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Tom Harris bemoans the public’s attitude to politicians…
“Mr Oborne echoes the lazy, anti-politics whine we hear so often these days, all based on the absurd notion that politicians were once loved and only fell out of public favour during the expenses scandal. He should take a walk to the Strangers’ Bar. But not to sup with the patrons he seems to despise so much, dearie me, no; he should instead look at the paintings on the corridor outside the bar, which depict the devastating fire which consumed most of the Palace in 1834. And he should reflect on the fact that on that dramatic night, as the Commons went up in flames, a crowd gathered on the South Bank to clap and cheer.”
Harold Macmillan says:
” Evans, dear boy, Evans “
Bit embarrassing for Labour. Go for the auto-react “all police are trustworthy, all Tories are scum” line and…..it fails them.
Labour is not a truth based party
You judge if they have ever delivered their five core values of
social justice
strong community and strong values
reward for hard work
decency
rights matched by responsibilities
Always trust a policeman more than a politician.
But it looks like Rebekah has come through again.
Well done Girl!
There is a place for all our friends at the top table.
Policemen everytime – torys are never armed. Say yes to a copper everytime, no matter what…
yes tossifer, whatever you say…
New Labour are just a party of opportunistic plebs.
Poor photo as the policeman has shifty eyes.
Obviously the Liebor Party are recruiting their PR “professionals” from the LSE.
As with everything that comes out of Miliband’s mouth – He wants it both ways.
shoot both the f_ckers
Spot on, I don’t trust either of them. Always beware of people who claim to be “honourable”. Their “honour” is highly selective.
‘Brutus was an honourable man.’
Neither do I . Keep the rozzers out of politics and keep the reptiles away from policing if at all possible. At the moment we seem to have the worst of all worlds.
Too late!
I infiltrated the police and changed it from a force to a service (to me and my party)
Pity the military did not go along, but hey I am a honest guy and did without a military takeover.
Neither do I
Police every time…end of
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=320_1355872856
I was suspicious right from the outset that this was a stitch-up engineered by the Police Federation. I await the unfolding events with great interest!
As I’ve said before, when dealing with any public sector employee it’s worth making sure you’re “wired”. Disguised video cameras can be bought cheaply from most gadget shops and it’s worth it to nail common-purpose muppets.
Their muppets are well infiltrated into Demos too.
I think David Cameron’s photo should be up there, unless its just me not trusting him…
The Police telling porkies?
Let me just get a quote from Ian tomlinson or Charles De Menzes, oh wait….
You’re late by one minute
Had cramp in my F5 finger
I can’t ever recollect using the F key. Just tried it – nothing.
And the answer is neither, both seem to have a sort of track record.
None of the above, they all lie like Labour politicians when it suits them.
ALL Scum the lot of them
Remove kebab from sacred clay of glorious serbia.
Remove kebab from premises.
Loving this!
Typo in the poster: ‘OR’ should read ‘NOR’
From first hand experience “none of the above”.
We need a means to independently register statements without having first to get past a belligerent police officer. The “filtering” of evidence to serve their purpose
has to stop.
We could then hold the Police properly to account when they fail top protect us. No more resigning to escape punishment. It would also have a cost saving side in that any compensation should be dependent on a timely first reporting of the crime.
We do not want a Police force that seems to be clean due to lack of information emerging, but one that is known to be clean. It is the fact they think they are protected that results in these incidents.
Ignoring crime is a crime. Ignoring evidence that does not fit their purpose is a crime. But to go so far as creating evidence is just unbelievable.
If this is the case then justice has to be seen. What about all those real police officers that have to go out daily into the communities. They need to know that they can be trusted. This has to be settled or we are living the end game.
When I need to give the police a statement, I email it to them. Of course, then, an inspector tells me it would be really ‘helpful’ if I come down to the station to give an interview, and I tell him he should have everything he needs, but to feel free to ask for details. So he tells the IPCC that I was ‘unwilling’ to provide the information.
I have audio evidence that the recollection of police officers is either unreliable in the extreme, or that they intentionally make things up, but they still think I should be happy to rely on their account of events.
If policemen on the beat were always ‘wired’ for audio, they would behave themselves a bit more. Not to mention, have real evidence when being genuinely abused by the public. Win-win?
