November 5th, 2012

Labour’s Living Wage Living a Lie

He needed to think of something to prove his One Nation credentials, and yesterday Ed Miliband revealed to Jane Merrick that Labour’s great predistribution hope would be a living wage of at least £7.20 an hour. To mark the beginning of ‘Living Wage Week’ Guido is looking into how Labour’s new flagship policy is implemented by themselves.

This morning Brent Labour Party, home to Barry Gardiner and Glenda Jackson, are advertising for a two day-a-week campaign intern “to assist with preparations for the 2014 local elections and the 2015 general election”. The lucky candidate’s responsibilities will include writing press releases, updating the website, drafting letters and other admin jobs. And how much will they be forking out for what certainly appears to be real job? A grand total of zero pounds an hour.

Brent Labour join the likes of Stella CreasyChuka Umunna and Tony Blair as past and present MPs guilty of unpaid intern hypocrisy. Guido would also like to know how much Labour HQ pays its young staffers. MPs receive over £130,000 to spend on staffing, so they can afford to pay those who work for them. Recruiting ambitious unpaid ‘volunteers’ and then pontificating about the lack of social mobility amongst those of low income households is simply rank hypocrisy.


144 Comments

  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    Labour in hypocrisy shocker!

    Do they pay people when they go out and deliver leaflets (living wage) as well?

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    • 20
      Plato says:

      So, by definition, Ed’s saying the minimum wage New Labour introduced isn’t enough to live on?

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    • 40
      Wayne and Waynetta, bless! says:

      Nah – fuck that! – no fuckin good anyway – we wants us bennys!

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    • 52
      Fish says:

      BBC Toady prog had something about this, this morning.

      Some economist, or other, was answering questions put by Toady’s insufferably snooty, priggish, toffish lefty posh bird, Sarah Montague (she who forgot to mention that the ‘Government’ as she decribed them that failed to act on the ash tree warnings was the last LABOUR GOVERNMENT).

      Just as he was getting into his stride, saying that the living wage had to be paid for and what it was likely to cost, she suddenly lost interest and summarily cut him off in his prime.

      Perhaps he was going to say that Miliband’s magic money tree had been found to have a fungus and would need to be cut down.

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      • 83
        Terrible But True says:

        ” (she who forgot to mention that the ‘Government’ as she decribed them that failed to act on the ash tree warnings was the last LABOUR GOVERNMENT).”

        As the ongoing Savile fallout is showing, Alzheimers, albeit of a highly selective variety, is rife through the upper, market rates echelons of the country’s most trusted editorial filtering service.

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    • 78
      Terrible But True says:

      ‘Labour in hypocrisy shocker!’

      Oddly this has not yet made it to the BBC broadcast waves that I have heard.

      Maybe they are ‘prioritising’ stories again?

      Newsnight hasn’t budged on twitter or FaceBook (its sole outlets for ‘interactivity’ now) since Thursday.

      Mind you, they seem to be a bit ‘off’ quoting the Indy on occasion.

      Can’t think why.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/is-something-strange-going-on-at-the-bbc-8280629.html

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    • 93
      M says:

      The living bribe instead of policies

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  2. 2
    anonymouse says:

    But in this case is isn’t a wage; Labour interns don’t expect to be paid just yet, they expect to be put on the Candidates list then get into Westminster.

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    • 15
      Selohesra says:

      Labour don’t need to pay this wage – they will simply vote for higher benefits paid for by me – grrrrr

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    • 91
      smoggie says:

      So do they still claim benefits? In other words the state is paying for the Labour Party’s interns. Another form of Pilgrimisation by the look of it.

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  3. 3
    jgm2 says:

    Useless Ned looks like he’s about to burst into tears.

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  4. 4
    Aunty Matter says:

    It makes perfect sense. By not paying interns it ensures you don’t get plebs from working class families. Instead you get nice while middle class kids from private schools who read the Guardian. Their parents can afford to have their kids working for rich politicians for nothing.

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    • 22
      jgm2 says:

      Yep. Same as they can afford to send them off on a round-the-world gap year that include a three month ‘environmental experience’ counting butterflies in the Amazon or fish on the Barrier Reef or building a school in Malawi. Genuine ‘experiences’ that have to be paid for.

