November 14th, 2012

Guardian Bails on Hayes Greenpeace ‘Investigation’
+ + + Wind ‘Conspiracy’ Minister Not Energy Minister at Time + + +

Yesterday the Guardian’s Paul Lewis, based on an “investigation” carried out by Greenpeace, put to anti-windfarm campaigner James Delingpole the following conspiracy theory:

  • That Heaton-Harris and you were coordinating a secret plot also involving the Energy Minister, John Hayes.
  • You attended a secret meeting with Heaton-Harris and Hayes to discuss the plan.
  • Hayes’ comments published in the Daily Mail and Telegraph on October 31, 2012, which were initially intended as a speech to the RenewableUK wind conference, were carefully timed to coincide with you withdrawing your candidacy from the by-election and subsequent endorsement of the Conservative position on wind farms.

Last night it ran on the front page the headline:

  • Minister “Linked” to Corby plan

On Twitter last night Guido got into a spat with Ian Katz, the deputy editor of the Guardian:

Only one problem with the conspiracy theory is that it was – apart from Chris Heaton-Harris bragging about his links to Delingpole – demonstrably untrue. He and Heaton-Harris MP are both anti-windfarm campaigners, they are allies and they regularly talk to each other. No big deal, Delingpole is after all his constituent. However a plot involving the Energy Minister John Hayes would be worth a front page. Anyone following the issue would be aware that there is a policy shift going on and enthusiasm for the expensively subsidised windmills is much diminished in austerity governments all over the world. That shift was clearly signalled by the appointment of Hayes during the last reshuffle.

The idea that Hayes was in on a secret plot centred on Delingpole’s Corby campaign is demonstrably nonsense. Delingpole told the Speccie he was going to run in Corby on August 8, 2012, Hayes was only appointed as Energy Minister on September 4, 2012. The supposed plotters could not possibly know that would happen.

Delingpole told Guido when Hayes made the no-more-windfarms speech that he was pleased to be off the hook of running a time-consuming campaign destined to be unsuccessful at the ballot box – “I needed an excuse”. A pretty good excuse given the policy change was a complete victory as this blog reported on the day:

Even in the video recorded by Greenpeace, Heaton-Harris confirms “it was just fortuitous timing”, yet Greenpeace was still allowed to spin on the Guardian’s front page that there was a conspiracy in Corby “linked” to the Energy Minister. Readers might think it was a Guardian story, it wasn’t, it was put together by Greenpeace as a package for the cash-strapped, loss making Guardian – out-sourced like the Bureau of Investigative Journalism’s Newsnight paedo story. John Sauven, Greenpeace’s executive director, says it was “their investigation”. If you outsource investigative journalism to a political campaign, this is what happens. Conspiracy theories replace evidence…

  • There was no coordinated plot involving Hayes.
  • There was no meeting of all three.
  • The speech and Delingpole’s withdrawal from the Corby campaign were not “carefully timed to coincide”.

The Guardian has grudgingly changed the headline online this morning to “Energy minister denies collusion”. The wind has been taken out of the story…


252 Comments

  1. 1
    MongAli says:

    Bored with the green bullshit.

  2. 2
    MongAli says:

    It is head up the arse stuff. The Guardian cannot be taken seriously. Ffs. Shoddy.

  3. 3
    The Today program says:

    We will of course clarify our misleading report on this from this morning’s program.

  4. 4
    Reg. Blank says:

    Obviously a piss-poor attempt at diversion from the 28gate BBC list thing you covered yesterday.

  5. 5
    8illy 8owden, the world's greatist umplre says:

    Just because the facts don’t add up doesn’t mean it’s not true.

  6. 6
    Toby G says:

    Kinda spiked Con Homes story too.

    it should be the defult position now on everything the Gruniad and BBC produce

    …. we don’t believe you.

  7. 7
    Silent Bob says:

  8. 8
    Newsnight Production Team says:

    Tonight on Newsnight! We will be covering this shocking conspiracy! Not sure of all the details yet but we’ll check them after the broadcast.

  9. 9
    Righty Right says:

    Why do you righties all hate the BBC and Guardian? Do you just want a world dominated by Sky News and The Sun?

  10. 10
    Plato says:

    That’s exactly what I thought when I heard the report on Today.

  11. 11
    The world needs more paranoia says:

    …..and even if they do add up it doesn’t prove that it’s true

  12. 12
    Timmy Tour says:

    More people watch the Simpsons than read the Guardian

    And with good reason….there’s more to be had out of it.

  13. 13
    genghiz the kahn says:

    More hot air from The Guardian.

    Haven’t they noticed that the wind has gone out of Vestas’s sales.

  14. 14
    Selohesra says:

    Sky News seems pretty left wing on occaisions – Craig, Boulton and the creepy looking old man all pretty pink to me

  15. 15
    Plato says:

    Have you seen what’s been going on at the BBC lately? And now the Guardian? Accuracy? Evidence? Credibility?

    But it’s ok because they’re left wing?

    Sky and the Sun are absolute rubbish. Never partake of either.

  16. 16
    MongAli says:

    Bullshit is being fired in all directions. Keeping twisting the truth and bending the facts until it is moulded into the relevent ideology or viewpoint. It is a battle to see whose bullshit sticks and who it sticks too. The truth is long gone and all that is left is fifty shades of bullshit being thrown in all directions.

  17. 17
    Bill says:

    i dont hate them its just that they put false stories out without checking them or have an agenda. They also have a bad habit of turning thier gaze away from issues such as child abuse in the midlands or wales. They also as bill clinton said “a lie can go halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on”

    Also greenpeace lied over brent spar so it has form regarding misrepresenting the facts

  18. 18

    There’s no time for that. Just had a credible email that the lunar landings were all fake.
    We’ll be running story tonight – “Dead sex offender astronaut Neil Armstrong shot JFK”

  19. 19
    Ian Katz says:

    The film article was not drawn to my attention before transmission publication

    I check Twitter at the end of the day sometimes – or I don’t

  20. 20
    Ian Allan loco book says:

    Is anyone surprised that this story is untrue?

