November 19th, 2012

Oh Deer, Oh Deer, Oh Deer

Faux outrage all round this morning following Tory MP Glyn Davies’ tongue-in-cheek tweet about shooting a stag in his garden:

Leading the lefty indignation is, somewhat predictably, the 12 bores over at the League Against Cruel Sports, chaired by one John Cooper QC. And just who is John Cooper QC? The very man who nobly defended the tweeter’s right to tell jokes in the infamous twitter joke trial. Staggering hypocrisy…


  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”

  2. 2
    Sally B says:

    For a start one does dot use a shot gun to shoot a stag. One uses a rifle.

  3. 3
    PhilP says:

    Is Cooper suggesting that Davies should be prosecuted then? That would indeed be hypocritical. Otherwise …

  4. 4
    Hamish Macbeth says:

    Crikey – shooting a stag how wrong …

    We all know Venison is grown on shelves in Morrisons

  5. 5
    Steve Miliband says:

    Stuck in a rut

  6. 6
    At last says:

    We finally know Millitwats position on the EUSSR. He will not take us out under any circumstances. All the Tories have to do know is get rid of call me Dave, and it’s job done, isn’t it?

  7. 7
    Snaplegs says:

    Left Wing Thought Police – ready at the drip of hat to engage and vilify what most people refer to as banter. Not really surprised.

  8. 8
    No Joke says:

    I wish there was some toilet paper in my cubicle, I hope there is a spare pare of socks in the car

    from my iphone@strensham services

  9. 9
    Norfolk's Finest says:

    Well, it certainly doesn’t help put to bed the ‘toff’ controversy. They sometimes don’t help themselves do they?

  10. 10
    observer says:

    FFS Glyn Davies is taking the piss.

    BTW he has a bigger trophy than the stag that got away – Lembit Opik who he defeated at the last election.

    Glyn is a top man.

  11. 11
    Daylight says:

    B1lbo, when was the last time you saw the outside world?

  12. 12
    IDF says:

    We prefer to use white phosphorous on them.

  13. 13
    Hamish Macbeth says:

    Lawyers ….

    They say it is not hypocritical …. “doing the best by their client” is the usual mantra

  14. 14
    MickC says:

    And they’re out of season!

  15. 15
    Hunter Welly Boot says:

    Very rare to see s toff deer stalking. It’s usually plebs and poachers who get up to that kind of mallarky.

  16. 16
    Fact checker says:

    Perhaps he wasn’t referring to shooting the stag, rather the wet family members. Look at the evidence before you, QC, before making assumptions. What is what is wrong with the judiciary these days?

  17. 17
    Nigel S says:


  18. 18
    Roscoe Rules says:

    You know whenever I walk past a group of baseball capped motherfuckers I often say to my missus ‘I wish I had a 12 bore handy’.
    But suggesting shooting a beautiful Stag Glyn Davies,you have gone too far.

  19. 19
    InOutplease says:

    You don’t shoot deer with a 12 bore, you need a rifle. It must have been an attempt at a gag but feel would a 12 bore

  20. 20
    Groucho Marx says:

    Show me a rose, and I’ll show you a stag at bay.
    Show me a rose, or leave me alone.

  21. 21
    Angry bird says:

    Talking of toffs, I see His Lordship’s having a shake of the ITV money tree.

    Greedy bastard

  22. 22
    Roscoe Rules says:

    A solid slug from a 12 bore would probably flop a stag I reckon.

  23. 23
    Frankie Boyle says:

    Blimey, that’s close to the edge.

  24. 24
    Shillings & Pence says:

    Are you impugning the lineage of our client?

  25. 25
    Cuthbert Gaddabout says:

    Guido – What makes you think only the left hate killing animals for fun?

    Making assumptions there mate –

    I don’ think anyone would ever accuse me of being a lefty – but I loathe the hunting, shotting fishing Tories with a passion.

    Partly because they get off on cruelty………. what sort of tosser gets off killing a sentient creature for fun? Mostly ones with a small dick.

    And partly because they come from that smug Cameron type Tory who thinks they were born to rule and that any ‘pleb’ that tries to succeed doesnt know their place.

    You wanna join the 21st century mate and catch up with the fact you cant put people into little boxes of left and right – Thats what Guardian reading types do.

