December 26th, 2012

Petition the Whitehouse to Keep Piers in America

It was inevitable that sooner or later Americans would grow weary of Piers Morgan. It wasn’t so predictable that some 70,000 would actually go to the trouble of petitioning President Obama to have him deported.

On balance the only way Guido wants to see him back in Britain is to face charges, so he commends to you the counter Whitehouse petition, to keep Piers across the pond. He will of course be loving all the attention…

Hat-tip: Tim Worstall


350 Comments

  1. 1
    Richard Seargent says:

    Morgan put British soldiers’s lives at risk with fake stories. Please send him to your Holiday Csmp in Cuba

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    • 7
      Tachybaptus says:

      Or the Ryugyong Hotel in Pyongyang.

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      • 62
        Geology is a real science says:

        Keep Morgan in the US! He is a diplomatic disaster, Your not in fannying around London anymore Giles, you are playing with the big boys with guns. Send him to Thailand, to the ladyboys, MIseeex.

        Piers – you are a disgrace. Try the tactic of keeping your cards close to your tits, you knobend.

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    • 10
      Norah Virus says:

      I would like to add Gordon Brown to your wish list Guido.

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    • 24
      Butch Dave says:

      Will no one think of the gayers!

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    • 37
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Do get your priorities right – Blair put British Soldiers and the British Publics lives at risk and they still are at risk because of Blair. The ICC are a body of useless stooges, placemen and foul fools.

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    • 97
      Pat Rick. says:

      Can we not widen your list of undesirables to poofters, chavs and Southerners?

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    • 120
      Expat Geordie says:

      I thought that British soldiers actually died because of his lies. British war graves were also desecrated and, for what it is worth, Muslim civilians also died in the disturbances caused by his lies.

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    • 187
      Don't be scared to face the truth says:

      Thing is, Morgan’s stories weren’t fake were they? The photos may have been faked but they were right in their essence – Iraqis were being tortured and in at least one instance beaten to death by Brit squaddies.

      That does not mean Morgan is not a wrong ‘un, but even wrong ‘uns can be right.

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    • 201
      Anonymous says:

      is there any good reason why our troops are involved in foreign wars?

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      • 248
        Johnny Logic says:

        It’s their job.

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        • 282
          Muscular Intervention and the Third Way and other failed Bliar policies says:

          It’s also the job of the government(principally the last Labour one although the present one is cutting back on Defence due to Brown busting the economy and country)to ensure that they are adequately equipped with equipment that is up to the mark and that they are not over committed…..all charges that Bliar still needs to answer…and whilst we’re at it where is the Chilcot Report ??

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      • 298
        Anonymous says:

        It’s mainly for Irasel and Izonism. They want the gullible west to get rid of the Mulsims for them so they can “inherit the earth” when they’ve finished killing each other.

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    • 285
      Jo swinney says:

      He faked photos of allied troops urinating on iraqi prisoners . He should be in gitmo

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    • 343
      Gman says:

      He should be fucking hung for treachery after publishing those fake troop photos.

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  2. 2
    Col. Nut says:

    No wonder the smug bastard wants gun control in the U.S. He realises that he might get shot. Wouldn’t that be awful.

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  3. 4
    Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

    He will have to come back at some point to face hacking charges from Sven and Ulrika and lying to Levenson.

    This hunt should have gone to jail for insider trading years ago

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  4. 5
    Tachybaptus says:

    Can this be the End of the Piers Show at last?

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    • 60
      Huffy Auld Git says:

      Breaking news! Piers Morgan has been offered a job in China. He is apparently going to report on the injustices of Chinese law. Well for about 3.5 seconds anyway. Hehehehehehehe

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    • 183
      Anonymous says:

      What kind of a name is “Piers” anyway? Is that like a Jetty or a harbour wall?

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      • 207
        Your Friendly Neighbourhood Name Etymology Service says:

        A mediaeval nickname for Peter; associated with a Middle-English allegorical text, “Piers Ploughman”. Quite appropriate for a man who is (A) getting himself into a deeper and deeper rut, and (B) ought to get a “ploughing” in the criminal justice system.

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      • 309
        We live in hope says:

        In can be the name of a stucture that holds something up, like a motorway flyover.

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    • 280
      Lizzie says:

      Like it Tachy!

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  5. 6
    One Term Dave says:

    My popularity among gayboys is soaring. It is not too much to say that I am now a gay icon. This should be enough to see me home and dry at the next election as the leader of the Shirtlifters Coalition. I do not need the Tories any more.

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    • 13
      Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

      The BBC doing their bit for the gay agenda last night by introducing into the Doctor Who script two female characters, one a human the other a lizard type alien, who stated that they were married to each other.

      Also product placement by the BBC by showing people smoking indoors in the Mid Wives. How much were they paid by the tobacoo industry to put a doctor smoking in a surgery in the script. I realise that this is what happened in the 50’s but no point banning tobacco advertising and then allowing the state braodcaster to show it.

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      • 18
        Butch Dave says:

        Arse banditry is for life, not just Christmas.

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      • 50
        Anonymous says:

        They were also Dr Who’s Guardians!

        I did like the idea of one word answers to avoid dishonesty. Maybe we could try that with Patton and the other useless UK institution trustees.

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      • 91
        Next on the agenda says:

        A marriage between a human and a lizard creature is surely advocating Bestiality !!

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      • 227
        The BBC causes serious mental illness says:

        Thanks for the heads up.

        Girl on girl is fine, but gay marriage is out.

        This sounds like some sort of Zoo stuff though – was it set in Belgium ?

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      • 287
        It was how it was then says:

        It’s “loosely”called period drama and as you rightly say most people inc midwives and doctors smoked….when I was a kid in the 50’s our local doctor always had a ciggy sticking out of his mouth when he made house calls inc when he was diagnosing the patient….in WW2 when my dad and his mates used to de-train anywhere in UK there was always local WRVS wagon dispensing tea and packets of “Woodbines”(fags) …..a case of if “Jerry” don’t get you now Lung Cancer will in 50 years ?? you cannot impose the mores and beliefs of the present on past behaviour …..the BBC and many other broadcasters/film makers also are good at giving their characters in period drama modern day attitudes which they would never have had at the time

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        • 344
          Anonymous says:

          Yes the 50’s when everyone smoked and that same generation lived into their ninetees..and yet today no smoking and everyone dying of cancer, or Alzeheimers in their 40’s.

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      • 311
        Exterminate, Exterminate! says:

        Are the ‘Doctor Who’ scripts not straying into the realms of gayist bestiality, with this latest human/lizard arrangement?

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      • 319
        David Icke says:

        Those gays are all lizards I tell you!

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      • 347
        Dreg Gyke says:

        Eastenders had someone asking for a Heineken rather than using the word lager and another character stated that she used a specific brand of royal jelly.

        Once upon a time they could not show Liverpool on Match of the Day because they had Hitachi written on their shirts.

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  6. 8
    Kebab Time says:

    Tsk!!!!

    Deporting Piers for criticizing the 2nd amendment is a front to the first amendment, Piers is entitled to the same free speech and expression (under 1st amendment) as others in the Country!!!

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    • 11
      gramma says:

      Might have known you would quote the ‘Bill’ of Rights, K.T .

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    • 15
      US Watch says:

      Not quite buddy.

      For non citizens: Kleindienst v. Mandel (1972)

      http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=408&invol=753

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    • 25
      Anonymous Anonymous says:

      Piss off 8illy you little tit!

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    • 30
      8illy's Boxing Day capers says:

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    • 31
      nellnewman says:

      Well you’re right Bill but it would be good to have him back in UK having to answer for his time as editor and the truth about his role in phone hacking in a court of law!

      Hope you’ve had a good Xmas.

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      • 47
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Re Hacking: Lets have Rupee and Gordon in a criminal court one or BOTH of them has told lies on oath.

        Plenty of the Sickest in SOCIETY are all having their ‘humble moments’ now it appears. Liars, Frauds, Chancers, Criminals, Cheats, Low-lifes etc… oh and from the top down it also appears … well, well, well!

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        • 58
          Noose Watch says:

          Apparently, optimum force required is: 1100 ft lbs.

          Or, divide 1100 by weight of prisoner in lbs, for an appropriate length of drop.

          http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging2.html

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Is that from a lamp post or a proper hangmans noose?

