October 31st, 2012

Government Line on EU Humilation

This was just sent to Tory MPs:

We hear and we take notice, as always, of what Parliament has said.

MPs on both sides of the vote want to see EU spending kept down as effectively as possible at a time of restraint and reductions at home. The only difference is about the tactics of doing so.

The Prime Minister has taken the toughest position of any Prime Minister in history – a freeze has never been achieved before – and when you realise 17 out 26 other countries are net gainers from the budget these will obviously be difficult negotiations.

The Prime Minister will continue to do everything possible to achieve the best deal we can deliver for the British taxpayer.

This is all in contrast to a Labour Party who never achieved a freeze, never even asked for freeze and allowed vast increases to British contributions to the EU budget. For them this has been about cheap politics rather than taking responsibility for how we get the best deal for Britain.

Licking the wounds


  1. 1
    Well it's a thought says:

    Seeing is believing, no doubt he will do his usual cast iron and sell us further into the EU


    • 3
      millibrand says:

      it dont matter Dave will do what he is told


      • 7
        Anonymous says:

        If Cameron cannot get 20% cut he should veto every thing that comes from EU till we get a cut.

        Or have a vote asking the people whether UK should leave EU.


        • 21
          Living in 98 percent white Merseyside says:

          At the last election didn’t the majority of those who bothered to vote did so for pro-Europe parties?


        • 25
          Anonymous says:

          Last time when Cameron vetoed, rest of the EU just want ahead ignoring him. Not sure whether Cameron knows how to use a veto.


          • V1le Labour ruined my Country says:

            Cameron should just refuse to pay anything from now on as we leave the corrupt EU. A refund of the last 10 years of payments would also be useful.


          • Nothing better to do says:

            Cameron probably doesn’t know how to use a urinal, he has his Fag to do it for him. The bloke has never even had a proper job, silver spoon all the way.


        • 216
          lojolondon says:

          Personally, nothing less than a 100% cut will do.

          Brave Dave started foolishly saying no increase, then he mentioned a ‘reasonable increase’. He is a complete fool because the best thing that can happen is he goes to Europe and says I asked for an increase and faced defeat in local parliament, so it is out of my hands. THAT is a good negotiating position, but dishonest.
          What he should do as our elected leader is to say ‘I do not support anything that is bad for Britain or British people, so we all agree in the UK – NO MORE MONEY FOR EUROPE.

          My way of talking to ‘cast iron’ Dave is to vote UKIP until he leaves.


        • 228
          Anarchists In Blazers says:

          That would be because we’re living in a one party state.

          But don’t be fooled into thinking that because your pro-Europe you’ve somehow got your way. You’ve been told that your ‘having it’ just like the rest of us, its just that you’ve yet to learn that they don’t care what you think.

          Its a shame that even though you don’t agree with us you can’t see that how we’ve been treated makes this countries claim to be a democracy a sham. Still I suppose with you its a case of ‘everyone has rights except those that I disagree with.’


    • 4
    • 22
      Anonymous says:

      If you are such an expert, can you tell us who we will trade with if we come out of the EU, how long it will take for us to get back to the same levels of trade as we have now etc.


      • 29
        Spot says:

        Stop being so stupid.


        • 138
          Budgie says:

          Spot, some people really do think that if we leave the EU we will not be able to trade with the EU. They get this false notion from europhile politicians.

          The real answer is that the UK and EU are full members of the WTO, so the UK will enjoy freer trade than now (since the EU’s existing ‘single market’ rules are both onerous and expensive).

          Even if the EU was spiteful, the WTO rules and procedures provide for dispute settlements. Besides the EU sells more to us than we sell to them so it is not in their own interests.


          • Quiet Bat Person says:

            A lot of what is counted as our sales to the EU is in fact just exports passing through Rotterdam. In fact it is then sent on to elsewhere in the world.

            Our freedom to run our own economy, free of undemocratic interference from Euro politicians and Goldman Sachs placemen, is more important, and will allow us better to compete in the world.


          • barrowboy says:

            If you really believe we will run the country even if we leave the EU, you must have been living in a cave.


      • 37
        Universal Hiss says:

        About 2 minutes.


        • 117
          ÁC1 says:

          Less than that. Once we leave the EUSSR customs cartel we can trade with the world freely.

          The number is negative as people will start preparing for the extra trade.


      • 41
        Anonymous says:

        We are in WTO, we will still have free trade with EU in the same way USA, China, etc have free trade with EU.

        Also we buy more from EU than we sell to them, if they don’t trade with us they will lose more than us.