      Like those ‘charity’ parachute jumps.

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    • 31
      The General Public says:

      Exactly. The last kind of people Labour MPs want around them are proletarian losers who need to earn money.

      (And by calling the positions “voluntary” they avoid inconveniencing themselves with that dreary ‘workers rights’ legislation their party saddled proper businesses with.)

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  5. 5
    Steve Miliband says:

    Emily Burditt @ecburditt

    National Minimum Wage rate before tax (£12,875.20 pa) is higher than the Living Wage rate after tax (£12,715.72 pa). Time to cut tax?
    Retweeted by Old Holborn

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    • 14
      Man o' the People says:

      What’s the National Minimum Wage AFTER tax Steve?

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    • 16
      Plato says:

      How is it relevant to reduce one for tax but not the other and then compare them?

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    • 58
      jgm2 says:

      If the ‘living wage’ after tax is £12,715 then why didn’t Labour set the tax-free threshold at £12,715?

      What is the point of taxing a ‘living wage’?

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      • 75
        barrowboy says:

        To pay for more MP’s exes.

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      • 101
        NE Frontiersman says:

        Too simple: can anyone say how the single person’s tax allowance has kept up/fallen behind inflation over the last 35 years? When I was at Uni my full grant (£845)equated to the SPTA, and was pretty manageable. ( It struck me as crazy even then, however)

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  6. 6
    Anonymous says:

    Meanwhile in Brent, your old friend Sarah Teather is advertising for a paid internship.

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  7. 7
    Millionaire Via Illegal Immigration says:

    The photo says it all, Marxist commie genes, Blair like champagne socialist millionaire money lover in reality.

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  8. 8
    Steve Miliband says:

    They have a wage for London and a wage for the rest – so are they accepting regional pay bargaining?

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  9. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Truly a bunch of hypocrites. Will they be proposing that the stealth job tax they call NI, which kicks in around the 20 hour mark of this so called Living Wage for both employer and employee, is removed?

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  10. 10
    ToneCunt and Phoney says:

    I love this “BIG Society” thing… We’re all in it together, the mega rich (like me) and the unpaid workers who do our donkey work. Why do you think I was attracted to the Roman way of things.

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  11. 11
    Romford stu says:

    But, but….4 legs good, 2 legs bad…

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  12. 12
    jgm2 says:

    Labour’ s own attempts at introducing an HQ living wage almost ban*kru*pted the party…

    They almost ban*kru*pted the UK too. If we weren’t in the ‘fortunate’ position of being able to print our own money we’d be as ban*kru*pt as Greece.

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    • 63
      Mornington Crescent says:

      If the Labour gov. hadn’t encouraged unfettered immigration, forcing up the supply of labour and thus forcing down the price, we wouldn’t need any of this meddling in the market. We could also force some of those currently on bennies to take jobs, however menial.

      Don’t these politicians have even a simple grasp of supply and demand?

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  13. 13
    genghiz the kahn says:

    For sale one pre-owned Milliebandwagon.

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    • 25
      Bottom Gear says:

      …and I bet it’s a gas guzzling Chelsea tractor type 4×2 hypocrisy wagon complete with black privacy glass!

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  14. 16
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Oh what a surprise, Ed’s puppet masters are in on this campaign.

    http://www.unison.org.uk/livingWage/index.asp

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  15. 18
    Piers of Acacia Avenue Surrey says:

    He looks just like my paper boy, he does not earn much.

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  16. 19
    Kebab,a right wing troll says:

    Happy sodding Guy Fawkes night.

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  17. 21
    Grimy Miner says:

    If you are unemployed and claiming benefit (JSA) one of the rules is that you “must be available for work”. If you then take an unpaid internship and still claim benefit you are in breach of the rules as you are patently NOT available for work. Therefore the net result is that you are working for no pay and for no benefit?

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    • 30
      not paying any more says:

      Are any of the current unpaid interns claiming benefits? I think we should be told

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      • 66
        ÁC1 says:

        A parental welfare hammock is just as damaging as a state one, for the recipients at least.

        Unfunded income from Trust funds seem to create lefty mongs.

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        • 82
          jgm2 says:

          You could be right there. I look at my own cosseted kids whose every whim is catered for and worry about the day when they have to get a job and face the reality of just how much it costs to live a lifestyle they’re used to on 10% of the income.

