1922 Committee EU Budget Friction
While Boris was the headliner of the Tory backbench 1922 Committee meeting tonight, it seems Claire Perry got a rough ride for standing up and lambasting the 53 rebels from last weeks EU Budget vote. Sources say said rebels did not hide their contempt for what they saw as a concerted effort by “whip’s stooges” to castigate the naughty ones for upsetting the government. Kris Hopkins went off on one about collusion with Labour and urged colleagues to write to the Mail on Sunday to complain about coverage. Guido doubts the post bag will be bursting.
Just gives us plebs a say!
Why the Mail on Sunday?
Without EU and Human Rights this country would have end up like a slave factory. Most of you lot will be waiting at the homes of some rich man.
The EU is a democracy free zone. That’s getting perilously close to slavery.
We don’t even elect our Head of State!
Even though I have to say she is much better than the once who could have become Head of State.
Our head of state takes no part in politics, so not being elected is not really an issue. The decision-makers (or at any rate, those that carry the can at election time for the decisions made) are elected.
Anonymous it’s way past your bed time, do just fuck off and don’t give mummy any lip.
Dominic Grieve moved to avert a constitutional crisis by blocking the release of 27 letters containing “particularly frank” views that could cast doubt on the Prince’s political neutrality.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/9613523/Prince-of-Wales-letters-letters-a-threat-to-Charles-as-King.html
I agree with a lot of things he said in public. It would have been better if he was the PM than some of the idiots we ended up with.
What has that got to do with the Head of State? Charlie isn’t King yet, in case you weren’t aware.
“We don’t even elect our Head of State!”
Damn right you don’t. I rule you. You get no say.
My obedient poodles in the LibLabCon Party of the Slave State of Britain love this situation. As I do, too. Natch.
Send me more money.
It looks like a german dictatorship at the moment!
why is the Queen, the mother confessor.
the pm reports to her every week.
she might be the biggest political player in the land, for all we know, and we don’t.
And where in the world do you come from??
Engineer, then why was Charles writing letters for and government refusing to publish it?
Don’t ask me, I’m an engineer, not a fucking royal equerry.
Engineer, Charley was writing letter what was it about?
It does not matter, they never read them. When was the last recorded time that an MP took notice of anyone other than themselves.
It good that he even tried to communicate.
Waiting for what?
Yes, exactly the same as we were since the 1960′s when I was born. You are probably the pillock who wrote in the Guardian that China is more of a democracy than the USA!
England invented human rights you dikhed.
You are a Moron and I claim my free slave!
Before talking about EU budget they should kick the peado out of House of Commons or at least assure the pubic that these people aren’t sitting MPs or Lords.
So who is the ‘peado’ in the House of Commons? Name names
Just check the internet.
Ah yes. The internet. That well-known zone of complete freedom from unsubstantiated rumours, gossip, nutters with grudges and trolls with axes to grind.
Yeah – if it’s on the internet it must be right.
Pillock.
Er, you’re on the internet Engineer.
So are you. Are we both nutters?
There are three of them doing the rounds, none of them have sued. I am sure most of you will know their names.
“So are you. Are we both nutters?”
Only if you need to ask.
Are you sure its a Tory MP?
In the 80s it was always Labour MPs sucking up to miners.
Engineer is right. It kind of feels good when there are facts to support accusations. A certain MP should take note that they are also required when accusing the public.
Why the Mail on Sunday?
’cause it and it’s sister paper masquerade as Tory papers but are determined to undermine the Tories, Cameron, the Royal Family.
Remember that its editor was a regular companion and ‘friend’ of Goron Brown. He was said to have attended his child’s funeral and acording to Leveson evidence regularly met Gordoom for early morning walks and breakfast.
There is no smoke without fire – Mr Dacre was of course a major cog / name amongst others on the D Notice committee at the time of the Iraq war.
If no one has the full set of names – and asks me politely for them – I will put them up tomorrow.
O yes Please leave mine out thanks..
Better leave Handy out too. Not a good moment for the LibDems in Portsmouth just now.
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/cosham-residents-want-by-election-after-shock-defection-1-4450404
To Pompey V – I seem to recall a similar event just up the road from you at Bournemouth about a year or so ago – where Elected Independent Borthwick jumped independence to join the tory clan … just days after he had been elected on anindependent ticket – and Borthwick is a confirmed Handy brother too.