    There was a story yesterday saying that that fat thicko Bob Crow was accusing the government of planning to introduce third class train travel.
    What someone had proposed was that another class might be introduced between standard and first class. Perhaps Crow is too stupid to realise that 1.5 isn’t 3.

  21. 21
    Righty Right says:

    No, I agree the BBC and Guardian can and are occasionally shit. It’s the overall contempt for them that is bizarre. Surely in a democracy all views should be allowed to be aired. And before you say it, I agree that the BBC shouldn’t be publicly subsidised.

  22. 22
    Anonymous says:

    Why do you assume that everyone on here is a rightie?

  23. 23
    Tom Watson says:

    I’ll be asking a question about this at PMQs.

  24. 24
    who why what where when says:

    Me too.
    Pretty desperate stuff.

  25. 25
    My Attention Span says:

    Climate change. Windfarms. See, I turned off straight away. Never completed reading. Scrolled down, saw dense text with some stuff about who knows waht and who (never heard of half of these folk) and a picture of a nerd and thought: I must buy some more cat food when go out at lunchtime.

  26. 26
    Movie Muff Hunter General says:

    I neither have to buy the Sun or subscribe to SKY tv if I don’t want to,however if I own a radio or televisual device it is assumed I watch or listen to BBC tripe and must by law pay for it.

  27. 27
    Butch Dave says:

    Will no one think of the huskies? With the melting of the ice caps they’re all going to drown!

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    I don’t understand how UK is going to save the world when it emits around 1% of Green House Gas?

    If UK ends up warm, most of us could have better summers and cheaper winters as we don’t have to heat the house as much as we do.

  29. 29
    Anon & never voted ZanuLieLabor & never will says:

    They both share the same belief on why let the truth get in the way of headline grabbing piece of ill researched fiction……..

    With the Guardianista rag I have a real choice & Don’t even think about buying
    this left wing diarrahea that is laughing called a Newspaper, (what ever happened to the trades description act ) to get away with this dead trees bile.

    Where as with the Beeb IF I don’t pay there legalised extortion I am immediately
    under investigation regardless if I have a TV or not and or watch this live left wing fcuking bile……..

    ahh this is whats called democracy but how comes my human rights doe’s
    not come into the equation………..

    the same old story that some are more equal than others……..

    like it or not…….

  30. 30
    The public says:

    There will be three classes. Call ‘standard’ what you like but it is unacceptable now on many trains. Adding another ‘class’ will just mean the rail industry are not interested in improving the lot of ordinary passengers.

  31. 31
    Righty Right says:

    Because you all are. Anyone who doesn’t express anything less than wholehearted support for right wing policies is called a leftie twat etc. I’m a centrist, I don’t like hardcore lefties who want to let out all prisoners, increase benefits by 1000% and ban pork so as not to offend muzees any more than I like hardcore righties who want to privatise the NHS, kill all blacks and ban abortion.

  32. 32
    Gonk III says:

    I hate the BBC because it’s biased when it should be impartial and the Guardian because it’s Communist. That do ?

  33. 33
    Bogeyman says:

    Funny, that. The smell of rats was overpowering in the Graun’s original story.

    This is pure Graun – mangle enough words like Tory, wind farm, minister etc, and the jackals of the left will get RSI hitting the recommend button. True or not doesn’t matter.

    Same formula as pea-doe and Fatcher. They are all gullible idiots.

  34. 34
    Manuel the sheep shagger says:

    I know what you mean.

    I built all the roads in my village – do they call me Manuel the road builder – no

    I built all the boats in the harbour – do they call me Manuel the boat builder – no

    I built all the house in the village – do they call me Manuel the house builder – no

    I shagged a sheep once !

  35. 35
    Eskimo Nell says:

    There are far more huskies alive today than there have ever been.

  36. 36
    what are you wearing? says:

    What ARE your interests then?

  37. 37
    Bogeyman says:

    The Sun is brilliant. Who else could come up with “Elton takes David up the aisle”?

  38. 38
    Anon & fcuk the B B C says:

    correction you don’t need a Mafia Beeb Licence for the radio……this was
    abolished years ago…thankfully…..unless of course I missed something !!!

  39. 39
    Desperate Dan says:

    The BBC’s Norman Smith and Robin Brant were completely taken in by it. Didn’t bother to check facts.

  40. 40
    Rob Wilson MP says:

    I will be writing a letter. It shall be in the public domain

  41. 41
    Anonymous says:

    You’re correct,in a democracy all views should be aired.
    The Guardian has always pushed a lefty stance and as a privately owned operation that’s fair enough.
    But the BBC is publicly funded and therefore supposed to be non-partisan. Sadly any regular viewer/listener knows the organisation has been hijacked by Labourites and the green lobby. The McAlpine libel and 28-gate only proves what we’ve all known for years.

  42. 42
    Hank the Cat says:

    The only good thing to come out of the guardian and the BBC are P45s

  43. 43
    Windy Miller says:

    “Here is a box, a musical box, wound up and ready to play. But this box can hide a secret inside. Can you guess what is in it today”?

    …..The lid of the box then opens and the puppet character that is central to the episode emerges. After a brief introduction, the background appears and the story begins.

  44. 44
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    No Mr Fawkes, it’s not working – I think we understand what’s going on.

  45. 45
    Gonk III says:

    Cats.

  46. 46
    Call me Dave says:

    I am bringing in emergency legislation to issue all Huskies with a Hoodie to keep warm.

  47. 47
    golli says:

    Given how its funding is forced out of license fee payers pockets, El Beebo has a statutory obligation to be impartial and ‘broad-churched’ in its coverage. However it is nowadays a thinly disguised Guardian-on-air and as such deserves all the contempt it gets from listeners/viewers who object to being obliged to pay for a state propaganda machine.

  48. 48
    Azeem Tahav Al-Itosis says:

    That goat meat was rancid.

  49. 49

    I wonder when the BBC/Guardian Axis of Drivel will be reporting on the 28gate story?

