MILT: Mums I’d Like To Tax
It’s taken some time but it seems the Labour kickback machine is getting into gear. The dividing lines are being drawn over the whether or not Labour back the Welfare Uprating Bill that will apparently be published this side of Christmas. In the meantime a nice row is brewing over the so called “Mummy Tax”. After granny and pasties, hidden hits are de rigueur these days. A friend of Ed Balls tells Guido this morning:
“Osborne effectively branding mums, taking time out from work to be with their new baby, as work-shy benefit scroungers is a big political mistake.”
Guido is not sure how a reduction in hand-outs is a “tax”, but the issue is certainly potent. Mumsnet will be unbearable today…
Can I have a fizzy orange for xmas mummy?
If Labour has any sense it should do the following things when next budget comes to committee stage.
1) Include mansion tax in some form.
2) Increase bank balance-sheet tax to 1%
3) Increase tax / fee non-dom pays to £200,000
4) Stop high rate tax paying pensioners getting winter fuel allowance.
Then we all will be able to see how LD votes. If LD votes for these, these has to be implemented and if Osborne fails to change his budget we will have a general election.
Do the opposition party set the budget?
Gideon looks lovely and very gay in that picture. Like an effete John Inman.
Fuck off – I saw him first
They can amend on committee stage and vote on it.
When mummies get on their high horses, then we will really have trouble – oh yes! But of course, Georgie Porgy puddin’ and pie had a nanny though,
Now lads – it’s that time of year when we’re looking for funds to top up the LieBore coffers! And once again I’ve got that special treat for you and your friends! –worn once only and never washed! – special premium prices for those worn when sitting beside Ed at PMQs – so you get all the excitement!
And for all of those of you who are deep into nostalgia we still have some Premium Priced ones from when I sat beside Gordo!!
PS – all hermetically sealed!
But are they red and ethical?
Be careful where you spread your milt.
Why do people have kids and expect others to pay for them ?
Even as a socialist I cannot disagree with that.
State benefits encouraging more children should end, we can’t afford it and we don’t need more people. The truth is that for many families with more than 2 kids they could never get a job that would pay them enough. We have created total state dependency for many. Both parties have been responsible for this and neither can face up to the task needed to alter it. Get a real Conservative Party in power and you might have a chance.
Issue is this. Top rate tax payers are the net tax contributors; government want them to pay benefits for other peoples kids but not to their kids.
Exactly you have a system that is no longer viable both economically or politically. The notion that benefits are a help to enable economic advancement later has failed. It simply becomes an ongoing subsidy to failure so the sector of society footing the bill are no longer able to see what they get in either their access to a similar benefit or the longer term social benefit of wider wealth creation. It’s simply moving cash from one part of your society that is making profit to one that is not and won’t be able to. But neither party will address the core issue, better to tinker here and there and come up with more ‘tax credits’, ‘family credits’ etc..
Case in point company I’ve done some work with this year employed 4 EU Eastern European women. All 4 now moved their kids over here and are now having another child each. All 4 will go on maternity leave and maternity benefit plus the other benefits for famliies. None of them earn more the national average wage and all 4 are single parents. Yet their actions where seen as affordable because of the state benefits.
The company has learnt its lesson, just contract staff in future.
Problem with the case in point: Why employ eastern EU women when there is plenty of spare capital available domestically ?
Lesson for company – in future recruit locally, not from eastern EU countries.
I agree and hence we need to leave the EU and end the totally crazy policy of encouraging companies to hire ‘cheap’ EU migrants.
Exactly. While Boles, Pickles, Government and fat cat developers destroy the communities of middle England’s by transforming them into high density hell holes with no green space. Most Conservative politicians apparently don’t want a second term.
Oi! – you fuckas wanna stop our bennys dontcha!! bastards!!!
I’m sure you must be tired after your long journey to the benefits office.
If you’d like to step in this shower comrade you’ll feel a lot better afterwards.
It’s called the nanny state, and it is deeply embedded in the nations psyche, thanks to our socialist friendly state broadcaster.
of course we need more people. we have a significantly ageing population, people are living much longer with increased health needs. either we kill off pensioners – or we encourage people to have children to pay for the pensions and healthcare systems of the elderly.
“Entitled” parents beget “Entitled” offspring.
Bribing the feckless to breed instills a sense of entitlement and an expectation of someone else to “pick up the tab”.
Encouraging people to breed only works if those offspring generate wealth to provide for the elderly.
A dramatic change is required to erase the perceived need to financially and socially support those that are not a prepared to work and those that can no longer work.
People die. Most people are scared of death, and that is used to instill fear in people. That fear has been used as a means to coerce and control the population. E.g., You have to pay your taxes or your kids and granny will die.