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          • Noose Watch says:

            You can hang from whatever, just the length of the drop you need.

            NB: The length will be in feet. If you use metric you will decapitate, messy.

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          • PendanticHangman says:

            Close… we revised it to a nice, round 1000 lbs in the 20th Century. Far too close to decapitation on every topping and the Prison Commissioners stepped in. Wouldn’t be right to kill them like the French did, dear boy!

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          • Well, I'll Be Hanged! says:

            Or you could always do it the good old Tehran way; a quick-enough jerk causes a basilar skull fracture and immediate loss of consciousness as the larynx is crushed, compromising the airway completely and causing a carotid sinus reflex reaction, shutting down the heart. Doubling up the rope, i.e. looping twice around the neck, will avoid any chance of slippage. In addition, placing the knot closer to the chin, i.e., towards the angle of the mandible, increases the likelihood of CSRR. Very little twitching, if any, will take place. Thus, there is no chance of decapitation, and the condemned is dead just as quickly as in an Albert-Pierrepont-style measured drop, without any chance of having got the length-for-weight function wrong.

            Or, you could, if you wanted, “foul it up” by not pulling the condemned up fast enough, or you could incorrectly place the noose, “accidently,” in which case the condemned would do the Tyburn Jig…

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    • 105
      Perse O'Nally says:

      I think you mean ‘affront’ you fucking ignoramus!

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    • 345
      Anonymous says:

      When in Rome…

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  7. 9
    David Cameron was my fag at Eton says:

    Cameron warm up the toilet seat for me now, I need to empty my bowels.

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  8. 12
    nellnewman says:

    Not at all! gordon’s very close friend Piers should come home to face questions about his role in phone tapping!

    He could join gordon’s special pyjama party pal , the red haired one, in court then!!

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  9. 14
    Jess The Dog says:

    Surely that’s more signatures than he has viewers?

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  10. 17
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Of course, if Pughe is going to stay in the States, someone will have to hire him once he gets the sack at CNN. Are there any plans to bring back Bozo the Clown?

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  11. 19
    nellnewman says:

    What piers needs to boost his popularity in the USA is an interview with the prophet saint bliar and a judicial shot showing saint bliar’s bodyguards, paid for by us the taxpayer, sporting their scorpion thingummy jig machine g un s.

    piers and labour will be well in with the N R A then!!

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    • 56
      Blowing Whistles says:

      The NRA need to intelligence up of the commie marxist zio loony tune ists in their every own government and judicature – thats when them guns will come in useful.

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    • 128
      Expat Geordie says:

      I wouldn’t have thought that they would use the Skorpion. Too innaccurate and too high a rate of fire with a very small magazine. They probably use a version of the H & K MP5, but I am happy to be corrected.

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      • 346
        Anonymous says:

        They shouldnt be using anything to protect that faggot Miranda, ironic the ordinary man cant have a g u n to protect his family from criminals but a criminal can have them to protect himself from ordinary men (who may want to arrest him for war crimes). Everything is upside down, lies become truth, evil is good ..you get my drift.

        And can you imagine telling your family that you get paid to protect a cockroach like Charles Lynton?.. bet they get real job satisfaction eh?

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  12. 21
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Today we lost a REAL genius in Gerry Anderson, rest in peace. Why do the good go and the dross stay?

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    • 26
      cliche & irony must include us {doh} says:

      to write and comment here on this blog

      yet these puppets are not as cool as his

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    • 27
      Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

      ‘Fire Flash makes an emergeny landing’ – probably the most exciting thing I have ever seen in my entire life.

      ‘Fire Flash – lift port wing… LIFT PORT WING!!’

      RIP Gerry – what a genius.

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          Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

          Thanks F A B.

          Not bad for 1963, is it?

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          • all animators at puppeteers and musketeers says:

            yes sir …special effects never got better
            other than on radio :)
            #imagination
            #tryingtofakeperfectlytherealneverworksandisafolly
            #impressionism

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          • Geology is a real science says:

            S.H.A.D.O.W. might have something to say about that,

            and Joe 90, francias,

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          • F A B says:

            A much more interesting and inspiring activity than watching most of the rest of the TV, which for the record, was particularly dull on the 20th July 1969, the day of the moon landings: this was in Australia, where they took place in the daytime and were, from a young child’s point of view, mainly very boring as there was a great deal of waiting around for not very much action at all.

            I do however remember, as a result, the exact date when I was inspired by Mr Anderson to take the straps off the top of my roller skates and glide dangerously (for a five year old) down a sloping path down the side of our house, my arse on one of the roller skates and my feet on the others, to collapse, unlike the Fire Flash in a heap where the path ran out and the lawn began.

            Thunderbirds was brilliant.

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          • F A B says:

            Memory is a strange thing. They were my sister’s roller skates.

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          • Geology is a real science says:

            Yes F A B , but I was seven in ’69. nut I never went down – never knew then the movement, until I was about twenty , with that young lady… but never mind about. Jane Merrow might be able to tell you, as with here,

            If Ed Bishop was still alive, he would no doubt still have a headache from that pot.

            I still remember the 1960’s well, wind in my hair in that Triumph Herald convertable of my next door’s mate uncle, when I was six.

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          • Geology is a real science says:

            Bugger it, F A B , some more Jane Merrow here, with Ollie Reed, Michael Winner directing, in Torquay, Torbay,

            ’64.

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          all animators at puppeteers and musketeers says:

          :)
          5…..
          4….
          3…
          2..
          1.
          yea baby you are go
          RIP
          live forever in our imaginations
          XXX
          Go{o}d blesss

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          • I Fist my own Arse by Using my Own Head says:

            Col. Virginia Lake (Wanda Ventham) in UFO.

            Every time I saw her my wrist action got harder and faster!

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          • Geology is a real science says:

            you dirty beast – always Lieutenant Gay for me – a right shower of sperm she was for me.

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        • 65
          all animators at puppeteers and musketeers says:

          we give humble thanks :)
          F.A.B. in-deed
          perhaps only they could keep piers at bay

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      • 76
        all animators at puppeteers and musketeers says:

        supermarionation marionette madness sublime
        genius is not a big enough word and cliche
        legacy limited generic trap
        empty

        but visionary?
        oh yes

        ps
        dont panic
        no insult here
        we realize this is what you feel
        words and memes is tricky

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    • 100
      Even the jokes were better then says:

      Paker?
      Yes m’Lady
      Parker, take off my dress.
      Yes m’Lady
      Parker, take off my bra
      Yes m’Lady
      Parker, take off my knickers
      Yes m’Lady
      Parker…
      Yes, m’Lady…
      Parker, you must never wear my closthes again

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      • 157
        Geology is a real science says:

        Parker?

        Yes, me’ lady?

        When is Clifff Richard coming on?

        I believe just now, me’lady.

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        • 161
          Geology is a real science says:

          Cliff had sex with Sue Barker? give me a rest

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          • I Fist my own Arse by Using my Own Head says:

            Sue Barker was one hot babe but I think it was a joke when they rang Capital Radio after a party. The DJ was very sharp added 4 plus 6 came up with 21 and lost control of his mouth. I was on a night shift that night, but cant think who the DJ was 30 plus years ago?

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            Never mind who was the DJ on Capital Radio thirty years agom what we want truely to know, does Cliff pot the brown, with the lads?

            But it is obvious, since he has never had any ladies scratching his eyes out, nor selling stories, nor saying he’s an eunuch, ey?

            Anyway, his boyfriend lives with him – that one, yes, that one.

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            Sharpe, with the blonde mullet? Tall long streak of piss he was.

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            @Fist my own arse – this geezer?

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            And Cliff and Olivia Neutron-Bomb was another dead end for them both. But it was platonic – they both have opposite dead ends, rumour has it….

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        • 169
          I Fist my own Arse by Using my Own Head says:

          Thanks for that. A blast from the past, cheered me up no end.

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  13. 23
    star gazer says:

    seems a little unfair to demand any country take him or he return to blighty.
    can we petition for special rendition him to go iran;
    he has similar standards and methods.
    if not,
    can NASA send him to venus as he would fcuk up mars
    ok
    its too hot even for his devilish shoes upon the surface
    but lets be like the russians were upon earth
    first to orbit a dog round venus

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    • 28
      nellnewman says:

      Nope we definitely want him back in the UK to appe@r before leveson and then to appe@r in court over phone hacking!

