any legal costs.

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    VoteUkip says:

    Time for Cameron to send her the message ‘Go f**k yourself’.

    The Argies have as much right to the Falklands as we have to the USA.

  8. 8
    VoteUkip says:

    Nick, nick.

  9. 9

    Always remember the subjunctive mood, a very powerful tool for emphasis:

    As if it were an invasion.

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    nellnewman says:

    As with all argentinian leaders before her, christina whatsisname is a failed economist leading her country into a fiscal black hole. In order to deflect her electorate’s attention away from her gross incompetence she indulges in high profile sabre rattling.

    The fact that the graudian enthuses about her is no surprise at all. Their reputation for supporting incompetent leaders with failed economic policies aka gordon, precedes them.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    The Falkland Islands! Of all the sacred cows of the time in office of The Rt.Hon and Noble Lady this is the most sacred.

    Probably the only one that has stood the test time.

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    Hargaret Modge, Labour MP and Hypocritical serial long term aggressive Tax Avoider + expenses thief says:

    Yes land theft by collonialists can be a bitch. May I suggest Kristine report herself to the nearest Aztec representative then shove off back to her native Spain.

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    Big Chief Eye-spy (Hypocrisy) says:

    Perhaps Kirchner and the Argentinians could show their anti-colonialist credentials by handing Argentina back to the non-Spanish native population. I don’t think they managed to kill them off entirely.

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    Hargaret Modge, Labour MP and Hypocritical serial long term aggressive Tax Avoider + expenses thief says:

    May I take this opportunity to say letterbox gob is also a QC and a pain in the arse.

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    Anonymous says:

    The Guardian hates the British, judging by their dwindling circulation, the feeling is beginning to be reciprocated.

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    Raving Loon says:

    Reminds me of a small child pleading with their parents to have a cookie.

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    Pete ex-Tory says:

    Argentina knows that Cameron has cut the British military to the bone in order to give more away via DFID.

    If I were them I would be invading too – they will take the islands by force & there is not a damn thing we can do about it.

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    HMMM says:

    Don’t anybody mention the facts (certainly not the Guardian) that Maggies courageous act to re-take the Falklands for the Falkland islanders despite everybody saying is couldn’t be done, and which subsequently led to the down fall of Galtieri a fascist who murdered his own people. Argentinians should award her a medal for liberating them as well.

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    Sandra in Accounts says:

    With Cameron selling out our defence forces on the alter of an EU Army I just hope he has the sense to get a cast iron guarantee that the French will let us use their boats and planes to get the Falklands back.

  21. 21
    British Army says:

    Oh PLEEEEEASE, go on!

    We’ve only been preparing for the last 30 years!

  22. 22
    W.W. says:

    Why are they committing libel?

    Surely Libel is when something is not true.


  23. 23
    Rab Butler says:

    Except that the Argentinian military is vastly more run down than ours and couldn’t find their way out of a wet paper bag.

  24. 24
    bergen says:

    Not so much reciprocated as entirely ignored.

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    Lord Snooty says:

    Lucky Cameron.

    At last, a war he can win.

    The Falklands were the making of Margaret.

    It is the war that just keeps giving!

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Like the argies, but Maradona was a total coke sniffing, well, maradonna.

    Hand of god to you english? – my spanish colonial arse! Ey Peter Shilton?

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    spanows says:

    I see Ban Ki Moon is copied. Don’t suppose DC is going to lose any sleep over it. Had she copied an organisation with a modicum of respect it may have been worrying.

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    nellnewman says:

    Old WW2 adage ‘ Never go to war with the french at your back’!!

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    Spineless Dave says:

    I think they just need a big hug, m’kay?

  30. 30

    Same script, different age – with all the faded actors playing their dreary predictable parts…

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    Gargoyle says:

    Surely 1933-45 Germany would be more appropriate?

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    T. P. Fuller says:

    You beat me to it.

    Kirchner is a perfect specimen of the loathsome politician at work: find some issue or other (preferably involving outsiders, i.e. The Other) that will (a) divert attention from the bollocks you are making of running your own tin-pot country and (b) whip up nationalist fervour to unify the proles and suppress the power of the opposition.

    Also, I suspect her minge smells of fish.

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Compared to the Brit Army, Argies one is like the boy scouts.

  34. 34

    You jest of course…

    The same France that once put its aircraft carrier to sea without any planes on board – as a sort of cuddly threat?

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    I thought we were in a fiscal black hole. As for sabre rattling it gives Mr Cameron a chance to rattle his sabre back. Goes down well with Little Englanders as the mere mention of The Falklands makes their blood boil more than The EU, immigration and gay marriage combined!

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    Legal Eagle says:

    No – Libel doesn’t mean not true.

    In this case though you are likely breaking an injunction, and if he is not charged could be imputing wrongdoing / defamation of character.

    Whoever he is, innocent until proven guilty.

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    Herman Von Rompuy. says:

    Let us get one thing straight. Euro forces, will not, I repeat will not be used against the Argentine.

    The state of Britain is under my control. Meester Cameron will do as he is told.

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    piss orf – only lefties in the armed forces. Your twonks sit on their arses, talking shite, thinking how to spend their allowances from their grannies.

    JEEEZUZ – you tories really make me want to boak.

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    confused of barking says:

    the Falklands was about the only war of the last 50 years worth fighting, the only shame was it’s victory saved Thatcher.

    the Bennys don’t want to be Argentinian, simple as that.

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    HMMM says:

    The truth will out :-)

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    Chalky White says:

    Morning righties! Still trying to distance yourself from Maggie acolyte Jim Nick Nicked Davidson?

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    nellnewman says:

    You do the Boy Scouts a gross disservice.

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    But justification is still the best defence against libel.

    Tell me if that is not still so?

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    This is a serious comment says:

    It’s high time for a formal boycott of Argentinian goods. If the government lacks the spine to do this officially (what’s Argentina going to do in retaliation – boycott the aid we give them?), then we can all do our part by refusing to buy Argentinian products.

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    That’s what you call him? ;-)

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Who the fuck are you when you are at home?

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    Special Forces says:

    And how are they going to invade? Given that the Islands are protected from the air by anti aircraft missiles and from the sea by hunter killer nuclear submarines?

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Distance? Hello sonny – I’m baaack!

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    Special Forces says:

    And how are they going to invade? Given that the Islands are protected from the air by anti aircraft missiles and from the sea by hunter killer nuclear submarines?

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    Mrs Gould was a national hero says:

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    HMMM says:

    The cuisine was excellent though.

  52. 52
    Liebour Tactics Watch says:

    Is this honestly a fair and objective way to describe Jim Davidson:

    ‘He is a Tory, a staunch racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, tax avoiding, masonic Tory.’

    – As read on: http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/6-facts-about-jim-davidson/

    Now, why is Tory mentioned twice ?

    I think the author may have been influenced by media reports, rather than having a particularly big chip against the Tory party, which goes to show just how efficient many are when it comes to repeating this bilge.

    Have a feeling that this is how the left will be spinning some of these – it isn’t about the accusations, but all to do with ad hominem and prejudicial character attacks, and continual drawing attention to the Tory party.

    If this is not to be a re-run of the Neil Hamilton fiasco, somebody needs to get a grip fast.