A lot of people allow their fears to be played with in order to get them to do something “Our Glorious Leaders” want them to do.
Wake up humankind. 99% of you are being used to enrich and to maintain the rent seeking gobshites.
No darlings – just import more foreign labba
Ooh – you are awful.
But I like you.
Confused of Barking said: “Either we kill off pensioners”
The NHS is already doing that – by drugging, dehydrating and starving sick pensioners (and babies, children and 22 year olds upwards) who were not imminently dying – to death on the Liverpool Death Pathway.
Kill off productive Middle England and our families on the Liverpool Death Pathway, to cut NHS costs. Hand the savings to the professional benefits claimant class. How reasoned and rational.
……or should that be, how sick?
No idea. It used to be a life choice, now they seem to be designed not to get in the way of anything. Child minders, benefits, hidden in rooms with electronic violence training, no parent accountability, behaviour training in schools instead of learning. These are not children, they are a by-products of a lifestyle. Their product usefulness ends at 16 as we import others in their stead.
So you think its ok for them to pay for your and unemployed peoples health care, dole, housing, pension, etc but the people who pay tax shouldn’t get any benefits.
the biggest single element in the Welfare Bill is Pensions. The simplest way of tackling the Welfare Bill is to slash pensions but then all the home county conservatives will be choking on their morning earl grey and suddenly go off the idea of Welfare Reform.
much easier to attack the most vulnerable in society. wankers.
Morons vote for morons.
Sooner or later Labour & Tories will have to stop spending taxpayers money to buy voters.
Vote UKIP.
UKIP = One Trick Pony
Thankfully, Nigel Farage was not badly hurt in that aircraft crash but if he had been unlucky, he and Ukip would be no more.
Lazy Gog, really lazy. Try reading about UKIP policies – available online.
Not at all. Be realistic. They will win a handful of seats at the next general election. No more. Joe Public hasn’t got the time to peruse their detailed policies, and will vote for them only as a route out of the EU.
Joe Public doesn’t even have that much of an appetite for a GB exit.
UKIP is a refuge for disillusioned right-wingers and daydreamers. They will split the Tory vote and make it easier for Labour to gain an overall majority without the ‘help’ of the Liberal Dumocrats.
Oh and just another thought. As from yesterday Ed Balls ceased to be a contender for Chancellor. As such a bogeyman will be removed.
Not my fault, I had a row with Yvette. She looked like shit yesterday as well.
Can’t remember what the argument was about now as the effects of the mescaline and PCP have worn off.
I didn’t look like shit, I was looking at a shit, and you can sleep on the sofa for the rest of parliament
In the last six by-elections, 15,074 votes were cast for Ukip in total, out of that total electorate of 461,251. That actually gives an average poll of a tiny 3.3 percent of the electorate prepared to turn out to vote for this minority party.
Indeed but the trick is to win the Tory Party for Conservatives.
One prick pony
I want my mummy!
She’s at the Starbucks on Tooting Common.
“Osborne effectively branding mums, taking time out from work to be with their new baby, as work-shy benefit scroungers is a big political mistake.”
If that is so why did Cameron have a lot of time off when when his wife had their last child, he did not even give birth to the child, if Gideon actually believes the above what is his response to Dave the leader of the country takes time off shortly after taking office
Fuck Mumsnet
Well all right then.
You have to really roll your trousers up to do that Bojo. Need any help?
You should tell all those poncing about on Mumsnet to get off their fat arses and get the kid’s lunch on.
What is this woman on about?
She must be talking about an Islamic country.
If they were all like her, the subjects she mentions would be rife all over the world among the male populations.
Some Washington State Uni Study on the Aka and Ngandu people of central Africa by Barry and Bonnie Hewlett in the journal African Study Monographs. Bizarre – some more context around this tweet would be needed unless this was an anthropological discussion going on to figure out what she was on about.
Agree, I have seen Kebab post more informative stuff than this.
Ashcroft!
Madness!
1% increase in Benefits instead of 2 or 3%? Tax threshold raised. Not exactly Greece
Do benefit scroungers actually fall into any of the tax bands?
Precisely why I want to legalise gay marriage, as two gayers making ‘the devil with two backs’ cannot reproduce.
SIMPLES !!
But Darrhhhling! – there are so many other positions! – especially when we have more than two!
My special adviser(s) and I are always happy to make up the numbers.
What a gay day.
You bin reedin my book mate?
well it doesn’t stop me trying in public toilets.
helooo *grins* …call me, er, Charles… cos, I’m a pretty straight kinda guy. Well, obviously not now
Mumsnet is unbearable every day.
