Fraser Nelson: Spectator Won’t Abide By Statutory Regulation
In a leader in this week’s Spectator the editor pledges to go to jail rather than abide by statutory press regulation:
If the press agrees a new form of self-regulation, perhaps contractually binding this time, we will happily take part. But we would not sign up to anything enforced by government. If such a group is constituted we will not attend its meetings, pay its fines nor heed its menaces. We would still obey the (other) laws of the land. But to join any scheme which subordinates press to parliament would be a betrayal of what this paper has stood for since its inception in 1828.
If Cameron caves in to Leveson it looks like Fraser Nelson could be following in the Spectator tradition. Like his columnist Taki before him, he could be on his way to Pentonville…
how do I get crumbs out of my beard?
Nelson should avoid the poop deck of pre-emption
Making an unnecessary stand ahead of the statement is fool Hardy
Very Nelsonian Admiral
The number of underemployed – those who want to work more hours – hit a total of 3.05 million in 2012, a 50pc jump since 2008, with school crossing assistants and bar staff some of the jobs with the highest levels of underemployment, with one in four part-time workers wanting to work more hours.
The 3.05m underemployed represents around 1 in 10 of the 29.41m people in work, giving an underemployment rate of 10.5pc.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/9708047/Underemployed-workers-jump-by-1m-since-financial-crisis.html
God you are boring. Why are you so boring. The whole internet to troll and you picked the most boring item on it.
What a grey suited, joyless, fish faced, adenoidal dullard you must be.
Booorrring.
Oh the fucking english Lahndahn numbnut ‘king Spectator, lost in their inner mind inner pathetic mind space. Know the way to Heathrom and Gatwick and Stanstead, but maybe needing help to get to inner City airport, by blackcabs, but would not know their Cumbrias from their Argyles, without help from their satnav from Halfords, recommended by that hunt, Cotsworlds own Jism Clarkson, looking at photos of Fiona Bruce and and wotsername, oh yes, fecking Kristin Scott-Thomas, and ok Jezza, ok there, I’d jism as well Jezza, half a chance.
yop
Thank God someone’s prepared to make a stand.
know you are asking for it all, a song appropriate – but Jezza or Fiona or Kisten, hmmm – see who I come across first…
fecking se england tarts and pwnani boys, is all I have to say.
Probably because he already knows from the inside track what Nanny Cameron is likely to knee-jerk towards.
If law is changed he might not have the same options as now. The issue I have is; PM, ministers, MPs, etc going cap in hand to newspaper owners and senior staff. This has to change.
For some reason even existing law wasn’t enforced, these has to change.
Written like a craven ZaNuLieBor fuckwit!
Do fuck off and go air your party’s views elsewhere!
Both Labour and Conservatives did it. LD didn’t, mainly because media owner didn’t believe they will be in power.
Problem is with the system and needs to change. As far as I understand all the countries have laws on media and news papers except UK.
Kiss. Me. …….chukus
Oh all right then if you insist on being pedantically correct.
Kissme. ….. Hardy
Buy a Budgie.
Fraser jolly good fellow *¨*•♫♪
Fraser jolly good fellow *¨*•♫♪
Fraser jolly good fe..e..llow!! *¨*•♫♪
And so so all of us in “D” wing who think he’s got a perdy mouth!
If Fraser Nelson does go to jail he will find out if each prisoner has a coloured tv, fitted plush carpet, and a shoer each day.
I never realised that prisoners had someone to put on their footwear!
I think he meant show-er as in ‘it’s your turn to let it/them all hang out today’.
What is a “w” between writter on this blog.
Something much more interesting happening tomorrow
there I go again this time adding an extra “t” in writer
prison education will never be the same, lol
I prefer smuggling them.
Good!
it is time to go to jail.
for not paying the paedo license fee.
And if it is contempt of court a double wammy
You wanne be in my gang, my gang, my gang
You wanna be in my gang
Oh yeah
I love you, love
I play with poo love!
I love you
But no one loves me, yeah!
Skip to the loo
I just have to
Skip to the loo
i know what to do
Skip to the loo
Go for a pooh
Skip to the loo
Oops, I’ll sue you
Bang the pompous little tartan twat up.
But where do we find Gordon?
From 2.30pm tomorrow in the House of Commons in his place for once awaiting to be called to speak thereafter having done so he will NOT be in the House of Commons in his usual place
Behind bars ?
t is a great pity that politicians do not have the same degree of courage and principle as Fraser Nelson.
We need that kind of courage and determination to deal with the problem of Europe.
What pompous, self-important windbaggery.
He seems to think the press is not subordinate to Parliament. An unusual conception of Parliamantary sovereignty….