  53. 53
    Jimbo So-vile writes Maggie says:

    My girl patients love you. I do too! Sir Jimmy OBE xxx

  54. 54
    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    oh pants – brazillian corned beef again. It’s shite – prefer pampas arigies frey bentos.

  55. 55
    Our diplomatic correspondent says:

    I refer the honourable lady to the response given by Baroness Thatcher in 1982 – “come on over here if you think you’re hard enough”.

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    Sarah says:

    Preparing what? 4 unserviceable Typhoons & SA80’s that jam?

    Demoralised troops facing redundancy?

    Endless Defence cutbacks?

    Ready? What a joker you are – the Falklands are already lost – even a tinpot regime like Argentina knows it – & David Cameron is to blame for the conflict to come.

    He cut defence to give the money to the EU and DFiD.

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    Don't try and rewrite history says:

    Maybe because he attended Tory conferences, made speeches and spoke regularly about how much he loved Thatcher?

  58. 58
    A German from zat era says:

    On ze contrary, a number off us vent ze other way, from Deutschland to South America.

  59. 59
    Sid the Sexist says:

    Ah the stink of the ocean. What did they smell of before women swam in them?

  60. 60
    Chavez says:

    Yeah but Venezuelan paratroppers will fight with our Argentininian brothers shoulder to shoulder this time – and there are 100,000 of us under arms.

    Malvina’s will be returned to the rightful owners.

    Viva la revolucion

  61. 61

    I hear the engineer was a Noilly Prat…

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    it was turning away, I say, it was turning away. I say again, it was turning away – can’t you hear, it was turning away.

    OOPS, sorry Maggie, turning towards the Falklands of course. We believe you love, not.

  63. 63
    Owen jones says:

    so if the Falklands was invadad would our wondrous friends from the EU support us?

  64. 64
    HMMM says:

    I couldn’t possibly say, ask Silent Bob.

  65. 65
    Sink this if you dare says:

    They can use the max embarrassment tactic. Fill an old ferry up with Argy women and Children invite all the lefty press to come too and sail it into port Stanley.

  66. 66
    Wing Commander Farage (DSO) says:

    Now just remind me Herman. How many votes did you get when you won the democratic election to get the job?

  67. 67
    Some good news says:

    Senior P*kistani militant leader Mullah Nazir is killed by a US drone strike in the tribal area of north-western P*kistan, local security officials say.

  68. 68
    If only... says:

    Personally, I’m boycotting anything made in China. That probably explains why I’m stark naked, living in an empty shell and posted this comment by carrier pigeon.

  69. 69
    Political correctness is everything says:

    We’re supposed to call them stillies now (They are still Bennys).

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    taffy hard to swallow occurance, deciding whether cannon fodder or not,

  71. 71
    Tom Catesby says:

    I understand a referendum on the future of the falklands is about due accordint to latest news. A resounding result by the Falkland Islanders in favour of remaining british subjects seemsvery likely. That would appear to resolve the matter. Unless of course anybody feels like another boat ride down to Port Stanley?

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    HMMM says:

    Bombe Surprise.

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    gramma says:

    Bring Argentina into any conversation and it always gets Messi.

  74. 74
    The voice of Primrose Hill says:

    I am the president of All the states in Europe. I also have my letters to my British people published in the socialist Guardian newspaper.

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    Toby G says:

    Do you know ANYTHING about the current defence deployment in FI?

    It seems from your post you know next to nothing about the subjects you mentioned either, even for someone like me who only reads up in interest knows that the SA80 A2 works fine and the A1 only had problems in the desert, the FI is in slightly different environment methinks.

    Unserviceable, yes thats right, we stationed aircraft worth billions out there without means to service them.

    dear god you kippers are right frothing loons when it comes to defence aren’t you, in fact… you’re even that when it comes to everything else politically.

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    oops, sorry Bill, 41 Sqn even. Memory fades,

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Princess Louise of Kensington squadron, at that.

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    Neddy Seagoon says:

    FOI the SA80 has been fixed and now goes bang when it’s supposed too, although it is realised that we need to revert to a larger calibre personal weapon and these are being introduced.

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    Toby G says:

    we won’t need to, Anything sent to capture the airport would be shot down/sunk before they got within 50miles.

    See the thinpinstripedline blog heading – the Reality of capturing the falklands

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    Liebour Tactics Watch says:

    Yes, but this falls into the category of foster parents being taken in by Social Services because they decided to become members of a particular political party.

    The attention drawn to political affiliation, especially given that this guy was never an elected representative, is hardly relevant at all and I think could rightly be described as salacious detail.

    Hardly re-writing history (unless his wiki entry etc. has been updated), this is looking like an atypical Labour style smear to take advantage an unfortunate situation.

    Apparently the allegations brought against him have nothing to do with children either.

    The other name is out.

    The one problem with running big government and state broadcasters etc. is that the probability of employing deviants and criminals does increase somewhat. Placing these types under a broad umbrella where they can cover each other and subvert / corrupt the organization is perhaps what is the true reason why the statist economic models fail.

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    Toby G says:

    The rule of thumb is that an assault against well dug in and defended troops, particularly well motivated ones, with reasonable supplies, is that it requires a ratio of 3-1 attackers to defenders to be certain of success. Assuming a garrison of 1500, this means that Argentina would need to move sufficient troops to land 4500 troops on the ground to conduct the attack. More troops would be needed to provide support, and logistical work. Let’s assume 5500 troops are needed to be certain of putting the attack force together.

    Firstly, the Argentine navy doesn’t have the ability to conduct an amphibious operation carrying 5500 troops. In fact, very few navies do. Even the Royal Navy, arguably one of the worlds more potent amphibious forces, would struggle to deliver more than 1500 personnel in its current structure. To successfully land the troops, supplies and equipment needed to crack MPA in a conventional assault, Argentina would need to be build the world’s second largest amphibious force, develop the doctrine and training required to ensure that they could land successfully, and then ensure that their troops are capable of doing so without messing the plan up. These troops are then required to land, march a significant distance to the objective and conduct an assault against a well dug in force which is likely to expecting them. Significantly, this force will have got a reasonable amount of operational experience, compared to an Argentine force which hasn’t seen action for 30 years. The Argentines are expected to do this while maintaining complete surprise, as if the reinforcement plan starts, and more UK troops are flown in, then they go from 3-1 ratio, to likely 1-1, or worse. Oh, all the while, Argentina needs to maintain the element of complete surprise while building up, training and delivering this invasion force to the Islands.

    Hat tip Jim30/SirH

  82. 82
    Butch Dave says:

    the good news keeps on coming!

    ‘On an output per hour basis, UK labour productivity fell by 0.2 per cent in the third quarter of 2012. Market sector productivity fell by 0.6 per cent on this basis, to its lowest level since 2005.

    Output per hour fell by 0.9 per cent in manufacturing and by 1.2 per cent in the broader production sector.

    Whole economy unit labour costs were 3.3 per cent higher than a year earlier. Manufacturing unit wage costs were 6.2 per cent higher than a year earlier.’

    – ONS.

    To kid the thick Plebs the economy’s recovering we’re stuffing the unemployed into noddy jobs, driving UK productivity down to African levels, and unit wage costs through the roof!

