November 28th, 2012

LibDems on the Fence: Murdo-phobia v Press Freedom

It could not be a great matter of state without the LibDems sitting on the fence. Yesterday they briefed the FT:

“In spite of the party’s liberal heritage, Mr Clegg’s team say the vast majority of Lib Dem MPs would support Leveson if he says that independent regulation must be underpinned by law to make it fully effective.”

However this morning team Clegg is in full reverse ferret mode:

Overnight it emerged that the Burns/Blunkett letter had cross party support, also Ming and Hughes have been making plenty of noise on the issue. Interestingly the party’s leader in waiting, who is not a man adverse to regulating, has been rather quiet. The last time Vince Cable said anything interesting about press regulation was when he had been at the sharp end of a sting. After his complaint about the secret ‘war on Murdoch’ recording by Heidi Blake, then of the Telegraph, was upheld by the PCC, Vince said:

“I’m delighted with the findings which fully vindicates the complaints I and my colleagues made to the PCC. It’s very rare the commission comes down so clearly and we are very pleased with the outcome. It was important this was established by an independent, respected and reputable body.”

Will Cable and the rest of the LibDems be voting to keep regulation “independent” or will their Murdoch phobia overcome their liberal anti-statist, pro-freedom traditions?


225 Comments

  1. 1
    I don't nee d no doctor says:

    And Chilcot?

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    • 13
      Terry Towelling says:

      So the Liberals are only liberal when in opposition. Who would have thunk it?

      But what about Dave increasing the price of booze for everyone to try and stop drunks in the street on a friday night? Given that the plod have all the powers required to stop drunks trashing towns on a Friday night anyway.

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      • 21
        Anonymous says:

        It’s global warming innit?

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      • 22
        Steve Miliband says:

        Make them pay for treatment at A and E

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        • 39
          T. P. Fuller says:

          In Marxist Britain? RU avinalarf?

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        • 42
          Anonymous says:

          We can but dream. It’ll probably mean plenty of court orders to pay 2p a week off benefits.

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          • An economic unit says:

            My partner has epilepsy, spina bifida, left haemoplegia following a brain hemorrage. has recently undergone a brain scan as the doctors believe she may have suffered another bleed. On top of all of this she is now under investigation for possible cancer.

            Despite having a letter from her GP which emphatically states she should be in the support group, not the work related group as she is Clearly unfit to work.

            Heres a note we just received from our illustrious ‘Jobcentreplus’

            “At present you are in the work related activity group. This means you must attend and take part in work-focused interviewsif you are asked to do so, to qualify for your benefit. You may also have to carry out work-related activities that your adviser thinks will help you be able to return to work in the future.
            If you do not attend and take part in these these interviews or do the activities you are asked to do, without a good reason, your payment can be reduced by £14.07 per week rising to £28.15 a week after four weeks until you comply” “We call this a sanction”

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          • Chinky wives are nice, especially from Sing says:

            Murdoch can get his Oz gums around my plums. The US bumboy rentboy.

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          • Chinky wives are nice, especially from Sing says:

            An economic unfit? Fit for some sweatshop work surelym since not able to run away quickly? Song for you both,

            I am being satirical, by the way, unless you work in my sweat shop – WORK WOK, katosh, wip wip. Keep an ey on them first officer, while I go and play a round of golf with my true brothers…

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          • Chinky wives are nice, especially from Sing says:

            jeeezus, need to type more slower, and learn the art of self-editing online….

            but i think you get the message, ey, you hunts?

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          • Chinky wives are nice, especially from Sing says:

            and all, love the chinese community from Sing, the old Sri Lankan/Ceylon/southern Indian one too – tried them all, even one fine lady that was from Brunei of all places, I was a gent to them all, SONG! for them all, with them dancing, off Orchard Road in Sing,

            Sorry I didn’t get back to you Helen, but that’s life.

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          • Chinky wives are nice, especially from Sing says:

            s’pose I should say that lady from Brunei was their top drawer, but we spent the whole night talking, honest! She told me what she thought of Sing, and I told her about my land, she told me about the oil wealth of Brunei and it’s effects, and I told her the collapse of energy in the UK since the Thatch. Both in the buff! But no, we didn’t do the dirty, she was glad of the night off.

            Wnen she got up in the morning, I took her down to brecky, and before she left, I held my arms wide open, and we had a long hug.

            That is diplomacy see.

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        • 45
          Anonymous says:

          Hear, hear, and also the obese, druggies, and smokers.
          Why do the taxpayers have to pay for the results of these silly bastards self inflicted injuries.

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          • Really? says:

            Are drinkers, fatties and smokers etc, not taxpayers too? In fact you will find, they pay more tax than others because of their lifestyle choices. Shouldd we charge sportspeople when they get injuries too or joggers who get sprained ankles? What about teetotal, non smoking, cyclists who get knocked down? After all that was their lifestyle choice too, wasn’t it?

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          • Steve Miliband says:

            yes

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        • 61
          An A and E doctor's Dad says:

          That would lead to certain problems of enforcement. Would you fancy doing it?