      This personal pal of gordon’s and staunch labour supporter has questions to answer!!

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      • 33
        you must be 'avin a laugh says:

        i think we can try him in his absence
        and why fuss over such niceties as would not bother him anyway
        he would only get off like that faking mad tory expences queen
        oh the irony
        DLA fakers and all that

        if he did get a sentence it wouldnt be as tuff as a venus mission to infinity and beyond

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      • 36
        you must be 'avin a laugh says:

        answer questions
        pffffff
        you deluded fool :)
        like any of them do
        especially him

        dont give the guy the air of publicity
        his face makes my tv explode
        mainly with
        with the brickbats the people throw at it

        and as for leveson and courts
        a load of toffy tosh ruling class drewl!

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      • 45
        Brown Watch says:

        Why on earth hasn’t anyone though about doing this for Bliar or Brown as well ?

        Throw the lot of them into Libya, ignore the phone and let the common purpose parasites feed on them.

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    • 63
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Morgan is but yet another stooge front for the firm.

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      • 81
        the real sceptic says:

        hegemony everywhere agreed
        but which firm of all of them are you pointing at
        or is he freelancer hoe?

        and would you argue against destroying the front
        every time it pops up like a rat in any form
        sure get the root if you can
        but i dont think this blog bothers with that brother?

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  14. 35
    Owen Jones says:

    Just had Bubble and Squeak with yesterdays Turkey all very working class, but nice, none the less…….

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    • 43
      Owen's Mum says:

      OWEN! I am getting sick of this politics malarky.

      Apart from anything else, you’re not even working class. You have been brought up in a nice middle-class household by me and your father and you have had a perfectly normal and comfortable upbringing.

      Now will you please stop all this lefty claptrap and carry out your chores, which might I remind you includes:-

      – tidy your room [not done now for the last three days!!!];

      – empty the dustbin [or don’t they need dustbins in socialist utopias!];

      – do your homework.

      Any more excuses, and you’ll be having your bottom smacked young man!

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    • 44
      you must be 'avin a laugh says:

      :)

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  15. 40
    Donald Trump, Lord Golfcart of Aberdeen says:

    I just want to say to all you pinko-commie-socialist Brits that I support Piers Morganhouse because he is SUCCESS, like me.

    The problem with you all you losers is that you lack my SUCCESS.

    If you were as SUCCESSFUL as myself and Piers, you wouldn’t have this problem.

    All I can say is that if you want to share in my SUCCESS you need to enrol in Trump University right now on my Introduction to Multi-Level Marketing course.

    Those who do not follow this advice are losers and will never be SUCCESSFUL like me and will always live in the British commie island socialist hell hole.

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    • 52
      scottish farmer humble small holding made uk and usa great says:

      your bunker better be deep laddy
      cuz you aint
      and if social break down you create kicks fully off
      i dont think your balls will be only in the rough and green

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      • 209
        the hidden hand says:

        correct i ain’t deep

        but you are, the reverse variety aka peed.

        see you think it is okay cos of the virgin mary who was married but hadn’t had sex with her husband cos she was a child which was the way back then to marry very young but god impregnated her thus that makes god a peed.

        so you demonize peeds in an attempt to kill god whilst acting in private like god yourselves.

        oh can yae no help a brother out?

        dirty filthy godless satanic lowlife scumbags the lot of you.

        the only social breakdown going on is the one you bastards are instigating. the sexualizing of of children via the media, the tearing apart of the family unit via feminism and capitalism, globalization, manufactured wars. you think you control the world via your network of lodges, but you don’t. we are the destroyer of worlds. we have the ability to control icbm’s. we can render them useless, we can divert them at will. we can do a while big bunch of things with them.

        we also have undetectable surveillance capabilities which operate in dimensions you have no ability to be amongst. we can switch officers in and out of these areas at will, instant hits, if and when required. all you will see is a zap of electricity and that’s it- d.e.a.t.h.

        it’s is only our benevolence that is, thus far, stopping that zapping from happening. but if you want that situation to change by all means call our bluff- we’re knock out a few top boys from your fetid twisted tree.

        we can and will if need be out you peeds by putting evidence (albeit) of a censored for decency nature that we have covertly collected from your lodges, from elsewhere and evidence we have filmed and photographed ourselves from the dimensions of the beyond.

        so by all means try and drive my balls into the rough- you will not succeed, you shall just get zapped and we will laugh as you slowly unravel in a manner that suits our agenda.

        we are coming for you. you are finished. we are going to enjoy your demise. we are watching you squirm. we are ready. we are the pilgrims.

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    • 55
      scottish farmer humble small holding made uk and usa great says:

      ps
      cuz
      ouk
      laddy
      we never seen em in the fair way laddy
      watch we dont kick em there
      mirror/correct your cheat
      aye for an aye
      laddy

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  16. 41
    Bollocks Broadcasting Corporation says:

    We would not recommend people to view the max farquar blog on the illegality of the telly tax.

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    • 49
      Subversive Broadcasting Corporation says:

      Really, we do not advise any one look at the max farquar blog at all. Keep looking at the telly, not around the telly, only at the telly…

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  17. 46
    Piers Moron says:

    Can I just thanks Mr. Donald Trump (see above) for that eulogy and impress upon you all the importance of signing the petition.

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    • 53
      scottish farmer humble small holding made uk and usa great says:

      you better ask for space in his bunker wee laddy{ette}
      your name is on the list

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  18. 57
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Ilon Rady cult figure for the Japanese.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20695206

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  19. 66
    Newetown USA says:

    FREI ABER TOT!

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  20. 67
    Geology is a real science says:

    Song for Piers Morgan – I am wotsit you known, ummm, what the word, pre something. Premonitionisc?

    KEEP TO THE RIGHT, brits, when you’re there….

    And yes Piers, Jamaica does seem a good idea, but I advise Montreal – you can speak french after all, mon ami,

    Say hello to my cousins while you are there, Piers et LA engleesh chat/pussy.

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  21. 68
    Don't Send Him Back! says:

    Piers Morgan Faces Deportation… But Jeremy Clarkson Pleads ‘Don’t Send Him Back’

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/piers-morgan-faces-deportation-but-jeremy-clarkson-pleads-dont-send-him-back.html

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  22. 70
    Angry says:

    Morgan should be sent on a manned mission to Jupiter. One way.

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    • 82
      BLINK AND YOU MISS IT says:

      venus – read post ABOVE bro
      JUPITER WOULD DO
      BUT REQUIRES FAR TOO MUCH FUEL :)
      austerity and all that

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  23. 70
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Someone please tell Sir Paul always talking out of turn – yeur not supposed to give out comment or yeur damned opinions when you’re a currently serving wigmeister Colerdige – to – shut the “F UP” and gewt back into his child abusing crypt.

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  24. 72
    Jeremy Clarkson says:

    It took us 40 years to get rid of him!

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  25. 74
    Strolling Bones says:

    Bit ironic that the thing they want to deport him for is the only time he’s ever talked any bloody sense!!

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    • 79
      nellnewman says:

      +100

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    • 84
      BLINK AND YOU MISS IT says:

      thaaaaaaaaat’s FREE aaaaaaaaamericccccca
      for ya
      land of the mostly free range headless chickens
      NRA
      ra ra ra

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    • 109
      CarryHole is a complete Hunt says:

      Er Right…

      So you think Mohamad Mohamad Jihad Bang-Shoe imports himself here and starts hectoring people to remove thier rights to things you actually like, and it’s different.

      If I arrived in Norway and said women shouldn’t be allowed rights because men owned them, how long would I be allowed to stay?

      This is The Bill of Rights, it’s not even the governments role to decide to remove Americans right to self defence from threats.

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      • 208
        US Watch says:

        You got it in one.

        If Piers was not talking about absolute rights, but rather just the law, he could be ignored.

        But, not only was he attacking our absolute rights, but blatantly used a school massacre for ratings, was d*mned rude in the worst way to a number of guests, and to cap it off, asked for an amendment to be made to the Bible in order to get gay marriage through.

        There is a saying about titties on a boar hog, and this guy is one of those titties.

