It was inevitable that sooner or later Americans would grow weary of Piers Morgan. It wasn’t so predictable that some 70,000 would actually go to the trouble of petitioning President Obama to have him deported.
On balance the only way Guido wants to see him back in Britain is to face charges, so he commends to you the counter Whitehouse petition, to keep Piers across the pond. He will of course be loving all the attention…
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Ed Balls stretches credulity by claiming he isn’t ambitious…
“I would love to be part of Ed’s Labour government but what I do next for me is not an all-consuming passion. I’m more bothered, in a personal sense, about getting to grade 8 piano by the time I’m 50.”
Ned Flanders – Clegg
Lisa Simpson – Natalie Bennett
Milhouse – Hilary Benn
Martin Prince – Andy Burnham
Edna Krabappel – Luciana Berger
Crazy Cat Lady – Glenda jackson
Comic book guy – John Prescott
Carl – Chucka
Lenny – Philip Hammond
Willie – Eric joyce
Poochie – Gordon Brown
Reverend Lovejoy – Tony Blair
Morgan put British soldiers’s lives at risk with fake stories. Please send him to your Holiday Csmp in Cuba
Or the Ryugyong Hotel in Pyongyang.
Keep Morgan in the US! He is a diplomatic disaster, Your not in fannying around London anymore Giles, you are playing with the big boys with guns. Send him to Thailand, to the ladyboys, MIseeex.
Piers – you are a disgrace. Try the tactic of keeping your cards close to your tits, you knobend.
I’ll have a pint of what he just had…barlord.
it’s on me Jezza.
Can I tell you a joke Jezza when this hamster went into a pub down our way? Anyways, I told him I met him years ago – but I suppose you know the rest….
Tell you what. When we deport him, we’ll make him walk back.
I would like to add Gordon Brown to your wish list Guido.
Will no one think of the gayers!
We try not to, Dave, but you keep ramming it down our throats.
Do get your priorities right – Blair put British Soldiers and the British Publics lives at risk and they still are at risk because of Blair. The ICC are a body of useless stooges, placemen and foul fools.
Can we not widen your list of undesirables to poofters, chavs and Southerners?
Sorry, sorry, sorry. I omitted Diane Abbott from my above.
and you can add Vazoline.
and add Prezza, Lord Archer to that.
Would it be easier if we just listed the people we don’t want to see the back of?
Sure would but 650 troughers would mak it quite long.
Brahams, they would get a lovely long holiday, nothing to do but lounge about with nothing to do, drinking and scoffing, I know, that’s what they do already but they will be doing it at someone elses’s expense
I have a little list!
I thought that British soldiers actually died because of his lies. British war graves were also desecrated and, for what it is worth, Muslim civilians also died in the disturbances caused by his lies.
Thing is, Morgan’s stories weren’t fake were they? The photos may have been faked but they were right in their essence – Iraqis were being tortured and in at least one instance beaten to death by Brit squaddies.
That does not mean Morgan is not a wrong ‘un, but even wrong ‘uns can be right.
If he was telling the truth, why did he have to fiddle the images?
is there any good reason why our troops are involved in foreign wars?
It’s their job.
It’s also the job of the government(principally the last Labour one although the present one is cutting back on Defence due to Brown busting the economy and country)to ensure that they are adequately equipped with equipment that is up to the mark and that they are not over committed…..all charges that Bliar still needs to answer…and whilst we’re at it where is the Chilcot Report ??
It’s mainly for Irasel and Izonism. They want the gullible west to get rid of the Mulsims for them so they can “inherit the earth” when they’ve finished killing each other.
He faked photos of allied troops urinating on iraqi prisoners . He should be in gitmo
He should be fucking hung for treachery after publishing those fake troop photos.
No wonder the smug bastard wants gun control in the U.S. He realises that he might get shot. Wouldn’t that be awful.
Wouldn’t that be awful?
Is there an echo in here?
echo in here?
For a second I thought you were talking about Tonee there. That would be so awful.
Do you mean Toynbee? She’d be gunned down as soon as she opened her self-righteous gob.
Waterboard this irrelevant mendacious attention seeker with fetid oysters and chablis laced with H2S04
He will have to come back at some point to face hacking charges from Sven and Ulrika and lying to Levenson.
This hunt should have gone to jail for insider trading years ago
I think the correct term for the place is gaol. Jail is what he deserves for whatever he has done in America.
“I think the correct term for the place is gaol”
It might have been in 1702 you fucking dullard.
Yankee go home
The pedants are revolting!
They should be in a dungeon!
Tought on the causes of pedants?
You tought you taw a puddy cat you fucking advocaat addicted imbecile.
That’s puddy TAT that he tot he taw.
Can this be the End of the Piers Show at last?
Breaking news! Piers Morgan has been offered a job in China. He is apparently going to report on the injustices of Chinese law. Well for about 3.5 seconds anyway. Hehehehehehehe
What kind of a name is “Piers” anyway? Is that like a Jetty or a harbour wall?
A mediaeval nickname for Peter; associated with a Middle-English allegorical text, “Piers Ploughman”. Quite appropriate for a man who is (A) getting himself into a deeper and deeper rut, and (B) ought to get a “ploughing” in the criminal justice system.
Anyone wanna “go get mediaeval on his ass”?
Yankee, you too should go home
In can be the name of a stucture that holds something up, like a motorway flyover.
Like it Tachy!
My popularity among gayboys is soaring. It is not too much to say that I am now a gay icon. This should be enough to see me home and dry at the next election as the leader of the Shirtlifters Coalition. I do not need the Tories any more.
The BBC doing their bit for the gay agenda last night by introducing into the Doctor Who script two female characters, one a human the other a lizard type alien, who stated that they were married to each other.
Also product placement by the BBC by showing people smoking indoors in the Mid Wives. How much were they paid by the tobacoo industry to put a doctor smoking in a surgery in the script. I realise that this is what happened in the 50′s but no point banning tobacco advertising and then allowing the state braodcaster to show it.
Arse banditry is for life, not just Christmas.
When will it become Compulsory?
They were also Dr Who’s Guardians!
I did like the idea of one word answers to avoid dishonesty. Maybe we could try that with Patton and the other useless UK institution trustees.
Dr. Who revealed himself as a socialist, twice saying, with distain ‘Victorian values…making a profit’.
Dr Who is a bore. Has been for ages.
Socialist values = Making a loss.
Things that make a loss disappear.
A marriage between a human and a lizard creature is surely advocating Bestiality !!
Xenoality?
I don’t think so, Paul McCartney married one recently.
Lizard fucking is just plain wrong.
But you can keep the tail as a momento
Thanks for the heads up.
Girl on girl is fine, but gay marriage is out.
This sounds like some sort of Zoo stuff though – was it set in Belgium ?
It’s “loosely”called period drama and as you rightly say most people inc midwives and doctors smoked….when I was a kid in the 50′s our local doctor always had a ciggy sticking out of his mouth when he made house calls inc when he was diagnosing the patient….in WW2 when my dad and his mates used to de-train anywhere in UK there was always local WRVS wagon dispensing tea and packets of “Woodbines”(fags) …..a case of if “Jerry” don’t get you now Lung Cancer will in 50 years ?? you cannot impose the mores and beliefs of the present on past behaviour …..the BBC and many other broadcasters/film makers also are good at giving their characters in period drama modern day attitudes which they would never have had at the time
Yes the 50′s when everyone smoked and that same generation lived into their ninetees..and yet today no smoking and everyone dying of cancer, or Alzeheimers in their 40′s.
Are the ‘Doctor Who’ scripts not straying into the realms of gayist bestiality, with this latest human/lizard arrangement?
Those gays are all lizards I tell you!
Eastenders had someone asking for a Heineken rather than using the word lager and another character stated that she used a specific brand of royal jelly.
Once upon a time they could not show Liverpool on Match of the Day because they had Hitachi written on their shirts.
Tsk!!!!
Deporting Piers for criticizing the 2nd amendment is a front to the first amendment, Piers is entitled to the same free speech and expression (under 1st amendment) as others in the Country!!!
Might have known you would quote the ‘Bill’ of Rights, K.T .