  50. 50
    Scoliosis says:

    What was point of all that? As usual the truth gets ignored. Truth is conveniently irrelevent.

  51. 51
    My Attention Span says:

    I like reading the funny comments. Some people on here are quite witty.

  52. 52
    Roscoe Rules says:

    I don’t hate the BBC because it is biased I hate the fucking BBC because I’m forced to pay to listen/watch their fucking bias.

  53. 53
    BBC says:

    We are building a news studio in Tuscany, so that Polly does not have to fly back so much.

  54. 54
    bbb says:

    LOL I notice that you pile the evil on the right but just the bad policy’s on the left ? centrist my **** !

  55. 55
    Gordon says:

    There’s no full stop. I saw a full stop a couple of days ago, and now you haven’t got one. It isn’t fair. It just isn’t fair.

  56. 56
    Bill & Ben says:

    We are left & right. But little weed is in the middle & wilting due to the global warming they keep telling us.

  57. 57
    Anonymous says:

    Next time when we have a green conference hope they all use video conference and not ends up costing millions for planes, hotels, parties, etc.

    It will be interesting if Cameron could say how much CO2 his £200,000 car emits and why he needed a new car when the old car could still do the job. As well as, how much CO2 was produced to make the £200,000 Jag.

  58. 58
    do me a favour says:

    They don’t care if it’s factual or not.
    Norman Smith was one of the main culprits pushing the “Top Tory linked to Thatcher was a Paedo” smear.

  59. 59
    George Entwistle says:

    I have now been informed that JFK has been shot.

  60. 60
    Righty Right meant to say says:

    I drink Raffie tea and worship Gaia

  61. 61
    Engineer says:

    Greenpeace is fairly consistently ‘economical with the actuality’. Over everything. They may be sincere and well-meaning, but they’re not balanced in their analyses.

  62. 62
    Righty Right meant to say says:

    *Raffia

  63. 63
    Righty Right Wing (Mrs) says:

    I dont watch Sky or read The Sun. I dont buy their products.

    Unlike the BBC (TV Poll Tax) & The Guardian (Public Sector job adverts at £78 million per year) – which I am forced to pay for under threat of prison if I refuse either the TV Poll Tax or general Taxation.

    Ok?

  64. 64
    Anonymous says:

    This latest example of shoddy “journalism” is still appearing on the Grauniad website.

  65. 65
    A fine pair of lungs. I can prove it. says:

    I believe I have wasted far too much time reading that steaming pile sh..

  66. 66
    Mrs Entwistle says:

    Are you aware you’re married with 2 kids?

  67. 67
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Smear & spread innuendo & slurs – its what the left do best via the BBC and Guardian.

  68. 68
    Increasing numbers of the public says:

    Me too. I don’t watch anything they put on, and I still theoretically have to pay under pain of CRIMINAL conviction.

  69. 69
    Call me Dave (Trainee Burger Flipper) says:

    Spice up your taste buds with crispy chicken and a colourful mix of shredded lettuce, onions, spiced onion chutney and a yoghurt and mint mayo – all in a toasted bun.

    Visit McDonald’s this week and escape to a land of colour and inspiring flavours with the Chicken and Chutney Indian. With a sensational mix of warm spices and cool mayo, this treat is perfect if you’re looking for a burger that’s a little more exotic.

    Ready for your last taste vacation?

  70. 70
    Latimer Alder says:

    They are just wankers

  71. 71
    Slimy Chuck-a-Butty says:

    I saw this story last night on sky news but being the excellent broadcaster that they are I’d no idea what the guys were saying to each other in the video as the announcer talked the whole time so there was no audio and the subtitles were obscured by the news ticker. Doh.

  72. 72
    Righty Right says:

    I’d call wanting to let out all prisoners, ban pork and increase benefits by 1000% evil. What’s interesting though is that you yourself regard the other things as evil. Surprisingly self-aware for a rightie.

  73. 73
    Anonymous says:

    How much did the secret 28-gate conference cost the BBC?

  74. 74
    The public says:

    But do we care? That is the question.

  75. 75
    Righty Right says:

    I DID say, if you read above, that I agree the BBC should NOT be publicly funded. It should be privatised.

  76. 76
    Latimer Alder says:

    Manuel the Welshman?

  77. 77
    None of the above says:

    They only read the article because it mentioned Ian Katz.

  78. 78
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    “Energy Minister denies collusion” is not the same as “There was no collusion, our story was politically motivated fantasy masquerading as journalism”.

    Suggest you run headlines like “BBC denies political bias” or “Milliband denies shoplifting” and see how the bed wetters react.

  79. 79
    Back Alley Sally says:

    I will be tweeting to my thousands of followers.
    *innocent face*

  80. 80
    Engineer says:

    Don’t worry. Third class travel won’t happen. The railways scrapped all the cattle trucks years ago.

  81. 81
    A Consultant and Media Expert says:

    That’ll be because they need to revamp their mission statement.

  82. 82
    Tom Watson says:

    so Jeremy Hunt’s cousin is a Director of BUPA, well, just how far does the web spread? Corrupt Tory Bastards.

  83. 83
    Ed or the other one says:

    Milliband would never deny shoplifting. He is an honourable man.

  84. 84
    Silent Bob says:

    .

  85. 85
    Johnny Logic says:

    My cousin works in Cambridge. Does that make me the fifth man?

  86. 86
    It is my life. All mine. Nobody elses. So fuck off. says:

    The Guardian can take their green minging arsehole and take it for a jog around Disney Land. Cus I don’t give a Daffy Duck about the Guardian and its greeny pile poo!

  87. 87
    A shagged sheep says:

    Manuel the Cumbrian

  88. 88
    The public says:

    Will there be tax with that?

  89. 89
    Anonymous says:

    Do you also think that the Guardian should be forced to pay a proper amount of tax?