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  26. 80
    nellnewman says:

    Night Sweeties . Off to YouTube to listen to Elkie Brookes!

    Enjoy the rest of Xmas!! :)x

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  27. 83
    Geology is a real science says:

    Piers Morgan, Jezza Clarkson, David Dimbers, and that twat Nicolas Whiiichaaaall, the roayal correspondent with his fannying extended beeb vowels, I would exportation export to the new world, on a chain gang, to Melbourne, to live with these sorts,

    Sorry Ozzies, you have just got to have them, we have had enough of them.

    And let James May rule the Top Gear tribe, even if when suggested and directed to him, he says “oh dear – arse!”, and “oh fuck – where’s my pint of real brit ale” and “thanks – fucking ‘ell governer”,

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  28. 88
    Gordon Brown says:

    Is this the forum for Labrador Breeders?

    I am searching for information regarding Mr Kippling Christmas Fingers

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  29. 95
    Geology is a real science says:

    My London firm for last year, heard they are doing well, until certain firms in the world give them an offer they cannot refuse,

    Suppose as a venture capitalist backing them I will coin it if they do.

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  30. 102
    Bill Cash says:

    Are you listening Dave ?

    New ICM polling for the Guardian points to sizeable victory for those wanting to leave EU if there was a referendum pic.twitter.com/Lb7AyJOh

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  31. 114
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      Jim'll Fix It, circa 1975 says:

      “Now then, now then, as it happens we’ve got a letter from ten-year-old Piers Pughe-Morgan in South Chailey, who writes in and says, ‘Dear Jimmy: I want a Red Ryder B-B Gun, but everybody keeps telling me I’ll shoot my eye out! Can Jim fix it for me to get one?’ They’re only looking out for your safety, lad– I know a young gent in Kirkcaldy who shot HIS eye out, and let me tell you, he’s a miserable piece o’ work; wouldn’t want you ending up like him, would we? But Jim can do the next best thing, and that’s to get you one of those new-fangled telephone answering machine thingumbobs whose manufacturers have bunged me for a plug on my show. I’m sure you can have a lot of fun with something like that, eh lad?”

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  32. 115
    Maggie's Snatch says:

    Is Thatcher dead yet?

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    • 119
      Joss Ayinglike says:

      No, but you clearly are: from the neck upwards. KARMA.

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      • 132
        Saffron says:

        I’ll second that Joss,clearly No 113 needs to seek medical attention,what a DISGRACEFUL STATEMENT,and no I am not of any political views,I just believe in humanity rather than that persons crass statement.

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    • 142
      Geology is a real science says:

      Sadly, nop. She is hanging on, as all those types do, to bother us as much as possible.

      She doesn’t know what day it is for gawd sakes. Somebody shhot her, to put what is left of her mind out of it’s misery.

      She needs shooting like an old dog, that is past it’s use, torys.

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      • 144
        Geology is a real science says:

        christ, what a nutter, ey? and I had ti live through the best times of my twenties with that cow about, playing her incidious games. And she was a norman puppet, to the masons about her. Stoooopid cow!

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      • 145
        Anonymous says:

        Lefties lack the common decency gene.
        Underlined by the shameful attacks on Sir Patrick Moore in The Guardian after he died last month.

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        • 284
          Ultra says:

          Barely any British lefties are actually English so you would expect them to lack English qualities.

          Look at that most evil of characters hobswan (sp?) who that other foreigner miliband fawned over.

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          • bergen says:

            The truth is that the “old” Labour Party-the party of the British working class, died a long time ago. We now have an informal coalition of public sector workers, Guardianistas, welfare claimants and immigrants. Together they make up a considerable number and will be back in power very shortly so God help the rest of us who pay swingeing taxes to support them.

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      • 159
        An Icepick says:

        They are not very polite people, are they? They lack the common decencies. Presumably it’s their privileged upbringings. Most lefties I have ever met can’t get on with the rest of their fellow countrymen, who they know surprisingly little about.

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      • 160
        An Icepick says:

        They are not very polite people, are they? They lack the common decencies. Presumably it’s their privileged upbringings. Most lefties I have ever met can’t get on with the rest of their fellow countrymen, who they know surprisingly little about. No empathy.

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        • 238
          Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

          look away, don’t look into the eyes, the eyes, of the witch thatch

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          • MandyPickleSniffer says:

            Hey Geology…what the heck is your problem? Do you seriously think that Michael Foot and the rest of the loonie leftist commies who were around at the time would’ve been able to achieve even 10% of what Thatcher did? She took the UK, which at the time was the laughing stock of the world with sick industries dragging it out down the drain & militant trade unions trying their damndest to cripple the nation, and turned it into a powerhouse that was the envy of the world. I was in the UK in 1979, so I know firsthand what a shithole it was then. She did more for this country than any single fuckwit Labour moron ever could. Ungrateful scum like you who try to re-write history with misinformation & lies should be sent to North Korea to be able to enjoy the world you deserve. You hypocrites talk about soaking the rich & feeding the poor when all you really want to do is perpetuate the cycle of dependancy whereby people abdicate their self-reliance & self-determination to the Labour Party who then “re-distribute” wealth as they see fit, all the time lining their own pockets and getting richer richer whilst simultaneously pretending to be “for the people”. You represent either the militant marxists within Labour unions or the liberal elite who pontificate from within their multi-million homes in Islington & Hampstead….and somehow you claim to represent the majority of the country, and claim that the Tories are out of touch?? The bloody audacity of it all. You had 13 years worth of incompetence & sheer fuckwitted-ness; you have no right to even speak about Thatcher and what she did or didn’t do. Your complete ineptitude should prohibit you from even being abe to voice your poisonous anti-aspiration message of socialism!

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            Basically, what I was saying, generally, to get to the point, without fannying around, at the end of the day, when all is said and done, when the cows have come home, is the Thatch was always nuts. Better men than me has described her always as such.

            And yes, I am Geology from yesterday, by the way.

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            and she pissed north sea oil receipts up the wall with her poll tax and political gerrymandering – forgot to mention that.

            And gave us record tramps on the roads, and on the underground stations – ten pence for a cup of tea mister.

            Coluld go on all day here.

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  33. 117
    One Term Dave says:

    My unerring judgement in appointing Chris Patten to be Chairman of the BBC has been borne out by his magnificent performance during the recent crisis.

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  34. 121
    Public in boxing day shopping shock! says:

    Can someone explain how people going shopping is headline news? It’s the same every boxing day. Lots of people go shopping, and Sky and BBC news run it all day as their lead story.

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    • 124
      Easy lazy television says:

      You can send the most junior inexperienced reporters to cover the ‘story’ while the rest of the staff just follow the same old formula from the year before withiout having to think.

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    • 139
      Saffron says:

      To 119
      I call it the lazy news,gazing at a laptop all day long they just repeat/repeat /repeat the bullshite.
      24/7 news is a disaster and they need to latch onto whatever to keep it going and in a job.
      Did’nt go shopping today because I don’t want to be one of the brainwashed sheeple.
      All the very best for the coming year to you and yours.
      Regards.

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  35. 122
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    WTF ?!

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  36. 123
    Blowing Whistles says:

    For the third time this year Sir Paul – Mister Justice Coleridge has – when he is STILL a serving judge come into the public domain to overtly express his opinions on the issue of marriage.

    Serving judges ARE NOT supposed to publicly express their opinions – the daily Mail won’t even point this out [they were warned several months ago] because they are suborned and gutless – Isn’t that right Mr Simpson [letters Editor] and Mr Dacre …

    So how come the MP’s and Judges claim publicly to be independent of one another – when they clearly ARE NOT and as for the daily M huh?

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  37. 125
    Blowing Whistles says:

    paramooded2

    Serving judges ARE NOT supposed to publicly express their opinions – the daily Mail won’t even point this out [they were warned several months ago] because they are suborned and gutless – Isn’t that right Mr Simpson [letters Editor] and Mr Dacre?

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    • 127
      Blowing Whistles says:

      para3
      So how come the MP’s and Judges claim publicly to be independent of one another – when they clearly ARE NOT and as for the daily M huh?

