Best of Times, Worst of Times
As the tributes flood from Times staff to James Harding here is how he stood with the other editors:
Times circulation when Harding started 670,054, circulation when he finished 397,549. Digital said not to be breaking even.—
Media Guido (@MediaGuido) December 12, 2012
Times lost 40% of circulation during Harding editorship, same period FT lost 28%, Telegraph 36%, Guardian 43% respectively and Indy 60%.—
Media Guido (@MediaGuido) December 12, 2012
Word is that him and Rupert were barely on speaking terms.
yeah me neither. I haven’t called Rupert in years
You never call,you never write…..
Omerta is the order of the day
I’m an MP, I’m too busy thieving from the taxpayer to read any of this.
Report to Matron’s office immediately. I need some new tips on thieving.
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Does News Corp need a new Matron?
when syrian rebels appear to be pro al.qaeda
when syrian rebels appear to hack those they do not like …video on the net…
what are we doing sticking our nose into this?
there is talk of wmd too. chemical stuff.
why do we meddle?
I passed your question on to St Tone. His reply was to the effect that “we meddle in the middle and end up in a muddle”.
Hope that helps
Are they all dead then Guido?
Except for the Guardian, which can live on its ofshore capital gains for a few more years?
Will Lebedev continue to mop up the Indy’s losses?
And I suppose Bloomberg might run the FT as a loss leader…
The triumverate of Guardian/Independent/Telegraph are coining it will online advertising, I have heard. The Times? – you must be joking.
What adverts?
subliminal – it’s all that flashing bit. Yes, you didn’t imagine it.
oh I see, Firefox. I get it now… But you are the minority – at least I can find cheap insurance for my budgie…
Is anyone on speaking terms with Rupie?
It’s hard to talk with your mouth full.
fuck off 81lly / Kebab Time
Can The Times ever recover from Harding’s dumbed-down fashion-obsessed tabloid?
I beg your pardon?
Fashion is the most important thingy in the world
The plebs cannot live without it…
Quite true. I am always looking through 1930s copies of The Lady for fashion tips.
I would have thought WWF would be more appropriate for someone of your build.
Widdi’s Wonderful Fashions? A splendid and most avante-garde emporium. I get all my knickers from their tent department.
GQ get over it they don’t have tit & bum section like Dirty Des and Ru-pee’s other papers
“…[H]im and Rupert…”
Nice street-cred touch. (None of this Lah-dee-dah grammar, like: “he and Rupert,” as the pronoun is the subject of a subordinate clause.) Dumb it down for all us plebs out here. We hates them poncy toffs wot spe*aks correckly, don’tcha know, an’ we don’t wants ta sound like ‘em, evva.
Yes, it does grate doesn’t it, even when read rather than spoken. And in an article about the Thunderer too. I have bought it (the paper version) on occasion, but it has such a tawdry dumbed down format with its silly little pages. Bring back full format I say. We do need a centre right newspaper now that the Telegraph has moved to the dark side.
Ich bin ein Berliner
OK, so you’re a jelly doughnut, so what?
eine form for ladies, isn’t it? mmm, Lahndahn ladies, mmmm…
Give over guv, I’m hot and needing sarmm…
Keith Blackmoire is a sports hack
That should liven up the front pages of the Times
Footie players like us plastered all over the Icon of the British Press…
Will the new Editor bring big titties and camltoes onto the front page of the venerable Times?
It’s their only way out…
Didn’t Margaret Hodge say last week she’d be “taking action” against those who’ve made “scurrilous and defamatory” allegations about her?
Why the silence since then?
She is too busy chasing tax evaders is the simple answer
Mainly she will be going through a list of her closest relatives and members of her “Temple”
One way trip to Tel Aviv for the” holiday season”
Like a dog chasing her tail.
Or licking its bollocks
I once caught Cameron junior trying that trick. Cold showers for 6 months cured him.
“I once caught Cameron junior trying that trick.” Very self serving, but it does require pretty supple muscles and a flexible back.
NEVER HIT A MAN WHEN HE IS DOWN!
kick him
Its easier
Never hit on your way up the greasy pole because you might meet him on your way down. Just a thought.
What is this lover’s troff between the Torygraph and Downing Street Guido?
