November 16th, 2012

Apathy All Round: The Stats So Far

The people have spoken, and the undoubted winner of last night’s by-elections and PCC plebiscites is the increasingly anti-politics Guidoisation of the British public. Here are the key stats so far:

  • Ed’s former deputy chief of staff Lucy Powell took Manchester Central with a turnout of 18.2%, the lowest turnout in a by-election since the Second World War.
  • The Tories lost their deposit, and only beat UKIP by five votes.
  • Almost 75% chose not to vote as Labour held Cardiff South.
  • Tory Angus MacPherson won the Wiltshire PCC election on a turnout of 15.8%.
  • Turnout in Coventry for the West Midlands PCC election was 10.9%.
  • Some polling stations have reported turnout as low as 3%.

Meanwhile UKIP’s odds in Corby have come in from 120/1 to 6/1 and Prezza is under pressure…


230 Comments

  1. 1
    None of the above says:

    Shows that my moniker is correct

    • 3
      Anonymous says:

      A bit of apathy would do the country good, too many interfering arseholes.

      • 7
        BBC says:

        Did you say interfering with arseholes?

      • 14
        Argur Sixpence says:

        Trouble is the elections still count and the self serving bastards carry on as before.
        Get the tumbils rolling….

        • 72
          The public says:

          Let’s make them redundant, which is what they are.

        • 97
          misterneddy says:

          Well, if all those who did not vote decided to confine the tories, labour and lib-dems to the history books, all they would have to do is turn up to vote for an independent and all three big parties would be totally finished.

          When all three combined, can only get 20% of the electorate, then the other 80% should be able to finish of those old 20th century parties in one fell swoop at the next general election.

          • Disgusted of Wormwood Scrubs says:

            Yesterday I tried to find out who were the candidates in my region, but the one major website was down due to heavy traffic.
            Eventually I found there were 7 candidates, four from parties and the others independent but of 3 cultures, white middle aged woman, afro-caribbean man, and asian man.
            Went to the polls and absolutely no information on the candidates.
            Registration system had a first and a second choice, but the polling staff did not know how it worked.
            A woman voter offered me the information from the centrefold of a local newspaper, but luckily I had found a website that gave the candidates their own personal messages.
            None of the candidates were ideal, so I chose the only independent woman as at least she had been in the real world of industry and policing.
            This must be the worst UK national voting operation in living memory, if not for ever. Third world Pakistan do it better.

          • sarah says:

            Quite agree. What’s the matter with people. I dont understand this reluctance to vote for anything other than the usual 3. Surely an overwhelming vote for independents would have been a bigger kick in the balls to the whole miserable lot of them than abstaining.

      • 19
        Labour voting lazy arsed hoon says:

        I was gunna post that but I CBA

      • 122
        Anonymous says:

        after apathy comes grief.

      • 226
        Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

        I cannot for the life of me understand this political apathy, when there are MP’s of my quality representing their constituents, baffling. Boaz.

    • 21
      Anonymous says:

      Looking at the results, will there be any LD MP(s) are next general election?

    • 32
      Slimy Chuck-a-Butty says:

      Your moniker is illegal

    • 84
      Another Engineer says:

      I think Andrew Neil hit on one of the reasons last night.

      There was no election in London. Therefore none of the national media were interested.

      I agree that this shouldn’t really be party political. The police are, however, already politicised, and at least this makes it explicit rather than being hidden by appointment.

  2. 2
    Polling station? How twentieth century says:

    My vote wouldn’t have shown up in a polling station count as I had a postal vote (which I used. I voted independent).

    • 71
      The 65 residents of a one bedroom flat, in a Labour 'core voter' area says:

      We agree.

      • 189
        Living in 98 percent white Merseyside (with a view towards 99% white N. Wales) says:

        Where? I don’t think you mean Liverpool or Birkenhead.

  3. 4
    Kebab Time says:

    Stop voting!!! you only encourage them! (politicians)

  4. 5
    Common Purpose says:

    As it is written

  5. 8
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    I wonder what percentage was postal votes?

    • 11
      Mustaffa Election Win says:

      I posted all of my family’s 2500 votes in Central Manchester. Amazing how roomy a one-bed council flat can be.

  6. 9
    The only way is arse-sex says:






  7. 10
    Pansy Potter says:

    Who were those five idiot voters.

  8. 12
    Tower Hamlets postal votes says:

    Just wait if you think the electorate is disenfranchised.

  9. 15
    John of Hull says:

    I’m apa … athap ….. pathapet . . . thap … HUNGRY!

  10. 16
    The times they are a changing says:

    So yesterdays voting was an outstanding success, so we will be told, hope they are crossing their fingers when they lie their fkin heads off to us, LibLabCon the one party to believe in, NOT.

