December 30th, 2012

On the Dole Because He Didn’t Want to Get Up For 8:00 a.m.

HardworkingListen to this – it is going viral – the remarkable conversation with an unemployed caller to Julia Hartley-Brewer on LBC to discuss whether benefit cards are a good idea becomes a case study for welfare reform that makes the point more eloquently than any politician’s speech about strivers and shirkers. He revealed that he was recently offered a job, but didn’t want to have to get up at 8:00 in the morning…


615 Comments

  1. 1

    Sorry to nit pick but the poor lamb had to get to work for 8.00 am. Knocking off at 4.00 pm.

  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    FFS, that could be anyone saying anything – a wind up – A Tory, even, trying to make the case for more cuts – it means nothing. Even if it is genuine – a big if – one case does not mean you can make the same inferences about everyone claiming benefits.

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    False flag!

  4. 4
    192.168.0.1 says:

    Utter shit. My son-in-law works permanent nights. He wouldn’t want to get up at 8am.
    Silly season, Guido, or just clutching at straws?

  5. 5
    192.168.0.1 says:

    It gets the traffic stats up.
    Guido will have a column in the Daily Mail next.

  6. 6
    Gabi Coleman says:

    This is the a typical example of the sub culture scum that scurry in the black market gutter and claim benefit. He doesn’t want A job, he’s chosen a lifestyle of cash n dole M8i :-/i

  7. 7
    hank the cat says:

    He is not typical of people claiming benefits but he is typical of a large amount of people claiming benefits, for christ sake I know of people who have not worked for years even going so far as to having a large tattoo on the face so future employers will look at them and say no thanks

  8. 8
    Socialist Man & Sick-Note Boy says:

    This is just another Tory plant to try and discredit this country’s set of the finest ‘poor and needy’ and most highly trained ‘most vulnerable in society’ the Western world has ever produced.

    Instead of being proud of these achievements, as ever, the Tories try and drag everyone to the top of the pile to try to become as rich, independent and toffee-nosed as themselves.

    When oh when oh when (oh when) are they going to realise not everybody wants to be the same?

    Oh, hang on…
    *Exploding Noise*

  9. 9
    Run to the hills - 2013 is fast approaching says:

    I work at home, and I am up at five, even three – ok, maybe be an insomniac, had several jobs working nights, an it meant nothing to me – as if I am an old poacher by genetics. OOPS, perfect description of me..

  10. 10
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Now tell us something we don’t know.

  11. 11
    Bob Double Diamond Standard says:

    Well yes just one case and unwise to make policy on that alone – BUT probably does sum up attitude of many who slide in and out of low paid work. Income wise hardly much difference for them between working and not working especially when they do a bit of cash in hand on the side. So – make getting benefits harder, make work more rewarding?

  12. 12
    Barrie says:

    “There is no work out there” but he turned down a job AND he is doing cash-in-hand work!

    Maybe there should be a rule that benefits can be withdrawn just for bringing the benefits system into disrepute. Drunk, or scruffy, or anti-social behaviour like shooting your mouth off about there being no point working – no benefits.

  13. 13
    jmf says:

    But you utter tosser your son-in-law has already got a job, so what the phuck is your point

  14. 14
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    I see the Labour trolls are out in force today. It’s Sunday. Why don’t you lot take a day off!

  15. 15
    Anonymous says:

    Why are you repeatedly posting that? Very boring.

  16. 16
    The Frankfurt School says:

    Our plans for world domination are going very well.

  17. 17
    Barrie says:

    So your son-in-law has a job. So who is clutching at straws?

  18. 18

    The most telling part of this interview is not so much the ridiculous assertion that “8 o’clock is too early” but that there is “no point in working for low wages”. As long as you can be just as well off (or even better off) doing FA on benefits, people can’t be bothered to work. And this problem won’t be going away unless you are considerably worse off on benefits that you just have no option but to take any job that’s out there.

    Funny that people still keep banging on about immigrants “coming and taking our jobs”. Who would you employ if you had a business: Some Pole who is keen to work at 8am or 7am or the LBC caller who can’t be ar*ed generally and requests a cozy 930am start?

  19. 19
    Richard Evans says:

    If he’s working nights then he’s already up for 8am, twot

  20. 20
    Run to the hills - 2013 is fast approaching says:

    bit of ducking and diving, you know, love

  21. 21
    Mrs Entity says:

    This makes me so angry. A job is a job and lets be brutally honest most people would like to have their working day start when they’d find it more convenient, say 10am for working parents.

    Alas life isn’t like that & people have to work the hours set by their industry norms. There are workers who would rather be in bed at night instead of stacking shelves, saving lives, driving trucks, baking bread, arresting criminals, on guard duty awaiting ambush in Afghanistan! Etc

    The thing is the vast majority of people actually do work very hard, they get up & go to work or they get up and search for work. Only a small number are like this chap who seems to believe he has the right to choose if or when they bother to work.

    People like him should be forced to work for their benefits! Get the old treadmill going so it can produce ‘Green’ electricity – got to be better than wind farms. Just imagine how fit these folk would get & then they may just get a work ethic but if not then at least electricity will be cheaper lol!

  22. 22
    Tony Blair must be executed for treason says:

    Was that real or a wind-up?

  23. 23

    Of course his attitude isn’t the attitude of ALL people on benefits. But ask any employer in this country or anyone working for a Job Centre and they will tell you this is not an isolated case – far from it.

  24. 24
    Anonymous says:

    So now you accuse him of conspiracy anon?

  25. 25
    Richard Evans says:

    The answer is workfare, outside work picking up rubbish where people like this toerag are expected to turn up at 8am. Then a paid job stacking shelves etc will look far more enticing

  26. 26
    Jezzonimo says:

    This is not an isolated case by any means.
    These scum should have their benefits stopped – full stop.

  27. 27
    Nigel Proudfoot says:

    Introduce workfare then. Plenty of rubbish to be picked up alongside motorways

  28. 28
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I do not believe this is a small number of people, but I ask you this.

    If the government put as much effort into weeding out the people who can work but dont, as they do into fining us for, say, parking, we’ll all be a bloody sight better off!

  29. 29
    Tony Blair must be executed for treason says:

    Bring back the workhouse.

  30. 30
    Benny Fitz-Clements says:

    Wossa matta wiv yoo lot ??? Noo Liebore DELIBERATELY created their Client State to guarantee their re-elections

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8698033/New-Labours-toxic-legacy.html

  31. 31
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I agree.

  32. 32
    Anonymous says:

    That radio host was rather petulant for someone in her position. I mean radio host, can’t think of a more useless profession frankly. She should be paid minimum wage and be happy for it. I would prefer he replaced her in her job as the show would no doubt be more entertaining.

  33. 33
    Ex Tory Boy says:

    I thought Brown was bad and used to switch channels whenever his face hit the screen but now i find myself swearing at Cameron -his pronouncements are becoming unbearable. I believe that it his jolly good chapiness superficiality that gets me, his PR suavity/blandness,his inability to convince me that it is moral that we should be handing billions more in overseas aid or climate change etc. Adding to my Cameron biliousness would include his ill considered green/gay/minimum alcohol pricing etc agenda,his frequently poor judgement of people and his absolute inability to think strategically about all the major issues confronting Britain so that after 5 years of this dreadful Coalition we shall be looking at another Labour Government.

  34. 34
    jmf says:

    Sounds like he is good socialist to me

  35. 35
    Run to the hills - 2013 is fast approaching says:

    nine to five it should be fo all. And if anyone wants to use public transport, walk, and if anyone wants pubs and nighclubs, thirst, and if anyone wants an hospital, die. Sorted, ey?

  36. 36
  37. 37
    GSilver says:

    sad … you actually think anyone would need to pretend on air to be that lazy. I see them every day. The “I’m entitled” brigade who wouldnt see a single thing wrong with that idiots position!

  38. 38
    LibOrToryAn says:

    Funny, Labour supporters claim that this is a stitch up – the only stitch-ups I was aware of were against Lord McAlpine and Andrew Mitchell, by Labour organisations.

  39. 39
    anon c'unt says:

    don’t be an arsehole theres nothing made up about the conversation ..the wankers serious

  40. 40
    Anonymous says:

    In his next blog, Guido will be unveiling his modern classic ‘Darkest England and the way out’, ‘The sharer of my every ambition for the workfare of mankind’
    The progress of The Countryside Alliance in its work amongst the poor and
    lost of many lands(read north of Luton, Rwanda, and Zimbabwe) has compelled me to face the problems which are moreor less hopefully considered in the following pages.’
    It will however omit this line – No doubt it is good for men to climb unaided out of the whirlpool on to the rock of deliverance in the very presence of the temptations which have hitherto mastered them, and to maintain a footing there with the same billows of temptation washing over them. But, alas! with many this seems to be literally impossible.

  41. 41

    Did not want to get up at 08:00 in the morning?

    Sounds like Neo…

  42. 42
    Tony Blair says:

    I don’t get up for less than $500,000 that’s drenched in the blood of dead Iraqis.

  43. 43
    common attitude and has been for years says:

    don’t encourage the twat

  44. 44
    I want to know where this cunt lives says:

    I get up at 7am, you fucking lazy c-unt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why should my taxes pay for your cider, you lazy fucking c-unt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  45. 45
    Camoron says:

    I see Cameron has released a New Year’s Message…with that insincere, sleeves rooled up, determined face he pulls.
    I have one for him…
    Fuck off ballbag, your words mean nothing to me, you are an insincere twat, I dont trust anything you say, everything you have done has been underhand and unworthy of a Prime Minister.
    Go fuck yourself.
    Happy Hew Year

  46. 46
    Sarah,in a melodious yet deeply sad voice says:

    A GORDON for me
    A GORDON for me
    If ye nay a GORDON
    You nay he’s fae me.

  47. 47
    Albert Hall says:

    Being pedantic I thought that was what guido said, up for 8, not up by 8.

  48. 48
    the poor bloody tax-payer says:

    bbc caught a hero in scouse city a few years ago who couldn’t get a job because he ‘had a bad back’

    what did he spend his time doing? playing football of course

    again, a woman did the interview – works wonders some times!

  49. 49
    Gewyne says:

    We know of a family – couple living together both claim benefits.

    They claim

    Unemployment benefit each
    They have 2 free council houses (one they sub let)
    Child benefits for their 2 children (the mother claims to be living alone)
    When she gave birth each time she applied and got grants under her maiden name and that of her ex-husbands – so 4 grants for 2 children
    They pay no council tax
    He works cash in hand as a driver

    So they are benefit cheats, and fraudsters and they have a lifestyle I can only dream of – Holidays, nice car, TV/computers, i-pads –

    They have a income of over £25,000 but have no rent to pay, no council tax, it’s all disposable income bar their electricity. I work full time and after all my bills have less than £6,000 disposable income –

    So no wonder people choose a cosy life of relaxation and handouts than getting of their asses and working.

  50. 50
    the poor bloody tax-payer says:

    because you are a sucker and vote to be treated as one – easy, innit?

  51. 51
    common attitude and has been for years says:

    socialist yes…sick…in the head yes…and perfect great unwashed fodder

  52. 52
    Sunderland a dormitory town awaiting the arrivals of Bulgarians ,Romanians and Romas in 2013 things says:

    The xlient state represents all that is wrong with this country I see it being played out every day .the world and wife are to blame ,its the victim strategy gone mad ,they cannot see that their lack of ambition,endeavour and ability to manage their own lives is their only salvation.but they would rsther remain part of the benefit culture as long as someone else is paying for it.

  53. 53
    Sunderland a dormitory town awaiting the arrivals of Bulgarians ,Romanians and Romas in 2013 things says:

    But she has got great tits!

  54. 54
    is everybody still pissed or what ? says:

    all of that meant nothing to us either dipstick

  55. 55
    warlockwanderer says:

    Wow. I get up at 4am every morning to pay taxes to fund this lazy slob? Why do I live in this country?

  56. 56
    Dave's PR People says:

    Look, we’ve tried everything. We’ve spent hours with Dave practising the earnest looks, the slightly knitted brow and interested nod when he has to listen to plebs, sorry I mean normal people, the thumb jab to emphasise an important phrase. It just isn’t working, he still projects an image somewhere between an upper class bufoonish twit and a greasy estate agent. Mind you, I feel sorry for Milliband’s PR people, apparently they’re in tears almost the whole time.

  57. 57
    Bluto says:

    Third attempt eh? Do you Labourites have some automatic brain trigger that automatically puts you on the side of arseholes or do you actually think about it first?

    Or is this just the usual blog monitoring damage control on behalf of the party propaganda machine?

  58. 58
    Bluto says:

    Of course they do. They can never face the truth. Because they lie every time they open their mouths they assume everyone else does.

  59. 59
    McBonkers says:

    I know a chap called Gordon. I meet him every day when I look in the mirror. We have some very interesting chats together about financial prudence and rhubarb crumble.

  60. 60
    third division twat says:

    he might stretch you a bit mentally anon judging by your comment

  61. 61
    Anonymous says:

    go back to bulgaria then.

  62. 62
    But We Love Our Neo Anyhow! says:

    Probably stayed out all night, too, just like he of the unruly coiffure.

  63. 63
    Kevin T says:

    What planet do you live on? Go down to your local police station and ask if you can “ride along” with a response unit one evening. Or if that’s a bit too scary for you, just spend a day in a magistrate’s court. You will encounter people like this in numbers that will make your jaw hit the floor. You personify the problem with the left today – you have no contact with what goes on outside your liberal middle class bubble, and so you don’t see what the politics you support has created.

  64. 64

    The more people like him, the more to vote for me.

    Increase welfare to help my supporters!

  65. 65
    Anonymous says:

    At least gordon didn’t chillax

  66. 66
    Radio Watch says:

    Not a socialist: But looking at this:

    Out of work for about 6-7 years, so since c. 2005. It was about then that the cheap labour imports started to really affect availability of entry level jobs and depress wages. So, immigration policies likely cooked his goose to start with.

    Withdrawing benefits after turning down a job doesn’t make any sense, irrespective of ‘rights to money’.

    The hours didn’t sound too bad, but if there was a 2 hour trip involved to get to the place of employment there may have been an issue, especially if affordable transport not available.

    The only thing which can be faulted here is the ‘low wages’ reason: I think what the chap was not saying is that the wages and tax burden he would have picked up would likely have left him worst off compared to the benefits he was on, combined with the inconvenience of getting up earlier.

    Traveling later may have also been somewhat cheaper.

    One problem the Tories are fixing is that whilst real world wages have gone down since 2005, benefits in real terms haven’t really, so this chap has been caught in a ‘wage’ bubble of sorts and has made poor judgement with the job . He likely has no idea what the real world is paying these days, but then the position may have only been temporary so it may also not have been worth going through all the hassle.

    The worrying question is, just how many others are in his situation out there ?

    Looking at the unemployment stats…. hmm…

    Not worth attacking this guy.

    He should be made a poster child for those let down by Labour, and the radio presenter sounds like she is espousing the new rhetoric of the left which should be realizing now how badly the economy has been damaged by their policies.

