December 7th, 2012

Leveson Demands Laws to ‘Civilise’ the Internet
Brian Speaks Down Under

levFresh off the plane to Sydney, jet-setting Lord Justice Leveson has wasted no time in having a pop at the internet on tour down under. His withering and rather unfortunately timed moan ended up almost as a Leveson Report 2.0:

“I am watching developments in the UK with interest. I treat the report as a judgment and judges simply do not enter into discussion about judgments they have given. They do not respond to comment, however misconceived, neither do they seek to correct error. The established media broadly conforms to the law and, when they do not, they are potentially liable under the law. In so far as the internet is concerned, there has been, and for many, there remains a perception that actions do not have legal consequences. There is not only a danger of trial by Twitter, but also of an unending punishment, and no prospect of rehabilitation, by Google. Just as it took time for the wilder excesses of the early penny press to be civilised, it will take time to civilise the internet. The internet does not trade in gossip. It simply publishes it online, conveys it on Facebook, uploads it onto Youtube, tweets and re-tweets it. It is likely that new legal norms and new laws will need to be developed.”

Now who was it that broke the Max Clifford story?


101 Comments

  1. 1
    Yvonne from The Colliers Arms Clydach says:

    I never believe anything I read on the internet .

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    • 6
      Red Egg Millitit..... says:

      Judges and power = arrogance.

      Brian is certainly arrogant!

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      • 9
        Mongspotter says:

        And the internet isn’t yours to legislate over, Levemong, it belongs to us who use it.

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        • 21
          Can UK afford this? says:

          The birth parents of the children at the centre of the UKIP fostering row can today be revealed as a Slovakian couple who have had six of their offspring taken away by social workers.

          Last night the father accused council staff of ‘racism’ and of destroying his family as he told how 20 police officers ‘raided’ their home to remove their last four children.

          The authorities have also taken the couple’s grandchild (the baby son of their 17-year-old married daughter), bringing the total number now being looked after by the state from this one family to seven. Their ages range from five months to 11 years.

          Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244297/UKIP-fostering-scandal-Its-social-workers-racist-say-Slovak-parents.html#ixzz2EM5nUE4D
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          • Clare Deloon says:

            What? Immigrants supporting the anti-immigrant party? Clearly they have not been paying attention to the UK taxpayer funded English lessons.

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          • Clare Deloon says:

            Oops! Sorry, wrong parents. Apologies.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Hope fostering is not run as a business and people are doing it out of the kindness of their heart.

            Anyone knows how much fostering pays per child? I thing it people want to foster they should not be paid anything more than child benefits.

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          • One-term Dave, dragging the Tories to their grave, says:

            Can the UK afford this? Why of course! That’s why I’m going to allow a minimum of 420,000 Rumanian and Hungarian immigrants (plus lots of hard-lazing Roma) into Britain as of January 2014! Spiffing, what what?!

            Toodle pip!

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          • its bleak in sunderland says:

            Not long before we have the Romanians Bulgarians,Albanians and Turks at least those who live in that lovely part of Chelsea called The Boltons can consider renaming to the Balkans we are not being Vulcanised rather Balkanised.

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          • Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

            Hungarians have had the right to move here ever since they joined the EU. As for Turkey, by the time they join I shall be pushing up daisies.

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    • 16
      make your own mind up says:

      Judge this

      http://www.ratemypoo.com/

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    • 17
      a non says:

      Then what reason should I believe this statement too?
      Maybe ‘all’ instead of ‘anything’ would be more correct?

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    • 97
      Popeye says:

      More….he is an arrogant shit that obviously believes he’s above the law.

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  2. 2
    Quick says:

    How much did this clown get paid ??

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  3. 3
    Evan Alaff says:

    Given the spate of questionable decisions by judges lately should we call for independent regulation of the judiciary underpinned by statute? Who should be the judge though? Sorry, I didn’t think that through.

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    • 82
      Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

      Look at the penalties for outraging public opinion:-

      Burning poppies – 50 quid fine.
      Making a stupid remark on Twitter whilst pissed – 56 days in jail.

      The law is an ass!

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      • 86
        Anonymous says:

        “Stupid remarks on twitter” can be re tweeted thousands of times, the potential for damage (see sallys input) is obviously massive. Reputations can be ruined very quickly, im surprised it needs spelling out.

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        • 89
          NE Frontiersman says:

          ‘Reputations can be ruined very quickly..’

          And yet Lord McAlpine, so far as we know, took no measures to protect his reputation for twelve years after allegations much fouler than those that have been discussed in the MSM appeared online. Was this simply the inability to identify a party to sue, or a calculation that nobody believes ravings on the the Internet, ergo that no reputational damage has occurred until the MSM repeat it? Gossip, much of it malicious, has circulated for millennia, and people of maturity have known to ignore it, unless and until it comes with some backing. Has much really changed, except the growing capacity and ambition of the rulers to police the gossip?