          I’ve seriously (and increasingly) am considering engineering a hard landing and pulling them out of St Cakes and sticking ‘em in the local comp just so they fully understand the fuckwits they’ll be dealing with if they don’t grab the opportunities available to them.

          It’s a tough one though.

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    • 124
      Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

      As I am over 65 my benefits are as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar!

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  18. 23

    ‘Old Aarfy has never paid for it’.

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  19. 28
    Jimmy says:

    “MPs receive over £130,000 to spend on staffing, so they can afford to pay those who work for them.”

    And this should be spent on campaigning?

    It’s an argument I suppose.

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    • 39
      jgm2 says:

      Are you suggesting that most MPs (of all colours) don’t already use the 130K towards campaigning?

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      • 102
        Jimmy says:

        I keep forgetting to dumb it down here.

        As the brighter righties (and there are one or two) will have spotted, I’m pointing out that Guido oddly enough seems to be complaining about public funds not being used to fund election workers.

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        • 115
          jgm2 says:

          If it’s dumb down here it is only because we must try and judge a level you might understand. I see I’m still not aiming low enough.

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          • Jimmy says:

            You’ve been posting cretinous gibberish all this time just for me? That’s so sweet.

            You can stop now.

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  20. 29
    Thrasher Mitchell says:

    Samantha Cameron has confirmed reports that she has had cosmetic surgery on her arse hole.David’s had a hair transplant.

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  21. 32
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Deadwood will claim that The Living Wage is voluntary, but why is a Labour council compelling firms to pay it?

    “1. Forcing firms to pay the living wage if they want to bid for public sector contracts. Islington council did this when it awarded its ground maintenance contract to Enterprise, he says. All 80 Enterprise staff are now on the living wage, at a cost to the company of £150,000. Miliband says the company absorbed the entire cost, which was just a fraction of the value of the £20m contract.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2012/nov/05/boris-johnson-miliband-living-wage-live

    Someone should remind Boris that this is one of Ed’s cunning stunts, which will backfire when the details emerge.

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    • 42
      Are your numbers right, Ed? says:

      “Our team in Islington has broadened the work we do for the Borough by winning the grounds maintenance contract, which adds to our current waste management services.

      We were successful in winning all the four lots available at a total value of £12m over the first term. The work starts on 1 January 2009 and is for an initial four years with scope for extensions.

      90 employees will be transferring to Enterprise to carry out the services.”

      http://www.enterprise.plc.uk/news/article.aspx?NewsId=55

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  22. 33
    jgm2 says:

    The single biggest outgoing for most working people is accommodation. Food pr*ices go up 10% and there’s hell on.

    House pr*ices go up 10% and the country punches the air in delight.

    It’s fucking insanity.

    We don’t need higher wages. We need cheaper homes. Instead of attempting to buy the (deliberately limited) available housing by working longer and longer hours or demanding more and more money how about we simply make houses cheaper. By either cranking up interest rates or building a few million more of the fuckers. Or, since Ir*el*and seems to have a million spare homes the UK government could buy the lot at 10p in the pound and ship all our council tenants over there.

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    • 50
      Cheap as chips says:

      You can buy a bungalow in Newark for £120,000. Pocket money.

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    • 105
      Jimmy says:

      So putting up interest rates would reduce peoples’ housing costs?

      Are you Gideon by any chance?

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      • 108
        JH says:

        I’d rather be paying 7% on £100’000, than 3% on £200’000.

        Simply, I can pay off the capital quicker in the first scenario.

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        • 110
          jgm2 says:

          He has the national psychosis. Cheap food good. Cheap flights good. Cheap fuel good. Cheap electricals good. Cheap housing BAD.

          It’s his inner Daily Mail reader bursting out.

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      • 109
        jgm2 says:

        Paid too much for your house did you?

        Want the next generation to do the same just to bail you out?

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    • 106
      JH says:

      Once interest rates start to rise, and they will, house prices will drop like a fucking stone. Never before has a series of governments tried to keep the prices of the same old piles of bricks so inflated, so various twats can feel ‘rich’.

      The inevitable implosion will not be pretty for homeowners, many of whom are already underwater on the mortgage, having bought in/remortgaged at the top of the market.

