November 22nd, 2012

How Wind Farm Owners Are Ripping Us Off

A great piece of digging coming up in this week’s Speccie. Green businesses have been taking part in a scam known as ‘de-rating’, deliberately producing less energy than they are capable of in order to cash in on disincentivising government subsidies. With low-energy wind turbines given almost double the subsidy of their high-power alternatives in order to encourage new businesses to enter the market, owners of giant wind farms have been running their turbines at half capacity so they can trouser the top rate.

DECC are aware of the scam but have yet to do anything about it…


  1. 1
    John Prescott says:

    I produce lots of air. Usually smells of kung pow chicken.

  2. 2
    I was Mandy's gerbil says:

    No surprise there then

  3. 3
    V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

    I’ll bet Wallace Multimillionaire Miliband is involved somewhere.

  4. 4
    Moussa Koussa Mark 2 says:

    YAWN….Nothing about Francis Monge. The Maude is the biggest flipper of them all…..shhhhhh

  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    If we force free marketing, go for cheap energy and an open and transparent system we can cut by half.

  6. 6
    an humble boil-herd says:

    drop the word ‘wind’ – FARM OWNERS are all ripping us off

  7. 7
    Nick Clegg says:

    It is the right thing to do.

  8. 8
    The Great Global Warming Scam says:

    BREAKING NEWS……Widespread driving rain and gusts of 70mph cover the UK….Wind Turbines and Solar Energy Panels unable to operate

  9. 9
    Nothing better to do says:

    Government – inefficiency, bungs to their supporters and waste on a grand scale.

  10. 10
    My Noble Lord says:

    30,000 p*edos in Uk. If p*edophilia was a football team it’d be the third biggest side in Scotland and regularly challenge for Europe.

  11. 11
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    Old MacDonald had a farm,
    Eee-I Ee-I O
    And on that farm he had a subsidised Wiind Turbine
    Eee-I Ee-I O
    With a ££££ here

    etc. (ad lib to coda)

  12. 12
    eD Miliband says:

    I have never been out of a metropolitan area.

  13. 13
    Don Quixote Cameron says:

    We love wind farms

    They represent Samantha’s tax free pension fund

    But I am worried that there will be black outs because of them

    Can anyone tell me what happens when the wind does not blow enough to power millions of households please?

    My civil servants do not know…

  14. 14
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    Here’s how farming generally works for you and the landed classes:

    You -> VAT -> EU -> Wind Farm & CAP subsidies -> The Rich

    Hoons who are rich and landed because their ancestors were on William the Conqueror’s side, or nicked the people’s land through the Enclosure Acts.

    As you can see, benefits, er, I mean, subsidies, are essential for people who own land, as without the money the land would evaporate. It’s hard work, surveying all that you own, y’know.

  15. 15
    Judge Dreadful says:

    Arrest them for fraud. Its not rocket science

  16. 16
    ÁC1 says:

    Do you know you can get called a communist for quoting David Ricardo and Adam Smith?

  17. 17
    Ex-Tory says:

    Only 36% were white. So 64% of child sex offenders operating in the UK are non-white and they make up just 10% of the population. I wonder what % of the victims are white.

  18. 18
    ÁC1 says:

    DECC or the other rent-seekers?

  19. 19
    dirty pigs says:

    playing in the smaller cups too

  20. 20
    summed up perfectly says:

    too true

  21. 21
    ÁC1 says:



  22. 22
    Polish patriot says:

    The fucking Germans are at it again

    Blowing upo our power grid with their excess wind power

  23. 23
    I was Mandy's gerbil says:

    The Justice of the Peace

    Distinguish carefully between these two,

    This thing is yours, that other thing is mine.

    You have a shirt, a brimless hat, a shoe

    And half a coat. I am the Lord benign

    Of fifty hundred acres of fat land

    To which I have a right. You understand?

    I have a right because I have, because,

    Because I have, because I have a right.

    Now be quite calm and good, obey the laws,

    Remember your low station, do not fight

    Against the goad, because, you know, it pricks

    Whenever the uncleanly demos kicks.

    I do not envy you your hat, your shoe.

    Why should you envy me my small estate?

    It’s fearfully illogical of you

    To fight with economic force and fate.

    Moreover, I have got the upper hand,

    And mean to keep it. Do you understand?

  24. 24
    hatethemhatethemhatethem says:

    so, when the country finally comes to its senses, how long will it take to dismantle all these monstrosities?

  25. 25
    Red Egg Millitit..... says:

    Wind power, global warming both about as believable as Don Quixote :)

  26. 26
    Pensioner says:

    Will my lights go out when there is no wind please?