      • 56
        Gordon's Beard says:

        Mug…now jog on


      • 142
        Who will we trade with ? says:

        The rest of the World you brainwashed retard. And by the way that also includes our European friends.


      • 196
        epianonymous says:

        we don’t make anything worth selling


    • 35
      Back to Basics says:


    • 73
      Finnpog says:

      What a cast iron, petulant hissy fit that communique that message is.
      Sounds like Clegg’s ringmaster has got his fingers in his ears already.


      • 87
        The Public says:

        Yes. Its funny how soon politicians forget who their real bosses are.


        • 202
          Nothing better to do says:

          No they don’t. Their bosses are bankers and big business. If you think us proles are in charge you need to up your medication.


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    • 150
      ÁC1 says:

      A film about wind “power” malinvestment,



    • 172
      Rev. Erendum says:

      In out shake them all about.The EU budget debate just reflects the great malaise in Britain’s relationship with the EU Commission and the European project. If the Ed’s can get their act together they can deliver the killer kick to the coalition and demand a pre 2015 referendum on membership. Britain can align on a voluntary basis without being in the EU Treaties. If it so chooses.


    • 173
      Glad to be out of it says:

      Dont forget the EU accounts have not been signed off for 15 years.


    • 210
      Dobbie says:

      Tories think they have a majority! They do not. Easier to herd bloody cats.


  2. 2
    Spode says:

    Let’s just get out.


    • 10
      Anonymous says:

      We should have a vote on it first.


      • 14
        UKIP.i.am says:

        Why? We never voted to go into this European union.


        • 28
          Anonymous says:

          Had it in the seventies, when the then conservatives took us into EU.


          • john in cheshire says:

            No, we were taken into a’Common Market’. This morphed, without any vote by we the people, into the EU, via the EEC.


          • Anonymous says:

            john in cheshire, same as what happened when we voted in 2010, we voted for something and ended up getting something else.


          • ÁC1 says:

            Not sure people voted for a copy of the economy on the wrong side of the Berlin wall.


          • Booo fcuking hooo says:

            @Anonymous “we voted for something and ended up getting something else”

            That’s how democracy works. Stop fucking whining.


          • Budgie says:

            Well, actually Boo Hoo we vote a new government in/out every five years – that’s democracy. Tell me when we last voted in/out of the EU, I must have missed it.


          • Fuck the EU says:

            I remember because I was there, we voted for a common market NOT a grey monolithic EUSSR tyranny !


          • Observer says:

            There was no referendum on entering the Common Market, which Ted Heath forced through the Commons with hard whipping and, I think, a majority of only one at some points. This was at odds with his earlier promise that there would be no entry without “the full-hearted consent of Parliament and people”.

            The referendum was under the subsequent Labour government and was about whether to stay in the newly entered Common Market, as it then was.


      • 16
        Dave says:

        I promise that I’ll promise you a referendum.


    • 34
      Biased Broadcasting Corporation says:

      Exactly! Dave & Co are determined for us to stay in this vile organisation no matter what the people want. But he is going to get a rude awakening soon. The people won’t stand for it.


      • 143
        Budgie says:

        I hope you’re correct, but Dave has been quite open about his support for the EU and the eurozone, particularly with our money.


        • 148
          Explains a lot says:

          Look you have to take account of the fact that our leading politcians have views whch spring from the fact that they were, in the main, buggered as young boys !


      • 205
        blub says:

        “The people won’t stand for it.”

        The europhiles are electing a new people – half a million a year.


  3. 5
    green ink says:

    PM has a realistic and pragmatic stance despite the flak


  4. 6
    PIP PIP says:

    I bet Sam will get a good thrasing tonight after Dave downs a bottle or two of red.


  5. 8
    UKIP.i.am says:

    It’s no good them moaning that this is the first time they have asked for a freeze. This is the first bull-blown European-created economic crisis. They still don’t get that the gravy has run out.


  6. 13

    What a Hunt!

    Fancy allowing himself to be boxed into this mess – by Miliband as well.



  7. 20
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    Smug mode.

    Great Britain out.


  8. 23
    Anonymous says:

    250 Tory MPs just decided they don’t want to be elected next time around….

    With Labour and UKIP pointing out that they voted for savings from ‘savage’ cuts to go into the EU’s coffers I don’t see how they’d fare well….


    • 38
      Spot says:

      How far away is the next GE? lot of water to go under the bridge by then.
      The comrades are currently fighting a difficult battle keeping the euro alive.