It is an affront you twat
Not quite buddy.
For non citizens: Kleindienst v. Mandel (1972)
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=408&invol=753
yankee wankee
if you don’t like free speech fuck off to North Korea
Piss off 8illy you little tit!
Well you’re right Bill but it would be good to have him back in UK having to answer for his time as editor and the truth about his role in phone hacking in a court of law!
Hope you’ve had a good Xmas.
Re Hacking: Lets have Rupee and Gordon in a criminal court one or BOTH of them has told lies on oath.
Plenty of the Sickest in SOCIETY are all having their ‘humble moments’ now it appears. Liars, Frauds, Chancers, Criminals, Cheats, Low-lifes etc… oh and from the top down it also appears … well, well, well!
Apparently, optimum force required is: 1100 ft lbs.
Or, divide 1100 by weight of prisoner in lbs, for an appropriate length of drop.
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html
Is that from a lamp post or a proper hangmans noose?
You can hang from whatever, just the length of the drop you need.
NB: The length will be in feet. If you use metric you will decapitate, messy.
Close… we revised it to a nice, round 1000 lbs in the 20th Century. Far too close to decapitation on every topping and the Prison Commissioners stepped in. Wouldn’t be right to kill them like the French did, dear boy!
Or you could always do it the good old Tehran way; a quick-enough jerk causes a basilar skull fracture and immediate loss of consciousness as the larynx is crushed, compromising the airway completely and causing a carotid sinus reflex reaction, shutting down the heart. Doubling up the rope, i.e. looping twice around the neck, will avoid any chance of slippage. In addition, placing the knot closer to the chin, i.e., towards the angle of the mandible, increases the likelihood of CSRR. Very little twitching, if any, will take place. Thus, there is no chance of decapitation, and the condemned is dead just as quickly as in an Albert-Pierrepont-style measured drop, without any chance of having got the length-for-weight function wrong.
Or, you could, if you wanted, “foul it up” by not pulling the condemned up fast enough, or you could incorrectly place the noose, “accidently,” in which case the condemned would do the Tyburn Jig…
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I think you mean ‘affront’ you fucking ignoramus!
Requires a comma after ‘affront’, but otherwise spot on.
No, it does not. Otherwise, close.
Oh yes it does
When in Rome…
Cameron warm up the toilet seat for me now, I need to empty my bowels.
Send rentboys!
How dare you, nothing like that ever went at eton.
maybe gordon and cape cod is a more accurate analogy.
The Province – of the Bumbandits. No wonder Brown noses it over there so much?
Who says Dave’s mincing doesn’t pay? Dave’s a vote winner!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9766316/Marriage-plans-make-Cameron-poll-favourite-amongst-gay-voters.html
When Homosexual MP’s like Conor Burns for instance do not represent the true opinions of his constituents – his representation is of lies more lies and duplicity.
The so called MSM are pushing the lie that polls are saying that the public are ok about Gay Marriage – THE BASTARDS ARE LYING – about the reality – citing polls by comserve! which are NO TRUE REPRESENTATION of the actuality. It’s Media Mongrels pushing their and their friends’ PROPAGANDA – Yet again. CurrentbumBandits all of em.
I thought that Burns had come out against gay marriage.
Then again, if he was going against the views of his Bournemouth constituents by coming out against it, then I can only repeat what I was told when I move there many years ago – “It’s called Bum-mouth for a reason”.
Brilliant Cameron has now got the support of 0.1% of the population, that will be really uesful at the next election.
Well done One term Dave; your back benchers in marginal seats are already plotting how to get rid of you
Not at all! gordon’s very close friend Piers should come home to face questions about his role in phone tapping!
He could join gordon’s special pyjama party pal , the red haired one, in court then!!
Ronald McDonald?
Ah ronald mcdonald – father of the corrupt labour party!
Ramsay MacDonald, but, as they both were clowns, it’s a natural mistake.
But did Ramsay McDonald do burgers for fat fuckers like Watson?
Nell – there are some out there who know all about “Unlawful Killing” – and just who’s been banning what – but more importantly for what reason?
Surely that’s more signatures than he has viewers?
Of course, if Pughe is going to stay in the States, someone will have to hire him once he gets the sack at CNN. Are there any plans to bring back Bozo the Clown?
http://www.infinitydish.com/tvblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bozo.jpg
What piers needs to boost his popularity in the USA is an interview with the prophet saint bliar and a judicial shot showing saint bliar’s bodyguards, paid for by us the taxpayer, sporting their scorpion thingummy jig machine g un s.
piers and labour will be well in with the N R A then!!
The NRA need to intelligence up of the commie marxist zio loony tune ists in their every own government and judicature – thats when them guns will come in useful.
I wouldn’t have thought that they would use the Skorpion. Too innaccurate and too high a rate of fire with a very small magazine. They probably use a version of the H & K MP5, but I am happy to be corrected.
They shouldnt be using anything to protect that faggot Miranda, ironic the ordinary man cant have a g u n to protect his family from criminals but a criminal can have them to protect himself from ordinary men (who may want to arrest him for war crimes). Everything is upside down, lies become truth, evil is good ..you get my drift.
And can you imagine telling your family that you get paid to protect a cockroach like Charles Lynton?.. bet they get real job satisfaction eh?
Today we lost a REAL genius in Gerry Anderson, rest in peace. Why do the good go and the dross stay?
to write and comment here on this blog
yet these puppets are not as cool as his
‘Fire Flash makes an emergeny landing’ – probably the most exciting thing I have ever seen in my entire life.
‘Fire Flash – lift port wing… LIFT PORT WING!!’
RIP Gerry – what a genius.
Thanks F A B.
Not bad for 1963, is it?
yes sir …special effects never got better
other than on radio
#imagination
#tryingtofakeperfectlytherealneverworksandisafolly
#impressionism
S.H.A.D.O.W. might have something to say about that,
and Joe 90, francias,
A much more interesting and inspiring activity than watching most of the rest of the TV, which for the record, was particularly dull on the 20th July 1969, the day of the moon landings: this was in Australia, where they took place in the daytime and were, from a young child’s point of view, mainly very boring as there was a great deal of waiting around for not very much action at all.
I do however remember, as a result, the exact date when I was inspired by Mr Anderson to take the straps off the top of my roller skates and glide dangerously (for a five year old) down a sloping path down the side of our house, my arse on one of the roller skates and my feet on the others, to collapse, unlike the Fire Flash in a heap where the path ran out and the lawn began.
Thunderbirds was brilliant.
Memory is a strange thing. They were my sister’s roller skates.
Yes F A B , but I was seven in ’69. nut I never went down – never knew then the movement, until I was about twenty , with that young lady… but never mind about. Jane Merrow might be able to tell you, as with here,
If Ed Bishop was still alive, he would no doubt still have a headache from that pot.
I still remember the 1960′s well, wind in my hair in that Triumph Herald convertable of my next door’s mate uncle, when I was six.
Bugger it, F A B , some more Jane Merrow here, with Ollie Reed, Michael Winner directing, in Torquay, Torbay,
’64.
5…..
4….
3…
2..
1.
yea baby you are go
RIP
live forever in our imaginations
XXX
Go{o}d blesss
Col. Virginia Lake (Wanda Ventham) in UFO.
Every time I saw her my wrist action got harder and faster!
you dirty beast – always Lieutenant Gay for me – a right shower of sperm she was for me.
we give humble thanks
F.A.B. in-deed
perhaps only they could keep piers at bay
supermarionation marionette madness sublime
genius is not a big enough word and cliche
legacy limited generic trap
empty
but visionary?
oh yes
ps
dont panic
no insult here
we realize this is what you feel
words and memes is tricky
Paker?
Yes m’Lady
Parker, take off my dress.
Yes m’Lady
Parker, take off my bra
Yes m’Lady
Parker, take off my knickers
Yes m’Lady
Parker…
Yes, m’Lady…
Parker, you must never wear my closthes again
Parker?
Yes, me’ lady?
When is Clifff Richard coming on?
I believe just now, me’lady.