  67. 67
    The Far Right says:

    Not a socialist: But looking at this:

    Out of work for about 6-7 years, so since c. 2005. It was about then that the cheap labour imports started to really affect availability of entry level jobs and depress wages. So, immigration policies likely cooked his goose to start with.

    Withdrawing benefits after turning down a job doesn’t make any sense, irrespective of ‘rights to money’.

    The hours didn’t sound too bad, but if there was a 2 hour trip involved to get to the place of employment there may have been an issue, especially if affordable transport not available.

    The only thing which can be faulted here is the ‘low wages’ reason: I think what the chap was not saying is that the wages and tax burden he would have picked up would likely have left him worst off compared to the benefits he was on, combined with the inconvenience of getting up earlier.

    Traveling later may have also been somewhat cheaper.

    One problem the Tories are fixing is that whilst real world wages have gone down since 2005, benefits in real terms haven’t really, so this chap has been caught in a ‘wage’ bubble of sorts and has made poor judgement with the job . He likely has no idea what the real world is paying these days, but then the position may have only been temporary so it may also not have been worth going through all the hassle.

    The worrying question is, just how many others are in his situation out there ?

    Looking at the unemployment stats…. hmm…

    Not worth attacking this guy.

    He should be made a poster child for those let down by Labour, and the radio presenter sounds like she is espousing the new rhetoric of the left which should be realizing now how badly the economy has been damaged by their policies.

  68. 68
    John Prescott says:

    Life of Pie – my kind of film! I’m going to see it 18 ties!

  69. 69
    Kevin T says:

    It’s absolutely staggering to me that there are actually left wingers who think people like this do not exist. Is there anyone on the left anymore who lives on an estate or even knows people that do? Are you all Polly Toynbees and Owen Jones and Laurie Pennys now?

  70. 70
    Kevin T says:

    It’s in 3D so you can almost reach out and take a bite out of it, you fat bastard.

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    London is full of estates intermittent (all over it, of course the tories are trying to move them out now however), huge amounts of it still vote for Labour and are left wing. Are you thick?
    Why do people who hate immigrants live in the countryside, please explain that one?

  72. 72
    Sir William says:

    You can only have good welfare provision if there is a strong work ethic – as, for instance, in the Scandinavian countries. Without that, the feral pigeons crowd out the songbirds.

  73. 73
    Bob Fleming says:

    Pity this guy didn’t phone into a BBC programme – the plug would have been pulled faster than you can say ‘typical labour voter’

  74. 74
    nellnewman says:

    A year or so back there was a television interview with British youths at the Peterborough Benefits Office asking why they weren’t applying for the wealth of seasonal jobs that were available on the fen farms nearby.

    They all answered , and there were about 8/9 of them present, saying the work was too hard and they’d rather live on benefits.

    Those jobs then and now go to hardworking Polish youth because no British youth will take them whilst they can keep drawing easy benefits.

  75. 75
    enthralled by the depth of the political analysis says:

    you missed your vocation

  76. 76
    Gawd Help US says:

    They even refer to benefits day as “pay” day.

  77. 77
    Anonymous says:

    You saying Cameron doesn’t do the same, my sides!.

  78. 78
    Sir Hector Pants says:

    Well who cares what you think MISTER Bob nyah nyah nyah? Not me or LADY Pants!

  79. 79

    Are you mad in your choice of moniker?

    He is liable to m0d you for less that that…

  80. 80
    Hattie Hatemenperson says:

    When I return to power I will outlaw making us women start work at 8am. It will be part of my final solution for men. Men will work 24 hours a day 7 days a week so we sitas can all sit around singing lesbian war songs and talking about diversity.

  81. 81
    its april the 1st says:

    frankly I’d live anywhere as long as it wasn’t next to a c’unt like you anon

  82. 82
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    Food for thought:

    How many of the people who post here during working hours Mon- Fri are:

    a ) Unemployed
    b ) Skiving off work at their desk to play on the Internet

  83. 83
    I d on't need no doctor says:

    …..and I would employ only Polish nurses in our hospitals, not the british form filling don’t give a shit types. No MP dare tell the truth about the state of care in our hospitals.

  84. 84
    Anonymous says:

    This is a set up. He casually mentions he does cash in hand work and then the 8am thing. Come on! Anything that’s too good to be true usually is!

  85. 85
    nellnewman says:

    I grew up on a council estate and I’m proud of it. No-one in my family, or on that council estate then ever drew benefits .

    Everybody there worked, on the land, some in factories some in the brickyards . And families worked long hours to get their children a better education and to get some of them to university for a better life.

    That self respecting drive and belief in working hard to do better was seriously undermined by 13 years of labour cynically degrading the British working classes and using benefits to buy votes.

  86. 86
    I d on't need no doctor says:

    What on earth is a sitas?

  87. 87
    Anonymous says:

    I did a poll in my backyard of British and Polish cats, on why they had pissed in my backyard. The Polish cats said they had done it because they didn’t want to piss in their owners house as they were used to being beaten and shat upon from great heights. The british cats said that they didn’t like to travel and that the army weren’t hiring anymore.

  88. 88
    Anonymous says:

    I though Julia HB was terrific.

  89. 89

    And the chatterati of Hampstead and Islington gush to each other things like Well, you can understand what they mean, of course!

  90. 90
    Dianne Abbott says:

    It’s me honky, I sit on me ass all day in de hoc, so me is a sitas.

  91. 91
    Kevin T says:

    Voting for you because you bribe them to, and actually being in your vile party and bothering to troll on its behalf on Tory websites – not the same thing. Left wing activists are overwhelmingly middle class nerds.

    If people who hate immigrants live in the countryside, why do the BNP only win seats in multicultural cities?

  92. 92
    Anonymous says:

    Like we’d even speak to each other. British manners you see, what are you a foriegner?

  93. 93
    I d on't need no doctor says:

    +1

  94. 94
    nellnewman says:

    I grew up on a co un cil est ate and I’m proud of it. No-one in my family, or on that co uncil estate then ever drew ben efits .

    Everybody there worked, on the land, some in factories some in the brick yards . Families worked long hours to get their children a better educ ation and to get some of them to unive rsity for a bet ter life.

    That self respecting dr ive and belief in working hard to do better was seriously under mined by 13 years of labour cyn ically degra ding the British working classes and using bene fits to bu y votes.

  95. 95
    Anonymous says:

    I’m not a labour supporter and I think it’s a wind up. If somebody disagrees with you doesn’t mean their a Labour supporter.

  96. 96
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Don’t do that; that would imply a moral judgement was being made! Of course you cannot blame people for what they cannot help being. If you are dim and lack energy and fat from consuming way too much junk food and booze, you can’t help it– it’s the hand you were dealt in life, and we cannot penalise you for it.

    But if one is bright, energetic, and fit, and as a result is more successful in life, let us penalise that person, to make sure they don’t get “uppity,” and start to think they deserve all the products of their abilities, and then let us tell them they should not get cross when anyone else implies that they do not. That would be immoral– sins of pride, avarice and wrath and all that.

    Somewhere along the line, it was determined societally that the sins of envy, lust, gluttony and sloth, being just plain too much fun, weren’t really sinful after all, and were behaviours worthy of subsidy.

  97. 97
    I d on't need no doctor says:

    Kensington please.

  98. 98

    It is a type of woman who *sits on her fat arse* and is a contraction of those words. No one has had time to update Urban Dic yet as they are too busy on diversity courses.

  99. 99
    Frankie's a legend says:

  100. 100
    Reality Bites says:

    As an aside, having listened to that interview and looking around at the general state of things in UK at present, if you could coerce this chap out of bed to do an honest days work, who would actually want to make use of his paid labour for any length of time ?

    (Not an attack on the interviewee – just an objective question.)

  101. 101
    Ed Miliband says:

    I have a seat for you on my bandwagon.

  102. 102
    nellnewman says:

    I am fully in support of IDS’s suggestion that anyone on benefits should be issued with a benefits card , not money, and that that card can only be spent on food, shoes and essentials. No cigarettes, no drugs and no alcohol.

    A fair few of those on benefits would then soon be out looking for work.Whether of course they are capable of finding a job after the trash education they were given under labour is another matter.

  103. 103
    Ex Rat's arse says:

    Not me!

  104. 104

    According to the voting statistics there are a few Conservative voters remaining in that part of London. Conveniently close to the museums so they can be wheeled straight in when their time comes.

  105. 105
    is it light yet ? says:

    and after 18 hours toiling in the fields they still have energy to mow the grass …look after the kids..walk the dogs and say thank you when they return to sleep in their caravans

  106. 106
    Posh Totty Watch says:

    She gives me the horn.

    http://www.imagebam.com/image/37d7eb205281845

  107. 107
    Meanwhile says:

    Michael Buerk Criticises ‘Cringingly Inept’ BBC Over Jubilee, Jimmy Savile And George Entwistle

    Read how he puts the boot in over on the Huff post.

  108. 108
    Louise Mensch says:

    But i don’t want to work!

  109. 109
    Rude and inept staff everywhere says:

    They tend to work in customer service.

    I once rang a gym to enquire about a promotion they were doing at the time for discounted membership. The girl who answered said she’s pass me onto someone else. As she handed the phone over, I heard her say to her colleague “Some guy on the phone wants to know something about something”. Priceless.

  110. 110
    The BBC are cunts says:

    Inept, yes. Cringingly, possibly. Massively expensive, definitely.

  111. 111
    Reality Bites says:

    Funny as it seems women are being pushed out of the workplace at present.

    Now if milkmen can be brought back into the equation, a return to the good old days of Askwith and Hill is in the offing – albeit this time with single mums.

  112. 112
    Anonymous says:

    Dirty bint, she did bullshit (ppe) at oxford you know.

  113. 113
    George Entwistle is cunt of the year says:

    Isn’t he one of the very few non-lefties at the BBC? I remember Peter Sissons writing an article about how he had to keep his views to himself when he worked at the BBC because they didn’t tally with the others around him.

  114. 114
    Anonymous says:

    Damn you sir! You have shattered the illusion.

  115. 115
    wee logician says:

    Oh yes, and he casually gets offended when she suggests his benefits should be stopped… Verdict: genuine. It’s precisely such a person who’d benefit (if that’s the word!) from the benefit card- just has he’s deliberating what portion of time he’s willing to give to the world of work, so taxpayers should deliberate over which items he should be allowed access to… Let’s bring the nitty gritty of cost-benefit to costs and benefits.

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    confused.... says:

    ok no fags booze or drugs but what about sky burgers and porn ?

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    Posh Totty Watch says:

    You sound sexually frustrated. Why call her a dirty bint? She’s lovely posh totty.

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    Reality Bites says:

    I can only imagine the call improving, not. Surprised you were not patched through to Delhi.

  119. 119
    Wayne says:

    Oi!!! Cyder and ciggeez ARE essenshalz!

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    nellnewman says:

    What a Load of urban labour centred cobblers.

    Working on the land is like any other job . Hard work and rewarding and leaving time for family life and gardening.

    Hard work never hurt anyone.

    On the contrary obesity and it’s attendant , potentially fatal illnesses, has mushroomed in a society persuaded by labour to not bother getting out of bed! And how much is that epidemic costing the NHS and we the taxpayer?!

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    Anonymous says:

    how many people….

    a) don’t work the ‘working hours’ your thinking of
    b) are self employed
    c) have a job not so junior that taking a few minutes here or there is all part of the give and take of working in the real world.
    d) are taking annual leave – lots in the public sector.

    not sure why we care really.

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    Can't use me old moniker says:

    Spot on.

  123. 123
    Rude and inept staff everywhere says:

    My recent favourite was at the branch of a well known sandwich chain. I asked for a small drink with my sandwich. The fellow at the till asked me “Would you like that small or large?”

  124. 124
    nellnewman says:

    If they are essential then they should be worked for .

  125. 125

    Meanwhile John Gummer wants to turn us into a third world country. He has been a Council Member for the World Future Council (WFC) for the last year.

    Just take a look at their policies, like this one

    “Global common goods to be placed in trusts, coordinated by a revived UN Trusteeship Council, setting sustainable usage caps and distributing “commons income” usage fees as a basic citizen’s income. ”

    His membership is totally incompatible with this Chairmanship of the Committee on Climate Change, and makes him highly dangerous to the UK’s interests.

    Worse still, his membership is not declared in the Parliamentary Register of Interests.

    Please expose him, Guido.

    The full policy agenda of the WFC is below. Well worth a read.

    http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/12/26/john-gummer-and-the-world-future-council/

  126. 126
    Anonymous says:

    Yeh why can’t everyone just be in a thinktank and drink shit coffee all day.

  127. 127
    nellnewman says:

    Actually I’m personally of the view that even benefits by a card should be worked for.

    If the person needing benefits has no job then they should be sent out in an identifying coat – saying ‘benefit dependent’ and made to sweep streets, clean up dog stuff and pick up litter.

    And they should only be given benefit card for the week when they have done a full 40 hour week’s work like the rest of us who work before we get paid.

  128. 128
    Talk radio says:

    I thougt it sounded a bit like those calls from Radio 4’s Down the Line, which satirised talk radio callers.

    NB The following is not a real call. I state that because when it was originally aired, many listeners thought it was real and flooded R4 with complaints.

  129. 129
    The Far Right says:

    Sounded like a wind up, but it certainly is useful grist for the mill.

    Remember: Credibility alone dictates whether propaganda output is true or false.

    However, it will give the lefties something to chew on. But was the call sourced from the left or the right ? With the spinning at present one would not be surprised if this was an off duty cop hoping to help Ed out of an ideological hole.

  130. 130
    Ex Rat's arse says:

    To T.Bliar, you mentioned dead Iraqis but forgot to mention our own dead service personnel. Oh well,what do they matter when you can coin itin. You utter b*st*rd.

    One word for you… ORE. Slap that up your D-notice!

  131. 131
    DO NOWT DAVE TOTAL TRAIN WRECK AND ONE TERM DISASTER says:

    A set of wanky champagne socialist butt fuckers

  132. 132
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Excuses, excuses.

    That’s the trouble. Everyone makes excuses for them.

  133. 133
    nellnewman says:

    The more life at the Beeb is revealed by insiders , not to mention the savile scandal, the more the beeb begins to sound like the epitomy of Animal Farm!

  134. 134
    confused.... says:

    it started way before 13 years of labour government

  135. 135
    Anonymous says:

    You know nothing about me. As it happens, I have spent many, many days in magistrates and crown courts as I used to be a reporter on a local rag – which meant I had plenty of contact with people in all sorts of circumstances. There are good and decent people in all the different walks of life – and bad ones too. And stuff your middle class values which means appearances before content – I grew up among and still live among the working class.

    If that guy was genuine, he is a tit – but then again, I’m not so gullible as to believe everything I hear – that’s what good training on a local rag will teach you – question everything and don’t jump to convenient conclusions just to confirm your own prejudices.

  136. 136
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I agree Nell.

    Some politicians make an extremely good living out of farming!

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    Libertarian says:

    Issuing a benefits card and imposing restrictions on what people can purchase is terribly anti-libertarian, and is an unwarranted intrusion into the peoples private lives by the state.

