December 20th, 2012

Blow for Internet Freedom

Claire Perry and Paul Dacre’s plan to censor the internet by putting up mandatory firewalls is back on. Despite expert advice saying it is a waste of time and civil liberties groups hammering their keyboards, the numbers in the crucial mothers polling group must be telling No. 10 something. Taking to the Mail today, Dave says:

“…with our new system, every parent will be prompted to protect their child online. If they don’t make choices, protection will be automatically on. No other Government has taken such radical steps before. And once all this is in place, Britain will have the most robust internet child protection measures of any country in the world – bar none.

To get all this underway, I have appointed Claire Perry MP to be my adviser on preventing the sexualisation and commercialisation of childhood. Claire is a passionate campaigner for internet safety and mother of three. Her job will be to see this through, to get internet companies on board, to do what it takes to protect children and young people online.All this comes back to something really important. It’s not just about the internet, or modern technology – it’s about childhood.”

She finally gets that long conveted promotion then. Presumably the new filter would block kids searching about Perry’s more passionate moments?


102 Comments

  1. 1
    George "White lines, don't do it" Osborne says:

    Did someone say blow? Count me in!

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    • 27
      ah! monika's moniker is a gonner says:

      Just as well there are no porrngraphic references on here. Order-order behind a firewall!!

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    • 33
      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      Me too. Boaz.

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    • 41
      Claire D Loon says:

      I wouldn’t take this too seriously Guido.

      The government ain’t got any money to do anything so they are dreaming up schemes which don’t cost a penny but make it look as if they are doing lots.

      Claire is a lightweight and will achieve nothing. Now if Dave really wanted to protect the innocence of Children he could start by ordering his own MPs to set better examples.

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      • 55
        Truthteller says:

        Or stop the Asian sex grooming gangs, and deal with the politically motivated social services, councils and police.

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  2. 2
    Bill Payer says:

    Well blow me what a choice.

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  3. 3
    George "White lines, don't do it" Osborne says:

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  4. 4
    Fahrenheit says:

    Maybe those parents who find it intellectually impossible to set up a secure password or safe search should be banned from having kids. After all if you can’t secure your data, could you secure a child?

    I’m angry about this as it sets a precedent. What next? Will certain political views be censored or restricted for search? Will criticism of certain violent alien ideologies suddenly become difficult.

    This sort of thing must give the mad banstrubators and terminal liars of the labour party wet dreams. Just think, control over what people can search for, it’s a wonder that Ed Milliband isn’t having an orgasm.

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    • 21
      T. P. Fuller says:

      >certain violent alien ideologies

      Conservatism?

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      • 34
        Living in 96.98 percent white Merseyside says:

        Agree. Is this the first step to block sites exposing dirty little secrets and snouts in the trough. Plus the fact I don’t like being in the same league as Iran, Tunisia, Saudi etc.

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      • 76
        Fahrenheit says:

        I was thinking of some thing more savage and bearded myself LOL

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    • 56
      Anonymous says:

      Obviously you have not seen what it can do to kids.

      My dongle has was supplied 6 years ago with a parental lock on it. All you had to do was ask and it was removed. It makes the system an opt in.

      As for protecting kids there are few parents that can out secure a computer against a child. The problem is that the ways through are also provided by the same people that provide the worst of the sites. These site are not as they seem, they are a lead in.

      This is not censoring a freedom, it is allowing a freedom to a parent. The internet is still there. Would you like all corner shops to sell knives to children? That is a freedom that has been restricted, but it does not stop you buying a knife.

      The issue is that you do not want your name on a list of “opt in” people. So why not start your own ISP? You can control your own list. The freedom is there, you just need to stand up and be part of it. Sitting on the side-lines and saying “I want” is not freedom.

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      • 59
        Tom says:

        > Obviously you have not seen what it can do to kids.

        Of course he hasn’t, because it does fuck all.

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      • 62
        hank the cat says:

        You cannot talk about your dongle, its disgusting

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      • 66
        Mornington Crescent says:

        Someone posting anonymously pontificating about other people’s internet use.