Cliff had sex with Sue Barker? give me a rest
Sue Barker was one hot babe but I think it was a joke when they rang Capital Radio after a party. The DJ was very sharp added 4 plus 6 came up with 21 and lost control of his mouth. I was on a night shift that night, but cant think who the DJ was 30 plus years ago?
Never mind who was the DJ on Capital Radio thirty years agom what we want truely to know, does Cliff pot the brown, with the lads?
But it is obvious, since he has never had any ladies scratching his eyes out, nor selling stories, nor saying he’s an eunuch, ey?
Anyway, his boyfriend lives with him – that one, yes, that one.
Sharpe, with the blonde mullet? Tall long streak of piss he was.
@Fist my own arse – this geezer?
http://www.thebreaker.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/pat-sharp.jpg
And Cliff and Olivia Neutron-Bomb was another dead end for them both. But it was platonic – they both have opposite dead ends, rumour has it….
Thanks for that. A blast from the past, cheered me up no end.
no probs.
seems a little unfair to demand any country take him or he return to blighty.
can we petition for special rendition him to go iran;
he has similar standards and methods.
if not,
can NASA send him to venus as he would fcuk up mars
ok
its too hot even for his devilish shoes upon the surface
but lets be like the russians were upon earth
first to orbit a dog round venus
Nope we definitely want him back in the UK to appe@r before leveson and then to appe@r in court over phone hacking!
This personal pal of gordon’s and staunch labour supporter has questions to answer!!
i think we can try him in his absence
and why fuss over such niceties as would not bother him anyway
he would only get off like that faking mad tory expences queen
oh the irony
DLA fakers and all that
if he did get a sentence it wouldnt be as tuff as a venus mission to infinity and beyond
‘mad expenses queen’ ? do you mean moran or uddin?!
whats her face
u kno
lady with top corrupt claim
recently managed to be sentenced without being sentenced
smart ruling class rule for some and not all
ah yes….maggie was her name i believe
… mor{e r}an her game perahaps
apologies she ‘former labour’ officially i believe
but acts as if tory privileged
answer questions
pffffff
you deluded fool
like any of them do
especially him
dont give the guy the air of publicity
his face makes my tv explode
mainly with
with the brickbats the people throw at it
and as for leveson and courts
a load of toffy tosh ruling class drewl!
Why on earth hasn’t anyone though about doing this for Bliar or Brown as well ?
Throw the lot of them into Libya, ignore the phone and let the common purpose parasites feed on them.
Morgan is but yet another stooge front for the firm.
hegemony everywhere agreed
but which firm of all of them are you pointing at
or is he freelancer hoe?
and would you argue against destroying the front
every time it pops up like a rat in any form
sure get the root if you can
but i dont think this blog bothers with that brother?
Just had Bubble and Squeak with yesterdays Turkey all very working class, but nice, none the less…….
OWEN! I am getting sick of this politics malarky.
Apart from anything else, you’re not even working class. You have been brought up in a nice middle-class household by me and your father and you have had a perfectly normal and comfortable upbringing.
Now will you please stop all this lefty claptrap and carry out your chores, which might I remind you includes:-
- tidy your room [not done now for the last three days!!!];
- empty the dustbin [or don't they need dustbins in socialist utopias!];
- do your homework.
Any more excuses, and you’ll be having your bottom smacked young man!
[Bubble and Squeak were the family's hamsters]
They may be hamsters, but they still taste nice.
I just want to say to all you pinko-commie-socialist Brits that I support Piers Morganhouse because he is SUCCESS, like me.
The problem with you all you losers is that you lack my SUCCESS.
If you were as SUCCESSFUL as myself and Piers, you wouldn’t have this problem.
All I can say is that if you want to share in my SUCCESS you need to enrol in Trump University right now on my Introduction to Multi-Level Marketing course.
Those who do not follow this advice are losers and will never be SUCCESSFUL like me and will always live in the British commie island socialist hell hole.
your bunker better be deep laddy
cuz you aint
and if social break down you create kicks fully off
i dont think your balls will be only in the rough and green
correct i ain’t deep
but you are, the reverse variety aka peed.
see you think it is okay cos of the virgin mary who was married but hadn’t had sex with her husband cos she was a child which was the way back then to marry very young but god impregnated her thus that makes god a peed.
so you demonize peeds in an attempt to kill god whilst acting in private like god yourselves.
oh can yae no help a brother out?
dirty filthy godless satanic lowlife scumbags the lot of you.
the only social breakdown going on is the one you bastards are instigating. the sexualizing of of children via the media, the tearing apart of the family unit via feminism and capitalism, globalization, manufactured wars. you think you control the world via your network of lodges, but you don’t. we are the destroyer of worlds. we have the ability to control icbm’s. we can render them useless, we can divert them at will. we can do a while big bunch of things with them.
we also have undetectable surveillance capabilities which operate in dimensions you have no ability to be amongst. we can switch officers in and out of these areas at will, instant hits, if and when required. all you will see is a zap of electricity and that’s it- d.e.a.t.h.
it’s is only our benevolence that is, thus far, stopping that zapping from happening. but if you want that situation to change by all means call our bluff- we’re knock out a few top boys from your fetid twisted tree.
we can and will if need be out you peeds by putting evidence (albeit) of a censored for decency nature that we have covertly collected from your lodges, from elsewhere and evidence we have filmed and photographed ourselves from the dimensions of the beyond.
so by all means try and drive my balls into the rough- you will not succeed, you shall just get zapped and we will laugh as you slowly unravel in a manner that suits our agenda.
we are coming for you. you are finished. we are going to enjoy your demise. we are watching you squirm. we are ready. we are the pilgrims.
ps
cuz
ouk
laddy
we never seen em in the fair way laddy
watch we dont kick em there
mirror/correct your cheat
aye for an aye
laddy
It’s an ill wind, the noo, d’ye ken, laddie.
Och aye.
We would not recommend people to view the max farquar blog on the illegality of the telly tax.
Really, we do not advise any one look at the max farquar blog at all. Keep looking at the telly, not around the telly, only at the telly…
Can I just thanks Mr. Donald Trump (see above) for that eulogy and impress upon you all the importance of signing the petition.
you better ask for space in his bunker wee laddy{ette}
your name is on the list
Ilon Rady cult figure for the Japanese.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20695206
FREI ABER TOT!
Song for Piers Morgan – I am wotsit you known, ummm, what the word, pre something. Premonitionisc?
KEEP TO THE RIGHT, brits, when you’re there….
And yes Piers, Jamaica does seem a good idea, but I advise Montreal – you can speak french after all, mon ami,
Say hello to my cousins while you are there, Piers et LA engleesh chat/pussy.
Piers Morgan Faces Deportation… But Jeremy Clarkson Pleads ‘Don’t Send Him Back’
http://www.prisonplanet.com/piers-morgan-faces-deportation-but-jeremy-clarkson-pleads-dont-send-him-back.html
Morgan should be sent on a manned mission to Jupiter. One way.
venus – read post ABOVE bro
JUPITER WOULD DO
BUT REQUIRES FAR TOO MUCH FUEL
austerity and all that
Someone please tell Sir Paul always talking out of turn – yeur not supposed to give out comment or yeur damned opinions when you’re a currently serving wigmeister Colerdige – to – shut the “F UP” and gewt back into his child abusing crypt.
It took us 40 years to get rid of him!
Bit ironic that the thing they want to deport him for is the only time he’s ever talked any bloody sense!!
+100
thaaaaaaaaat’s FREE aaaaaaaaamericccccca
for ya
land of the mostly free range headless chickens
NRA
ra ra ra
Er Right…
So you think Mohamad Mohamad Jihad Bang-Shoe imports himself here and starts hectoring people to remove thier rights to things you actually like, and it’s different.
If I arrived in Norway and said women shouldn’t be allowed rights because men owned them, how long would I be allowed to stay?
This is The Bill of Rights, it’s not even the governments role to decide to remove Americans right to self defence from threats.
You got it in one.
If Piers was not talking about absolute rights, but rather just the law, he could be ignored.
But, not only was he attacking our absolute rights, but blatantly used a school massacre for ratings, was d*mned rude in the worst way to a number of guests, and to cap it off, asked for an amendment to be made to the Bible in order to get gay marriage through.