    The assumption that a benefit recipient is somehow the property of the state is a very dangerous assertion and not a good path to go down.

    The state entrapping people in the honey pot of the welfare system is a much bigger problem which is not being addressed.

    Reducing the size of government and enabling those trapped unnecessarily in welfare to become self sufficient is the only policy which should be followed.

    The immediate first step here is the restoration of the 10p rate.

  138. 138
    wee logician says:

    My, my, those boys! Clever, sharp and witty as ever.

  139. 139
    nellnewman says:

    Alas not many folks these days make a good livinng out of farming. The EU made sure that British farming was ruined and left uncompetitive and all the EU benefits went to the French!

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    its april the 1st says:

    No but I can spell one … british language you see

  141. 141
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Exactly! They look after themselves first.

  142. 142
    Ed Militwat says:

    Stop being nasty to this man – he and his type are my core vote.

  143. 143
    Anonymous says:

    £145.50 a year and al jazeera still manages to be far superior.

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    there she goes again.. says:

    perhaps the council estate origin explains the banality of your repetitive ramblings nell

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    Priti Patel says:

    Tories won`t give up that easy
    Things to watch for before 2015…
    Tory gravy train trough line up gets nervous and desperate and stages a revolt and dumps David Cameron as Leader .
    Tory Party elects a new WOMAN Leader[been done before] and preferably a coloured one to again desperately try to grab the womens vote and ethnic vote.A stab you in the back John Major type fanatic just behind the scenes.
    Result…5 more years of Medeival type decline and social benefits cutbacks from the OAP .Don`t think very many OAP in Britain are still so stupid and easily led and fooled or will vote for the Tory Party and especially after the past 50 years but then again there are the bonehead ex military types, Yes Sir No Sir Jump how high Sir?

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    Anonymous says:

    There is a good chance this was a set up to promote what this government is doing.

    But I am not against cash card or even making people on dole come and sit some were 9 to 5 or even getting them to help the community they live in.

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    VoteUkip says:

    I love the way the dishonest left complain about singling out one caller but are always more then happy to quote individuals who they believe without question have been badly done to by the government.

  148. 148
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    That’s why Starbucks was invented.

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    DO NOWT DAVE TOTAL TRAIN WRECK AND ONE TERM DISASTER says:

    There are the under class spongers , but there are also upper class spongers

    “They are all in it together” just that some STEAL more than others and get away with it

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254851/Government-department-spends-extra-10-000-biscuits-guess-headed-Eric-Pickles.html

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    green ink says:

    there is an issue about the rights and wrongs of benefit dependance but you are right that branding is not at all appropriate or desireable.

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    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Dearie me!

    We can’t possibly intrude into people’s private lives – especially if they are already on benefits. Perish the thought.

    But it’s OK to make some elderly people sell their houses to pay for the respite care, which others in local authority houses get for nothing, isn’t it!

  152. 152
    Anonymous says:

    Utter Bollox you Wanker

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    Anonymous says:

    This guy sums up why a strict tightening up of who qualifies for benefits is essential. Benefits must be for the disabled & needy, not the crafty & lazy. This guy confirms that he has some black market work but then claims that there isn’t any work around although when he was offered work starting at 08.00! Both a hypocrite & a benefits cheat!
    It is so pleasing to know that I work hard & that my taxes go to help lazy sods like this!

  154. 154
    ..Silicon Implant!! says:

    I smell a rat, that bloke was such a one-dimensional stereotypical scrounger that he had to be on a wind-up. I’m quite sure that such people exist, but they aren’t listening to LBC, and they can’t generally articulate their thoughts, such as they are, as well as that bloke does.

    The trick, by the way, is finding a way to kick people like that bloke up the arse without putting the boot into people who are genuinely struggling as hard as they can to play by the rules and get a job. See ATOS and their ‘fitness to work’ tests for an example of exactly how not to do that.

    As an aside, it’s very hard for ‘the great and the good’ to take the moral high ground and criticise the underclass for ripping off the system for anything they can get out of it any way they can when they can be shown to have done worse for sums a thousand times higher with their expenses claims and their subsidised bars. And that’s just MPs. Dole scroungers everywhere will have to fiddle much harder if they are to compete with bankers. Will we be handing out knighthoods to the best housing benefit fraudster, or is that oinly the reward of the corporate crook? And if it is OK to observe the letter of the law while crapping all over the spirit when deciding how much corporate tax your multi-billion pound empire will pay, why is it morally wrong to submit ridiculous deliberately illiterate job applications for jobs you don’t want just to satisfy the Job Centre requirement that you are ‘looking for work’?

  155. 155
    Nitty Nora head explore says:

    That’s my job! don’t give it to some shameless lout who can’t get his poor little bum out of bed, probably a bedwetter too!

  156. 156

    But surely the job of the milkman is to deliver cream product to all the bored housewives on his round… (I had a round when I was a young man.)

  157. 157
    The savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    No one has mentioned the other limb of our dependency culture .

    The pramfaces who have at least one offspring every five years from one night stand dissapearing fathers thus guaranteeing them continued entitlement to council flat and free money .

    Why not just revert to the victorian ethic of treating this as sinful, putting the children in orphanages and the mothers working in state run laundries.

    At least it would cheapen our lauderette bills .

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    Can't use me old moniker says:

    The left are using here the same dilution and denial tactics they were using about immigration in the 1990s.

    I have grown up with the likes of the bloke on the radio and what he says is all real enough.

    This little piece has got their ‘all our clients on the dole are genuinely looking for work’ BS exposed for the BS it is.

  159. 159
    T Bliar says:

    I never get up before 10.30am and then I only get up at 10.30 if someone is paying at least £50k/hour for a talk on modernising our response to the global challenges of tomorrow.

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    Labour says:

    That’s our voting base you’re insulting there!

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    B£iar, Brown & Balls' Broken Britain says:

  162. 162
    Fuggy on the Hill says:

    2 hours from Clerkenwell is :Brighton, Reading, Southend, Birmingham. So exactly how is he not able to find a job near his home and make it for 8am you twat.

  163. 163
    Anonymous says:

    William Booth was a great man unlike you ignorant fuck.

  164. 164
    Anonymous says:

    What a lazy nob. Why can’t England make people work for the dole? You have 6 months to find a job and if nothing comes up, you start community service until you find a job. Taxs are so high in this county and this is what it is paying for. If they don’t want to work for the dole then their benefits are cut (along with housing). Let’s see how fast they get a job then. And anyone found paying cash money to someone on benefits should also be equally penalised.

  165. 165
    Anonymous says:

    At the age of 15 in the very early 1950s I worked in an abetiour killing pis. I started work at 6.00am after a ten mile journey. My part in the process was to actualy kill the pigs and others in the small gang scaldedthem gutted them and split them. The others who were all grown men were paid a bonus of a few pence per head of pigs killed and dressed. As my part in the process set the pace it affected their wages so if they thought I wasn’t working fast enough I would often recieve a thumping. Bacon pigs and porkets were stunned with electric stunners by me before I cut their throats. However large breeding sows and boars needed to be shot with a humane pistol. Naturaly some of these animals got the hump and were very aggresive but that was not an excuse for slowing the process and I often got knocked about not only by fellow workers but by these lage pigs.
    Finishing at 5.00pm I would often fall asleep eating my tea. This lazy attitude has only been made possible by the benefit system and should be stoped forthwith.

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    Anonymous says:

    I agree, it really is the fault of women.

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    the old dufflebag says:

    am just thinking on the design of this coat of many colours you’re
    suggesting Nell … perhaps you could also have tick boxes for
    things like ‘cancer treatment recipient’ or ‘parent of disabled child’

    nell if you want to really rub their noses in it the whole outfit could be multipurpose in that the wearer could eat sleep and live in it and if nothing
    else when they walk round towns the farmers would at least know
    what to throw their old veg at.

    I detest labour and it’s hypocricy but get real woman

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    Kebab travel update says:

    An accident is blocking Charing Cross Road southbound at the junction with Shaftesbury Avenue (Cambridge Circus).

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    Can't use me old moniker says:

    The left are using here the same dilution and denial tactics they were using about immigration in the 1990s.

    I have grown up with the likes of the bloke on the radio and what he says is all real enough.

    This little piece has got their ‘all our clients on the dole are genuinely looking for work’ BS exposed for the BS it is.

    What is not talked about, and can’t be talked about, is how certain communities/cultures working in the benefit system tend to help their own.

  170. 170
    green ink says:

    no of course its not right but nor is it right to label everyone with the same tag

  171. 171
    Camoron Z Gottago says:

    Has it not occurred to you to simply dump the twat ?

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    Tony Blair must be executed for treason says:

    the sooner the SHTF the better.

  173. 173
    warlockwanderer says:

    I’m English you clown. Did I pay for the hangover you seem to have?

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    nellnewman says:

    I worked with a man, some years ago now, who was a cancer sufferer. He was an accountant.

    One of my neighbour’s is blind and yet is a working musician.

    I myself am a grand-parent raising a disabled child – and still working.

    What makes you think people in these situation cannot work? You have a very poor respect for disabled people to believe they can achieve nothing with their lives!!

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    Labour's base says:

  176. 176
    nellnewman says:

    A one-term PM eh?

    They said the same of obama – and where is he now?

  177. 177
    giant gonad says:

    don’t think so.

  178. 178
    Mandy the Floater says:

    Gordon was more clay in my hands.

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    Tony Blair must be executed for treason says:

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    JabbaTheCat says:

    Nah, Neo’s on EDT…

  181. 181
    oooer... says:

    I bet the turkey trembled when you picked the knife up ..

  182. 182
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I am not tarring everyone with the same brush, but I do know of people who are claiming benefits to which they are not entitled.

    I work and pay taxes into the UK system and those taxes should pay the powers that be to do the job properly.

    The fact that they can’t is down to the people who elected them……..

    ‘Nuff said.

  183. 183
    Nick Brown says:

    Get a Ukranian to beat the lazy fuckers as they clean the roads.

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    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Ah, yes. John Gummer MP. I remember him.

    This is the man who was photographed stuffing a burger into his child’s mouth during the mad cow outbreak.

  185. 185
    Freebie Cherie says:

    Cherie Blair gets an honour for so-called charity work, where she collects the bulk of the takings and leaves 8% for the charities. This is the woman who threw a tantrum when the expenses office rejected some of her claims. When you remember the things they DID accept, it makes you wonder what she was claiming, but we’ll never know thanks to the forms being mysteriously shredded. And this is the woman who refused to bow before the Queen. To say I hope she dies of cancer is an understatement.

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    Can't use me old moniker says:

    There’s a good chance, no, this HAS got the vile left rattled.

  187. 187
    nellnewman says:

    Ah and here come the left – no debating skills – just abuse.

    Won’t wash!

  188. 188
    Anonymous says:

    Its like a modern version of Follow me by the bbc, lets broadcast that clip around the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGiNjI1j2P4

  189. 189
    Ed Miliband says:

    This is the sort of man we should look up to. I’m going to make sure he votes for me in 2015. I will double his benefits and outlaw him having to ever work again.

  190. 190
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Where were you educated, Ms Patel?

  191. 191
    don't laugh.. says:

    quote…’that’s what good training on a local rag will teach you’

  192. 192
    Anonymous says:

    Shouldn’t you be fucking off to Singapore Kev? Thought that was where all the clever tories were heading.

  193. 193
    Anonymous says:

    Why should one benefits claimant bow to another, seriously the queen is no less responsible.

  194. 194
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I’ll bet there are loads of left-wingers who live on estates, and not council estates either.

  195. 195
    Tony says:

    This item was presumably intended to be broadcast on April 1st, and was aired by mistake.

  196. 196
    Anonymous says:

    Well behave more English then.

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    is it light yet ? says:

    I do have to say you are so far away from the truth in that comment even you would be amused Nell

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    Anonymous says:

    Agree

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    PAC are missing the point : Online Sellers + Lux Tax says:

    Seeing as EBay have now figured out the same legal tax two step as Amazon and the rest:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/30/net-us-ebay-tax-europe-idUSBRE8AT0S720121130

    The notion of ‘ethical’ tax and that avoidance is bad should be shelved for good.

    Either the UK changes it VAT to compete – which ultimately will result in zero rating or changes the law with respect to how foreign companies trading here account for their tax.

    The single key aspect missed is that instead of attacking and complaining about the legitimate arrangements of multi-national online firms, why not encourage local competition to replace ?

    Tiering of corporation tax and some tuning on VAT could provide a tax environment which could allow competition to develop and to a degree counter the current tax arbitrage schemes which are impacting the exchequer adversely.

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    Cynical-old-bag says:

    And with your looks, dear, you shouldn’t have to.

  201. 201
    Liarpoliticians says:

    Perhaps there would be more jobs if people like Petrie Hosken would stop appearing on the Sky Newspaper Review and give some pleb a go?

  202. 202
    Cyril Smith says:

    I was big and pervy and no one stopped me!

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    Anonymous says:

    If babestation employed men, that man would not have had to phone in.

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    Reality Bites says:

    To Silicon’s point though: If he couldn’t be arsed to get up for an 8AM start, why would he be arsed to phone in to LBC if genuine ?

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    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I think there’s a vast difference between the Civil List and Benefits.

    Do you even know what the Civil List is?

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    nellnewman says:

    +++Laugh+++ I think the twit gummer sums up the ‘calibre’ of mp’s we have very nicely!

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    Spaz Watch says:

    But he should really check what is going on back in the old country before getting on his high horse here:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=168176858

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    David Cameron says:

    Just for the record, I can confirm that I don’t have the balls to do anything about this dolie tosser.

    I am a wet fart aristoliberal. I am not scared of the Tory right, because they don’t have the courage to get rid of me, even though I am electorally toxic.

    You the taxpayer are fucked.

  210. 210
    Anonymous says:

    What a drain on society. Jeremy Clarkson was right about lining them up in front of their families to shoot them!

  211. 211

    The trouble is he never went away. He still has an enormous amount of influence.

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    Moby Dick says:

    Sounded like a plant by a right wing tory to hinder the real unemployed

    claiming cash in hand blah,blah,blah etc

  213. 213
    Dick Scratcher says:

    Shame, he probably has bigger tits than the birds on Babestation as well.

  214. 214
    Anonymous says:

    Wait does Society exist again, since when?

  215. 215
    nellnewman says:

    Trying to equate Her Maj with cherrybliar is like trying to equate Mother Theresa with bonnie of bonnie and clyde!

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    Kevin T says:

    If a word of that was true, you wouldn’t doubt there are plenty of people around like this.

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    Machiavelli says:

    Or a left wing plant to stir up the right ?

  218. 218
    nellnewman says:

    ‘hinder the real unemployed’??!!

    hinder them from doing what? working ?!

  219. 219
    Anonymous says:

    Point?

    Good training was not available on a local rag?
    Wrong lesson to take from said training?
    Poor English?
    Just being an idiot?

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    Wot Tayler says:

    No songbirds now in my part of N.Londonistan; Just pigeons, crows and magpies.

  221. 221
    Kevin T says:

    Didn’t mean to imply anyone from an estate was a scrounger, just that anyone who’s lived on an estate will know people like the caller, and not immediately think “Tory wind-up call”.

