November 20th, 2012

Letter From Priti Patel to Margaret Hodge
Tory MP Says Tax Avoiding Firm Threat to Hodge’s Position 


181 Comments

  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    Tax is theft!

    Starve the beast!

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    • 17
      Anonymous says:

      What about once that will benefit from trust they or their parents set in offshore tax heaves?

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      • 25
        V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

        Another Labour multimillionaire avoiding tax while accusing others?

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        • 86

          Plus ça change (plus c’est la même chose).

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          • RageAgainstthePolitcalElite says:

            Surprise Surprise,, You would never have worked out that the Political Ponzi Scheme is coming to an end.. Corrupted to the core, failing to the end.. What now for the future of the Fraudster, Hypocritica,l Political Class,
            Wont be long to build a Bon FIRE

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          • RageAgainstthePolitcalElite says:

            Laffer Curve People.. The Wankers have made sure that they aren’t affected by it.

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          • Parallel Life says:

            Wimmins Union together it is, a suble set up to basically fuck us bloke up, I see it,

            Song for them both, to educate them about actual true thinking blokes, like me,

            and, ladies,

            and, ladies,

            I THINK SO, ladies, don’t deny your true inner feeling. In the army front line! Oh give me a rest, ladies.

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        • 131
          Another Labour Millionaire aviding tax whilst accusing others says:

          “Taxation needn’t be taxing “, We made that one up you know .

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      • 26
        Anonymous says:

        David Cameron’s family could have money tied up in offshore tax havens after it was revealed his father made a fortune through a network of offshore investment funds.

        Ian Cameron, whose wealth was once estimated at £10m, ran several, perfectly legal, offshore accounts in tax havens such as Panama City and Geneva.

        Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2133121/David-Cameron-family-fortune-offshore-tax-havens.html#ixzz2ClQz3wRc
        Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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        • 70
          Roundell says:

          Pritti nearly got selected for Westminster North and I have to say she would have wonthe seat – our loss is their gain

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        • 106
          Anonymous says:

          not the point. How did DC get brought into this. Its the rank hypocrisy that people cant stand. just happens that people on the right of the spectrum dont tend to exhibit do as I say, not as I do tendencies

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          • yeah, right... says:

            Er, didn’t our Prime Minister, on the back of the Jimmy Carr scandal (I say scandal, I mean well paid chap doing nothing illegal with his tax affairs) state on prime time tv that tax avoidance is immoral?

            I guess the point that 26 Anonymous is making is that someone who has enjoyed incredible privilege in education, housing, etc as a result of his father’s expertise in tax avoidance can be accused of hypocracy when he calls tax avoidance …er…immoral.

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        • 119
          Fidel from Cuba says:

          The sooner we string up people like this the better .

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      • 74
        Don't pay the fuckers they only go and waste it all away says:

        Nowt wrong investing off shore as long as it is done legally.

        Pointless paying taxes to the British government when all the do is fritter it away on paying chavettes to breed, Romanies benefits for their sprogs in Romanian Gypysy camps, EU CAP subs, the Indian space programme, MPs expenses, diversity schemes, Windmills, Judge lead inquisitions, pointless train lines, newts, Italian olive groves that do not exist and the BBC.

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      • 144
        Iz zis rite? says:

        Anon – 12.03:

        As pointed out in an earlier thread (for your attention), the word is ‘ones’ [not ‘once’]. Do try to learn a little from your co-conspirators.

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    • 24
      Reversed roles says:

      I take it pretty patel ain’t no Tory.

      So we havea Labour MP who is pro capitalism and the tax breaks it can use to flourish and a Conservative MP who is anti the tax regime that Capitalism can use.

      How times have changed.

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      • 59
        Archer Karcher says:

        Though it makes my skin crawl to support someone as revolting as Hodge. I have to say that minimising your tax exposure is completely correct. Anyone who pays more tax than they should, is an absolute cretin and should never be the director of any company.