        Do use a favour, you arrogant yet cowardly twat: fuck off.

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      • 67
        Bluto says:

        Absolute 100% Grade A twaddle. Cameron first said that default filters would not be used – in other words an opt in. This proposal is effectively a default filter and opt out so more deceit from Cameron the Socialist Authoritarian.

        And giving the implementation to Perry is madness.

        This the thin edge of a very large authoritarian censorship wedge and you are a useful idiot. As others have said, wait until a Labour government with their horde of ban everything harpies start “enhancing” this.

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      • 75
        Edmund says:

        So everyone who disagrees with an ‘opt in’ for uncensored internet should start their own ISP? Yes that’s a logical solution.

        On the other hand, why not just let everyone who wants parental control to select it and take responsibility for their own kids.

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      • 81
        White hat geek says:

        Opt in is back door censorship, and too much personal information given out on a ‘list’. (People just don’t get it with why governments and lists are a bad combo)

        This is all old hat anyway. From the latest Anonymous attack on the Westboro Church, it looks like Twitter is a very good attack vector, or simply a way of compromising a machine.

        So – To protect children, it is best to stop predators being able to target them.

        The only solution is to shield them from direct communication by predators.

        To do this:

        i) Remove any mobile phone device they may have
        ii) Keep them away from any messenger, skype, forum or social media type site.

        The only way to acheive ii) is to deny them physical access to the internet, or put them behind an extremely restricted firewall which allows access to only a certain number of approved sites. This of course is impractical, even the Chinese have figured that out.

        Education and encouraging better moral judgement and safety on line is the real solution. Government can do this through schools – why are they not discussing that but preferring to attack liberty ?

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        • 101
          Anonymous Coward says:

          “The only solution”

          Monitoring everyone isn’t the solution. Monitor the nonces heavily and the problem goes away. Make it a criminal offence for sex offenders to connect to the Internet other than through a Plod / Probation Service mandated ISP. I’m sure ISPs will be queueing up to build a platform to do this on behalf of Plod or the Probation Service.

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  5. 5
    The Slog says:

    Elms Guest House: 1980s p@edophiles poised to be outed? As the obvious existence of long-standing systemic child sex abuse comes increasingly to light, more and more long-serving politicians are beginning to feel queasy. The fairly reliable word out there on the streets now is that two former Tory ministers, seven other MPs and various social luminaries from the late 1970s and early 1980s were regular visitors at the Barnes ‘venue’ featured above…….the boys all having been recruited from a nearby care home.

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  6. 6

    bites.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/if-cap-fits-up.html

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  7. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Presumably this digital blockade will also include the mail’s website, which regularly features scantily clad women, inadvertently flashed boobs and generally traffic-driving tittilation?

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  8. 8
    Anonymous says:

    Promotion? She’s already a PPS and this advisory position also appears to be unpaid. So what’s the promotion, exactly?

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  9. 9
    Why?????!!!! says:

    Why has it taken so long for Fat Pickles to block public finance to send Town Hall plonkers on Common Purpose Courses?

    Why has it taken so long for Fat Pickles to block public finance for Town Halls to advertise fucking useless Job ‘Situations’?

    Why has it taken so long for Camertwat to FUCK OFF!!!

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  10. 10
    George Entwistle says:

    Who was Jimmy Savile? I never heard of him. The BBC? Is that a train company? Sorry, I can’t talk now. I need to decide how to spend £450,000.

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    • 49
      Mad Margaret Moran the beret wearing occasional drinker says:

      Because you’ve been a naughty boy I wont be putting your Easter eggs under the bonfire this Christmas.

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  11. 12
    Max Clifford says:

    I’m having a party and she is invited.

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  12. 13
    Jagbulon says:

    Of course the MSM and the political establishment hate the interwebs.
    They don’t want voters being able to find the truth for themselves.

    China has a firewall, as do Iran, Cuba, Saudi Arabia and Vietnam. Are we to join these great free democracies?

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  13. 14
    Sophie says:

    The internet is the battelground of free-thinkers & new ideas.

