October 31st, 2012

Government Line on EU Humilation

This was just sent to Tory MPs:

We hear and we take notice, as always, of what Parliament has said.

MPs on both sides of the vote want to see EU spending kept down as effectively as possible at a time of restraint and reductions at home. The only difference is about the tactics of doing so.

The Prime Minister has taken the toughest position of any Prime Minister in history – a freeze has never been achieved before – and when you realise 17 out 26 other countries are net gainers from the budget these will obviously be difficult negotiations.

The Prime Minister will continue to do everything possible to achieve the best deal we can deliver for the British taxpayer.

This is all in contrast to a Labour Party who never achieved a freeze, never even asked for freeze and allowed vast increases to British contributions to the EU budget. For them this has been about cheap politics rather than taking responsibility for how we get the best deal for Britain.

Licking the wounds


232 Comments

  1. 1
    Well it's a thought says:

    Seeing is believing, no doubt he will do his usual cast iron and sell us further into the EU

  2. 2
    Spode says:

    Let’s just get out.

  3. 3
    millibrand says:

    it dont matter Dave will do what he is told

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    green ink says:

    PM has a realistic and pragmatic stance despite the flak

  6. 6
    PIP PIP says:

    I bet Sam will get a good thrasing tonight after Dave downs a bottle or two of red.

  7. 7
    Anonymous says:

    If Cameron cannot get 20% cut he should veto every thing that comes from EU till we get a cut.

    Or have a vote asking the people whether UK should leave EU.

  8. 8
    UKIP.i.am says:

    It’s no good them moaning that this is the first time they have asked for a freeze. This is the first bull-blown European-created economic crisis. They still don’t get that the gravy has run out.

  9. 9
    the treasury's briefs says:

    steady bunter….

  10. 10
    Anonymous says:

    We should have a vote on it first.

  11. 11
    anonymouse says:

    With 17 gainers that means that there are 9 countries that actually pay into the EU. No wonder they are in favour of greater spending.

  12. 12
    UKIP.i.am says:

    .. or even full-blown.

  13. 13

    What a Hunt!

    Fancy allowing himself to be boxed into this mess – by Miliband as well.

    FFS WAKE UP!

  14. 14
    UKIP.i.am says:

    Why? We never voted to go into this European union.

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    Dave says:

    I promise that I’ll promise you a referendum.

  17. 17
    LOL says:

    bollocks mate

  18. 18
    LOL says:

    meant for green ink ffs

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    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Smug mode.

    Great Britain out.

  21. 21
    Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

    At the last election didn’t the majority of those who bothered to vote did so for pro-Europe parties?

  22. 22
    Anonymous says:

    If you are such an expert, can you tell us who we will trade with if we come out of the EU, how long it will take for us to get back to the same levels of trade as we have now etc.

  23. 23
    Anonymous says:

    250 Tory MPs just decided they don’t want to be elected next time around….

    With Labour and UKIP pointing out that they voted for savings from ‘savage’ cuts to go into the EU’s coffers I don’t see how they’d fare well….

  24. 24

    This isn’t some fucking Mediterranean republic, you know.

  25. 25
    Anonymous says:

    Last time when Cameron vetoed, rest of the EU just want ahead ignoring him. Not sure whether Cameron knows how to use a veto.

  26. 26
    Engineer says:

    I think that Germany, the UK and the Netherlands pretty well bank-roll the EU between them. There may well be other net contributors, but the proportion they add to the pot is neglgable compared to those three.

    If those three stand together during negotiations and say, “5% cut to budget or we stop paying”, what are the EU going to do about it? Invade?

    OK, I know it’s not that simple; but it is about time the unelected bureaucrats were put back in their boxes.

  27. 27
    Anonymous says:

    To be fair, it must be difficult to know what hypocritical stand Millband is going to make next ! they never lifted a finger when in government to get us out of the EU, and suddenly he is the world expert.I dont know how he sleeps at night, he has no principals and wants power at all cost.

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Had it in the seventies, when the then conservatives took us into EU.

  29. 29
    Spot says:

    Stop being so stupid.

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    Engineer says:

    Hm. I know language does change, but ‘thrasing’ has completely passed me by. Is it in the OED, the Urban Dictionary or Roger’s Profanisaurus?

  31. 31
    Engineer says:

    He’s devoid of principles, too.

  32. 32
    Anonymous says:

    Does the MP people voted in 2010, voted today requesting the PM to cut what we pay to EU.

  33. 33
    Anonymous says:

    Fucking gutted that my local MP voted for the amendment.