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        • 82
          Anonymous says:

          The issue is level playing field. My local cafe cannot get a coffee tax deal Swiss or have special tax arrangement in Holland. What we need is the same tax rule for everyone.

          I don’t mind big business paying no cooperation tax as long as it is the same for everyone else. I am all for zero cooperation tax for all the business.

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          • Anonymous says:

            no! the issues is hypocrisy!!! How can she tell others that they should pay more tax after this She’s lost any credibility she had. What’s wrong with you people???

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        • 134
          yeah, right... says:

          Agreed. But then he/she also shouldn’t be a member of a government promoting policies which require an endless increase in the amount of tax being taken.

          As so often since this tax debate really took off, the people screaming most loudly for other people to pay more tax are those who take great care to esnure that they don’t pay any themselves. GMG, tax-avoider-in-chief Danny Alexander, senior HMRC officials etc etc

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      • 95
        Ex-Tory says:

        You don’t seem to understand politics. Hodge is a hypocritical socialist liar. Patel is trying to expose her. If only more Tory MPs got stuck into the corrupt, lying c*nts taht dominate the Labour Party.

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        • 105
          Archer Karcher says:

          Patel is going the wrong way around it though. Instead of jumping on the ‘fair share’ socialist bandwagon, she should be advocating lower taxes for all, reduced government spending and a level tax system ( flat tax for ALL ).

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          • Anonymous says:

            These are two separate issues. A low tax economy is not the issue, the issue is another hypocritical Labour politician lecturing companies about their behaviour whilst benefiting directly from the same self behaviour.

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    • 47
      Sir William W says:

      There is no such thing as ‘the right amount of tax’. Our tax system is a farrago of unfair, illogical and inconsistent rules, backed up by the full coercive power of the state. There is no shred of democratic control over this system, no concept of limiting it nor any policy behind it except to extort ever-greater sums to cadge votes with. We tax the poor. We tax the essentials of life. We try to drag down anybody who has the cheek to make a success of themselves. Our tax system is a national disgrace.

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      • 88
        Anonymous says:

        Ireland has a very low cooperation tax. When it was in trouble we went and gave billions to Ireland rather than telling it to increase taxes to UK level before helping it.

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        • 112
          dumb, just fucking dumb says:

          yes, give them billions to undermine the potential for companies to relocate or invest in Northern Ireland and contribute to the UK tax take

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    • 94
      Former NOTW Journalist says:

      I was a very small phone hacker and I only did a tiny tiny tiny amount of phone hacking.

      So that makes it OK!

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      • 123
        Mirror journalist says:

        Me too.

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        • 153
          Pundit too too says:

          So Hodge is yet another in the very long list of Labour MP hypocrites.
          It will be interesting how she answers after speaking to her lawyers and other troughers – and I wonder if she is stupid enough to tweet?
          Nothing of this on BBC of course as it would be if she was conservative.
          Now Eddie Mair is repeating Cameron’s speech lauding Autonomy some time ago, yet if he really cared to go into Super Gordon’s speeches he would find plenty of material. Thought not.

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    • 166
      i don't like you either says:

      just for once I wouldn’t mind hearing what those pair of buerks Balls and Milliband have got to say. One imagines they are slightly too busy as they are off chairing a sixth form poetry competition

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    • 179
      lojolondon says:

      Nice one, Priti – Liebour faces in the trough as always, and lying through their teeth as always!

      MH should stand down for misleading the inquiry and tax evasion!

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  2. 2
    Quiet Bat Person says:

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    • 18
      Spartacus says:

      Is this a tax avoidance scheme?

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      • 44
        Quiet Bat Person says:

        No, Israel’s measured response to Hamas. Just as well no innocent children live there, just Palestinian children.

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        • 53
          Hamas says:

          Please support our charity appeal “Rockets for Peace”.

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        • 54
          Ed Miliband says:

          So Hamas send 100 missiles a day into Israel, Israel sends 100 missiles back?