  11. 17
    Tom Tomos says:

    BBC reporting that one polling station in Newport had no votes cast at all.

  12. 20
    The Prophet says:

    I’ve met Michael Fucking Parkinson

  13. 24
    Abu hava Qatada says:

    Just sat watching all the Downton Abbeys I missed during my recent stay at your Monarch’s pleasure.

    • 29
      Chris Bryant MP says:

      What did you think of them?

      I just love the period feel

      • 36
        Abu Qatada says:

        Although they were OK, I much preferred the movie 10,000 BC as it just felt like better times.

        • 43
          Chris Bryant MP says:

          My favourite film is “My Beautiful Laundrette”

          Or is it “Bare Arse Mountain”….

          I forget

          • Mark Oaten says:

            I think my favourite was that musical by Pete Townsend… What was it now… Oh yes ‘coprophelia’. Eaton was splendid in those shoes.

      • 39
        Abu hava Qatada says:

        I think your country was quite quaint back then. Do notice however, there aren’t many Muslims in the show and I shall be writing to Diane Abbott to complain about the unfairness and inequality in the programme.

        The frocks were nice though, and the beards and sideburns oooooo.

        • 49
          Anjem Chowdry says:

          Abu mate, glad you have watched it as I missed it.
          Here is a question for you, as it was just before the war so therefore poppies didn’t exist, what did they burn to keep warm?

        • 51
          Chris Bryant MP says:

          No Africans or rap singers either. So typical of life under the Tories.

          I’m going to make a statement in the House and call David Cameron a liar again.

  14. 27
    Ex-Tory says:

    When prisoners get the vote, they will probably get to choose their own Police Commissioner at this rate.

    Another f**king disaster for Dave.

  15. 28
    Papadop says:

    Yes, another staggering success for desperate Dave.

    Bring the boys home from Affie like Pantsdown says and redeploy them to make a military coup.

  16. 30
    Steve Miliband says:

    If Prescott loses it will be £100m well spent

    • 121
      Here's Wishing Humberside A Merry Christmas says:

      Here comes Fatty with his sack o’ shit…

      • 202
        Pauline, John's wronged glamorous wifie. says:

        My John will win as it is our Labour heartland.
        We will be feeding on pork pies and fish and chips at public expense for the next 3 years – we are magnificent royalty and the police will obey our every whim.

  17. 31
    Newport News says:

    There are reports that one polling station in Newport reutrned an empty ballot box because nobody had voted!

  18. 33
    Oops says:

    1054: Wayne David Labour MP for Caerphilly

    tweets: In Caerphilly there were 2.5% of votes spoilt. Many people were deliberately spoiling their ballot paper. This election has been shambolic.

  19. 34

    No Monster Raving Loony Party at Corby.

    Good wishes for a return to good health for Lord Toby Jug’s family.

  20. 37
    himindoors says:

    I know (well at least I think I do) the idea of the “Big Society” was the basic premise to have a smaller state, and a bigger society. How does putting more layers of political influence/interference into state institutions fit in with this, exactly?

    • 150
      Bit.ly says:

      Big Society was a cynical pile of shit invented by the vacuous Cameron, and it got what it deserved.

      • 173
        Frank's son says:

        Big Society is a concept which expects people to volunteer their time and services for free. Failed politicians not included. Hence the need for an extra layer of expensive (read troughing) public funded, high ranking busy bodies..

    • 164
      Fabian socialist 'Call Me Dave' Cameron says:

      ‘The Big Society’ = ‘The Great Society’. Google it.

    • 208
      Anonymous says:

      when the global looters leave us empty handed then we are going to grieve.
      big society or small society.
      we will need each other,

  21. 42
    BeeBoid says:
  22. 44
    Teresa May says:

    I have considered my position and have decided to set up a committee.

  23. 52
    Give this voter a medal says:
  24. 53
    I don't nee d no doctor says:

    Strange that the BBC haven’t mentioned the low turnout for Manchester Central. Now why would that be?
    Susanne Reid on BBC Breakfast was so anti tory this morning. She was talking to Damian Green about the conservative win in Wiltshire. She threw one arm up and said “a conservative won” in a derogatory tone. The BBC lefties just can’t help themselves. I think she is missing her cushy London lifestyle.
    Susanne, just think yourself lucky you have such a high paid job, it’s not hard reading auto-que for a living you know.

    • 57
      Auto Cutey says:

      You are so right, and Salford is such a shitty place

    • 67
      Susanna says:

      But you try waking up in fucking Salford every weekday morning. Roll on the weekend and London.