It sounds very serious…
Ooop
Should read “tiff”
I have troughing on the mind…
Professional deformation…
Hasn’t been the “Torygraph” for about 5 years. Now mostly a Labour shill that tries to get right-wingers voting UKIP to help Labour through the back door.
Don’t know, never read the rag anymore. Stopped reading it in the 90′s because it was so crap.
The Conservatives don’t exist , just like Labour , they were taken over by a mafia from Londonistan for a few Euro’s, time to go back to bad times before we get to good times innit.
Now mostly a Labour shill that tries to get right-wingers voting UKIP to help Labour through the back door.
That’s ‘The Daily Mail’ and the ‘Snail on Monday’. The Mail edited by Gordon’s walking and breakfasting companion, Daker.
Did someone mention Daker the darker? – I see that his DTP have published a very watered down article today in the name of Sandra Parsons pg 15 – who has written a very ‘cleansed’ piece about Jacintha’s Hospital Businees Employers…
We Musn’t plagerise on here!!! so here’s the link…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2246687/Jacintha-Saldanha-death-Does-Kate-Middletons-hospital-care-PR-nurses.html
However Sandra – your article was trumped “days ago” – by a far more “incisive piece” written on this site – even if I say so myself …
Don’t suppose she ever reads Guido Fawkes’ website …..
The DTP are – shown to be ‘way behind the times!’ [double pun intended]
I am Flattered by the Darker one and his paid hackettes cleansed piece. Do keep up.
BTW – There is a bigger message for many readers here – if they care to think about it.
I don’t need an army of festering greedy fee gathering lawyers – to advise me as to what I can and cannot say / write
i.e. The Daker press et all have “legions of duplicitous legals” – who ain’t quite tellin the truth.
The mail piece certainly does seem to praecae a lot of what has been written here – but then what was written here was extrapolating the expected narrative.
First mention in that mail article though of nurses culture: Have been waiting for that one to be played.
Interesting to see the reports today though indicating note had been left, nurse found hanged and had been dead a while as well. Shame those who discovered her cut her down. Understandable, but they should not have disturbed the scene before police arrived.
Given the timeline, if it was suicide, something fairly drastic must have happened to change her state in that short a time, the employers appear to be back in the frame.
Assuming suicide, direct pressure must have been applied to this woman and whoever did that did not understand what buttons they were pressing: Not the media. She is originally from Karnataka, and Southern India does have some of the highest suicide rates in the world.
So it shall continue to spin.
Post mortem results not to be released until inquest is complete.
Yes WW – and there will of course be no CCTV footage available – whatsoever …
I read the Times for about 20 years in the 80s & 90s. I always found it a massive learning resource. I gave up when it went tabloid.
After the hacking scandal I wouldn’t give it house room now.
I give it loo room…Just…
Yeah, I always found that the ideal place in which to do the crossword puzzle.
I think the Finking Fink should be Editor personally
By far the most intelligent of a poor lot…
And Dave should give him a lifelong peerage at thje same time
Can you imagine Lord Finking-Fink of Paywalls and Parts North?
Baron Finkelstein of Tel Aviv has a nice ring to it
Thankyou for noticing cheeky boy.
Fink is – caught out by his own past scribblings [published and in the Public Domain] and his ‘silence’ in respect of some of his particular ‘scribblings’ and his unwillingness to point proper daggers or shed proper light into the darker workings of the press [legals & CPS] and its cosiness with the pygmies of Parliament.
I mus re-read Gullivers Travels this week end.
I hope that the £10.8 MILLION that Rebakah Brooks received for resigning due to wrongdoing was fully taxed before she got her grubby maulers on it. I wouldn’t want to find out that it was paid the a service company or to a tax haven. This is an obscenity. Reward for failure that Cameron said wouldn’t be tolerated.
Will he comdemn it?
It will no doubt pass thru a suitably tax efficient island….
Rupie has armies of lawyers working for him
Including the former Director of Public Prosecutions FFS..Lord McDonald thingy…
I’m so incensed I spelt Rebekah and condemn wrong.
It is such a shame that a certain PR guy cannot spin a story to distract from R, as he did when she was up for domestic assault some time back.
Rebakar sounds like someone who wears a headscarf.