Crap yerself.
I demand the right to publish any twaddle I want. (And I usually do.)
Why do think the US has the First Amendment?
Wake me up when we get the 2nd amendment.
Because if they didn’t, the second amendment would be an anachronism?
It seems to me that most of the problems of the long suffering English relate to Parliamentary sovereignty, either the weight they chuck about here or the weight they can’t and won’t chuck about in Brussels.
Good for Mr Nelson.
+1
+ another one
Crap by name, crap by nature.
You can fuck off too!
LOL
Floppy haired fop and elephant man impersonator Fuewayzsar Nelson will not comply
His 50 subscribers will be overjoyed.
Now f*ck off back to Dave Cock and his band of Gay ministers
Sweet Jesu mousey your getting worse
Always at lunchtime, isn’t it. Lunchtime and on the commute in/home.
Either Moussa works in a remote area, on sentry duty at the edge of a military establishment, or servicing machinery in a very small space…or more likely Moussa hasn’t a single acquaintance to share anything with.
Moussa……….work……..oxymoron.
Moussa – no oxy, all moron.
Any relation yo Piers?
We agree with Moussa
Mousey baby, your left wing credentials should be removed from you ,please report to the nearest Liebour office for orientation training or in your cas brainwashing.
Preferably extracted via your fundament!
On second thoughts you would probably enjoy it!
He was another one all puffed up about Europe, until asked whether the UK should leave, and he hadnt the balls to say yes
Agreed. Paper tiger ?
C-M-D already said that independent regulation is the way forward (needs teeth). What’s the panic and fuss about?
The MSM seems to have ignored the car crash appearance yesterday of the Fat Pang, he was worse than Entwhisltle
…he can share his cell with Cockson or Brookes.
or me.
Not with me. I’m sharing with Huhne.
….and our butlers.
Zzzzzzzzz……..hmm…. ..zzz zzz zzz
‘Subordinate to parliament’.Do you want to the state to interfere in what you say to your wife ,in bed.
Do you want the world to know what you say to your wife in bed?
Or, indeed, your conversations with your servants?
Just received an advance copy of the Leveson report. Disappointed that he has discounted the idea of regulating Mr Cameron.
copy cat
Elizabeth Windsor @Queen_UK
Just received an advance copy of the Leveson report. Disappointed that he has discounted the idea of regulating Mr Cameron.
The Queen!
Who the fuck gave Pants Bryant an advance copy?
it is a mystery why the Queen is privy to all state secrets.
what is it got to do with her.
Remember to vote LABOUR tomorrow for East Germany redux.
Vote Labour or we’ll take your kids.
We Just received an advance copy of the Leveson report…. regulation? In your dreams!
JOYCE THACKER – has she been fired yet or is it all swept ubder the carpet??
Did it this morning, all gone now nothing to see here
Guido, in your WSJ article you stated that a regulated press would benefit you as your blog would not be subject to regulation and would therefore attract more readers, and thereby make you more money.
I assume that you make your money through advertising. It would surely not be difficult for the government to legislate against businesses trading in the UK advertising on blogs that failed to comply with the requisite regulation. Your source of income would therefore dry up, given that your target audience is in the UK.
I would think that would be impossible. What law are you thinking of basing it on? The EU allows free trade throughout Europe. Advertising is a business. A ban on UK companies advertising in UK press, but that allows EU countries to advertise would fail immediately.
The free trade principles are subject to public policy derogations. The government could probably mount a credible argument that the need to prevent circumvention of the statutory regulation satisfied public policy needs.
As for your second point, I didn’t say “UK companies” — I very deliberately wrote “companies trading in the UK”. That’s not limited to UK companies.
What law am I thinking of basing it on? None at present — I’m talking about if the government legislates to impose statutory regulation upon the press.
The government can ban advertising. Fags and booze and hookers and such.
The US has form on banning outside influences. Intrade for one, so your idea is not without foundation.
But the EU makes it an impossibility in the UK. Companies ‘trading in the UK’ being banned is the same as companies ‘not trading in the UK’ being allowed. Its anti competitive and a ban would need to be EU wide, incorporating laws from all the Eurozone, or it would fail.
In a perfect irony the EU would come to the aid of the right wing press.
Bill, your last point doesn’t make sense. Why would a company that does not trade in the UK wish to advertise on a web-site that is almost wholly, if not wholly, directed at the UK market? There is no issue of anti-competitiveness.
And you have misunderstood the law. Member States have the power to enter into public policy derogations within their own borders, and — by definition — not across the EU. For example, different member states have different policies on banning use of asbestos. Similarly, some member states ban re-processing of single-use medical devices (e.g. France); others, (e.g. the UK) don’t. You have got the law completely wrong.