    Like the bankers, Gideon will get a bonus for such excellent work in destroying the UK’s real economy!

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    Kirchner=Useless says:

    Argentina’s economy is going tits up and even Kirchner with her botox and silicone can’t make the GDP more pert. She’s reduced to conducting foreign policy in press adverts.

    Worse, she’s picked The Guarduan and its a tiny readership so nobody will even notice.

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Said in previous blog thread, are us like North Korea preventing argies from coming to live in the Falklands?

    Quite ironic, considering. Hate remote nationalism. That is where adolf in Osterreich started off.

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    Operation Crossbow says:

    Kirchner has a face like the shit I just did. As for the Guardian when is Pickles going to stop all those public sector jobs being advertised in that rag?

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    Real Politic says:

    This letter is very easy to deal with: Ignore it – it means nothing.

    The Grauniad on the other hand: It is every right minded persons patriotic duty to not contribute towards this organization henceforth (as has been the case for a while now).

    Any lefty ‘emotional support’ proffered to Kirchner’s expressed sentiment is very clear evidence of severe mental illness.

    One should consider having such people sectioned.

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    Silent Bob says:

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    Get real says:

    It was there, it was a battleship, it had Argentinian naval personnel on it. Countries shouldn’t start wars of they can’t take the consequences. End of.

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    HMMM says:

    Facts; the Argentinian navy was conducting a pincer movement with two forces of war ships (recently released classified information) at a time when we had 5,000 troops at sea on cruise liners, so can Guardian bed wetters please stop promoting the sinking of the Belgrano as some kind of war crime?.

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    nellnewman says:

    The biggest mystery of this advert in the graudian is why have they placed it in a declining British paper where few people will see it?

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    Neddy Seagoon says:

    Sink cruiser, aircraft carrier turns round and does not venture out again.

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    Bluto says:

    Still trolling on behalf of the New New Labour Party? There might be righties here but most of them speak for themselves and are not shills for the reds peddling scripted twaddle and stupid You Tube feeds.

    Try an argument instead of harassment.

    Oh, of course, that requires a brain and an absence of loathesome evil intent.

    Now piss off.

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    minor details pal, put out by those tory puppets on a string, generally known as the OBR.

    OBR? ha ha ha, what a load of tory smoke and mirrors that load of shite turned out to be, ey? Fucking waste of office space.

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    Owen Jones says:

    Can we stop obese MPs from collecting their food allowance and from eating tax payer subsidised food in the House of Commons?

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    Taxfodder says:

    You have to LOL at the media cherry picking news, funny how Syria and misc atrocities commonly feature, yet the troubles in Bahrain and the intensifying crackdown on protesters seems to have escaped the news…

    Clearly protesters against the Monarchy in Bahrain are nothing but smelly terrorists and should be horse whipped…shooting is too good for them but we will give it a go…

    Still…..all in it together.

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    ATOS says:

    Just keep sending the billions and we’ll make up the ‘jobs’.

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    Bluto says:

    This is all part of a deliberate strategy and reeks of Tom Watson. It’s the same old gang that sponsored McBride.

    Smear instead of political argument.

    And everywhere Labour trolls commenting on any perceived right wing blogs, generally harassing and causing mischief. They are poison.

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    HMMM says:

    Thanks, that’s what I thought.

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    Lost in Clacton says:

    An attack upon the UK is an attack upon the EU so please sends us troops and an aircraft carrier as back up.

    And beware too of Spaniards in Spain .

    Long live Gibraltar.

    Long live the Queen

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    Ron Dennis says:

    Fuck off! Bahrain owns McLaren and all the plebs think we’re British.

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    Real Politic says:

    The oil rights have been carved up between UK / Indian venture.

    If the Argentine’s tried taking it back, even legally, they would not get anywhere.

    Indian navy alongside Royal navy is protecting those waters now, and the Argentine’s know it.

    They have messed up their economy again, are irritated that they do not control Antarctica (justifiably so in some respects), but they put themselves on the wrong side of history and that is where they shall stay.

    Unless of course they can win the Islands back.

    They have thrown a lot of money into defense (partly the reason why they have screwed their economy up again since they finished paying their bailout bonds off from last time…) but were not counting on the change in strategic balance introduced by the oil prospecting which has been going on in that area.

    The islanders should have a referendum, and the outcome of that is known.

    But under no circumstances can the Falklands be made independent, nor returned to Argentina.

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    Guardian reading trendy glassed fuck says:

    All the important people will notice. It’s very important we undermine this country and its indigenous culture at every opportunity.

    We won’t be happy until this island is an offshore territory of the EU, populated entirely with coffee coloured peasants.

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Argies economy has been going tits up and down forever. But they are in a better situation thn they were about twelve years ago – they were right in shit street then.

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    RK says:

    Perhaps the kindness of the newspaper itself to the President of Argentina will be followed up by the Guardian group’s tax-avoidance consultancy giving some handy tips to Argentine politicians.

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    Abdel from Tooting says:

    If we go to war again then I can guarantee that serving members of the UK Armed Forces will get free chips with their kebabs when they visit my takeaway.

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    Anonymous says:

    S e a men?

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Yes, condemned Merseyside to 15 years of hell. Or it would have been hell if we hadn’t learned how to fend for ourselves and milk the system for all it was worth.

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    Lost in Clacton says:

    What has any of this got to do with the Indians ?

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    @# says:

    Will no one mention the OIL?

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    Just don't know what to do with myself says:

    So with our people shutting down in Afghanistan next year and returning home, is this the next fixture another war with Argentina, if it is we can expect f’all from our so called European partners, yet our politicians will still have their heads up the arses of these EU dictators, 1 step forward 20 back.

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    Silent Ted says:
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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Fray Bentos is in Uruguay.

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    Fucking arabs own half of west London at least. Can’t get at the spuds in harrods for burkas.

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    Chalky White says:

    Oh dear, chuckles. You make it too easy.

    1. I hate Labour with a passion. Blair and Brown are two of the worst PMs this country’s ever had. Blair is a war criminal and congenital liar.

    2. Your indignation would carry a bit more weight if it wasn’t for the fact that you and your buds make political capital out of anyone who’s even mildy to the left of Thatcher. Please don’t pretend you wouldn’t be having a field day if it was a Mark Thomas or a Frankie Boyle who was in the headlines right now.

    3. Calling what I posted harassment ironically makes you sound like one of those loony lefties who say asking a female colleague if she had a good weekend is tantamount to sexual harassment.

    4. “An absence of loathesome evil intent” is rather amusing, because I can only assume you therefore have no problem with the thousands of comments that have been posted about “n*****s, darkies, co-ons” etc etc, or a particularly delightful comment posted not llong ago here and left up by the mods which said “a woman is just a life support system for a c-unt”. I assume that’s not evil in your books. I just hope you don’t have a wife or daughter if that’s how you view women. Sorry, “wimmin”, as you and your pals like to call them. Run along now, try not to r*pe any “life support systems for c-unts” while you’re at it.

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    VoteUkip says:

    Which dickheads created the useless FSA that sat around doing f’all and encouraged the banks to take stupid risks like 110% mortgages, waved through by that cretin Gordon Brown?