          That sounds pretty measured to me. Except, of course, unlike Israel’s missiles, Hamas’s missiles aren’t guided.

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          • Archer Karcher says:

            I think that’s called tough shit Ed.

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          • Quiet Bat Person says:

            Anyone who believes that Israeli missiles are pin-point precise is living in cloud cuckoo land. In every conflict, Palestinian casualties are far higher than Israeli ones.

            The recent Israeli tank incursion into Gaza was to provoke a response, so that Israel could ‘legitimately’ massacre more Palestinians.

            Now the US election is out of the way, Israel wants war, and will get it, and drag in who-knows-who else.

            Just don’t bank on being able to fill up your car with petrol without a mortgage soon.

            If there really was a God, who promised his ‘chosen people’ a land, he wouldn’t choose such an awful, virtually waterless patch of scrub.

            Or maybe God exists, and has a sense of humour.

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          • Got a new crayon says:

            Can’t they get their god to guide them?

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          • yeah, right... says:

            The Gazans might have better spent all that money from Iran on a missile defence system like Israel has, rather than some really crappy missiles.

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    • 84
      Pitchfork. says:

      Another arab realises too late that 72 virgins are goats, though more attractive than his wife and sister.

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    • 113
      god is good says:

      no-one shouted Allah Akhbar that time. Is that a first?

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    • 118
      The BBC employs a man called Jihad says:

      Well done to the IDF, proudly and expertly delivering hamas cowards down to the hot place since 1948. You can run and you can hide behind children and women but you cant escape the IDF. Will those hamas cowards start strapping babies to themselves now in order to save their miserable cowardly lives? Come out and fight like men instead of hiding like rats.

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  3. 3
    The BBC are cnuts says:

    Tax is for Tories.

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  4. 4

    Twist the screws Ms Patel. It is long past the time when the slippery Ms Hodge should be called to account for her actions.

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    • 12
      Selohesra says:

      good letter apart from fact that shareholders’ funds does not necessarily equate to fair value – historical cost accounting etc

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    • 77
      fruitcake says:

      Oooh a slippery Margaret Hodge…I’m getting moist

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    • 91
      A reasonable by angry man says:

      Margaret Hodge is a typical independently-wealthy, left-wing hypocrite. One of the select self-applauding bunch who believe that money should be taken from those they despise (those of modest means who are hard working and believe that state aid should only be distributed to extreme need; and who, incidentally, wouldn’t vote for Ms Hodge if she were the last corrupt politician on the planet) and given to those whome they adore (those who are ‘entitled’ and who, curiously, reliably vote for Ms Hodge in their droves). You are playing with fire here, Ms Hodge. Perhaps a re-reading of Tytler might help you understand just why: “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.”

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  5. 5
    Rob Wilson MP says:

    Am I trending?

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  6. 6
    Christine Kitchener of 5 Malivina Terrace Slough says:

    In the interests of transparency I think that all letters sent to Mps and by Mps should be made available to the public .

    Who in their right mind has a child and christens it ” Pretty ” I ask ?

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  7. 7
    Mike Hunt says:

    I wonder how this will be reported on the BBC news.

    Evil Tory questions Labour member’s integrity?

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    • 120
      Slimy Chuck-a-Butty says:

      Reported on the BBC, ha good one.

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    • 132
      Double Tap says:

      It won’t be – the BBC’s main job is not to inform it is to stop you from finding out what they don’t want you to know.

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      • 170
        English Justice Today says:

        Yes, my first thought was how did the Media accept her answers without checking before broadcasting them.
        You can only avoid UK tax if you lie, cheat or defraud. What these people are doing is overcharging for supplies. If a coffee bean costs a pound to import they say it is five pounds, or admin salaries of one million are five million or what ever sum is necessary to reduce the UK profit to nil to avoid paying tax.

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  8. 8
    Priti Patel says:

    Yes yes look over there, and don’t look at my travel expenses.

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  9. 9
    Lord Carrington's Binoculars says:

    Hodge is bullet proof.