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          • Legal Eagle says:

            The original allegations were in print media – before the internet had taken off. (Well – it was sort of running via bulletin boards in the US at the time)

            The publication was shut down – mainly as a result of libel action by Major over allegations of an affair. The accuracy of the reporting should not be judged though upon that.

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  4. 4
    Kebab Time's F5 key says:

    Dad’s been nicer to me recently…

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  5. 5
    Pigs can fly!! says:

    So now we know. Judges have equated themselves with the Pope – infallible. Pompous barstoools. Whoda thunk it?

    In other news

    1. Page 1 – Pregnant woman leaves hospital carrying yellow flowers
    2. Page 27 – Next World Islamic Economic Forum to be held in

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    LONDON!!!!

    Seems like none of the 53 Islamic countries wanted these financial fraudsters in case they upset the sky fairies with their chicanery.

    However, it is reliably reported in the Beano that the next Church of England Synod will be held in Jedda, from where the next Papal encyclical is also due to be announced.

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    • 10
      Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

      When you say Jeddah I assume you mean Luton?

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      • 24
        Pigs can fly!! says:

        You may well be right. It will be easier to bung in the aid demands, er, requests when they are right on the doorstep. I suppose the British taxpayers will be funding it all and not the ultra rich Arabs who have money to burn. Still George can always borrow another few billions to cover the costs as it was certainly not budgeted for in yesterday’s statement. Bloody cheeky buggers.

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        • 63
          Bollocks to Getting a Pseudonym says:

          No, the English taxpayers will be funding it.

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          • sacre bleu says:

            In that case they should be made to travel cattle class and stay in B&Bs in Tower Hamlets (or whatever the equivalent in Luton is).

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  6. 7
    Diane Fatbutt fancier says:

    My comments have started to go into a black hole.

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  7. 8
    Juan Coeur says:

    “I treat the report as a judgment and judges simply do not enter into discussion about judgments they have given. ”
    Pompous twat

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    • 11
      Pigs can fly!! says:

      I’ve already used that adjective, so can you please endeavour to find your own in future? Much obliged.

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    • 41
      Ellie-Mae (8) says:

      And then he proceeded to do just that…..well OK for money, that makes him at best a mercenary and at worst a chicken-shit hypocrite.

      Now where’s that nice Mr Handycock gone?

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    • 70
      Anonymous says:

      What he really means by that statement Juan is that we are stuck with the decisions of judges because they can/will not be called to account.Arrogant.
      Ah for the days of Lord Justice Denning.

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  8. 11
    Kitler says:

    Civilize the internet you mean hide all the evil doing of the rich and powerful, the kiddy molesting the corruption the expenses fiddling and the murders, the getting into wars illegally?
    Of course none of that happens ever.

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  9. 18
    Loopy Lou LLB (Hons) says:

    You do not need any silly and expensive legislation which the country cannot afford .

    All you have to do is take a pinch of salt whenever you read anything and if you want to believe it verify it from at least two separate sources .

    Anyone with a legal training will understand what I am saying .

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  10. 19
    Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

    A lawyer wants new laws (and therefore more lucrative work)

    Who would have thought it?

    Next you will be telling me celebrities like to screw underage kids…..

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    • 32
      Cherie Blair says:

      Dear Brian leveson,

      Would be tops if you can come up with some new human rights legislation and send the claimees my firm’s way. Thanks awfully.

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    • 49
      Annie Seed-Balls says:

      The only new law I would like to see is the prohibition of anyone connected with the legal fraternity in all and any capacity to be barred from being able to be elected to Parliament (or any other public body).

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      • 95
        Blowing Whistles says:

        + 1000′s – Now yer talkin my language.

        Any legislation or underpinning should be kept completely outside of political / legal judicial interference as in strictly independent of politicians and with an overriding emphasis on “The Public Interest”. And not the Public Interest that legals, politicians, coppers and the dead tree press hacks ‘n moguls claim to be acting under.

        All to often the CPS drop cases stating ‘it was not in the public interest’ … what they fail to state is ‘well it was not in the public interest that they the public should find out how truly corrupted the 4 pillars of the state actually are’.

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  11. 22

    One global internet governance – coming soon, to a prison planet near you.

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  12. 23
    City of Vice says:

    Lord Levenstein or whatever he’s called can kiss my arse. The main issue was and is the corruption in public life which his expensive media wankfest conveniently sidestepped. Paying off public officials for access or information has ALWAYS been illegal under existing law though you would never have thought so listening to that clown’s enquiry.