Well, well, well.
“went off on one” very good phase to describe his actions. Has been known to apologise. A loose cannon to be directed carefully, but totally loyal and complicit in cover-ups.
Hopkins can not be bothered to have a website. Why would anyone be bothered with him.
No don’t worry – we are losing the plot, not you.
Plot?? Was there one ever??
Why? The plebs did not vote to join, why do they need a referendum to leave? We just needs MP’s prepared to act in the interest of their constituents. Vote them out until we have MP’s prepared to do as the electorate demand.
The political class have a different agenda it’s called self enrichment. The voters are the annoying people that try and stop this agenda.
is 1922 hard core establishment.
I would very much like to give Claire Perry a VERY rough ride!
Good
Weren’t you at the BBC at the same time as Savile?
I once encouraged my kids to write to Jim’ll fix it, we wanted a new house, I have to say we are all traumatised by the allegations and how close we were to being victims, actually we consider ourselves to be victims
Some would enjoy a rough ride from Claire Perry.
I will volunteer
Good man, that’s the spirit.
Iim would have fixed it for me!
True, but maybe not in the way you imagine.
You might be wasting your time – didn’t Claire Perry sing that she’d kissed a girl?
Yes and she liked it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-mp-claire-perry-told-1104655
Wow she looks vacant.
clare perry is a babe I would
Can’t find the dvd on Amazon, any ideas?
Me too!
Bet she is a better shag than Ed
That is f*cking disgusting….wash out yer mouth !!
“And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren’t for you meddling minorities, women and gays!” – Mitt Romney
Thanks to the lack of a border that’s MAJORITIES now.
Unhindered movement of the World’s populations will mean
the end of Nation States.
THE CHILDREN’S HOMES ORGANISED PAEDOPHILE RINGS BY CHILDREN HAVE RIGHTS IN SOCIETY http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/content/read_more/complexInfobox/site_news/infobox/elements/template/default/active_id/1964 …
THE CHILDREN’S HOMES ORGANISED P**DOPHILE RINGS BY CHILDREN HAVE RIGHTS IN SOCIETY http://www.onlinepublishingcompany.info/content/read_more/complexInfobox/site_news/infobox/elements/template/default/active_id/1964 …
Can you try that Headline again?
Hic, hic, hic……….
Who don’t you f uk off about children’s “rights”? It’s not a question of rights. This is criminality of a high order.
At least Giovani is having a go at exposing these monsters, and by assocciation the one’s who were/are at it now.
Did I get a mention possums?
I’m mildly encouraged by the 2010 intake. Quite a lot of them have done things other than politics, and some of them seem to be able to think for themselves. They won’t solve all the problems, of course, but they do show signs of wanting to address some of them in the country’s interests.
Being stroppy about the EU budget increase isn’t quite the same as telling the EU to get stuffed, but at least it’s better than the usual trotting through the ‘aye’ lobby on whip’s instructions as yet another slice of sovereignty disappears to Brussels. Maybe there’s a sliver of hope yet.
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/bridget_phillipson/houghton_and_sunderland_south
Like this one? Worked for her mother in a man-hating battered wives home
Be thankful u didnt get her mother wants to burn books
Why is it that the 2010 intake have formed the 301 group under Kris Hopkins ?
According to “they work for you” the key players all want more EU integration.
No wonder Kris Hopkins “went off on one”. It is promises to him that he is worried about. Nothing to do with the voters.
Naughty Labour MP……….. but time to move on !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2229152/Labour-MP-Jamie-Reed-sparks-Twitter-storm-asking-woman-train-grown-moustache-Movember.html
Not a story for the BBC unless it’s a Tory MP
“Shadow health minister Jamie Reed was updating his 19,000 followers about an ‘obnoxious’ passenger on his train when he asked is she was ‘growing that for Movember’ – the cancer charity event which encourages men to grow a moustache in November.”
Hirsutism in women can be caused by a testosterone imbalance caused by ovarian cancer.
Goes to show what an ignorant fuckwit this man from the ‘nice’ Labour party is.
