December 18th, 2012

Lord McAlpine Posts a Giant Turd to Sally for Christmas


  1. 1
    Cluster and Fuck litigation attorneys says:


    • 5
      Lord Mandelbum of Fondleboys says:

      I suppose it’ll make a change from the small turd that she’s married to.

    • 14
      Mark Oaten says:

      Please. please, please can I have one Santa?

      • 21
        Don't look over there, look over here!!! says:

        Tony Blair: immigration has been good for Britain

        Top few comments…

        “What he means is “immigration has been great for large companies and has depressed wages for everyone else”.

        It’s no coincidence he’s paid several million pounds a year by a large investment bank.”

        “And difficult to see how 370,000 immigrants in receipt of benefits is contributing to this country”

        “Why is he allowed to comment as a free man when he is responsible for an untold number of deaths?

        The man is a traitor and a warmonger besides being a deluded fool, would imprisonment cure him? It has to be the noose, it simply has to be.”

        “What a contemptible grub Blair is. The debate is not about the benefits of immigration. The debate is about an orgy of uncontrolled, mass immigration which has put intolerable pressures on jobs, infrastructure and societal cohesiveness. The debate is about immigrants who come to the UK and make no NET contribution because they immediately start sucking on the public tit”

        “rubbish a deliberate ploy by Labour to get labour votes and dilute the indigenous culture.”

        • 36
          Old Tory Bigot says:

          Still ‘rubbing our noses in it’.

          The odious fucking creep.

        • 40
          Dick Scratcher says:

          Oiiii. We’re doing turd jokes, so just STFU.

        • 41
          Neo Rupert says:

          Look at his track record, one conclusion can be drawn from his actions, like any good Communist, he was trying to destroy Britain as we know it, history will judge him as one of this Countries Worst Disasters.
          Beware Labours ulterior motive.

          • Handycock Immigrant Trafficker says:

            Well done Tone. Boaz.

          • Scotticanus Ortus says:

            There’s a far worse and far more frightening possibility: he actually thought he was doing the right thing.

            Actually, there’s an even worse reading than that: Blair looks at this country now and thinks it has changed for the better since 1997.

            Those possibilities frighten me far more than the simple idea that he acted malevolently to destroy the country.

          • The Chainsaw of Righteous Justice says:

            That could be the case, but it is no excuse.

            He needs to be brought to account for his actions. To quote one of the Telegraph comments:

            ‘The man is a traitor and a warmonger besides being a deluded fool, would imprisonment cure him? It has to be the noose, it simply has to be.’

          • Superman says:

            The country has changed for the better since the Curry fucking Major was ousted. The trains run on time almost as well as in Mussolinis day!

          • Maqboul says:

            In 1997 no man had a better mandate from the British people to do something profound for the country. Blair completely blew it.

        • 48
          Mercantist says:

          The calculations fo the benefits never take account of the masses of money that is sent abroad in remittances: money which, if earned by british people, would have been retained and spent in this country (give or take the odd holiday) and thereby boosted the economy due to the multiplier effect.

        • 142
          Anonymous says:

          Excellent piece. In total agreement with you sir.

      • 183
        nemo says:

        On the ‘ead son

    • 16
      Dick Scratcher says:

      Yuletide log.

    • 22
      Sally Bercow says:

      I said “Show me emotion” !

    • 25
      Anal Discharge says:

      Bloody disgusting

    • 30
      Lord Mandelbum of Fondleboys says:

      Why oh why does the word Jurd appear to be filtered for moderation (when not bypassed by those wot know better) Guido, given that’s the topic of this thread?

    • 42
      Neo Rupert says:

      What happened to the first two?

    • 76
      CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

      Top letter…

      SIR – Well done: a kick in the pants is often a good motivator, though I have no illusions after living here for 25 years that much will change. Asking a socialist to embrace austerity and labour-market reforms is like asking a prostitute to embrace chastity: it’s simply not part of the business model.

      Theo Vermaelen
      Fontainebleau, France

      • 147
        Former Accountant says:

        If it is unacceptable that those on Benefits should be receiving more than the Average Wage (and it is)…. then it is also unacceptable that Public Servants (eg: Local Government Chief Executives) should receive more than the average wage in Pension. Those on £200,000 pa can very well afford their own Private Pension – and they can all do so because it is ‘tax-efficient’. This is a scandal which must be tackled by George Osborne at the earliest opportunity (eg: NOW).

    • 84
      MP's Pensions says:

      Sign the petition at the above link about MP’s pensions if you agree.

      • 105
        Spartacus says:

        the apostrophe should follow the s . . . S’ign. OK?

      • 115
        CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

        Bad idea.

        MPs will then have an incentive to boost extortion funded pensions to even less affordable levels.

      • 148
        Former Accountant says:

        If it is unacceptable that those on Benefits should be receiving more than the Average Wage (and it is)…. then it is also unacceptable that Public Servants (eg: Local Government Chief Executives) should receive more than the average wage in Pension. Those on £200,000 pa can very well afford their own Private Pension – and they can all do so because it is ‘tax-efficient’. This is a scandal which must be tackled by George Osborne at the earliest opportunity (eg: NOW).

    • 264
      English Language GCSE June 2012 paper says:

      Q: Which King George was a nutter?

      A: The turd.

    • 363
      Lostprophets says:

  2. 2
    We'll See says:

    Billy Bowden is first

  3. 3
    Derek says:


    not funny

  4. 4
    Jonny says:

    What. The fuck. Is that.

  5. 6
    Obergruppenführer Jackenmeister Smit, referring to those Place Mats, hoping to avoid any comeback says:

    Inspired by Her Maj, I have to again say how dreadfully grateful I am to the punters for my lovely bath plug, given me so long ago, but still providing wonderful service and many lovely memories each time I feel its rippling gripping smoothness that always pulls and pushes me towards the ultimate bathing experience.

    • 29
      Damned Impertinent Questions says:

      I am delighted to learn that your bath is still being plugged on a regular basis

  6. 7
    Perse O'Nally says:

    She’d think it was a giant Walnut Whip!

  7. 8
    Kent Constable says:

    I thought that WAS Sally TALKING to Lord WHATZINEHME

  8. 10
    Mark Oaten says:

    That’s my Christmas Dinner!

  9. 11
    David Brede says:

    How did he fit into the envelope?

  10. 13
    Sammy Groves says:

    As a labour supporter i find this rather offensive. Please remove it!

    • 34

      As a Labour supporter, you are offensive. please remove yourself.

      • 186
        nemo says:

        But you got to think here, “labour supporter” *smiley face sally* does sound rather like an overworked sweaty maternity truss of some sort….but what alien life-form is Labour going to give birth to? *horrified face just like slotgobs*

  11. 16
    mark outen says:

    Is that a coffee table and turd?

  12. 18
    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

    This was my finest hour.

  13. 19
    I Fist my own Arse by Using my Own Head says:

    I can’t say what I posted to Giddy Gosbourne for Christmas……..