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    What a plonker says:

    I wonder who he votes for ?

  223. 223
    Anonymous says:

    Is it something only rich people get?

  224. 224
    DO NOWT DAVE TOTAL TRAIN WRECK AND ONE TERM DISASTER says:

    Obama is a president deary

  225. 225
    nellnewman says:

    Labour have a reputation for never getting rid of their failing leaders – eg brown , foot etc

    The tories however are known for their decisive coups and getting rid of leaders they think are failing eg MrsT.

    Cameron would be a fool not to be aware of that. Oh wait a minute…..

  226. 226
    Lord Stansted says:

    Excellent comment.

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    Your Friendly Neighbourhood Benefits Delivery Analysis Service says:

    A quick look over to Google Images produced an example of a kind of electronic funds transfer card used in the States (here, New York) to administer benefits to, and serves as the ID as well for, the recipients; i.e., like a rechargeable gift card of sorts. It is an omnibus kind of card in that it accesses both State and Federal programmes. This one was chosen only because it looks institutional. Other cards from other states look like bloody ATM cards, probably as a way of trying not to stigmatise the cardholder in a shop, one would imagine:

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    Lord Stansted says:

    +1

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    thehighcommissioner says:

    I get up at 4am to scavenge bins for food and what people have left out.

    Dave Cameron personally and in the presence of Gorden Brown, laughed at me, sneered at me and told me my life was worthless and that he was going to cut my dole money.
    This was two months before the general election.
    There is more.

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    Don't look over there, look over here!!! says:

    Quite right sir…I second that motion.

    :The tangled tale of Lord Deben and a dodgy Severn barrageb

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9498568/The-tangled-tale-of-Lord-Deben-and-a-dodgy-Severn-barrage.html

    If Yeo get a mention in the DT piece.

    Come on Guido this, is troughing at its worst.

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    What a plonker says:

    Keep taking the tablets Anonymous.

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    Lord Stansted says:

    There are millions (hunfreds of thousands, then) who voted Labour and they would seem either not to don’t know or believe it.

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    Literate Person says:

    That should say “you’re thinking of”. Try learning the difference between “your” and “you’re”.

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    VoteUkip says:

    And all those miserable, whinging bastards who are constantly on the BBC moaning about not having enough taxpayers’ money to live on are Labour plants.

  235. 235
    Anonymous says:

    Thats horrible, those yanks really are a rotten bunch. Traitors and rebels the lot of em.

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    Wot Tayler says:

    Who will folk turn to after 5 years of the milliand? Stock up on canned food!

  237. 237
    John Stuart Mill says:

    Whatever crushes individuality is despotism, by whatever name it may be called.

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    the old dufflebag says:

    you’re off on a tangent again Nell… no one is knocking what disabled people do or don’t do or are capable of incapable of … you suggested benefit claimants should go around wearing coats announcing that fact.

    extrapolating that suggestion why not point out at the same time if that claimant is having medical treatment or is a recovered alcholic or whatever.. where does it stop ?

    the problems you talk about are very real and not just the product of the labour years but spiralled during their tenure.

    the guy interviewed today is atypical of ‘a’ problem within the benefits system and it is wrong if your standard of living is higher on benefits than the average person has from working.

    realistically the effects of that change in emphasis will take years to bear fruit if it ever could be fully implemented which is still very debateable.

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    Lord Stansted says:

    I think he meant what the Left call “real” jobs, i.e. well paid, no heavy lor light ifting, pensioned, 6 weeks holidays and with strong Union representation. In other words, jobs whose occupants will vote Labour for ever and ever.

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    Don't look over there, look over here!!! says:

    b:the cat sat on the mat

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    Anonymous says:

    ^ actually “your” is perfectly acceptable in this context “your thinking of” means ‘these thoughts belonging to you’.

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    Comment of the Day says:

    That actually did make me laugh out loud!

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    silly old buggers decorating tips says:

    well no not really but thankfully not thick chippie c’unts like you generally

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    lefty watch says:

    You are talking to yourself again.

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    Wot Tayler says:

    Hampstead Garden Suburb anyone?

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    Cloward & Piven says:

    We came up with the idea almost a half century ago, when we were young and full of piss and vinegar. In the “best-of-all-worlds” as we saw it, overloading the welfare system would bring the revolution sooner, when the whole system would collapse from being overburdened. At a minimum, the system would continue till an eventual collapse (from other reasons, perhaps), but the social workers to whom we addressed ourselves would have full employment in the interim. Ours was a political/professional, as opposed to ethnic/religious, taking-care-of-our-own, but each can work hand-in-glove with the other.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward-Piven_strategy

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    constituency trainbound says:

    vaz is on manoevres as usual

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    Gloria H says:

    Anon – I bet you believed the police though when they were smearing Andrew Mitchell.

    Were you one of the millions who got that one wrong? Or perhaps you are not of the lynch mob mentality?

    The left are so duplicitous and hypocritical but they just cannot see it. Blinded by their own ideology.

    If you are not a leftist then I apologise, but you certainly come across as one.

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    Can't use me old moniker says:

    Boredem, then, seems to me, he wanted to complain about these ‘er cards.

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    fredbare says:

    don’t bring back the workhouse, it’s attitudes which need to change not the accommodation

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    Anonymous says:

    Oh so its an elitist thing, oh ok I’ll just live my pointless life then.

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    Anonymous says:

    and oxbridge buzzards.

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    silly me says:

    silly me i thought the vast difference was the duct from the bollocks to the prostate.

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    Socialist Workers Party says:

    There is no compassion on the right. We need to build a resource based economy, not a capitalist one driven by profit and competition. We need to build a just society under the principles of love, unity, compassion, solidarity, equality, cooperation, collectivism and mutual respect. Together we can build a harmonious world where we are all equal.

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    Fishy says:

    Gewyne,

    This is the number you should ring to put a stop to this.

    0800 854 440

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    Anonymous says:

    UKIP

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    Socialist Workers Party says:

    The unemployed are righteous heroes who refuse to be cogs in the wheel of elitist capitalism.

  258. 258
    gentleman says:

    Its true – a gentleman never arrives in the office before 10.30.

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    Fishy says:

    I think that the real problem is that a proper job would have interfered with his moonlighting

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    Card Watch says:

    JP Morgan administer and make a lot of money out of those Federal programs. The Civil liberties groups are none too happy about them either.

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    Wot Tayler says:

    Were you educated, Ms Patel?

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    I hope she lies in state so I can piss on her says:

    Is Thatcher dead yet?

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    Wot Tayler says:

    Ahhh?

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    Scally says:

    Oh I can’t read any more of this stuff.
    I’m off to the foodbank.
    Told them I go to church and now they give me more.
    Had a good win on the gee-gees yesterday, so plenty of cash for the pub tonight!

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    Mark Oaten says:

    Who’d like a slice of my chocolate log?

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    Wot Tayler says:

    Tax evasion Bad; Tax avoidance Good.

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    constituency trainbound says:

    any gongs nice when you’ve done your bit

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    Anonymous says:

    He keeps bleating on about discrimination well let me tell him that its about time we discriminated between those who are genuinely looking for work and lazy workshy scum like him who should get fuck all unless he pulls his weight. Tosser !

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    Anonymous says:

    Hello good afternoon gorgeous boys and girls, lovely chatting to you today. Big shout out to gorgeous Kevin, love his welsh tones. Dial the long number on the screen and lets have some fun boys.

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    Anonymous says:

    To all of you: I don’t argue that some people take the piss out of the system and that runs from chief executives through politicians to shopfloor workers through to benefits claimants. Nor do I dispute that in all those groups of people are those who are kind, decent and honest.

    What I have been arguing is you cannot base a whole policy on one radio phone in. One swallow doesn’t make a summer. Nor is this even close to evidence to back up the hatred exhibited here against JSA claimants.

    And if court reporting taught me anything, it’s that police can be equally corrupt as criminals. Again, question everything and everyone.

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    Constructive Paranoia says:

    Interesting video. Raises the question as to whether big government is more attractive to those who would prefer to govern by domination rather than representation. Leaving aside the other obvious messages, it does make a good case for reducing the size of government.

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    Brown Out And Pay Me Damages says:

    The link does not work.

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    I was supposed to get up in 2010 to lead the Labour Party but I haven’t clocked in yet

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    Anonymous says:

    C unts like these should be publicly flogged for our entertaiment.

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    Reality Bites says:

    100% correct. That is the kind of society the welfare system in the UK was built to support, not the kind of society we have now.

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    Fog says:

    Nobody is that good an actor. Unscripted. He is unaware. He’s also a cheat, as said he gets cash in hand (for jobs?). If he refused to work, why is he still receiving benefits?

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    Just can't trust the Tories says:

    Tory MP Rob Wilson’s firm sold topless Stringfellows lap-dancer photos to mobile phone users http://mirr.im/UxgQ72

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    Get a proper sample duhh says:

    2 men have been arrested on suspicion of killing a church organist on Christmas Eve.
    …OMG!! All men kill church organists on Christmas Eve!!! Shit!!

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    Mark Oaten says:

    Cock

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    oh wise one... says:

    quote….

    how many people….

    a) don’t work the ‘working hours’ your thinking of

    are you the past jobbing journo anon ? if so it’d be ‘rewirite’

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    GnosticBrian says:

    Presumably you were also happy that the caller admitted early on that he did work for cash in hand – so he is a benefits cheat and natural LieBore supporter.

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    grubb says:

    LBC, hoist by their own fucktard.

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    Can't use me old moniker says:

    Would that be the one Blair (Eric Arthur) told us about?

  287. 287
    Gordon Brown says:

    I breed parasites in my own form

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    Anonymous says:

    Nell you are sick. My wife died of cancer and needed round the clock care in her final months which I did most of myself.

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    150 milllion dead says:

    Yeah, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot have already tried that one.

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    Anonymous says:

    Guns certainly would have made the riots more tasty.

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    funny money says:

    1997 – 2010, the wilderness years of burgeoning debt.

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    UKuncut says:

    Pay your tax you thieving bastard.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Nell, it will be white people clearing up dog stuff. Can you imagine them getting an unemployed m*uzzie to do it.

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    Constructive Paranoia says:

    Probably not. Likely would have helped prevent.

    But that isn’t really the point.

    The issue is more to do with big government and the type of people it attracts. That an unarmed population is dominated is the next issue.

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    Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

    Why all this fuss about benefits being spent on fags and booze. The government gets most of it back in alcohol and tobacco duty. Not sure, but think there’s also VAT on ciggies.

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    DO NOWT DAVE TOTAL TRAIN WRECK AND ONE TERM DISASTER says:

    As a lapsed Conservative I cannot see how Cameron will ever win an election. We know that he is going to double cross us over Europe. He has not done anything about the ridiculous Human Rights act even though a promise was made prior to the last election. His government are persisting with wind farms that will prove to be a massive folly. Time is being wasted on a stupid bill to give gays marriage rights when other more important issues are side-tracked.
    Our soldiers are being given their P45s when still on active duty despite recruitment ads on TV.
    One can only wonder how long English people will put up with the massive burdens pl;aced on them by incompetent politicians of the main parties.
    I pray that UKIP will at least hold the balance of power at the next election and hope that certain MPs will realise that there is no future in supporting a one term leader

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    nellnewman says:

    Then you have my utmost sympathy and you are to be commended.I have just nursed my Mum through the last difficult few years of her life. She died in August. It is a punishingly hard job.

    But what does that have to do with the beeb? They never helped me one jot! But then neither did the NHS.

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    anonymouse says:

    My core vote set up by Gordon Brown. It was bribery to vote for FULabour.

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    Syria Watch says:

    So it looks like Russia values Tartus after all. Perhaps off the radar to most, anyone noticed that the Russian’s may be able to help Greece’s financial problems if they decide to lease Piraeus for use as a second med naval base ???

    http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/20468561/reports-russia-sends-another-naval-ship-to-syria#axzz2GYW3L6xp

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    DO NOWT DAVE TOTAL TRAIN WRECK AND ONE TERM DISASTER says:

    His eminence Grease Vaz has been criticising the police today
    yes i agree after they have so far failed to get your sorry arse behind bars !

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    Joss Taskin says:

    How many councillors MPs do ukip have in the Country ?

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    DO NOWT DAVE TOTAL TRAIN WRECK AND ONE TERM DISASTER says:

    You on the smack again TaT , you piss soaked cripple tramp wanker

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    Plod says:

    We tried to apprehend Vazeline but it would have been easier to nail a jellyfish to a rubber dinghy.

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    V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

    Scum like him should be rounded up and executed.

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    Anonymous says:

    Great answer.

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    Anonymous says:

    I agree. It’s a fucking disgrace that someone working their arse off should have as much as £500 a month to spend. Lock the shit up!!

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    Anonymous says:

    I think your assessment of the case is correct

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    Jimmy says:

    Well I assume everyone who posts here is gainfuly employed and post on their own time. The alternative would be that they are utter hypocrites which surely can’t be right.

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    2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

    Im surprised he hasnt preached forth about the Indian Rape victim though I suppose theres still time

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    I used to be a Tory but I'm alright now ! says:

    The Conservatives could win by a landslide if they would only grasp some simple principles.

    1. Stop worrying about attracting the 10% ethnic minority vote and concentrate on winning the 90% indigenous vote.

    2. Give a straight in/out referendum on the EU before the next election. Give us all the facts and then just let us decide, for better or worse. Treat us like grown-ups, not children.

    3. Stop being distracted by minority issues such as gay marriage and concentrate on what matters to the great majority of voters of all parties – the state of the economy, immigration, the NHS, crime, education.

    4. Scrap foreign aid and invest the savings in reducing Britain’s massive and growing debt. Borrowing money to give it away is simply obscene and an insult to our intelligence.

    5. On immigration, stop all the words about getting it down to the low thousands and just do it. Instead of taking years to evict people here illegally, get them on a plane tomorrow.

    6. Instead of taking years to getting around to capping benefits at £500 per week, by the middle of next year reduce the cap to 80% of the take home pay of someone working a full week at minimum wage, ie about £160 per week.

    Doubtless others could add more, but that list alone would wipe out Milliband.

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    2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

    No she is on the mend praise be lets hope Skinner goes first!

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    Are you thick? says:

    This would be the same LBC that employs right wingers like Nick Ferrari, would it?

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    Double plus one.

    Just before Christmas I asked a guy, who I know slightly, and he is is on benefits, though, to be fair, he does work cash in hand most days too, what he bought his kids for Xmas.

    Ipads. He bought 4 ipads.

    This isn’t a made up story. Or a Daily Mail evil parasites wind up. Its a fact. This guy, at the school gates, told me he had bought 4 ipads, coz the missus said they likes them. No way , says I. yep..got em at Currys, but they weren’t on sale. Only got the cases for them at 1/2 price.

    I was quite shocked. £16oo on presents. And the eldest kid is only 8.

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    Anonymous says:

    And get totally rat arsed

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    Hayek says:

    A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.