There is a saying about titties on a boar hog, and this guy is one of those titties.
Night Sweeties . Off to YouTube to listen to Elkie Brookes!
Enjoy the rest of Xmas!!
x
xxx
and the same to you
Piers Morgan, Jezza Clarkson, David Dimbers, and that twat Nicolas Whiiichaaaall, the roayal correspondent with his fannying extended beeb vowels, I would exportation export to the new world, on a chain gang, to Melbourne, to live with these sorts,
Sorry Ozzies, you have just got to have them, we have had enough of them.
And let James May rule the Top Gear tribe, even if when suggested and directed to him, he says “oh dear – arse!”, and “oh fuck – where’s my pint of real brit ale” and “thanks – fucking ‘ell governer”,
Is this the forum for Labrador Breeders?
I am searching for information regarding Mr Kippling Christmas Fingers
You are on the right site – all sorts on here, even gives advice how to grow mushy peas in pots.
Madness!
Madness is the way to sanity, friend.
there are two madnesses
good and bad
but sanity is not an option
it is a delusion
Gordon has made a nice poo painting of a windmill on the fridge door
mother has made me a fine sandwich, filled wih tasty needles, but we must eat it, otherwise mummy will get nasty…
mother you locked me under the stairs and fed me pins
[proud] Humanity.
My London firm for last year, heard they are doing well, until certain firms in the world give them an offer they cannot refuse,
Suppose as a venture capitalist backing them I will coin it if they do.
oops, capitalist faux pas – they are called Wear Chemistry. Buy their teeshirts, and shit, why don’t you.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Are you listening Dave ?
New ICM polling for the Guardian points to sizeable victory for those wanting to leave EU if there was a referendum pic.twitter.com/Lb7AyJOh
And all three (2 really now) main parties are for the vote loser. Show’s you how cheaply we are sold.
We are believing things reported in the Guradian now?
The 36% figure to definitely leave the EUSSR did seem a little low.
Didn’t their staff go on strike to save their jobs ?
“Now then, now then, as it happens we’ve got a letter from ten-year-old Piers Pughe-Morgan in South Chailey, who writes in and says, ‘Dear Jimmy: I want a Red Ryder B-B Gun, but everybody keeps telling me I’ll shoot my eye out! Can Jim fix it for me to get one?’ They’re only looking out for your safety, lad– I know a young gent in Kirkcaldy who shot HIS eye out, and let me tell you, he’s a miserable piece o’ work; wouldn’t want you ending up like him, would we? But Jim can do the next best thing, and that’s to get you one of those new-fangled telephone answering machine thingumbobs whose manufacturers have bunged me for a plug on my show. I’m sure you can have a lot of fun with something like that, eh lad?”
Is Thatcher dead yet?
No, but you clearly are: from the neck upwards. KARMA.
I’ll second that Joss,clearly No 113 needs to seek medical attention,what a DISGRACEFUL STATEMENT,and no I am not of any political views,I just believe in humanity rather than that persons crass statement.
Sadly, nop. She is hanging on, as all those types do, to bother us as much as possible.
She doesn’t know what day it is for gawd sakes. Somebody shhot her, to put what is left of her mind out of it’s misery.
She needs shooting like an old dog, that is past it’s use, torys.
christ, what a nutter, ey? and I had ti live through the best times of my twenties with that cow about, playing her incidious games. And she was a norman puppet, to the masons about her. Stoooopid cow!
Lefties lack the common decency gene.
Underlined by the shameful attacks on Sir Patrick Moore in The Guardian after he died last month.
Barely any British lefties are actually English so you would expect them to lack English qualities.
Look at that most evil of characters hobswan (sp?) who that other foreigner miliband fawned over.
The truth is that the “old” Labour Party-the party of the British working class, died a long time ago. We now have an informal coalition of public sector workers, Guardianistas, welfare claimants and immigrants. Together they make up a considerable number and will be back in power very shortly so God help the rest of us who pay swingeing taxes to support them.
They are not very polite people, are they? They lack the common decencies. Presumably it’s their privileged upbringings. Most lefties I have ever met can’t get on with the rest of their fellow countrymen, who they know surprisingly little about.
They are not very polite people, are they? They lack the common decencies. Presumably it’s their privileged upbringings. Most lefties I have ever met can’t get on with the rest of their fellow countrymen, who they know surprisingly little about. No empathy.
look away, don’t look into the eyes, the eyes, of the witch thatch
Hey Geology…what the heck is your problem? Do you seriously think that Michael Foot and the rest of the loonie leftist commies who were around at the time would’ve been able to achieve even 10% of what Thatcher did? She took the UK, which at the time was the laughing stock of the world with sick industries dragging it out down the drain & militant trade unions trying their damndest to cripple the nation, and turned it into a powerhouse that was the envy of the world. I was in the UK in 1979, so I know firsthand what a shithole it was then. She did more for this country than any single fuckwit Labour moron ever could. Ungrateful scum like you who try to re-write history with misinformation & lies should be sent to North Korea to be able to enjoy the world you deserve. You hypocrites talk about soaking the rich & feeding the poor when all you really want to do is perpetuate the cycle of dependancy whereby people abdicate their self-reliance & self-determination to the Labour Party who then “re-distribute” wealth as they see fit, all the time lining their own pockets and getting richer richer whilst simultaneously pretending to be “for the people”. You represent either the militant marxists within Labour unions or the liberal elite who pontificate from within their multi-million homes in Islington & Hampstead….and somehow you claim to represent the majority of the country, and claim that the Tories are out of touch?? The bloody audacity of it all. You had 13 years worth of incompetence & sheer fuckwitted-ness; you have no right to even speak about Thatcher and what she did or didn’t do. Your complete ineptitude should prohibit you from even being abe to voice your poisonous anti-aspiration message of socialism!
Basically, what I was saying, generally, to get to the point, without fannying around, at the end of the day, when all is said and done, when the cows have come home, is the Thatch was always nuts. Better men than me has described her always as such.
And yes, I am Geology from yesterday, by the way.
and she pissed north sea oil receipts up the wall with her poll tax and political gerrymandering – forgot to mention that.
And gave us record tramps on the roads, and on the underground stations – ten pence for a cup of tea mister.
Coluld go on all day here.
My unerring judgement in appointing Chris Patten to be Chairman of the BBC has been borne out by his magnificent performance during the recent crisis.
Can someone explain how people going shopping is headline news? It’s the same every boxing day. Lots of people go shopping, and Sky and BBC news run it all day as their lead story.
You can send the most junior inexperienced reporters to cover the ‘story’ while the rest of the staff just follow the same old formula from the year before withiout having to think.
To 119
I call it the lazy news,gazing at a laptop all day long they just repeat/repeat /repeat the bullshite.
24/7 news is a disaster and they need to latch onto whatever to keep it going and in a job.
Did’nt go shopping today because I don’t want to be one of the brainwashed sheeple.
All the very best for the coming year to you and yours.
Regards.
WTF ?!
Well, it’s either Elizabeth Land or Guantanamo at this rate. Venus has been suggested over Mars, as he may mess Mars up.
I think it’s time for a British Space program and for it to suggest Piers Moron to be the first man to walk on the Sun.
bare foot?
Without sunglasses
For the third time this year Sir Paul – Mister Justice Coleridge has – when he is STILL a serving judge come into the public domain to overtly express his opinions on the issue of marriage.
Serving judges ARE NOT supposed to publicly express their opinions – the daily Mail won’t even point this out [they were warned several months ago] because they are suborned and gutless – Isn’t that right Mr Simpson [letters Editor] and Mr Dacre …
So how come the MP’s and Judges claim publicly to be independent of one another – when they clearly ARE NOT and as for the daily M huh?
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Serving judges ARE NOT supposed to publicly express their opinions – the daily Mail won’t even point this out [they were warned several months ago] because they are suborned and gutless – Isn’t that right Mr Simpson [letters Editor] and Mr Dacre?
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So how come the MP’s and Judges claim publicly to be independent of one another – when they clearly ARE NOT and as for the daily M huh?