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      • 43
        UKIP.i.am.still says:

        The booze laws (another major Westminster issue – NOT) are to stop people getting cheap booze from evil supermarkets who make booze affordable for millions.

        The left would love to stop the press exposing hypocrites and Rotherham child snatchers.

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        • 71
          Nanny know best says:

          Some prat on Today this morning was banging on about “strong lager at 20p per tin”. Chance would be a fine thing

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          • XXXxx says:

            That reminds me of a few years ago, a certain shop had cheap spirits for sale, a lot of women in the market were getting excited shooting off to buy some, only £3 a bottle, they came back showing their pals the booze, such stuff as 3 year old whiskey. After that Christmas I heard they were telling a very different story, some born every minute.

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      • 208
        lojolondon says:

        90% of the problem will go away if police were allowed to use force. As it is, they are terrified of tackling drunks because someone’s camera phone will be running and the cop will forfeit his job and pension.

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    • 23
      nellnewman says:

      Chilcot now saying he’ll be reporting next Summer. There’s obviously something in there that’s controversial – a call to send bliar to the hague perhaps?

      Then again I thought maybe davidcameron is playing a long game and delaying the publication of chilcot until just before the election when it may do labour a lot of damage.

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      • 50
        UKIP.i.am.still says:

        Cameron will probably manage to make it look like he is to blame as he did with phone hacking and Libor rigging that all happened under Labour

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        • 73
          nellnewman says:

          LOL! He does seem to fall over his political feet rather a lot doesn’t he? Why on earth he appointed a leftie like leveson in the first place is very curious.

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          • Really? says:

            Because Cameron is a lefty too and really couldn’t care less regarding the damage he is doing to the Conservative party?

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          • Bollocks to Getting a Pseudonym says:

            In Camoron’s defence (not a phrase I use very often), it’s nigh impossible to find a judge who isn’t a lefty in this day and age.

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        • 94
          Gonk III says:

          In the same way that Brown was an emotional/energy black hole Cameron is a blame/guilt magnet.

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      • 123
        Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

        Chilcot was a farce anyway as cross examination of Blair and the other criminals was not allowed.

        If Chilcot or any other judge for that matter had any integrity they would never had agreed to chair it

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        • 194
          Anonymous says:

          a sickening farce.
          bbc to keep devil inquiry evidence.
          it will not be shared.
          no light will fall in it.

          the devil fuckers,

          for the duffers, devil is savile,

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    • 57
      dave says:

      I will shortly be convening an enquiry to evaluate the recommendations of the Leveson Enquiry and submit proposals to a parliamentary committee.

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    • 116
      Anonymous says:

      We cannot have a system where by PM and ministers have to go cap in hand in-front of newspaper owners (local or foreign) and their key staff. This need to change. If law will change it let it be.

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      • 132
        Really? says:

        If any PM had any integrity, he would never grovel at a newspaper owners feet in the first place. The real problem is gutless politicians, not newspaper freedom.

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        • 186
          Anonymous says:

          Issue is party leaders believed they cannot win without the support of …. I cannot blame Cameron, Blair, etc for what they did as they have to do it to become PM. We need it to be changed.

          Also, as things are, one cannot be even be sure whether MPs opposing the legislation are doing it freely. We need this sort of problems resolved.

          We already have laws stopping a lot of things from happening but for some reason it wasn’t applied. this needs to be changed.

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    • 207
      Bewildebeest says:

      ‘an independent, respected and reputable body.”
      The PCC ?
      Independant ? Paid for and populated by the Press.
      Respected ? Not by me or anyone I speak to.
      Reputable ? Relative to what – the people it claims to regulate maybe ?

      The PCC is the very reason why some are calling for statutory regulation – the PCC is proof that self regulation does not work.

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    • 223
      Anonymous says:

      Murdoch is a shill for the Roth*childs. He and his war-mongering propaganda rags can go to hell.

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  2. 2
    steve smith says:

    Vacillation dither wishy washy what’s f*cking New?

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    • 204
      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      I have the answer to Leveson. Bring in strict regulation in the Soviet model of press control over all media, including blogs like this one, particularly where MP’s are criticised or lampooned. Boaz.

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  3. 3
    Broadsword calling Danny Boy says:

    If you can’t keep your gob shut with a jackal from the press, no matter how tasty, you ought not be a minister – FACT.

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  4. 5
    Terrible But True says:

    Just when you thought the LibDems could not make themselves even more unelectable.

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    • 138
      Superclegg - always keeps a promise, but does not make many. says:

      I am determined that our party will always sit on the fence, except in instances of joining in the farcical Ed Millibandwagon political expeditions when it suits our future with our Labour partners.
      By then I will have gone to Brussels and the party will be led by a self seeking Vince / Hughes partnership.

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  5. 6
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    Westminster will spend ages debating press regulation (because it has so little else to do now, other than that great issue same sex marriage, that we are increasingly being run by Brussels) but it will not stop the press seeking the truth any more than new regulations stopped MPs fiddling expenses.