We want it to be known that we fully behind our Beccie…
She is a founding member and deserves all our sympathy
Love
Dave
Shouldn’t that be “Lots of Love”?
PS Charlie’s arsehole says “Hi”
It always struck me as to why they chose to live around Chipping Norton. By any standards and certainly by Cotswold standards, it’s a prettty drab and unremarkable place.
If he condemned it , he wouldn’t get a payday.
And will she give it all back if she’s convicted? Or was she really acting on Rupe’s orders?
Downing Street press relations have broken down since our Gabs went on maternity leave Guido
It is time to send dave on paternity leave again, I think…
I have a memory that there was an undertaking of editorial independence when Murdoch took over all those years ago. Never believed it and I probably imagined it anyway.
“Editorial independence” did you say…
Something for amateurs and the birdies, not us hard bitten pros…
Quite so and long may we continue to print utterly risable stories and sleb gossip.
Cooee, if any of you guys want advice on offshore tax avoidance schemes, give us a shout. We get out of paying millions every year.
If they’re losing money the tax haven isn’t much good to them
MARGARET DODGE THE QUIET WOMAN OF WESTMINSTER.
Times paywall is the biggest load of unimaginative load of nonsense since private Golf Clubs. Trying to bring some warped exclusivity to their chip paper concern – my fat backside! The other three must be laughing their bollox off.
He tried it with the News of the World – how did that go?
hopeless, no doubt.
The problem with Julia is that essentially she speaks with the same type of ‘forked-tongue’ as Rupee does. Both of them appear [more than evidentially] to be preaching diagonally and diametrically from opposite directions when in reality they both ‘only strive’ for there to be a ‘locking down’ of the public speaking out [The Public Interest] about the corruption visited upon the general public by both the left and right wings’ most corrupted ‘high profile’ miscreants [Ref Rowan Atkinsons - recent 10 min speech re: how the high profile people can get their problems resolved while the low profile get fcUKed] and a cross party complicity to protect themselves above the publics interest.
Such a tiny, tiny, tiny amount of vexatious immoral tax…
When will Order-Order go behind the pay wall?
“Let’s goo an’ wreck a reshtront, aye” says one of the fattest Jockanese slobs in the Commons.
“LEG IT – keep up Boris, you fat ol’ boy…”
Made me laugh to hear that Boris has tasted prison food, alegedly, and all that.
Boris has had all sorts in his mouth over the years.
Perhaps that’s why he was caught, he wanted to be caught, to try “prison food”, and drop his soap in the showers…
I wouldn’t invite this Front Bench into my local pub…
Would you?
Button mushroom.
Was Flashman’s face red?
Times went tits-up because Murdoch turned it into a Blairite New Labour apologist rag.
Fvcking awful decision, even if it chimed with the natural inclinations of most of the editorial staff at the paper, bloody terrible for the traditional readership.
Murdoch plays it whichever way the wind blows, you silly naive sod.
There was a time when Blair walked on water
Aye, there was also a time when most folk thought Bliar was honest too. Didn’t last long though.
Tell us about it
ask Euan Blair in Coventry – he knows the full story. And Blair was the good cop to that numbnuts George dubious Bush, so Blair saved the world, as like Brown did in 2008, you tory numbnut faggots.
You wind me up you public schooled tory drop soapers in showers, you lot do!
The traditional readership of the Times switched to Gwido’s blog
Better informed, free and at least it takes the p’ss out of all these pretentious PC asses…
And no fucking footie either….
Jimmy Savile abuse: Number of alleged victims reaches 450.
That’s one a day for approx 15 months. Must be more.
Savile will keep the Dead Tree Press alive for months…
Thanks Jimmy…
I did my bit.
some were asleep, or in a coma…
You have been watching a promo’ on behalf of Dave Nicey’s NewCon Party
…or for the new “Savile Appreciation Society”? Ey 1922 Committee/Bullingdon/Tory club?
Thunderer an appropriate name for a 2nd WW battleship thinking itself
invulnerable to missile technology. *BANG* gurgle, sink.
Indeed, I think it was hit by an Ecocet some years ago
You don’t mean ‘ocelot’ do you?
As a Frenchman you should have known this was an Exocet
Don’t you mean an ‘ocelot’?