Not the only thing he gets wrong. Just another Greedo groupie.
If HoC did regulate the press blogs like this would thrive, MP’s would be digging their own graves
Mps would just post on blogs such as this, be it right, centre or left preaching to what they think are the already coverted
I heard a DJ from a Pirate radio ship say that a UK law in the 60s required that any business that advertised had to withdraw from the UK market.
They then broadcast adverts for BOAC and, I may be wrong, Shell, and nothing happened.
That just shows that there was a precedent for what I’m suggesting the government might do, and that the government at the time chose not to enforce in that particular instance.
In the 1960s Parliament had the power to do such things, as we were an independent nation then. We were not even in the European Community (as it was known) let alone in the fascistic EU.
We had rickets too – lots of them and not all of them were politicians!
See above. The government still has the power where there are public policy considerations.
Remember Radio Caroline et aliter.
I would go to prison before I would betray my principles!
Now .. all labour MPs…follow me in joining with far right Tories to vote for an EU budget cut..
{you can’t jail me…I have no principles.}
I’ve met 100s of interesting people
I bet Fraser Nelson wasnt one ,didnt you once meet Cyril Smith?
No f….r read it anyway
They (you?) should; it’s good.
Thank you for that philosophical meesage
Shop at Binns.
I told u yesterday it closed years ago we got a brand new Primark and Poundland to replacw……shop in Newcastle is the new mantra in Blunderland
Jail is the best place for this guy .
He will soon learn what the phrase ‘cellmate from hell’ really means .
Don’t worry Christine the oil reserves in your area are of a poor quality. Not worth drilling for.
If the bumptious fool wants to take part in “I’m a Martyr Incarcerate Me” I promise to voter to keep him in.
Presumably you are using your hands for communing with the Bishop!
He and Mc Shame can share a cell,nows theres an interesting pairing
Save a slot for me and we’ve got our own Parliament.
A spokesboy for Cyril Smith says can he come too?
I don’t see what his problem is. He’s so far up Cameron and spouting the left wing orthodoxy that you can see up his kilt.
I suppose if Labour got in…
Vote early ! Vote often !
If voting changed anything they’d abolish it. Discuss.
It changed my life. Disgust.
‘postal vote early’ shurely?
Rotherham…Vote early, vote often. We will!
So Leveson is published tomorrow. Who wants to bet the BBC and Rotherham council publish their reports as well?
Well they did say that certian employees had changed their tax status, the day omaha got re elected. And even then it was about two thirds into the news, about the time when everyone has glazed over whilst watching a protracted item from a hot country.
Of course! When cameron was caught out at the despatch box saying: “Right, lets go do our reading”, he was talking about his advance copy of the report.
You’ll see through a brick wall – given time, lass
Fraser’s a fully paid up member of the establishment, the fact that he still writes for the Barclay Brothers says it all, ghastly lefty rag these days infested with moronic trolls.
Self centred little toad .
He will expect the taxpayer to pay for his board and lodgings.
Fine the count, I say
I take it that by now thousands of people will have read the Leveson thingy. So who is going to risk the wrath of Brian and leak it?
Wasn’t that a film title – The Wrath of Brian?
Millions of people will not read the Levenson report!
What’s the difference between a prostitute and the Conservative led coalition government?
One will fuck anything for money and the other is a prostitute.
Laugh ?? I thought I’d never start.
Is that a joke? Could you please point out the punchline. It isn’t immediately clear.
Hiya TwAT.
Labour leader Ed Miliband has promised to rebuild Britain as one nation.
Moldova.
To be renamed Concretova?
That Red Witch has had it when the noble lord presides. No more £3.5million, riding with Cameron or stuffing his capon at Saturnalia…..
Sounds like another Moussa.
Moussa’s prick wouldn’t even touch the sides of a capon’s gizzard!
All the press are paid up members of the establishment. If they don’t comply they get cut out of the politicla loop and get no stories. No stories mean no job.
Does anyone really believe the press didn’t know about the thieving of our politicians? The only reason the Telegraph ran the story was Heather Brooke was on the case and had already highlighted the lack of transparency over expenses and it was quite likely someone would leak the CD with the expenses on making Fleetstreet look sleazy for NOT wanting to run the story.
For example someone like Guido may well have ended up with the CD, so the idea that Fleetstreet holds the politicians to account is just bollocks.
No kissing of my boots -> No stories -> No stories -> No job.
How do you think we controlled the meeeja ??