  26. 26
    Ed Balls says:

    That’s nothing I love kicking dogs.

  27. 27
    Angry bird says:

    I didn’t say which lord

  28. 28
    Bashar Al-Assad says:

    Cluster bombs do a better job.

  29. 29
    Angry bird says:

    Cameron’s big idea for today. Cut red tape.

    Hasn’t he already done that one two years ago?

  30. 30
    Jigsaw Libel says:

    You don’t need to, mentioning ITV sealed your fate son.

  31. 31
    Robert Edwards says:

    Anyone who would even contemplate shooting a Deer with a 12-bore should not even be permitted to own one. You need, at minimum, a .275″


  32. 32
    Fact checker says:

    Do you also hate the hunting, shooting, fishing Labourites as well?

  33. 33
    ÁC1 says:

    Since it would go through a car engine block it would make a mess of the bits it hit.

  34. 34
    Nan Taylor says:

    Yup. It can. Need to be close, though. No further than 100 feet. I’m boring you now, aren’t I?

  35. 35
    Anonymous says:

    Wrong. Both red stags & hinds are in season.

  36. 36
    Anonymous says:

    Oh, very good!

  37. 37
    Fact checker says:

    I think he should be lauded by the tree huggers. Like the majority I expect he is an omnivore so all he would be doing is obtainig his meat with 0% carbon footprint. Round of applause for the man is in order.

  38. 38
    ÁC1 says:

    Please ask the dentist to remove your canine teeth, you’re not fit to eat any non-vegetables.

  39. 39
    Anonymous says:

    faux, faux, if you want to,
    the truth is not for turning,
    rather it is staggering (up) after its long slumber.

  40. 40
    ithankyou says:

    I can’t afford venison as it’s a little deer

  41. 41
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    One sound effect you never want to have as a ringtone, if you work anywhere around Westminster– they might take it personal:

    (*click click*) BAM! That’s the sound solution to a lot of problems, I reckon!

  42. 42
    The Golem says:

    They seem to be firmly on-message.

  43. 43

    Solid rifled slugs – would do the job nicely. Don’t *think* they’re legal without an FAC – anyone know?

  44. 44
    Col Nut says:

    You must be double jointed.

  45. 45
    Col Nut says:

    Enjoying killing animals is what separates us from animals.

  46. 46
    Col Nut says:

    He’s trying to fawn affection.

  47. 47
    Number 7 says:

    Minimum calibre .240 centrefire High Velocity.

    In practise this means .243 ( 6mm )

  48. 48
    BBC Watch says:

    Media outrage is always selective. Note the BBC story on Helen Grant MP and Minister.

    Usual expenses stuff, but any clue which party she belongs to?

  49. 49
    Jimmy says:

    An inveterate self publicist. Pay no heed. One of our PPCs back in the day I’m embarrassed to admit.

  50. 50
    Number 7 says:


  51. 51
    Col Nut says:

    You mean the one with red hair?

  52. 52
    A Poacher says:

    Venison? Morrisons!

    Only for cash squire.

  53. 53
    Anonymous says:

    i am not a number.

  54. 54
    Anonymous says:

    lawyers let not foget.
    are officers.

  55. 55
    Anonymous says:

    Any cartridge containing fewer than five shot is classed as Section 1 and require a FAC. If in doubt, check with BASC.

  56. 56
    Roger The lodger says:

    Would Cooper take it as a threat to kill if one quoted a line of Shakespeare to him?

  57. 57
    647 too many says:

    The “Just keep stuffing the public cash into my pockets and stop asking questions about private matters” party.

    It is almost impossible to tell which party affiliation politicians claim solely from the depth to which they trough.

  58. 58
    Anonymous says:

    Nope, you’re clearly an expert and you’ve got my complete attention …. is that the doorbell?, must go.

  59. 59
    Fenrir (@Fenrir1) says:

    I enjoy hunting because I enjoy eating. Venison is a particularly lovely meat as is pheasant, wild boar, duck and so on.

  60. 60
    Anonymous says:

    now that is the phrase which is emerging. it is said that the abusers tell the abused. it was all a dream. do not trust anyone, not even yourself.
    trust me,
    I am your fixer, in any case dear, do you have any other choice.

    never forget IBM’s foundation.
    The fear uncertainty doubt principle.m
    and that led to no won failed for buying IBM.