    I can see why Government such as China, Russia, The EUSSR & UK would want to control it.

    If you are reading this, you are the resistance.

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  14. 15
    genghiz the kahn says:

    The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.

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  15. 16
    Anonymous says:

    celeb phone hacker gets 10 years jail sentence in the U.S.

    it,s all about the privacy.
    clelebs are powerful and they mix with the powerful.
    so a stern message is being sent out.

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  16. 17
    We call him 'Camoron' for a reason. says:

    “And once all this is in place, Britain will have the most robust internet child protection measures of any country in the world – bar none.”

    How to destroy Dave’s “most robust” child protection measures in under 60 seconds (as any 10 year old knows):

    1. Go to torproject.org
    2. Click ‘download’
    3. Unzip file.
    4. Run tor.

    (also can be used to subvert Dave’s £1.8billion Super Snooper’s system).

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    • 29
      Another Engineer says:

      Half the exit notes are run by ‘agencies’ though.

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    • 68
      Anonymous says:

      …issue is those who may break the law…the promoters of ,,tor,, for instance, may get in to trouble. the state is all about protecting paedophilia and not protecting the child.
      .
      =====here is what the pope said
      .
      “In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.@@@2 years ago.
      .
      “It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than’ and a ‘worse than’. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”

      http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/popersquos-child-porn-normal-claim-sparks-outrage-among-victims-15035449.html#ixzz2Fac6ZD3j


      ======
      .
      the direction of the global state is to censor in order to protect paedophilia.
      .
      should those who are weak, a child, be protected? easy to mislead the young. The purpose of the state and the parent is to protect.
      .
      the leader of the global catholic church is of the view that things could be worse. how worse, and what may that be? and would the parent of the child agree?

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      • 97
        Libertarian says:

        Be careful with statements such as: ‘purpose of the state is to protect’.

        Ben Franklin is very relevant: ‘They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.’

        It is influential support such as that espoused by the Pope and others in power which is at the root of social acceptance of the problem: Either by overt acceptance, or overt denial of a truth.

        Loving and liking children is fine. All parents understand this and it is a very natural state for adult humans to be in.

        Predatory and/or manipulative behavior to exploit the innocence of the child, infringing the child’s freedom for personal self fulfilment is what society should not and cannot tolerate.

        Vigilance among the people and investigation are the primary tools which the state has in order to detect. Education on the real problem and removal of cognitive blocks is important so as the people can correctly inform the state reliably of a suspected problem.

        Theorizing outside the bounds of objectively determining the cause and drivers is an excuse making exercise which serves only to protect the predator.

        Censorship will prove counter productive as a solution, as by impacting the liberty of the majority this way, the actual problem will be driven further underground and become harder to detect and/or correct.

        Denying the liberty of the predators in this case is fully justified by the fact that the moral consequence of their actions on the child are significantly more negative than that of denying their freedom to engage in this behavior.

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    • 96
      White hat geek says:

      Or: Go to ‘hidemyass dot com’ or some other proxy, enjoy.

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  17. 18
    Johnny says says:

    “If they don’t make choices, protection will be automatically on.”

    And if they do make choices it’ll be recorded on a list and used against them at a later date if social services ever wish to pinch their children to meet adoption targets and get more money.

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    • 28
      Kate's Bush says:

      That’s a good point. Another good point is these ‘adult content’ filters, in my experience, tend to block a lot of legitimate sites. I had automatic blocking set up on a new Vodafone account and it blocked about a fifth of the web, including the Getty picture agency. I had no option but to request that the blocking was removed.

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    • 50
      Rotherham children's services says:

      Not only did you think about joining UKIP but you actually visited their site for a quickie. We have applied for a court order, you will be marked for sterilisation soon.

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      • 98
        Anonymous says:

        Not funny. I seem to remember the Lisbon Constitution includes a provision making it a crime to work to undermine the institutions of the EU. If UKIP actually started winning seats in the UK, it could be popcorn time viewing the arrests.

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  18. 22
    Mr. Anonymous says:

    An opt in/out question should be mandatory when signing up to new ISP.