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    2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

    Welcome to Sunderland here its one every three years

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    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

    It started in America….I learnt it in Boston


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    Need new glasses Freud says:

    Just misread that twice. First as manures, second as menopause…

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    Oh ffs says:

    Great idea, but the politicians have all been bought and paid for by big business, well it appears that way and big business see’s max immigration as the new sales drive, they don’t care so long as they make money.

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    Red Ed's non-predator union bosses says:

    :o

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    2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

    No you have covered the lot here maybe Conservative Central Office can read your contribution and pass on to Cameron and Co its not too late yet but time is running out.

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    Anonymous says:

    As a matter of interest do you think reporters are working class, because i dont.

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    Socialists = Sociopaths says:

    Prime minister Margaret Thatcher, talking to
    Women’s Own magazine, October 31 1987
    THE FULL QUOTE:-

    “I think we’ve been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it’s the government’s job to cope with it. ‘I have a problem, I’ll get a grant.’ ‘I’m homeless, the government must house me.’ They’re casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It’s our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There’s no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation.”

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    Baghdad Ann supported the Iraq war in return for being human rights envoy to Iraq says:

    Notice how her voice suddenly returns to normal at the end and her very calm expression as Cameron answers. Of course I’m not suggesting she turned on the waterworks just for effect. She’s a truly honourable piece of shit.

    http://www.frequency.com/video/ann-clwyd-on-husband-owen-roberts-care/68725758/-/5-197156

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    I think we can now go one better than Hayek:

    A claim for equality of material position cannot even be met by a government with totalitarian powers.

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    Joss Taskin says:

    Are you the same guy who told everyone the World would end on 22/12/12 ??

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    Barry says:

    Well said, Julia H-B. You should stand for Parliament. I’d vote for you.

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    Old Grumpy says:

    There are thousands like this idle twat.

    Despite having retired, suffering from a range of chronic cardiac conditions, I STILL get an offer of contract at least once a month!……….. Those are offers, by name, not invitations to apply……….I now send the interested company a form letter, asking if they can accommodate an employee with my set of medical conditions, listed………

    However, in late 2010 I received an invitation from an old client. They were saddened to be informed of my issues, but persisted, because they needed a skills set like mine for their penetration of a new market……….. UK: £500 per day. plus expenses, plus car……….

    They asked me if I could help them find suitable applicants, as one of my skill sets is recruitment……… A 4 month search was unsuccessful……..

    Meanwhile, I continued to converse through one of the more popular UK MBs, with many references to the search. The up-front response seemed very positive, so, eventually, I told my respondents I would recommend anybody with 80% of the skills sets: emphasising my ability to guarantee a face-to face interview………..

    To this day I have received no response, by PM. Eventually I solved my clients’ problem through blind analyses of the records of their more senior permanent employees. I am informed my recommendations were good.

    A long winded preamble with a succint enphasis.

    This Popular MB is required reading for MPs and aspiring politicians. From it, they get a very well defined message that Britain is screaming out for jobs! My message is that Welfare Beneficiaries tend to be settled in their existences, despite public protestations.

    Around 12 years ago, I was in a similar situation in Hamburg. Having planned a new system, I joined the recruitment team. Our target was their welfare beneficiaries. We had included a very comprehensive training package, because one of our agreed aims was to resurrect the careers of long-term unemployed.

    Eventually we imported suitable Polish Applicants.

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    The Admiral says:

    Sir, A Gentleman “works” from home.

  332. 332
    Kcud akcuf says:

    Where do I place my mark (X), I can’t read?

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    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    Ur retired, having worked their arse of for over forty years!

  334. 334
    The Admiral says:

    Quite. Cider is a drink for the gentleman, working or otherwise.

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    The Libor party says:

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    Kebab travel update says:

    Congestion Charge is suspended today until Tuesday 1 January 2013. Congestion Charge will resume Wednesday 2 January 2013.

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    Fact Hunt says:

    Was reading with interest until I got to ‘skill sets’.

    Bloody corporate speak bollocks.

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    CSI: Debden says:

    Scary biscuits..

  339. 339
    Hayek says:

    Cut me a break, even I couldn’t foresee the folly of Brown: The despots parallel to what prompted the binary corollary for Mises’ regression. :-)

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    2013 is going to be bleak in sunderland as the benefit caps kick in says:

    No but if we get another Labour government it might as well.

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    Damned Impertinent Questions says:

    My sons company recently trained a guy on a Government Job Scheme where he got top up benefits for attending. He was very happy to do – as it was only 9 to 5 – because he was working every night for cash in hand and this course kept the dole off his back.

    Another one explained carefully that he couldn’t attend the final exams as he was going on holiday – a cruise for 2 weeks.

    On each course the company is contracted to provide a sandwich lunch for students. Fair enough but last year we had 2 complaints about the food. One complained that there were no prawn sandwiches.The other wanted smoked salmon on brown bread.

    A year ago we offered one man a job.It was 2 miles from his house and the bus literally stopped at the end of street and directly opposite the work site. Despite having been unemployed for 6 years he refused point blank to do it. “I dont use buses mate”.It turned out that he refused on principle to work anywhere except in the housing estate where she lived – where there was no work of any type available.

    I am not lying or exaggerating this.With some of them – a small minority – that is how bad it is. They are aren’t just unemployed – they are unemployable. God help any employer who will take them on.

    I want to stress that this layer is only 5% to 10% of those who cross our doors. The vast majority are keen to work and get a real confidence boost when they get a job – you can see the change in them. They are honest decent people who want to work – and they are the people who are most angry at the way this layer of workshy scroungers can exploit the system

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    Anonymous says:

    But Nell, it was the libertarian far right that got rid of the last true Old Labour socialist leader Michael Foot.

    The bad press about his donkey jacket at the Cenotaph just handed them the ammo to perform the hatchet job. These days all we have a choice of now is libertarian blue, yellow or red patties to vote for.

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    HenryV says:

    Why he is ringing in himself? Can’t we get a Pole to do it? We can always replace the Pole with a Romanian or Bulgarian in December as they will be even cheaper!

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    john in cheshire says:

    What’s more surprising is that LBC is not populated with the same socialist bigots that infest the bbc.

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    the old dufflebag says:

    paul goodman’s article highlighted top right bears reading and puts well the problems the tories face given the devisive bite of ukip the spineless collapse of the lib dems and the rising tide of the great unwashed vote.

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    Anonymous says:

    In cattle trucks? I smell the foul stench of an HR bod.

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    Captain Birdseye says:

    and thereafter fish every day for pleasure

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    Mary Wollstonecraft says:

    How can a rational being be ennobled by anything that is not obtained by its own exertions ?

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    Spaz Watch says:

    Surprised old Keith hasn’t exploited her old man yet…

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    Well it's a thought says:

    Camoron has gone past his PR sell by date, he’s allowed the BBC to treat him crap and the rest of the media followed in their coattails, the public have followed and this has allowed the lieing b,stards in Liebour to get good PR and whitewashing for the rubbish eddies, time for Camoron to go , there’s just enough time for someone new to takeover the LibCons and get them back to the Conservatives otherwise bye bye.

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    Red Egg Millitit... says:

    Never mind this daft twat on the dole, it boils my p*ss that these raspberry ripples who have everything provided for them whinge and complain that they do not get a Knighthood for winning a medal……. FFS. Most people work a lifetime before getting awards !!!!

    http://www.standard.co.uk/pasportsfeeds/sutcliffe-rues-mistake-over-honours-8433571.html

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    Red Egg Millitit... says:

    Just saying :)

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    Well it's a thought says:

    Billy your talking about a city state that is not in this country any more.

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    Honest view says:

    The sad thing is that it is only reasonable, unless you are a saint, to prefer a life of ease to a life of dull work that brings approximately the same standard of living. The fault is in some ways the situation we have allowed to develop rather than the human being who takes advantage of it.
    How have we got to this stage? I don’t really see a way round it; you can’t expect employers to double their wages and bring about the demise of their businesses.

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    I've met 'em says:

    The honours system is totally discredited. Whenever I see letters after anyone’s name these days know i am probably dealing with a Class A twat.

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    Homo sapiens says:

    It can’t. We are dealing with human beings, few if any of whom are ‘noble’.

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    The Admiral says:

    This is true.

    I was recommended to a chap who was a bit fo a tree-surgeon-come-mechanic. I agreed £12.50p.h. though he wanted £15. Worked for a day, but had to do something for someone else the following day.
    Following week I had to be out before he arrived. Rang him to see how he was getting on but he wasn’t sure what he could do till I got back so I suggested prepping the Rolls we would make the next project, i.e. give it a wash over, under-cover, as it was raining. Ah, but he felt that was something I might do?

    Got back, he was on his mobile, again.

    Discussed what he actually wanted to do and we agreed it wasn’t up his street!
    Finally, I asked for bill, but he said only if it was at £15p.h. to cover his tax! £12.50ph not enough!

    Kinda says it all…

    Pity is I actually need someone I know for this job.

    ps He left a racing bike stuffed outside, out the way, to go rusty.

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    JH585463457 says:

    You are gainfully employed TO post here, so no worries for you.

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    Time for a new T shirt says:

    For a PR guy he’s not very good at PR.

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    Aesop, on Labour says:

    We hang the petty thieves…and appoint the great ones to public office.

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    Fiscal Cliff says:

    I’m coming to get you!

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    noah says:

    I had occasion recently to observe at close quarters one of those drug abusing, promiscuous, violent, criminal families, well families is a loose term.
    I do not see as a society how we are going to come back from this without some sort of a purge.

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    US Watch says:

    There are some pictures comparing to Frank Marshall Davis / person who is claimed to be related – make your own mind up there. A genetic test is required, but something somewhere is fake.

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    Grammarian says:

    Anonymous: ‘Your’ an illiterate.

    You clearly don’t know the difference between ‘Your’ (possessive pronoun which goes before a noun) and YOU’RE (contraction of the VERB ‘to be’, i.e. YOU ARE.)

    I bet ‘your’ a teacher, aren’t you?

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    Damned Impertinent Questions says:

    If you were a true entrepreneur you might have negotiated a profit share based upon a faster stunning speed

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    Anonymous says:

    I am old enough to recall when this country had one of the most willing and diversified workforces in the world.Now I am watching them die in poverty with robbed pension funds.I decided not to put money into retirement when I did the numbers on the “Graduated Pension Scheme” back in the sixties.

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    inside- out says:

    Go to any magistrates court in any part of the country you will see hundreds of these scroats.They all look the same,dress the same,speak the same, “its my right innit”. They are what 11 years of State education and benefits have produced.

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    noah says:

    we should have a separate Olympics for skinny fuckers with no sense of coordination

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    Pundit too too says:

    In the early 1960’s when I was employing people at the factory it was nationally acknowledged that 5% of the nation’s workforce were unemployable.
    We also were given an undertaking to employ up to 5% of our workforce as handicapped people.
    Now the unemployables’ would be over 10%; the total handicapped must be another 10%; and the totally undesirables’ at least another 15%.
    So basically at least 25% of our nation’s workforce are not employable.

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    Grammarian says:

    You automatically assume that anyone who isn’t working is screwing the state for every penny they can get, like every dedicated Socialist does, irrespective of how much money they’ve got hidden away.

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    Anonymous says:

    I am old enough to recall when this country had one of the most willing and diversified workforces in the world.Now I am watching them die in poverty with robbed pension funds.I decided not to put money into retirement when I did the numbers on the “Graduated Pension Scheme” back in the sixties.

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    Austrian says:

    You went to a good school then!

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    Public Sector Parasite says:

    See, not being the sort of gullible mug who gets taken in by everything he hears on the tabloid-standard radio stations like LBC or reads on Guido Fawkes, I think to myself whether it’s not possible that this ‘caller’ is not a some hired actor employed by people of certain political persuasions to serve some political purpose in demonising benefits claimants.

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    Teresa May says:

    Yankee Go Home.

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    Pundit too too says:

    Tipton, Sedgley, Sandwell, all Labour – says it all really.

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    Londoner says:

    I can’t remember a time when this country was a good place to be. I’m 50. I have never supported any of our governments. I have had a few jobs I enjoyed doing but they would invariably be made shit by shit managers. I worked hard nonetheless and haven’t owed anyone money for decades, except for the house and I will be mortgage free in a couple of months, but to be honest, I wonder what it was all for. The neighbourhood has gone down the pan.

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    Anonymous says:

    Guido, neither you nor I believe this. Whilst I am sure that there are people out there that subscribe to the philosophy, you will be hard put to finding one to espouse it on the radio. To much unneccessary risk of being caught out

    But given the difference between job seekers allowance and minimum wage, there must be an easy way of getting a good screw out of the government.

    Perhaps its as Harriet says, a women has a right to have children irrespective of where the money comes from.

    You can see the solo mums in Kidderminster, fag hanging out of gob, pushing pram with lottery tickets in hand.

  380. 380
    Jimmy says:

    Can they add up?

  381. 381
    Pundit too too says:

    Guido state our Polly has sold her Italian villa. Wonder how much she got for it.

  382. 382
    Ex Labour Voter says:

    Wasn’t that financial crumble and rhubarb prudence ?

  383. 383
    Anonymous says:

    200 years ago my ancestors would have punched your lights out. Today you risk being run in as a closet racist – watch out.

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    Lynton Crosby with a Cockney Accent says:

    Do what John? I should bleedin’ well coco and no mistake guv. Apples and pears kneesupmuvvabrahhn…

  385. 385
    Reality Bites says:

    I remember the good old days with the electric milk floats, makes me want to break out some Duran Duran and vote for Maggie again.

    In all seriousness though, milkmen should be brought back.

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    Gooey Blob says:

    Your comment ably demonstrates the weakness of the left’s argument. Pretty desperate stuff. You have lost the argument and you know it.

  387. 387
    Peregrine Arbuthnot-Smythe says:

    Sir, you are mistaken. A gentleman does not ‘work’. He has private means.

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    Edinburgh Labour voting dogshite says:

    Arsewipes.

  390. 390
    The Libor party says:

    Margaret Moran.

  391. 391
    forgotten man says:

    Used to call it “Pass Go Thursday”.

  392. 392

    You will never know how much was put in on behalf of the dairy industry.

    (The flats in Chapel Road were good though with numbers 11 and 12 both vying for attention… Competition, the heart of Conservatism at one time. And that was just the first part of the round.)

  393. 393
    Red Ken Lyingscum says:

    If you are living in Londonistan, then I, on behalf of the Libor party, would like to take the credit.

  394. 394

    Umlaufsmittel got lost somehow.

  395. 395
    Gooey Blob says:

    Truly desperate stuff from the left who have comprehensively lost this argument.

  396. 396
    Gordon Brown says:

    Oooh, get her! Why not suck another penis anonymong

  397. 397
    Gooey Blob says:

    That’s highly unlikely with Ed Miliband as leader.

  398. 398
    forgotten man says:

    Did anybody else notice that there were 1.4m unemployed in 2002 ish……and 1m new jobs by about 2008…and we STILL had 1.4m unemployed!?

    And that, amazingly we had 1m new arrivals ( and prospective new unemployment candidates and Nulab voters) from far flung lands…

    I wonder if there is a connection there?