He’s just jealous because he can’t grow one himself.
Hirsutism in women can also be caused by too many shakes of the ugly stick
I hate Labour, but this was an off the cuff remark that is actually quite funny. I think i know why only 89 people singed the petition to address clause five in the justice bill.
Every faux outrage gives the political scum who lord it over us, another stick to beat us with. She/he insulted me sir, boo hoo. This sort of acerbic comment should be encouraged, it’s what we Brits do, we insult people using wit and humour, rather than go into some frothing at the mouth tirade, as a particular section of British society do.
we’re quite famous for it. And if we have any chance at all off stopping those who wish to see us all cowed and afraid to say anything lest it causes offence to anyone, trivial comments like are you growing that for movember, should be encouraged/ignored according to preference.
Claire Perry is welcome to lambast me any time. PIC
The Tories don’t get it do they? The same fate awaits them as the Republicans in the USA.
Cam-moron supports letting Turkey join the EU, just what we need 60 odd million Muslims and guess what Country a lot of them will be heading to? Cam-moron wants to keep the jocks who would rather vote for Jimmy Savile than a Tory.
Liebore like Obumma know that if you can let enough dross into your Country and get them hooked on benefits, you’ve got a built in majority. The ever more tiny group of white males that pay the bulk of the taxes simply get out voted.
If Cam-moron doesn’t do it he needs to be got rid of by the Tories before the next election.
They need to come down hard on the jocks to ensure they vote for independence, get the boundary changes sorted out and get the fuck out of the EU. Close down the borders and kick out the illegal dross.
Of course none of that will happen and all that will happen is out national debt will grow, the printing of money will continue, pensions will continue to decrease in value, those of us that work and pay taxes will have to work longer and probably never get to retire whilst women who never worked will be ‘given’ a pension for simply firing kids out of their c u nt z.
The NHS will continue to murder people at will (what is it they call it the Liverpool treatment or something? I didn’t see Danny Boyle include that at the Olympics) the politicians will keep sending white males off to fight wars no one can win and our education system will continue to turn out mongs.
Welcome to the new world order.
“Cam-moron wants to keep the jocks”
Camoron is, of course, himself a Jockanese twat.
Bliar, McRuin, Camoron; three high-tax, high-debt, high-spending socialist jockanese Europhile twats in succession, each hell-bent on fucking England.
And the next PM might be Milipede, witless imbecile puppet of Comrade Len McCluskey.
McCluskey.. hmm. Hell-bent of wrecking England and his name sounds a bit .. jockanese?
Certainly sounds like a c u n t
60 Wasn’t he actually called Leon Maicountski, but changed his name…?
Mac is Scottish, Mc denotes Irish ancestry.
right on dude, they are so like, totally different
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/40-percent-of-us-muslim-voters-want-islamic-law-12-percent-want-death-for-blasphemers/
Sounds reasonable to me, lets import millions more of them.
Dissension in the ranks! Rather rum show, chaps! Don’t you think it’s about time we put that sick old dog Democracy out of its misery?
Now here’s what I call a 1922 Committee!
Would that be Oswald Mosley, the fervent Fabian and Labour MP for Smethwick or Oswald Mosley, the jackboot-wearing Hitler-wannabe Fascist? Oh wait—!
You don’t take away the socialist when you make national socialism, you just modify the group to pick on.
As long as the trains run on time who cares?
F*ck socialism to hell and back. The most poisonous, murderous and divisive creed ever to take root. It’s political bindweed and eventually kills off all competing plantlife, if it is allowed to grow and prosper.
Why the fuck have the BBC got Shami Shitmyknickers on the BBC telling ‘us’ who should be running the Police?
This thick fucking bitch has never stood for election and has no political mandate. so why does she think she’s got any right to try to dictate policy?
Me neither
It’s ridiculous, isn’t it?
Too right. Anyone would think she was a high representative of the EU.
She is of the left. She exists to tell us little people what to do.
I’ll never forget her ranting about immigration on Question time, how we must do this, we have to do that.
She used to be quite tasty but, like a lot of these sun-tanned women, she’s not winterised very well.
She was never that tasty.
oi do u mind, you’re infringing me yuma rites!
I have on many occasions been the victim of child abuse.