  14. 20
    Damned Impertinent Questions says:

    And I thought that the squeaker was only a little shit

  15. 22
    My hubby used to play conkers for Lancs, doncha know says:

    it’s not steaming

  16. 24
    Damned Impertinent Questions says:

    Dear Sally

    I was sitting today when suddenly something reminded me of you and your dear husband…….

  17. 26
    Repeating rubbish can make you deaf and daft says:

    Considering she’s a nobody, she seems to have become a famous nobody, nothing like a bit of PR.

  18. 31
    I d on't nee d no doctor says:

    And still the instigator, Tom Watson, hides behind parliament. Watson has been very quiet of late, what’s the matter fatty, lost your vile hypocritical tongue?

  19. 32
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Assuming it’s not a Photoshop montage, I’m intrigued to know what the hell it actually is?

    A bronze statuette of a conga eel?

  20. 37
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I thought she married a small turd?

  21. 38
    Ed Miliband says:

    Looks like Gordon’s been in McA’s office again. Naughty Gordon!

    • 93
      Gordoom says:

      That’s growth of more than 10%

      I achieved it with concentration , hard work, and weetabix.

  22. 39
    Gordon Brown says:

    Sorry Alistair – I took a wrong turning on the way to the lavvy.

  23. 46
    Anonymous says:

    Which one is the turd?

  24. 47
    Neo Rupert says:

    Sally takes her own Midget for throwing at Party Games.

  25. 49
    Time for Decency says:

    Blair is the worst thing that ever set foot on this earth, he lied over the Iraq war and ultimately responsible for thousand of deaths of innocent people. Blair intentionally set out to change the demographics of this country alongside Brown and Mandelson, they set the ball rolling for the genocide of the British people which in itself is a crime and they should face the jury of all these crimes. How anyone could ever vote for the treacherous Labour Party is simply beyond me and unfortunately David Cameron is helping them as he is a socialist. We urgently need some of the decent members of the Conservative Party to reject Cameron and set up to run our Country properly, joining Ukip if necessary. You responsible Conservatives,’ This Country Needs You ‘ !!

    • 52
      its bleak in sunderland says:

      Hear Hear Hear!

    • 55
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      We urgently need some of the decent members of the Conservative Party ……….

      Yes, but how can we tell who they are?

    • 57
      He who no longer posts says:

      But he did attended the baptism of Murdoch’s children at the River Jordan garbed in white robes

      Somebody must have a picture?

    • 70
      Marmite says:

      Very well said TFD. Best comment/observation for ages.

      BLiar & his cronies should be tried for tre*son.

      • 110
        Anonymous says:

        700 hundred comments so far on Blair never read so much vile being spewed at the wanker in the telegraph ist class bastard.

    • 137
      Bliar WarCrimes Watch says:

      That’s hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian casualties: Men, women and children.

      Never forget that DU is the gift that keeps on given, as far as birth defects and killing the subsequent generations in concerned.

      They may as well bury him under that public convenience he was allegedly caught cottaging in when he eventually off’s it. Will save a lot of cleaning up for the grounds staff.

      • 343
        Ironside says:

        Which public convenience though ?
        He was caught twice.
        Once in London when he was a young barrister, and much later in John Smith’s time in Edinburgh.
        John Smith as leader of the labour party was desperate to keep him in the fold so he had a ‘D’ Notice put on the second one.

        • 352
          copper-bottomed says:

          .. and was promptly bumped off??? There remain unanswered questions/suspicions about Mr Smith’s early demise.

          • Ironside says:

            As in Gaitskell to Wilson (Russian Agent), Smith to Blair (New World Order, Bilderberg etc).

            Quite obvious, really.

  26. 51
    King Tvrd of Shit Mountain says:

    Silly Sally should apologise and pay damages. It will cost her even more if she doesn’t. She is obviously banking on the publicity she will get if it goes to court.

    • 63
      Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

      Read The Slog, Mr T u r d,

      Learned Counsel reckon McA would be laughed out of court if Sally takes him on, which she seems to want to do.

      His lawyers are using bully-boy tactics on a case that has zero merit. McA could end up paying her costs.

      • 64
        Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

        Here’s a taster:

        McALPINE LIBEL DEMANDS: Legal watchdog rules show Peer and lawyer on dodgy ground.

        The lawyers’ watchdog the Solicitors’ Regulation Authority (SRA) takes a very dim view of certain practices when it comes to suing for libel. The Slog believes that anyone surveying the precedents and agreed practices involved would fairly swiftly reach the conclusion that Lord McAlpine and his legal creature RMPI are already in breach of some of them.

        • 75
          McAlpine Watch says:

          He should have really gone after Alan Davis. That more open and shut.

          Sally has demonstrated that she is a foul airhead tweeter since she got her account back up, no doubt all of these and those previous may need to be examined in order to determine if the * innocent face * was indeed sarcastic.

          She should have used * astonished face * or * surprised face * instead. ‘Innocent’ has been twisted by the PC brigade to mean guilty too much to be taken seriously.

          * oops, pointed out a major problem in the UK face *

  27. 54
    Leo Pard says:

    Whose skin is he sitting on?

  28. 58
    Nadine Dorries says:

    The Queen was locked in the cabinet for half an hour today.

    When my nan did that we had to put her into a home.

  29. 61
    He who no longer posts says:

    Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran. Wiki

    As background to that Seen Elsewhere item referred to above. I had never heard of them before.

    • 66
      Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

      Brilliant channel.

      No adverts or fiX Factor

      • 71
        He who no longer posts says:

        No wonder you post what you do on the unregulated internet.

      • 88
        Bored of trade says:

        Are you going to give your lunatic alter ego youtubing buddy another runout tonight?

        Quite toned down for you, TaT. But still nutshittingly mental head.

    • 68
      Alternative Media says:

      They have been around for a while – Keiser has done some interesting interviews with them.

      Think: RT / Al Jazeera type broadcaster: This is the area, just Iranian backed, so like a moderate muzzie Murdoch operation with a Jihad bias. This is not that dissimilar to the BBC now I come to think of it…

      • 73
        He who no longer posts says:

        Bit harsh on Press TV, isn’t that?

        • 81
          Alternative Media says:

          Well – they are moderate and professional, but is honest.

          I should retract fully comparison to the BBC though, a line crossed. Sorry.

          Note: Jihad does not mean terrorism – I did mean above in the more common context of the daily battle to be true to the faith. But as a state broadcaster they are still a propaganda organ.

          The above article is a lift of some real news, and a bunch of blog articles: Accuracy of the blogs yet to be determined, but good to see these condensed into a coherent narrative to compare against the ‘official’ story, and it is always good to question inconsistencies.

          • He who no longer posts says:

            Quranic hermeneutics are dependent upon the very different schools of interpretation encountered.

          • CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

            “Jihad does not mean terrorism”, not but it implies it. Jihad means imposing the koran on others. terrorism is just one of the tactics used to do this.