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    • 14
      Ex-Conservative voter says:

      I agree – censoring (sorry, “regulating”) the press might have worked in 1970, but all that will happen now is the news will leak on the web to foreign English-language news sites. Russia Today, for example.

      Camoron should be focusing on reducing our nation’s debt and kicking the likes of Abu Qatada out of the country, not fiddling with all the irrelevant pissy little things his tiny little mind finds so important.

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      • 32
        Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

        Not true, there’s the big important Eu, sorry, conservative idea of a fast railroad to Birmingham that all the people of Britain are crying out for.

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        • 140
          Really? says:

          Please do not forget the issue on the nations lips night and day. Namely, energy prices need to be much, much higher, in order to reduce by 2100, global CO2 output by 0.02%.

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  6. 7
    Steve Miliband says:

    All because people couldn’t be bothered to change their PIN numbers.

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    • 9
      Ed Milishambles says:

      Wunashun – wun PIN number!

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    • 18
      Chariot Harman says:

      I changed my PIE number!

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    • 25
      Mythbuster General says:

      Ah, but it wasn’t PINs. The reporters used software that spoofed packets of data to the phone companies’ voicemail systems that made those systems think the data originated from the account holders’ phones, enabling the reporter to access the voicemail without using a PIN.

      Unquestionably ‘hacking’, but the security flaw has (we are led to believe) since been blocked.

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      • 33
        Steve Miliband says:

        Perhaps the Common Purpose police can investigate the Phone companies, fine them and then regulate them? Plus, some of them don’t pay enough tax to feed the beast

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  7. 8
    Ministry of Corruption Press Release says:

    We cannot have the Press investigating our troughing and lying.

    Super Injunctions, D Notices, strict press regulation, control of the scurrilous internet blogs — THESE ARE ALL ESSENTIAL FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.

    Trust us. We are your fucking politicians, and we know what is good for us.

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    • 10
      The Grand Master, Lodge No 1 says:

      Best not for people to be rooting around into things they cannot possibly comprehend. Jahbulon

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      • 28
        Troughers United R Us says:

        Quite so. We, Your Politicians, understand these things. You know you can trust us.

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        • 142
          Westminster MP's and Lords in conjunction with the BBC. says:

          When we use the word complex it means we do not understand it, so you, the ignorant British public will never do so.

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  8. 11
    Sir Mary Flappes says:

    A woman called Dinah once showed me her Clegg. It appeared to be more of an impediment than useful.

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  9. 12
    Common Purpose Stasi says:

    Regulation of the press – check

    Minimum pricing for alcohol – check

    Prepare 12% of the English countryside for the newcomer Labour voters from the East – check

    Good week for Nanny.

    My friends in the il-Liberal Demoncrats are to be congratulated.

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    • 15
      Anonymous says:

      nanny, fuck off and die

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    • 34
      Dave "KGB" Camoron says:

      Don’t forget my £1.8billion super snooper’s system to bug all your emails, web use and phone calls!

      And my Auto Road Tolls Plan to autocharge the motorist by monitoring and recording every step of their journey.

      Hmmm. Making you pay me to spy on you!

      Spiffing!

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      • 49
        T. P. Fuller says:

        Plus NICE’s great idea to make parking so expensive you’ll have to walk 33 miles a day. Might fend off a heart attack but the NHS will spend a fortune on Moleskin.

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        • 66
          the government is short of money, let's fine the motorists scheme says:

          Watch out, plod are about with radar guns with a vengeance as the seasonal xmas traffic increases. I’ve just got two speeding fines within a few weeks, and before you say I shouldn’t have been speeding……FUCK YOU!

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  10. 16
    Cyril the Rochdale Cowardlyboy says:

    Why are little boys so fattening?

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  11. 17
    PK says:

    Cable’s a c**t, so what do you think ?

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  12. 19
    Ed Miliband (Prime Minister designate) says:

    This Tory government is much like a rainbow.

    It looks good from a distance, but on close inspection it has no real substance, you can see right through it and it’s only there because of the sun.

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    • 47
      God says:

      No, the rainbow is there as a message from ME, to assure you that there will never again be a flood.

      Apart from the current ones, that is.

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    • 152
      Really? says:

      This government just like the last one doesn’t look good from any distance. You really need a reality check Ed.

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  13. 20
    uncle joe says:

    Liberal does NOT mean Libertarian, in fact it CAN mean Totalitarian.

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  14. 24
    Joseph Gerbbels II says:

    I am really looking forward to the proper monitoring and control of the UK Press.

    It is entirely necessary for the proper presentation of the great achievements of our Leader and Government, and the selfless efforts of all the M.P.s

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    • 37
      Bluto says:

      “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

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    • 46
      Adolf Hilter says:

      You did a great job for me Joe.

      It is so important to have a muzzled press

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      • 55
        Joseph Gerbbels II says:

        Thank you Mein Fewrer.

        It is very gratyfing to know that you appreciate my humble efforts.

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        • 100
          Adolf Hilter says:

          I do indeed Joseph

          PS: Is there still no news from Stalingrad….