To understand the relationship between law and policy, why not ask Tony Blair and Margaret Hodge what was discussed with Henry Hodge whenever he and his wife had dinner together while he was ostensibly a member of our independent judiciary in charge of immigration appeals.
Is this a judicial tyranny – where the wigs are the last but one body protecting the highest of the high infant abusers?
Stop pretending, you want me back, don’t you ??
No.
Reblogged this on Letter to America.
Here are a few extracts from a PBC transcript. If one doesn’t see the connection between Thatcher’s revolution in the 80s, “Trotskyism” (The Left Opposition, or “Infantile Disorder”) i.e. Neoconservativism and Murdoch, it’s probably best to start with Murdoch’s “bag-man’s book on Neoconservativism, i.e t hat edited by Irwin Stelzer which has chapters by Blair and Thatcher and others suspects. Still, it looks to me like most people in the UK are quite happy with all this, so maybe its a case of just deserts? The Washington Post drew out the history of the Neoconservatives and Trotsky long before the second Iraq war, but some never learn. Most people can’t discriminate very well. They think discrimination (intelligence) is bad behaviour in fact. Don’t think, it’s rude!
Just remember, the Left Opposition were ANARCHISTS. They wanted the state to wither away. That is why the Russians purged them. That is why the Americans hated the Russians, many of their relatives had been ousted by the Soviets. Those that stayed became “dissidents”, Many of those that left went to USA and helped the rise of the Neocons. Unless one sees this a lot of world politics makes no sense. The vilification of “communists” by “Trostkyities” in the USA is quite invidious. It’s a form of feminine-brained identity politics aka psychological warfare.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/programs/transcripts/1404.html
If British anarchists are so anti-state,why do they live on state funded benefits?
Who says they do? There are very few real anarchists in Britain, but those I know of work for a living
Few anachists in Britland? You’re talking to the wrong people pal – my name is, is, well that is a secret of course, to us brit anachists.
I’m a Tudor by the way, and grow red with white petals roses. I am a hardcore anachist/gardener. Cheers, thanks for listening to me.
Song for my friends, in my back garden, chirp out as guard dogs when strangers appear,
I hope they pay tax to keep the whole system going.
They probably do not earn enough, though, of course, 20% VAT, which the government even levies on food these days, will be unavoidable.
By the way, Geology, your inability to even spell ‘anarchist’ suggests to me you know bugger all about these matters.
An Icepick – a defunition of a true anachist is that he can’t spell.
let me know when you want rifle and explosives training, up in the hills, spare part VICHY!
Bollocks. Anarchists are not ignorant people. They read , beleive in education and above all think.
You are a Yankee fraud. Fuck off back to your fantasy world.
Agreed, Ice Pick.
Anarchists are labelled ignorant by those who do not understand them and whose hubris will not allow this lack of understanding to be acknowledged. Moreover, most are mis-classified, as despite rhetoric they still follow basic rules.
What those who label erroneously miss is that life itself, arguably the highest form of order of which we know, is born of anarchy.
A few simple rules are obeyed and order emerges.
Dynamic chaotic systems find points of equilibrium, but will inexorably evolve. Pinning the butterfly will kill the beauty and prove as erroneous as declaring the end of history itself.
@icethick “beleive in education and above all think”
Shame you can’t spell “believe” then you thick lefty wanker
That’ll be an irony failure if ever their was one. Your labels are tright.
Icepick – tip for you pal, spell anachist as such – keeps the trawling Cheltenham listeners away, and giving you attention. And yes, I am Geology from yesterday – yes another tip, change your handle often.
So nudge-nudge wink-wink to you Icepick. And I wasn’t here, alright? : )
Those people that camped outside St Pauls were not the anarchists. Remember anarchism means without rules. The real anarchism exists in the form of political system we have in the West. It is primarily the promotion of deregulation for big business. It’s the anarchists that are currently in power. Just who are living on the biggest benefits? Is it David Cameron or Ed Miliban, or Doreen (‘s Story) ….or perhaps the likes of Chris Patten and the hundreds of BBC executives aho have recently received massive payoffs (as reported in today’s DT)?
Therein lays part of the dialectic trap, which is why no one wants to take the benefits away despite what is said about those who are nicely dependent on them. Economics though will eventually defeat political will though.
We had a flavour of where this could go during the ri0ts the other year, that is not quite the anarchy needed but may be unavoidably on the way.
A few blacks nicking trainers and value pack rice will not fuel your revolution you marxist gayboy
It probably will fuel a revolution, but it certainly won’t be mine.
Incidentally, am not Marxist, the m0niker is meant in irony.
Carpe diem proponere amici.
Someone should petition that Sally B’ercow comes back to Twitter.
Not the same without her dulcet chirps.
Addicts feed on supply. She has classic identity disorder characteristics. Don’t encourage her or you’ll just get ever more inane, claptrap tweeting.
Do you feed on supply?
Her chirping had certain therpeutic qualities, like textual low brow whale song: An oceanic Bieber of the Twitter sphere is no more.
Now its gone, its like a void is filling with meaningful stuff, thoughts, creativity, ideas. This is a brave new world being entered, a unique genus now extinct.
You are right, one should be strong.
I’m still here sweetie – and there’s no-one in here at the moment – so it’s all yours to fill as you wish – interested?
Let’s compromise and meet the Americans halfway on this.
China it is then!
King’s Trough?
Tristan da Cunha.
Not half way, but out of harms way.
Tristan da Cunha – is he not Mandelson’s bum chum?
A better idea would for Obama to send Morgan to Guantanamo Bay. Water boarding would be good for Morgan.
oh yes, that is so original.
Send him around to me, and I would give that arse hunt a good attitude adjustment not to be so teenager dramatic, and teach him us brits don’t go around the world like this ol’ boy, we have subbtler methods, that made Britland great.
You’re a clown Piers, pure and simple.
Piers off Morgan.
Have a look at the following two links and give a little thought to some of the ubiquitous statistics which keep popping up as to who buys luxurious flats, football teams, and is massively over-represented in the most wealthy percentage in the USA and EU, and yet…….make political and financial capital out of campaigning as members of an alleged persecuted minority drawing on other allegedly oppressed groups (non whites, females and gays) as fellow victims. Who are they victims of? Is the agenda not the removal of the status quo under the subterfuge that here is something oppressive or repressive about the state? How often does one read about “institutional racism” in the police or even our schools which justify trips and celebratory days to teach people to behave differently?
Is it not erosion of the regulative status quo which is the target? At the same time, ask yourself how many people you actually meet who you would say are prone to any such “hate speech”, and what forensic evidence there is for any of these allegedly frequent mass killings let alone hate crimes.
Might it not be that such campaigns are in fact just cleverly contrived political programmes to secure self-advancement at the expense of others and to subvert regulations which might otherwise thwart such opportunism? Might it be an egregious creation of a fictitious bogeyman which facilitates *positive* discrimination based on fear?
How else is one to explain the marked discrepancy between measures of success and all of the allegations of hate-speech and discrimination?. If a group found this “activism” worked in their interests (i.e. in terms of economic advancement) would it not recruit “activists” driven by “market-forces”?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12261501
http://standuptohate.blogspot.com/2011/01/liverpool-event-remembers-holocaust-and.html
Is this absolutely impossible? Where are the reliable figures for this alleged “hate speech”? We even read these days of it being “unconscious”, that is, there being no manifestation of it at all. How irrational is that? Policies based on the non existence of something.
The AR-15 Bushmaster is what started all this off:
http://www.bushmaster.com/index.asp
It is a ‘military styled semi-automatic rifle’, which Moron said would be banned. Spooked people, so most places are now sold out.
This is not an assault rifle, it is not automatic either, and in most states only the 10 capacity magazine is legal in the thing, and you do need to be FBI checked to get one legally.
Let’s just hope that those folk who picked this baby up realize what exactly they were buying into. Moron has probably contributed immensely to the gun accident stats for next year.
The NRA to the best of my knowledge do not recommend this type of weapon for the average owner. Semi-automatic rifles are legal in Canada with similar restrictions on magazine size.