      • 49
        Father Christmas says:

        True. All the chocolate money in Lidl is in sterling this year.


        • 66
          Anonymous says:

          I agree. Milliband has played a blinder here.

          People’s pledge worried a lot of MPs, if the big issue at the next election is going to be europe then how they voted here could give them a lifeline at least… Especially against tories who voted for the savings from cuts to go to europe….


      • 122
        ÁC1 says:

        Saving the cancer is killing the patient.


  9. 24

    This isn’t some fucking Mediterranean republic, you know.


  10. 26
    Engineer says:

    I think that Germany, the UK and the Netherlands pretty well bank-roll the EU between them. There may well be other net contributors, but the proportion they add to the pot is neglgable compared to those three.

    If those three stand together during negotiations and say, “5% cut to budget or we stop paying”, what are the EU going to do about it? Invade?

    OK, I know it’s not that simple; but it is about time the unelected bureaucrats were put back in their boxes.


  11. 33
    Anonymous says:

    Fucking gutted that my local MP voted for the amendment.

    Won’t be able to use it against the Hunt at the next election now…


    • 95
      HenryV says:

      For once my useless tosser voted the right way. Still won’t stop me not voting for him or shouting him out the next time I see him. When I see him here it is always in the pedestrianised part of town so no handy buses to push him under. Just thought! Plenty of trees and lamp stands…….where’s me piano wire??????????


  12. 36
    Tachybaptus says:

    ‘We hear and we take notice, as always, of what Parliament has said.’
    Patently untrue, and the rest is blather.


  13. 40
    Hard Man Dave says:

    I will insist on a freeze to the EU budget (or maybe just a slight thaw to keep people happy)


  14. 42
    Trimbush says:

    This is all in contrast to a Labour Party who …..

    The Labour Party WHO ….. ? blimey !!

    Whatever next?


    • 47
      Angry Bird Bath says:

      Did they all turn up and vote or were there any Labour abstainers or rebels?


    • 51
      Pope Calixtus the Сunt-shaver says:

      You’re saying it should be ‘which’?
      ‘Manchester United, who have lost all their games this season …’
      ‘The Nazis, who are kind to fluffy bunnies …’


    • 165
      Observer says:

      The point would not, I hope, be that ‘which’ should be used. The indefinite article (‘a’) means that the correct wording would be “a Labour Party that . . .”

      Remember, ‘that’ defines and ‘which’ introduces new information.


  15. 48
    Pentangelis says:

    Whether we like it or not its true.
    Whilst I love a good Government ‘beating’ from time to time, the harsh reality is that we will not achieve any reduction, no matter how hard we try.
    The options then are either to fight for the best deal, like Maggie, seriously consider IN or Out, or just take the medicine like the spineless, gutless excuses for politicians in previous Labour Governments have done and will continue to do if they ever get into power again.
    The real lesson of this is once again the exposure of the Labour Party as mere opportunist politicians with absolutely no idea of what they want or even what to do next., let alone how to achieve it. Talk about the Emperor with no clothes. I bet E. MillibLand is a bit chilly tonight.


  16. 50
    dirt says:

    Those 250 Tories must surely feel lower than snakes balls this evening.


    • 55
      A greedy heartless politician says:

      Feel? Feeeeeeeeeeel?

      Ha ha ha ha ha.


    • 63
      Bob Fleming says:

      Agreed. Voted Tory all my life but UKIP from now on until Cameron gets it into his thick skull that the UK will leave the EU with or without him


      • 77
        Eddie says:

        Surest way to make Red Ed the PM and into Eurozone!


        • 96
          Who cares says:

          Most people have given up hope and don’t really care which LibLabCon party gets in , as people know the next vote is for being an indebted third world country run from another country, if one of these parties get in, the braindead will wake up and find we have no money to give them and will kick off, out of the ashes etc.


  17. 57
    Dr Who says:

    Is Britain Euro Skeptic?


    This is indeed good.


  18. 58
    Peter Bone says:

    In 1970 a Mars bar was 3½d. I got 2d pocket money for sweets on the way home from school, so it was years before I had one.

    I had a jolly tough childhood you know and lucky to survive the great trauma of it all.


  19. 60
    Ted "Jersey boys" Heath says:

    Can’t see what the fuss is, minority govt loses vote, big deal. Let’s cut the payments to the EU by leaving


  20. 67

    one two three four


  21. 69
    I hate Blue Labour says:

    No use pointing fingers at Labour, Tory twats, you’ve been in office 2 1/2 years now….