    First she was an extreme local government lefty – Enver Hodge was her nickname.

    Second the Islington child abuse scandal – which she personally insisted was not real.

    Fourth – After it all came out, Blair made her Minister for CHILDREN.

    And now – her holdings in the family business, long known about.

    Still, proves the old adage. The more somebody goes on about something, the more likely that’s what they’re up to.

    See Ken Livingstone and paying full tax….

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    • 49
      Quiet Bat Person says:

      What happened to ‘Third’?

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      • 67
        Lord Carrington's Binoculars says:

        Good point.

        How about this disgrace?

        Following a media campaign [in 2003] conducted by several national newspapers calling for her to resign from her new post, she responded to Panton [one those who said he was abused in council care] by letter, in which she referred to him as ‘extremely disturbed’.

        Panton then passed the letter to the press which planned to publish it, only to be judicially restrained from doing so at the instruction of Hodge. The letter was eventually published, mainly on the grounds that the blocking of the letter was seen as disproportionate.

        Hodge was forced to publicly apologise and offered to contribute to a charity of Panton’s choosing as recompense

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      • 109
        Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

        That’s socialist education for you, though I’d bet my house that Hodge and her bairns were sent to private schools.

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  10. 10
    Fidel from Cuba says:

    As far as that Mrs Hodges is concerned she does not give a damn about Costa Rican coffee manufacturers as long as lots of lovely money is being paid to the Uk Treasury to go I know not where .

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  11. 11
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    What a hypocrit.

    Lady Hodge – socialist – should reflect on her position, & maybe come to the conclusion it is time to spend more time with her money.

    Lady Hodge is the very emboiment of why all politicans tax returns should be made available to the electorate.

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  12. 13
    Karl Marx says:

    A ‘socialist’ politician who holds twenty million quids-worth of unearned wealth in a private limited company that avoids tax?

    Say this ain’t so!

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    • 20
      The General Public says:

      There are few things more nauseating than a millionaire ‘socialist’.

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    • 40
      Tory Labour Spot the Difference says:

      A socialist?, not really. Most of the Labour front bench are millionaires. The House of Commons is only there to provide a bit of knock about comedy while the EU Commission plot the subjugation of the UK.
      Then Hodge and her cronies will be given plum jobs with juicy pensions as Eurocrats, with no accountability to us whatsoever.

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    • 175
      Prescott's chipolata says:

      And Chris Mullins, Labour MP, called her ‘stupid’ in his diary ‘Decline & Falll’. A worthwhile read by the way.

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  13. 14
    Go to 3:26 for the infamous moment Phillip got beaten up says:

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  14. 15
    Jimmy says:

    So she thinks the tax system is unfair and is complaining to Labour?

    Where do the tories find these people?

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  15. 16
    Over to Pesto says:

    Is tax payable calculated on turnover these days?

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    • 34
      Jimmy says:

      Apparently in toryworld it is.

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      yeah, right... says:

      Its the argument the outraged are using against Starbucks etc.

      They forget the old adage – Turnover is vanity, profit is sanity. (You could add Leona Helmsley’s little pearl – and tax is for little people)

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  16. 19
    Lady Hodge says:

    Dear Priti,
    £20million might be a large ammount to some, but….( you know the rest ).

    Yours etc.

    I am making this very public by posting it on order-order. Beat that!

    Your Lady Hodge

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  17. 21
    Michael Fucking Parkinson says:

    I’ve met 100s of interesting people

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  18. 22
    Labour spokesperson says:

    But you must know that for 13 years Labour turned Tax Avoidance into a private sport

    Just look at our Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson and all our non dom or non resident supporters like your friend Ronald Cohen…the list is too long to give here…

    Companies they are “advisers” to are registered in such goof places as Bermuda and Dublin (not to mention Monte Carlo and the Caymans)

    And their cash well hidden from public view

    (not to speak of all the tax breaks for “private equity” firms and hedge funds etc…)

    We have always all been in this together

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    • 23
      Call me Tone Blair says:

      I declare all my UK income in the UK

      But I have a problem separating my charity work from my private work

      And of course I have huge non-UK offshore earnings

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    • 60
      The World's gone Mad says:

      And now !! (say it isn’t true)
      Peter Mandelson,
      of the multiple scams and fiddles,
      is appointed Head of Ethical Banking at Lazard International.