    Won’t be able to use it against the Hunt at the next election now…

  34. 34
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Exactly! Dave & Co are determined for us to stay in this vile organisation no matter what the people want. But he is going to get a rude awakening soon. The people won’t stand for it.

  35. 35
    Back to Basics says:

  36. 36
    Tachybaptus says:

    ‘We hear and we take notice, as always, of what Parliament has said.’
    Patently untrue, and the rest is blather.

  37. 37
    Universal Hiss says:

    About 2 minutes.

  38. 38
    Spot says:

    How far away is the next GE? lot of water to go under the bridge by then.
    The comrades are currently fighting a difficult battle keeping the euro alive.

  39. 39

    Austria, Cyprus, Germany, Denmark, Finland, France, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, UK were all net contributors in 2009 according to Deutsche Bank Research.

    That appears to have shrunk to Austria, Germany, Denmark, France, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, UK in 2011.

  40. 40
    Hard Man Dave says:

    I will insist on a freeze to the EU budget (or maybe just a slight thaw to keep people happy)

  41. 41
    Anonymous says:

    We are in WTO, we will still have free trade with EU in the same way USA, China, etc have free trade with EU.

    Also we buy more from EU than we sell to them, if they don’t trade with us they will lose more than us.

  42. 42
    Trimbush says:

    This is all in contrast to a Labour Party who …..

    The Labour Party WHO ….. ? blimey !!

    Whatever next?

  43. 43
    john in cheshire says:

    No, we were taken into a’Common Market’. This morphed, without any vote by we the people, into the EU, via the EEC.

  44. 44
    Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

    Bill Cash was spot on. Barroso & Co are living on another planet. Like the last 4 years have never happened.

  45. 45
    Ex-voter says:

    At the last election most still believed in a EU that could be changed.

    No one believes that now.

  46. 46
    Back to Basics says:

    Its time for each and every one of the unelected bureaucrats to be sacked.

  47. 47
    Angry Bird Bath says:

    Did they all turn up and vote or were there any Labour abstainers or rebels?

  48. 48
    Pentangelis says:

    Whether we like it or not its true.
    Whilst I love a good Government ‘beating’ from time to time, the harsh reality is that we will not achieve any reduction, no matter how hard we try.
    The options then are either to fight for the best deal, like Maggie, seriously consider IN or Out, or just take the medicine like the spineless, gutless excuses for politicians in previous Labour Governments have done and will continue to do if they ever get into power again.
    The real lesson of this is once again the exposure of the Labour Party as mere opportunist politicians with absolutely no idea of what they want or even what to do next., let alone how to achieve it. Talk about the Emperor with no clothes. I bet E. MillibLand is a bit chilly tonight.

  49. 49
    Father Christmas says:

    True. All the chocolate money in Lidl is in sterling this year.

  50. 50
    dirt says:

    Those 250 Tories must surely feel lower than snakes balls this evening.

  51. 51
    Pope Calixtus the Сunt-shaver says:

    You’re saying it should be ‘which’?
    ‘Manchester United, who have lost all their games this season …’
    ‘The Nazis, who are kind to fluffy bunnies …’

  52. 52
    Anonymous says:

    john in cheshire, same as what happened when we voted in 2010, we voted for something and ended up getting something else.

  53. 53
    The public says:

    Don’t worry about Miliband. He’s the opposition. its his job to be an opportunist etc etc.

    It is much more important that the government of our country reflects the will of the people.

  54. 54
    Tachybaptus says:

    Possibly, but I know moorhens with a longer memory than the British electorate.

  55. 55
    A greedy heartless politician says:

    Feel? Feeeeeeeeeeel?

    Ha ha ha ha ha.

  56. 56
    Gordon's Beard says:

    Mug…now jog on

  57. 57
    Dr Who says:

    Is Britain Euro Skeptic?

    Very.

    This is indeed good.

  58. 58
    Peter Bone says:

    In 1970 a Mars bar was 3½d. I got 2d pocket money for sweets on the way home from school, so it was years before I had one.

    I had a jolly tough childhood you know and lucky to survive the great trauma of it all.

  59. 59
    Epicurian says:

  60. 60
    Ted "Jersey boys" Heath says:

    Can’t see what the fuss is, minority govt loses vote, big deal. Let’s cut the payments to the EU by leaving

  61. 61
    Eddie says:

    When listen to “opening my legs to all Flint” pontificating, I feel like having a go!

  62. 62
    Nogbad the Bad says:

    I don’t care who did this or why, I am just delighted they did.