  399. 399
    GBS says:

    Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

  400. 400
    Bernie Sh@w says:

    L1berty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.
    – GBS

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    Posh Totty Watch says:

    Julia Hartley-Brewer can give me a job anytime. She’s a busty posh babe.

  402. 402
    forgotten man says:

    Doesnt have time, so many expense claim forms , so much time not at parliment…….must get as much money out of the south as we can before we go independent….

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  404. 404
    Blowing Whistles says:

    So what do you think Blairs plan was? He has manipulated the system such that it may take two or three generations to re-educate the sloven and unemployable into even thinking about coming off of the benefit roundabout’ a better analogy being a Mouse/guineapig on a circular treadmill – going nowhere.

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    John Prescott says:

    Well? So feckin’ what if I won’t get up for an 8 oclock start. What do you think I am? Sebestian Coe on speed? At my age, I struggle to get out of bed by 10. It’s all this long work for the government in the past and especially for Tony and Gordon and right now I’m also working on Ed’s new initiative which is provisionnalty called the Age of Chancers and in the Age of Chancers people will have to face responsibility using a public-private partnership to enhance the motivational actions of all but it is in the end the people who will decide.

    As I said to Julia on the phone (doing my best working man’s impression), I haven’t got the time or the motivatiaction to get up at that time and all you snotty upper class Tory suthern jessies who say otherwise are just fasting authoritators.

  406. 406
    Syria Watch says:

    Definitely not looking good for Assad…

  407. 407
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Are you part of the Syn. agog.ue of Satan group?

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    SaltPetre says:

    I teach university students – who complain if the lecture is at 9am (I leave for work at 6:30am to allow for any traffic jams an get in work at 8am). The university is so terrified of getting bad scores from the NSS and Student Union surveys (affecting our recruitment) that they now offer late afternoon starts (for students) and expect academic staff to work from 9am until 9pm to accommodate the whining little ‘customers’.

  409. 409
    Blowing Whistles says:

    When has he not lied about anything? He’s just another creepy commie placeman and he is bethrothed to loving Israel above all else. Get that effer out of the party.

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    HellforLeather says:

    Well, you had such good training as a reporter, you reckon you’re hot stuff, you have plenty of time on your hands, and have such good antennae for something squiffy.

    So sniff out this person and either expose him for being a political activist or a benefit fraud.

    I suspect many commentators here will be happy to excuse you from further ovservations until you manage that.

  411. 411
    SaltPetre says:

    He might consider a career in politics though.

  412. 412
    R.U.Shaw says:

    The religion of piss: bringing death and destruction across the globe.

  413. 413
    Blowing Whistles says:

    SC – left a reply for you and CW on the other link in respect of look at the damned legals and their overraching into everyones lives these days – you can’t breathe but for some f-wit lawyer trying to bull5hit you that you can’t do thi and you can’t do that cos it the law…

    F.ucking lawyers are everyones problem. Hang ‘em.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    I crossed swords with J H-B a few years ago [on the phone]. She is a nasty piece of stuff herselfness.

  415. 415
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    “Whenever I see letters after anyone’s name these days, I know I am probably dealing with a Class A twat…”

    This fact has been known in the academic world since Gibraltar was a pebble, with reference to their own post-nominal alphabet soup.

  416. 416
    not a machine says:

    Be a can of worms this topic …… depends how gritty your manor is and if you have lived it .
    Lets be honest there are some really crap jobs , I dont just mean the ones where you have poor management , but the ones where as soon as you pick up your broom or cloth or burger flipper or telesales , you realise that the position your filling was vacated many times before because your expendable and the work load is impossible .
    8-4 if 5 days a week seems like a good oppertunity , I agree he should have taken it , purely ongrounds that he was offered a full time job .

    What really gets my goat , is these jobs where they underemploy you , there is no recognition of jobs doing 4hrs a day and where your costs of actually going to work are not taken into account . If its local and you can walk or bycicle its not so bad , but when your faced with a £3 rt bus fare or £3 a day parking , your 4hrs a day looks like slavery in what you have left .
    I temped as a cook for a day , I was more qualified than my boss , he just kept firing people on any excuse and getting temps , blaming theft from till on them , when he was pockiting it . Some of these underemployment jobs are fairly straight forward , they just need a hand at busy times etc , but some are dire . Dave and George have never had a crap job to do 5 days a week on where you take home £120 .

    Fair enough you want claiments to get into work , but this underemployemnt malarky was happening big time under labour , let alone the call centres that saved labours true jobs horror and then went overseas .

    Like I say unless you understand why we have 3rd generation benefit families , the shock troops will get a get a kick in the nads , come along with some middle class pastiche of what benefit scroungers are , and you will be shown the true Britain Labour created , lots of marginal people with jobs that dont turn better and the tally man .

    Yes a job is a start …… no harm in positive approach but for goodeness sake at next cabinet meeting , get a mxiture of papers from high unemployemnt areas and look at the jobs page , and tell me where is the 15k year job for you to come off benefits , its been like it for over a decade , you cannot just walk into a decent low wage job ….. renting a flat £100 a week , council tax £20 week , travel £20 week , food £50 week , so you need £200 a week just to break out of benefits ..

    I know you want things in the proper direction , but cant you see how utterly corrupt labour were all these years in the sort of employment where you can break out of benefits ??? I dont know doesnt seem brilliant PR to set about the lash on those relying on the jobs that have been absent for years , to fullfill the message .

    Then there are the ones , who are pissed or stoned at the job centre , the feckless ones of Labours education , education, education , whose ging to be patient enough with them and the abuse to help turn there desert life around .

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    She sang the praises of Labour when they were in power – she’s a spinmerchant. See above box 84 comment 409.

    She’s probably one of them Extremist Feminist types.

  418. 418
    Pink Dave says:

    We’re all lefties now, thickwit.

  419. 419
    SaltPetre says:

    This family….are they MPs ?

  420. 420
    Blowing Whistles says:

    When Big David C – comes out with his fear laden rubbish and rhetoric about the EU in the new year with all his mangled wordings of better to be in than out – I will take great pleasure at di-secting every word of his drivel, jargon outright lies and half-truths …. Looking forward to it Davey boy

    [As for how the ‘free press’ spin it up – oh please]
    That’s my New Years pledge over with.

  421. 421
    Blowing Whistles says:

    See Booker on the Wind farm CC myth dying a death this year – Drought![we’re doomed say the GW mongers] “WHAT FUCKING DROUGHT?” – sorry about the shouting and colloquial English.

  422. 422
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Love to see someone do a montage of Ed M, David C, Chris H, Nat R and a few others holding up ‘Hockey Sticks’?

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    vote UKIP says:

    He probably can’t be arsed to go and vote, and indeed why should he? They are all the same. (Except for UKIP).

  425. 425
    R.U.Shaw says:

    Syria’s jihadists ‘feed beheaded Christian to dogs’

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1184745.ece

  426. 426
    Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

    I would shag Doreen and her daughters, if they came into my surgery. Boaz.

  427. 427
    Tom Watson MP says:

    Oi! I’m originally from Kidderminster! You can’t talk that way about my childhood home town! You’re going to fucking regret saying that!

  428. 428
    vote UKIP says:

    Your argument is a straw-man, no one is judging anything on the basis of one phone-in. You know this, and we you know this, so stop whining.

  429. 429

    Saw it but think that whilst there are problems it is not the whole picture.

    First we have to look at the difference between criminal and civil law. The taxi rank system means that barristers have to accept cases as they come up. Their job is not to look at the ethics of the situation, however wrong we think that to be. I do not have vast experience in this type of law.

    The civil law I have a great amount of experience of and I did a lot of work particularly on contract law and on the Treaty of Rome.

    Having said that it is true that in many situations the lawyers enjoy a win-win situation. There is no quality control. My company at one time took Counsel’s opinion on the drafting of Consumer Credit documents. His knowledge was so bad that I had to correct him on numerous points and in the end he just said whatever you think.

    It was an uncomfortable situation for me as I had provided the initial draft myself and I had taken the decision to use Plain English. So I had no one really check my work. In the end, because I could not commission another barrister, we transacted several billions of pounds of business on my documents. We never lost any money due to poor wording and I noticed, partly with annoyance and partly with some pride, that several other large companies had lifted my entire wording for their documents.

    But it is politicians who make the law and I can tell you the quality of lawmaking has deteriorated decade by decade. I do not blame the parliamentary draftsmen as they do their best with what is thrown at them. When you consider that it has been concocted by people with the intelligence levels of Margaret Moran and Jim Devine, then is it any surprise?

  430. 430
    McBonkers says:

    Yes! We have a lovely time! But you see there’s not just the nice Gordon in the bathroom mirror, there’s the nasty Gordon too. Sometimes in the morning when I’m eating my boiled egg. I see him in the back of my spoon throwing Nokias and screaming rude words. He scares me a bit.

  431. 431
    Turing, A. says:

    are you a random word generator?

  432. 432
    Expat Geordie says:

    Monday to Friday 8am to 4pm, officially. Unofficially, quite a bit longer than that, although I do manage to get weekends off most weeks. That’s the reason why I am just a “weekend warrior” on this site.

  433. 433
    Former Naval Person says:

    Pay people to do nothing – and that’s exactly what they’ll do…
    It’s a crazy policy and must stop now.

  434. 434
    Alfred Einstein says:

    A given job is usually rated at £x.

    Then, having flooded the country with the 2nd world euro immigrants and the 3rd world others, the same job is then rated at £x/10.

    See?
    Fuckwit.

  435. 435
    Expat Geordie says:

    Have you ever tried to get a guinea pig on a treadmill?

    Change the animal to a hamster and you’d be spot on though. Especially considering how vicious, anti-social and psychotic most hamsters are.

  436. 436
    Jocasta the soshul wurka says:

    yah, yah, like I really hear what your trying to say, you know?

  437. 437
    Bob Crow says:

    Yu wil farking wel walk if yu want to get anywear on any day that is not munday 2 fryday brother coz the werkers knead daze off alrite?

  438. 438
    Saffron says:

    Have we forgot,a honest days work for a honest days pay.
    In the case of banksters/other high flying scroungers this does not apply.
    In other cases of the high fliers in this land it also does not apply.
    Neither does it apply to the benefit scroungers and economic migrants to this land who are not genuine.
    I understand and feel for people who are under stress through no fault of their own have been let down by incompetent politico’s ploughing their own furrow.
    This land is now at a crossroads of are we going to respect what a majority of the indigeous peoples of this land want to see,or are we going to see the demise of this once great land into an unrecognisable nation of what we were.
    So sad to see what these so called English traitors have done to our nation.

  439. 439
    Ruskin College Oxford says:

    Mr Prescott you are our most famous student why do you treat Ruskin College so badly.

  440. 440

    Surely part of the problem is that we do not have many real jobs in the country because we let all our manufacturing go. The left had a lot to do with it but the management was also appalling. In Germany they still make stuff and sell it to countries where people make money and can afford to pay for these premium goods.

    I can walk out of my front door here and be in Bavaria, on the other side of the river, in five minutes. So I see it all the time. They have a fourteen month salary system. The pay is made monthly but with a discretionary extra month’s pay in June and December – if the employee’s conduct is good. The effect of not being paid the bonus is very salutary. I used this system myself in the 1980s and I found that people would drift away very quickly if they did not work properly. It is not subject to our ludicrous labour laws and if people said it was discriminatory, then good, they had got the message! It was meant to be!

    Considering we had William Armstrong, Richard Arkwright, Josiah Wedgwood and dozens of others in past centuries, we are relatively poor in comparison now with James Dyson and Anthony Bamford as the few entrepreneurial manufacturers we have left.

    We think that selling services to each other creates a viable economy. Pah!

  441. 441

    Saw Uriah Heep last year!

  442. 442

    Assad may now be living the last week of his life.

  443. 443
    anony nonny no says:

    Cherie Booth was an ignorant fuck you great man.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    The excessively greedy Corporate Capitalists NEED the low-life exceedingly sloven and invertebrate Maxist commie lefties. Both sides rely upon one another to keep their left and right systems running along ‘Divied and rule’. And guess who controls both sides? Dohh! no prizes for the answer.

    When a Communist Dictatorship runs into big trouble [Criminality and Fraud at the “top”] – it then leans toward a capitalist type of system.

    When a Capitalist Democracy runs into big trouble [Criminality and Fraud at the “top”] – it then leans toward a communist type of system.

    Hello – are any of you going to work something out?

  445. 445
    South of the M4 says:

    I am mid 50’s and I can remember when, not only was the UK a good place to be, but being a Brit was respected. And this respect was earned through effort and innovation.

    Over the past 15 years I have seen a marked deterioration of work ethic, the
    ‘Brit ‘ becoming the subject, often, of ridicule and an even more marked increase in state interference in ordinary people’s lives.

    I try not to be an old fossil harking back to the past – and I appreciate how change is life’s only constant – but we are going in a really crap direction. Seemingly our politicians are equally devoid of a moral work ethic as they do nothing about it.

    For my two teenagers – my advice is to consider an international career.

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    Makes you weep says:

    Fair point and well made.

  447. 447
    Pontius says:

    Have you not considered crucifixion?

  448. 448
    Syria Watch says:

    Not sure how accurate the reports are – internet still down in Syria. But this could be his last month coming up for sure.

  449. 449
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Its what the corrupted do to their puppets when the going gets too tough SC.

    The CIA are infested with MOSt SAD agents.

  450. 450
    NHS Watch says:

    You have 5x higher probability of it killing you than you do of being killed by firearms in the US, and costs you quite a bit per year:

    Curious how the Canadians and Americans (pre Obamacare) consider the insitution to be not so good. That was before care pathways… something last seen in Europe back in 1930’s Austria / Germany.

  451. 451
    Joss Taskin says:

    Looking forward to his quota of 72 virgins ?

  452. 452
    Blowing Whistles says:

    p.s. SC got another one being mooded at 9:22. [just above ish]

  453. 453
    Pontius says:

    Fair points.

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    Syria Watch says:

    One suspects this is all strategic.

    There is a desire to have Sunn! dominance in the muzzie world, and some ground bases + sh!!te unfriendly mercs fresh from a warzone will be very useful as an advance party going into !ran.

    Word is, shar!a is the new justice to be brought to Syria once Assad and the Alaw!tes / Chr!stians are out.

  455. 455
    Anonymous says:

    below the establishment is ding.dong.
    we must all thrive on it?
    .
    escaping from the ding.dong is a choice, probably easier said than done.
    good to know though.

  456. 456
    White British London Minority says:

    What does “estates intermittent” mean? Are you an immigrant or just one of Labour’s fuck-ups?

  457. 457
    Not confused at all says:

    No, it did not.

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  459. 459
    J0hn Locke says:

    Government has no other end but the preservation of property.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Ahh – the firearms thing.

    So Piers does his thingy in the MOS today about the guns. HOWEVER – here is the rub – Didn’t the Sunday Telegraphs Political Editor Patrick Hennessy – just write a little article back on 9th September 2012 headed “Home owners ‘need a right of self-defence'”. Wherein he wrote of Tracey and Andy Ferrie on page 6 using their legally held guns to fight off some burglars etc etc etc …

    Oh Dear – seems the ptb don’t want to mention “that” case here in the UK as of early September 2012 – now why would that be?