  22. 70
    Fawkes can't stop me posting no matter how hard he tries says:

    Cameron the c u n t doesn’t get it does he? Labour might be arseholes but the point is WE the people are fucked off with the corrupt thieving twats in the EU.


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    Spot says:

    Europe is a country that borrows money from the markets to finance its entire welfare payments to its citizens whilst generously handing out billions in overseas aid,not to mention the membership fee to the Society of Distressed European Farmers .
    The markets will have their revenge.


  25. 75
    The Tosser in No 10 says:

    I say you jolly chaps!!! This is more than yours truly can dashed well comfortably digest in one sitting! First my Wind Farm Scam goes off the rails, then my €USSR scam goes off the rails, and now it looks like trouble with my HS2 scam!

    What can a jolly chap do??? What? What wattage will I lose? What shall say to Herr von Rumpy-Pumpy or Frau Murkyl?


  26. 79
    Anon & never voted ZanuLieLabor & never will says:

    When we get out of the clutches of the EUSSR sooner rather than later

    CMDDD will ensure 100% our payments will continue !!!

    as part of his stubborn belief that is the right thing to do…..

    no doubt he will sight the ECHR legislation as his reason…………

    Many a true word said in jest………………!!!


  27. 80

    Topiary is about having a nicely trimmed bush.


  28. 82
    Who fucking cares? says:

    This used to be a good site once, now Fawkes is just keeping his paymasters happy.


  29. 84
    Over a Glass Darkly says:

    “The Prime Minister will continue to do everything possible to achieve the best deal we can deliver for the British taxpayer.”

    Weasel words. The “best deal possible” is an EU budget cut in real terms; nothing less. The alternative should be put clearly, without ambiguity: An ‘In/Out’ Referendum for the British people.

    All praise to Mark Reckless for his excellent work this evening.


  30. 88
    Tom watson, fantasyland says:

    I am making a sign to put on my window which will say:



  31. 89
    Saffron says:

    My understanding is that we voted for a Common Market and not something that has morphed into an attempt to impose a federal states of Europe onto nation states.
    There is only one way for us to go and if we had politico’s who have any sense of national pride instead of rubber backbones,they know which way that is.
    A referendum please with the simple question IN or OUT.


    • 97
      The Public says:

      Let’s just stop sending them any money.


    • 104
      Who cares says:

      Libore gave people a referendum for an EEC vote but it was a YES YES voting referendum, the newspapers kept quiet on it, BBC well we know they’re not biased, we know the rest, nice to see the newspapers dying, hopefully the BBC will follow or be sold.


      • 114
        Engineer says:

        The BBC are getting worse. They reported Heseltine’s speech as ‘a direct challenge to the government’ on Radio 4 6 o’clock news. It was so blatant I almost fell about laughing.


    • 162
      Anonymous says:

      Nope, the treaty we voted on promised ‘ever closer integration’.

      Heath and co lied, saying it was merely a common market.


  32. 94

    Since it seems only stupid posts are allowed to get by now (for me at least):

    The yews have it, the yews have it:



  33. 108
    Anonymous says:

    I think it’s a con. It would take more that one non- binding hostile vote to humiliate David Cameron. It’s not my idea of a disaster – if anything it strengthens his hand in the upcoming negotiations. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cam had been playing the Brer Rabbit trick of ‘please don’t throw me into the briar bush’ (and you have to be quite old to know that particular fable!)


  34. 111
    Camerons PRAM says:

    He is not sleeping like a baby. He is crying his fucking eyes out.


  35. 119
    Peeps says:

    Hey there Dickhead Dave, the way to save tax-payers’ hard-earned cash is to get the fuck out of the EC. Don’t just cut it, save it all.

    “The Prime Minister will continue to do everything possible to achieve the best deal we can deliver for the British taxpayer.”

    Don’t listen to those troughing snouty bastards in Parliament, listen to the fucking people.


  36. 121
    Bay City Ukipers says:

    Bye Bye Davey,
    Davey Bye Bye


  37. 124
    henrywood says:

    Hey Guido, Instead of all these easy targets you keep placing in your crosshairs, how about some information about the David -v- Goliath Battle between Tony Newbery and Boaden of the BBC. The poor guy can do with some help, or maybe only some truth, as is never published in the UK mainstream media. I love your blog but please, do not go down the “Celebrity” path like the rest of the creatures.


  38. 126
    The Boss says:


  39. 131
    robbie says:

    Those 50+ Tory rebels- suicidal. I should think that Tory CC will be starting a long campaign of constituency re-selection control before too long.