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    trolls are tossers says:

    So let me understand. You defend News International for taking one political stance and accepting advertising from some very dubious sources because it is a commercial organisation (unlike, as is often pointed out, the BBC) – and you condemn the Guardian for the same reason. Of course, the lefties would do it vice versa. Just proves what a bunch of certifiable and incompetent hypocrites both you and the lefties are. The smell of bullshit would make anyone gag.

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    Great entertainment says:

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    I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly says:

    bolox to it, Sharpe and Harper, the oirish bog trotter – Sharpe’s words, not mine,

    Get up you tory feck

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    Tom Watson says:

    So the arrest of Jim Davidson has taken the total number of celebrities arrested over the Jimmy Saville scandal to nine. Coincidentally, this is also the average age of their victims.

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    Sir William says:

    Time for the European colonisers of Argentina to stop exploiting and marginalising the indigenous Native American underclass?

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    Molly trope says:

    Well put sir +100

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    Grrr says:

    Terrrorists are smelly, and should be whipped.

    Well said.

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    Long John Silver's parrot says:

    Cameron should send her a short message telling her to calm down.

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    trolls are tossers says:

    Absolutely. The USA is now, of course, rightfully owned by the Chinese who possess the vast majority of dollar denominated debt. I look forward to President Wank-I-Loon – although this may happen sooner than expected if the Tea Party candidate is known by his nickname.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    I like the way the government is prepared to stand up for the rights of a couple of thou Brits in the South Atlantic but the white British minority in Londistan can go to blazes. The Falklanders love being British as long as they don’t have to live here.

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    wycombewanderer says:

    The Guardian have taken the drag queen’s shilling!

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    VoteUkip says:

    Little Englanders hate fascists like Kirchner. The Guardian and Labour love them.

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    trolls are tossers says:

    True, but when using the justification defence the burden of proof is on the defendant (he who is accused of libel) to prove that the words used were true. This can be surprisingly difficult to establish to the satisfaction of a jury even in apparently straightforward cases.

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    Grrr says:

    Is Boak some kind of dance?

    And who gets an allowance from their grandmother?

    These and other questions remain.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Hasn’t all of it found so far to be pretty useless. They announce they have struck gold, the share price rises, it’s found to be of poor quality and the share price falls. Some people must be making loads of money even before they’ve produced enough to lubricate an a**hole!

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    Grrr says:

    The BBC is commercial – it takes money from the State to promote the State and attack Conservatives who don’t like State control.

    The Guardian also takes money from the State to support the State and attack those who want to be free of State control.

    Gag on that.

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    Rage says:

    Fitch ratings agency has just downgraded Argi to junk status

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    trolls are tossers says:

    May I suggest solving 2 problems in one go. Forcibly deport the inhabitants of Merseyside to the Falklands. Even they should find it difficult to cause mischief in the UK from there and Argentina will leave the Falklands alone for fear of a national hubcap shortage.

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    Hang The Basatrds says:

    Fucking traitors

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    Misterned says:

    The argies cannot even begin to invade. Just one of our ships which is currently stationed down there could take out there entire airforce.

    That said, all the Argies have to do is wait for the EU to take the seats of France and the UK on the UN Security Council and then they will be able to get the UN to hand over the Falklands to Argentina without a shot being fired.

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    trolls are tossers says:

    That is, of course, those who were not excused their crimes by the USA in order to work for NASA and the CIA.

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    Bluto says:

    1. Yes, I know the old “I hate Labour with a passion, Blair and Brown blah, blah…” trick of the current crop of Labour trolls. They are using that line everywhere. Some of them claim to be Tories or ex-Tories too.

    2. Twaddle.

    3. More twaddle.

    4. I do have a problem with that. It’s ignorant bile. “Loathesome evil intent” is my attribution to the current Labour online trolling strategy which you are part of. You can’t re-assign it.

    Now you run along, troll.

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    VoteUkip says:

    Oil? The snag is that most of the recent oil exploration has been negative, at least commercially. There will probably be no oil bonanza off the Falklands.

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    ed martin says:

    no – why should one have to ‘un-justify’ the allegations or (more often) insinuations of the playground bully, stuart kutner’s ‘great family of news of the world readers’ or the likes of roland freisler (hitler’s pet hangman)?

    Hitler, Lenin & Co, Mao all relied on tipping the balance of justification on to the accused’ then feeding them to the mob

    there are hints of this in today’s islamist extremism and in mr netanyahu’s antics

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    Molly trope says:

    Oh dear, Chukies play thing . You make it too easy.

    1. You hate ‘old Labour’ with a passion. Blair and Brown are two of the worst PMs this country’s ever had. Blair is a war criminal and congenital liar now not when you voted for him though? Eddie is nice though you think he is great ! !

    2. Your indignation would carry a bit more weight if it wasn’t for the fact that you and your buds make political capital out of anyone who’s even mildly to the right of Stalin Please don’t pretend you are not having a field day unlike if it was a Mark Thomas or a Frankie Boyle who was in the headlines right now.

    3. ironically your Attack of what Bluto posted makes you sound exactly like one of those loony lefties who say asking a female colleague if she had a good weekend is tantamount to sexual harassment.

    4. what is rather amusing, because I have no problem with the thousands of comments that have been posted about anyone I hate etc etc, but I will cherry pick one like ‘Cameron’s Baby’ a particularly delightful left batter posting not long ago here ”. I assume that’s not evil in your books. I just hope you don’t have a child that Dies if that’s how you view other humans Sorry, right wing scum , as you and your pals like to call them. Run along now, try not to buy any more Frankie Boyle DVDs [and you think this place is bad lol!!] again while you’re at it.

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    Grrr says:

    I fear this poor boy
    ‘I spend this searching my remote, says BBC breaky telly’

    Is suffering some kind of mental breakdown and is in need of help.

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    ed martin says:

    perhaps a grain of truth in all this angry froth – but – defence of what, and why?

    still no published defence review – to keep which mob of tabloid readers quiet?

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    ed martin says:

    and that’s central to Sra de Kirchner’s problem

    she’s broke – her party depends on mob support form the ‘urban not-very well-off’ whose prospects are dismal – as they always have been under peronism – and like our (fewer) political extremists, they can’t see their own folly

    incidentally we are broke too – should we reclaim calais?

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    Sandalista says:

    Sometimes I feel sorry for the Argentine people because they have been constantly been let down by their Government and other public “servants”. If the Falkland Islands had truly been a serious issue for the Argentine establishment they could have been in a very different position 30 years on. By 1975 Germany was back in the bosom of the international community and a friend of its former foes.
    A possible Argentine strategy could have been:
    1982-1992 Argentina distances itself from the actions of the Military Junta.
    1992-2002 Demonstrates that it is a good neighbour working for the common good.
    2002-2012 Not only a good neighbour but also a friend.
    Even if each 10 year phase was extended to 15 years, Argentina’s relationship with the FI would now be very different.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Liverpool and Everton would be probably end up playing against the likes of Boca Juniors and River Plate.

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    Senator Joe Mcarthy says:

    Have you ever been a member of the communist party?
    Have you ever been employed by the Guardian or the BBC?