I believe this lady works on television:
http://i50.tinypic.com/rjo27a.jpg
She works for Sky, she’d never get a job at the BBC looking like that. This is more the BBC type
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/polly100806_228x270.jpg
That’s that Roger Scruton, isn’t it?
More like Roger Scruton’s scrutum.
Speak English c u n t
4 eyed bellend
I guess I will pay for this when the Eurostasi get hold of me
Saying bad things, upsetting things or defametory things, are crimes against tolerance and should be punished severely. Hand yourslf in for re-education at your nearest correct thought institution.
Schroom niet en eet wat gif.
..did gyre and gimble etc…
Someone should tell him that isn’t Prince Philip
Fuckin’ Twitter is all double-Dutch.
Doesn’t Dutch look just like German? Why, it’s practically the same language.
Anyway, roughly translated: “I say, I say, I say! My obedient English poodle Camoron’s got no nose! How does he smell? Who cares, so long as he keep sending me fifty three million pounds each and every day, which he will.”
A nation of homos and other Lutheran nonces who cant wait to try the latest brand of skunk
I pray for high tides so that the lot of them are wiped out
Filth!
Is that Beethoven’s Choral Symphony I hear in the background?
They are a fine people, the Dutch, and you sir are extremely wrong!
The stupid fucker has been scammed. That’s not my father.
How doi you think Prince Harry feels?
Or indeed lantern Jawed freind of Paedos Prince Andrew
Except H@rry was born long before Diana ever met the galloping major and red hair is a trait of the Spencer family. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your vindictive bile.
One famous 1971 D notice is related to the Baker Street robbery;
it is believed that main purpose of this request was to protect a prominent member of the British Royal Family, because some of the security boxes contained embarrassing material.
…..
is it time we knew of stuff that embarrasses the royal family.
establishment closes rank when it suits them. we can remain like children or grow up.
The Bank Job, really good film.
Why do the Eu leaders like to pose with flags? It’s all so communist in tone.
This is how to do it freedom style not Soviet Style
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/61782000/jpg/_61782079_61776849.jpg
Who’s the guy on the right from Are you Being Served?
He’s the odd man out.
They get €100,000 per flag they appear with – probably
I just had a meeting with Prince Philip. We have exchanged views on Europe, Asia and the world. pic.twitter.com/oAkKfnl0
http://webtranslation.paralink.com/Dutch-English-Translation/
‘We exchanged views on Europe, Asia and the world.’
Prince Philip: ‘So you’re the bugger who’s in charge of Europe. I’ve seen better things than you in a Burmese shithouse. Do the world a favour and top yourself.’
I have a feeling old Rompuy would not have lasted a minute with our Prince Philip. Given what the EUSSR has done to Greece.
vier ogen slijm gevuld testikel
Ach lik a shmoke und a panckake..
I like gooooooooolddd!!
Meanwhile Greece burns…
It would be a treat to see the savages of Hull elect that pound(ours)land nonce Queening it about with flashing blue lights just as Cottager B
lair does
Those that dont have flat caps to doff should be issued with them
Inbred North Yorkshire scum
‘as ‘ull hemigrated?
North Yorkshire? it’s on t’oomber
Maude caught..err…what’s the word…oh yeah…lying. Again. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20224736 …
You don’t need the bullit, when you got the ballot.
Ali Akbar
Nad ain’t so mad after all. She’s defecting to UKIP.
Speculation grows that she could use the TV exposure to defect to UKIP
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228512/Im-A-Celebrity-line-2012-Nadine-Dorries-reveals-jungle-outfit.html
there’s just too much public defecation these days
I am Tommy the Turtle get me out of here
I am a very important person and you are a fucking Pleb. Let Me out of here.
Nadine, Louise and Claire – who spanks whom?
silly little women
Nads is defecting to UKIP thereby confirming she has gone completely Radio Rental.
I bet Nigel is excited at the prospect of working with Nads. And who could blame him?
Very tiresome.
New political thriller Secret State on Channel 4 at 10pm. Gabriel Byrne stars as a deputy PM who, for some reason, is made to bear a striking resemblance to Gordon Brown. It’s based on A Very British Coup.