      • 102
        Yeahbut says:

        Do you think the beeboids

        (a) live in Salford
        (b) live in Alderley Edge and get to claim a taxi fare into work every day

        • 125
          Sian Williams says:

          No, they still live in London and claim for airfare. Only fair.

          Wish I’d not been such a snob and left brekkie, I do so much miss my humorous moments with Bill on the sofa.

          • Susanna says:

            You don’t think I wake up on the early morning flight up to Salford do you?

            How ghastly that would be – being awake on a plane to Manchester with common people!

    • 161
      Duty pedant says:

      It’s Susanna and it’s autocue.

      • 205
        John Bellingham says:

        Funnily enough, I was watching her today and thought that she must need specs. She had an awful time trying to read her lines and fluffed a few times.
        (Don’t, please post about her skills at fluffing)

    • 187
      morning glory says:

      I was too busy trying to get a glimpse of her snatch that I never heard a word she said

  25. 56
    The Great Helmsman Xi Jinping says:

    When the people no longer vote in a democracy,

    It is time to wind up democracy with one million elastic bands

    As you do Mr Gouido….

    • 62
      The Great Helmsman Xi Jinping says:

      I might add, when the State broadcaster only lies and defames,

      It is time to wind up the state broadcaster with…(you know the rest)…

      Tannnk you for your attention

      I must now get on with taking over the Western world…

    • 101
      The public says:

      The key phrase there is ‘in a democracy’.

    • 167
      young male lamb says:

      We don’t like elastic bands.

  26. 58
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I don’t vote for bellends.

    That isn;t the same as apathy

  27. 63
    Synic says:

    Dave — got a rocket left over from 5th. Nov.? — then stick it up your arse and light the blue touchpaper — and feck off into the black hole with Brown.

    Approx. 85% of the electorate are totally pissed off with you and all your corrupt Westminster associates.

  28. 70
    None of the Above says:

    Did we win?

  29. 75
    Synic says:

    What proportion of the votes cast were deliberately spoiled ballot papers? Mine included.

  30. 80
    Sally B says:

    Weekend central London rooms to let. Not suitable for those who are sensitive to Bongs

  31. 84
    Editor of the Tatler says:

    So we have another chic lite

    Ex bag-carrier for Empty Ed?

    She must be quite an addition to our national debate…

    • 181
      Chimping Keith says:

      2 labour MPs resigned, so they could stand in the PCC election.
      Whats the total cost of these two by-elections?
      Send the fucking bill to fucking Wallace and his party of fucking monging Hunhes.

  32. 89
    Jimmy says:

    Cost of PPC elections: 100m quid

    Another omnishambles: Priceless.

    Surely even you lot don’t want another two and a half years of this.

  33. 93
    Quisling Dave says:

    YEEEESSSSSSSS

    1116:

    At the Corby by-election count, BBC political correspondent Robin Brant says early stacks show Labour leading the Tories by more than two to one.

  34. 94
    Editor of Twinky News says:

    Let us have a vote on q u e e r marriages

    We are quite sure 1% of the population will vote (us)

  35. 96
    Sally of the alley says:

    ” Post is late this morning dear”

  36. 97
    John Ward says:

    All 88% of the Silent Majority have spoken wih one slent voice. They will not be heard.
    If only PCCs stood for paedophile-catching coppers.
    Everyone forgets now that McScalpine has got his BBC bonus that no perpetrators to do with North Wales have been apprehended, as such.
    Joni the Grand McAlpine Tweetathon to dislodge the £185,000 from his Lordship’s untainted hands and donate it to Children in Need..
    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/lord-mcalpine-time-for-a-generous-gesture/

  37. 104
    Sir William W says:

    If the turnout at a parliamentary election is less than 30% they should declare a null result and the constituency woud have no MP until next time.

  38. 111
    Abu hava Qatada says:

    Mrs Q off to Harrods to choose new curtains this afternoon , I’m favouring the ones like in Downton Abbey.

    Will be writing to Diane Abbott again to complain about not being allowed to go along. Suppose I’ll just nip down the Mosque and get the brothers warmed up.

    Looking forward the new house though.

    • 137
      Stan says:

      Is the taxpayer giving you a new set of wheels, Abu? A Range Rover Evoque (armour plated, with tinted windows) would suit you nicely.

      • 146
        Roger says:

        with a big fucking bulls eye target on top.

        • 199
          HenryV says:

          I do wonder what will happen when some “patriot” decides to take somebody like Qatada out. As the Islamic minority continues to sit centre stage (I bet to the displeasure of many of them who are good people and want a quiet life) it can be only a matter of time. Frightening stuff.

      • 155
        Abu hava Qatada says:

        Stan? Does your name start with Stan? Or end innit.

  39. 126
    Jack says:

    Why is Corby taking so long?

    Can’t they count up there?