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      • 137
        Worth a candle says:

        To understand the relationship between law and policy, why not ask Tony Blair and Margaret Hodge what was discussed with Henry Hodge whenever he and his wife had dinner together while he was ostensibly a member of our independent judiciary in charge of immigration appeals.

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  38. 129
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Is this a judicial tyranny – where the wigs are the last but one body protecting the highest of the high infant abusers?

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  39. 133
    Piss Organ says:

    Stop pretending, you want me back, don’t you ??

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    brown-dog says:

    Here are a few extracts from a PBC transcript. If one doesn’t see the connection between Thatcher’s revolution in the 80s, “Trotskyism” (The Left Opposition, or “Infantile Disorder”) i.e. Neoconservativism and Murdoch, it’s probably best to start with Murdoch’s “bag-man’s book on Neoconservativism, i.e t hat edited by Irwin Stelzer which has chapters by Blair and Thatcher and others suspects. Still, it looks to me like most people in the UK are quite happy with all this, so maybe its a case of just deserts? The Washington Post drew out the history of the Neoconservatives and Trotsky long before the second Iraq war, but some never learn. Most people can’t discriminate very well. They think discrimination (intelligence) is bad behaviour in fact. Don’t think, it’s rude!

    Just remember, the Left Opposition were ANARCHISTS. They wanted the state to wither away. That is why the Russians purged them. That is why the Americans hated the Russians, many of their relatives had been ousted by the Soviets. Those that stayed became “dissidents”, Many of those that left went to USA and helped the rise of the Neocons. Unless one sees this a lot of world politics makes no sense. The vilification of “communists” by “Trostkyities” in the USA is quite invidious. It’s a form of feminine-brained identity politics aka psychological warfare.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/programs/transcripts/1404.html

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    • 149
      the stench of hypocrisy says:

      If British anarchists are so anti-state,why do they live on state funded benefits?

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      • 154
        An Icepick says:

        Who says they do? There are very few real anarchists in Britain, but those I know of work for a living

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        • 163
          Geology is a real science says:

          Few anachists in Britland? You’re talking to the wrong people pal – my name is, is, well that is a secret of course, to us brit anachists.

          I’m a Tudor by the way, and grow red with white petals roses. I am a hardcore anachist/gardener. Cheers, thanks for listening to me.

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        • 166
          nemo says:

          I hope they pay tax to keep the whole system going.

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          • An Icepick says:

            They probably do not earn enough, though, of course, 20% VAT, which the government even levies on food these days, will be unavoidable.

            By the way, Geology, your inability to even spell ‘anarchist’ suggests to me you know bugger all about these matters.

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          • Geology is a real science says:

            An Icepick – a defunition of a true anachist is that he can’t spell.

            let me know when you want rifle and explosives training, up in the hills, spare part VICHY!

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          • Icepick says:

            Bollocks. Anarchists are not ignorant people. They read , beleive in education and above all think.

            You are a Yankee fraud. Fuck off back to your fantasy world.

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          • Deep Thought says:

            Agreed, Ice Pick.

            Anarchists are labelled ignorant by those who do not understand them and whose hubris will not allow this lack of understanding to be acknowledged. Moreover, most are mis-classified, as despite rhetoric they still follow basic rules.

            What those who label erroneously miss is that life itself, arguably the highest form of order of which we know, is born of anarchy.

            A few simple rules are obeyed and order emerges.

            Dynamic chaotic systems find points of equilibrium, but will inexorably evolve. Pinning the butterfly will kill the beauty and prove as erroneous as declaring the end of history itself.

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          • mountaineer says:

            @icethick “beleive in education and above all think”

            Shame you can’t spell “believe” then you thick lefty wanker

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          • Icepick says:

            That’ll be an irony failure if ever their was one. Your labels are tright.

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            Icepick – tip for you pal, spell anachist as such – keeps the trawling Cheltenham listeners away, and giving you attention. And yes, I am Geology from yesterday – yes another tip, change your handle often.

            So nudge-nudge wink-wink to you Icepick. And I wasn’t here, alright? : )

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      • 156
        brown-dog says:

        Those people that camped outside St Pauls were not the anarchists. Remember anarchism means without rules. The real anarchism exists in the form of political system we have in the West. It is primarily the promotion of deregulation for big business. It’s the anarchists that are currently in power. Just who are living on the biggest benefits? Is it David Cameron or Ed Miliban, or Doreen (‘s Story) ….or perhaps the likes of Chris Patten and the hundreds of BBC executives aho have recently received massive payoffs (as reported in today’s DT)?

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      • 162
        The comfy sofa of communitarian thought says:

        Therein lays part of the dialectic trap, which is why no one wants to take the benefits away despite what is said about those who are nicely dependent on them. Economics though will eventually defeat political will though.

        We had a flavour of where this could go during the ri0ts the other year, that is not quite the anarchy needed but may be unavoidably on the way.

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        • 218
          Anonymous says:

          A few blacks nicking trainers and value pack rice will not fuel your revolution you marxist gayboy

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          • The comfy sofa of communitarian thought says:

            It probably will fuel a revolution, but it certainly won’t be mine.

            Incidentally, am not Marxist, the m0niker is meant in irony.

            Carpe diem proponere amici.

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  42. 164
    Missing Sally's Tweets says:

    Someone should petition that Sally B’ercow comes back to Twitter.

    Not the same without her dulcet chirps.

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    • 181
      Psychiatrist says:

      Addicts feed on supply. She has classic identity disorder characteristics. Don’t encourage her or you’ll just get ever more inane, claptrap tweeting.

      Do you feed on supply?

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      • 213
        Missing Sally's Tweets says:

        Her chirping had certain therpeutic qualities, like textual low brow whale song: An oceanic Bieber of the Twitter sphere is no more.

        Now its gone, its like a void is filling with meaningful stuff, thoughts, creativity, ideas. This is a brave new world being entered, a unique genus now extinct.

        You are right, one should be strong.

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        • 237
          Sally's Alley says:

          I’m still here sweetie – and there’s no-one in here at the moment – so it’s all yours to fill as you wish – interested?

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  43. 165
    The Real World says:

    Let’s compromise and meet the Americans halfway on this.

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  44. 167
    I don't need no doctor says:

    A better idea would for Obama to send Morgan to Guantanamo Bay. Water boarding would be good for Morgan.

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    • 175
      Geology is a real science says:

      oh yes, that is so original.

      Send him around to me, and I would give that arse hunt a good attitude adjustment not to be so teenager dramatic, and teach him us brits don’t go around the world like this ol’ boy, we have subbtler methods, that made Britland great.

      You’re a clown Piers, pure and simple.

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  45. 171
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Piers off Morgan.

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  46. 173
    bro wn - d o g says:

    Have a look at the following two links and give a little thought to some of the ubiquitous statistics which keep popping up as to who buys luxurious flats, football teams, and is massively over-represented in the most wealthy percentage in the USA and EU, and yet…….make political and financial capital out of campaigning as members of an alleged persecuted minority drawing on other allegedly oppressed groups (non whites, females and gays) as fellow victims. Who are they victims of? Is the agenda not the removal of the status quo under the subterfuge that here is something oppressive or repressive about the state? How often does one read about “institutional racism” in the police or even our schools which justify trips and celebratory days to teach people to behave differently?

    Is it not erosion of the regulative status quo which is the target? At the same time, ask yourself how many people you actually meet who you would say are prone to any such “hate speech”, and what forensic evidence there is for any of these allegedly frequent mass killings let alone hate crimes.

    Might it not be that such campaigns are in fact just cleverly contrived political programmes to secure self-advancement at the expense of others and to subvert regulations which might otherwise thwart such opportunism? Might it be an egregious creation of a fictitious bogeyman which facilitates *positive* discrimination based on fear?

    How else is one to explain the marked discrepancy between measures of success and all of the allegations of hate-speech and discrimination?. If a group found this “activism” worked in their interests (i.e. in terms of economic advancement) would it not recruit “activists” driven by “market-forces”?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-12261501

    http://standuptohate.blogspot.com/2011/01/liverpool-event-remembers-holocaust-and.html

    Is this absolutely impossible? Where are the reliable figures for this alleged “hate speech”? We even read these days of it being “unconscious”, that is, there being no manifestation of it at all. How irrational is that? Policies based on the non existence of something.