      Jesus weeps.

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      • 78
        Lord Mandelspawn - Lizard International says:

        I am intensely relaxed in an ethical way with people getting filthy rich.

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      • 113
        P l e b says:

        Lizard International

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        • 156
          The savant7 says:

          Shape shifter transglobal

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        • 172
          Anonymous says:

          baddies always test the limits. best just to learn from them what our limitations are. and then work on them should that appeal. let’s not forget that we all thrive on drama,d-rama

          in that sense we are all alike.
          the biggest baddies are very clear headed. we need to be the same, life is for living. you decide on the quality.
          waste your tears on someone who is worth it.

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      • 164
        from the global HQ the prime mincer says:

        I’m the yardstick for labour ethics

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  19. 27
    Hodge is a rotten c-unt says:

    Margaret Hodge infamously smeared a child abuse victim, who had been abused whilst under the care of Labour-run Islington council where she was a councillor, as “unhinged”. Contrast this to Lord McAlpine who said he bears no ill feelings towards Steven Meesham and expressed sympathy for him for having had a terrible life while he’s been “very blessed”. No malice towards the victim, who wrongly named McAlpine because the BBC didn’t think to actually show him a photo. Hodge, on the other hand, called a victim unhinged because he embarrassed her and her Labour colleagues.

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  20. 28
    Lord Mandelspawn - Lizard International says:

    I am so relaxed about this, I have in fact just shit myself.

    Note to Self: Harvest better Sphincter muscles from some host.

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  21. 30
    Scamp The Excitable Dog says:

    “Trougskyites”
    The f**king place is swarming with them.

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  22. 31
    City solicitors says:

    As yoiu know, we used to employ the Labour front bencher Chuka Umanna in our firm

    We are also expert in dealing with tax

    http://www.herbertsmithfreehills.com/practice-areas/tax

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  23. 32
    Shane Worn says:

    She appears to have been undergoing treatment for the mange.

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  24. 36
    The Libor party says:

    It is a total coincidence that Madge Hodge sounds like tax dodge if you say it very quickly.

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  25. 37
    50 Calibre says:

    It just confirms the generally held view that most MPs are at it one way or another and that they rely on their fellow members to preserve them and their dodgy doings from the law. They just don’t get it.

    Come the revolution…

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    • 52
      albacore says:

      Ain’t they sick and tired yet of all this unrelieved sleaze?
      Low life you wouldn’t piss on living high as they please
      And reckoning on top is where they’ll always abide
      ‘Cos the electorate’s got even less brains than pride

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  26. 38
    Moussa Koussa Mark 2 says:

    This is a joke – right Borisideo Boriswkes

    Priti Patel…The Taxi and Hire Car Expenses Queen.

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    • 62
      Lady Hodge says:

      That’s right – attack the Tory effnic! Not me! Don’t look at me! I’m Labour! I’m beyond criticism!

      (You may suckle my socialist teet, now, Moussa. But please, don’t keep making the anti-Semitic remarks; Ed doesn’t like them. You know why..)

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  27. 39
    dunstall says:

    I wonder if her nephew Jon Cruddas is another shareholder? we should be told

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  28. 41
    Rob says:

    As she has dedicated her life to public service she should be exempt from tax.

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  29. 46
    ah! monika says:

    Her money is in a Hodge Fund. OK?

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  30. 48
    Maslow and his hierachy of needs says:

    It is a well known phenomenon that when sustenance (in this case troughing of some form or another) becomes harder to find, predatory animals (in this case Sharks) will in fact start to turn on each other, in an attempt to make the available sustenance (money) last longer for them.