  90. 90
    Guido's drinking partner says:

    Arghhh… WHAT IS THIS PICTURE? Clue – it’s not part of a Bushtucker Trial http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity/pictures/guess-what-clue-its-not-part-bushtucker-trial65044

  91. 91
    A Cumbrian says:

    Why is he beiing picked on for giving a sheep one?

  92. 92
    A cat says:

    We only read it because the keyboard is warmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  93. 93
    All wittiness is bad says:

    You must identify who is being witty so that we can put a stop to it.

  94. 94
    ReefKnot says:

    The telly tax is like being forced by law to pay for the Guardian, even though you don’t like it or read it.

  95. 95
    alastair harris says:

    wind farm gate? Next we will get Polly moaning that the Archers are not covering it properly!

  96. 96
    Websters Dictionary says:

    Centrist

    If you sit on the fence you get splinters in your arse.

  97. 97
    AC1 says:

    I hate them. Both are mainly funded via coercion of working people.

  98. 98
    albacore says:

    Recall how all the great BBC noses
    Couldn’t distinguish Savile stink from roses
    Yet these pompous pricks, without even a blink
    Still daily presume to tell us what to think

  99. 99
    The world needs more paranoia says:

    You are the fifth man Mr Logic and we are coming to get you!

  100. 100
    Engineer says:

    I have a cousin who lives in Canada. Does that make me a foreigner?

  101. 101
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Janeane Garofalo, actress and wacko Leftie activist, was married for 20 years and SHE wasn’t aware of it, sez she:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/janeane-garofalo-was-married-20-years-boyfriend-didnt-know-it_n_2123369.html

  102. 102
    Got a new crayon says:

    with or without legal fees?

  103. 103
    None of the above says:

    As your moniker is Engineer, yes probably.

  104. 104
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    I don’t hate the Guardian. I hate Guardian readers for being as thick as two short planks for swallowing all its bullshit.

  105. 105
    Sir Mervyn King says:

    Oy vey! The UK economy’s up the shitter thanks to printing money. We must print £375,000,000,000 again for my mates to improve the economy. If the schmuck plebs fall for this shite again we have nothing to worry about.

  106. 106
    Yerwot Yercunt says:

    Too expensive per killowat and not very green to make, situate and maintain. Great lets build the major part of our renewable energy project on them.!
    We’re living in looking glass zeitgeist where reason is the enemy!

  107. 107
    Anonymous says:

    They are white. If they were green the planes would crash into them.

  108. 108
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    Weren’t there any children to abuse?

  109. 109
    John Page says:

    How do The Guardian’s journalistic standards here compare with those they demand from the BBC?

    Er ….

  110. 110
    katabasis1 says:

    It’s backfired spectacularly too – not just because the story has fallen down, but because it so transparently demonstrates their agenda.

  111. 111
    The public says:

    I think the Guardian should be shut down. I hate grown men who wear tanktops with thick-rimmed glasses.

  112. 112
    Roscoe Rules says:

    When it comes to politics most people at my local boozer talk about how there are too many immigrants and how climate change is a load of shit.
    It would be great to see that being spoken about at the ‘Rovers Return’ or ‘Queen Vic’.
    Somehow I don’t think that is the sort of thing Polly had in mind though.

  113. 113
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    The climate alarmist & warming activist Tom Chivers at The Telegraph is calling you a Tory Guido:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100189497/the-bbc-isnt-balanced-in-its-reporting-of-climate-change-but-the-facts-arent-balanced-either/

    Apparently, those who do not believe in AGW also believe that Dodo’s left for Mars on a space ship to dig the canals.

    At this rate he will be working for the BBC in no time.

  114. 114
    Tax is theft says:

    Guido, you’d better tell Sky News, they’re having a bit of a frenzy with it.

  115. 115
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    More faith based journalim from the Guardian.

  116. 116
    Anonymous says:

    at the other end of the spectrum well off texas, wants to remove itself from the jurisdiction of the US govt. 25,000 have signed a petition.

  117. 117
    Nice People in Caravans says:

    We don’t bother with a Licence.

  118. 118
    Yerwot Yercunt says:

    Yah poor Polly (put the kettle on there’s a good lass) will be whining in the whine bars and crying all the way back to her Tuscan palace after berating us all on the merits of lumping more (green)taxes on poor workers who can barely afford a packet of fags or keep themselves warm in winter!
    If I was a faq wing painter my art would bleed for the dotty old bint!

  119. 119
    Lex Whatnot says:

    It might do if one of your grandparents was a foreign national of a country which allows its nationality to passed down to the second generation.

  120. 120
    The bureau of investigative supredoper journalism says:

    We have our finest man across this , yes a certain Mr P Schofield

  121. 121
    A Christmas Card says:

    Is that like a seraphim or more like a cherubim?

  122. 122
    Anonymous says:

    ok.
    didn’t know that. sad. hope it didn’t hurt.
    but in a world when the packaging is not always honest.

  123. 123
    Guido's drinking partner says:

    The Bank of England has cut its UK growth forecast to minus 1%, with recovery “slow and protracted” and inflation staying higher than previously thought.

    Continuing global economic fragility meant the previous forecast of about 5% was unlikely to be achieved, it said.

    Bank governor Sir Mervyn King said he had “lost faith” with that grinning imbecile,George Osborne, as Chancelllor

  124. 124
    IMHO says:

    About time you got to the point, rambling on as usual.

  125. 125
    Ed Millibland says:

    Don’t wowwy I embrath foweigners coth I am one.

  126. 126
    Yerwot Yercunt says:

    Cue twee background music favoured by smug middle class Hunts —>This isn’t just any social narrative this is a liberal media approved social narrative…

  127. 127
    Taxivation says:

    It is worse than that. it is like being forced to buy the Guardian otherwise you won’t be allowed to buy the Times or pick up a free copy of the Metro

  128. 128
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    WTF?

    What part of Europe is Egypt?

    “Egypt’s presidency says the European Union approves $6.3 billion in support, to be mainly provided by the European Investment Bank and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.”

    http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/3/12/58083/Business/Economy/BREAKING-Egypt-to-receive–bn-in-support-from-EU-P.aspx

  129. 129
    Fishy says:

    The odiuos Polly was quickly out of the traps simply to try to defend the BBC’s bevhaviour in the 28-gate scandal.