  61. 61
    Sky ferry says:

    So what? Are they on duty 24/7/365?

  62. 62
    Roger The lodger says:

    Or containing shot of Diameter greater than .36″

  63. 63
    The Real Finest says:

    Norfolk’s Finest is an oxymoron if ever I’ve heard one. Are you one of those Plods who waddles about Norwich weighed down in your “anti-stab” armour but with a bald, bare head instead of a helmet?

  64. 64
    Sky ferry says:

    Apart from everything, you mean?

  65. 65
    Sky ferry says:

    Is today the day for the Avon lady?

  66. 66
    geddit says:

    What an arselicker Guido is. When he’s not sucking up to Israelis, he’s sucking up to toffs.

  67. 67
    Lord Jensen Interceptor says:

    Maybe he just wanted to commit suicide.

  68. 68
    Disco Biscuit says:

    Glyn Davies, as a lawmaker, should know it is illegal to shoot a deer with a shotgun save in very narrow circumstances (for instance if you’ve just been in a collision with it and need to put it out of its misery).
    A rifle with a minumum calibre of .240 and minimum muzzle energy of 1,700 foot pounds is the legal requirement.

  69. 69
    MickC says:

    Oops-was thinking about Scotland

  70. 70
    A Pedant says:

    Exactly. Shooting a stag with a shotgun would lead to prosecution under animal cruelty legislation.

    Should use .303 or .308.

  71. 71
    Anonymous says:

    He is this weeks winner of the “Harman PIE prize” for Hypocrisy.

  72. 72
    Michael Caine says:

    I prefer a machine gun when I’m out bagging tigers , each to their own .

  73. 73
    A more pedantic Pedant says:

    .303 / .308 ??? – would do far too much damage to the beast at a range within the confines of a garden.

    .243 is plenty.

  74. 74
    genghiz the kahn says:

    He goes on to admit that he hasn’t shot any deer for 40 years.

    Use Twitter to shut down discussion, close down dissent, bully those whose ideas you dislike.

  75. 75
    Michael Caine says:

    But you do if if you buy into left wing bullshit

  76. 76
    Abu hava Qatada says:

    I’m a very naughty boy

  77. 77
    Informed Giant says:

  78. 78
    Perse O'Nally says:

    You are an absolute dickhead. No one shoots animals for fun…unless you’re some kind of chav. They’re shot to be eaten. Moron!

  79. 79
    smoggie says:

    In hind sight I bet he wished…

    I’ll get me coat

  80. 80
    Andew Mitchell says:

    Only a pleb would shoot a stage with a 12-bore.

  81. 81
    Nimrod says:

    Surely a 6.5mm rifle rather than a shotty.

  82. 82
    FarmerGiles says:

    don’t use a 12 bore let the leauge do it for you.

  83. 83
    Pedantic Lawyer says:

    Cooper is not a member of the judiciary. He might even regard it as unamusingly defamatory to be accused of being so obviously a member of the establishment.

  84. 84
    Glyn Davies MP says:

    I was feeling hungry. After all, the b*stard had eaten all the shrubs and there was nothing else in the larder. And the family was starving …

  85. 85

    Is this a trick question?

  86. 86
    Norfolk's Finest says:

    Where did you get the erroneous idea that I’m a Plod?!

  87. 87
    Bilbao Bill says:

    Yep. I know plenty of working class fishermen, wildfowlers, game shooters, ferret men, deer stalkers, fox shooters and bunny slotters and not one a Tory

  88. 88
    Adolf Hitler says:

    I prefer a Panzershrek as it leaves the beast in manageable pieces for the barbeque. Fuck off John Cooper QC you leftie piece of shite. Much love. Adolf

  89. 89
    merv says:

    He didn’t defeat Lembit, Lembit defeated Lembit. The Tories could have put up a donkey and would still have won. Montgomeryshire voters were really fed up with the self-publicizing pillock. Most of Glyn’s votes were protest votes – he won’t hold the seat at the next election – unless the LDs are stupid enough to let Lembit stand again.

  90. 90
    Jock-Strapped says:

    Red deer stags are most definitely not in season at present – unless marauding…

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