Stupid girl.She’s nearly as bad as louise minge.
Jocks+immigrants+benefit claimants+public sector+unreformed boundaries = permanent Labour majority.
Indeed!
Pack the country with Latinos, now the biggest majority and who mainly vote Democrat
i wish my head would stop growing
Here’s hoping it doesn’t grow to the size of the deficit you and I left behind.
To Global proportions.
Who cares if they scrap like rats in a sack?
Where’s a real Tory in that load of cack?
If Camo’s the best of their very best
What more need you know about all the rest?
There was an MP for Devizes
Whose ***s were of two different sizes
The one that was small
Was no use at all
But the other was huge and won prizes.
There was a clown in Downing Street
World-famous for his two left feet
When he tried to walk whilst chewing gum
It induced vibrations in his bum
And caused his brain to over-heat
The 5th line is a load of sheet.
The first mates name was Mabel
By God she was quite able
she gave the crew their daily do
upon the chart room table
Come now, Sparkler, it was the captain’s daughter
Renowned for doing what she hadn’t oughter
The Good Ship Venus is the classic ode
Check the captain’s fitness to shift his load
You have left me with an albatross around my neck.
It was an ancient Alabatross
Who said, ‘You caused the wreck
By shooting me and hanging me
Around your bloody neck.’
“It is an ancient mariner,
And he stoppeth one of three…”
Sounds like a few goalkeepers I’ve seen.
Old but regenerated.
There was a middle aged woman called Nadine
Who had a most peculiar feelin
She lay on her back
opened her craick
and pi55ed all over the celing
Thank god Twitter cover has been organised, was it put in place by COBRA?.
For once, ‘twitpic’ seems remarkably apposite.
Quite right.
At least she is enjoying herself and not pretending to be who she is not, unlike the majority of MPs.
What she is doing is very risky though but one thing Nadine is not and that is naive.
Hope it works out for her and I’m sure she is doing this on a wing and a prayer.
Dave is a total arse for sacking Nads. She’s going to be hugely popular. Just for once he had a winner but he’s blown it because some pathetic focus group told him she is disgraceful for neglecting her constituency – as if her absence will make a jot of difference.
Boris would have seen the potential. He wouldn’t have blown it.
Shhhh. If everyone realised that MPs make no difference to anything at all, whether in Parliament or somewhere in the jungle, people would start asking why we have them. And then where’d we all be?
She looks like Howard’s Marina out of Last of the Summer Wine
I’d like to meet President Romany for a photo op in the kitchen.
You will always find him in the kitchen at parties…with a brick.
They don’t like it up ‘em!
Who the hell is this clara woman?.
Claim to fame for her anyone ?.
The 53 that she complains about,are as far as I am concerned are on the right track.
The EUSSR budget is a 18 teen year unacountable waste of taxpayers cash which is a disgrace.
When are these EUSSR assholes going to be held accountable?.
These troughers are the dregs of what we are supposed to have in a civilised society.
Completely unelected,and this is democracy,don’t make me laugh.
Cammoron needs to grow a pair and quick to take this country out of this asshole called the EUSSR.
How many times is our leader going to bury his head in the sand,in the belief that the electorate are wrong.
Makes me think what he thinks is in it for him.
Politicians today are completely in it for themselves and not for the people they represent.
+1
If you are Saffron Burrows can we have some pics of you rug munching?
Yo! Suck my motherfucking dick!
I did !
Bloody hell. Never knew Clive Dunn was once a fascist and a member of Mosley’s Black Shirts. I saw him do a song-and-dance routine with Kinnock on the 83 election campaign trail. Is nothing from my childhood sacred?
When I met Kinnock, I asked him what Glynis was like in bed, and he said “She don’t like it up her.”
Heres an extra helping of sausage Mrs Kinnock
Mr Kinnock is Busy in Wrexham
Dont panic
Jimmy savile is with him
50/50 sounds pretty polarised to me.
Miliband is talking about lefty unity, which roughly translated means “rub their faces in it”.
Romney has 40,057,116 votes while Obama has 38,999,331 per CBS News.
http://www.nationalledger.com/politics-crime/who-won-the-popular-vote-us-485588.shtml
Ignore. The Yanks vote on whose wife has the nicest dress.