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    ME. says:

    Argentina, shut up about the Falklands, or Invade again and we will kick you off again, but this time we LET the GURKHAS eat you.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    I can understand why. Under her watch they have introduced a minimum wage, legalised gay marriage and more or less given an amnesty to one million plus illegal immigrants mainly from Bolivia, Paraguay and Peru.

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    trolls are tossers says:

    Ah, now I understand. When at first you don’t succeed – reverse what you previously claimed and hope noone notices. That smell seems to be getting ever stronger…..

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    Sandalista says:

    I take it you have no knowledge of how ships actually work. Even the largest warship can change direction in a matter of minutes. The sinking took place 36 miles outside the Exclusion Zone which means that the Belgrano and its two escorts could have been within the Zone inside two hours and a direct threat to the Task Force.

    With regard to the Excluson Zone Wikipedia (I know) has:

    On the 12 April 1982 Britain declared a Maritime Exclusion Zone of 200 miles around the Falkland Islands within which any Argentine warship or naval auxiliary entering the MEZ could have been attacked by British nuclear-powered submarines (SSN).
    On 23 April, the British Government clarified that any Argentine ship or aircraft that was considered to pose a threat to British forces would be attacked in a message that was passed via the Swiss Embassy in Buenos Aires to the Argentine government.
    On 30 April this was upgraded to a Total Exclusion Zone within which any sea vessel or aircraft from any country entering the zone may have been fired upon without further warning.
    Exclusion zones are historically declared for the benefit of neutral vessels; during war, under international law, the heading and location of a belligerent naval vessel has no bearing on its status

    But hey, don’t let your hatred of Maggie get in the way of the realities of war.

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    trolls are tossers says:

    I will not hear a word said against Argentinian football – they gave us Claudio Yacob for free and he’s worth £10m now.

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    Sandalista says:

    Funny how Labour goes all quiet on Maxwell.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    We still wouldn’t know much about them and most other Latin American countries. They know everything about us. At the height of the phone hacking scandal I checked out if it was news abroad by reading the websites of various famous papers around the world. Needless to say the Buenos Aires ones had front page headlines like “Brooks Resigns”, “Brooks Arrested” and Coulson this and Coulson that.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:


    Been back and fore near there like a yo-yo, but that is life. Live it you nonse, feel it.

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    Sir William says:

    Nobody can measure ‘productivity’ to that degree of accuracy. Statisticians shouldn’t pretend that they can.

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    Robin Friday says:

    Not only the Argentine Navy but a single Type 45 destroyer could take out the entire airforces of South America combined. In fact it’s so powerful, when it was in a training exercise with teh US Navy they were asked to back off a bit by the US as they were making it too difficult for them! There is no way the Argies would stand a chance against one of those.

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    Rage says:

    Naah go down the pub wait for the spring flowers to bloom much more satisfying

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    to spew – english slang search it, but it is scottish english, I believe

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    Rage says:

    After a few pints might be a good idea to invade across the Eng Ch they have a lot of nuclear power plants we could use to our adv.

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    No wonder Argentina is broke then.

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    Misterned says:

    At least he was not arrested for kiddy fiddling. He was arrested and bailed in relation to sexual “assaults” on adult women. Most likely a bit of harmless groping of some women who later see a cash payout coming their way.

    He is not accused of what Saville was accused of, and although labour supporters do not like to be reminded, Saville was a big fan and friend, of Blair too!

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    granny paid for your school fees, didn’t she?

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    Chalky White says:

    2. Twaddle.

    Yes, very awkward to be reminded of the point scoring you and your pals do every day on the most tenuous of bases.

    3. More twaddle.

    In that case, you must be a very sensitive soul to call what I posted harassment.

    4. Did you post a rant about it? Course not.

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    Tony Bliar 33° Royal Arch Freemason (Grand Inspector General) says:

    I am not a war criminal. I was blackmailed by George W Bush to provide troops for invading Iraq. The CIA had documentation and proof from Operation Ore that many senior Labour politicians in my Government were nonces. I therefore had no choice, invade Iraq and issue a ‘D’ notice on Operation Ore. If I had not done this George W would have spilled the beans on my Ministers and my Government would have fallen.
    The choice was a war, or protect senior Labour Nonces, what would anyone have done in such a situation?

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    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    Extremely well put Ted. Boaz.

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    Misterned says:

    Sad, but true

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    HRH P Charles says:

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    Grrr says:

    Does anyone else get the feeling that there’s one guy who has logged on under 3 or 4 differnt names who keeps posting the same idioitic messages – usually full of swear words, Leftist rants and abuse.

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    Good. Got any references?

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    aboot tap then loove

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    Grrr says:

    Actuailly it was the war with communist Unions that was the making of Margret – but why let history get in the way of a hate.

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    Chalky White says:

    I see you view copying as the best way to flatter someone, so thank you. Wouldn’t want you to actually expend any brain matter on posting an original comment in response.

    1. Never voted for Blair or Brown. Miliband is a prick. But your friend Rupert had no problem being best friends with Blair and Brown for about 12 years. I guess that makes Rupe a socialist. Only using your delightful logic, big man.

    2. Actually, yes, I am having a field day, because it’s you wingnuts who always salivate whenever someone’s in the frame who’s found to have said something slightly critical of Thatcher or the Tories and subsequently call them leftie c-unts. You just don’t like it when it’s the other way round.

    3. On this, I think your comprehension skills are a bit out of whack. Either that or you’re too fucking thick and desperately came up with something which makes no sense, as I wasn’t attacking your friend Bluto, I was responding to his response to my original post, and I didn’t accuse him of harassment.

    4. You mean like all the comments mocking Brown’s kid for being Down’s Syndrome? Or the comments saying the teenagers murdered by your friend Breivik got what they deserved? Or jokes about the woman gang r*ped on the bus in India? Or the jokes about the child dying of cancer whose mother has been to court? Or the jokes about wishing AIDS on people who happen to be gay (that would include many Tories still in the closet, incidentally). And yes, I’m a fan of Frankie Boyle. Well done.

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    Grrr says:

    Your asking the Left to behave responsibly, act reasonably and not wallow in self-pity, hate, grievence and resentment.

    Come on man – you can’t have started drinking already.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    the only sea I saw (and smelled) was a see-saw sea, with you riding on it. Lie down, lie easy, let me shipwreck, in your thighs.

    DT UMW

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    Independent England says:

    I doubt any other paper would take it. As for the Guardian. Bet they wouldn’t accept an ad from an English nationalist group. What a load of fascists they are!

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    Observer says:

    SHOCK HORROR: 19th Century colonial power accused of 19th Century colonialism.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    ok, the brownies then…

    oh fuck – WIMMIN!

    no Brown Owl, I was only joking…

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    stop talking a load of Fangio

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    Red Egg Millitit... says:

    When it is going tits up in Argentina what better way to create a smokescreen than bring up the Falklands situation.

    Best form of defence is attack, nuke the b*stards now :)

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    Ryan says:

    Lots of Poles washing cars for a few quid = low productivity figures.

    We are now living in an Alice in woderlnd economy with Alice in Woderland statistics to match

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    so chalky, we agree to disagree.

    i’m all for. ahem!, coloureds to have their own views. Wot makes the world interesting. You might have big cocks, but we have sexier lips, if you have not noticed. Oh dear, upstairs lips I meant…..