          • Alternative Media says:

            The ‘struggle’ translation has been my experience with all muzzies from many parts of the world.

            ie. Jihad is the struggle against non believers to preserve ones own faith, in particular avoiding temptation like liquor, hookers etc., and the internal struggle to deny sin, thinking about liquor, hookers etc.

            The more extreme translations and interpretations are there but have been played up a bit. However – I will not question your own personal experiences with them as they are likely different to my own.

            Fatwa is the puppy to avoid, and I had to qualify as I do not want a fatwa issued against my IP.

          • Grumpy old git says:

            Someone analysed classic Islamic religious texts and found that 80% of the time jihad meant warfare against the infidel: for quite a while Muslims stopped pretended it meant anything else, but it looks like they’ve decided to start playing that particular game again. The Press TV article linked to, about the school shootings in America being instigated by I*ra*li death-squads to punish the US for promoting Hagel, is insane.

  30. 62
    R Swiper says:

    A giant turd to go with the miniature one she is married to. She is collecting the set!

  31. 69
    Dave Cameron,Painter & Decorator says:

    I was caught short while doing some building work on a house, so I decided to poke my head around the door and ask, “excuse me, love, do you mind If I use your toilet?”

    “Sure,” She replied, “but can you get the fuck out until I’ve finished.”

  32. 74
    Jay says:

    Which is which?

  33. 78
    Bill Wagstick says:

    Dear Santa I have been a good boy

  34. 79
    the late great frank carson says:

    What do you call an Irishman who can swim? A Welshman.

  35. 80
    The Rabid Right says:

    Hello righties. Just wondering, if one of your kids came to you one day and said they were gay, would you disown them? Kick them out? Have them killed? Or if they came to you and said they were dating a blàck person, would you react in any of those ways?

    • 83
      left, right, it's all the fucking same says:

      The Tory Party is riddled with gayers you fucking nutter.

    • 89
      A Libertarian says:

      You seem to be addressing yourself to the wrong audience. Try the hypocritical left. They are the ones who like to play those sort of parlour games at their Hampstead dinner parties. (Washing-up done by the lesbian filipina maid, naturally).

      • 97
        The Rabid Right says:

        Wrong audience? This is the board where the daily comments consist of playground lever homophobic jokes. That is, of course, your right in free speech. My question wasn’t over your right to hate whoever you want, it was regarding how some of you would react if one of your children was gay.

        • 100
          The Real Right says:

          Spend a few days reading on what they have to say over at the Cato institute, and maybe look up Boaz. Then pop back, and you will not have to ask silly questions about how we think a parent would react to the orientation or life choices of our children.

        • 103
          Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

          RR you’ve hit a raw nerve. Their Party legislating for gay marriage has pushed many of them right over the edge.

          Many will never recover.

          • A Libertarian says:

            Gays can marry now, or at least have civil partners. Most people are pretty cool with that. What has pissed people off is the idea of legisisation imposing a particular position on unwilling religious organisations.

          • CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

            You have to remember that the left is sociopathic and other people’s opinions are not considered. They have a mind unable to hold that certain people might choose different things from them, and that both parties might be better off (for their own circumstances).

    • 91
      Leftie eco loon says:

      If any child of mine said they were thinking of using coal I’d kill them with a pair of ecological sound wooden shears. Then bury the body for compost. Then grow weed on the composting grave and smoke it in the memory of my disowned and deceased offspring.

    • 92
      The voice of reason says:


    • 94
      Anonymous says:

      Don’t like the Poor’s myself

    • 104
      CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

      Your inner-hate manifests itself by talking about those you despise.

    • 106
      Rightie says:

      “Have them killed?”

      Like thrown off a mountain? Those are Labour voters honey.

    • 135
      Mrs Kindleysides, Penrith & gay son says:

      You’re so stupid why do you think should anyone take a blind bit of notice of what you say?

      You really are ignorant. You listen too to much hate propaganda spewed forth from the left towards the right.

      You should get out there are meet real people; you may then realise generalisations are rather stupid.

    • 307
      The Sheikh Of Arabee says:

      Fuck off, turd.

      Families usually deal with this kind of shite quite well; it’s only when the arse-bandits fuck off to London or Manchester because, being the fucking drama queens they are, they feel the need to over-dramatise their plight. There aren’t all that many queers anyway. The one or two I’ve known over the years are pretty fucking ordinary, really. It’s just the shouty fuckers who make an issue out of something that’s actually not all that important.

      Fuck off and be a Lefty dick on the Staggers page, or knock one out over some homo porn- there’s loads of it around on the web these days.

  36. 86
    Mark Oaten says:

    Tonight I’m watching some of my favourite films.

    The Dark Shite
    The Dark Shite Rises
    Eyes Wide Shit
    The Turd Man
    Close Encounters of the Turd Kind
    Faecal Attraction

  37. 90
    Mark Oaten says:

    Tonight I’m watching my favourite films.

    The Turd Man
    Faecal Attraction
    Close Encounters of the Turd Kind

  38. 95
    Sally Bercow says:

    A giant turd — Don’t talk about my Jonny like that!!!!

  39. 98
    Kangaroo Bondage Time says:


    I’m the leader, I’m the leader, I’m the leader of the gang I am
    I’m the leader, I’m the leader, Well there’s no one like the man I’m
    I can take you high as a kite every single night
    I can make you jump out of bed standing on my head


    • 119
      Red Egg Millitwit....... says:

      Oh how the young girls would sing and dance to this…… thank you so much, they must have so many happy memories :)

    • 124
      Singer & Musician says:

      No No No.

      You Hum it and I will sing & play it.

  40. 112
    Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

    “Muslim leaders have demanded the same legal exemptions as the Church of England in legislation to introduce gay marriages.

    The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), with more than 500 affiliated mosques, charities and schools, said it was “appalled” by “utterly discriminatory” legislation on same-sex marriage set out by the government.

    The proposals would allow faith groups to conduct gay marriages but would ban the CofE and the Church in Wales from doing so”

    • 116
      A Libertarian says:

      Don’t blame them. Religious organisations should be protected from the ideological impositions of the state.

      • 120
        Red Egg Millitwit....... says:

        The state should f*ck off out of crap like this !!

      • 129
        Constitution Watch says:

        Curiously, only the C of E enjoys that protection under the 1297 Magna Carta statutes which are still in force.

        In addition to liberty of the press, protection of religious freedoms for all other than C of E would be good constitutional amendments to have incorporated into the 1689 Bill of Rights.

        A smart move for all the non C of E religions in the UK right now would be to join forces in drafting a petition demanding this protection for religion.

        • 150
          Tachybaptus says:

          Іt wоuld bе nісе tо sее thе Shі’іtеs shаkіng hаnds wіth thе Јеws аbоut sоmеthіng.

        • 161
          Engineer says:

          Which is odd really, since in 1297 the C of E was not even a twinkle in Henry VIII’s eye.

          • He who no longer posts says:

            Indeed, Henry VIII was not even a twinkle in Henry VII’s eye, who himself was not even a twinkle in Edmund Tudor’s eye, who in turn was not even a twinkle in Owen Tudor’s eye. His father Maredudd ap Tudur died in 1406 so we still have over a century to regress to the Magna Carta of Edward I.