Strange thing American democracy is
In four years Obama will be as popular as a fart in a lift.
Go join him, big fella. He can use someone like you around. It’s not like I’m going to have you in Cabinet when I get in, two-and-a-half years from now. Maazel tov.
Does George Monbiot comprehend the words you contradictory climate change nutter – when he speaks of gossip sites and suffers temporary amnesia about the Scientific facts?
Als heimers must be catching up with the inverted logic of Monbiot.
Do you want them out ?
Dave needs a rethink on the EU. The Major years will come back to haunt him!
And at the dinner for Dave and Frau Merkel , venison and some german cake for afters , make of that what you will , but just hope dave can use an impressive set of antlers when it comes down to it , I had to laugh greece is getting a bailout having just agreed to an austeity pacakge , note this bailout will be used to stop greece from defaulting on its next debt interest payment , so its all still lending pea under the cup manouver .
Although at this juncture Dave has made his position quite clear , only inflation increase somthing like an extra £3mn a day , lets not forget the £40bn to the IMF (safe as houses returns ?) I must have got it all wrong then we can afford to be held upside down have our pockets emptied and spanked on the arse , without any adverse wealth effects
Whilst I do perhaps feel in the mood for a rant , I was struck by aunty matters post num 46 . I will await the new archbishops answers to a few important questions before contemplating a rush to the armoury , he does on the face of it look quite an interesting new strand in the midst of all the forment at the CofE , whilst considering myself somthing of a traditionalist , in part because of the continuation of the ministry and sacrements , as being more finely worked to comprehend in a lifetime , I will be interested to see if he has some thoughts for those of us that have tried very hard to explain to the reformers , that they are throwing away very important details , that help you to encounter the many facets of the Bible . I can see how very intelligent people arrived at pop church , it was perhaps a hangover from the 70s , I sigh at the iniatives of pleasing the youth with such a thin theological meal, or even those who want some sort of happy pop hybrid , where sermons relate more and more to fictions on TV programs . You simply cannot understand the teachings of jesus without comprehending the thread of Israel through the Old Testament , the Bible is not just the New Testament , if that were so the church would condone all the failings of the Old testament , that are still repeated today . There are profound understandings in the Bible and good tutors and scholars make all the difference , even though some see the church as dying , although one could perhaps rephrase that argument , into evaluating what has conspired to make it irrelevent . I am currently reading Pope Benedicts Jesus of Nazereth , which has been an enourmous encourage ment , in my skirmishes with those within the church who have not valued the long journey properly.
I say this as Wall street reaction to Obamas victory was swift , indeed some republicans seem to be promoting a headless chickens media front about having to learn from the Obama drubbing , and talk of easing out the nutter christians and becoming a sort of easy chair party , throw a few hoops , smoke some weed , all be what the new Reblican party should be aiming at , well not eaxctly . The reaction to a defeat can be short term thought . Peter Obourne and Damian Thompson have perhaps sensed this divided America and plotted the outcome , which is a step to dangerous and delibating fear , that modernity has created, irrelevance for the church and the legislatures reflection on the Bible .
This erosion has perhaps been going on for some time , I recall when Lord Bragg (a Christian ) made his program about the end of the 10 commandements a few years ago , and his substitute 10 in there place . Of course to inform the public of the ten commandments , would sound alien as I doubt most people could recall more than three . We are talking about 1500 yrs of belief that has delivered pretty much most of the science and wealth thought , you simply cannot say Uh Huh throwing a few hoops and smoking some weed is anything like the long processession of the christian faith through time . We of course have educated people with no faith , who are free to play around with , its theories and equations and pose new concepts , which seem to conspire that God isnt really there , as we can do all these things by our own godless minds efforts . That does not however in any way prove that what I or many Millions of others percieve is God , and more importantly an enduring truth about Jesus that goes beyond , what ever intellectual fashions hold sway in mere lifespans of earthly promotions.