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          • Joseph Gerbbels II says:

            The “Latest Press Rhice Release” is as follows Mein Fewrer:
            “Reichmarshal Gurring says that Corporal Paulus and his men are inspired and reassured by the new pigeon supply service.
            Rest assured that the Russians are only armed with pincers to progress their feeble doomed counterattack.”

            I trust the decorations in the new Bunker match your standards as a world renowned painter.

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          • Stalin's Ghost says:

            We won, get over it.

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          • Albert Speercarrier says:

            You Just never got over having your carcass removed from Lenin’s Mausoleum

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  15. 26
    nellnewman says:

    I’ve never understood why bumblingvince joined the libdems – he has far more in common with the politics of folks like michaelfoot and gordonbrown.

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    • 153
      Pundit Too says:

      Cannot agree. The limpdims and certainly not the coalition are not his forte.
      He is far more attuned to working in a red brick university where his one year in the real world of business will stand him in good stead, and establish him as a beacon of wisdom to young impressionable left-wing acolytes and nymphetes.

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    • 173
      He was Labour originally says:

      I can do no better than quote from Wikipaedia

      “At university, Cable was a member of the Liberal Party but then joined the Labour Party. In 1970, he unsuccessfully contested Glasgow Hillhead for Labour, and later became a Glasgow Councillor. In 1979, he sought the Labour nomination for Hampstead, losing to Ken Livingstone, who was unsuccessful in taking the seat.

      In February 1982, he joined the recently created Social Democratic Party (SDP). He was the SDP-Liberal Alliance parliamentary candidate for his home city of York in both the 1983 and 1987 general elections. Following the 1988 merger of the alliance, he lost his 1992 general election bid as a Liberal Democrat to unseat Conservative MP Toby Jessel in the Twickenham constituency.”

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  16. 27
    No-no Nanette says:

    Nonces and lifters. No thanks.

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  17. 29

    The Liberal Democrats, wherever they go they are a bunch of untrustworthy slime. In local or national governments, the Lib Dems have been proved to be two faced backstabbers.

    The Liberal Democrats are now sadly neither ‘Liberal’ nor ‘Democratic’

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    Steve Miliband says:

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think coalition governments in the UK don’t really work.

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    • 50
      Tom Catesby says:

      ‘The British people do not like coalitions’…
      Benjamin Disraeli. After the defeat of his coalition Gov’t, 1863.

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    • 56
      fish, fowl fuck it? says:

      Er, nobody actually voted for a coalition government, and who can fucking blame them?

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    • 65
      Horse Trainer says:

      Coalitions design camels. Even their toes are fat and ugly

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    • 78
      Weird, really. says:

      It’s a paradox. All three main parties are batshit insane and totally out of touch with public opinion, so in theory they should all get along like a house on fire. But instead they’re at each other’s throats.

      Unless.. maybe it’s all just an act.

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    • 87
      UKIP.i.am.still says:

      You mean unlike the 13 years that Labour were in power, who allowed the banks to take stupid risks, national and consumer debt to soar, the economy to tank, the MPs to fiddle expenses and the press to break the law with impunity?

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    • 133
      useless says:

      come on, the 5 party coalition, with no opposition, works wonderfully in Northern Ireland.
      Continual decline in output, unemployment rising month after month after month

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  20. 36
    Tom Catesby says:

    Regulation?… Hasn’t this expensive Leveson pantomime just been to rock the public back to sleep? Same old crooks,cops and papers. We have adequate laws on already, but if your coppers, courts and politicians are bent and the newspapers make it their business to know all the’ little bits of dirty’, about such people, obscenities like the tragic Millie Dowler affair and the others will continue. The overweaning arrogance and moral degeneracy, of proprietors,editors and the rest will continue, if the law is not enforced against such scum.

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  21. 40
    bergen says:

    I suppose it is a question of whether the Liberal tradition (freedom) or the SDP tradition (statism) prevails. I always thought that the Lib Dem merger had some nasty internal contradictions.

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  22. 44
    Scrote says:

    When can we get Piers in the dock?

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  23. 48
    Nothing better to do says:

    None of the current crop of Lib Dems have any anti-statist, pro-freedom traditions. Most are big state, big brother socialists of the worst kind. In a really free country they would be regarded as extreme left wing nutters. If Dave was a proper Conservative he’d never have gone into a coalition with any of them.

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  24. 52
    Vote UKIP says:

    Camoron thinks anyone flooded is “incredibly brave”. Jesus H Christ, how did we win the war?

    Camoron wants to get it sorted. The bloke is a first class buffoon.

    He should just concrete everywhere , that would solve the flooding. Idiot

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    • 64
      Well it's a thought says:

      The tosser is shipping loads of “charity” money abroad and all he can do at home is to shout at the insurance companies, to make them pay up for flood damage, charity begins at home Camoron, at home, not to make you look good with foreign dictators looking to buy a few more Mercedes and a good Swiss bank account.