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  47. 177
    US Watch says:

    The AR-15 Bushmaster is what started all this off:

    http://www.bushmaster.com/index.asp

    It is a ‘military styled semi-automatic rifle’, which Moron said would be banned. Spooked people, so most places are now sold out.

    This is not an assault rifle, it is not automatic either, and in most states only the 10 capacity magazine is legal in the thing, and you do need to be FBI checked to get one legally.

    Let’s just hope that those folk who picked this baby up realize what exactly they were buying into. Moron has probably contributed immensely to the gun accident stats for next year.

    The NRA to the best of my knowledge do not recommend this type of weapon for the average owner. Semi-automatic rifles are legal in Canada with similar restrictions on magazine size.

    Moron needs to get with the program fast, before he does get the boot.

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  48. 179
    Geology is a real science says:

    I have heard Alastair Campbell is cumming in his pants with this thread on Guido, and I should know, since I am one of his best mates online, Ehtch.

    JEEZUUUZ, does he not like Piers Morgan.

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  49. 194
    Plantagenet says:

    Anyone seen that One Pound Fish guy recently? I loaned him some quid.

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  50. 198
    Geology is a real science says:

    OH FUCK! just got it now, even what with I posted above – Gerry has fucking snuffed it. At times I need a frying pan hit on my head i am so numbnuts. Hero of my life he is – see, did it again – was.

    Ah well, life moves on, song for Gerry,

    and Gerry, since I know you had the moves, on the dance dish of life,

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  51. 205
    Geology is a real science says:

    Captain Scarlet – jeezuz Gerry??? Doesn’t anything kill the fucking bugger?

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  52. 210
    RHR says:

    Get Real Guido! You are normally so good at this. 70,000 out of a population of some 350m is not really significant….

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    • 217
      Moron Watch says:

      It is >76000 now – Agree as a % small, but remember, most of those who voted probably are armed and maybe a bit pi$$ed.

      It is an established fact that 1% of human populations are sociopath.

      I would be concerned if it was my name at the top of this petition, and maybe would be considering the plus points of a disguise and trip to Canada.

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  53. 211
    Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

    When old folks die and when ask, I come out with the same thing as my drandad said when he got olkd – “he stopped breathing”, or “she as in nit Gerry’s case. My grandad stopped breathing, one day. That is how it goes.

    More UFO here Gerry, confetti A-OK, towards the otherside of our lives, we live,

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  54. 214
    Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

    When old folks die and when ask, I come out with the same thing as my grandad said when he got old – “he stopped breathing”, or “she”, as in Gerry’s case. My grandad stopped breathing, one day. That is how it goes.

    More UFO here Gerry, confetti A-OK, towards the otherside of our lives, we live,

    Hope Sylvia is alright – they were the Burton and Taylor of marionation. Sylvia is 85 now – pushing on.

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  55. 215
    David Cameron was my fag at Eton says:

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  56. 226
    Tweet Watch says:

    There is a lot to be learned from this tweet:

    ‘@AnnCoulter If Americans never had guns, we’d still be British … and forced to listen to ass-hats like @piersmorgan = agenda but no clue’

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  57. 231
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Can we get back to who killed Diana? I rekon it was LJ Scott-Baker ‘with a little help from his friends and fellowes’.

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  58. 232
    tHE tOSSER IN nO 10 says:

    i SAY YOU JOLLY CHAPS!! D’YA SEE HOW RIGHT I AM TER PUSH FER KWEER MARRYAGE AND NOT BOTHER WIV FOX ‘UNTING!

    tONE WAS SO RIGHT!!!!

    aCTUALLY, – i JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW i’M A COMPLETE AND UTTER ARSEHOLE – JUST LIKE tONE AND gORDO

    D’YA KNOW I’M IN LURVE WIV TONE – I JUS WANNA LICK HIS ARSE FER EVER AN EVER!

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    • 241
      Fontadelic says:

      The capitals are annoying

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    • 242
      Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

      could give a fuck if a sparrow married a goat in my local church – it’s all a state controlled hypocrisy. What the fuck is “marriage” in the first place, for god sakes.

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      • 245
        Think says:

        The legal union of a man and a woman recognized after due notice and proscribed form, by the deemed consent of the community (members of whom have an individual right to object, by lawful means) and state, before their agreed witnesses, as indissoluble other than by due legal processes, determining the existence and content not merely their own rights and legal identities viz a viz each other but also in relation to their family, friends, local community (a legal marriage is a public act), and the population of the world at the time of the marriage and into the future, until death.

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        • 252
          Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

          yah yah yah – do birds marry before they shag and lay eggs? Do cows ask before they get imaculatly inseminated “shouldn’t I be married to that bull’s specimen first”?

          It’s all human mankind bollocks. Ban marriage I say, and get it all over and done with. We are living in a 100% total hypocritical society, wher priests shag children, people in power don’t pay their taxes, and kiddies get starved in Britain.

          As I said, if a hedgehog wanted to marry a squirrel, I wouldn’t bat an eyelid.

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      • 253
        Control Watch says:

        Marriage is not completely state controlled.

        Church and state separated.

        State only controls the civil bit, which winds up not getting you tax breaks and costing lots during divorce.

        Church guides the spiritual and real side of the union which some would have us believe is no longer important, but actually is the only bit which is important.

        The attempted usurping of Cannon law is a statist wet dream come true. Other than the implications for family and society, the attack on religion and belief must be stopped.

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        • 255
          Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

          not state controlled??? we have got a right one here vicar.

          Grow up, of course it is you silly sausage.

          Church backs state wars, doesn’t it? Hypocrits – wall to wall hypocrits. If you religious sort we anything but cowards, you should have all joined the resistance in France against the devil nazzies, but no – what did you do? Yes, make up some cowardly lame excuse that “we have to be here to look after the people’s souls”, or some cowardly gobshite like that.

          Yes, as you are taught, you sorts, don’t argue against someone with something you will never win, and move your cowardly arse on.

          The Pope in Musollini’s Italy? Jezzuuuz wept! Killing jews in Spain in the sixteenth century! European religion – you disgrace me, for what it’s worth!

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        • 256
          Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

          rubbish – state controlled religion is the height of hypocrisy.

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            My solution to myself that I have found, is that I have found my own personal relgion, as Jesus Christ. And it is mine, and in this selfish world I have been brought up in around, I will not get on a soap box about to expouse.

            Anyway, I might end up on a cross, after all. Roman Judea amd Tory England – what is the difference, ey?

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          • Control Watch says:

            Dude – re-read carefully, and do a little checking around.

            The state most certainly does not control religion, and the institution of marriage is not completely under the control of the state.

            This is reflected in the difference between civil / cannon law elements of what is entered into: The civil part is predated significantly by common law in the UK. The institution of marriage itself transcends nation states and even the notion of state.

            Those who wish to impose a full total state need to nix religion and bring it under full state control / abolish, as happened in the USSR. This is what needs to be stopped.

            The gay marriage issue is the multi-function horse of Troy that has been wheeled in for this purpose. It needs to be wheeled out before the people settle down for the night.

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            Don’t “dude” me friend – the state religion isn’t a religion, it is state bleeding control. There is no need for state churches, just governments and that is it. And if a person wants to follow his own church of the crows, he should be on the same plain as one who follows a bloke from Judea, if only in name.

            Anyway, these are the main churches, even now,

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          • Control Watch says:

            Ok: @Geology is a real science, rocks last longer

            Check and you will find that in the UK there is no state religion.

            The Church of England is an Established religion which is different.

            It is not controlled by the state, the monarch is the head but the Archbishop of Canterbury in practice runs the Church. Note also that even the monarch is under God.

            The Anglican communion world wide is somewhat large, and encompasses the Episcopalian diocese in North America (which whom there is schism at present), and communions across Latin America, Africa and Asia. It is a global affair.

            There is a need for churches as the state can only cater for the rational side of humanity. Religion is man’s expression of the irrational. The state for instance cannot offer spiritual guidance when life throws an event at you such as the death of a loved one, or offer true authority on a matter such as holy matrimony.

            A person can follow their own church of crows, but such a following would be either sect or cult until a significant corpus has developed, and the institution itself met certain criteria. There are North American belief systems which do find faith in animalistic deities, so if this is your preference there is nothing to stop you from learning the teachings and following.