The USA has a holiday I think for the founding fathers , who landed on plymouth Rock , they were devoutely Christian people , there was of course a troubled history from then to today , but none the less a Christian current has run the USA , it is not and never has been a mere stage prop in that countrys impressive success . So for the Republicans to be even considering the Christians as a danger to electoral success , shows perhaps a subconcious problem with what culturally that country has become . Something is perhaps vying with belief and faith , contesting it . It has won this round , but then again it hasnt really had proper evaluation as an opponent , godless success is perhaps spin , you deliver certain points to convince of the truth . As we have seen with Obama , hes got hope , the best is yet to come …. by the bucketload , which all well and good people have bought into his promise and his vision in its evangelical typically American style , Jesus story is quite different , great care with his words , not offering nation state prosperity , but freedom from the poverity of sin for the individual . Mass is not like being a political party member , your political beliefs are shaped by it , you cannot shape the true christian faith to any sucessful conclusion by politics. It ends in disaster as the connection to the source is contested suffering and stressed.
Dave likes the idea of gay marriage so does George and so does Nick , they have arrived at it by making the tragic mistake that eqaulity in law will somehow make life that much easier as there will not be any predjudice , they quite fancy this approach to other apsects of the law as though equality will super every other intention of the law. In short the refer to perfect manual approach . They vie for the perfect crafting of the words that will make us all equal by a belief in will and laywers , rather than a consideration that the holy spirit is complete since it was first given at pentecost . The holy spirit is not a progessive political , sociological manual , it is not a court it does not have beaurocrats , it is free to all those who seek properly its payment .
That freedom that is at the heart of both republican and conservative thinking , it is co op and not a socialogical conscription . A co op of agreement , fair dealings , civic function for all , to carry forward success and waryness of failing of its component parts .
When a political party is trying to discerne what sort of Jesus they want to encourage , then that ultimately is truly out of there hands , for the ones that have understood jesus will be the winners , not in the razamtazz of one evening of elections , but in the way they live there lives .
Jo Biden is well respect politican and devout Roman Catholic , yet he has been party to the beating of the religous sirens about the debt , a debt that children not bourn yet in the USA will be paying for , a debt that will affect peoples real hope in being free of a socialogical construct . I could say the same about the son of the manse although I dont think he was respected .
So whats the real problem with the USA , well its legisalture has become full of people who can no longer explain where they have come from , its full of argument and not debate , full of people who have got used to acting in a certain way , certain corruptions have become normal as so many new ways of not being able to carry the right thoughts about how to serve its people .
I mean with weed shops opening up and gay marriage , clearly piety has died and replaced with tempory excitements , complete with dont be a square dude message to the church . I suppose the beginnings of ruin to a society have there evangelists as well , Its just very unfortunate that so much effort will be lost in letting time decide , as it has done before . If the republicans feel that they too must now manufacture idiots that can be controlled by how good they are feeling on what ever they can input as thought and forgetting all about that Bible nonsense , the truly the story of the USA had its last bow to its people and the world , last night .
А lоng аrgυmеnt whіch hоlds tоgеthеr wеll bυt whіch іs pеrfеctly cаpаblе іn bеіng rе-еxprеssеd оυtsіdе оf іts rеlіgіоυs cоntеxt, sаvе іn еxplаіnіng hоw wе gоt tо thіs pоіnt dυе tо thе cоυrsе оf hіstоry.
Аs а nоn-thеіst (nоt аn аthеіst! І аm nоt fυndаmеntаlіst іn аny wаy), І rеfυsе tо аccеpt thаt my аpprоаch іs nоt cаpаblе оf bеіng dеlіvеrеd wіthоυt mоrаlіty аnd thаt thе Gоldеn Rυlе (іntеrеstіngly іnvеrtеd by Аlfrеd thе Grеаt) prоvіdеs а gооd аnd sυffіcіеnt bаsіs fоr аlmоst аny wоrthwhіlе еthіcаl systеm оnе wоυld wіsh tо dіscоvеr.
Thе trаppіngs оf rеlіgіоn, pаrtіcυlаrly thе Ρаυlіnе dеvеlоpеd vеrsіоn оf Chrіstіаnіty wіth іts trаnsυbstаntіаtіоn, оrіgіnаl sіn, vіrgіn bіrth, аssυmptіоn оf thе vіrgіn аnd аll sоrts оf оthеr аbsυrdіtіеs rіght dоwn tо pаpаl іnfаllіbіlіty, іs thаt mυch оf іt wаs іntrоdυcеd fоr а vеry bаd nоn-thеіstіc pυrpоsе, оnе thаt wе аrе dеdіcаtеd tо оn thіs sіtе, pоlіtіcаl prоsеlytіsаtіоn аnd pоwеr.