  63. 63
    Bob Fleming says:

    Agreed. Voted Tory all my life but UKIP from now on until Cameron gets it into his thick skull that the UK will leave the EU with or without him

  64. 64
    Ed Miliband says:

    I’ll bet Mrs Bone has enjoyed a few mars bars in her time, eh, eh, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no MORE guv’nor.

  65. 65
    A shoplifter says:

    And it made you the man you are today

  66. 66
    Anonymous says:

    I agree. Milliband has played a blinder here.

    People’s pledge worried a lot of MPs, if the big issue at the next election is going to be europe then how they voted here could give them a lifeline at least… Especially against tories who voted for the savings from cuts to go to europe….

  67. 67
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    five six seven eight

  69. 69
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    No use pointing fingers at Labour, Tory twats, you’ve been in office 2 1/2 years now….

  70. 70
    Fawkes can't stop me posting no matter how hard he tries says:

    Cameron the c u n t doesn’t get it does he? Labour might be arseholes but the point is WE the people are fucked off with the corrupt thieving twats in the EU.

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    Spot says:

    Europe is a country that borrows money from the markets to finance its entire welfare payments to its citizens whilst generously handing out billions in overseas aid,not to mention the membership fee to the Society of Distressed European Farmers .
    The markets will have their revenge.

  73. 73
    Finnpog says:

    What a cast iron, petulant hissy fit that communique that message is.
    Sounds like Clegg’s ringmaster has got his fingers in his ears already.

  74. 74
    Fuck this blog says:

    .

  75. 75
    The Tosser in No 10 says:

    I say you jolly chaps!!! This is more than yours truly can dashed well comfortably digest in one sitting! First my Wind Farm Scam goes off the rails, then my €USSR scam goes off the rails, and now it looks like trouble with my HS2 scam!

    What can a jolly chap do??? What? What wattage will I lose? What shall say to Herr von Rumpy-Pumpy or Frau Murkyl?

  76. 76
    Fluffy the Destroyer says:

    If there was a group of 26 blokes, 9 of which had cash and 17 of which were pointless, idle, useless, benifit sucking sh*ts who got a great big chunk of the 9 other blokes’ money were asked to vote if things should carry on in this way, how do you think the vote would go? Discuss.

  77. 77
    Eddie says:

    Surest way to make Red Ed the PM and into Eurozone!

  78. 78
    This Blog says:

    - and fuck you sir! Go and do some ghastly LieBore pastime – like claiming idle tosser benefit!

  79. 79
    Anon & never voted ZanuLieLabor & never will says:

    When we get out of the clutches of the EUSSR sooner rather than later

    CMDDD will ensure 100% our payments will continue !!!

    as part of his stubborn belief that is the right thing to do…..

    no doubt he will sight the ECHR legislation as his reason…………

    Many a true word said in jest………………!!!

  80. 80

    Topiary is about having a nicely trimmed bush.

  81. 81
    Grocer Heath (with stupid accent) says:

    Nee-ooow – yoo-ar arrr orl better orffff for what oy dun.

  82. 82
    Who fucking cares? says:

    This used to be a good site once, now Fawkes is just keeping his paymasters happy.

  83. 83
    Our Gal Sal says:

    - and my topiary is Topps

  84. 84
    Over a Glass Darkly says:

    “The Prime Minister will continue to do everything possible to achieve the best deal we can deliver for the British taxpayer.”

    Weasel words. The “best deal possible” is an EU budget cut in real terms; nothing less. The alternative should be put clearly, without ambiguity: An ‘In/Out’ Referendum for the British people.

    All praise to Mark Reckless for his excellent work this evening.

  85. 85
    V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

    Cameron should just refuse to pay anything from now on as we leave the corrupt EU. A refund of the last 10 years of payments would also be useful.

  86. 86
    Anonymous says:

    or is it the junior who is trying to piss us all off?

  87. 87
    The Public says:

    Yes. Its funny how soon politicians forget who their real bosses are.

  88. 88
    Tom watson, fantasyland says:

    I am making a sign to put on my window which will say:

    WAITING FOR UKIP
    THE REST OF YOU FUCK OFF
    SCREW THE EUSSR.

  89. 89
    Saffron says:

    My understanding is that we voted for a Common Market and not something that has morphed into an attempt to impose a federal states of Europe onto nation states.
    There is only one way for us to go and if we had politico’s who have any sense of national pride instead of rubber backbones,they know which way that is.
    A referendum please with the simple question IN or OUT.

  90. 90
    Anonymous says:

    Carry Hole is the problem.

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  92. 92
    Rosie Websters Dictionary. says:

    I think it,s similar to quilping ,and i do,nt know what that means either.