            Incidentally: The state cannot and should not be able to dictate your religious beliefs. One wonders if those who put down Jedi on the UK census were being truthful or not, but the state cannot interfere with this aspect of their lives in any case.

            If your preference is agnosticism, this is cool, but think carefully before thinking along the statist line and answering that you believe in atheism :-)

            (I don’t call into question your beliefs myself, except what you said about governments are all that is needed.)

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          With benefits says:

          The state regulates property rights and arbitrates in disputes which result from civil status issues, especially where children are involved and particularly after the death of one of the parties. The predictability of the resolution of such issues is an important considerate for many people who are parties to marriage, but also for dependants and third parties who interact with people who are married or who have rights and interests connected, affected or constrained as a result of interacting with a married person.

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            Bollocks! Pop Larking and Ma Larking weren’t marriend, and they had a fine pride of kidies, without all this nonsense.

            Larriage is a blank cheque for solicitors – it is self-perpetuating for them law makers, like a closed loop gravy train going out of control. Can’t you see it?

            People get together, have kids – they may stay together, but if not, so? The state is a spannerhead, makes things well too complicated these days. Started off as a good idea, but it is state control that has gone well out of control.

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          • Control Watch says:

            Yes – which is tied up with all the legal fiction that the state attaches to both people, and people who enter into a civil marriage contract.

            The interference of the state in the realm of children is controversial. Particularly in the UK, where the state has taken on a distinctly predatory stance with respect to separating children from their biological parents. This is very shaky under common and natural law, and to my mind is a regressive mutation of what was originally intended.

            The state acts under the authority of legal statutes which were originally extended from common law principals, and are set by Parliament. (Ignoring the EU fiction that has to be put up with now)

            The Church and State are mutually separate.

            The attachments of property rights and other legal fictions into marriage is not the purvey of the church you correctly indicate.

            When the actual meaning of marriage is considered though, such attachments can be seen to be subtly subversive and in practice destructive to the institution.

            Further dissolution of the core meaning by extending the practice into the realm of abomination will be the final coup de grace.

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          • Control Watch says:

            @Geology is a real science, rocks last longer
            – Usually I do not agree with your posts – but you have made a very good point here. You are pointing to the common law approach and ‘non-official’ form of marriage, albeit a fictional one.

            I do not wish to mis-interpret @With benefits, but the line of reasoning presented there sounds much more North American oriented than UK.

            The system of law and understanding of marriage is slightly different over there – a fine cultural difference – but people everywhere still enter into marriage for common reasons:

            1) In order to form a stable family unit for rearing their young, 2) for gaining acceptance and status within society as being husband and wife, and 3) ultimately because the two who are wed wish to form a spiritual bond that only death can break, and which can only truly exist between man and woman.

            (And many believe that bond will last beyond death.)

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            CONTRACT! oh give me rest lord please!

            Emotional contract ok yes, but why has law come into it? It should have nothing to do with law. As I said, and am repeating myself like a fecking parrot, people come together, then they part if they have to. And leave it there. If law wasn’t involved, fathers would see their children more often, on average. Law is the bastard, not kiddies.

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            Conrol Watch 2:45am

            Don’t think you have got the point I was making. Let all children be born out of so called wedlock, let all couples live in sin. But register fathersand mothers of children, but don’t put the yoke of state around them as a couple. With inheritence, that is what written personal wills are for, you silly sod.

            Hate the US republican and UK Tory crap totally insincere spoutings on family life. It is crap of self-deluded highest fantasy corrosion.

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          • Control Watch says:

            @Geology is a real science, rocks last longer (Not sure if to myself)
            – I did not say contract anywhere in the above two. Bond is not contract, especially a spiritual bond.

            To your point fully agree. Under common / natural law, the intrusion of third parties, especially the state, in the affairs of a family is really not permitted. This is important as all statutory law has to be compatible with common / natural law.

            The intrusions you mention are subversive actions implemented by the state in order to disrupt and destabilize the family unit. This was the flanking maneuver on marriage / family.

            The Church has recognized this and is reacting now.

            Until people wake up and force the state to change, then things will continue as is. Extension into the realm of the abominable unions is the next step in destruction.

            Ultimately the state does desire taking control of children directly and removing unapproved parents from the upbringing equation completely.

            It is a social engineering / eugenics thing.

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          • Control Watch says:

            @Geology is a real science, rocks last longer 3:06
            I get your point. In the UK though, once a couple has been together for a while they automatically become man and wife under common law.

            It is fine what you say. The only requirements for stable family unit are two committed and fertile people.

            If they wish to enter union with the approval of a deity, that is their choice, and fully agree that all the other fiction piled on is corrosive.

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            Control Watch 3:10am

            People have been doing it for years, not getting married and so called livin in sin, to lessen the controlling state in their lives. It is enough to pay taxes and all that. The less complication in life the better. Legal divorces make me laugh – good god, the state in real action, money for old rope for solicitors/lawyers, which could easily be sorted by just an extended family gathering, and a few punch ups, and quicker too.

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          • Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

            Control Watch 3:13am

            It is only common law if either wants to press the point. But yes, that is the incidious state for you – they should kep well out of it, outside a “legal” marriage. It is the state again exerting it’s control where it is not needed. Either of the two parties would know where they stand if they have not gone up some state controlled isle, State putting confusion into the matter again.

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          • Control Watch says:

            @Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:
            The modern divorce process is a complete racket. That goes to the point I was trying to make above about ‘legal fiction’ the state likes to attach. Note that it is a fiction – which is completely to your point about the unreality / non essential nature.

            The extended family issue you are correct on. I did attempt to explain that the state by attaching legal fiction has been working quite successfully to break this notion up.

            (Please bear with me on the law bits below…)

            The ‘punch ups’ etc. you suggest for sorting out disputes etc. is directly to the point I was making above about natural law. ie. My wife commits adultery, if I find the guy he gets a broken nose if that is my manner, or the wife gets slung out. This is natural law.

            Society acting to soften this is fine – that evolved as common law. But to actively start working against the interests of the family as has happened under statutory law is completely unacceptable.

            It is curious you state ‘living in sin': The reason why is that your argument I read as man and woman living together as family and being faithful to each other is all that is required. I agree with you on that.

            The reason the ‘sin’ statement is interesting though is that it implies that such an informal agreement is somehow amoral.

            Now – I would not argue that it is, but the Church labelled unofficial marriages as ‘living in sin’ before society coined the term ‘common law marriage’, mainly to coerce people into entering church run marriages.

            Both terms seem to imply that for the marriage to be valid it has to be recognized by an independent moral authority: Either the Church (hence God) or a Judge (as is technically the case in common law, and I refer to the original meaning of Judge not what we understand today)

            This is interesting, as if the church is consumed by the state, the state itself is amoral, then what is the moral authority who can recognize a marriage ?

            In this case withdrawing consent to all statutory law in relation to marriage is a morally correct thing to do as the only moral authority which has the power to recognize the marriage will then be the family itself, deferring if needed to the common law only.

            Sorry for that sounding circular, but I think that this is.

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            Control Watch 3:39am

            (yes, I am the same bloke, but with a new handle, for today)

            Enjoyed our conversation early this morning, and you made excellent points, and me hopefully too.

            Western capitalist world has got the state of marriage in a right mess, I think we can both conclude, And the various churches don’t help the matter at all, frankly. And politicians should keep well out of it, especially Georgie Porgie puddin’ and pie with his “for hardworking families everywhere” budgets bulshitel he comes out with hypocritically. He wouldn’t know hard work even if it smacked him square on the face, like a shovel or a cricket bat.

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          • Damned Impertinent Questions says:

            |I hadn’t realised it was a full moon tonight

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      The Congestion Charge says:

      Will help ease tensions between Britain and America? The list of issues to be resolved is a long one. Piers Morgan probably does not feature till about page 35.

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        Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

        In my recent years of botheing yanks on youtubby, they are coming around. My favorite line I used to say, “What do you call a yank with a passport? – A spy” (as in ceeaye ehh… jesus – you could spot them a mile off, usual in McDees, buying a burger and fries and poke.

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          Geology is a real science, rocks last longer says:

          God, made me laugh going toUS airbases in Britain – all little americas, with doctor pepper dispensing machines on every corner, foam bread hamburgers at every mess, and the yank gas guzzling cars groaning and bouncing past. Pathetic.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Why are you replying to yourself?, good conversation is it.