    Forced mandatory firewall which you have to opt out of is a stupid idea.
    The chances of it working successfully are slim.

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  19. 23
    Kim Jong-un says:

    ‘No other Government has taken such radical steps before’

    I’m sorry but I must call you out on this, you zionist dog, you are a liar.

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  20. 24
    Kim J0ng-un says:

    ‘No other Government has taken such radical steps before’

    Really ?

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    • 37
      President Ahmadinejad says:

      We knew you Little-Satan infidel pigdogs would join our repression club sooner or later. Where we lead, you follow.

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    • 42
      Iran says:

      We knew you Little Satan infidel pigdogs would join our Repression Club sooner or later.

      Where we lead, you follow.

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    • 46
      Ayatollah Khomenei says:

      We knew you Little Sátan in*fídel pígdogs would join our Repression Club sooner or later.

      Where we lead, you inevitably follow.

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  21. 26
    Philip Schofield says:

    So I may need 5 minutes rather than 3 for any research I do, but it’s not going to stop me is it?

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  22. 35
    I d on't nee d no doctor says:

    Oh dear Guido more Star on Sunday drivel.

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  23. 36
    Ludvig says:

    The Blue-Labour lass for Devizes
    Has her eye on some fat E.U. prizes.
    She’s been voting with Cam.
    To continue the scam
    But she’s in for a few more surprises.

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  24. 38
    Courtship in the 21st century says:

    Hi Shaz I snt U a foto of my dik

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  25. 40
    Nom Dom Nom 2 says:

    What the feck happened to the Tory policy of light touch government?

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  26. 44
    WoRaft says:

    We only want our children sexualized in primary school by professionals, thank you. Now, Chlamydia, this how we put a condom on. Yes, that’s right Stubble, especially when it’s another man.

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  27. 45
    The state of the nanny! says:

    preventing the sexualisation and commercialisation of childhood.??
    Wtf OK then lets ban Christmas, Toys , girls Magazines the fashion industry as well! sorry but this isn’t about Mums looking after kids it’s about Mums stopping dads looking at porn after the child was born and the sex life died !!

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  28. 47
    ah! monika's moniker is a gonner says:

    Another youporn turn coming up.

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  29. 48
    Plebgate says:

    So is the 23 year old just arrested the bloke with the big blob on his head loitering outside the Downing Street gates?

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  30. 51
    Nom Dom Nom 2 says:

    Time for a Arab UK spring I reckon.

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  31. 54
    hank the cat says:

    Miss perry suffers from Apodysophillia

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  32. 58
    The Beast of Christmas present says:

    Pussy
    Snatch
    come
    Dick
    Cock
    Ass

    So I will not be able to read about cats,A Brad Pitt film, accept an invite,a person callled Richard, Male chickens or a donkey?

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  33. 60
    non-sexuitur? says:

    quote:

    ‘Claire is a passionate campaigner for internet safety and mother of three’

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  34. 61
    an imartial observer says:

    mmmmmm…..nice mouth. Any idea what she charges? Rather fancy a little indulgence, put me in the mood for Xmas

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  35. 63
    He who no longer posts says:

    Passion.

    Just the quality required for what is fundamentally a task of analysis. Wish you luck with this one Dave.

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  36. 64
    Beeb cavalier with his horse, lancing roundheads says:

    Think it is about time for some good british xmas poems,
    from ages ago,
    I am sure of it,

    Suck my cock,
    it’s a stick of Blackpool rock.

    Ask your granny,
    to show her fanny.

    Lick my lump,
    it’s a peppermint lump.

    And let’s see your rump,
    my card want’s to trump.

    What do you say Lttle Boots/Victoria Hesketh, from Blackpool?

    For the ladies, about here,

    Like Blackpool I do. WHAAARRRTT!?!

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    • 65
      Beeb cavalier with his horse, lancing roundheads says:

      ok,
      ok,
      ok, so it should have read,

      suck my stump, it’s a peppermint lump.

      SOOO?