  93. 93
    Barroso & Co says:

    You mean 2004-2008?

  94. 94

    Since it seems only stupid posts are allowed to get by now (for me at least):

    The yews have it, the yews have it:

    http://bit.ly/Q7izAC

  95. 95
    HenryV says:

    For once my useless tosser voted the right way. Still won’t stop me not voting for him or shouting him out the next time I see him. When I see him here it is always in the pedestrianised part of town so no handy buses to push him under. Just thought! Plenty of trees and lamp stands…….where’s me piano wire??????????

  96. 96
    Who cares says:

    Most people have given up hope and don’t really care which LibLabCon party gets in , as people know the next vote is for being an indebted third world country run from another country, if one of these parties get in, the braindead will wake up and find we have no money to give them and will kick off, out of the ashes etc.

  97. 97
    The Public says:

    Let’s just stop sending them any money.

  98. 98
    Humdinger,s dog says:

    I am sure it was,nt that hard.We are talking about call me butch.

  99. 99
    HenryV says:

    What a thought……..

  100. 100
    Rentaboy says:

    Lucky for her he’s a toff and drinks red. Could be a lot
    worse if he’s tipple was 14 pints of wife beater.

  101. 101
    HenryV says:

    Are you being mod’ed my good sir? Mr Fawkes does it to keep you keen you know.

  102. 102
    Tiger Tiger says:

    Tell them We Wont Pay and We Wont Obey.

  103. 103
    Humdinger,s dog says:

    Yew,re the master at these kind of posts Sc

  104. 104
    Who cares says:

    Libore gave people a referendum for an EEC vote but it was a YES YES voting referendum, the newspapers kept quiet on it, BBC well we know they’re not biased, we know the rest, nice to see the newspapers dying, hopefully the BBC will follow or be sold.

  105. 105
    Back Door Man says:

    Is it like fetching, yummy very tasty.

  106. 106
    Engineer says:

    Not so! I have a very fine wicketkeeper named after my moniker!

  107. 107
    Baldrichmondtory says:

    Now yer talkin,lad I can tell thee now ,I drink 14 pints er best yorkshire bitter ivery neet and[get this] ahve got a baseball cap.Tough, thats what i am.

  108. 108
    Anonymous says:

    I think it’s a con. It would take more that one non- binding hostile vote to humiliate David Cameron. It’s not my idea of a disaster – if anything it strengthens his hand in the upcoming negotiations. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cam had been playing the Brer Rabbit trick of ‘please don’t throw me into the briar bush’ (and you have to be quite old to know that particular fable!)

  109. 109
    The Abottment says:

    Wacist!

  110. 110
    Engineer says:

    Egad – Percy Thrower lives!

  111. 111
    Camerons PRAM says:

    He is not sleeping like a baby. He is crying his fucking eyes out.

  112. 112
    Referendum says:

  113. 113

    Not surprised he got all those runs, coming from Bombay!

  114. 114
    Engineer says:

    The BBC are getting worse. They reported Heseltine’s speech as ‘a direct challenge to the government’ on Radio 4 6 o’clock news. It was so blatant I almost fell about laughing.

  115. 115

    I think I will follow your example and have a bit of a holiday.

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    ÁC1 says:

    Less than that. Once we leave the EUSSR customs cartel we can trade with the world freely.

    The number is negative as people will start preparing for the extra trade.

  118. 118
    ÁC1 says:

    Not sure people voted for a copy of the economy on the wrong side of the Berlin wall.

  119. 119
    Peeps says:

    Hey there Dickhead Dave, the way to save tax-payers’ hard-earned cash is to get the fuck out of the EC. Don’t just cut it, save it all.

    “The Prime Minister will continue to do everything possible to achieve the best deal we can deliver for the British taxpayer.”

    Don’t listen to those troughing snouty bastards in Parliament, listen to the fucking people.

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    Engineer says:

    It refreshes the spirit. In a world so full of good things worth doing, and absorbing things worth learning about, it’s easy to fall into the trap of spending too much time on trivia. Savour your freedom!

  121. 121
    Bay City Ukipers says:

    Bye Bye Davey,
    Davey Bye Bye

  122. 122
    ÁC1 says:

    Saving the cancer is killing the patient.

  123. 123
    ÁC1 says:

    and next year France and Italy will drop out of that list.

  124. 124
    henrywood says:

    Hey Guido, Instead of all these easy targets you keep placing in your crosshairs, how about some information about the David -v- Goliath Battle between Tony Newbery and Boaden of the BBC. The poor guy can do with some help, or maybe only some truth, as is never published in the UK mainstream media. I love your blog but please, do not go down the “Celebrity” path like the rest of the creatures.