      The reason transactions are so low right now is not only that few people can buy, but that many homeowners literally cannot afford to sell, as it would involve giving the mortgage company tens of thousands of pounds.

      The (increasing) millions currently priced out of a sensible home purchase will see a drop in prices slightly differently.

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    • 125
      Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

      When you say ship them to Israel are you specifically referring to the m*uzzie ones? If so then it won’t affect Merseyside much.

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      • 130
        Anonymous says:

        here in Spain they dropped 40% and guess what they are now beginning to sell again ,it ain’t rocket science.

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      • 135
        bxlls says:

        @98% ffs it was not Is*r*a*l, it was Ir*el*and ,so where does that leave you,in the clever stakes?

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    • 141
      ukfred says:

      Cut housing benefit and watch the prices fall off a cliff, especially the buy-to-let repossessions.

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  23. 34
    Tom Catesby says:

    ‘Internship’, isn’t this another reason why millions of ordinary folk view all the major political parties with growing suspicion and distrust? Nobody from the real world outside the metropolitan political centres can afford to work for nothing, regardless of their personal views. Only members of the,’never had a real job brigade’ who cynically see this as a stepping stone to a, position as a full time professional politician and greedy boot filler, waiting to be ‘parachuted in’ to be inflicted on the next available constituency, will fill these roles.

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    • 47
      jgm2 says:

      My kids are at St Cakes. They’re now at the stage where the missus is getting sounded out by other parents for a plum placement for little Toby or little Annabel for their CV. But what is very noticeable is that a lot of kids are simply being ‘placed’ in daddy’s firm. And a lot of the kids seem to want to follow exactly the same career path as daddy. Solicitor. Architect. Whatever.

      At St Cakes it seems that we’ve adopted the French model of careers running in the family.

      When I went to school the last thing my parents wanted was for us to have the same shitty jobs as them but they were unusual. Most of my peers had parents who didn’t have any aspiration at all for their kids and just wanted them to affirm their shitty life by having the self same shitty existence.

      I’m quite surprised to find that a lot of the middle classes don’t have any great ambition for their kids beyond affirming their station in life either. Be middle class. Do middle class stuff.

      I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s not a class thing at all. It is that most British people don’t want to be shown up by their kids.

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  24. 35
    Wok Gon says:

    Nice tie!

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  25. 37
    Broadsword calling Danny Boy says:

    Wunashun!

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  26. 41
    George says:

    Is he proposing pensioners get £7.20 per hour ???

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  27. 44
    Synic says:

    Many of the interns are baby shampain socialists.
    Mother Nature has issued them with defective genes.
    Evolution requires that they starve — unfortunately they won’t, as they will be supported by their hypocritical liebour parents with money stolen from ordinary working taxpayers.
    All are leftie tossers as Boris wisely stated.

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    • 56
      Benny Fitz-Clements says:

      From this has developed the idea, fostered by the left in general and by Gordon Brown in particular, that we are all children of the state and should therefore be given pocket money whenever the paternalistic government fancies. The state, particularly under Brown, has very cunningly used our own money to turn us all into dependants waiting for our handouts.

      And it’s not just child-benefit handouts, which are paid for almost 14m children. Above and beyond that, in 2010-11 nearly 45% of non-retired households in the UK received a cash handout other than child benefit — an increase of more than 1m households in 10 years. That’s nearly half of us with our hands out.

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  28. 45
    Socialists = Sociopaths says:

    Hypocrisy and mendacity – it’s in Libor’s D-N-A.

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  29. 46
    nellnewman says:

    £7.20 minimum wage .It’s just so much hot air to please his union paymasters and keep them passing money his way.

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  30. 48
    Bunch of perverts says:

    Did Harman really campaign to have age of consent abolished?

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  31. 53
    Gordon Brown says:

    £7.20 per hour is more than I earn on the lecture circuit.

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    • 67
      jgm2 says:

      Seriously. In what world are we living where an incompetent who, it is now apparent to even his previously most ardent of supporters, practically ban*kru*pted an entire nation, can be paid a single cent for an after-dinner speech?