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      • 71
        Ted Bovis says:

        Stop spamming endless music videos you silly Hunt.

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        • 83
          Gawd 'elp this country becoming fascist Dave Cee says:

          don’t watch, is my very simple answer, numbnuts.

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        • 84
          Gawd 'elp this country becoming fascist Dave Cee says:

          and it seems I am an odd one or two steps ahead of you, you old child, Ted. Get back to sucking your dummy, you hold back tory of true life. A song for you,

          Is she your daughter/grand-daughter Ted? Do you know what shye get’s up to when she goes out?

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        • 86
          Gawd 'elp this country becoming fascist Dave Cee says:

          try grimes, to really stroke the tories right up their own way, and from Canada true liberal,

          Stuff Ted, he is old mind.

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          • Gawd 'elp this country becoming fascist Dave Cee says:

            torys right up AGAINST their way, even – lost in a bubble of hypocrisy, arse total breaths.

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  37. 70
    Not surprised says:

    Government to block internet access for the public?

    Why not a block on Government by the public?

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  38. 72
    Rob says:

    Hmmm, lots of sites the Government doesn’t like, I.e. opposing the government, will ‘accidently’ end up on this list, and the thorough and detailed appeals process will unfortunately take an average of four and a half years.

    This government is identical to the previous one.

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  39. 73
    hugh, that'll be $50 for a suck off says:

    147129 signatures

    That Hacked Off petition has died a death, hasnt it?
    lol

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  40. 74
    Rightallalong says:

    Let’s not forget, it was Blair who encouraged children to use the internet. Even before he was elected PM he boasted that he had done a deal with BT to provide laptops for schoolchildren. Blair pushed the internet onto children. Did he think they’d never look at porn ?

    Blair’s government relaxed the law on skunk with the all the untold harm that has done. They introduced 24 hour drinking and encouraged gambling. They have taught sex (all kinds of) to younger and younger children and then handed out the contraceptives. At the same time they discouraged competitive sports.

    Blair promoted the Gallaghers as role models.

    Blair and his cronies have destroyed childhood – just one of Blair’s crimes.

    Ironic how, when Blair is accused of anything bad, he blinks his eyes like a wrongly blamed child.

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  41. 78
    Got a new crayon says:

    “The European Union’s data retention law could breach fundamental E.U. law”

    I had to laugh when I read this, and the chief architect? -Mr. Bliar.

    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/20/0341250/european-data-retention-rule-could-violate-fundamental-eu-law

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  42. 82
    qlangley says:

    Willie Whitelaw once announced parental controls on video cassette machines. One MP asked if he expected that parents or children would be most likely to understand the controls, and, with good grace, he admitted it would probably be children. Policy dead.

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  43. 90
    Do nowt Dave the Downing street Dictator says:

    I’m totally against all this pornography on the internet all those men and women doing thing to each other ! IT’S Not Normal !
    But i’m still pushing on with my Gay marriage bill , much more normal when two men have anal sex and blowing each other off than all that hetrosexual nonsense

    Toodle Pip !

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  44. 93
    Rob says:

    Will this mean I’ll have to opt-in to read the Mail?

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  45. 94
    Its even bleaker in sunderland this xmas with only one food bank says:

    Claire Perry is the biggest arse licker in the Parliamentary Conservative Party,then again she could lick mine!

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  46. 95
    dtn says:

    Liberty curtailed is not worth having.

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  47. 99
    The savant10.4 highway patrol says:

    Is she a fluffer. Girl for the. Speaker before he has to confront silly sallt in the boudoir??

    Would.nt do for me as i am addicted to victoria paris But i suppose mediocrity will out

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  48. 100
    Kris Akabusi says:

    Vile, odious woman. It’s funny how it’s usually the same people who want to turn the internet into Disneyland who are too cowardly to take up the fight with REAL evils like islam.

    Crying all day about Jimmy Saville whilst defending those who follow Mohammed.

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  49. 102

    priceless observation thank you keep your eye in brother ps are you catholic?

    pps do you only do westminster or are you interested in counter attacks

    ________________________________

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