    The 2nd amendment boys only need to quote the above case / issue to silence the Piers and his string-pullers.

  461. 461
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Sunday Telegraph Pg 6 September 9th 2012 Right to self-defence. Mooders at large.

  462. 462
    Zz says:

    ZZZZzzzzzzzz

  463. 463
    Anonymous says:

    with india unsettled……mid east in turmoil…..govt becoming the enemy of the ppl in america and europe sinking…
    .
    what if the pope dies (of natural causes) and there is a stalement about the future..
    .
    and china refusing to participate in one world stuff…. what next? could the U.S default…could something bad happen in Japan?

  464. 464
    Phil O'Sopher says:

    Some anonymous twat saying they are not a Labour support does not make you not a Labour supporter.

  465. 465
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Election in Israel on Jan 22. More chance of the world ending if you know whooo gets his way. Nutjob that he is.

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    Piss Organ Solution says:

  467. 467
    Orwell says:

    The comment that sums up, in a nutshell, precisely what’s wrong with this country. Far too many fuckwits in positions of power and influence who have no experience of reality and wouldn’t recognise it if it was presented to them on a silver platter. My anecdote for what it’s worth: when I was a prison officer in 2010 I heard one con (medium level drug dealer) say to another “I’ve got six years, out in three. Another ten years of selling the gear and I’m retired. You just have to look at jail as earning your pension”. I shit you not.

  468. 468
    Blowing Whistles says:

    It was brought to you courtesy of someone who is not of the so called ‘free press’ – Result.

  469. 469
    Nut Watch says:

    I have my Kosher Snickers and lead lined panties ready and waiting.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Put this in at 9:22 so second attempt to ride around the chicane of the moody ones.

    When Big David C – comes out with his fear laden rubbish and rhetoric about the EU in the new year with all his mangled wordings of better to be in than out – I will take great pleasure at di-secting every word of his drivel, jargon outright xxxs and half-*****s …. Looking forward to it Davey boy

    [As for how the ‘free press’ spin it up – oh please]
    That’s my New Years pledge over with.

  471. 471
    Fish 'n' Chips says:

    What if someone slapped Cameron with a fish and we did something about the real issue: Fish !

  472. 472
    Blowing Whistles says:

    You Moody buggers.

  473. 473
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Send him to Sandbanks Poole Dorset – where Botham used to have a home until some smoke ‘n mirror oppo planted some drugs there.

  474. 474
    She let pensioners freeze to death says:

    Let’s see in 2013 with Thatcher kicking the bucket!

  475. 475
    Piss Organ says:

    This is the one occasion when no-one wants to take the Piss out of America.

  476. 476
    Sally Bercow sings Nik Kershaw says:

    You won’t let your son go down on me

  477. 477
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Gordon Geeko says greed is good – but War is even more profitable.

    Who?

  478. 478
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Unfortunately Britain is full of idiots like that caller. The reason he’s unemployed is he’s unemployable.

    Taking a job on shit wages shows a positive work ethic. No one stays on the bottom rung (unless they really want to) and if he were to take a job on low wages and stick with it, after say 6 or 12 months he can always move on to something better because he will be far more employable with 6 or 12 months of work experience behind him rather than years on the dole.

    This shit is NOT rocket science and the only way to end this nonsense is to stop paying benefits after a period of time, say 2 years.

  479. 479
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I bet Scargill goes first, fuck I’m going to party when that c u ntt goes.

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    We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.
    Buckminster Fuller “The New York Magazine Environmental Teach-In” by
    Elizabeth Barlow in New York Magazine (30 March 1970), p. 30

  481. 481
    Harridan Harmanhater says:

  482. 482
    Operation Crossbow says:

    So long as Muslims are killing each other it’s fine by me.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Its late but I have experience of both Civil and Criminal. They are both all about usur.y and deception.

    I have knocked off as a lay person many barristers and judges [Inc LJ’s MJ’s] – and F me – they don’t like it when a lay shuvs it back up their Rses.

  484. 484
    Can't use me old moniker says:

    Part of the problem, as I see it, is blair, clinton and others gambled on a growing knowledge/service economy producing ‘immaterial’ goods and services, which didn’t quite come off, even though we reconfigured our university system to give the new ‘immaterial workers’ the illusion that they were smart. Japan and China were to lead in ‘high end manufacture’, they did all right, some other developed nations were to be tourist/service economies (New Zeeland was told this was their only option in a report I read a decade ago) and so on. The traitorous unions stood by while all the manufacturing jobs in UK and USA were moved to third world countries and never said a word about it, nor did the BBC.
    During this time the whole employment structure (amongst other things) was changed from one of permanence (jobs for life) to temporary ‘flexible’ (precarious) jobs (except in the public sector) the unions were also complicit in this.
    This enabled the work force to change its complexion that thrived on cheep and easily dismissed imm agrant labour, which was also meant to come up with fresh ideas due to the differences in culture.

    Now it’s all gone tits-up we and the other ‘knowledge’ economies (sounds so dated) are desperate to get some manufacturing (of material goods) back, but it aint going to be easy.

  485. 485
    Liabilities Watch says:

    And there rests the case for the prosecution against Labours total mismanagement of the UK economy.

  486. 486
    L von Mises says:

    The Welfare State is merely a method for transforming the market economy step by step into Socialism.

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    Blowing Whistles says:

    Thanks for the correction there expat – I just couldn’t think of the animal as I was writing. You are spot on.

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  489. 489
    tabblenabble01 says:

    Conspiracy theories???

    Another great piece by Dr P a u l Cr a ig Roberts (Ex Ass’t Secretary to the US Treasury – and not a fruitcake by any measure)

    Agenda Prevails Over Truth

    http://tinyurl.com/bphq6sz

    PS especially check out the links PCR provides in the piece

  490. 490
    The Civil Service says:

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    Good one.

  491. 491
    Can't use me old moniker says:

    I always cringed/puked when that fat oaf used to say the word ‘toney’. Such a fuckin crawler.

    On another similar topic, did any body spot handycockface as ‘Mr. Stink’ with the girlies on the box tonight?

  492. 492
    Can't use me old moniker says:

    True, but what would this, or perish the thought, a libore government do with the cash they saved?

  493. 493
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Is it not politically correct for me to similarly state that as long as Isra Zion elis ists are killing one another – that’s fine by me too?

    or will the comment be trapped by the Moody ones?

  494. 494
    RED ED MILLIONAIREBAND says:

    But think about the increased votes at Election time !!

  495. 495
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Stick that up your crossbow.

  496. 496
    Oh ffs says:

    She can use the wages and expenses she gets as so called MP then she can, otherwise she can go to hell in a handcart, the sad witch.

  497. 497
    The BBC are cunts says:

    It’s only Licence Payers’ money..

  498. 498
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Silent Bob – your eminent and superior knowledge of matters is requested -Your silence will be taken as an affirmative that you agree that the EU is finished / Dead / kaput / Fooked etc … What says you Silent Bob?

  499. 499
    Labour's Jackboot says:

    Twat will still put a cross against the turd with the red rosette, and there are 10s of millions just like him.

  500. 500
    Blowing Whistles says:

    I agree with you on that point OC – but not about something particular as way above.

  501. 501
    statist says:

    Oh all right then, I’ll respond….

    The Frankfurt School is a J e w i s h economic invention of laissez-faire capitalism, of boom-and-bust economic cycles lead by the banks so that assets can be bought back on the cheap.

    Much of the original Frankfurt School migrated eastward to NYC and Chicago, and thus was formed the Chicago School. Some of them converted the LSE on their way eastward.

  502. 502
    Blowing Whistles says:

    I might read the link tommorrow – however I have been to the fucking place and it is a 5hithole. I was in Mikes Irish Bar in Tel Aviv a couple of years before it was blown up.

  503. 503
    Phil O'Sopher says:

    @Anonymous December 30, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Commiserations, but your wife’s plight seems to be irrelevant to the BBC issue that Nell is talking about. I cannot see why you would attack Nell in the way you did.

  504. 504
    Phil O'Sopher says:

    Call John Major many things, but he was never a fanatic. Which probably means you are one.

  505. 505
    common sense not common purpose says:

    You absolutely MUST call the number provided below and report the greedy vermin. Trust me the council WILL observe them and they’ll get caught eventually.

  506. 506
    Henry V says:

    If no Queen then who? Vote for the mass murderer and colluder in torture and rendition, Blair? I call your “democracy” cheap.

  507. 507
    Anonymous says:

    It’s a shame the workhouse has such a poor reputation. The concept is reasonable but a few horror stories and propaganda by the left forced the places to shut.

  508. 508
    Too sophisticated for lefties says:

    Thanks for that. So often cherry-picked and quoted out of context but lefty liars.

  509. 509
  510. 510
    Pol Potty says:

    Sounds great! Which resources and who will be forced to do the work?

  511. 511
    Woolfy Smiff says:

    The unempoyed are poor bastards who would love to be cogs if they could just get a break, you twat.

  512. 512
    Scrap the BBC licence fee says:

    Is that you Paxman?

    Or maybe it’s a Dimbleby?

  513. 513
    Labout = death + torture says:

    Hi there!

    My name is Tony Blair and I caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands or Iraqi civilians and British soldiers by lying about war, and I also colluded in rendition and torture.

    I was the prime minister of a Labour government.

  514. 514
    noah says:

    can I take this opportunity to wish all non Christians, druggies, thieves and charlatans a very happy new year ?

  515. 515
    Kosher Whistles says:

    No worries chap – gentle fun is all :-)

    Have a great new years if do not ‘see’ you before !

  516. 516
    Sorry lefty but one is a logician says:

    It only takes one example to prove that a problem exists.

  517. 517
    Alf says:

    Until the tax is > 50% then “most” is inaccurate.

  518. 518
    noah says:

    not forgetting the welsh and the Scottish I hope you get all that you want in the next year. I have omitted the Irish from my curse because I have a soft spot or them :-)

  519. 519
    The worker says:

    Im on DIRECTED annual leave by my employer, but neither the less what does it matter whether a person is at home or leave when posting a comment on here. If they are at work they’re earning a wage and paying their dues for the likes of that dim witted lazy bum to claim benefits. The amount of people i know who work more hours than they get paid for entitles them to take 2 minutes to check the net occasionally.

  520. 520
    HenryV says:

    My sister thumped me the other day for saying to my niece, “Whp’s going to go to live in New Zealand when she is old enough? Say it with me, NEW ZEALAND…” Apparently at 10 months old my niece has no concept of geography. If I have anything to do with it she won’t grow up here. I wish I had got out when I could.

  521. 521
    Eck! says:

    One-term Dave is not even good at just the P!
    (Or the R!)

  522. 522
    Anonymous says:

    .
    did someone say…..know thyself?

  523. 523
    Gary says:

    Who gives a shit about being enobled?

  524. 524
    Anonymous says:

    judaism, christianity, islam all have the same grand.dad.
    .
    They are Abrahamic religions.
    .to prevent pae,do,phi,lia, extended families have to work.

  525. 525
    pah dis says:

    yebbut u wuz oirish

  526. 526
    Beasty Bastards says:

    Immigrants sending money abroad from Britain is indeed honourable from their point of view.

    It is a bad thing from our point of view though.

    Only UKIP is standing up for the British.

    You gotta fight for your right to party be British.

  527. 527
    Public Sector Parasite says:

    The weakness is in the reasoning of fools like yourself. You would have to be a total idiot to think something like this could not be scripted and set up. Do you really think that in the entire cesspit of political PR people and special advisers plying their sordid trade in London, nobody could have come up with something like this? You really think that there are no unscrupulous actors out there who can’t do a working class accent? Gosh you must be dim.

    It was a phone-in on LBC so it must be genuine!… a bit like ‘I read it in The Sun so it must be true’.

    And presuming that I am ‘left wing’ is baseless inference.

  528. 528
    Public Sector Parasite says:

    Who is this left they keep mentioning?

  529. 529
  530. 530
    not a machine says:

    Yet another clean sheet on no typos , dam hes good ……

  531. 531
    Latam Watch says:

    Chavez outlook not looking good:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9772236/Hugo-Chavez-suffers-new-complications-after-surgery.html

    – No gloating because he is a socialist though !

  532. 532
    not a machine says:

    The portability was always bound to ensure business went to lowest cost base.

    Add in run away beaurocracy costs and youve got a rather unaffordable Utopia , with ingrained unemployment

  533. 533
  534. 534
    Wunsa Pona-Thyme says:

    You are too soft, Sir. I had a similar experience not long ago when in charge of the company’s “administrative affairs”. We had a new Bentley delivered for the boss. The delivery chap parked it outside the front door and left. As is not unusual, the car was still covered in the pinky-purple goo they use for protection in shipping, so I asked the guy who would be the principal operator to get the gunk washed off and the vehicle cleaned up. An hour later I went back to see how he was doing – nothing had happened. I asked him why and he replied, can’t do that; got a bad back. So I told him I was not interested in his physical condition and to get the damned thing cleaned up. Another hour later – and still nothing had happened, so I told him that if he was incapable of simply cleaning it, he was also incapable of operating it and sacked him on the spot. The boss was not amused, but accepted my decision and we promoted up a younger member from the pool. I really am a hard-hearted barsteward, but the other fellows go the message and we had no further problems.

    {I really do wish we could use simple words like dr*ve, dr*ver and c*r; it would make life so much easier on here}.

  535. 535
    gainfully employed says:

    what a lazy fecker !
    no wonder this scumbag had been unemployed for 6-7 years.
    turn down a job, lose yoru dole !

  536. 536
    Wunsa Pona-Thyme says:

    As we used to mumble when we were kids: Ladies – sitting on a gold mine….

  537. 537
    Bliar Witch Project says:

    Perhaps politician problem can be solved by all inclusive trips to Tehran:

    http://www.mojahedin.org/pagesen/detailsNews.aspx?newsid=22598

  538. 538
    common sense not common purpose says:

    Exactly. Which little shite would have tried to loot a business if he thought Mr. Shop owner would put a 9mm slug right between his eyes.

  539. 539
  540. 540
    Union Watch says:

    Utter bastards:

  541. 541
    Retro Watch says:

    Music which reminds one of better times and our Iron Lady

  542. 542
    One pound fish man says:

    One pound fish ..very very nice. Visa ran out..very very nice.

  543. 543
    HMMM says:

    You could take a leaf out of his book machine, learn to be more concise in your comments in future.

  544. 544
    HMMM says:

    May they live in interesting times?.

  545. 545
    albacore says:

    There’s no excuse for a killer to shirk
    Join the NHS and get down to work
    Roll up your sleeves and get killing away
    The best of it is: there’s no price to pay
    Bumping people off is no longer sinister
    It’s been approved by a government minister

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255054/60-000-patients-death-pathway-told-minister-says-controversial-end-life-plan-fantastic.html

  546. 546
    Wunsa Pona-Thyme says:

    CP – yes. Remember those big hairy Sikhs standing guard over their premises during the riots with large heavy pick axe handles. Their shops were not touched at all.