      Who are these organisations who phone up ‘The Office of Gordon and Sarah Brown’ and say ‘Do you know Gordon, you did such a magnificent job running the UK economy we’d like you to come and tell us how you did it…’?

      Who the fuck are they?

      Apparently William Hague is a good laugh as an after dinner spe*aker and George Best was supposed to be a good laugh as an after dinner spe*aker. But Gordon Brown? He’s neither funny nor informative.

      It has to be money-laundering (possibly for services rendered). Bogus organisations renting a hotel room in out of the way venues, giving away tickets to try and generate an audience. It’s MacShanes expenses on a grand scale.

      What other rational explanation is there?

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      • 79
        He saved the world's banking system says:

        It is strange, but true – there are people who think Brown saved this country from complete economic collapse. Only this morning my wife was saying that it was a real shame he was PM when the economy tanked because he got the blame for it, when of course it was the greedy bankers and their Tory paymasters who had caused everything. She was still saying this even after I’d slapped her several times to make sure she was actually awake.

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        • 90
          jgm2 says:

          Seriously though. Who are these people? Even Ned Balls has been forced to acknowledge that the Maximum Imbecile was running a structural deficit during the ‘boom’ years.

          He’s claiming that ‘nobody’ realise it at the time of course. Apart from the IMF of course. And the glaring give away that we were actually borrowing money during a ‘boom’. But now, with the benefit of hindsight he can see that yes, we were running a 78bn quid annual structural deficit. Curiously enough being the cost of hiring one million additional public sector personnel and their associated costs.

          So. Given that even Brown’s most loyal supporters can see that he (Brown) fucked the UK economy who is unaware of the fact? And why does anybody pay to hear to him?

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      • 87
        Tuscan Tony says:

        Pity jgm2, pure and simple human pity for a creature with the looks of a Brundlefly and the sagacity of Pippa Middleton.

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      • 114
        Tay King-dePisse says:

        Some people might actually want to see Gordon Brown channelling his father (who was a Kirk o’ Scotland parson after all), and just as they would have done with the Reverend Mr Brown, they will allow themselves to be preached at by a man who doesn’t know what lies ahead any more than they do (only that when he’s talking, there are probably lies ahead). Not MY idea of a fun evening, but to each their own; some folks are just masochists, you’d figure.

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    • 74
      Joss Taskin says:

      You’re paid by results now ?

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  32. 54
    Anon & never voted ZanuLieLabor & never will says:

    Hang on, lets me get this straight

    These ZanuLielabor MP’s receive £130K per year to pay staff costs

    but then don’t pay their intern’s ?

    Is this not a clear case of obtaining TAX PAYERS money by deception ??

    Perhaps the Parliament Standards Committee need to look into this

    along with HMRC to find out where our money goes

    May FOI request will throw some light on this fraud

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    • 59
      Red Egg the National Socialist.... says:

      Nothing wrong in giving your money to our family members, after all £130k, as the Indians say, is “peanuts” :)

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  33. 65
    Nigel Farage says:

    See my letter to George Osborne here: http://fb.me/1lAg0zkDu

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    • 69
      nellnewman says:

      Another reason, amongst the many, as to why we should get out of the eu.

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    • 73
      Tachybaptus says:

      We know it isn’t really Nigel writing that. But if whoever it is added Nigel’s web site where it says ‘Website’ in the comments box, it would be a little more realistic.

      As for what Nigel actually wrote, spot on.

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  34. 68
    Outlier says:

    Brent Council! A know first-hand just what a corrupt bunch of lying crooks they are….

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  35. 70
    Kebab travel update says:

    Baker Street has closed again southbound, from Marylebone Rd, towards Marble Arch, due to fire. Marylebone Rd traffic is slow both ways

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    • 77
      Tachybaptus says:

      The Tyburn river runs over the Circle Line platform at Baker Street in a big pipe. All they had to do was turn on the tap.

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  36. 72
    Boris is a Socialist says:

    “Boris Johnson announces rise in London living wage

    London mayor says living wage will be £8.55 in capital, while rate elsewhere rises to £7.40″

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  37. 84
    David Duke is your pinup says:

    Hey righties. Just make sure you have a copy of Birth of a Nation on standby tomorrow night in case Obama wins and you need to let off some steam by getting vicarious pleasure from watching blks get killed. We know how you lot think.