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    • 68
      Sir William Waad says:

      We cut spendng on flood defences and increased foreign aid. That was nice for the crab fishermen of Zanzibar but not so good for UK people with houses full of sludge. HMG needs to change its priorities. There’s always heaps of money for Abroad but none for its own people.

      Until we see ministerial limousines bobbing along Whitehall on the flood tide it’s unlikely that anything will change, however.

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    • 79
      The Prime Minister is a Shit says:

      How brave does that make the 400+ Soldiers that have died in Afghanistan.

      Camoron, You are a stupid ignorant cnut.

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    • 90
      Tory Party RIP - killed by Camoron says:

      Did you see the picture in today’s papers of some sad guy in his trashed post-flood house, with the PM standing next to him? My heart reached out to the guy – the last thing you want when your home’s been flooded is the looney spoonface to show up at your front door, begging for a photo-opp.

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    • 107
      Canute says:

      I’m free!

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  25. 53
    Anonymous says:

    Honestly. Fuck these papers and their ‘free speech’ bullshit. They couldn’t care less about free speech. They just like to be able to print upskirt shots of B-List celebs and sleazy made up tittle tattle and torment the parents of murdered schoolchildren for the salacious delectation of the great British public without the effort of having to worry whether any of it is true. We’d be a better country without them.

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    • 60
      Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

      What about the Telgraph and MPs expenses ?

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    • 62
      UKIP.i.am.still says:

      And no doubt we would be better off if Rotherham council was allowed to get on with its job of brainwashing kiddies into Marxism.

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      • 81
        Anonymous says:

        Does that comment actually mean something?

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        • 89
          comment macht frei says:

          Yeah, it means piss off Jimmy.

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        • 101
          UKIP.i.am.still says:

          It means the state (and every state department) will be allowed to silence the media. More page 3 girls but less exposure of hypocrisy and corruption in the public and private sector. We may eventually end up with the media being even more open to abuse because nobody else will be able to expose it.

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          • UKIP.i.am.still says:

            When the state doesn’t properly enforce existing laws it ends up creating more bad ones to compensate for the incompetence of those with the responsibility of enforcing them.

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    • 75
      life's too short to believe any goverment says:

      So Leveson should make the laws to control the public, because the public is egging on the newspapers to print more trash for ” salacious delectation of the great British public “, well that would put the newspapers into the good business league, selling the public what they want, halos all around for the journos ,

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    • 82
      Arthur Sixpence says:

      You do post absolute crap don’t you.

      Lets do away with a free press.

      Then we can get on with building a police state.

      Then, seen as we can’t stand you we can come round and shot you in the back of the head.

      Sieg Heil

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    • 198
      Synic says:

      Celebs. are hypocrites. They crave publicity. Upskirt shots are all they are good for.

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  26. 54
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    The real reason this get-up is done and dusted, it stopped Murdoch’s plans for a rival to the BBC, and by extension the labour party.

    The rest is now talking shop aftermath.

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  27. 58
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    Hugh Grant has just been on SKY spouting his Murdophobia and Mailophobia. Unsurprisingly no mention of the Mirror. No mention that this all happened under under a Labour government. No mention that current laws already exist to deal with these issues if the state was ever competent to enforce them.

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  28. 59
    Damned Impertinent Questions says:

    So we are in the depth of the second biggest economic crists in 100 years and have a conservative led government which is focused on

    1 emasculating press freedom

    2 banning M&S dinner for a tenner promotions as they conceal the real price of the booze element

    3 letting Patten wreck the BBC

    4 spending tens of millions investigating vile sex allegations against long dead celebrities and MPs no longer i n a position to answer them or defend themselves

    Is this what I voted for?

    Was all this in the Manifesto?

    Does it make me more free?

    Do I feel more better off?

    Cameron has a rare political talent. He makes Clegg look semi-competent and Milliband look almost electable. And that is scary.

    Thank God there are no serious problems out there at the moment

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    • 117
      Bluto says:

      “We will be strong in defence of freedom. The Government believes that the British state has become too authoritarian, and that over the past decade it has abused and eroded fundamental human freedoms and historic civil liberties. We need to restore the rights of individuals in the face of encroaching state power, in keeping with Britain’s tradition of freedom and fairness.

      “We will implement a full programme of measures to reverse the substantial erosion of civil liberties and roll back state intrusion.

      “We will introduce a Freedom Bill.

      “We will restore rights to non-violent protest.

      “We will review libel laws to protect freedom of speech.

      “We will introduce safeguards against the misuse of anti-terrorism legislation.

      “We will further regulate CCTV.

      “We will end the storage of internet and email records without good reason.

      “We will introduce a new mechanism to prevent the proliferation of unnecessary new criminal offences.

      Well, Mr Cameron, it is more than half way through your time in government. Can we please have an updated status report on just how far these initiatives have been progressed?

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    • 122
      Only in the Graun says:

      But M&S meals for a tenner are great value. Why don’t these interfering picks just fuck off out of our lives?