Mumsnet has transformed “Ladies wot dine” into “Ladies wot w(h)ine.”
The only way to deal with these benefits is to freeze them indefinitely so that ultimately they cease to matter. Any positive measures to abolish or reduce them have the guardianistas claiming slaughter of the first born.
Let the sick lame and lazy brigade scream all they want. Stop spending all your handouts on ciggies and booze.
Saving money won’t rescue the economy.
But reducing average longevity may.
I assume you are commenting from your place of work,or are you the boss,or retired or just another tosser?
Mumsnet is ALWAYS unbearable!
What a brave man, the thought of Kate sorting him with her Hockey Stick should make him reconsider.
I’m so proud to be leading the Nasty Party to a General Election defeat in 2015.
BAD NEWS BURIED – Mass closures at Remploy http://labli.st/VHDnwP
Branson is going to run that railway for another 23 months .
Just what the fuck is Cameron and his bunch of wankers playing at?
If anyone on any of these sanctimonious Select Committees had any guts they would summons that Justine Greening sort .
She will tell them just what is what in that Department .
When CMD said “We’re all in it together” he wasn’t referring to us proles getting a chance at the trough.
Nor I suspect was he referring to a first class carriage on the train to Manchester (or wherever that line goes to).
If they make a big enough cock up, we may be able to get by until 2099 without the HS2 nonsense too.
http://fxbites.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/shadow-of-his-former-self.html
If it’s a ginger then constitutional questions of paternity and randy brothers-in-law will need to be asked.
In my extensive library,(4 books),i found a copy of ,Pears Cyclopaedia,sixty first edition,1952/3.
In it i came across the Citizens Guide section.It quotes three acts.
The National Insurance(Industrial Injuries)Act,1946
The National Insurance Act,1946
The National Health Service Act,1946. It goes on to say;
These three Acts,together,with the two Acts of 1948,relating to the care of children and to national assistance for those in acute need,make a new charter of social security,and Britain may claim that her system of social security for the individual is not surpassed in the world.” How it has been abused by feckless people,allowed by government,is sad…………..
Wanking?
reply to #47
Mumsnet is the 13th circle of social-media hell.
Sounds discriminatory to me.
Yes it is. You are only allowed to join if you wear ethical knickers.
RAPIST
Repressed
And
Poverty-stricken
Individual
Supports
Tarts
Get your clothes on and get me a cup of tea will ya.
My first job involved working in an office with 40 women and 4 men .
All the women ever wanted to do was marry a millionaire and get out of the fucking job.
I think Osbourne is making a very valid point and should continue with this line of thinking .
40 women and 4 men?
Where do I apply?
Mumsnet
To quote – A friend of Ed Balls tells Gu1do this morning:
Friend?
Oh gawd! Osborne is in serious trouble now – just wait for the logjam of prams at the gates of Downing Street! Would make that Eiritean protest look like a a tea gathering with the Vicar.
Song for the fine mummies of our nation, with their purses get emptier, for sweeties and penny bubblegums, feed the ice cream van men/ladies, and of course for shoes to put on their kiddies feet,
..and of course now, them coming…
Hope Ozzie Hopeless is ready for it!
By the way Guido, good spotting.
Even The Guardian is stuttering in publishing the brit and NI mummies side of things, to enfuriate them more. They must be throwing their bottle of coping gin at the round the clock news telly as we speak.
And yes, I know deep down thoughts – I know all mummies, almost, fancy being one of those m – i – l – f – s. I think I know human nature, and it’s dark corners…
I agree with George .
Women who have children are invariably lazy .
They use the birth of a child as an excuse to brass off their employers (and co workers), give up work pay less tax and then for good measure moan if they do not receive piles and piles of Child Benefit .
George should simply tell them that they get 40 quid for bringing up one or more sprigs and that is there lot .
oh jeezuz – don’t wind them up more for feck sakes, because you know who will be having first stop for a earache? Yes, us fecking poor hubbies. and to think we have enough to put up with with pst psm post whatever, whatever it is called, and having to cook our own brekfast and tea for a couple of months while they are saying hello to the bottom of a toilet bowl. And sex? chchch, that went out the window months ago.
It is “making the beast with two backs”, not “the devil with two backs”. (Othello)
As for any “friend” of Balls — if he has one — the friend should tell him that the sole reason for current tax increases and reductions in state handouts is in order to deal with the appalling levels of deficit and debt bequeathed by the last Labour government, of which he (Balls) was not the least incompetent member.
Mummy, why has daddy hung himself?
But, like, I thought, it was the little scrubbers who breed to get a flat. He was after. They never pay tax, always wanna ‘job’, like, never get one, well ‘job’ know what I mean innit.