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    Read what I have to say @http://bluecollartories.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/the-falklands/

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    Jerf says:

    What a surprise, the Guardian is shit-stirring again and no doubt the BBC will follow with all guns blazing.

    As for Christina Fernandez de Kirchner, she’s so ugly she needs to get off her fucking face.

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    Wally Wombat says:

    A desperate whore doesn’t choose her customers.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    get it’s beef for cans from the argentinian pampas, you fucking ignorant cretin tool numbnuts.

    What do they teach in schools these days, ey? How to fucking talk stupid?

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    Ryan says:

    This is the utter joy of it, and why hardly anybody sane reads the Guardian. They just can’t see the laughable hypocrisy of Kirchner. A descendent of the world’s worst colonialists denouncing a bunch of islanders for being colonailists. You couldn’t make this stuff up – it’s straight out of Monty Python.

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    Fact Hunt says:

    The best chance the Argies have of retaking the Falklands is currently resident in number 10. Can you imagine the spineless, dithering twat having the gonads if push came to shove?

    As for the military option, not a prayer. 4 Typhoons, a couple of ships, a nuclear tube and more anti aircraft missiles than you can throw a stick at. Chavez’s paratroops? Unless they plan to hang glide they’ll have to use transport planes.

    Maybe the botoxed dago bint isn’t as daft as we think she is?

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    Ryan says:

    Well I’m just waiting for Kirchner to start singing, because the show ain’t over until she does.

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    Ryan says:

    The usual left-wing approach of attempting to build a political majority by appeasing minorities. The self-same approach that undermined Labour’s core vote in the last election, and dooming Labour to long-term political irrelevance where the only hope of getting themselves elected again will be to find someone within their ranks that can somehow give the impression that he spends every day reading the Daily Mail.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    yah yah yah. Minor details and fanny bullshite tory talk again from the Carlton Club, as if us provincial Brits were born yesterday.

    Fuck right orf, basically.

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    Ryan says:

    Not to mention the fact that since Argentina is still in default the US bondholders are actually impounding the Argentine navy and any other military hardware they can get their hands on when they have the chance. Kirchner is rattling a sabre that actually is on loan from Goldman Sachs. They’ve told her not to get any scratches on it.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    it is an old brit empire perversion, and the yanks, and others, are laughing at us. Laughing their cocks off they are.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    been on the whisky again, Thatch?

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    Mine d'Boggles says:

    The Argentinians used to have HMAS Melbourne, and the pilots were good. Probably scrapped now, or sold to the Chinese. Belgrano was also old – it was at Pearl Harbour on the big day (USS Phoenix) – but it was never intended for a fight at sea (I believe). It was heavily equipped with large sea-land missiles and was likely designed to keep the Chileans quiet. I have some nice photos of them both in Puerto Belgrano (how I got away with that is a mystery – but ignorance is bliss).

    Although I agree with the tenor of most comments about the Argentinian forces, the Skyhawk pilots did serious damage to our ships courtesy Exocet, but the conscript army was not up to it, even though they train in Antarctica contrary to the Treaty, and our lads are the best.

    Nobody likes a re-run, so my guess is also that the Kelpies can sleep well at night, until a limp-wristed government says “bye-bye”.

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    Hourtin La Plage, Gironde, with titties oot says:

    George after a dodgy curry/sushi,

    Hirohetos/Gahndis revenge.

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    Ryan says:

    Frankly I don’t give a shit where that ship was going. I would have happily seen the Beunos Airies blown up with tactical nukes.

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    kinnochio says:

    I’m tottally and utterly digusted – slippery self promoting Euro windbag that I am at least I didn’t give comfort to fascist South Americans. Still what can you expect at the Guardian whose prime columnist is a relative of blackshirt and progressive thinker Anrold Toynbee

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    Sandalista says:

    Argentina keeps asking the UK to abide by the UN Resolution made in 1965:

    UN Resolutions

    Resolution 2065 (XX)

    Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

    16 December 1965

    The General Assembly,

    Having examined the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),

    Taking into account the chapters of the reports of the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples relating to the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), and in particular the conclusions and recommendations adopted by the Committee with reference to that Territory,

    Considering that its resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960 was prompted by the cherished aim of bringing to an end everywhere colonialism in all its forms, one of which covers the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas),

    Noting the existence of a dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning sovereignty over the said Islands,

    1. Invites the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to proceed without delay with the negotiations recommended by the Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples with a view to finding a peaceful solution to the problem, bearing in mind the provisions and objectives of the Charter of the United Nations and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas);

    2. Requests the two Governments to report to the Special Committee and to the General Assembly at its twenty-first session on the results of the negotiations.

    Argentina does rather ignore the bit about the Islands’ population.

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    Yew Fat Tuat says:

    That makes two of them, then.

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    Central Office stooge says:

    State control? Once in government, either Party tries to extend State control.

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    Diplomatic skills have been handed from Father to Son – if not a forgery.

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    Bluto says:

    2. Not as awkward as dodging 1. Well?

    3. Not harassment of me, harassment of this website. Only a few people post feeds. Only a very few of those are relevant. No doubt orders from Labour Smear Ops HQ to clog up the site.

    4. Why do lefty stinkbags always think people should do what they say? If I don’t rant about racist commentators then I suppose that makes me racist too in the twisted lefty through the looking glass mad, weird world they inhabit (and want everyone else to inhabit too)? You can take your groupthink and shove it.

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    Socialism runs in the family then?

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    Windowlicker says:

    A courageous political decision. But not on a par with a VC at Goose Green.

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    Central Office stooge says:

    Apparently Adam Werrity will vouch for him.

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    dick dastardardly mp says:

    From recently released Government records in Ireland – an assessment of the Argentine Political class …. and written around the time of the Falklands War when the Irish were very much more on Argentina’s side

    “As a nation – if they are a nation, and that is part of the pathology – they are morbidly estranged from reality.

    “To attempt an exhaustive catalogue of the exotic zoology of serious emotional disorders from which the Argentines collectively suffer would require ample recourse to the early Viennese texts.

    “Behavioural aberrations of which they display advanced and frequently simultaneous symptoms include: paranoia, narcissism, aggression, delusions inter alia of grandeur, infantilism, hysteria, exhibitionism, extreme inferiority/superiority complexes, extravagant self-fantasies, selective amnesia, habitual projection of internal failures on to external agents. Among the few psychological disorders from which the Argentines as a people remain resolutely immune, one may number scrupulosity and compulsive guilt.”

    Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/argentines-were-branded-dangerous-16255060.html#ixzz2GuofKBQI

    The Irish Diplomat also opbserved that some commentators noted that despite many Argentinean having family roots in Sicily there was no Argentine mafia. In his assessment that was because the Mafia there was in Government. Strange the Gruinard didn’t pick up on this.

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    Rejoice at THAT news !!! says:

    “Dave” will be rubbing his hands in glee…a diverting little war in the South Atlantic…when he’s actually still got troops and assets available before his defence cuts kick in properly on station and beneath the waves on patrol in the area to actually bash the Argies for six and please the at present less than Tory-enthusiastic Daily mail Readership and divert them from his domestic troubles

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    Junior says:

    Phew. I thought it was something serious.

    “Blair too!” too what?