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      • 178
        cynic says:

        because you cant be trusted. You mightdrink the bottle of plonk in one night and become mildly inebriated for an hour or so and that would never do – although its OK for cabinet members to secretly quaff champagne from bottles hidden under the table at freebie curry launches

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    • 158
      Big Momma says:

      I only wish Patten would start wrecking the BBC and install a new culture – unfortunately he does not have the capability.
      DIQ – You really need to get out more.

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  29. 63
    David B says:

    Only Liberal to people who support them!

    Like

  30. 67
    Yvonne from the Colliers Arms Clydach says:

    Perhaps these Members should wait for the Leveson Report to be published before opening their gobs .

    That idiot Hunt was on the telly this morning and said that making any decision about Leveson’s report would be ‘difficult’ .

    This is arid nonsense .

    All you have to do is decide whether there should be Press Regulation or not and if so implement it in an efficient and cost effective manner .

    There is nothing ‘difficult’ about that .

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    • 74
      nellnewman says:

      ‘efficient’?! ‘cost-effective’?!

      Well neither of those things are possible for a UK Government for a start.

      Like

    • 98
      just wondering says:

      They set up the fucking enquiry. Why bother further enriching the vultures from the legal profession if you going to start rubbishing the results of the enquiry before you even get the report.

      Why is Dave getting it first? If we are paying for it surely we should get it first!

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      • 125
        life's too short to believe any goverment says:

        Dave has to check if the tome will help or hinder his popularity, after all he wouldn’t want to look like a real dick-head would he?.

        Like

  31. 69
    Thacker ( Joyce ) says:

    Come on you lot.

    You need more venom to match my 1000+

    Like

    • 103
      W.Shakespeare says:

      Joyce Thacker, CP spacker
      Name blacker, torture racker
      Child taker, misery maker
      Compassion faker, ballbreaker
      Homewrecker, brassnecker
      Cocksucker, useless fucker,
      Muck raker, God forsaker
      Justice lacker, so just sack her

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      • 106
        John Mills and the Rank Organization says:

        You haven’t lost your touch Bill.

        But I did prefer Hamlet

        Like

      • 126
        Rabble Rouser says:

        Very good Will.

        I think it would be a particularly good chant for any protesters who may wish to pitch up outside the fragrant Joyce’s house at some point.

        Like

  32. 84
    ah! monika says:

    “Hollande threatens to nationalise steel plant”

    Hollandenationalaise Sauce!

    Like

    • 97
      Jane Birkin from Paris says:

      And where pray will the money come from ?

      Indeed where has that ‘loan’ money come from to give Peugeot ?

      Is all this EU compliant .

      Like

      • 159
        The Angel Merkel says:

        He never asked me. I will speak to industry see if it is worthwhile taking over Peugeot – though I think not. What French steel industry? Are you in the Rhine?

        Like

        • 201
          I love dominant women says:

          Margaret T. looked great in that Tank photo. How about one of you riding a Wehrmacht Tiger Angela?

          Like

  33. 85
    Rinka Scott says:

    So according to Mr Fawkes this is all the fault of the Liberals .

    This morning I read that GMP are saying that Cyril Smith should have had his collar felt during his lifetime in relation to inappropriate actions involving little boys .

    This is not the first time and will most certainly not be the last when I say you cannot trust a Liberal .

    1. Jeremy Thorpe . Acquitted of murder .

    2 . Cyril Smith see above

    3. ChrIs Huhne just smell the coffee

    4. Chris Davies just smell the smoke

    5. Charles Kennedy Drunk in Charge of a Political Party

    6. Laws Just look at those expenses

    7. Lloyd George,Parnell , Ashdown ,Hancock a risk to ant respectable woman

    I could go on and on and on but as Mr Fawkes so correctly implies this is all the fault of the Liberals so why oh why do they continue to enjoy the trappings of High Office ?

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  34. 88
    Moussa Koussa Mark 2 says:

    This is just priceless

    Guido and his brethren neo nuts desperate toadying to their master, “The Murdoch Mong” ( Wendy – me love you long time, pay me 10 dollar ) Now now..no complaints, just free speech.

    Whether happen you fu*ck wits have come out poorly.

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  35. 93
    Moussa Koussa Mark 2 says:

    £5 for a pint within a year

    Thanks Neo Fu*cks

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    • 109
      monga crapper 2 says:

      yep bet the political party with it’s hand up your passage wouldn’t do this ?? lol

      Like

    • 145
      life's too short to believe any goverment says:

      What’s up it’s been a Liebour project to control the habits of the braindead, wouldn’t want a place for people to gather and talk politics, so make a law to stop people smoking in public buildings, people stay at home and just in case they are still talking about politics then lets stick loads of money on booze from the supermarkets, after all it will keep people healthy and bring new taxes in , don’t worry Liebour have an expertise in double taxing things, LibLabCon, just a different branch of the business.

      Like

    • 161
      Mine's a pint says:

      Put a tax on fudge. That’ll hit these packers where it hurts.

      Like

    • 163
      The Economist's apprentice says:

      You could be right. It is already £3.15 at my nearest pub and it is not anywhere near London.
      It is simply Brownsian economics – revenues fall then put up the prices; revenues fall further, then put up the prices again etc etc.
      Where in the world is that knumskull Brown now?