          • Sir William Waad says:

            The C of E was set up by Elizabeth I. Henry VIII always regarded himself as a Catholic.

          • Engineer says:

            Was he not the first (self-proclaimed) Defender of the Faith (his own, since the Pope had given him the order of the boot)?

            Academic, really. The main point is that the final version of Magna Carta predated the C of E by a couple of centuries.

          • He who no longer posts says:

            Well, Henry’s Act of Supremacy disappeared for a while (rather like part of your name!)

            Good to see you fully restored. We never know when someone will need to be hung, drawn and quartered…

          • Tachybaptus says:

            Pope Leo X granted the title of Defender of the Faith to Henry VIII in 1521, after Henry had written (or ghost-written?) a religious tract, Assertio Septem Sacramentorum (‘Declaration of the Seven Sacraments’), which defended the sacrament of marriage and the supremacy of the Pope. This, of course, was nine years before the bust-up with Catherine of Aragon and consequently with the Pope. Catherine was already a Defender of the Faith in her own right.

          • Tachybaptus says:

            Please excuse cack-handed mistyping of the italics off tag in the above.

          • He who no longer posts says:

            Worry not, it happens to us all at some time, Tachy. ;-)

            I have always wondered what Henry was thinking whilst he was writing Assertio Septem Sacramentorum. The very number of references in it to Luther meant that he would have studied the Ninety-Five Theses in great detail. I am sure that his initial response was to address them critically because he was educationally well equipped to do so and for no other reason (related say to currying favour.)

            However as we know all this was to change within a decade. My interest here is the process in his mind that enabled that 180° turn to take place. Having initially written his piece he did nothing about it for a while almost as if the process of authorage had got it out of his system. But on the ground things were changing across the water and he must have been kept up to date with the rather bumpy progress taking place. Being called a pig, a dolt and a liar by Luther must have also sharpened his interest somewhat!

            We can never know but was it simply expediency that turned his mind or did the thinking of Luther percolate into Henry’s considerations to the point that, when the Pope refused him a divorce, Henry was already kicking at an open door? In this intervening period, Luther married Katherine, a nun and went on to bear him six children. Such a previously unheard of act by a priest would surely have not been lost on Henry. Here was thought backed up by action, considered by many to be reckless but also clearly complimentary to each other. However, in Luther’s case the timings mitigate against the marriage being the cause of the Theses.

            We can only wonder but I have always left open the possibility in my mind that Henry’s actions in turning against the Church of Rome went beyond the undoubted need he felt to produce an heir which eventually and inevitably gets debased into the man follows his cock argument.

            Presumably if our host had been around at the time, he would have stood out against the sale of indulgences too. :-)

    • 127
      Operation Crossbow says:

      But Muslims have no problem marrying children though

      • 355
        copper-bottomed says:

        .. and if they don’t like this potential change to our laws, they can all catch the next plane to Mecca or Calcutta.

    • 366
      Blimey says:

      The Muslim Council of Britain wants to be banned from doing something they aren’t going to be doing anyway. Anything less will be discrimination. Surely they should also be seeking legislation banning them from drinking alcohol and eating pork?

  41. 121
    Hugh Seddit says:

    Call Units Night Time

  42. 125
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I thought that was a model of Prezza on the table!

  43. 126
    David Cameron says:

    So revolted by what’s going on in this country, I’m relieved my father’s no longer alive to see what’s happening.

    • 128
      Operation Crossbow says:

      UKIP will be a joke until Farage sorts out the nutters

      • 143
        Londoner says:

        Which is a pity. Most of the parties are plagued by nutters. There are some complete dingbats in the Labour, Green and Libdem parties in my part of London. (The Tories no longer exist as an organised entity where I live).

        • 174
          Engineer says:

          If you look at most parliamentary candidates and think that they are the cream of the crop, it does make you wonder what some of the less blessed specimens of local parties are like. Also, politics does seem to be one of those fields of human endeavor that attracts those with personality traits you’d try to avoid in the pub.

    • 296
      CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

      Anyone asked the Fabian Society if they’d like him instead?

  44. 132
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Ed Miliband making a total tit of himself once again.

  45. 133
    nellnewman says:

    Hmmm – would have been more in the keeping of the Spirit of Xmas if his Lordship had he asked sally to make a substantial contribution to a charity of his choice as reparation.

    • 152
      Ol' Crummy says:

      A spell in the pillory with a sign “I am a loudmouth shrew” should not be ruled out of the question either. ‘Twas how we did it in my day.

    • 158
      I d on't nee d no doctor says:

      Don’t agree Nell. Sally Bercow deserves all she gets, and hopefully she will have to pay up. She is the kind of stupid person that can ruin lives. No sympathy here.

    • 170
      He who no longer posts says:

      The issue of culpability surely needs to be decided first. Then is the time for his Lordship to be magnanimous and give it to charity IMO. Since he suffered real wrong here, I for one would not blame him for pocketing it. Don’t forget Sally has responded to the writ with her familiar one fingered salute.

    • 344
      Ironside says:

      She would reject it.
      She wants a courtroom fight – she is in love with herself and wants the publicity.
      Even if means financially damaging her husband who will be saddled with the costs.
      It’s a perfect set-piece for her – the most cost-efficient publicity anyone can get.

  46. 138
    One says:

    One has to ask if My Noble Lord would like a placemat.

  47. 141
    Sally's sister says:

    Put it with the others.

  48. 145
    Tom Fatson says:

    Fingers in ears, chant LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA…

  49. 149
    VoteUkip says:

    I wonder if Andrew Mitchell will be able to sue The Sun and others for libel now?

    • 206
      Legal Eagle says:

      He should have a case, provided the publications cannot prove any allegations they printed about him.

      If the police evidence is proven beyond doubt to be false, they will settle out of court. They have already probably cancelled office parties in preparation for this.

  50. 151
    The Rabid Right says:

    Looks like you all owe an apology to Channel 4 News, given your usual barrage against them, now that their lead story tonight has been to basically exonerate Andrew Mitchell. Your default rants are to say “headline will be about baby eating tories”.

    • 154

      A message from the me, chief Lefty Loser.

    • 160
      I d on't nee d no doctor says:

      I for one do not like C4 news one bit, but I must take my hat off to Crick for his investigative work. Can’t wait for further developments.

    • 188
      Can't use me old moniker says:

      Crick was, in my opinion, very fair, I got the impression that snow was less than excited over this than had it been a libore minister stiched up. He can often work himself up in a froth, all boney stabing fingers and sneers, when cross questioning a Tory.

      • 337
        Blowing Whistles says:

        Snow lost the argument against the NRA man on the box on monday night – BIG TIME.

  51. 155
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Will Deadwood eat his words?

    • 165
      Fishy says:

      I think that the problem here is that the BBC have been ‘riding shotgun’, covering Weird Ed’s back for him over the past two years.