Moron needs to get with the program fast, before he does get the boot.
I have heard Alastair Campbell is cumming in his pants with this thread on Guido, and I should know, since I am one of his best mates online, Ehtch.
JEEZUUUZ, does he not like Piers Morgan.
Campbell shouldn’t rest too easy
I’m watching his back.
Do yoy fancy him being an H of Cee MP? Could be quite interesting. Think he would do a better job than that “here today, gone tomorrow” Mandy arse breath?
Peter Mandleson – but he is a pouffter, left and let Ali Cee take all the Iraq flack.
Why don’t you go and find an American site to talk to yourself on?
Get real – “mates”…………..with duplicious Cambell —— snakes don’t have mates.
Oh dear you lad, you have a lot to learn.
Anyone seen that One Pound Fish guy recently? I loaned him some quid.
send em home baggin;’
OH FUCK! just got it now, even what with I posted above – Gerry has fucking snuffed it. At times I need a frying pan hit on my head i am so numbnuts. Hero of my life he is – see, did it again – was.
Ah well, life moves on, song for Gerry,
and Gerry, since I know you had the moves, on the dance dish of life,
Captain Scarlet – jeezuz Gerry??? Doesn’t anything kill the fucking bugger?
zzzzzzzzzzzzz
He’s gay and a taffy, how sad.
Yes, you are right, I am welsh, and am happy with it, englishperson.
‘We will destroy the City of London’.
We’re planning to do exactly that.
Well you did – nothing left of Cable Street when you finished, you nazzie tory german nutters,
Get Real Guido! You are normally so good at this. 70,000 out of a population of some 350m is not really significant….
It is >76000 now – Agree as a % small, but remember, most of those who voted probably are armed and maybe a bit pi$$ed.
It is an established fact that 1% of human populations are sociopath.
I would be concerned if it was my name at the top of this petition, and maybe would be considering the plus points of a disguise and trip to Canada.
When old folks die and when ask, I come out with the same thing as my drandad said when he got olkd – “he stopped breathing”, or “she as in nit Gerry’s case. My grandad stopped breathing, one day. That is how it goes.
More UFO here Gerry, confetti A-OK, towards the otherside of our lives, we live,
When old folks die and when ask, I come out with the same thing as my grandad said when he got old – “he stopped breathing”, or “she”, as in Gerry’s case. My grandad stopped breathing, one day. That is how it goes.
More UFO here Gerry, confetti A-OK, towards the otherside of our lives, we live,
Hope Sylvia is alright – they were the Burton and Taylor of marionation. Sylvia is 85 now – pushing on.
More Suzanna Neve here from ’68, if anyone is interested – click for next part, when asked,
Pity you didn’t stub the little fucker out!
There is a lot to be learned from this tweet:
‘@AnnCoulter If Americans never had guns, we’d still be British … and forced to listen to ass-hats like @piersmorgan = agenda but no clue’
And if schiff hadn’t been born we wouldn’t have this fucking banking debt crisis.
Can we get back to who killed Diana? I rekon it was LJ Scott-Baker ‘with a little help from his friends and fellowes’.
Nah! – it was an ac-cedent – what wiv the mussos an all.
i SAY YOU JOLLY CHAPS!! D’YA SEE HOW RIGHT I AM TER PUSH FER KWEER MARRYAGE AND NOT BOTHER WIV FOX ‘UNTING!
tONE WAS SO RIGHT!!!!
aCTUALLY, – i JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW i’M A COMPLETE AND UTTER ARSEHOLE – JUST LIKE tONE AND gORDO
D’YA KNOW I’M IN LURVE WIV TONE – I JUS WANNA LICK HIS ARSE FER EVER AN EVER!
The capitals are annoying
he/she is pissed/stoned. humour him/her
How would you know that?
could give a fuck if a sparrow married a goat in my local church – it’s all a state controlled hypocrisy. What the fuck is “marriage” in the first place, for god sakes.
The legal union of a man and a woman recognized after due notice and proscribed form, by the deemed consent of the community (members of whom have an individual right to object, by lawful means) and state, before their agreed witnesses, as indissoluble other than by due legal processes, determining the existence and content not merely their own rights and legal identities viz a viz each other but also in relation to their family, friends, local community (a legal marriage is a public act), and the population of the world at the time of the marriage and into the future, until death.
yah yah yah – do birds marry before they shag and lay eggs? Do cows ask before they get imaculatly inseminated “shouldn’t I be married to that bull’s specimen first”?
It’s all human mankind bollocks. Ban marriage I say, and get it all over and done with. We are living in a 100% total hypocritical society, wher priests shag children, people in power don’t pay their taxes, and kiddies get starved in Britain.
As I said, if a hedgehog wanted to marry a squirrel, I wouldn’t bat an eyelid.
For a person who likes to post a lot, you do not have very much which is interesting to say.
Never mind the quality, feel the length.
John Blurtall – nice one. Most sense said towards me.
(yes, I am Geology etc.., but in a new name for todays work… )
Marriage is not completely state controlled.
Church and state separated.
State only controls the civil bit, which winds up not getting you tax breaks and costing lots during divorce.
Church guides the spiritual and real side of the union which some would have us believe is no longer important, but actually is the only bit which is important.
The attempted usurping of Cannon law is a statist wet dream come true. Other than the implications for family and society, the attack on religion and belief must be stopped.
not state controlled??? we have got a right one here vicar.
Grow up, of course it is you silly sausage.
Church backs state wars, doesn’t it? Hypocrits – wall to wall hypocrits. If you religious sort we anything but cowards, you should have all joined the resistance in France against the devil nazzies, but no – what did you do? Yes, make up some cowardly lame excuse that “we have to be here to look after the people’s souls”, or some cowardly gobshite like that.
Yes, as you are taught, you sorts, don’t argue against someone with something you will never win, and move your cowardly arse on.
The Pope in Musollini’s Italy? Jezzuuuz wept! Killing jews in Spain in the sixteenth century! European religion – you disgrace me, for what it’s worth!
rubbish – state controlled religion is the height of hypocrisy.
My solution to myself that I have found, is that I have found my own personal relgion, as Jesus Christ. And it is mine, and in this selfish world I have been brought up in around, I will not get on a soap box about to expouse.
Anyway, I might end up on a cross, after all. Roman Judea amd Tory England – what is the difference, ey?
Dude – re-read carefully, and do a little checking around.
The state most certainly does not control religion, and the institution of marriage is not completely under the control of the state.
This is reflected in the difference between civil / cannon law elements of what is entered into: The civil part is predated significantly by common law in the UK. The institution of marriage itself transcends nation states and even the notion of state.
Those who wish to impose a full total state need to nix religion and bring it under full state control / abolish, as happened in the USSR. This is what needs to be stopped.
The gay marriage issue is the multi-function horse of Troy that has been wheeled in for this purpose. It needs to be wheeled out before the people settle down for the night.
Don’t “dude” me friend – the state religion isn’t a religion, it is state bleeding control. There is no need for state churches, just governments and that is it. And if a person wants to follow his own church of the crows, he should be on the same plain as one who follows a bloke from Judea, if only in name.
Anyway, these are the main churches, even now,
Ok: @Geology is a real science, rocks last longer
Check and you will find that in the UK there is no state religion.
The Church of England is an Established religion which is different.
It is not controlled by the state, the monarch is the head but the Archbishop of Canterbury in practice runs the Church. Note also that even the monarch is under God.
The Anglican communion world wide is somewhat large, and encompasses the Episcopalian diocese in North America (which whom there is schism at present), and communions across Latin America, Africa and Asia. It is a global affair.
There is a need for churches as the state can only cater for the rational side of humanity. Religion is man’s expression of the irrational. The state for instance cannot offer spiritual guidance when life throws an event at you such as the death of a loved one, or offer true authority on a matter such as holy matrimony.
A person can follow their own church of crows, but such a following would be either sect or cult until a significant corpus has developed, and the institution itself met certain criteria. There are North American belief systems which do find faith in animalistic deities, so if this is your preference there is nothing to stop you from learning the teachings and following.