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      • 212
        knumskull? You mean numbskull, dickhead says:

        Like the man who looks after the sheep
        he’s down in the haystack with Little Bo Peep.

        Like

  36. 102
    Anonymous says:

    You are a Murdophillic spinmeister, aren’t you Guido?
    Tony

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  37. 111
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    N.B. When the state doesn’t properly enforce existing laws it ends up creating more bad ones to compensate for the incompetence of those with the responsibility of enforcing them.

    Like

  38. 112
    Moussa Koussa Mark 2 says:

    Here is a little insight for you Borisido Boriswkes ( coz you have none )

    Have you noticed that Dave has been rolling out all his Gay Boy Backbenchers recently.

    They are little shi*te in a field at the moment. TV radio, Press, key media spokesgays on the major issues of the day

    Like

    • 119
      Wotta Tossa Skid Mark 2 says:

      Unlike you, most of us don’t spend our days looking at/for gay people.

      Like

    • 124
      Steve Miliband says:

      Gayist

      Like

    • 130
      Gonk III says:

      Unfunny and witless

      Like

    • 144
      I do not think Keith Vaz is entirely unblemished says:

      When I heard Cameron’s chum Jeremy Hunt on the television this morning I thought he was having a joke .He said

      1. upping taxes on alcohol would save two lives a day from liver disease although this represented only a tiny percentage of the problem

      2. he said higher alcohol taxes were being introduced to stop unruly behaviour late at night in our city centers

      3. new taxes would not increase prices in pubs

      4 . new taxes were not going to be made with a view to increasing tax revenues .

      Will the last person out of Heathrow please put down the toilet seat !

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      • 168
        IMHO says:

        No chance of them leading by example and stopping the £6 million booze and grub subsidy in the HOP I suppose.

        Like

        • 206
          oddly helpful says:

          The very clever thing about taxing liquor at 45p per ‘unit’ is that it barely affects the price of wine and spirits. It establishes the principle of setting a price on an intangible concept – pure ethanol – invisible as a proportion of other ingredients. It makes the principle of triple taxation; alongside excise duty and VAT an everday fact. It sets a baseline level upon which subsequent Chancellors will doubtless build.

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  39. 129
    Calamity Clegg says:

    I thought I’d just about destroyed the FibDems in the Country.

    All we’ve got left now is the a team of diehard yoghurt-knitting, wind turbine hugging, tax-and-spending, lying fruitcakes.

    Like

  40. 139
    ah! monika says:

    Alan Mills ” Education Expert”

    …When the BBC thinks Toby Young is an expert on education, when discussion in the media is led by those with no experience of state education and when the Labour Party Education spokesman is really just Mr Govelite, those of us in education have a long and steep road to rescue education in 2015.

    Like

    • 141
      Mrs. Mills says:

      Don’t blame me.

      Like

      • 214
        knumskull? You mean numbskull, dickhead says:

        Where ewe the won what tolled Yahoo an the others that ingland add the 6th bestest ejerkayshun cistern in the werld?

        Like

    • 167
      Pundit too too says:

      Gove must be doing something right.
      The BBC and Liebor Party hate him, as do the usual left-wing so-called comedians on BBC which is why he is mentioned so much to raise the usual applause from their “audience” fellow travellers.
      Probably frightened that a man of talent and some wisdom is amongst them.

      Like

      • 192
        Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

        Always remember “when you are taking the flack it means you are near the target”

        Keep going Mr. Gove

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  41. 143
    Imagine this fucker on top of you says:

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    • 150
      The LibDemon party says:

      Nick Clegg described Cyril Smith as,

      ‘A true Liberal who showed great passion and determination’…………………

      Like

    • 156
      Beeb Newsnight Government Mouthpiece says:

      Shock Horror. A gross Libdum kiddy molester.
      However, it doesn’t need as much cover as that Senior Tory story does it?

      Like

      • 162
        George Entwistle says:

        I’ve just found out my name is George Entwistle. I wasn’t aware of this before. Some have asked why I never bothered to find out my name but it just never occurred to me to do so.

        Like

      • 170
        BBC Newsnight - the reliable news service. says:

        We are still desperately searching for a paedophile Tory MP, even one who has been dead up to 100 years.
        We are again investigating the hated Thatcher to see if she encourage it.
        Unfortunately Thacker is not the same person.
        We will keep you informed immediately by twitternet when this occurs.

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      • 181
        The BBC are cunts says:

        Like

  42. 149
    Bluebottle says:

    If that person had been on top of you then you would still qualify for a CICB payment even under the new tariffs .

    Stop hitting me please ,Officer;

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  43. 151
    Diane says:

    Laura Rosen Cohen ‏@LauraRosenCohen
    Je wish mother of the year beats armed terrorist w/ #KravMaga-don’t f&ck with Je wish mothers protecting their kids =>http://tiny.cc/lrtfow

    We just stand by a wall

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  44. 166
    Loopy Lou says:

    They have just had a gentleman on Sky News saying that when the Government raises alcohol duties it will in the long term save us all money .