    The shithouses at the BBC had been caught out yet again, so her promotion of (her type of) politics in wider programming was an attempt to legitimise the attendance of the BBC’s heads of drama, comedy etc etc etc as experts at their ‘How do we indoctrinate the viewer’ conference on climate change.

    Now that we know that it wasn’t the claimed conference of experts, hopefully the bloke who took the BBC to the Information Tribunal will now make a complaint of perjury against them.

  130. 130
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    You can’t turn a flying pig into energy policy

  131. 131
    Anonymous says:

    BBC and Vatican.
    peas in a horrible pod. strangely both are powers. startship enterprise level. entities to be reckoned with.

  132. 132
    Anonymous says:

    Honourable men don’t stab their brothers in the back.

  133. 133
    Tell us more says:

    Norman Smith? Doesn’t he have some habits? Nothing illegal, of course, wouldn’t want to smear the chap, but decidedly habitual. Maybe even noteworthy.

  134. 134
    UKIP.i.am.still says:

    Pyramid selling?

  135. 135
    Righty Right says:

    Everyone including Guardian and Polly Toynbee should be made to pay the right amount of tax.

    Many of the responses illustrate the very problem I mentioned above. Some of you immediately assume I’m a leftie Guardian reader just for asking why some of you hate it. Like I said, anything less than 100% wholehearted embrace of all things right wing is met with suspicion. I actually loathe Labour, I loathe the likes of Toynbee, Hodge, Watson, Miliband, Brown etc, but at the same time I don’t ally myself with those on the right who are homophobic and racist.

  136. 136
    Gordon says:

    (Grudgingly and dourly) Thanks. I was about to throw my Nokia.

  137. 137
    None of the above says:

    The story smells funny. In fact it Sphinx

  138. 138
    bergen says:

    It is simply too obvious. A Greenpeace representative was one of the 28 “experts” named. They probably had this on the spike to release in case the story came out.

    Thankfully these people always leave their grubby fingerprints over their failing efforts.

  139. 139
    Anonymous says:

    Guido, have the balls to call it “lies” and “smears” not “spin”. Just call it a bare faced lie.

  140. 140
    The Biggest beard in the Old Testament says:

    If God wanted people to have brothers, he wouldn’t have invented knives

  141. 141
    IMHO says:

    Keep printing money and inflation is bound to increase, Mervyn you dimwit.

  142. 142
    Drop a Daisy cutter on ITV says:

    At least he doesn’t talk shit

  143. 143
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    FFS – how much of our grandchildrens money has Cast Iron Dave promised them?

  144. 144
    Munny says:

    My cousin Phil is an electrician, his wife is a bit of a minger

  145. 145
    Call me Dave says:

    Oh I say how spiffing. Can we chip in at all?

  146. 146
    Freedom of press? says:

    I believe in freedom of press and free speech. I don’t support shoddy journalism. But the Guardian and BBC is so full of this kind of tripe, it makes you want to put a permanent gagging order on them. They peddle rubbish and get away with it.
    Maybe if certain media outlets who demonstrate their shoddy journalism over and over again were regulated on a temporary basis(not permantly) until they upped their game, might be an idea worth pursuing. It would put the wind up the BBC and the Guardian so much so that they would stop peddling so much garbage.

  147. 147
    Dave says:

    But you can put it in charge

  148. 148
    Bogeyman says:

    Over on CiF, the intellectuals of the Left…

    “Dellingpole is a moron”: 748 recommends
    “Brilliant work by Greenpeace”: 286 recommends.
    “‘Delingpolegate’ is a non-story”: 8 recommends (one of them mine)

    Plus someone else trying to make out it’s all true because Heaton-Harris didn’t deny saying what he said. Of course he didn’t – it’s on film, you fuckin idiot.

  149. 149
    Peter Grimes says:

    The wind might have been taken out of their lies but they still got it out to the sheeple on the Toady programme and the tv news this morning. Will we see a retraction? Will we fuckery!

  150. 150
    IMHO says:

    Dhow Jones Indexed?.

  151. 151
    albacore says:

    Well, if windmills ain’t a pig in a poke
    They must be some wit’s idea of a joke

  152. 152
    Liam Byrne says:

    There’s no money left.

  153. 153
    Timmy Touch Winkle says:

    I got a full education bunking school and watching the Simpsons

  154. 154
    Percy says:

    Don’t forget the peadoes in the B B C

  155. 155
    Call me Dave says:

    Or put the price of bacon UP

    Chortle

  156. 156
    Mark says:

    What about Peter Lilley saying the Torys are setting up to dismantle the climate change act…

  157. 157
    bergen says:

    I hate the Guardian for wrecking the Observer. They absolutely ruined a fine newspaper when they got their claws into it.

  158. 158
    D-Notice says:

    Well that’s a Sharm

  159. 159
    Get a grip says:

    25000 signing a petition is not ‘Texas’.

  160. 160
    Sensible Person says:

    BUPA is a private, not for profit company limited by guarantee. This means that any profit is ploughed back into its services. It does not have shareholders or pay dividends.

  161. 161
    IMHO says:

    I recommend that they are all put against a wall and shot (can you still say things like that without getting a custodial sentence?), Cif-hilis is free.

  162. 162
    Geranium says:

    Has Schofield been sacked yet?

  163. 163
    Tom Watson says:

    GUIDO FAWKES writes:

    FILTHY POLITICIANS:

    AT OUR CHILDRENS HOME IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT, NO MASKS OR BLINDFOLDS; WE WERE JUST TOLD YOU WILL DO THIS OR YOU WILL BE TIED AND DROPPED OFF THE SIDE OF MY YACHT WITH BRICKS IN YOUR POCKETS.

    AFTERWARDS WE OFTEN COULD NOT WALK WITH THE PAIN BUT WE ALL FELT REAL FEAR.