  547. 547
    lojolondon says:

    I can tell you that Julia Hartley-Brewer isn’t going to have much of a career in the Communist Biased-BBC – no lovey-dovey socialist message coming from her, she will be lucky to hold onto her job!

    Of course she is totally, 100% correct!

  548. 548
    Wunsa Pona-Thyme says:

    Jellyfish Rubbadinghi? Wasn’t he the one kicked out by Mugabe?

  549. 549
    lojolondon says:

    I can tell you that Julia Hartley-Brewer will never have a career in the Biased-BBC – thank god LBC employs real, proper people with a job who reflect sensible views!

    Of course she is totally, 100% correct!

  550. 550
    Wunsa Pona-Thyme says:

    …also called ‘competences’.

  551. 551
    Wunsa Pona-Thyme says:

    .. and even then, millions don’t.

  552. 552
    Millions of happy Brit expats says:

    Well, dimwit, you should have listened to us. We have been shouting about doing this for the past 20 years.

  553. 553
    Daleks are not renowned for their literacy skills - and have never heard the word 'precis'. says:

    +100000000

  554. 554
    Daleks are not renowned for their literacy skills - and have never heard the word 'precis'. says:

    You will have to learn to post in French. Many of us will understand while others have the googly translator to hand.

  555. 555
    Daleks are not renowned for their literacy skills - and have never heard the word 'precis'. says:

    This was in response to BW above.

  556. 556
    John says:

    Someone needs to put Ed Miliband and Glenn McClusky on TV with that lazy motherfucker and justify thier political position.

    What an unbelievably lazy bastard.

  557. 557
    Anonymous says:

    “Naturaly some of these animals got the hump” – that is hilarious! Thanks!

  558. 558
    HellforLeather says:

    What a completely stupid comment from “Jimmy says”

    Mine comes from someone who sometimes comments here, and doesn’t claim benefits.

  559. 559
    HellforLeather says:

    Really stupid range of questions.

    Unemployed, or unemployed but fully paid up and not claiming benefits — and would like to work?

    Should you not have included that in a more honest list?

  560. 560
    2112 says:

    A bunch of privately-educated lefties engaging in a verbal circle-jerk.

  561. 561
    Vroomfrondel says:

    This call is such an obvious fake. However, I am not in the least bit surprised the right wing zealots have jumped on as yet another chance to give a kicking to every person unfortunate enough not have a job. Heaven forbid that rich bankers and others living on the backs of the poor should pay for own mistakes. No,it’s far easier to take every penny they can from the poor and to set the poor against the poorer.

  562. 562
    Whining Customer(coincidently never missed a morning lecture) says:

    Hey don’t like it don’t be an academic. Blame Labour. Unlike our forefathers we pay or take large loans for our education, makes us want to know what we get and get the full “student experience” so we’re encouraged to drink which means late starts for the vocal I’m afraid. And since the unprecedented changing of ex polys and sheer volume of universities there are loads of choices for the little fuckwits that shouldn’t be there and are purely going to get drunk.

  563. 563
    stewartedwards says:

    Well as an ex Tory party member, tax payer, and a current welfare claimant I am genuinely horrified at the caller.

    But I am equally horrified at how, and this is true, I made an effort, wrote some books, made a little cash, reported it correctly with evidince to the DWP, £35 of income. And what has happened so far I have lost £300 in benefit as it has been suspended while it gets looked at [and have been told that I might not see again]. OK to give the DWP its dues a form they subsequently sent me seems to have got lost in the post on the way back to them but I did complete it by return of post (and as soon as I called to find out why the benefit had not been paid went straight to the jobcentre and filled in another form – did you know that they cant accept a photocopy of a previous form even if it has got lost in the post)

    So at the moment, I got off my arse, earned a little money, reported it with evidence, and am being screwed for it. I trust that the DWP will sort it soon. I made my Tory MP aware.

    There are many things that the government could do to make welfare work better (and believe me when I tell you that there are some wierd things happening making the online computer systems not work properly at the moment but that is a separate tale) but making all benefit claimants out to be scroungers, and marginalising minorities is disgusting and proves that the lessons of the 1930s have not been learnt.

    I really and honestly do think that I could do a far better job of effectively reforming the welfare system and employability of people than our government has. And I wouldnt be marginalising vulnerable people in the process just like happened in the 1930s germany.

    I do have a lot of sympathy for what our government are trying to achieve, but repeating mistakes from the past , focusing on propoganda, marginalising minorities and vulnerable people (who all have voting families), really saddens me.

    Turning our nation around is doable, but you wont do it within a one parlimentary time frame, and as the lessons form the hare and the tortoise has been forgotten, I can only hope that our next government is more societaly mature.

    Cameron inpressed me in his frst few weeks of power, then it has gone downhill fast as his government has stumbled from one schoolboy error to another, hopefully he will one day impress me again, just as Lady Thatcher once did.

    Mind you I am hacked of at doing the right thing and being screwed for it.

  564. 564
    Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

    +1000

  565. 565
    Captain Birdseye says:

    who gives a …

  566. 566
    bbc our national .... says:

    you’d want paying to move to salford

  567. 567
    Geordieboy says:

    Today’s educationally challenged teachers don’t know that.

  568. 568
    gg says:

    Votes Labour no doubt

    lazy fucker

  569. 569
    Left wing mong spotter says:

    X a zillion that’s exactly what the labour leftie scumbags always do

  570. 570
    Left wing mong spotter says:

    He didn’t lie
    The treaty was ratified by Brown who sneaked through the back door after you guessed it, promising a referendum.

  571. 571
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    I see a lot of posts with the moniker ‘Anonymous’ here. What they (he, she,it) have in common is that they (he,she,it) are all c”unts.

  572. 572
    Anonymous says:

    Obvious fake call. Probably set up by Tory HQ.

  573. 573
    Margaret Moran says:

    Not meaning to be funny but Gotcha was in the Sun and so was Freddie Starr ate my Hampster and they were both true.

    Is baseless inference when my loudspeaker stops working?

  574. 574
    Shane says:

    His attitude is entirely consistent with how this under-class have been allowed to get away with it for too long. I would stop everything. In fact, I see no reason why the unemployed shouldn’t be picked up each morning by coach and bussed to a work-place and carry out graffiti cleaning or other jobs which otherwise would not get done. They’d soon realise that a job of any kind is likely to be better than the alternative. Let’s get tough with these work-shy scroungers.

  575. 575
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    We all know you are a c”unt. What’s more to know? You are on the wrong blog, c”unt – fuck off and be anonymous elsewhere.

  576. 576
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    People who are working class know how to phrase,’I don’t’. You were a reporter on a local rag [sic]? You are not even minimally literate.

    Fucking lifelong benefit parasite scumbag, more likely.

    You are a naive moron posting utter garbage H24 here and you should fuck off to Socialistworker.com or whatever it is called.

  577. 577
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    C’mon Guido, what the fuck is going on here? Gayboy mongs posting love letters to their rentboys.

  578. 578
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    You’re already in the hills, pal. I don’t think you are going to find your way back. Thankfully.

  579. 579
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    We could get immigrants to meander about the motorways scattering litter and then use other immigrants to wander about picking it up.

    Then we get reality TV to film it. I can’t see taxpayers losing money here.

  580. 580
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    Agreed. No genuine person would reveal commiting crime. If he used a cellphone he is easily traced.

  581. 581
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    Why do you not cut deep into one of your carotid arteries with a Stanley knife. Do not wait for the completion of your epic tome, ‘How I Lived As a Benefit Parasite and How You Can Prosper Too’.

  582. 582
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    You are fucking scum. You use a sockpuppet moniker and post insult and hate.

    Guido what the fuck is going on here. This clown is making a fool of you.

  583. 583
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    Sure your moniker shouldn’t be Radio Ga – Ga? Clueless, fucking idiot.

  584. 584
    CHQ - BrainsUpArse Dept says:

    A Tory doing a wind-up – Where would we find one bright enough?

  585. 585
    Lord Mooncrater says:

    You can’t you useless c”unt. Fucking illiterate mong clogging the blog with Labour party propaganda.

  586. 586
    Eric Joyce (Teen Fondler) says:

    So would I. Boaz.

  587. 587
    Dan says:

    Gosh it is easy riling the masses against the unemployed.

    I’d like to see that vacuous, poisonous bitch exhort equal levels of self-righteous indignation towards one particular mass of drug-fuelled anti-social tax-dodging parasites, living at the expensive of everyone else and costing the taxpayer a fortune:

    Bankers.

    Less we get distracted.

  588. 588
    Mr Quelch says:

    So right. Just out of interest I went into the local Job Centre Plus the other day to check on my dependents ( Me , I’m retired after 40 years on the treadmill). There seem to be two types : 1 – those desperate for a job , any job who are searching the boards & picking up the cards. 2 – those desperate not to have a job who hang around outside with their trophy dogs , smoking and drinking waiting to sign on. If I were (still) an employer I would not have any type 2’s within 10 miles of my business as anything not nailed down would be nicked and customers/clients frightened off. They have made themselves unemployable to any sane business person because of their drug /drink addictions and criminal records. Their place on the benefits gravy train is thus assured for life and I shall be paying for it for the rest of mine. I thank you. !!

  589. 589
    anaaaaaaarkyst says:

    1) There is no rational reason to “know” it is a fake

    2) No one has criticised the unemployed

    3) You are a typical deluded lefty twat

  590. 590
    anaaaaaaarkyst says:

    All power to you sir and happy new year.

  591. 591
    anaaaaaaarkyst says:

    Grow up

  592. 592
    Sylvio says:

    Should be :

    “I wonder whom he votes for ”

    now take your eyes off the Marks and Spencer advert and consider the grammar

    c#ntchops.

  593. 593
    Quantrill says:

    The government’s tax returns do not end with the single sale of a packet of fags, they reap tax from the makers of the fags, the employees, first through PAYE then from fuel duty etc etc. Get the picture, think about this. In most instances where benefits paid are breadline then the government recoups all of that payment within months if not weeks. The illusion that benefit payments cost the country and workers anything at all, is no more or less that that. An illusion. On the contrary, that same benefit money is actually keeping many of you in work.

    Before you slate me as a labour troll, think about this if you are capable. You are being lied to by the State regardless of which main party is in power. The message is always the same: cast the blame onto the workers and non workers alike, distract attention from the massive contracts handed out to the select band of businessess who are destroying this country and every other country in Europe.

  594. 594
    the poor bloody tax-payer says:

    i’m 63 and have no such memory

  595. 595
    HellforLeather says:

    I did not detect anything approaching vacuous, poisonous or self-righteous.

    What “particular mass of drug-fuelled” stuff were you on when you listened to that conversation

  596. 596
    HellforLeather says:

    How could one, even bright enough, find the time? Much more fun running up the national debt, ignoring uncontrolled illicit immigration, kow-towing to the EU etc.

  597. 597
    Anonymous says:

    It was me wot was on the radio wiv julier.

    The nice mista cameroon paid us £5 to ring up lcb and wind the fat bitch up… heehee!

  598. 598
    the poor bloody tax-payer says:

    are we sure this alleged idle geezer has got it wrong

    if – like accountants, quacktuaries, lawyers and (phoney) farmers he did get up pre-0800hrs and then toiled diligently and hard – he would cost the PBT even more and be just as unproductive

    they are all variations of the theme of parasitism

  599. 599
    Tony Blair says:

    Frankly, I wont get out of bed for less than £10k and Cherie wont for less than £20k

  600. 600
    Hardly-Screw Her says:

    Didn’t like the way Julia got on her high horse there. Sure, the caller was an idiot but the way she got extremely hoity-toity was quite revealing.

    I get her and Melinda Kite confused.

  601. 601
    ferdinand says:

    Unfortunately in pure economics terms the scrounger is right. If the customer (employer) is not willing to pay the price demanded then the seller(the scrounger) can refuse the offer.It goes wrong because the State then pays the scrounger for not working.

  602. 602
    Anonymous says:

    I’m a student and I get to work earlier than him

  603. 603
    SickOfScapegoating says:

    Ditto here…unemployed for first time ever at 52…was declaring earnings on B7 forms..building up a business, then got mandated illegally to attend a scummy centre with broken insecure computers. Lost a job worth £200 first week, then another worth £142 the next (but paid 60 days later) ….then had benefit suspended illegally…left for entire winter of 2011 with 0 income at all, and accrued debts for the first time in my entire life…transpires the jobcentre staff had been told to mandate as many as possible …willy nilly….and still managed to screw up my P60, despite being paid as a DWP service provider… at least the Nazis could handle paperwork…can’t fault them on that score. And its worth pointing out, that if you’ve worked continuous night shifts for a decade, it is almost impossible to break your sleep/wake cycle …I think there is a lack of appreciation of that …it would be impossible for MPs for example, to start working 9-5 like normal people, because most of them roll into work at lunchtime and bugger off home by 4 …

  604. 604
    Eric the Viking says:

    Actually, “your” is a possessive adjective; “yours” is the possessive pronoun…

  605. 605
    Caring Mary says:

    yeah, blame the bankers some more. Or the paedos. Or the Iranians. Don’t blame Labour though – it’s not their fault, because they care about those poor people.

  606. 606
    Timbo says:

    This guy has noting to do with the real terms 4% cut for strivers, jobseekers, carers and disabled people.

    He is denying the offer of the job, and the rules say that his Jobseekers Allowance can be stopped as a consequence.

    Them’s the rules and it is right that they are. It is also right to apply those rules if this case is correct.

    It is not right to use this person as an excuse to cut the real incomes of the decent majority at the same time as cutting taxes for the richest.

    Simples. Unless you’re a weirdo.

  607. 607
    Timbo says:

    Only if the state does not apply its own rules. The rule say his benefit should be stopped.

  608. 608
    Anonymous says:

    As someone who is involved in the benefits system professionally, I can tell this call is a hoax.

  609. 609
  610. 610
    Bill says:

    Did the caller have an Australian accent? You never know who is calling!!!

  611. 611
    Anonymous says:

    Did you also live in a cardboard box in middle t’road and eat gravel for breakfast? Or are you a Monty Python reject rather than the real thing?

  612. 612
    anonymous says:

    You do know how to find the name of the caller? And why the story was planted here before the debate today? Well worth it to get a well sourced story that you can mention in a debate in Parliament. Wonder who the caller actually was? Because you do know what is in Clerkenwell don’t you. Suckered once again.

  613. 613
    GordonFreeman says:

    ,i live alone,I click over 1400 quid a month including housing benefits, most of it gets spent on organic food, holidays ,cannabis and taxis, they think i hear voices,they think im a looper.
    They think too much methinks…
    why the hell would i sacrifice half my waking hours as a slave for?
    now that would make me a looper!
    ths gravy train has paid for me to see the world dudes!!!!

    or maybe i should get a nissan application form….
    LMFAO

    PimpDAsYsTeM

  614. 614
    superbong hero says:

    Good on you!
    well done!
    thats over 15,000 per year tax free fella!
    I for one am overjoyed that another human being found some way of squeezing some free money and abundence from this currupt box of eggs!

  615. 615
    None says:

    He’s right about the low wage part but not the 8am start.

    Why should he work for low wages? It’s a disgrace.


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