  125. 125
    Booo fcuking hooo says:

    @Anonymous “we voted for something and ended up getting something else”

    That’s how democracy works. Stop fucking whining.

  126. 126
    The Boss says:

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    the 17 says:

    a lot of us would be too busy down the pub to bother voting, but as long as > 9 could be arsed, things would be ok.

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    pedants R retards says:

    Is he the first person in the history of the fucking universe to make a typing mistake? How fucking droll you are.

  130. 130
    c.eng says:

    Who do you think you are kidding Missis Mikkler

  131. 131
    robbie says:

    Those 50+ Tory rebels- suicidal. I should think that Tory CC will be starting a long campaign of constituency re-selection control before too long.

  132. 132
    A Taxpayer says:

    Nigel, we don’t pay you to sit around watching Cameron. Stop planning to be lazy and do something useful.

  133. 133
    A Taxpayer says:

    Hopefully, Britain will too.

  134. 134
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    As opposed to promising a referendum on whether to hold a referendum.
    And the pellet with the poison’s in the chalice from the palace; the flagon with the dragon holds the brew that is true.

  135. 135
    Jimmy says:

    Dazzling economic insight like this is reason enough to visit.

  136. 136
    Jimmy says:

    “This was just sent to Tory MPs”

    And, of course, to you.

  137. 137
    LaVerne deFazio And Shirley Feeney says:

    Schlemihl, Schlimazel, Hassenpfeffer Incorporated…

  138. 138
    Budgie says:

    Spot, some people really do think that if we leave the EU we will not be able to trade with the EU. They get this false notion from europhile politicians.

    The real answer is that the UK and EU are full members of the WTO, so the UK will enjoy freer trade than now (since the EU’s existing ‘single market’ rules are both onerous and expensive).

    Even if the EU was spiteful, the WTO rules and procedures provide for dispute settlements. Besides the EU sells more to us than we sell to them so it is not in their own interests.

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    Chuka's Chick says:

  141. 141
    Budgie says:

    Well, actually Boo Hoo we vote a new government in/out every five years – that’s democracy. Tell me when we last voted in/out of the EU, I must have missed it.

  142. 142
    Who will we trade with ? says:

    The rest of the World you brainwashed retard. And by the way that also includes our European friends.

  143. 143
    Budgie says:

    I hope you’re correct, but Dave has been quite open about his support for the EU and the eurozone, particularly with our money.

  144. 144
    Saddam Bin Liner says:

    Jimmy is a very bad choice of Nickname.

    Most will either think of you as a Scotch drunk or a Yorkshire peadophile

    Ever thought about changing to Ian Huntley?

  145. 145
    ÁC1 says:

    For hopefully different reasons.

  146. 146
    Fuck the EU says:

    I remember because I was there, we voted for a common market NOT a grey monolithic EUSSR tyranny !

  147. 147
    ÁC1 says:

    theregister has that covered.

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    Explains a lot says:

    Look you have to take account of the fact that our leading politcians have views whch spring from the fact that they were, in the main, buggered as young boys !

  149. 149
    How to overcome this problem says:

    Bare in mind the 26 plied the 9 with drugs and wimin.

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    Tom watson, fantasyland says:

    I’d be unhappy too if I had to look at your fucking ugly mush every time i went to work, you Champagne socialist hypocritical old bag.

  152. 152
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Cameron is a weaselly cnut,

    Not so much the heir to Blair as the heir to Stephen Byers and Geoff Hoon.

    Well he can fuck right off and the Tories can forget about my vote until he’s gone.

  153. 153
    Been here before says:

    ShoI’m glad you said “sacked” its not as if we live in the 1920’s or 30’s

  154. 154
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    “Fur” Berger is basically an old style courtesan. Her fanny must be like a welly top.

  155. 155
    Mornington Crescent says:

    He was a pirate?

  156. 156
    Our survey said !.... says:

    Seriously consider In or Out !

  157. 157
    Bone On says:

  158. 158
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    or Fred West

  159. 159
    Observer says:

    There was no referendum on entering the Common Market, which Ted Heath forced through the Commons with hard whipping and, I think, a majority of only one at some points. This was at odds with his earlier promise that there would be no entry without “the full-hearted consent of Parliament and people”.

    The referendum was under the subsequent Labour government and was about whether to stay in the newly entered Common Market, as it then was.

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    Chuka Urmunneyaround says:

    It’s not that tight.