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            S’pose I should have started my reply to my other personality with “furthermore”, or, “also” or “and did I tell you” or “cont,” to myself.

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          • Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

            And M & M’s too – they are fucking smarties you yank numbnuts, smarties!

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    not a machine says:

    Thank you Gerry Anderson for all the fun we had with your creations …..

    Boxing day over , sale fever is occuring where people have got some spare cash or credit and the post spurt doom sayers have been on , now that some have woken up to E shopping is erm the tax equivalent of norovirus . PM Dave threatens to push through Gay marriage like a drunken binge rape, although the real story is altering the definition of marriage , which perhaps is what has got the judge into a tizz , nevermind the Archbishop Westminsters plea that Dave can hardly summon up the will to respond to. The new Archbishop of Canterbury gets off to a fine start , with a message of hope , yet only days before says he didnt really want the job , complain ohh me chill blains and lumabgo etc etc . The former Archbishop of Canterbury is still convinced women bishops has damaged the church , seeming to not notice the pile of casualities that the dispossed feel of their traditions , nor considering if declaration of we cannot have a church within a church , read from some pulpits before christmas,was offensive ….

    Obama returns from Hawaii to try and sort out fiscal cliff , offering a round cocktails in fresh topped coconut shells , with an umbrella in , and garlands of flowers and a sort of were nearly there , hope changey thing just $600bn to sort out in the difference …… If only it was that simple …. It would seem apparent to me that the USA election failed to pin down the fiscal cliff problem properly in what the candidates were going to do , perhaps now they wish the candidates had been on the level about it …. before vote frenzy …

    Nick Clegg having been threatend with being ousted , finds second wind on europe demanding we must stay in europe ….. Ok Nick heres yer starter for 10 , do you think the ECB knows the cost of further eurozone integration …. yes or no ??? logical sunsequent question must be , what is the sum then and will you resign if it is really just yet more borrowing from the people already broke for a number of years now …? France has just been told by IMF to ease on taxation …. yes but wont borrowing increase ?? Come on Nick this thing is one of the most dodgeiest motors ever sold , on yer partys lot , honest guv , came from from a bloke who only drove it to church on sundays , main dealer (De Estang motors) runs on other peoples taxes , its all Kosher mmm tasty .

    The redifinition of marriage upsets me , but I just want to wait and see what the man with a 1st class honours degree in Economics from Oxford , does when hes at the EU budget round 2 , I suppose his whole team could slip off there jackets to reveal some worded T shirts when the chair is about to speak “your all a load of **ebs with all the accumen and carisma of a damp cloth” . Could just be that two birds with one shot outcome that Dave may be pining for . Equally we could all end up being sold off for more tax , if his pen and paper meet ……. Cant say I am all that bothered until budget meeting , you tell me , they let greece go bust via debt , there are no guarentees that they can stop the eurozone itself just being junk ..

    I think I will just sit this one out until budget meeting murmerings can be assessed , goodness knows what alignments of the fates have in stall for making the worng call on this one ….

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    Alice says:

    That’s the new Egyptian Constitution signed into law so the voters have well and truly f*cked themselves. Morsi promises economic progress but unless they find a lot of oil they’ll progress to completely failed state status like Pakistan and every other M*sl*m country that doesn’t have the black stuff aplenty to offset the drag of their culture.
    When the punters soon realise that their lives are not improved they will of course look for someone to blame – Israel and the West.
    Perhaps in a few hundred years they, and all the other failed M*sl*m states, will come to see what the common problem is.

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    Curly from Camden says:

    Little Americas? Yes.

    A while back I was invited to join some US service personnel friends at the base for an afternoon of bowling. On the gate was the usual cannon-fodder marine. He had to fill in a form for me before I was allowed entry.

    “Name?”
    “Fred Bloggs”
    “Nationality?”
    “English”
    “Where you from?”
    “London”
    “Is that London, France?”
    “No, it’s London, Ontario”.
    “Oh, ok, sign here and then go right on in”

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      Anonymous says:

      Must be something in that full moon theory after all, hopefully we will now be spared for a lunar cycle.

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    Gordon Brown says:

    I am trying to avoid traffic hams

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    Common Purpose says:

    Attention all retired right wingers with nothing but time on their hands (and money) i.e all you saddos on here…

    Pierce will return once Lord Blair is seated in power and he can join both Blair and Campbell at the top table, until then please STFU

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      I see the hate still shows even at Xmas says:

      I suppose being braindead and on benefits helps you to be a leftwing nut, most of the retirees on this blog are on holiday abroad having a well deserved Christmas break spending their OWN money on quality goods/food, I do hope you enjoyed your Christmas dinner supplied by a food bank, which the food was supplied with money spent by the same people.

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      The Dodgy Dossier did for any honours for Tony says:

      Can’t actually see Bliar getting any honour in gift of the crown whilst HMQ is around and certainly Charles isn’t his biggest fan either…strange THAT as he was purportedly the man who saved the monarchy in 1997.

      As for life peerage..I can’t see any future Labour leader recommending him let alone the honours commitee approving it

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    I would like to make 5,456 sincere and unequivocal apologies and clarifications about earlier pieces I wrote in relation to Lord Ashcroft, Virgin Care and the Guido Fawkes blog and its posters. My earlier writings used hyperbole in 2 cases, may have caused a false impression to be received in others in 2 cases, and was incorrect on the facts in 5,452 cases.

    In fact, it would be quicker to state tha I failed to get anything right on any item I have ever blogged, written or spoken about.

    I would also like to make apologies to my mother, my family and my friends most of which now claim never to have met or known me.

    Following a review of The Green Benches, I have decided that from now onwards each entry about Virgin Care or its services shall be thoroughly researched before it is posted on my blog to ensure the accuracy of any claims I make. As for all the others, they will have to swing I realise I must be scrupulously careful to the same extent.

    Now please, please, pretty please, will you click my donate button as I have run out of funds, the buggers are suing the pants off me and all my former Labour friends and admirers have suddenly disappeared – just at the time I really needed them.

    Thank you for reading this. Now focking click, yer mingy bastards!

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      Ah ffs says:

      Sorry but more important things like Xmas sales come first, try Labour lost a bit further down the virtual road.

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    albacore says:

    The “One Pound Fish Singer” link up top’s a blinder
    Never knew The Speccie was such a meat grinder
    The ripe comments there ain’t arf blowing its organ
    And what are we chewing over? That prat Morgan

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    Surprise surprise says:

    Newsflash….http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/26/voters-back-gay-marriage-poll
    A poll conducted by the Granuid says 3 out of 5 people polled are in favour of g ay marriage. Who would have thunk it?

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    One Term Dave says:

    I can’t be arsed to try to stop mass immigration. I’m far too busy trying to get gay marriage onto the statute book. But we can turn it to our advantage like the Labour party. We’ll buy the immigrant vote by having a benefit free-for-all. Sometimes I’m so clever I even surprise myself.

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    Moussa Koussa Mark 3 says:

    All over the place as usual Guido

    So you agree with the Neo Nuts NRA..or not.

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    The Yanks have found the quay to bringing Piers to justice.

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      Christmas Sales ??? says:

      “Quay” ? Is that Manchester Quays ?

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        That’s one place you’re likely to be promenading from pillar to post, certainly.

        
        

        No doubt the odd listee from Burke’s Pierage can be found with their butt resting against a pile; I suggest you ask if they’ve paid their dam levy.

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    oddly helpful says:

    Science Fiction is ideal for delivering sugarcoated socialist utopias. ‘Advanced’ aliens often have collectivist values that send them into space. Baddies were typically militaristic and male.. Until ‘Alien’ came along.

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    Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

    Who says I should learn to keep my mouth shut?

    The yanks need more Morgans about, I say. Right – I am off to catch a plane to Washington, to the sharp end, no messing with me yankies.

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      Limey Morgan and his Mouth Organ says:

      oops! Why am I in the north west of america?!?

      Think I did a boo-boo – but these online flight booking sites are confusing, aren’t they?

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    I hate Liebour says:

    can’t we meet the yanks in the middle on this one and drop the Hunt in the middle of the atlantic

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