Іt sυppоrts thе cоntеntіоn thаt fаіth аnd rеаsоn dо nоt mіx. Wе dеcіdеd lоng аgо thаt chυrch аnd stаtе shоυld bе kеpt sеpаrаtеly аnd thе Аmеrіcаns іmprоvеd оn thіs, аt lеаst іn thеоry, whіlst іn thе rеаl wоrld tаkіng nо nоtіcе оf thіs еvеn tо thе еxtеnt оf prіntіng Іn Gоd wе trυst оn thеіr bаnknоtеs, а lυdіcrоυsly іncоnsіstеnt аssеrtіоn whіch υndеrmіnеs thеіr sυpеrіоr sееmіng sеcυlаrіty. Аt lеаst wе hаvе Chаrlеs Dаrwіn іnstеаd bυt thеn wе fаіl by hаvіng bіshоps іn оυr υppеr chаmbеr whеrе lеss thаn 10% оf thе pоpυlаtіоn аrе аdhеrеnts. Hеr Mаjеsty’s rоlеs аs Hеаd оf Stаtе аnd Hеаd оf thе Chυrch (υncоmbіnеd) dоеs sυffіcе.
Fаіth іs jυst thаt – оnе еіthеr hаs іt оr оnе dоеs nоt. Іt іs nоt sυscеptіblе tо rеаsоn аnd hаs thυs lеаd tо cоυntlеss dеаths іn іts nаmе. Rеаsоn shоυld bе thе оnly drіvеr оf оυr pоlіtіcаl dіscоυrsе. Thе Rеpυblіcаns jυst cаnnоt sее thаt. Fоr аll іts cоnsіdеrаblе fаіlіngs, thе Gеnеrаl Synоd іs lеss lіkеly tо bе lооkеd υpоn аs thе Cоnsеrvаtіvе pаrty аt prаyеr іn thе lаst dеcаdе.
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Thеrе іs а rеspоnsе tо yоυr rаnt whіch, іn yоυr tеrms, іs cυrrеntly rеsіdіng іn pυrgаtоry.
Dear old Not, do you ever not feel in the mood for a rant?
Only on Wednesdays , so I think I have cut down considerbaly
There is a response to your rant which, in your terms, is currently residing in purgatory.
Admit it, we all want to see Nads showering in the waterfall just a little bit…
One for Nads :
Giant for a Day:
you couldn’t make this up
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9662546/Bishop-of-Durham-Justin-Welby-to-be-Archbishop-of-Canterbury.html
Eton educated former Oil executive – brilliant – preaching at the altar of the fucking tories – hahahaha – all he needs is some experience in a bank and he’s have the ‘hat-trick’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A load of rubbish, Camoron is still showing how left-wing he is, he’s just following Liebour tradition of appointing a hanger on in place of someone who can actually be of use, no change please move along.
so what does Cameron know about dementia?
Cameron will say: “Through the Dementia Friends project, we will for the first time make sure a million people know how to spot those telltale signs and provide support. There is still a long way to go in fighting the disease, but together we can improve the lives of millions.”
He’s killing them all off – is that what he means by improvement????
Er, no, your beloved fucking NHS is doing the killing off bit.
No, no. He’s absolutely right. Cameron has instigated a secret death squad to go around the country killing off dementia sufferers. It’s a wing of the same outfit that goes around snatching babies for T*ries to eat.
A muslim at work said he had the whole Koran on DVD. I thought it’d be interesting to check it out so asked him to burn me a copy & thats when it all kicked off
ROFL!
Prime Minister, Mayor of London, next King but one and next Archbishop of Canterbury all went to the same school!
It must be a hell of a good school.
Gordon, Gordon
You’re ugly
That’s what we all think of you
It is funny how certain people applaud rebels for “speaking their own mind” and “acting for their constituents rather than the whips”, but then attack loyalists for doing exactly the same thing….
This lady obviously needs a lengthy spell in the jungle.