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    Admiral Leach says:

    Please be assured that despite the defence cuts there is a very capable defence strategy for the FI. The RAF has 12 further Typhoons with AWAC and tanker support that can deploy within 24 hours, the RN has destroyer lead surface group with a further 4 frigates to reinforce the standing naval presence along with 2 hunter killer subs. The RAF would also deploy Tornedo GR4s which in combination with the RN subs would give the British force commander a very powerful cruise missile capability with Tomahawks from the subs and Storm Shadow from the Tornedos. The Argentine air force does not have any fighter capable of taking on the Typhoon. The RN Type 45 destroyer would also make air attack very costly for the Argentinians. The Army garrison would also be reinforced with at least one battalion of infantry deployed within 48 hours.

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    Grrr says:

    I’m sorry for you.

    You sound like a very angry, miserable, bitter man/boy.

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    We;sh youtube spamming tosser says:

    Yep, the same mentally unhinged youtube addict.

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    Grrr says:

    The Tories do not extend State control.

    They shrink government, taxes and regulation.

    As they are doing now.

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    Admiral Leach says:

    Quite right, the only military option open to the Argentine would be a special forces raid, but this in itself would not capture the FI. It might however serve a political purpose but again I refer to my earlier post and argue that the current British forces are more than a match for anything the Argentine has at present. The rule of thumb is as soon as they upgrade their air force then start to expect trouble.

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    Grrr says:

    I have absolutely no idea what this means.

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    Grrr says:

    If she looses her job there are a few pubs in Soho that could use her in their drag acts.

    Though she is a bit ugly.

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    Grrr says:

    Or the BBC.

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    Hargaret Modge, Labour MP and Hypocritical serial long term aggressive Tax Avoider + expenses thief says:

    Plus we have our subs out there at the moment. Just ask General Belgrano how effective they can be…..but you’ll have to speak up a bit.

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    Chalky White says:

    I didn’t dodge 1 because you’re convinced I’m a Labour troll. Anything I say won’t shift you from that. But that’s the problem which you fail to understand because you’re thick: tribalism on both sides is intellectually and morally b*nkrupt. If someone on the left is exposed in a bad light, they try and distance themselves and shift the focus to the right In turn, on the right, they have a field day and use that one example to accuse anyone associated with that person of similar crimes – case in point, claiming the entirety of the BBC is a cesspit of child a*users because Savile worked there. Equally, if someone on the right is exposed in a bad light, they try and distance themselves and then claim that it’s repugnant for anyone to use the person’s political affiliation as a point scoring exercise.

    The sensible approach would be for both sides of the spectrum to have the basic sense and decency to say: yes, there are dodgy and downright nasty people on our side as there are on the other. But you’re all too tribal. Labour and the left in general ignore their crooks and perverts whilst yelling about the Tories and vice versa. How is that in any way an intelligent position to hold? You can’t bleat on about Davidson and Savile’s political affiliations being irrelevant and calling it smear tactics and then indulge in exactly the same tactic when someone you don’t like is revealed to be slimy.

    3. Harassing a website. That’s a new one. Are websites anthropomorphic now?

    4. Well, in exactly the same way anyone you dislike is made guilty by association if someone they may have once met or spoken to makes an offensive remark. Case in point: Kia Abdullah made vicious jokes on twitter about the deaths of schoolboys who had double-barrelled surnames. That was then taken to mean everyone who isn’t staunchly right wing and everyone who had ever written a CiF article was guilty of mocking the deaths. You’re hardly well placed to hurl accusations of groupthink when you and your pals do the exact same thing.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Not sure but I think Uruguay exports more beef these days than Argentina. I was taught at school that the Pampas also includes much of Uruguay and Rio Grande province in Brazil. Most of beef produced in Argentina is for home consumption and much cattle grazing land is being switched to growing Soy. I’ve been to an estancia near BA and was given meat dish after meat dish. The next morning I’ve never seen my sh*it that colour before or since!

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    Jimmy says:

    So you’d have turned the ad down on principle?

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    Owen Jones says:

    The Argie President will liberate the Falklands Islands from the evil regime of the British Imperialists.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Never heard of him!

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    Don't Pay the Telly Tax says:

    We would not have suffered the casualties we did at Goose Green if the BBC hadn’t pre-announced the raid.

    We should not provide financial support to an organisation that works against our national interest.

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    Ryan says:

    Are the Argies still throwing their political opponents out of aeroplanes at 30,000ft or have they given that up these days?

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    Jimmy says:

    Funny how they always fancy their chances when the tories are in.

    Still, the islanders will be relieved to hear their cast iron guarantee from Butch.

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    Ryan says:

    On the contrary. The beauty of the Falklands issue has always been that the radical left couldn’t bring themselves to support a British national interest even though the original war was brought about by a bunch of Mussolini following facists with a tendency to throw their opponents out of aeroplanes at great height and who doubtless would have found the British residents of the Falklands sufficiently embarrassing totheir course as to ensure they would receive the same treatment. It put the radical left way out there in the “so fucked up we’d support Stalin and Hitler at the same time if it meant we got our way because our enemy’s enemey is always our very best friend” region of the political landscape. It resulted in the radical left being so marginalised that only the aging remnants continue to cling to it, and every year a few more of them die off leaving the Guardian with ever fewer subscribers.

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    Ryan says:

    And Jimmy Saville liked armchairs too. What exactly does that say about Ikea?

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    h says:

    yeah if we had 20% unemployment our productivity per hour would be high. And if we had only one person working then it would be sky high.

    What you are saying is that no job is better than a Mac job. But why do you think htat?

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    Dave E Jones says:

    More than 30 years having passed, it is now a matter of public record that we had cracked the Argie ciphers and consequently knew almost as soon as the Argie captain that he had been ordered to attack. No further justification needed.

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    Owen Jones says:

    Yes they still are, especially useful idiots like me.

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    Admiral Leach says:

    See my earlier comments, the Skyhawk is no longer a credible attack aircraft and most if not all will have been retired by now. The advance of modern combat aircraft avionics is such that the Argentine air force is at least a whole generation behind (more likely two) these are the ‘black boxes’ you never see and that make the cost of modern combat aircraft so expensive. When the Falklands conflict took place there was no GPS, laser guided bombs had only just come into service with RAF, and the Exocet was in its first generation. Cruise missiles are now part of both the RN and RAF range of weapons and both services have benefited from the digital technology revolution in communications and sensors to direct and control such weapons. The skill and indeed bravery of the Argentine pilots is a fact but their tactics and weapons where only just viable in 1982 today they would be utter folly against 21st century weapon systems.

    As I say the key to real Argentine actions is when they upgrade their air force they have a long term plan so far thwarted by a lack of cash to purchase F16 fighters from Israel when these are retired from 2018-20 onwards. More recently there has been some talk of them purchasing Chinese fighters. If either becomes a reality it is at that point Britain would need to deploy a much larger fighter force to FI.

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    Pundit Too says:

    Read parts of the Gruniard yesterday mainly for the food articles, which are now going downhill.
    Unbelievable people live on their comments pages. They must be a very incestious lot as they all seem to know each other and give out Spoonerisms like crumbs to birds.