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    Anonymous says:

    Nope, the treaty we voted on promised ‘ever closer integration’.

    Heath and co lied, saying it was merely a common market.

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    Mercian says:

    They were sacked a few years ago and then they just reappointed themselves. That ginger twat Kinnock was the worst.

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    Chuka is a Hezza fan. Tells you all you need to know about both of the Twat s says:

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    Observer says:

    The point would not, I hope, be that ‘which’ should be used. The indefinite article (‘a’) means that the correct wording would be “a Labour Party that . . .”

    Remember, ‘that’ defines and ‘which’ introduces new information.

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    Well it's a thought says:

    Good night for who, not the people of this country, you know fkin well Camoron will sell us out to get his master in as European El Presidente, 2015 Camoron say goodbye.

  167. 167
    A reader says:

    A bandit, at any rate.

  168. 168
    Dave the Failure says:

    It’s just fucking amazing how Dave rejects vote winners.

    Cast Iron Guarantee of EU referendum.

    A veto that was not a veto

    A cutback in EU spending

    A halt in Windmills

    An end to Foreign aid protection

    Homosexual marriage

    And the list goes on

    Wot a Tw@t

  169. 169
    Weybridgeman says:

    Ahhhh Diddums. Have a proper vote on the EU – In or Out (how difficult can that really be???) then you will get a lot of Labour Drifters as well and LibDem total exposure/nudtiy on this one. Until then…..you dont get my vote ……!

  170. 170
    Quiet Bat Person says:

    A lot of what is counted as our sales to the EU is in fact just exports passing through Rotterdam. In fact it is then sent on to elsewhere in the world.

    Our freedom to run our own economy, free of undemocratic interference from Euro politicians and Goldman Sachs placemen, is more important, and will allow us better to compete in the world.

  171. 171
    Sir Mary Flappes. says:

    Out! We’ll save Ashton’s livery fees.

  172. 172
    Rev. Erendum says:

    In out shake them all about.The EU budget debate just reflects the great malaise in Britain’s relationship with the EU Commission and the European project. If the Ed’s can get their act together they can deliver the killer kick to the coalition and demand a pre 2015 referendum on membership. Britain can align on a voluntary basis without being in the EU Treaties. If it so chooses.

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    Glad to be out of it says:

    Dont forget the EU accounts have not been signed off for 15 years.

  174. 174
    albacore says:

    The whole point of being Tommy-opposite
    Is to train the plebs to take any old shit
    The fuhrer’s the fuhrer, even when he’s a tit
    All resistance is futile. You’ll get used to it

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    neothesis says:

    “The Prime Minister has taken the toughest position of any Prime Minister in history – a freeze has never been achieved before – and when you realise 17 out 26 other countries are net gainers from the budget these will obviously be difficult negotiations”

    What is so difficult about saying NO? All Cameron has to do is say NO, we cannot afford any increase at all, why is he so afraid? And negotiations have not yet started and he comes over as wholly defeatist before the event, what kind of message does that send to the kommissars in Brussels? In order to negotiate properly the other side has to respect you, the truth is that the kommissars of Brussels know Cameron is a weak coward.

    If we had a real PM he would be full of confidence and fully prepared to dictate terms to Brussels telling them what the UK is prepared to pay. Even before he goes to his masters in Brussels he has lost because he has the mindset of a loser, even before the negotiations have started he believes he has failed so fail he most certainly will. Why is Cameron so frightened of the Brussels Mafia?

    What is lacking is self confidence and self assurance and courage, we clearly see a cowardly and weak PM unable and unwilling to stand up for British interests, if he goes with a defeatist mindset to a negotiations where the other parties know for a fact that he will not stand up and fight or issue any red lines then he has lost before he ever begins, he is a loser.

  176. 176
    albacore says:

    Well, that depends on which side he bats for
    (Though this ain’t cricket, it’s undeclared war)
    It’s not what they say or the way that they say it
    Just watch how the LibLabCons actually play it

  177. 177
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’ll let Scameron rent my rocking horse but he can provide his own Nokias.

  178. 178
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Totaly agree.

    He could say, for instance: The people of England are not happy with the acounting of the EU, they would like to know that their money is being well spent, so, until the EU,s books are seen by an acountant of our choice and signed off, we shall be withholding any further payments.

  179. 179
    Cressida's Dick says:

    How’s the he*adache Dave? There’s plenty more to come. 54 of your MPs can see the endgame. You’re just too blind/stupid/arrogant to work it out.

    In/Out referendum now.

  180. 180
    Sarge says:

    Yes, almost as dazzling as Labour’s own economic(and I use the word in its broadest sense) policies.