    WE WERE TOLD IF WE SPOKE OUT WE WOULD BE KILLED SECRETLY; KEEP QUIET AND YOU WILL HAVE POCKET MONEY AND SWEETS.

    YET WE SAW BIG MONEYS BEING PAID FOR US, NO ONE BELIEVED US.

  164. 164
    None of the above says:

    I wouldn’t worry all the recommends will be from teat sucklers in the public sector.

  165. 165
  166. 166
    A woman says:

    He looks like Andrew Marrs twin.
    And they’re both creepy f*ckers.

  167. 167
    Polly in Tuscany says:

    I only mentioned the Archers because I can’t get British TV out here. I’m stuck with BBC radio.

  168. 168
    Rat's arse says:

    Hey Bob, they’ve silenced me too! I had my comment removed, and all I did was agree with you! Time for another Moniker I’m afraid!

  169. 169
    BBC News28 says:

    When we close our eyes, it disappears!

  170. 170
    Screwed Taxpayer says:

    What with? More Q.E. stealing from savers ?

    Separate point — Gove is reducing D of E staff by 1000. Will you and he give personal guarantees that they will not just be re-employed as external consultants? The non -work that they do must cease to exist, full stop.

  171. 171
    Anonymous says:

    has your friend been bragging to undercover reporters again. i guess you have the wapping transcript of his texts to the sun under cover reporter?

  172. 172
    Screwed Taxpayer says:

    How much have you reduced the Deficit by this morning Dave?

  173. 173
    AC1 says:

    The atmosphere has changed by 0.001%, it’s an emergency.

  174. 174
    Anonymous says:

    Isn’t Egypt now run by the Muslim Brotherhood?

  175. 175
    AC1 says:

    Bet that AlJabeebya never mentioned the 28gate kerfufel.

  176. 176
    A Pharoah says:

    Tut

  177. 177
    English for Beginners says:

    “CHILDREN’S HOME”

    The apostrophe is your friend.

  178. 178
    Engineer says:

    Well, that would be progress.

  179. 179
    Anonymous says:

    What part of Europe is Egypt? A vital part.

    Who would build the EU without control of its major trade route?

    If you want to see corruption there is no better place. We pay Egypt, our navies patrol the far side and still they can not work out how the pirates know where and what is on our ships. Egypt is similar to the concept of selling the channel tunnel to Iraq.

  180. 180
    My Attention Span says:

    No, sorry, just saw the big capitals and stopped reading.

  181. 181
    GreenSh1ts says:

    The funny thing is, outside of the Westminster and eco-twat bubble, no one gives a shit. Katz, Atkins, Peppiatt, Stewart, etc, shove it up your twats, this story has all the legs of a clubbed seal.

  182. 182
    Henry Brubaker says:

    Imagine if, as a thought experiment, the left decided to come up with an evil ‘Tory’ wheeze to demonstrate just how awfully evil Tories could be they might actually come up with the wind farm scam. Lets have a look at the evil ‘tory’ credentials of the system shall we?

    Windfarms do not actually work. They produce a middling amount of energy , intermittantly with no reference to actual demand. They are designed to solve a problem that doesn’t exist and in any even their impact upon this problem is so low that it cannot actually be measured. In short they are massive white elephants. Except far bigger than elephants. And whiter.

    Windfarms are hugely expensive, yet they are paid for, by and large, by those least able to afford it. Wind subsidies and feed in tariffs mean the poorest and those most vulnerable to energy poverty pay for these devices.

    This money, taken out of the pockets of the poorest, goes to multinational corporations (many outside the UK) and wealthly land owners. Typically these wealthy landed gentry are Tory toffs. So we have britains poorest paying vast sums of money to britains richest.

    Even better on the evil stakes, the poorest have NO choice but to pay this money (or freeze) AND they receive virtually no benefit whatsoever from the machines they are paying for.

    Tax payers money also subsidises these things, yet that money often leaves the country to go to our inbternational competitors AND again is used to enrich the richer still.

    As a result of energy poverty thousands of vulnerable and elderly people are forced, every winter, to choose between food and fuel. The subsidies and taxes to pay for these would make all the difference in many cases. Often these people are unable to meet the demands of the wind industry, eating and heating their homes. As a result many will die and many more will find themselves ill and in hospital. The ‘evil’ tories in this thought experiment are indirectly killing the old and infirm so that they can maximise their profits.

    Not only that these devices also destroy the environment they purport to save, cause illness and distress in those FORCED to have them as neighbours (and also makes their homes drop in value or become unsaleable), kill all sorts of protected birds and bats and generally shit up the place by looking awful.

    So we have rich ‘tory’ toffs and fat cats sticking their hands into the tax payers pocket whilst ruining the environment. Camerons father in law rakes in a fortune from this!

    How more thoroughly evil and right wing can you get? Its quite a startling thought experiment isn’t it? Its a pity its real life

    Yet the Guardiastas, hair shirt wearers and fellow travellers all clap and cheer for the eco-crucifixes. They demand more of the same and damn the consequences on those least able to afford them. Those people baffle me, they really do.

    So much for the caring left, so much for compassion for the vulnerable, so much for social justice. All must be swept aside so that they can prostrate themselves at the feet of Mother Gaia and this failed religion of CAGW.

    You have to hand it to the wind farm industry. The genius of getting the illiberal left on board with such a monstrous assault on common sense, the environment, the poor and vulnerable all for the enrichment of fat cats and the wealthy Tory elite is a work of masterly, evil, genius.

    Gentlemen of the windfarm business: Sirs, I salute your indefatigableness!

  183. 183
    John Pressednuts says:

    I’ve got bloody wind. 500 calories a sniff.

    Heh, heh. It’s the way I expel ‘em. Where’s Tracey?

  184. 184
    Tommy the Tank Engine says:

    There is no need to alter class of travel.

    They will just keep forcing fares above inflation.

    That way the plebs will be forced away.

  185. 185
    Dave says:

    To govern is to choose. i choose to do nothing.