I have no idea why I typed ‘Already’, when I meant to type ‘Although’. Well, I do sort of have an idea…
We all have evidence of bent coppers – but Camoron only wants to address that a Minister has been fitted up – and that that’s serious …
Plenty of Joe publics have been ‘fitted up’ – [Suits you sir] and don’t M’luds just love it [it's convenient] when the coppers say just enough in their log / in court – but never question the verasity of a coppers statement!!!
Finger out from up your jacksee Camoron. Oh isn’t your brother like gordo’s a fully paid up Bar Steward?
If you lie to a police officer, you can be arrested and charged with perverting the cause of justice.
If the police lie to you to trick you into incriminating yourself, nothing happens to them.
Hence the police lie with impunity
Hence the police routinely tell lies in the course of their normal duty.
Additionally, the police federation, the left wing police officer’s union, were determined to do damage to the government, so being a bunch of left wing lying sacks of shit, they lied their asses off, because that is simply all they know how to do. They cannot accept reality as it is, so they lie to themselves and everyone else to try to create a new reality more to their delusional liking.
Poor old Andrew Mitchell appears to have been unjustly smeared just like what I have been. With him it’s the police, with me the media falsely accusing me of being a womaniser, sexual predator, spy and trougher, all of which, of course, is not true. Boaz.
Gimme a chance, big boy.
xxx
O.K Noreen, meet mee outside the House at 6p.m. Boaz.
Don’t trust either. Ultimately they are all on the same side. And it is”bt mine
My moniker speaks volumes
Neither. And it’s “whom”.
It’s forgivable. “Who do you trust” is understood to be an elliptical phrase, “Who [is it that you trust]?” and so the nominative, as opposed to the objective, is permissible. Hardly a hanging offence, old chap; a horsewhipping will suffice.
Who do you trust” is understood to be an elliptical phrase
Nope. The pronoun “who” is the object of the verb “trust” with “you” as the nominative. It should be “whom”.
It’s as simple as that, child.
No it is not as simple as that. Grammar books are descriptive not prescriptive records of language usage. The “language evolves” argument applies.
“who do you trust” gets 49 million google hits whereas “whom do you trust” gets 108,000.
Such an inuquality suggests that in this common phrase ‘who’ is at worst acceptable and is now arguably the norm – innit?
In simplicity and simpler English – It’s a classic trick of divide and rule. Make one section argue for the left and the other for the right – when overwhelmingly [as on this blog] – neither are trusted because they both have form.
Even more awkward if you read this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20778264
“Police forces in England and Wales must improve plans to combat corruption in the service, inspectors have said. [...]
“It also found a further clampdown on the use of social media, such as Facebook and Twitter, was needed.
“Offensive language, comments on police procedure, negativity towards work and extreme opinions on government were among the examples, it said.”
Not the Labour Party.
STFU
Guido
Don’t forget this when you analyse the economy…
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-funniest-protest-signs.htm?x=194&y=142&PS=521%3A20
This one is more apropos – http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-funniest-protest-signs.htm?x=345&y=246&PS=521%3A23
I would trust Mitchell
Wasn’t he once done for shoplifting in Binns? Or was that an Andrew Mitchell from Roker?
Particularly amusing that the trap everyone was trying to get AM to fall into was that of questioning the police’s integrity.
Turns out the one thing we SHOULD have been questioning was the police’s integrity.
Lulz
Brian Paddock on the Daily Politics – He is a prime example of what is wrong with the police.
Coo ee
Paddick was a real laugh, he’s fucking bonkers. Mad as Hattie Harman.
DICK not DOCK.
But is he not reputed to be a dickdock?
My main client is Mr E Milliband , but I guess I could hover up some more tax payers money on any enquiry
Anyone who has been arrested by the police would not be very surprised.
Dirty Labour, quick to smear but slow to check the facts.
Are you calling me slow?!
Well, what do you expect from this daft woman? She is only a senior memn]ber of the country’s law making body. You can’t really expect the silly bitch to have any common sense to apply to simple thngs, can you?
Brian Paddick was a real hoot on the Daily Politics. He ‘claimed’ that the gate coppers rang thier mate to make up some story to get the incident out in the public domain. Paddick doesn’t think the plods have really done anything wrong.
So forging evidence, lying and fitting someone up is OK?
Mr Paddick listens to his husband too much.