Incidentally: The state cannot and should not be able to dictate your religious beliefs. One wonders if those who put down Jedi on the UK census were being truthful or not, but the state cannot interfere with this aspect of their lives in any case.
If your preference is agnosticism, this is cool, but think carefully before thinking along the statist line and answering that you believe in atheism
(I don’t call into question your beliefs myself, except what you said about governments are all that is needed.)
The state regulates property rights and arbitrates in disputes which result from civil status issues, especially where children are involved and particularly after the death of one of the parties. The predictability of the resolution of such issues is an important considerate for many people who are parties to marriage, but also for dependants and third parties who interact with people who are married or who have rights and interests connected, affected or constrained as a result of interacting with a married person.
Bollocks! Pop Larking and Ma Larking weren’t marriend, and they had a fine pride of kidies, without all this nonsense.
Larriage is a blank cheque for solicitors – it is self-perpetuating for them law makers, like a closed loop gravy train going out of control. Can’t you see it?
People get together, have kids – they may stay together, but if not, so? The state is a spannerhead, makes things well too complicated these days. Started off as a good idea, but it is state control that has gone well out of control.
Yes – which is tied up with all the legal fiction that the state attaches to both people, and people who enter into a civil marriage contract.
The interference of the state in the realm of children is controversial. Particularly in the UK, where the state has taken on a distinctly predatory stance with respect to separating children from their biological parents. This is very shaky under common and natural law, and to my mind is a regressive mutation of what was originally intended.
The state acts under the authority of legal statutes which were originally extended from common law principals, and are set by Parliament. (Ignoring the EU fiction that has to be put up with now)
The Church and State are mutually separate.
The attachments of property rights and other legal fictions into marriage is not the purvey of the church you correctly indicate.
When the actual meaning of marriage is considered though, such attachments can be seen to be subtly subversive and in practice destructive to the institution.
Further dissolution of the core meaning by extending the practice into the realm of abomination will be the final coup de grace.
@Geology is a real science, rocks last longer
- Usually I do not agree with your posts – but you have made a very good point here. You are pointing to the common law approach and ‘non-official’ form of marriage, albeit a fictional one.
I do not wish to mis-interpret @With benefits, but the line of reasoning presented there sounds much more North American oriented than UK.
The system of law and understanding of marriage is slightly different over there – a fine cultural difference – but people everywhere still enter into marriage for common reasons:
1) In order to form a stable family unit for rearing their young, 2) for gaining acceptance and status within society as being husband and wife, and 3) ultimately because the two who are wed wish to form a spiritual bond that only death can break, and which can only truly exist between man and woman.
(And many believe that bond will last beyond death.)
CONTRACT! oh give me rest lord please!
Emotional contract ok yes, but why has law come into it? It should have nothing to do with law. As I said, and am repeating myself like a fecking parrot, people come together, then they part if they have to. And leave it there. If law wasn’t involved, fathers would see their children more often, on average. Law is the bastard, not kiddies.
Conrol Watch 2:45am
Don’t think you have got the point I was making. Let all children be born out of so called wedlock, let all couples live in sin. But register fathersand mothers of children, but don’t put the yoke of state around them as a couple. With inheritence, that is what written personal wills are for, you silly sod.
Hate the US republican and UK Tory crap totally insincere spoutings on family life. It is crap of self-deluded highest fantasy corrosion.
@Geology is a real science, rocks last longer (Not sure if to myself)
- I did not say contract anywhere in the above two. Bond is not contract, especially a spiritual bond.
To your point fully agree. Under common / natural law, the intrusion of third parties, especially the state, in the affairs of a family is really not permitted. This is important as all statutory law has to be compatible with common / natural law.
The intrusions you mention are subversive actions implemented by the state in order to disrupt and destabilize the family unit. This was the flanking maneuver on marriage / family.
The Church has recognized this and is reacting now.
Until people wake up and force the state to change, then things will continue as is. Extension into the realm of the abominable unions is the next step in destruction.
Ultimately the state does desire taking control of children directly and removing unapproved parents from the upbringing equation completely.
It is a social engineering / eugenics thing.
@Geology is a real science, rocks last longer 3:06
I get your point. In the UK though, once a couple has been together for a while they automatically become man and wife under common law.
It is fine what you say. The only requirements for stable family unit are two committed and fertile people.
If they wish to enter union with the approval of a deity, that is their choice, and fully agree that all the other fiction piled on is corrosive.
Control Watch 3:10am
People have been doing it for years, not getting married and so called livin in sin, to lessen the controlling state in their lives. It is enough to pay taxes and all that. The less complication in life the better. Legal divorces make me laugh – good god, the state in real action, money for old rope for solicitors/lawyers, which could easily be sorted by just an extended family gathering, and a few punch ups, and quicker too.
Control Watch 3:13am
It is only common law if either wants to press the point. But yes, that is the incidious state for you – they should kep well out of it, outside a “legal” marriage. It is the state again exerting it’s control where it is not needed. Either of the two parties would know where they stand if they have not gone up some state controlled isle, State putting confusion into the matter again.
@Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:
The modern divorce process is a complete racket. That goes to the point I was trying to make above about ‘legal fiction’ the state likes to attach. Note that it is a fiction – which is completely to your point about the unreality / non essential nature.
The extended family issue you are correct on. I did attempt to explain that the state by attaching legal fiction has been working quite successfully to break this notion up.
(Please bear with me on the law bits below…)
The ‘punch ups’ etc. you suggest for sorting out disputes etc. is directly to the point I was making above about natural law. ie. My wife commits adultery, if I find the guy he gets a broken nose if that is my manner, or the wife gets slung out. This is natural law.
Society acting to soften this is fine – that evolved as common law. But to actively start working against the interests of the family as has happened under statutory law is completely unacceptable.
It is curious you state ‘living in sin’: The reason why is that your argument I read as man and woman living together as family and being faithful to each other is all that is required. I agree with you on that.
The reason the ‘sin’ statement is interesting though is that it implies that such an informal agreement is somehow amoral.
Now – I would not argue that it is, but the Church labelled unofficial marriages as ‘living in sin’ before society coined the term ‘common law marriage’, mainly to coerce people into entering church run marriages.
Both terms seem to imply that for the marriage to be valid it has to be recognized by an independent moral authority: Either the Church (hence God) or a Judge (as is technically the case in common law, and I refer to the original meaning of Judge not what we understand today)
This is interesting, as if the church is consumed by the state, the state itself is amoral, then what is the moral authority who can recognize a marriage ?
In this case withdrawing consent to all statutory law in relation to marriage is a morally correct thing to do as the only moral authority which has the power to recognize the marriage will then be the family itself, deferring if needed to the common law only.
Sorry for that sounding circular, but I think that this is.
Control Watch 3:39am
(yes, I am the same bloke, but with a new handle, for today)
Enjoyed our conversation early this morning, and you made excellent points, and me hopefully too.
Western capitalist world has got the state of marriage in a right mess, I think we can both conclude, And the various churches don’t help the matter at all, frankly. And politicians should keep well out of it, especially Georgie Porgie puddin’ and pie with his “for hardworking families everywhere” budgets bulshitel he comes out with hypocritically. He wouldn’t know hard work even if it smacked him square on the face, like a shovel or a cricket bat.
|I hadn’t realised it was a full moon tonight
Another Whitehouse Petition:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/send-piers-morgan-pluto-or-mars-it-may-help-ease-tensions-between-britain-and-america-help-advance/pWVCKvWS
Will help ease tensions between Britain and America? The list of issues to be resolved is a long one. Piers Morgan probably does not feature till about page 35.
In my recent years of botheing yanks on youtubby, they are coming around. My favorite line I used to say, “What do you call a yank with a passport? – A spy” (as in ceeaye ehh… jesus – you could spot them a mile off, usual in McDees, buying a burger and fries and poke.
God, made me laugh going toUS airbases in Britain – all little americas, with doctor pepper dispensing machines on every corner, foam bread hamburgers at every mess, and the yank gas guzzling cars groaning and bouncing past. Pathetic.
Why are you replying to yourself?, good conversation is it.
S’pose I should have started my reply to my other personality with “furthermore”, or, “also” or “and did I tell you” or “cont,” to myself.