  181. 181
    Grollace says:

    What about the other 8 states who not only want to carry on being net EUSSR contributors but also want to increase their payments by as much as 5%?
    Perhaps their leaders ought to have a compulsory test for schizophrenia that analyses a person’s stare.
    Do the words “rabbit” and “headlights” come to mind?

  182. 182
    Sarge says:

    Jeez -if this is classed as playing a ‘blinder’ Milliband is in deep shit.

  183. 183
    Kebab Sockpuppet says:

    The government’s giving £12.8 million to the Manchester Cancer Research Centre.” Fucksakes!

  184. 184
    Lou Scannon says:

    Can someone please explain to me what the recent Conservative conference was in aid of ? What did it achieve ?
    We’ve got the same tosser in no. 10 claiming to be a Tory but acting like continuity-Brown and refusing to listen to the voters. He peddles outright lies about what the majority of voters obviously think about the EU. He shows spectacularly bad judgement in his choice of advisors and seems happy to buy into each and every scam provided that he’s bunged a few thousand quid.

    
    

    Cameron has got to go. Make it soon, please.

  185. 185
    Taxfodder says:

    Good bye Dave hello Boris…

  186. 186
    Sig Hansen says:

    Its all a con he got what he wanted

    This way he does not have to placate the Cleglet and can tell the Mandarins at the EU he tried, it also exposes totally Labours rank hypocrisy and cynical opportunism.

    Liebour will also now find it hard to change there attitude for this new found enthusiasm for getting tough on the EU having spent 11+ years surrrendering whatever they demanded inc the Rebate

    For once Cameron played a blinder

  187. 187
    Nicol Sinclair says:

    Your “thick twat” does not add much to your argument.

  188. 188
    Anonymous says:

    words wail and veil over our eyes.
    Its the action
    and the reaction
    which matters.
    the rest is all talk no substance.,

  189. 189
    Kebab Sockpuppet says:

    Pinch, punch – the first of the month!” << Ha.

  190. 190
    Sally Slapper says:

    You called?

  191. 191
    Raving Loon says:

    Er…the vote isn’t binding, the EU will get their way in the end.

  192. 192
    Raving Loon says:

    A full on revolution with torches and pitchforks would be handy.

  193. 193
    neothesis says:

    Now that is the way to negotiate, you go in hard and with supreme self confidence and fully aware of the weakness of the other side, knowing these weaknesses you fully exploit them for your own advantage. Cameron goes to Brussels fully expecting to lose.

    But we have a PM that goes to Brussels as a loser clearly telling the other side that he is going to lose and that he will not bring any pressures or threats to bear, of course they are going to walk all over him if he presents himself as a door mat.

  194. 194
    UKIP.i.am says:

    Does this mean that Labour are the party of Little Englanders and fruitcakes now?

  195. 195
    jeananonymous says:

    I hear David Cameron has told Ed Miliband to stop playing politics with the EU

    Funny, I nearly died

  196. 196
    epianonymous says:

    we don’t make anything worth selling

  197. 197
    Chef Kebab says:

    What to do with the pumpkin now ?? Well It’s going in the slow cooker for 4 hours and hopefully make a nice a hearty pumpkin soup.

  198. 198
    Robert the Biker says:

    Don’t forget to change to the Vessel with the Pestle. : )

  199. 199
    Glenda Slagg says:

    Dave making Johnny Major look like a fuckhoon statesman.

  200. 200
    Nothing better to do says:

    Cameron probably doesn’t know how to use a urinal, he has his Fag to do it for him. The bloke has never even had a proper job, silver spoon all the way.

  201. 201
    Vote UKIP says:

    Camoron is a dead man walking. It’s over. The barbarians will take over. All this was so unnecessary. The Tory party may even be finished. But the Conservatives brought this all on themselves. Sad really.

  202. 202
    Nothing better to do says:

    No they don’t. Their bosses are bankers and big business. If you think us proles are in charge you need to up your medication.

  203. 203
    100k+ mother who still wants child benefits says:

    Moorhens or coots? How do you tell the difference?

  204. 204
    nigelforengland says:

    And they will stand as UKIP candidates, excellent.

  205. 205
    blub says:

    “The people won’t stand for it.”

    The europhiles are electing a new people – half a million a year.

  206. 206
    Greychatter says:

    We should start with cutting the salaries of the EU commission and EU MPs.

    I understand that Baroness Ashton is the Highest paid politician in the world and “Van Rompold” is paid more than President Obama.

    What a waste of our money, what do either of them do for the money?