Getting banged up for taking a principled stand against Government oppression is what happens to the person who challenges them, but here’s also what happens: You can become a hero to your cause, and sway public opinion your way; “First they ignore you, etc.” Standing up to the powers-that-be is a longstanding tradition, as is civil disobedience to an illegitimate use of force against you. Being prosecuted for defence of liberty is a badge of honour. No– getting banged up is not the worst thing that can happen to you for your actions.
Being murdered is. And Martin Luther King agrees with me on this.
Where does Dr Kelly stand?
It now says on my bill from Br. Gas, 19 % of the cost of my energy is for Government obligations and taxes including Green levies and social support.
FFS its as bad as petrol………….
Oh, stuff and nonsense! Man-made global warming is a real threat. Do you not stop to think of all the drowning whales? All the polar bears sitting forlornly on their remote icebergs, unable to catch penguins for their supper?
And what about my super-rich daddy-in-law who gets £1,000 every day tax-free for having a windmill on his estate? Would you really begrudge him that money?
So cough-up my green taxes, peasant, and remember; we’re all in this together.
Toodle pip!
Were in it, you just pay lip service.
Long swim for the polar bear – although I suppose they could stop off for a re-fill at the Galapagos on the way to Antarctica
…or the Bearlyrics?
The rebirth of Samizdat.
“Fuck” can be used as a verb, adverb, adjective, command, interjection, noun, and can logically be used as virtually any word in a sentence.
Why don’t you fuck the fucketty, fucking, fucker, fuckeroo off.
{Hey! you were right.}
For fucks sake!
The fucking fucker’s fucking fucked.
faaaaaaa……is about falling.
yuk……………
maybe it is time to abstain. or rather use that energy better.
the energy of anger.
Better to get hot under the collar, than have Old Bill’s smeary hand there.
Or even Uncle Cyril!
any legislation will be drafted on the hoof; ergo full of holes. So if it goes to court QCs will be queueing up to take the test case, and even if they’re not queueing round the block, the Spectator can raise the funds for a good one. No one will want the fight; if it’s a criminal matter the CPS won;t touch it, if a civil one they’ll shite themselves at the prospect of a) looking like the tool of a fascist regime and b) getting counter-sued.
In other words, this don’t mean a thing.
All legislation in this country is drafted or sent from the management in Brussels is already full of holes, the taxpayer has to feed the hungry lawyers, how will the be able to get their tenth house and Bentley if they are not fed.
I’ve met hundreds of interesting people. Get an instant quote from Sun Life Direct.
I had that Michael Parkinson in the back of my cab once. He didn’t like it when he couldn’t get a word. I told him what’s sauce for the goose………..
Where did you go for a gander?
Why doesn’t christian Geedo care about what happens to his fellow christians in Is*ael?
Who gives a flying fuc.k (you WERE right #94!) about what one bunch of deluded sky fairy botherers think about another band of different sky fairy botherers?
Perhaps they felt it was shameful the they were not wearing the official special Small Hat of Yahweh (aviallable at a very good price for YOU, at all branches of Abe Winkelstein’s Hats ‘R Us)
Or did they not have the strangely red beard on a dark haired man, or the clothes that went out of fashion over a century ago?
It is very confusing, conversing with the confused and the deluded.
Don’t make poor Mr Fawkes choose.
Free the Spectator One!
Free the Jackson 4!
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Go short on everything (including gold)
*¨*•♫♪ We’re all going on a summer holiday *¨*•♫♪ The young ones, darling we’re the young ones *¨*•♫♪
Oh how I love the sound of empty bravado at lunchtime.
Let’s see how brave he his after a few showers at the Scrubs.
England Expects Each Editor To Do His Own Slopping Out
What a silly twat !
Our department considers such statement of intent to flout an as yet unwritten law at some undetermined time in the future as grounds for taking the children into state custody. We stand by the actions of our social workers in enforcing this aspect of child protection and kindly ask the press to stop investigating our decisions before we consider your suitability to parent.
Well said Nelson!
If any media outlet or institution that makes the case for state regulation then the BBC upholds that need for state control. Its arrogance and destructive days are hopefully numbered. Fingers crossed.
Fraser Nelson
Doesn’t matter what the reason is so long as he goes to jail.
That will be enough to be getting on with while we countdown to regime change.
Remember what happened to “The Face” back in 1994 when Jason Donovan sued them over homosexuality claims.
They went under as a result cause they couldn’t pay their legal bills.
Sad times. Too many broken hearts in this world, too many dreams to be broken in too.
I don’t think too many people would be sad to see The Speccie go the same way but one can only dream (will do)
I’m looking forward to seeing more of the press gang in jail, if they want to volunteer that’s fine by me.Make sure they leave enough room for Rebbeca and Co! LOL.