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    • 94
      Rabid Rightie says:

      We’re more partial to this one. Better music, in colour, no hammy overacting:

      “Men of Harlech, on to glory!
      This will ever be your story…”

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    • 103
      jgm2 says:

      It doesn’t matter who gets in. They’ll still be clearing up the mess left by Bush.

      Same as here. It doesn’t really matter who gets in for another 20 years. They’ll primarily still be dealing with the Brownian clusterfuck.

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    • 120
      JH says:

      You know, posts like this reveal a great deal more of the bigotry of the left than the right.

      But of course, left wingers cannot possibly be bigoted, can they. They are just simply far too good for that to be the case.

      Just like black people can’t be racist, and women can’t be sexist.

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    • 137
      bxlls says:

      President Soeharto.

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  38. 85
    David Minibanana says:

    Can’t we get Red Ed on the Liverpool care pathway ??

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  39. 86
    I don't need no doctor says:

    If an MPs salary is £65,000 a year for little work e.g. Gordon Brown, then why isn’t the living wage at least the same?

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  40. 88
    Moussa Koussa Mark 1 says:

    Only 24 hours before the neo con fu*ck wit is in the White house

    …You must all be very excited.

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    • 97
      jgm2 says:

      It doesn’t matter who gets in. They’ll still be clearing up the mess left by Bush.

      Same as here. It doesn’t really matter who gets in for another 20 years. They’ll primarily still be dealing with the Brownian clusterfuck.

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    • 99
      Tax is theft says:

      Increasing the national debt by 60% just as Obarmy has done will be quite an ask.

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  41. 89
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Labour wouldn’t appear on the Daily Politics to discuss the living wage. Why?

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  42. 95
    papadopolous says:

    Milibland looks like he’s swallowed a gobstopper

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  43. 112
    Ian says:

    I am a part time cleaner for Mitie paid min wage Normal Rate for our job

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  44. 116
    Nothing better to do says:

    If the interns are stupid enough to work for nothing great. Good for them. What I’d be more worried about is the amount of jobs lost or never created by the minimum wage stupidity. Add in all the regulations and taxes that are foisted on us and there is very little incentive for a small company to employ more people.

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  45. 118
    dunstall says:

    The worst hypocrisy is the Labour MPS who pay members of their own families as staffers exhorbitant salaries without any recourse to openly advertising these jobs or applying the normal employment rules

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  46. 123
    Check Facts First says:

    Watched nasally Rachel Reeve having a car crash this morning on the tele trying to justify the difference between the minimum wage and the living wage. Little wonder Labour wouldn`t put anyone up on the Daily Politics Show for interview. I hope Ed names and shames Labour MPs, past and present ,who are not paying their staff the living wage.

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  47. 128
    Foghorn leghorn says:

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  48. 132
    Anonymous says:

    What else do you expect from Marxist millionaires?

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  49. 138
    Anonymous says:

    Living a lie? Timmy! Timmy?

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  50. 139
    David B says:

    As always from the left “do as we say not as we do”

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  51. 144
    Ehtch says:

    £7-45 is it. Chroist almighty, that won’t break the fucking bank. Say if it 25 million of us, which it isn’t, still drop in the ocean above six quid or so. Fucking hells bells, what is the fucking fuss, it is pennies, the country can easily afford it.

    And look at Cameron today, yes, in Saudi trying to sell another Tornado-type Al Yammah, or whatever it was called, 1980s aircraft contract, and the BEEB news never ever said we only own a quarter at the most of the Typhoon eurofighter aircraft, the rest is owned by the germans italians spannish and other EU countries. What an arse breath Dave Cams is, the Saudi’s must be laughing at him in their coffees.

    When UK made aircraft, before The London english asset strippers moved in, sponsored by the then Tory Party, for their grandads pensions, in some isle somewhere close or far, more or less tax free. Capitalist nazzies!

    Chocks away…

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Knifed former civil service chief Bob Kerslake on his recent troubles:

“Many thks for kind wishes following back opn. Incision measured 16cm. A pretty big knife in the back! Photos on request.”



TJ says:

And i’ve noticed that 100% of Guido Fawkes staff are men. Looks like Guido has a woman problem. Or is it an hypocrisy problem?


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