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  31. 50
    Obi Wan Kenobi says:

    People – We need transparency
    BBC – You don’t need transparency. This is not the tax cheat you are looking for
    People – This is not the tax cheat we are looking for
    BBC – Lady Hodge can go about her business
    People – Lady Hodge can go about her business
    BBC – Move along
    People – Move along

    ‘The BBC can have a strong effect on the weak minded’

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  32. 51
    RED ED MILLIONAIREBAND says:

    The blank sheet of paper is still blank.

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  33. 55
    Moussa Koussa Mark 2 says:

    Priti Patel ( 100% neo con nutter ).

    Is she taking the mantle from Woeful Warsi

    Talking of Warsi….Has she been locked away !!!!

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    • 57
      SAS NOT!!! says:

      errrr, fuck off mong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      …………………………………

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    • 160
      The savant7 says:

      I think she may be cosying. up to. Nigel. Farage against the machine in the hope of becoming one of his many female ministerial. Handmaidens once that glorious day comes when he assumes the mantle of prime minister.

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  34. 56
    George Osborne says:

    Today nice Mr King will print another quarter of a million pounds for me to borrow. Aren’t we just cute enough to be kissed?

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    • 58
      George Osborne says:

      Oops sorry I meant BILLION – but I’m awful at maths!

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      • 136
        Screwed Taxpayer says:

        More like half a billion a day than a quarter.

        Approx ten pounds extra debt every day for each stupid pleb man, woman and child in the U.K.

        Appalling gross lack of elementary financial control by the thieving LabLibCon elite.

        Dave and Gideon — you stated that you would eliminate the deficit by 2015.

        YOU ARE FUCKING FAILURES

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    • 61
      Indian Dept of Lunar Call Centres says:

      Mr Cameron sir put put put, is there being any of that lovely lolly for us?

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      • 69
        Unelected President of Britain, Herman van Rompuy, says:

        Shut it, Dave’s heading over here on Thursday and he’s bringing the cash to me in person. It’s mine! All mine! Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaaa! I think I’ll spend it on something useful.. me!

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    • 63
      Joss Taskin says:

      Is that the Quantitive Easing plan which was concocted by Gordon the Moron and Ed Bollokov to ‘save the World’ from Libor’s near-destruction of the UK economy ?

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    • 66
      The World's gone Mad says:

      Billion – Million it’s all the same to a central banker.

      Anyhow I didn’t borrow it, I splurged on an Ethical Investments recommended by my good friend Lord Mandelson, Head of Ethical Banking at Lazard’s

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      • 173
        Anonymous says:

        has the world gone .mad

        many possible worlds exist. create your own.

        be fearful, anxious and austere
        or be free, relaxed and joyful.

        but how

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  35. 64
    Multiculturalist says:

    Patel v Oppenhiem, interesting.

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  36. 71
    FTSE 100 CFO in la'la land says:

    I would like to please pay a lot of tax, I do not wish to use any of the legal means to pay less. My shareholders will be so happy.

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  37. 75
    Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr, J., US Supreme Court says:

    Taxes are the pr!ce we pay for a civilized society, I was wont to say. On the other hand, is there anyone who DOESN’T try to get the best pr!ce they can, in any bargain?

    Don’t confuse “legal/lawful” with “moral/ethical,” whatever you do. It never quite coincides.

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    • 79
      Quiet Bat Person says:

      I paid for a civilised society. So I think I deserve my money back.

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    • 98
      Taxation is only civilized if spent wisely. says:

      What’s civilized about taxing a British Citizen to fund the Indian nuclear arms industry or to financialy encourage girls of poor backgrounds from the age of 16 to go forth and procreate as many Bastard Children as they can while of breeding age?

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  38. 80
    steve smith says:

    When is spineless Dave going to expose liebours hordes of millionaires to counter the oft repeated cabinet of millionaires jibe . The man is a tosser get someone with balls ( shame Maggies gone gaga or that “tarzan” is too old )

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  39. 81
    HoC Anon says:

    Why is it, you plebs just don’t understand & take on board, that some

    are more equal than others………

    so get on with it, nothing is going to change, we have the sacred

    divine right given to us from on high………..