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  13. 24
    Centre Parting says:

    £600 for a dinner to listen to him.
    I hope he donates his fee to ‘charity’ or helps Gideon out with our borrowings.
    It is immoral for him to now profit from his obsolete report.

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  14. 27
    Tom Watson's Brighton fun says:

    Now the Internet too will be clamped fully between the jaws of the Common Purpose crocodile (e.g in other words the secret Crypto Marxist/Communist Purpose will rule all) .

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    • 42
      Annie Seed-Balls says:

      I read elsewhere today that Pippa’s aunty was a senior executive on Marxism Today magazine for quite some time. So now we all know exactly where she is coming from. I do wonder, however, whether any others in that family were also infected with this virus – and, if so, what the implications are for our future head of state.

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  15. 30
    Damned Impertinent Questions says:

    Onward Comrades. On to ze 1000 Jahre Reich of communications regulation. We need to cover al;l ze bases (apart from the People’s Daily which already has a good regulator we might emulate)

    Who are these little people who think they have a right to challenge or speak out about their betters

    Today Wapping…tomorrow ze world

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    • 54
      Our day will come... says:

      ….and the day after a spot of Arab springing for you all. Listen to Cairo radio pal.

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  16. 33
    Bruce says:

    It is on days like this that the phrase ” whinging Pom ” gains a certain resonance .

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    • 57
      Abe Erijinawl says:

      It’s your fault for inviting him. You makes your bed etc …

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    • 67
      Bollocks to Getting a Pseudonym says:

      I’d be reluctant to call Leveson English, as he probably hates our guts (but not enough to prevent him from taking an over-generous salary and pension funded by English people). I suspect that Leveson, like most of the ruling classes, would describe himself as anything but English.

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  17. 34
    Mrs May says:

    In order to avoid all the waste of police time on Operation Yewtree, would the celebrity who did not engage in sexual abuse in the 1970′s and 80′s please put their hand up.

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  18. 36
    simon says:

    I’m utterly transfixed by Brian’s thoughts. Really. when’s his auto-biog out? Wonder if it will be called ‘The Life of Brian’. God help us if the ‘bore of the year’ heads up another bloody ‘inquiry’ (ie:why is Ed Balls a twat?, Has Harriet Harman ever had the menopause…).

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    • 60
      Tiptoe thru the chewlips says:

      So, you are either a lawyer or employed by the BBC (or both) and I claim my box of jelly babies.

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  19. 38
    8illy 8owden, the world's greatist umplre says:

    Brian said it: “The established media broadly conforms to the law and, when they do not, they are potentially liable under the law.”.

    So why the need for the Leveson Enquiry?

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  20. 40
    Now this is what he said that is the fuckin problem says:

    ‘neither do they seek to correct error’

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  21. 48
    Gok Wan says:

    The angle of the hat is simply not jaunty enough

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  22. 53
    Anonymous says:

    The liblabcons are gonna get you, Greedo.

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  23. 56
    The Boy Plunger says:

    Perhaps Mr Fawkes should put a warning at the top of his blog that you may read the postings here free of charge but the comments are in no way verified and should not be relied upon by the reader .

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  24. 65
    its bleak in sunderland says:

    Methinks all this exposure is too much judges should be heard but not seen

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  25. 73
    Judge Dredd says:

    I thought this so called judge pronounced that last week’s speech would be his last and only such comment on the report. I guess he got hooked on the media attention and expenses paid lifestyle… time for a world tour!

    What’s next? A BBC fly on the wall docu-drama: “Leveson: Life after Judgement Day”

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    • 80
      Tonto says:

      Judge fork tongue speak .

      Down Australia under paddle without Mr Jay .

      Celebrity out me get of here .

      Geoffrey Boycott 204 out not .

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  26. 74
    its bleak in sunderland says:

    To annoy Brian just utter two words Ken Dodd how tickled he will be.

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  27. 84
    reports from the rear says:

    to precis: judges are not accountable – to anyone – that’s fine by me

    ta ra and thanks for the cheque

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  28. 87
    White hat geek says:

    Whilst Leveson does not have the power – the ITU and UN seem to think they do. They have been meeting in Dubai (WCIT conference) – really the decision will be up to the US though, they are resisting this strongly at the moment.

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  29. 98
    keredybretsa says:

    Tell me, is it legal, Norm?

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  30. 99
    horsehead nebulizer says:

    Levesonathon..And on…And on…
    Media false-flag pantomine trojan horse craftily sneaking in future internet crackdown scenario.

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  31. 100
    Can't pull the wool over my eyes, butty says:

    Next they will be zipping our mouths, and wil have to get permission to unzip it to say anything soon.

    Lord, if it is not directly a money making mouth off, as the press, then we are allowed to say anything you numbnuts – even call JC a kike if we want.

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