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    Pundit Too says:

    Late last year a US investment service recommended buying ranches and property in Argentina later this year. They stated the already failing economy will go totally tit up due to inflation and lack of foreign currency; and as such Kirchner will have no further place to hide.

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    Queen Margret of Denmark says:

    I did no such thing.

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    PR to Hugo Chavez tyrant in waiting says:

    Fortunately President Chavez is alive and well in a Cuban hospital where he has been for the last week recuperating from a heart and lung transplant operation, just in time for the elections.

  236. 236
    President Kirchner, Belle de Nuit. says:

    We will send in 100 Venezuelan Amazon beauties in skimpy uniforms to totally distract the defending troops; and then conduct a surprise night attack while the defenders are in lines awaiting satisfaction.

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    Pundit too too says:

    Give it up Margaret, and attend to your homeless in Barking

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    Pundit too too says:

    Good grief so Wilson did the whites in in Rhodesia did he? I was there so don’t lie.

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    2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

    I would love the Argentinians to try something with the Falkland Islands but they wont because they have not got the military muscle or the inclination to do so thats why Cameron wants to take the hardline with this self styled Eva Peron full of wind and piss,the Falklands are British and will remain so forever and no British politician would dare to compromise that so up your junta De Kirchener you diego cnut.

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    Bluto says:

    That’s very clever. Conservatives tend not to be tribal but the 6 to 1, half a dozen to the other act is exactly the same stunt pulled by Clegg. Lefties are tribal, no doubt about it. Their current online black ops are interesting but discernible simply because they all work from a tribal script, like you. The BBC is just a shithole full stop, a lefty shithole regardless of Saville. It needs clearing out because it is rotting from the inside with its foul leftist corruption and that cancer is infecting the population.

    The difference is that the Tories get blamed and vilified for their wrong un’s until the cows come home (thanks to the stinking BBC) whilst the teflon-coated left get let off, time and time again. Ask yourself hard why that is and drop the phoney neutral act.

    3. Websites can be harassed. We are not talking the leftofascist reinvention and legislation of “harassment” just to include their favoured minority victim groups but the original English meaning of the word – to harass – to irritate or torment persistently; to wear out; to exhaust; to impede and exhaust by repeated attacks. The very fact that you don’t understand the old meaning of the word but only the new reveals once again that you reek of left wing credentials, whatever you call yourself.

    4. Funny that for someone supposedly neutral your attempted smears by association are always aimed at the right, like your comments, desperate to make the right = racist smears stick. Groupthink only applies to the left. They mastered it, bottled it and make the public force drink the stuff on a daily basis so don’t come your tosh that the right are in any way similar. And no pals please. I am writing as an individual who absolutely detests the left.

    You triggered the BS and bogus radar a few times.

    Call me stupid, which is an insult, and I’ll call you a leftist, which ought to be.

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    Jamiesha says:

    Aye carumba thatsa lotta comments so I’ll reply to Monsieur (or Madame?) First:

    Shameless self promotion here, my article on Falklands and Kirchner’s letter:


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    Socialism = starvation says:

    The Falklands never belonged to Argentina, whereas the North American colonies did belong to the Crown before secession.

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    dick dastardardly mp says:

    David could do with a good winnable war defending the plucky sheep-shaggers against hot headed Colonial South American Despots. Better dispatch a few more plans and the Paras to dig in

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Unlike Eva Peron she can no longer shop at the Calle Florida branch of Harrods.

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    Chalky White says:

    Stupid was kind. You’re bonkers. You’re the archetypal wingnut who’s incapable of articulating any argument without resorting to drooling invective like “lefty shithole, leftofascist, minorities” and paranoid tantrums about there being a massive media conspiracy against the right, which, given that the Conservatives were in power not long ago for 18 consecutive years and that your friend Rupert owns a huge chunk of the media, just makes you look at best a whinger and at worst a paranoid lunatic.

    It’s your prerogative to hate whoever you like but don’t pretend it’s from any meaningful perspective. You hate anyone who isn’t completely and solidly aligned to your views, which judging from your preoccupation with “minority victim groups”, suggests out and out hatred of anyone non-white and non-right wing. This might come as a shock to you, so sit down, but it IS possible to be neither left wing nor right wing. The world is not divided into easy polar opposites. Most people who are sensible – not you – have some views which can be considered right wing and some views which can be considered left wing. For instance, I think the benefit culture is a disgrace, p*edophiles should never be released and terror suspects should be deported. Equally, I support gay rights, gay marriage and I don’t like racism and xenophobia. But in your worldview, anyone who disagrees with you on anything is by default a raging marxist lunatic who wants to teach 4 year olds the kama sutra. The very fact I support gay rights will, in your addled mind, cancel out any other views I hold and make me a Labour supporting socialist. And by framing your difference from me with bilge about “minorities”s, you inadvertently say that the right can and should be defined by hatred against those groups. Otherwise, why even mention it? Cat and bag.

    And incidentally, “to irritate or torment persistently; to wear out; to exhaust; to impede and exhaust by repeated attacks” (well done on learning copy & paste 101) is precisely the definition of harassment that has always been, which just compounds how unneccessary it was to have an insane rant about it being redefined for minorities – unless you can provide a specific example where it was misused, than I can only assume you’re referring to the cases of harassment that involved someone being sworn at, spat at, beaten up or stabbed to death because of their colour or sexuality.

    And I repeat that a website cannot be tormented and exhausted; I’d suggest you stop digging yourself ever deeper into the hole. You clearly meant initially that you personally felt harassed, and then switched it to the website which makes no sense, unless I was making comments about the site owners and administrators, in which case it WOULD be harassment. In a free board where people make a variety of comments about different topics, including the one you didn’t mind about women being life support systems for c-unts – not a nice thing to believe about your mother, Bluto; I say mother, because I don’t know if you have a wife, girlfriend or sisters, but even you would have had a mother – harassment cannot apply – what or who am I harassing by expressing my views, unless, like I said, I was attacking the owners.

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    Anonymous says:

    Aside from the fact that the population don’t want the Argies to be in charge, there’s also this to think about….

    Almost everyone in north and south america are descended from people who turned up in boats, enslaved/killed the native population, and stole their land.

    So if you follow the Argies’ logic going a little bit further back in time, then by rights the Argies should vacate their own country.

    How near/far do you go back in time before you draw the “ok, this is the “fair” point, let’s revert to how it was in year x” line?

    Draw that line far enough back in time and it means that only native Africans should own any land on the planet. Go back even further and it means we should give all the land/power to bacteria that are growing under rocks.

    There comes a point where you have to say “fuck me, this is just historic stuff that goes back to the dawn of time; let the people who are living there now decide their own fate”

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    2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

    As long as she dosnt come to binns or Joblings

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    fitzfitz says:

    … the BBC reads it …

  249. 249
    fitzfitz says:

    … you cannot exactly rely on grinning Obama in this …

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    Telegram for Mongo says:

    Lame ass comment. Keep taking the tabloids son.

  251. 251
    Telegram for Mongo says:

    “The Guardian hates the British”


    The Guardian hates the ENGLISH.

    There. Fixed that for you!

  252. 252
    Telegram for Mongo says:

    Thanks Toby G

  253. 253
    Telegram for Mongo says:

    Trolling tit!

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