    So just cough up all the taxes we inflict or else. !!!!….

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  40. 89
    Another of Dave's all women short list failures says:

    Pretty Patel like Warsi is proof that the asians have got it right with making their women walk ten steps behind the men.

    Has no one explined to her that the culture in Britain is for a Tory MP to encourage business to grow and prosper by taking addvantage of the tax regime and it i the role of a Labour MP to stifle business by taxing it until the pips squeek?

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    • 92
      Duty Pedant says:

      So many, so many …

      explined !!

      addvantage !!

      squeek !!

      I ignored the orphaned i as I am sure it was a typo.

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    • 129
      The Full Picture says:

      Actually for the complete picture , what you should have said was

      ‘it is the role of a Labour MP to stifle business by taxing it until the pips squeek….. whilst taking full advantage of the tax regime themselves !’

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    • 146
      Pop goes the weasel says:

      H’ackcherly, these days Asian men make their women walk ten paces in front of their men (in case of landmines).

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  41. 96
    Taxfodder says:

    The whole thing is a load of cobblers…nobody pays any more tax than they have to unless they are ignorant or complete and utter idiots.

    The fault is with the over complicated tax laws that allow tax avoidance and inturn hope with smoke and mirrors to profit from the ignorance and confusion they cause.

    Perhaps our crap coalition so called government should get off its arse and change the law if it wants more tax pounds from business…..rather than whining on about a situation that is in their gift to change!

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    • 126
      Toontoon says:

      Why are you making this is a party political issue ??
      Tax avoidance has been alive and well since records began ?!!!
      What grips my sh. It is that these champagne socialists open their mouths and spu such hypocritical BS and the sheep still follow and vote for them despite the fact they despise the very ground these socialist millionaires walk on.
      This country is morally bust !!
      Whatever you can get away with is acceptable, politicians are probably some of the most morally corrupt and hypocritical group of people in his country FACT !!

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        Some of the most morally corrupt and hypocritical group of people in the Country says:

        Oi dont tar us with their brush !

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      • 130
        Taxfodder says:

        You forgot to mention the Queen, the War, Poofs and Layabouts….

        You are Alf Garnet and I claim my £5.00.

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    Larry the Lamb says:

    Thought I’d check the BBC to see how it is handling this.

    To my utter amazement not a word but Stemcor does get a mention.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13766974

    You couldn’t make it up.

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  43. 100
    Abu Qatada says:

    This human rights law is sometimes great for people like me but even I would not do this

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2235636/Chris-Moyles-tries-use-human-rights-laws-aggressive-tax-avoidance-deal-secret.html

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  44. 102
    Silly BareCow says:

    My name is Sally and I admit I have a problem.

    (Sent from my iPad. I can’t help myself!… You’ve got to help me…please, please turn off the Internet before I say something libellous again…like Mike Aspel and Peter Purvis were..)

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  45. 104
    I was Mandy's gerbil says:

    Eeeeeeek

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  46. 115
    keredybretsa says:

    More like Lady Dodge innit, know wharimean. But m’Ladys definition of a tiny, teeny weeny shareholding is a bit of a bad joke!

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  47. 116
    DrJazz says:

    Priti Patel ought to learn how to read accounts and not confuse two companies.

    Stemcore Holdings Ltd is a trading company. It buys and sells steel and the raw materials for making steel. It made a gross profit of £243m on £6.2bn of sales and paid £27m in tax – 11.1% of gross profit, or 41.5% of the pre-tax profit of £65m.

    Stemcor UK Limited paid £473,000 tax on a £25m Gross Profit and a £913K pre-tax profit.

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      Loopy Lou says:

      Tories cannot do their sums without making mistakes .