Can’t wait to get married
help the police. beat yourself up.
Yes I saw Paddick say this…almost as though it was a routine thing that coppers do… get a mate to corroborate regardless of truth..yet no one apart from Operation Crossbow above has mentioned it. Obviously no shock to journalists for I see Paddick was on Channel 4 tonight saying having 20 officers on the case, was over the top.
Mr Pad his prick needs to remember the last time he attended a Lib Dem Conference in Bournemouth – but he suffers from convenient amnesia.
I punched a voter and didn’t have to resign.
We stitched up Mitchell with smears and forced him to quit.
Labour: it’s what we do.
nice one john..ever thought of joining the Met..it’s what we do..
Excepting below unread comments and elsewhere – did anyone catch that F-wit [Not fit for purpose] Reid being wheeled out on CH4 news tonight … F’ing commie marxist 5hit head.
Plod or Pleb?
Readers poll, you decide.
Margaret Curran on Daily Politics – Unbelievable two faced hypocrite.
I closed NOTW for institutional wrongdoings. Can we get the Met Pol shut and replaced with something that is actually fit for purpose? There is too much scandal swilling around the police.
I think you’ll find the Krays are no longer with us.
Neither
What sort of question is that to ask anyone from the Liverpool Area?
Police can be useful.
MPs are useless.
I beg to differ.
Police do more harm than good.
Corruption, racism, false imprisonment, etc etc
Is that why they all become stonecutters?
Imagine the uproar if the Tories released a poster
“Who do you trust – the Police or Liverpool football supporters”
It’s still there:
http://www.labour.org.uk/plebsforpolice
No law and order questions from EdM at PMQs today either!
The copper with a red rosette.
The question in the poster is false.
The real question is: Can you trust the state.
We don’t but they are trying hard to paint everything as being oh so rosy in the garden of England!
“Oxymoron of 2012″
Trust the Police?
none of the above
we can trust the withdrawal-of-labour party – to get it wrong
I am not a Labour Party Stooge
Mitchell must be a bit daft if he got to the age he is and not realised the plod are nothing but lying thug fucking bastards, arrogant bastards with a liking for screwing their plod mates wives because they are utter cun-ts.
All MP’s have to keep up the ruse of that our police are wonderful beings …
They [MP's] are part of the ruse.
The Police Federation, who were so loud about this matter and are now so quiet seem to be involved up to their trotters. A conspiracy? It only takes two people to make a conspiracy.
Considerably deeper than their trotters methinks
It’s starting to look a lot like Mitchell
There’s no neither option then?
Anyone with any substantive experience of the police knows that they are far less trustworthy than estate agents.
Lots of people are victims of the criminal justice system because of police lies. How would you like it if your spouse was in prison when they had done no wrong? The police have the power to easily stitch someone up. So they do it regularly.
Just look at the Lynette White murder case to see what happens.
And freemasonry is at the heart of this corruption.
Neither, obviously!
It’s clear there’s wrongdoing on the part of the police… a fit up and creating evidence…
However, I still think Mitchell called them plebs in an abusive tirade. If he hadn’t actually said anything at all, then surely he would have contested their version of events?
So, in short – I wouldn’t trust either party here.
http://fxbites.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/constabulary-duty.html
“Neither’ seems to be winning at the moment …
The answer to Guido’s question is clear : neither is to be trusted.
Perhaps they should all be trussed then?
Trust me,buy me dinner at the Ivy and I’ll tell you a story about , The Met the best coppers money can buy..and yes duggan did have a tactical nuke in his trousers, and tomlinson was armed too.
Guido left out ..The Church…Royalty..Newspapers..Bankers..and benefit scroungers…cos none of the above pay tax..
And Lawyers
“Who do you trust?”
Uniformed thugs with a penchant for lies and violence or suited political criminals with a liking for your money.
Mmmm. tough choice but I’ll say neither.
Is there a 3rd option – none of the above?
How do you know when an MP is lying ?
His lips move
If you trust anything one of these odious fuckers says
then you are on the wrong blog
It is not a question of trust .
I just want my money refunded please.
‘Who do you trust?’… hard one that…er…neither!
Yes – the question was put wrong – who do you trust slightly the least most, I suppose itshould and has got to be,.And since coppers are the puppets of the tories since their time began, it has got to be coppers, just slightly.