  40. 128
    Jack says:

    Is there censorship here?

  41. 131
    Is this vacuous woman thick or what? says:
    • 157
      Arthur Sixpence says:

      Yes. Next question.

    • 160
      Abu hava Qatada says:

      That’s why she’s not answering my letters. This woman has no shame, taking taxpayers money like that. I demand an even bigger house and a nice box of custard creams.

    • 162
      Boyo says:

      How much does Diane claim for food, and not just tea and biscuits!

    • 163
      Bogeyman says:

      Wasteful, Diane? You mean not enough calories to the pound.

    • 169
      Tay King-dePisse says:

      Set a good example for us, Diane old gal. Give them up altogether– or bring them from home (and don’t claim them on expenses, FFS!) Whatever you do, don’t leave them in Liz Kendall’s fridge (but you know all about that, don’t you?). You might want to get Pickles to sign on as well and make this non-partisan.

    • 221
      Tom Catesby says:

      F***ing hell! I hope the London radio station concerned has got their biscuit barrel under lock and key, before Slabbutt turns up!

  42. 143
  43. 145
    Common Purpose Director says:

    We’re worried that our profile seems to be getting a little too much prominence this morning in the Mail. Please, all our supporters, remember we win via apathy and subtle behind the scenes moves, not by headlines in newspapers.

    • 168
      Chief Superintendent Boot says:

      Sssssssh! Don’t give the game away. Chatham Rules and all that.

      • 206
        Chatham (Kent) Resident says:

        That’s CHATHAM HOUSE rules, dingbat. Chatham rules mean that you get your head kicked in if my benefits are delayed again.

  44. 152
    Weygand says:

    The trouble with apathy is – Oh I can’ be arsed.

    • 174
      The Maundering Old Fart In The Pub says:

      Heh-heh, that’s a good’un, Sunny Jim, but that ain’t the way I heard it; the way I heard it goes like:

      “They say the two biggest problems in society today are ignorance and apathy.
      Well, I don’t really know, nor do I give a toss.”

  45. 159
    No one is immune to settler lunacy says:

    I thought Guido is a christian? Forget the arabs, what about the christians who suffer?

  46. 176
    MB. says:

    I read a comment from someone who worked in one polling station, he said 3% of their register voted in the police elections (not including postal votes).

  47. 178
    YorkshireLad says:

    I bet the response will be “We didn’t get our message accross” rather than “We are all a bunch of meddling b@stards and the public don’t trust us”

  48. 182
    dunstall says:

    Politics at its lowest ebb in modern times,whos to blame? The political class corrupt,self serving and totally out of tune with the electorate as Livingstone once said if voting made a difference they would ban it the only time ive ever agreed with Citezen Ken

  49. 192
  50. 196
    HenryV says:

    I didn’t realise there were a couple of by-elections too.

    Let’s hope UKIP win in Corby.

  51. 210
    NE Frontiersman says:

    They should have started this thing in London: Walthamstow High St ward had a 125% turnout at the last election, which would have set a good example.

  52. 211
    And another thing says:

    When I turned up to spoil my ballot paper yesterday I found that it asked for a first and a secomd choice.

    So well publicised was this election that mobody bothered to inform us that had changed the voting system too!

    What’s next – rigged postal voting?

  53. 212
    Breaking news says:

    Northumbria goes completely tonto. Vera Baird elected as Police Commissioner.

    Scary!

    • 213
      dunstall says:

      What do you expect from the North East ? if they put up a monkey,and they have a few,they would vote Labour.

      • 215
        Ron says:

        unlike Sir Dimwit of Whitney who has to ask for help signing the voting paper for some eton educated tory twat he’s never heard of

  54. 219
    Tom Catesby says:

    Aren’t all these low turnouts, reflecting the Public mistrust and disgust with the political whore class and the corrupt hangers on, just what they want? Apathy is great news, the Public stays away and they stay in power.Snouts in trough, nothing changes.

    • 220
      Tom Catesby says:

      By the way, just how low does a vote for a ‘winning’ candidate have to be before Cameroon will not call it a ‘mandate’?

  55. 227
    keredybretsa says:

    Well it’s Pissed Off Politics innit?

  56. 229
    Jimmy R says:

    As low as 3%? I understand there was one polling station for the PCC stupidity where the turnout was zero, and that was voters, not percentages. I’m not sure where it was but the people there are obviously too intelligent to fall for a pathetic political gimmick.

  57. 230
    Anonymous says:

    Here’s the REAL story! Batman fares strongly in Bristol! http://www.bristolvantage.com/2012/11/16/batman-comes-5th-in-bristol-police-elections/


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Rod Liddle on the loony UN sexism special rapporteur:

“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”



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