  186. 186
    Anonymous says:

    Gone with the wind – The Tories want to be blown away in Corby

  187. 187
    Bogeyman says:

    But that is the worry. They are public sector, stupid, and breeding like fruit flies.

  188. 188
    Angela says:

    No, they were exported.

  189. 189
    misterneddy says:

    The BBC should be funded by those viewers and listeners that choose to pay for it’s content. It should be advert free and it should be broken up into distinct subscription only channels. These should raise enough revenue (if they are as popular as they claim) to create a free-to-air public service channel for everyone to be able to view for free. A channel dedicated to public information. Strictly neutral fact based programming. No opinion, or speculation allowed. JUST facts reported neutrally.

  190. 190

    There’s no PMQ’s today.

    Did you miss the email? Miliband booster posse has the day off.

  191. 191
    Looking on the bright side says:

    I don’t think you need to worry about it too much – the Guardian is going to go under in 12-18 months (I doubt they’ll be around to cover the next General Election) and the BBC is headed for a break-up and sell-off, because both of them are shit and no-one’s prepared to pay for them any more.

  192. 192
    AC1 says:

    Good news just in time for xmas.

  193. 193
    Abu Qatada says:

    Cheers, mate. Oh, by the way, thanks for increasing my benefits. Much appreciated.

    You worthless infidel scum.

  194. 194
    The Barclay Bros says:

    We are aiming to move the Telegraph further to the left, there’s a financial opportunity there with the imminent demise of the Guardian.

  195. 195
    fooled more than once says:

    Take note Englanders of the cheers that James McClean will receive when he touches the ball playing for the Republic of Ireland tonight .. all for refusing to wear a poppy on his Sunderland shirt, and displaying his ‘we hate the British’ credentials that the Republic of Ireland fans revel in.

  196. 196

    Very good.
    And don’t forget the EU wide demands for renewable energy to replace older sources.
    And the massive subsidy that go with it.

  197. 197
    Ya Bass says:

    The Minister was “linked” to the plan by Heaton Harris in the video…

    Given that neither the headline nor the text of the Guardian article are wrong.

  198. 198
    Synic says:

    Well done Abu. You have demonstrated for us yet again that Dave is a totally useless weak cnut.

  199. 199
    neothesis says:

    Can you imagine the BBC running the story if the GWPF had secretly filmed a labour politician encouraging an extremist green party supporter? You can bet the farm the BBC would not touch it with a barge pole.

    This non story hit all the right buttons for the BBC, they got to attack a Tory enemy and a sceptic at the same time, two enemies with one smear. Of course it didnt matter to the BBC if the story was actually true or not, all that mattered was the priceless opportunity to attack its ideological enemies.

  200. 200
    Susie says:

    One of the delegates at the 2006 Cambridge Symposium/seminar was Trevor Evans from the US Embassy.

    The BBC’s Charter expressly forbids any foreign government or representative of a foreign government having any input, involvement or influence over BBC editorial policy.

    Got them bang to rights in contravention of their Charter on that one alone.

  201. 201
    Yet Another Ex-Tory says:

    “Climate Change Act

    The UK is unique in being the only country around the world that has introduced a long-term legally binding framework to tackle the dangers of climate change.”

    http://www.theccc.org.uk/about-the-ccc/climate-change-act

    Does it not occur to our government that if we’re the only country in the world to have introduced a “legally binding framework” to do this, it might just be because it’s a really f*cking stupid idea?

  202. 202
    vg says:

    thats the best one, so it isis

  203. 203
    dog says:

    Moniker, doesn’t she work outside kings cross?

  204. 204
    Anonymous says:

    They are a government. They make taxes. They taxed all, to pay 10x generating prices to any major land owners. They changed the laws so development could occur on protected moors etc. Ultimately we (well not me) voted them in, so are to blame.

    The rest is just propaganda and miss-information for their self justification.

  205. 205
    Dick Droxford says:

    Getting back to the point of this blog post, I note this afternoon that those stalwarts of accurate and impartial reportage, Radio 4 News, are still leading with the Delingpole conspiracy story. I suppose that if they keep banging the drum for a little while longer, some of the poison will seep into the cracks and do it’s work. That is after all the socialist strategy. They are all shameless and the sooner Right thinking people and organizations understand this, the sooner a strategy can be put into place to address the imbalance.

  206. 206
    Abu Qatada says:

    Oh, it was easy-weasy! There are only so many hours in the day, and Dave likes to spend his banging on about gay marriage and climate change.

    While he was distracted by these “big important issues” that are all “so close to the hearts of the British public”, my lawyers were able to walk all over him.

  207. 207
    Susie says:

    I wouldn’t say they’re thick — more autistic like their editor, Alan Rusbridger.

    My brother went to school at Cranleigh with him and they lived nearby. One w/e exeat we got a panicky call from him, as he’d gone home to find strangers living in his house. He’d completely forgotten his parents had sold up and moved elsewhere at the beginning of term.

    True story.

  208. 208
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    I guess a man who is paid to kick a pigs bladder isn’t able to remember the 100,000 from Eire who fought in WW2, and the 3,500 who died to rid us of National Socialism.

  209. 209
    Jimmy says:

    Busted.

    Still your loyalty is admirable however badly misplaced.

  210. 210
    GreenSh1ts says:

    See 181.

  211. 211
    The Great Telegraph Blogger-Chief Whip Conspiracy says:

    Would be fucking hilarious if Cameron called a press conference and announced he’s backing CHH and plans to repeal the Climate Change Act.

    He won’t though.

  212. 212
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    Scrap telly tax and make them compete for money with nurses and teachers etc.

    A cat fight in a sack – they will rip each other to shreds.

  213. 213
    Fred says:

    Guardian felchers live in a bubble, do what the rest of the world does and ignore them. If enough people did that their hit number would crash and they’d lose even more money.

  214. 214
    Bogeyman says:

    Yes, very good.

    The Left do not “care”. They pretend they do – far more than anyone else. Which means that if you don’t agree with them, you don’t “care”. It is a brilliant tactic on which their principles (I use the word loosely) hang.