And M & M’s too – they are fucking smarties you yank numbnuts, smarties!
Thank you Gerry Anderson for all the fun we had with your creations …..
Boxing day over , sale fever is occuring where people have got some spare cash or credit and the post spurt doom sayers have been on , now that some have woken up to E shopping is erm the tax equivalent of norovirus . PM Dave threatens to push through Gay marriage like a drunken binge rape, although the real story is altering the definition of marriage , which perhaps is what has got the judge into a tizz , nevermind the Archbishop Westminsters plea that Dave can hardly summon up the will to respond to. The new Archbishop of Canterbury gets off to a fine start , with a message of hope , yet only days before says he didnt really want the job , complain ohh me chill blains and lumabgo etc etc . The former Archbishop of Canterbury is still convinced women bishops has damaged the church , seeming to not notice the pile of casualities that the dispossed feel of their traditions , nor considering if declaration of we cannot have a church within a church , read from some pulpits before christmas,was offensive ….
Obama returns from Hawaii to try and sort out fiscal cliff , offering a round cocktails in fresh topped coconut shells , with an umbrella in , and garlands of flowers and a sort of were nearly there , hope changey thing just $600bn to sort out in the difference …… If only it was that simple …. It would seem apparent to me that the USA election failed to pin down the fiscal cliff problem properly in what the candidates were going to do , perhaps now they wish the candidates had been on the level about it …. before vote frenzy …
Nick Clegg having been threatend with being ousted , finds second wind on europe demanding we must stay in europe ….. Ok Nick heres yer starter for 10 , do you think the ECB knows the cost of further eurozone integration …. yes or no ??? logical sunsequent question must be , what is the sum then and will you resign if it is really just yet more borrowing from the people already broke for a number of years now …? France has just been told by IMF to ease on taxation …. yes but wont borrowing increase ?? Come on Nick this thing is one of the most dodgeiest motors ever sold , on yer partys lot , honest guv , came from from a bloke who only drove it to church on sundays , main dealer (De Estang motors) runs on other peoples taxes , its all Kosher mmm tasty .
The redifinition of marriage upsets me , but I just want to wait and see what the man with a 1st class honours degree in Economics from Oxford , does when hes at the EU budget round 2 , I suppose his whole team could slip off there jackets to reveal some worded T shirts when the chair is about to speak “your all a load of **ebs with all the accumen and carisma of a damp cloth” . Could just be that two birds with one shot outcome that Dave may be pining for . Equally we could all end up being sold off for more tax , if his pen and paper meet ……. Cant say I am all that bothered until budget meeting , you tell me , they let greece go bust via debt , there are no guarentees that they can stop the eurozone itself just being junk ..
I think I will just sit this one out until budget meeting murmerings can be assessed , goodness knows what alignments of the fates have in stall for making the worng call on this one ….
That’s the new Egyptian Constitution signed into law so the voters have well and truly f*cked themselves. Morsi promises economic progress but unless they find a lot of oil they’ll progress to completely failed state status like Pakistan and every other M*sl*m country that doesn’t have the black stuff aplenty to offset the drag of their culture.
When the punters soon realise that their lives are not improved they will of course look for someone to blame – Israel and the West.
Perhaps in a few hundred years they, and all the other failed M*sl*m states, will come to see what the common problem is.
Little Americas? Yes.
A while back I was invited to join some US service personnel friends at the base for an afternoon of bowling. On the gate was the usual cannon-fodder marine. He had to fill in a form for me before I was allowed entry.
“Name?”
“Fred Bloggs”
“Nationality?”
“English”
“Where you from?”
“London”
“Is that London, France?”
“No, it’s London, Ontario”.
“Oh, ok, sign here and then go right on in”
Must be something in that full moon theory after all, hopefully we will now be spared for a lunar cycle.
I am trying to avoid traffic hams
Please accept another monthly cheque for £5000, and get somebody to help you with filling your expenses claim forms out.
The only cure for you is prosciuttion for smuggling.
Attention all retired right wingers with nothing but time on their hands (and money) i.e all you saddos on here…
Pierce will return once Lord Blair is seated in power and he can join both Blair and Campbell at the top table, until then please STFU
I suppose being braindead and on benefits helps you to be a leftwing nut, most of the retirees on this blog are on holiday abroad having a well deserved Christmas break spending their OWN money on quality goods/food, I do hope you enjoyed your Christmas dinner supplied by a food bank, which the food was supplied with money spent by the same people.
Can’t actually see Bliar getting any honour in gift of the crown whilst HMQ is around and certainly Charles isn’t his biggest fan either…strange THAT as he was purportedly the man who saved the monarchy in 1997.
As for life peerage..I can’t see any future Labour leader recommending him let alone the honours commitee approving it
I would like to make 5,456 sincere and unequivocal apologies and clarifications about earlier pieces I wrote in relation to Lord Ashcroft, Virgin Care and the Guido Fawkes blog and its posters. My earlier writings used hyperbole in 2 cases, may have caused a false impression to be received in others in 2 cases, and was incorrect on the facts in 5,452 cases.
In fact, it would be quicker to state tha I failed to get anything right on any item I have ever blogged, written or spoken about.
I would also like to make apologies to my mother, my family and my friend
smost of which now claim never to have met or known me.Following a review of The Green Benches, I have decided that from now onwards each entry about Virgin Care or its services shall be thoroughly researched before it is posted on my blog to ensure the accuracy of any claims I make. As for all the others,
they will have to swingI realise I must be scrupulously careful to the same extent.Now please, please, pretty please, will you click my donate button as I have run out of funds, the buggers are suing the pants off me and all my former Labour friends and admirers have suddenly disappeared – just at the time I really needed them.
Thank you for reading this. Now focking click, yer mingy bastards!
Sorry but more important things like Xmas sales come first, try Labour lost a bit further down the virtual road.
The “One Pound Fish Singer” link up top’s a blinder
Never knew The Speccie was such a meat grinder
The ripe comments there ain’t arf blowing its organ
And what are we chewing over? That prat Morgan
Addendum
That link seems to have departed from here
Hope this one will make my woffling clear
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2012/12/one-pound-fish-singer-deported/
Newsflash….http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/26/voters-back-gay-marriage-poll
A poll conducted by the Granuid says 3 out of 5 people polled are in favour of g ay marriage. Who would have thunk it?
3 out of the 5 Grundian readers, possibly.
Not sure I believe those figures…Graun readers would be 5 out of 5
DOESNT MATTER
Not an issue that people will vote on ….Dave and co as ever getting tangled up in a none issue that hurts his standing…..keep up the bad work
AND….How many Guardian readers are gonna vote for “Dave” just cos’ he supports “Gay Marriage” ? Very few I would suggest. In the meantime his “core vote” continues to defect to UKIP
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2253517/More-half-Britons-vote-pull-EU-Euroscepticism-rocketed-just-decade.html
I can’t be arsed to try to stop mass immigration. I’m far too busy trying to get gay marriage onto the statute book. But we can turn it to our advantage like the Labour party. We’ll buy the immigrant vote by having a benefit free-for-all. Sometimes I’m so clever I even surprise myself.
All over the place as usual Guido
So you agree with the Neo Nuts NRA..or not.
The Yanks have found the quay to bringing Piers to justice.
“Quay” ? Is that Manchester Quays ?
That’s one place you’re likely to be promenading from pillar to post, certainly.
No doubt the odd listee from Burke’s Pierage can be found with their butt resting against a pile; I suggest you ask if they’ve paid their dam levy.
Science Fiction is ideal for delivering sugarcoated socialist utopias. ‘Advanced’ aliens often have collectivist values that send them into space. Baddies were typically militaristic and male.. Until ‘Alien’ came along.
Who says I should learn to keep my mouth shut?
The yanks need more Morgans about, I say. Right – I am off to catch a plane to Washington, to the sharp end, no messing with me yankies.
oops! Why am I in the north west of america?!?
Think I did a boo-boo – but these online flight booking sites are confusing, aren’t they?
can’t we meet the yanks in the middle on this one and drop the Hunt in the middle of the atlantic