  40. 136
    Jimmy says:

    “This was just sent to Tory MPs”

    And, of course, to you.


  41. 140
    Chuka's Chick says:


    • 151
      Tom watson, fantasyland says:

      I’d be unhappy too if I had to look at your fucking ugly mush every time i went to work, you Champagne socialist hypocritical old bag.


    • 154
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      “Fur” Berger is basically an old style courtesan. Her fanny must be like a welly top.


      • 160
        Chuka Urmunneyaround says:

        It’s not that tight.


        • 164
          Chuka is a Hezza fan. Tells you all you need to know about both of the Twat s says:


          • dirt says:

            Strategy…that twat’s only strategy worries are which £2000 suit to choose for tv and which jumper and chinos combo to choose for those times when he meets the voters for photo ops


          • Spare and completely unnecessary words R Us says:

            In England, one meets. One does not meet with.


  42. 152
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Cameron is a weaselly cnut,

    Not so much the heir to Blair as the heir to Stephen Byers and Geoff Hoon.

    Well he can fuck right off and the Tories can forget about my vote until he’s gone.


  43. 157
    Bone On says:


    • 166
      Well it's a thought says:

      Good night for who, not the people of this country, you know fkin well Camoron will sell us out to get his master in as European El Presidente, 2015 Camoron say goodbye.


  44. 168
    Dave the Failure says:

    It’s just fucking amazing how Dave rejects vote winners.

    Cast Iron Guarantee of EU referendum.

    A veto that was not a veto

    A cutback in EU spending

    A halt in Windmills

    An end to Foreign aid protection

    Homosexual marriage

    And the list goes on

    Wot a Tw@t


    • 174
      albacore says:

      The whole point of being Tommy-opposite
      Is to train the plebs to take any old shit
      The fuhrer’s the fuhrer, even when he’s a tit
      All resistance is futile. You’ll get used to it


  45. 169
    Weybridgeman says:

    Ahhhh Diddums. Have a proper vote on the EU – In or Out (how difficult can that really be???) then you will get a lot of Labour Drifters as well and LibDem total exposure/nudtiy on this one. Until then…..you dont get my vote ……!


  46. 171
    Sir Mary Flappes. says:

    Out! We’ll save Ashton’s livery fees.


  47. 175
    neothesis says:

    “The Prime Minister has taken the toughest position of any Prime Minister in history – a freeze has never been achieved before – and when you realise 17 out 26 other countries are net gainers from the budget these will obviously be difficult negotiations”

    What is so difficult about saying NO? All Cameron has to do is say NO, we cannot afford any increase at all, why is he so afraid? And negotiations have not yet started and he comes over as wholly defeatist before the event, what kind of message does that send to the kommissars in Brussels? In order to negotiate properly the other side has to respect you, the truth is that the kommissars of Brussels know Cameron is a weak coward.

    If we had a real PM he would be full of confidence and fully prepared to dictate terms to Brussels telling them what the UK is prepared to pay. Even before he goes to his masters in Brussels he has lost because he has the mindset of a loser, even before the negotiations have started he believes he has failed so fail he most certainly will. Why is Cameron so frightened of the Brussels Mafia?

    What is lacking is self confidence and self assurance and courage, we clearly see a cowardly and weak PM unable and unwilling to stand up for British interests, if he goes with a defeatist mindset to a negotiations where the other parties know for a fact that he will not stand up and fight or issue any red lines then he has lost before he ever begins, he is a loser.


    • 176
      albacore says:

      Well, that depends on which side he bats for
      (Though this ain’t cricket, it’s undeclared war)
      It’s not what they say or the way that they say it
      Just watch how the LibLabCons actually play it


      • 188
        Anonymous says:

        words wail and veil over our eyes.
        Its the action
        and the reaction
        which matters.
        the rest is all talk no substance.,


    • 178
      Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

      Totaly agree.

      He could say, for instance: The people of England are not happy with the acounting of the EU, they would like to know that their money is being well spent, so, until the EU,s books are seen by an acountant of our choice and signed off, we shall be withholding any further payments.


      • 193
        neothesis says:

        Now that is the way to negotiate, you go in hard and with supreme self confidence and fully aware of the weakness of the other side, knowing these weaknesses you fully exploit them for your own advantage. Cameron goes to Brussels fully expecting to lose.

        But we have a PM that goes to Brussels as a loser clearly telling the other side that he is going to lose and that he will not bring any pressures or threats to bear, of course they are going to walk all over him if he presents himself as a door mat.