    Is this what having a Free Press is all about ?

    Like

  45. 174
    Anonymous says:

    Blunkett is a cυnt who spent his time in office following tory policies, turning the civil service into lackeys of the NuLab traitors, and fucking some tory bird.

    Anything he supports is shit.

    Like

  46. 175
    Funny how Gordie didn't mind the Murdochs when he was having them over for dinner and pajama parties says:

    Like

  47. 180
    NickedCave says:

    Surely you can have press freedom and still accept that it’s bad practice to get your scoops by hacking into the phone of a dead schoolgirl.

    Like

  48. 183
    Mark Carney says:

    Billionaire right wing political blogger,Guido Fawkes believes the US fiscal cliff may not be solved until January, missing the December deadline, as markets remain jittery.

    Like

  49. 189
    albacore says:

    Is it some mutant form of advanced senility
    That still accords the LibLabCons credibility?
    Maybe widespread psychoses or mad cow disease?
    What else lets these mafiosi do as they please?

    Like

  50. 191
    Chinky wives are nice, especially from Sing says:

    Advice to all who fanicies being a spook abroad – as soon as the plane lands, tell everyone who matters you meet that you are a brit spook having a look, or whatever country you partake in, Murdoch, and then they will show genuine interest in you, in what you have to say, and in return, they will open up easily, to feed back to those twats in Whitehall.

    But anyway, also, don’t think you are James Bond, 007 and a half, thinking you can start mowing down foreighners with a browning pistol shootah, or whatever he is supposed to belgium designed carry.

    It just won’t simply work these days, old boy.

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    • 210
      My flooded fine and red land says:

      ok , Walter PP, designed in actually some arse part of France – a shootah is a shootah after all, ey lads? Brad Pitt?

      Yeh whatever, you fecking pikey yank!

      Like

      • 211
        My flooded fine and red land says:

        tried to look for Brad Pitt and his pickeys with their shootahs pals, but lost patience, so this will do, ey Madge, I will give you one after,

        Madge,

        Happy now Madge? And, find someone else to paint and decorate for you, AND I WANT TO BE PAID IN ACTUAL MONEY NEXT TIME, even those things sold well on ebay, especially the stained ones…

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        • 213
          My flooded fine and red land says:

          secret all, she has legs as short as a sumo wrestler, and find it hard to orgasm. Recomended naiacin and b12 and folic acid vitamin tablets and high protein steak for her a couple of hours before, and it seemed to work… She took the tiles off the roof with her screams…

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  51. 193
    Moussa Koussa Mark 2 says:

    Another great day for The Mong Murdoch ( me love you long time, you pay me 10 dollar )

    Louis Walsh compo £500K

    Andy Cockson wins case, so The Mong has to pay his legal bill

    YOU CAN GO BACK TO RUPERT’S COCK NOW , GUIDO….LOL

    THE ONLY NICE THING ABOUT MURDOCH, IS THAT HE IS CLOSE TO HIS GRAVE

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  52. 197
    Anonymous says:

    Who is this Nick Boles that thinks buildings are more beautiful than nature!

    Look at his numbers 3% more development in open areas and our troubles are solved. Obviously not a master of the concept of supply and demand.

    So 3% disappears. When does the next 3% go. So in 30 times the future vision distance of a “Nick Boles” we will be building over the sea too.

    People as a group are sensible. Historically they have used appropriate land for development. For example an area with a water supply or sheltered from winds. Now those areas are gone, we have to build in inappropriate areas. Or worse areas more appropriate to other tasks like “nature”.

    So 3% more water usage, greater than 3% more energy usage, 3% less, or worse, agricultural land, much greater than 3% more imports.

    On which level does he think this is “sustainable”. This word is the corner stone of development permissions, but as long as it does not include the big picture, and only issues relating to the one piece of land, it is all “developable”.

    It is the big picture that should be “sustainable”. We can not sustain this growth in numbers. The only way the “Nick Boles” method will work, is to start invading and depopulating other countries so that they can be forced to produce our needs.

    Typical arguments of a person given a task to fix a symptom. While the leaders ignore the illness.

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    • 199
      Dave the Planner says:

      What’s the problem, if we shit concrete over 10% of the remaining countryside each year there will always be some left to destroy the following year. We guarantee there will always be countryside in the U.K.

      Like

    • 216
      Rolypoly says:

      Be much easier if Dave simply deported all the illegals and undesirables first and then see how many new houses just might possibly be needed.

      Like

  53. 200

    The pedant in me feels the need to point out it’s averse not adverse.

    Like

  54. 205
    neilfutureboy says:

    I think we will be on a hiding to nothing if we stand on claiming the PCC is an “independent, respected and reputable body.” The argument against government regulation is that it would be even less independent, respected and reputable.

    Like

  55. 224
    Geoffrey Brooking says:

    Clegg never did see Eye 2 Eye with Handycock, Oatarse or Huhneytunes on this one :)

    Like


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