  27. 27
    Judge Dreadful says:

    Whoever is taking the money and whoever is conspiring with them and/or aiding and abetting the rip-off. If that means DECC people, so be it.

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    How do I go about sacking these lazy fuckers ?

    If they work for me they work their fuckin buts off .

    If they dont like it they can catch a slow train to Athens or somewhere as they are no use to me .

    And where is my CEO Cameron today ?

    When he gets back he is going to have some earache over this.

  29. 29

    Windmills in the Shetlands are almost self sustaining, and will be in a few years with better technology.
    Everywhere else they lose money..well, lose money for us. The owners make a mint.

  30. 30
    Daves cast iron pledge that we will all pay lowest bill says:

    No only when it gets cold and you can’t afford any heat

  31. 31
    Herman Achille Van Rompuy says:


    Don’t forget my fucking money you cock sucker.

  32. 32
    Alec Tric-Trump says:

    I have installed one of these things in my underpants. My iPhone has never gone flat since starting my sprouts diet.

  33. 33
    Francois Hollandaise says:

    Vous need to give us ze Money. Or we will be unable to pass many new laws on you.

  34. 34
    The Public says:

    Flood the chunnel

  35. 35
    Dave says:

    Not just windfarms.
    Since the 1950s there have been very successful hydro electric schemes in Scotland. When the equipment came up for renewal they installed smaller generators in order to get the top rate usually reserved for small schemes. We get less electricity generated. They get more money!

  36. 36
    chris1943 says:

    Twerp.What about family run farms? We might be doing OK but certainly not making a fortune. Some smaller farmers going under. Large farms run by companies. DO get into the 21st century or even the 20th!!

  37. 37
    Anonymous says:

    Vote UKIP

  38. 38
    an humble boil-herd says:

    hiding behind the children?

  39. 39
    its tough out there says:

    and as a farmer you’ve no business rates, subsidised diesel, no VED on farm vehicles, privileged planning permits for house building, inheritance tax benefits

    you then pay a tax accountant (tax-farmer), with the tax-payers money to book accounting losses whilst assuring the revenue that you are, prospectively, profitable

    then you send out the wife to ‘work’ and offset your ‘losses’ against tax she (perish the thought) might have paid

    PLUS the solar panel site (paid for regressively by lower income groups)and the wind farms

    all this and more because – you say – you can’t stand on your own 3 feet

  40. 40
    Traveller says:

    Bollocks. I’ve stood on a hilltop in Crete and the wind was so strong that I had to cling to the trig point to remain standing. The wind turbines on neighbouring hills were merrily whizzing round quite happily.

  41. 41
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    How often are the landowner’s subsidies passed on to tenant farmers?

  42. 42 says:

    As usual the bloody useless, incompetent state allows its taxpayers to be scammed by far more hard-working people than work for it.

    And then socialist scum why people want less state and more private enterprise. What incentive is there for anyone working for the state to get value for taxpayers money?

  43. 43 says:

    It is the job of private companies to make money by any legal means necessary. A pity nobody working for the state thinks it is THEIR job to get value for taxpayers’ money.

  44. 44
    Giles (Farmer) says:

    Excuse me.

    I pay VED on my Range Rover.

  45. 45
    Pip Skweeq says:

    But surely everybody knows that if they spin fast enough they act as fans and thus cool the earth. What global warming?

  46. 46
    Keith AB says:

    Wind turbines are producing 25% of rated capacity right now and 5% of demand at 2.5 GW.

  47. 47
    keredybretsa says:

    Like most ‘Green Theories’ they sound great, read even better, but the reality is pooh!

  48. 48
    Simpering, hand-wringing, lefty, greeny farkwit says:

    Global change warm climate is a terrible thing and something must be done!

  49. 49
    Let's get the facts straight says:

    Guido, why not go and have a word with Sir Reggie, Camoron’s father in law. He is the beneficiary of tax payers money for his wind farm. £300,000 pa?

  50. 50
    Born In Paradise, Living now in Brixton says:

    Sadly at the moment the blasted whirling swastikas are actually generating cash.

    I hate the wind: Every time it blows that’s another charge on my electricity bill.

  51. 51
    TheIconvenenientTruth says:

    If that was a serious question, here is a serious answer

  52. 52
    TheIconvenenientTruth says:

    Not if we have replaced the windmills with nuclear power..

  53. 53
    TheIconvenenientTruth says:

    They didn’t install smaller generators. They simply turned down what they had.

  54. 54
    TheIconvenenientTruth says:

    but average only about 1GW, which is about what one nuclear power station does at one quarter the cost.

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