      This has given the impression that he and Balls have had the upper hand. But remember: This episode reminds us that Labour are as incompetent in opposition are they were in Government – perhaps even more so.

      They have had no policies, it’s just been attack, attack, attack. When someone actually lifts the drains to see what’s there, it all falls apart.

      Time to turn the tables and expose Labour for the scum that they are.

      PS: Nothing on the BBC News website front page. What a surprise!

    • 166
      genghiz the kahn says:

      Crick turns plebgate into plodgate.

  52. 157
    Fishy says:

    “Case against Mitchell looking flimsier tonight, footage shows no blazing row. Denunciation by off duty copper looking unreliable.”

    You bet it does given that the ‘witness was never there’. The police need to get to the bottom of how the non-existent witness’ statement came to be ‘remarkably similar’ to the police log. It suggests not just wrong-doing by the ‘witness’ but by one or more officers on duty that night.

    Also, the leaders of West Midlands Police Federation, who called for Mitchell to resign should consider their position as it appears they were less than truthful when they emerged from their meeting with Mitchell. If they are serving officers / Pilgrims, they should also be investigated.

  53. 167
    Jimmy's Rightie Quote Of The Day says:

    “Other items for review: ceasing all free IVF treatment on the NHS; cutting unecessary waste e.g the destruction of drugs in care homes when residents move on to the next care home or the next world; the pregnancy abortion time limit; compulsory abortion when the foetus is detected as having Downs, Spina Bifida or similar syndrome which, if it is born, could render the child a burden on the state as well as on the family. CLARIFICATION TO AVOID CONFUSION AND MISREPRESENTATION: I do not, and UKIP does not, endorse any of these ideas: they are suggestions of matters for the review body to properly consider in light of the stated desire of all political parties to reduce the national debt…..

    “Any organisation’s image is always improvable, and in my opinion our party’s image is much improvable. Many voters still believe we are the BNP in disguise, are extremists, madmen or dotty. Although they don’t tell me this to my face when I campaign (perhaps because I am clearly not a madman nor dotty) I sincerely believe that many are thinking it.”

    [Geoffrey Clark, candidate for Nothebeeyenpee National Exec and Gravesham Council]

    So many more to choose from…

    p.s. Busy day for rightie nutters, honourable mention to former Arizona GOP Treasurer Mike Harris:

  54. 168
    Jimmy's Rightie Quote Of The Day says:

    “Other items for review: ceasing all free IVF treatment on the NHS; cutting unecessary waste e.g the destruction of drugs in care homes when residents move on to the next care home or the next world; the pregnancy abortion time limit; compulsory abortion when the foetus is detected as having Downs, Spina Bifida or similar syndrome which, if it is born, could render the child a burden on the state as well as on the family. CLARIFICATION TO AVOID CONFUSION AND MISREPRESENTATION: I do not, and UKIP does not, endorse any of these ideas: they are suggestions of matters for the review body to properly consider in light of the stated desire of all political parties to reduce the national debt…..

    “Any organisation’s image is always improvable, and in my opinion our party’s image is much improvable. Many voters still believe we are the B*P in disguise, are extremists, madmen or dotty. Although they don’t tell me this to my face when I campaign (perhaps because I am clearly not a madman nor dotty) I sincerely believe that many are thinking it.”

    [Geoffrey Clark, candidate for Nothebeeyenpee National Exec and Gravesham Council]

    So many more to choose from…

    p.s. Busy day for rightie nutters, honourable mention to former Arizona GOP Treasurer Mike Harris:

  55. 171
    The Rabid Righties says:

    This made my day! Just saw footage of the Queen’s visit to Cabinet. When she met George Osborne, she asked what had happened to the gold bars at the Bank of England. He replied that some of them had been sold, which the Channel 4 reporter rightly said was “a dig at Gordon Brown”. :-D

    You see, righties? I may say a few things about you that you don’t like, but we’re united in our hatred of Gordon Brown.

  56. 175
    Milicunt says:

    You’re more likely to see John Prescott go on a diet than see Ed Miliband apologise for his defamatory comments about Mitchell.

  57. 177
    King Richard I says:

  58. 178
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Plod telling lies and making things up and falsifying evidence. Who’d have thought our police could ever do such a thing?

  59. 181
    Milicunt says:

    Who was behind this stitch-up of Andrew Mitchell? Did Labour get the police to lie?

    What’s staggering is that these coppers lied about there being a massive crowd of eyewitnesses. Did they not realise CCTV footage could be checked as it now has been?

    • 211
      Operation Crossbow says:

      Have you spoken to a plod? They are the thickest people you can imagine, they don’t think their lies through. I notice the BBC are playing this story right down now, yet plebgate was top billing for days. Funny that.

      • 291
        CarryHole is a Utter Hunt says:

        Same as ClimateGate.

        You don’t think they report anything that doesn’t fit their narrative do you?

  60. 185
    Milicunt says:

    Ed Miliband will now do an Abrahams and go into hiding, refusing to apologise.

  61. 190
    Engineer says:

    It’s an initiative test.

  62. 193
    Dirty tricks says:

    The Mitchell stitch-up has the stench of Labour all over it. Right about now they’ll be wanting to wring Michael Crick’s neck for uncovering the scandal.

    • 208
      Operation Crossbow says:

      Labour, the unions and the dead tree press who just wanted to get at Cameron over Leveson.

  63. 194
    brown eye says:

    you need a big ringpiece to squeeze out a turd with a girth like that

  64. 196
    Despairing Sane Blue says:

    O/T The DT has become a comment dump for Ukippers frustrated that buggery isn’t illegal.

  65. 202
    paddy power says:

    What are the odds of Mitchell returning to the cabinet as police minister…

  66. 205
    Tom Fatson says:


    • 216
      Curious says:

      Why doesn’t he just ask for all of the officers involved to be summarily dismissed from their posts? Without pension rights.

      • 359
        You got it in one says:

        What a good idea!

        Then, and only then, would plod get up off their fat arses and properly investigate all the 650 MPs for tax and expenses fraud and other malfeasance(s) in public office.

  67. 207
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Sky News still peddling Sun story as correct. How can Joey Jones think that any of the police version of events is now credible when we know that the ‘witness’ is a plod who wasn’t even there and who has the same story as the police log which is also wrong in part?

    The Sun is standing by its story, really? I remember Piers Morgan standing by the faked photos of the soldiers beating up an Iraqi man, it cost Morgan his job and credibility.

    Mitchell has stuck to same story yet the police seemed to be out to get him or at least their union was.

    • 210
      Legal Eagle says:

      The Sun will not want to admit liability when there is a guaranteed Libel in the works shortly after new years. Sky may also be in the same situation.

      They will be looking to settle out of court on this one, and print the retractions after.

      • 223
        Operation Crossbow says:

        Yes but to try to claim that both versions of events are of equal value still when we know one contains lies and untruths and the only ‘witness’ is from someone who pretended to be a member of the public but is in fact a serving police officer and has admitted they were not even there makes me trust the police not at all.