        • 214
          Having a giraffe says:

          Ok so Cameron says “no ” and then what happens ?

          Are all the other countries going to follow Mr Cameron and if so where is he going to lead them ?

          If you say “no ” at this party I think it means goodbye .

          You can of course try to negotiate free trade agreements but I cannot see much appetite for this in mainland Europe .

          The British people have ended up with David Cameron as Leader because he is the Leader they deserve .


        • 221
          Spare parts in stock says:

          Send Boris or Bill Cash then.


  48. 177
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’ll let Scameron rent my rocking horse but he can provide his own Nokias.


  49. 179
    Cressida's Dick says:

    How’s the he*adache Dave? There’s plenty more to come. 54 of your MPs can see the endgame. You’re just too blind/stupid/arrogant to work it out.

    In/Out referendum now.


  50. 181
    Grollace says:

    What about the other 8 states who not only want to carry on being net EUSSR contributors but also want to increase their payments by as much as 5%?
    Perhaps their leaders ought to have a compulsory test for schizophrenia that analyses a person’s stare.
    Do the words “rabbit” and “headlights” come to mind?


  51. 183
    Kebab Sockpuppet says:

    The government’s giving £12.8 million to the Manchester Cancer Research Centre.” Fucksakes!


  52. 184
    Lou Scannon says:

    Can someone please explain to me what the recent Conservative conference was in aid of ? What did it achieve ?
    We’ve got the same tosser in no. 10 claiming to be a Tory but acting like continuity-Brown and refusing to listen to the voters. He peddles outright lies about what the majority of voters obviously think about the EU. He shows spectacularly bad judgement in his choice of advisors and seems happy to buy into each and every scam provided that he’s bunged a few thousand quid.


    Cameron has got to go. Make it soon, please.


  53. 185
    Taxfodder says:

    Good bye Dave hello Boris…


  54. 186
    Sig Hansen says:

    Its all a con he got what he wanted

    This way he does not have to placate the Cleglet and can tell the Mandarins at the EU he tried, it also exposes totally Labours rank hypocrisy and cynical opportunism.

    Liebour will also now find it hard to change there attitude for this new found enthusiasm for getting tough on the EU having spent 11+ years surrrendering whatever they demanded inc the Rebate

    For once Cameron played a blinder


  55. 189
    Kebab Sockpuppet says:

    Pinch, punch – the first of the month!” << Ha.


  56. 191
    Raving Loon says:

    Er…the vote isn’t binding, the EU will get their way in the end.


  57. 194
    UKIP.i.am says:

    Does this mean that Labour are the party of Little Englanders and fruitcakes now?


  58. 195
    jeananonymous says:

    I hear David Cameron has told Ed Miliband to stop playing politics with the EU

    Funny, I nearly died


  59. 197
    Chef Kebab says:

    What to do with the pumpkin now ?? Well It’s going in the slow cooker for 4 hours and hopefully make a nice a hearty pumpkin soup.


  60. 201
    Vote UKIP says:

    Camoron is a dead man walking. It’s over. The barbarians will take over. All this was so unnecessary. The Tory party may even be finished. But the Conservatives brought this all on themselves. Sad really.


  61. 206
    Greychatter says:

    We should start with cutting the salaries of the EU commission and EU MPs.

    I understand that Baroness Ashton is the Highest paid politician in the world and “Van Rompold” is paid more than President Obama.

    What a waste of our money, what do either of them do for the money?


  62. 213
    Dave the Failure says:

    Yippee. What a lovely distraction from my Governments appalling continuing Deficit. The net UK contribution to the EU is circa £10 billion. per YEAR. The Deficit is £10 billion per MONTH.



    • 215
      Hannibal from Carthage says:

      Have you ever thought that without all the free trade movement caused by EU Regulation it might be easier to control a Budget Deficit ?

      Buy British and Rule Britannia and all that .


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    Plodder says:

    nothing to see here – move along please


  65. 229
    Tom Catesby says:

    Cleggie’s silly little hissy fit passing as a statement on the gov’t defeat sums the wanker up really.


  66. 230
    Tom Catesby says:

    At least the Libdems position on the EU budget vote last night, should further ensure that they are cast back into the political outer darkness for at least another century at the next general election, all being well.


  67. 231
    Tom Catesby says:

    P.S. Where’s our referendum you arseholes? Give the people of this country the opportunity to let Europe know loud and clear what we think about continuing to carry these basket case countries who continue to benefit from the crazy economics of the EU.


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