  207. 207
    Anonymous says:

    So tell me, does EU impose import tax for goods from USA or China?

    What ever can be produced and sold within EU can be produced by USA and China and sold to EU.

    Only reason other poor countries wants to join is to let their people move to rich countries within EU and to get money from these rich countries. No rich country is hammering at EU gates asking to be let into EU.

  208. 208
    dirt says:

    Strategy…that twat’s only strategy worries are which £2000 suit to choose for tv and which jumper and chinos combo to choose for those times when he meets the voters for photo ops

  209. 209
    Longinus says:

    don’t be racist..

  210. 210
    Dobbie says:

    Tories think they have a majority! They do not. Easier to herd bloody cats.

  211. 211
    Sally Slapper says:

    Nah, Felching – good for one!

  212. 212
    Having a giraffe says:

    I think we should be in line for a rebate or something .

  213. 213
    Dave the Failure says:

    Yippee. What a lovely distraction from my Governments appalling continuing Deficit. The net UK contribution to the EU is circa £10 billion. per YEAR. The Deficit is £10 billion per MONTH.

    I AM AN OVERSPENDING USELESS WEAK CNUT

  214. 214
    Having a giraffe says:

    Ok so Cameron says “no ” and then what happens ?

    Are all the other countries going to follow Mr Cameron and if so where is he going to lead them ?

    If you say “no ” at this party I think it means goodbye .

    You can of course try to negotiate free trade agreements but I cannot see much appetite for this in mainland Europe .

    The British people have ended up with David Cameron as Leader because he is the Leader they deserve .

  215. 215
    Hannibal from Carthage says:

    Have you ever thought that without all the free trade movement caused by EU Regulation it might be easier to control a Budget Deficit ?

    Buy British and Rule Britannia and all that .

  216. 216
    lojolondon says:

    Personally, nothing less than a 100% cut will do.

    Brave Dave started foolishly saying no increase, then he mentioned a ‘reasonable increase’. He is a complete fool because the best thing that can happen is he goes to Europe and says I asked for an increase and faced defeat in local parliament, so it is out of my hands. THAT is a good negotiating position, but dishonest.
    What he should do as our elected leader is to say ‘I do not support anything that is bad for Britain or British people, so we all agree in the UK – NO MORE MONEY FOR EUROPE.

    My way of talking to ‘cast iron’ Dave is to vote UKIP until he leaves.

  217. 217
    Barber of Seville says:

    But was he also a PIE rate?

  218. 218
    The Golem says:

    The first stage of a fifty year treason.

  219. 219
    Spare and completely unnecessary words R Us says:

    In England, one meets. One does not meet with.

  220. 220
    Spare and completely unnecessary words R Us says:

    Yes, I thought she sounded a bit hoarse last time she spoke….

  221. 221
    Spare parts in stock says:

    Send Boris or Bill Cash then.

  222. 222
    Spare parts in stock says:

    They may get their way, but they may not get our cash.

  223. 223
    Spare parts in stock says:

    Well, they both work very hard at being very fugly to look at.

  224. 224
    Mark Oaten says:

    MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

  225. 225
  226. 226
    barrowboy says:

    If you really believe we will run the country even if we leave the EU, you must have been living in a cave.

  227. 227
    Plodder says:

    nothing to see here – move along please

  228. 228
    Anarchists In Blazers says:

    That would be because we’re living in a one party state.

    But don’t be fooled into thinking that because your pro-Europe you’ve somehow got your way. You’ve been told that your ‘having it’ just like the rest of us, its just that you’ve yet to learn that they don’t care what you think.

    Its a shame that even though you don’t agree with us you can’t see that how we’ve been treated makes this countries claim to be a democracy a sham. Still I suppose with you its a case of ‘everyone has rights except those that I disagree with.’

  229. 229
    Tom Catesby says:

    Cleggie’s silly little hissy fit passing as a statement on the gov’t defeat sums the wanker up really.

  230. 230
    Tom Catesby says:

    At least the Libdems position on the EU budget vote last night, should further ensure that they are cast back into the political outer darkness for at least another century at the next general election, all being well.

  231. 231
    Tom Catesby says:

    P.S. Where’s our referendum you arseholes? Give the people of this country the opportunity to let Europe know loud and clear what we think about continuing to carry these basket case countries who continue to benefit from the crazy economics of the EU.

  232. 232
    darth vader says:

    take out the Rest Of World shipments which go through Rotterdam and the UK has a £50 Bn PA trade deficit with the EU so if thats the Europhile argument for staying in the EU then its a weak one.


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