        • 233
          Legal Eagle says:

          I agree that for the force as a whole this looks bad, and for many people the circumstances here may be all to familiar.

          Always be careful when interacting with the police.

          The maxim is, even if not formally under caution, anything you say may and will be used against you.

      • 298
        Timmy Tin Foil says:

        Apropos of absolutely nothing, I recall an old Rumpole Of The Bailey episode in which Rumpole was prevailed upon to defend in a defamation action rather than in one of his more usual criminal cases. The upshot was that it was a collusive suit in which each of the litigants was looking to screw the newspaper that printed the story. The editor defames some woman, she sues for a half-mill, turns out she’s his “bit on the side” and she’s tired of being reported in the paper as a nudge-nudge, wink-wink, “that sort of woman” in connection with her love life and previous boyfriends. He’s going to stick it to them because they’ve asked him to retire. They’re going to use the money to set themselves up in some small country where 500K in 1980′s money would allow them to live like royals. Not saying the Sun is looking to bung Mitchell in a roundabout way (What would they be getting for their money? Has he given them anything before, in his previous stint as the overseas development minister, or even before that?), but stranger things have happened.

    • 229
      Legal Eagle says:

      Further, despite what we have seen in the video, it has not been formally proven yet that the police account of the interaction is false.

      The PNB account if found false is serious: Fabrication of evidence is a very serious offence. Because there is no audio, and Mitchell’s lips are not visible, the only doubt as to the recorded exchange is cast by inconsistencies in other parts of the account. These are independent of the reported verbal exchange.

      It will eventually come down to Mitchell’s word against the police officer in question, in which case the officer will generally be believed unless he admits falsifying evidence.

      That issue may require a trial to resolve.

      Only once the police evidence, source for the media, is proven false, can any case against the media really proceed.

      In this case, unless there was direct media collusion in fabricating evidence, they were acting on what should have been unquestionably reliable source.

      If Mitchell does to sue for libel it may be a very interesting case.

      • 232
        The public says:

        ‘Evidence’? You seem to think that a criminal offence took place.

        However, for the police to lie, even about a trivial matter such as this, is serious as it shows they are not fit to hold their public offices.

      • 247
        Operation Crossbow says:

        What you mean even knowing the police account talks about several members of the public as witnesses and the fact the email sent came from a serving police officer whose account is almost identical to the police log?

        Plod is up to their fat red necks once again.

        • 290
          Legal Eagle says:

          The email was not sent on the night in question, nor was it sent by any of the officers involved. That is not relevant to what was recorded in the PNB on the night in question. The email is very much a separate and somewhat serious issue in its own right.

          Strictly speaking, unless it can be proven that the PNB record of the conversation is false it is Mitchell’s word against the police officers. Plenty of circumstantial, but it may still be difficult to convince a Judge that the verbal portion of the PNB record was fabricated, unless another witness can corroborate, or an audio recording of the interaction can be produced.

          However, one way this could go in court:

          The police may claim that the conversion to the point where Mitchell got off his bike took place whilst he was riding towards them. In the video, Mitchell’s back is to us, and we can only see the police who seem to be directing Mr. Mitchell towards the side gate.

          For the first part of the interaction, one would expect the officer to have noted that the conversation was shouted, or yelled. Speaking and said are recorded action, which unless the police have very good hearing may cast reasonable doubt on this portion of the account.

          Mr. Mitchell then gets off his bike, walks over and waits patiently looking down whilst the gate is open, then is off and away. We do not see him in front of the police officer as he exits.

          The officer claims he verbally warned Mitchell that his conduct could lead to a POA arrest, after Mitchell had got off his bike. This Mitchell has not denied thus far, and he has admitted to saying: ‘You guys are supposed to f*cking help us.’ which has not apparently been recorded.

          (The formal verbal warning is significant, these can remain on the record, and in some instances can show up on enhanced CRB checks. A police report was filed in this matter, which implies that this warning is currently formally recorded.)

          It is not clear on the video where that warning took place. You would expect it to be very obvious, as the officer should be commanding Mitchell’s attention clearly at this time.

          The big inconsistency is the shocked members of the public opposite the pedestrian gate. This is important, as if a POA prosecution had taken place, this is evidence that other members of the public have been harassed by the alleged conduct of Mr. Mitchell: A court could convict in this case with this evidence being provided by the police.

          That these members of the public do not appear to be there or indeed in a shocked state according to the video evidence casts serious doubt on this aspect of the recorded events.

          That this appears to be fabricated is somewhat serious.

          • Blowing Whistles says:

            THE PIGS USE ‘STILL PICS’ TO CONVICT DRIVERS …. every day.

            The Evidence is now in the Public Domain – and therefore it is a “Public Controversy” – which MUST BE RESOLVED PUBLICLY – and that’s in the legals’ BoldyArch crim bible.

          • Bluto says:

            “This is important, as if a POA prosecution had taken place, this is evidence that other members of the public have been harassed by the alleged conduct of Mr. Mitchell: A court could convict in this case with this evidence being provided by the police.”

            Absolute rubbish. People cannot be “harassed” by a verbal altercation or argument between two third parties that has nothing to do with them. “Alarmed” maybe but even that is stretching it and simply not what this law was intended for.

            The police officer verbally warning for POA was also OTT. The law was never intended to suppress arguing or remonstrating with jobsworths although that is how they try to use it.

            If this is an example of your legal expertise God help us.

    • 243
      Anonymous says:

      Truth or lies, Mitchell is still a Koont who thinks it’s OK to flush taxpayers money down third world drains. Good enough reason for him to be fucked off in my book.

      • 248
        Anonymous says:

        Mitchell might be a twat but the police need sorting out. The endless lies are pissing me off.

  68. 209
    BBC Report Watch says:

    Prescott and Macquarrie reports out tomorrow.

    Another one is definitely needed for Mitchell.

  69. 212
    Curious says:

    The question I have is why would the officers concerned do this? What was thier motivation?

  70. 214
    Warsi Minister of State says:



    “”””he admitted that he had lost his temper and sworn at the officers”””” NUFF SAID PLEB OR NO PLEB

  71. 217
    Warsi Minister of State says:

    It hasnt gone away….the wrong person was accused, thats all…watch and learn.

  72. 218
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Don’t forget the BBC now have the Pollard report (finally). Here is my prediction of what will be said.

    1. The BBC did nothing wrong.

    2. The BBC told the truth

    3. No one at the BBC put pressure on Newsnight to kill the story

    4. The BBC are brilliant

    5. The BBC deserve a big rise in the TV tax.

    6. Newsnight is brilliant.

    Oh and in a few months time don’t be surprised if Nick Pollard gets a nice consultancy job at the BBC. No one in the media EVER crosses the BBC if they expect to get work in the future.

    It will be a whitewash. Oh and the BBC won’t publish the evidence so you will have to take their word for it. As we know the BBC like the police are lying twats.

  73. 220
    Warsi Minister of State says:

    Turd meets Mr Turd the Third

  74. 221
    Plod says:

    LET US PRAY…..