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      Big Momma says:

      Ho Ho Ho.
      Stemcor Holdings according to Worksmart website from the TUC paid £163,000 on £2.1 billion turnover.
      Even Hodge’s own side the TUC website above mentions her name as being a major shareholder.
      Your two companies are not Stemcor Holdings – Dr Jazz and all that Liebor jazz.

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    The BBC employs a man called Jihad says:

    And the BBC are all over it like a rash, its the next big political scandal or not. Imagine the scene in the news room when the news comes in, the editors heart races madly as he thinks of all the labour politicians he can invite to decry the latest example of Tory greed, hours of fun for any beeboid.

    Yet another multimillionaire TORY politician in the frame for being a tax crook? Asks the editor of his flunky only to be told by the flunky that the crook is a high ranking labour toff. As the editors hopes and joy collapses like a hamas building the anguish in his voice palpable, what you mean she labour(his name is Abdul)? asks the BBC editor. Shall we run the story ask the flunky only to be met with a look that could melt stone. No, we dont attack labour politicians, its goes against everything the BBC stands for, lets ignore it and try and find some/any Tory to smear.

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  49. 124
    PC Dixon says:

    Oh that’s all right then !

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  50. 127
    Red x is mandatory says:

    Good call the hypocritical grandstanding cow to account before she chases big business out the country and with it peoples jobs !

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  51. 141
    Young Mr Grace says:

    You’ve all done very well.

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  52. 149
    Steve P says:

    Is Stemcor a Hodge fund?

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  53. 152
    green ink says:

    the session under discussion was a disgrace to watch..the rights and wrongs of international companies reducing their taxes legitimately is a well worn bone of contention but the manner in which she made the broad brush quite arbitrary remarks and many others made the committee sound like a badly produced tv show with a singularly undistinguished anchor. The power of the parliamntary select committee is it’s ability to question probe and establish truth in an uncontentious forum not make a ‘tabloidesque’ spectacle of the event

    The questions raised again about her own interests remain.

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    Mystic Meg says:

    I foresee the defence will be that whatever tax arrangements this company employs it will be completely under the rules of the tax system.
    And futhemore 20 mill might seem like a fat raspberry to you but to Hodge it is a tiny teeny hardly worth bothering with trifle!

    It is the same as the MP’s expense pig troughing…everyone apparently abided by the rules of the parliamentary watchdogs that is why they got away with it for years.
    A few had extra expenses like duck ponds and the odd house deal…but mostly it complied with what was allowed.

    One wonders if that is indeed the case…why the fecking heck do they not change the ‘rules’ …they are absolutely abhorrent, furthermore if MP’s want to improve their standing then that is where to begin repeal tax laws rewrite them and do the same for parliament…tightening the rules up is a bit like slamming the barn door after the gaff has burnt down!…but of course they won’t because they would rather have the dosh then be thought of as having integrity.

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      Big Momma says:

      Their integrity and public respect has gone out the window.
      Which is why they have a death grip on the dosh.

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    NoNonsense77 says:

    This is all complete nonsense. The press and now Mrs Patel have either deliberately ignored the facts or are too stupid to understand them. Or more likely they don’t care about the facts as they know they can cause trouble and accusations tend to stick however groundless.

    The company have clearly stated that they pay all the tax they are due around the world. Tax is never paid on ‘turnover’ it is paid on profit – within the country where it is earned. In 2011 they made a loss on their UK businesses. The group profits were all made outside the UK and taxes were paid in the countries concerned. In other years they have paid a fairly hefty amount of tax to the treasury.

    No one would be interested in this firm if it wasn’t for Mrs Hodge’s connection.

    Transfer pricing is a legitimate part of any international group. It may be abused by some but is not necessarily the case for this firm.

    You can see the annual, audited accounts for yourself via the company’s website. Or you can choose to ignore facts and just follow the hype.

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The lefties are attacking because the panellist is a millionaire and lives in a London home worth upwards of two million. Someone had best tell them he’s called Ed Miliband.


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