The census shows muzees only constitute 4% of the population. And yet they keep getting everything they ask for and everything they want.
“I want a horse for Xmas and I know I will get it” tribe don’t know that they are born.
None of them have loads of tit & bum and the sports pages, mostly footie, does not cover a third of the papers.
“we are taking more money FOR the rich.”
Did Scameron really say that?
No doubt, several times, to his mates, in back rooms.
No, didn’t he say it in PMQs today?
oh yes he did – oh no he didn’t – oh yes he did, etc..
Yes you are right, he did say it this saffa, lunchtime – Dave Cee lost his rag again, and I like the way he bashes his clipfile on the dispatch box when he starts to get wound up, picked up by the mic next to him. He’s a tosser drama queen, isn’t he friend?
I have not bought a copy of the Times for ten years now .
I can honestly say it has done me no harm whatsoever.
We love our Editor.
Sod The Times, the times are a-changing
The whole damned country’s rearranging
The Times of London’s way out of time
The census made it a pantomime
OH NO WE DIDN’T!
We just count ‘em. Blame whoever lets ‘em through in the first place.
It is a fact that the Conservative led coalition has raised VAT.
A most regressive tax,and another reason not to vote Tory at the next General Election
Like you will be any better Ed? Pull the other one, how much is that Climate Change claptrap bill going to cost everyone, including the very poorest in society? Tosser.
Ed will never be PM, supplementary polling questions show the Tories will win easily in 2015. Foot had a mid-term poll lead twice that of Miliband’s, and so did Kinnock.
So many coloureds in London now they are reversing the stripes on Zebra crossings.
he-he-he nice one. And the Met will now be dressed in white…
…and dominoes in pubs will be white with black spots.. No, hold on, that goes on already…
Quote of the century for Ed Miliband.
Ed Miliband on the Tories – “They hit people they never meet and whose lives they will never understand”
Brilliant,and he will carry on wiping the floor with “Fatty” Dave at PMQ’s.
Miliband comes off worse more often than not.
So Ed’s really one of us then?
No, he’s one of them
Police have set up ‘Operation Fairbank’ to investigate Labour MP Tom Watson’s allegations of a p*edophile ring in high places
Hope they send the fat fucker the bill, when then result – not proven – comes in.
Inspector Bunter of the Lard
Tom Scumson will be trying to pull some favours from Labour’s copper placemen to get any result at all ..allegedly.
am suprised they aren’t seriously looking at dropping the pay wall ..that alone would remedy their drop a good deal
Times Online is a confirmed loss leader for Murdoch, in last place.
obviously but surely droping the wall would see advertising swell profits whilst the brand broadens it’s readership. It seems to work for the washington post
Yes, but Murdoch has been working hard to lick up to the establishment since his, AHEM!, little difficulties in the UK of GB & NI.
I wonder how many coppers in the Strathclyde region – Murdoch’s footsoldiers have bribed over the years? Plenty by all accounts out here in the real world.
Funny how these journo types feel qualified to tell everyone else how to do their jobs, doncha know?
excuse us
keep scribbling. Whatt is your true monika by the way, tell us – you must be a good read, non-shades of grey maybe… : )
Circulation halved mainly because Caitlin fucking Moran was on every other page.
Caitlin Moran??? who the fuck is she when she is at home? Behined a paywall? Oh, that explains it.
Brilliant Caitlin here, a better and more interesting, and accessible, form,
What do you say Dylan about these Times sorts? (Dylan hundredth birth next October, by the way – feel free to infestate Swansea and Laugharme next year, cuture London vultures,your welcome),
Got rid of my Times one-click Pane when they went to ‘Subscription Options.’
Soon forgot about them.
History of the Future?……. certainly History
…and now as the Telegraph have introduced monthly subscriptions to view more than 20 uselessly written articles, then wait for the next series of circulation figures!!! They’re going to bomb – big time!
Telegraph dipping their toe in the drought – interesting, didn’t know that. Thanks.
iPad, iPod, I conquered.
Now I know why commentators here change their name so regularly.
blame norton symantec trawl – I will have to change their settings sometime – can’t remember what name I posted last at times. Think every hour is a bit over the top for a trawl, I think norton…