  75. 222
    Warsi Minister of State says:

    Tu*rd meets Mr Tu*rd the Third

  76. 226
    Warsi Minister of State says:


  77. 234
    Warsi Minister of State says:


    I Thwant a thull pubwic inthquireere

  78. 236
    Warsi Minister of State says:

    You have to admit….he does sound like one. All that is missing is a mac.

  79. 237
    Warsi Minister of State says:

    Mongschell is an old fashion tory who we all hate. He is like Harry Enfields Tory Boy…..So please keep on harping on about the twat…The more you back him, the worse it will get for you. Thanks in advance.

  80. 238
    Warsi Minister of State says:

    Mon*gschell is an old fashion tory who we all hate. He is like Ha^rry Enfi*elds Tory Boy…..So please keep on harping on about the tw*at…The more you back him, the worse it will get for you. Thanks in advance.

  81. 257
    David Cameron says:

    Raising more money for the rich

  82. 258
    Slapper Watch says:
  83. 261
    Silly Old Man says:

    Sally will be hoping that the batteries are included.

  84. 267
    stormy-archer says:

    You tell them Andrew

  85. 268
    He just doesn't get it, does he? says:

    “David Cameron held a lengthy conversation with the former News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks at a party on Saturday night in Chipping Norton, Downing Street has confirmed.”

  86. 269
    Saffron says:

    The truth and the British Bullshitting Corporation do not belong in the same sentence.
    When is this parasite organisation going to be brought to heel,this bunch of leftie supporters at any cost with their total bias are a disgrace as to what used to be an impartial broadcaster respected throughout the world.
    Now we find they are taking the EUSSR shilling to further this outfits causes,what an utter disgrace.
    I see that the Bollocks report is out soon,don’t hold your breath folks as to what that will try to say,mitigation is in the air.
    We have already seen the blame being shuffled around in this organisation leading to resignations and obcene payoffs funded by us to Crapita the beeboids licence collectors on a bonus who have no legal powers and operate on fear.
    This crowd need to be shut down and made to stand on their own two feet and then we will see how they appeal to the masses.

    • 282
      The Biased Bullshit, Buggery, Child Crap and Playtime Corpse + Haribo Halfwit + Pollytwat et al, says:

      Envy and bad feelings will get you nowhere!

      Might we suggest you come along to one of our Regional Seminars where we can show you just how important we are to the National Life and Consciousness of the UK. In fact, we’ve put your name down for a Progressive Re-Education Course leading to a Certificate Of Attendance from Common Purpose.

      And on re-reading your post we find we have no option but to insist you attend! Pack a small suitcase and wait by just inside your front door – don’t attempt to leave by the back! Our boys will be round soon.

      Copied to:
      EUSSR Thought Police
      Local Authority (Electronic Media) Monitoring Teams.

    • 300
      All leftwing scum are parasitic subhumans says:

      There was a very interesting item on BBC One news tonight at 6PM. They mentioned that both BBC and ITV had paid compensation to Lord McAlpine “in relation to accusations conserving child abuse concerning an unnamed Tory peer“.

      Errr.. there was no “Tory peer”. This was part of the fabrication. But the BBC, even after paying compensation, still couldn’t resist the urge to try and stick the boot into the Conservatives. Lies and deceit are in the BBC’s DNA.

      The BBC should be abolished. The scum who work for it should be thrown on the dole and left to rot alongside the lefty subhuman filth from the Gruadian and Independent.

    • 301
      All leftwing scum are parasitic subhumans says:

      There was a very interesting item on BBC One news tonight at 6PM. They mentioned that both BBC and ITV had paid compensation to Lo*rd McAlp*ine “in relation to accusations conserving chi*ld ab*use concerning an unnamed Tory peer“.

      Errr.. there was no “Tory peer”. This was part of the fabrication. But the BBC, even after paying compensation, still couldn’t resist the urge to try and stick the boot into the Conservatives. Lies and deceit are in the BBC’s DNA.

      The BBC should be abolished. The lefty scum who work for it should be thrown on the dole and left to rot alongside the lefty subhuman filth from the Gruadian and Independent.

  87. 271
    Concerned Newsnight Viewer says:

    How come Emily is mateless? She looks OK to me.

  88. 272
    Operation Crossbow says:

    Newsnight once again peddling lie that the far right are taking over Europe. Paul Mason is obsessed with this subject, it’s not doing his mental state any good.

  89. 275
    P@ki Rock rock Fish says:

    Eat ur art out X factor

    • 299
      Fish 'n' Chips says:

      If this guy wants to carry on selling fish, let along GBP 1 fish, we need to start defending fish stocks properly in our fishing waters.

      The EuroMongs are continuing their insane practice of fish genocide: This must be stopped now.

      Someone please wake the government up to this important issue.

      • 312
        Fishwife says:

        The smell of fish is something Johnny Bercow must be used to. At least this is a rather good song and not a pong.

  90. 276
    Revd. (£rd Fucking Way) Phoney B£iar, sanctimonious git and £iar, emoting and wiv stupid grin says:

    Hi !!! and Hullo !!!!

    I see from the above that you’ve already picked my super message about much improved and Progressive UK is now since I imported millions of effnics and created a Plitically Krect state wiv thousands of Diversity Officers, Compliance Officers, Effnic Outreach Officers, translation services and lots and lots of work for the Human Rights Industry and Lawyers!!!!

    There’s so much more to tell you!!!!! and that’s just the tip of the iceberg!!! But I must fly, – wealthy fella wants to talk to me about an investment opportunity at midnight!!!

    My boy Dave is looking after the shop for a while – ‘til we get the UK well stuffed and in the €USSR oven!!! Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! geddit????

    OK Cherry babe – coming!!!

  91. 277
    I d on't nee d no doctor says:

    Paul Mckeever is the chairman of the Police Federation, remember the name.

  92. 278
    Operation Crossbow says:

    I see neo guido has got the mod bot control again

  93. 284
    Anonymous says:

    From one turd to another.

  94. 286
    Royal college HiJack says:

    The greater story here is how the police union and indeed the doctor’s union are trying to bring the government down.

  95. 287
    Neo Guido says:

    I smell Common Purpose’s hand in this whole Mitchell Affair.

    We have a quisling 5th column in our midst.

    • 295
      Guy Plot says:

      Perhaps it is time for the Quango’s to be collapsed, and Common Purpose to be rendered socially unacceptable / employable. Revocation of their charitable status in the UK could be a way forward here.

  96. 297
    I d on't nee d no doctor says:

    During the middle ages, talkative women were punished by being forced to wear metal cages on their heads.

  97. 303
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Didn’t even bother reading the 270+ comments

    MacAlpine – is a fucking turd himself along with his legal turds.

  98. 304
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Is Maclepine not a turd himself?

  99. 305
    Call a spade a spade says:

    Police Federation.
    Royal College of Nurses
    British Medical Association
    British Airline Pilots Association
    The Law Society

    ALL Trades Unions by any other name

    And as for ACPO they take the unionised biscuit.