    They also understand that if you smother people with “care” they become dependent on you, beholden to you. This is exactly what the Left want as it ensures their continued funding.

    The problem is that you end up with a nation of pampered pets, incapable of existing without the “caring” Left handing out more Bonio’s. But the Bonio’s will eventually run out.

    Anyone who tries to break this moribund state of affairs is cast as uncaring and evil. And the pampered pets will, of course, agree.

    Therefore we are fuck’d.

  215. 215
    Adult says:

    It’s good to see youth here. I assume you must be a child since you appear to be a football fan. If you develop properly, you should grow out if it before you’re 21.

  216. 216
    mad dogs and Englishmen says:

    Lot of manuel Labour there. Geddit?

    Not from Barcelona by any chance are?

  217. 217
    For info only says:

    If you sit on a fence you are known as a Mugwump.

    Mug on one side and wump on the other.

  218. 218
    For info only says:

    Is that in the Dulux catalogue?

  219. 219
    For info only says:

    Militwit’s comments usually have us in stitches.

  220. 220
    For info only says:

    Yes, there will be tax with vat.

  221. 221
    For info only says:

    Buy a sub to a satellite or cable supplier you tight fisted cow

  222. 222
    For info only says:

    Spinning round and round they go
    – ‘cepting when the wind don’t blow.

  223. 223
    For info only says:

    Anybody see Byrne’s pathetic reBUTTal to the Minister’s comments? Silly arse.

  224. 224
    For info only says:

    It is completely in denile.

  225. 225
    Airey Belvoir says:

    Legend has it that when the Sun newsroom was thinking of a headline for the story of Versace being shot dead in Miami, a work experience lad came up with ‘Shoots You, Sir.’ In the end they went for the slightly less flippant ‘Fashion Victim’, but the young genius was hired.

  226. 226
    For info only says:

    The same lot are also rampant daily on Yahoo. Quite astonishing what crap and unsullied ignorance is on display there.

  227. 227
    For info only says:

    Quite absolutely so. Will Dave find Commons time to do it before the next election though?

  228. 228
    You might be owed £1,000s for miss sold PPI. says:

    Like Your Opera.

  229. 229
    For info only says:

    Given today’s not really very impressive employment figures, somebody should tell Dave pdq that a whole industry is raring to go taking the bloody things down again and restoring our beautiful countryside to its original state. Pop-in-law has made more than enough from the public tit to keep him and his family in extreme comfort for the next three generations.

  230. 230
    For info only says:

    …again..

  231. 231
    Ideas for an empty blank sheet of paper (Para 1) says:

    Perhaps one of the Militwits could stand up and say they were wrong/misled (or similar) when in government and proposed a Bill for just that purpose. Just for laughs like..

  232. 232
    Bob Christmas says:

    Unlike you

  233. 233
    Dave "Dave" Cameron says:

    There arn’t any this week but feel free to turn up and talk to an empty House

  234. 234
    Max By Graves says:

    Newsnight believe a unnamed Tory politician did it.

    Tom Watson will be making astatement in the House

  235. 235
    Lefty Left says:

    Because we don’t lefties.

  236. 236
    Lord Godzilla says:

    More people have walked on the moon than read The Guardian

  237. 237
    Denis MacShame says:

    Yes.

    I have just painted my office with it.

  238. 238
    Chippy Minton says:

    Tell Mrs Honeyman to stay out of sight ’cause there’s goona be a riot down in Trumpton tonight

  239. 239
    CYNICAL OLD MAN says:

    Don’t mind Guardianistas airing their views, but I just wish they were so f***ing superior and holier than thou about doing it. In fact, they don’t air their views, they lecture you and become dismissive, patronising or downright insulting if you dare to disagree with them. Just look at the comments on any CiF thread for the evidence.

  240. 240
    CYNICAL OLD MAN says:

    Typo there…. should read ..”just wish they weren’t so superior……”

  241. 241
    Anonymous says:

    A petition filed for Texas secession had reached nearly 100,000 signatures by Wednesday, well past the 25,000 the White House said were needed to warrant an official response.

  242. 242
    Anonymous says:

    most things are not worth saying,

  243. 243
    (I've been renamed) DA-Notice says:

    BBC News website still spinning this natch; even using the same Grauniad cover photo on the website article.

  244. 244
    keredybretsa says:

    Who can we trust these dark days? Even my left hand watches the right hand and vice versa. Now Green Peas the trustworthy campaigner….sorry….remove trustworthy and we rest our case.

  245. 245
    Ehtch says:

    Buy property in Greenland or Northern Canada – it will be worth a fortune in a decade or two, when the permafrost has gone, oil and mineral rights and all that, or you could plant spuds instead.

  246. 246
    Ehtch says:

    More here today gone tomorrow tory MPs playing games and toytown politics and numbnut machinations again. Where do they find these idiots?

    What do you say Sir Robin Day, if you were still around, that is?

  247. 247
    Ehtch says:

    Someone should interview that electrician that fitted that windmill on Cameron’s roof in deepest London when he was leader of the oppo. Cameron green? – as green as my fat behind he is!

  248. 248
    Ehtch says:

    Yeh, and it is funny any London riots never reach or get mentioned in Walford me ol’ china – they must be clothed there up east.

  249. 249
    Ehtch says:

    Tidy poem.

    The beeb have a warped version of Children in Need, haven’t they? In need of what we should ask, a good rogering? And had to turn over to Russia Today this morning, with all those beeb newsreaders driving round Jezza Clarkson’s track. Bet Fiona Bruce made him go back and fore to the bog for self-administered hand shandies, the letch he is.

  250. 250
    Ehtch says:

    What did the Kiwi say to the Taffy?

    Mehhhh, don’t like the look of yours, mehhhh.

  251. 251
    The 28 says:

    “If UK ends up warm, most of us could have better summers and cheaper winters…”

    And we wouldn’t need to fly south for our holidays every year!

  252. 252
    James Delingpole is a charlatan says:


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