  100. 308
    Blowing Whistles says:

    You Modding fuckers need to take ‘take a good look at the BIGGER PUBLIC PICTURE” OUT THERE – You are not going to stop the public wrath against the corruption – it is an unstoppable force and those who are seen to be ignorant and craven AND helping to attempt to oppress the public wrath will be hunted down ‘lawfully’ [I must add] as WELL. 2 FACED-Hunts

    • 310
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Do fucking excuse me but I used the C letter whereas the H letter seems to have replaced it.

  101. 309
    Pres. O'Bummer says:

    Sorry folks – you jus’ gotta stay in the EUSSR! – we need you there – so tough!

    We’ll fix a few things here and there to make sure you stay!

    That’s arl!!

    • 313
      Blowing Whistles says:

      Try legislating laws against the Hollyweirdo & Video manufacturers of indoctrinating ‘killing games / Movies’ before you have a go at the NRA or are yuo too beholden to their $?

      • 318
        NRA says:

        Properly funding mental health programs is really the place to start, and perhaps reduce the amount of psychotropic drugs unnecessarily prescribed – particularly to kids.

        Nothing wrong with violent movies / video games: Stats in Canada and Europe confirm that.

        • 334
          plip says:

          Mass killings in American schools predate video games of any kind by at least a decade.

          And Manson style random slaughter by two decades.

          • NRA says:

            First massacre at a school in US was 1927, Bath MI.
            Bomb was used, 45 killed 58 injured. Av. Age Victims: 11 yrs
            - Also the worst. No Guns involved.

            Worst school massacre so far seems to be: Beslan, North Ossetia 2004
            386 Dead, over 700 injured.
            (Pro-Chechen armed rebels took more than 1,200 school children and adults hostage – Russian security forces got involved in fire fight)
            - Not in the US, or involving US forces.

            Both cases, ‘killing games / movies’ not a factor.

            In the US, over 55% of firearms fatalities / year (c. 33k total) are suicides.

            There is something not right, but it is not the gun ownership.

        • 335
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Total BULL as regards violent vids & games

          Its up to all parents [without govnmet interference] to stop their kids from slowly becoming vegetables of the war games manufcturers – Burn the vids & ban the younger kids [who develope into monsters] from living a false life in isolation in their rooms – becoming day by day so introverted and sociallyinept.

          No Mr NRA – you have got the hollyweirdos and their long term indoctrination of young kids – badly WRONG.

          • NRA says:

            You are talking about a myriad of other social issues there.

            The ‘isolation’ aspect is the important part which goes deeper than just movies and games.

  102. 311
    The BBC are cunts says:
  103. 314
    Irradiate the brain says:

    Not convinced that a judge should force medical treatment on anyone.

    In fact I am fully convinced that a Judge should not have any say.

    • 330
      not a machine says:

      mmm I had been pondering that one , although more in depth story in early bits of story were based around alternative therapy , rather than risk to life . But your right in perhaps pondering where state should and should not go .

      • 346
        Anonymous says:

        State is obliged to prevent unbalanced mother causing death of child by preventing him from having the appropriate treatment for his life threatening condition.

    • 348
      The public says:

      It is the job of a judge to decide such things. Or would you prefer the doctors to just go ahead regardless without a fair hearing of the issues having taken place?

  104. 316
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Eniplacam is just another old t.urd attempting to conceal his miscreant past.

  105. 319
    BBC Watch says:

    Is Paul Mason on drugs ?

  106. 321
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Historical Tractor statistics from Stonehaven through Aberystwyth to Bournemouth have been long noted. There’s Something Ironic about Mary – Ha, Ha, Ha!!!

  107. 325
    US Watch says:

    Looks like the US Senate is hell bent on destroying the US middle classes.

    Boy did they make a mistake not choosing Mitt.

  108. 326
    Blowing Whistles says:

    It doesn’t take a fucking genius to work out who I am – I am however and have been a fucking pain in their rses – and they can’t do diddly squat about me – BECAUSE TO DO SO – is for them to reveal their dirty hidden hand???

    Candy / baby / take from / like / stupid / duplicitous / Wanchors

  109. 327
    Herman Van Rompuy says:

    Barry Obama. Liibertarian NOT!

  110. 328
    US Watch says:

    A bunch of private equity funds have started shedding and recommended shedding holdings in the corporations which manufacture weapons in the US. This could have interesting consequences.

  111. 329
    not a machine says:

    mmmm interesting news night on facebook and images and the search for making money , how very Blair mmmm so we now want the knowledge sharing economy to make money , iam sure it will stave off the millions under and un employed , or has it created that very poverty ?? the goblet of wonk awaits its first gulpers nearly said it though Jared , nearly said it eh ….

    It doesnt really look that good for tony when history looks at the long disaster zone he left behind .

    Anyhow things to do ect , have a good christmas etc and see how PM walks into brussels in jan , assuming that is the mayans werent that good at maths

    Really have a good christmas , the corporations have spoiled it a bit , but its still legal , to celebrate the birth/arrival of Christ the saviour , in this country, well the non gay marriage version anyway, for now . :)

  112. 345
    Doris Goldblatt says:

    You are cordially invited to Guido’s Christmas drinks, which will be held at 4:30pm tonight, Wednesday, at the Westminster Arms, 9 Storey’s Gate, SW1. Join fellow readers, co-conspirators, Westminster wonks, movers and shakers, and seasoned drunks as we toast the end of another year of plots, rumours and conspiracy.

    Thank you so much for the invite and I shall be there along with several Essex girls to bring relief to your guests.

  113. 350
    The public says:

    Well, it seems that Mr Mitchell has been treated to the kinds of unpleasantness and dirty tricks which many a defendant has been known to complain about and the Commissioner of the Met is standing by his officers. Quite why he would support people who are such unreliable witnesses of fact is beyond me. I still don’t understand why the officers concerned were so high and mighty not to want to open the gate in the first place, but to then start casually lying about the incident suggests they may not be the sort of people we need in the police.

  114. 368
    dick dastardardly mp says:

    The back story here is interesting.

    So who in the Cabinet Office authorized the release of the CCTV footage to Mitchell?

    Who then gave it to the media?

    Under what legal authority? Did he apply under the Data Protection Act or Freedom of Information Act or was it just a copy for a mate?

    Did the release fully comply with the Information Commissioner’s Code of Conduct?

    Who thought it was a good idea to put the full video of the Downing Street Security Measures out on the web when anyone who tried to film them might find themselves stopped searched and arrested under the Terrorism Act?

  115. 369
    Anonymous says:

    That thing on McAlpines desk looks like a coloured gentlemans walloper after a dip in a cold swimming pool.

  116. 370
    P Shop says:

    A previous pictorial take on this doing the rounds:

  117. 372
    Doctor D'eath says:

    I would recommend a diet and some surgery as usual.

  118. 373
    Doctor D'eath says:

    why is that there? is that normal ?

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Rod Liddle on the loony UN sexism special rapporteur:

“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”

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What’s he been doing FFS, mining bitcoins?

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