Flashman Dave Snaps at Tory Rebel
Prime Minister Swears at Andrew Bingham MP
Tempers are fraying in the run up to tonight’s vote. Guido hears that Cameron was at a drinks gathering for northern Tory MPs. Andrew Bingham was there and got the full Flashman treatment as a consequence of having signed the Reckless amendment. The Prime Minister is reported to have lambasted the Member for High Peak saying:
“What do you think you are doing? This isn’t some f**king sixth-form debating society.”
Temper, temper Dave…
UPDATE: Apologies to Andrew Bridgen whom we originally misreported getting the ear full.
UPDATE II: Bingham denies the story his colleagues report, yet the Prime Minister’s official spokesman was very mealy mouthed.
@GuidoFawkes the PM did not swear at me at all. I was part of a small group chatting. The conversation was entirely cordial—
Andrew Bingham MP (@HighPeakAndrew) October 31, 2012
Oh dear Dave, you really are Europhile Toff trash!
Exactly! So get real Dave, and get us out “toot sweet”!
It’s “bastards!” all over again.
And only throw a tantrum when you are totally in control- of yourself and the situation.
Always worked for me.
“What do you think you are doing? This isn’t some f**king sixth-form debating society.” At least Dave Boy has got that right, it always sounds much more like a fight in an infant school playground , the whole lot of them want to grow up, this a total defamation of 6th form debating societies.
Nokias are far more effective.
David is not the Messiah, he is a very naughty boy ! …… as they would say in Monty Python
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I know Cameron’s doctor. The diagnosis is Nokia Brownitis.
For once I agree with David Cameron. That’s what he needs to tell all these Little Englanders.
Dave Boy should have done it a long time ago, it’s a bit late to start laying down the law now, the rebels smell blood and are ready for an easy meal
He loses the vote and the whole sham of parliamentary sovereignty evaporates, wins the vote and UKIP does nicely in the EUros.
Hang ‘im
Hang im twice
Isn’t Bridgen the one who got his collar felt for trying to use Biggles’ mistress as a glove puppet?
Allegedly.
BRIDGEN THE ONE WHO GOT ARRESTED FOR TOUCHING SOME WOMEN.
I THINK HE GOT OFF IN THE END.
As I recall she didn’t stay long enough for that to happen.
you jimmy drink my piss
Charming, absolutely charming.
Only if you eat my shite
He is of course quite correct.
Cameron’s rattled and when he’s rattled he obviously loses it. Leaders, real leaders, never do that.
Cameron’s job is like being the parent of very young children. No matter how much you love them, there are times when you just can’t help getting angry with them. Dealing with recalcitrant newbie backbenchers must be very similar.
Except Cameron is the one with soiled underwear and beleiving in faery tales, and the people he’s angry with are the adults.
Stupid little toff is always throwing his toys out, one spoilt little brat
You should listen to yourself. Your childlike comparisons may seem profound to juveniles, unfortunately you are dealing with adults here.
Cameron is just demonstrating his inability to lead.
Leading means inspiring and motivating others to bond and follow, building rapport and team spirit, combining and promoting common objectives, goals and ambitions, not shouting down subordinates, bullying, chastising, de-motivating or protecting your position against the group.
I would take a few leadership courses if I were you, as you clearly are as unaware as Dave how to do it.
Ooooh – get you! Let me guess – in real life you sell leadership courses to people? And I bet they find them a complete waste of time and money?
Oh get over yourself. You sound like a career civil servant. Or someone who sells leadership courses to people gullible enough to think they’ll do any good.
Wow, you are channelling Stewart Pearson from The Thick of it.
You just proved my point, congratulations.
Thanks – yes, I did think it was rather a good impression.
Archer – no idea what your point was, other than pasting the wikipedia entry on leadership techniques.
Cameron’s job is to promote himself and create a legacy for his CV. His MPs are jeopardising his future employment prospects at the EU and other International bodies. That is the cause of his anger.
The Gravy train for parasites!
Absolute bollocks.
As opposed to relative bollocks?
Oh grow up! Didn’t you hear what Dave said? This isn’t some 6th form debating society. Everybody, especially real leaders, lose their rag. They are HUMAN!! I don’t want some lizard automaton running my country! No matter how much he looks like our Dave.
http://bit.ly/AutoDave
“What do you think you are doing? This isn’t some f**king sixth-form debating society.”
Right Cameron, so stop treating it as such. Give us the referendum you promised.
Cameron lost the backing of 81 backbenchers last year, it seems that he hasn’t learnt anything since.
Ditch the bastard in the Channel.
He is not correct. It is more like a prep school debating society!
We didn’t promise a vote on the ‘Lisbon Treaty’. We promised a vote on the ‘Constitutional Treaty’.
Sure it is 99.99% the same thing just with a different name but it’s completely different (even though it’s 99.99% the same just with a different name) and that’s why we’re not having a referendum like we promised.
Golly, aren’t we clever.
No. It isn’t a sixth form debating society. That would probably be quite mature and reasonable. This is more like nursery playtime with custard pies. Tw*t.
Dead right. I went there with my girlfriend almost 30 years ago (ie before TV cameras). She had an interest in politics and had written to her MP and we had tickets for the public gallery.
It was exactly like fifth form debating soc at school. Hooting, shouting speakers down.
I was horrified. The fate of the nation being decided by a bunch of people whose mind-set was still at the level that would have them drawing a pair of hairy bollocks in their school bible.
Nothing I have seen or heard since leads me to believe it has in any way improved. It does though explain how one or two incompetent thugs can gather a gang of equally incompetent jackasses around ‘em and totally fuck up the economy. The whole place is like ‘Lord of the Flies’ set in a stately home.
Exactly, AoL and jgm. Even before reading your comments I said to myself that sixth-form was optimistic – fourth-form would be more accurate.
Miliband’s Labour is now increasingly an idea-free zone, let alone a policy-free one, hence their ‘tactics’ in this debate.
Infantile, unthinking, tribal tossers, the lot of ‘em.
Ho hum modded, second attempt.
+1 and +1
How about “it sounds like a fight in an infant school playground
It’s the swearing I object too. He ‘s entitled to be angry but not to use such language,
I agree. man’s a fucking uneduacted posh pussy. Shove a nokia up his arse.
I couldn’t give a rat’s arse about swearing, incompetence is another matter.
Agree!
The PM is not leading his party or the country. He might be an able administrator (I do not know) but he does not appear to be a leader. Contempt for his subordinates and for the British people is all to visible.
Apologies – too!
Not very good on the PR front either
He’s right; sixth-form debating societies tend to have more intelligent debates.
It is not that poor debating is wrong, it is the fact the poor MP thought debating was allowed at all. Debate is not part of the EU. Undermining the EU is prohibited.
Come on. Democracies would never elect people with the charisma of a damp rag, it’s discriminatory against those with zero leadership skills.
+1. Dave is just a caretaker until the final stage of total subjugation to the Brussels octopus is completed.
He will be well rewarded by those he serves, unfortunately those he serves, do not include the British people.
But the British people will not vote for Dictator Dave next time. So every time he opens his stupid mouth, it’s another nail in his gold plated coffin.
The only debating Dave does is master bating.
Vile little creep throws his soiled tissues out
the pram as well. …
how many dave-ites are farmers concerned about off-setting phoney farm lasses against MP’s pay?
It’s not a sixth-form debating society. It’s parliament. Where members represent their constituencies. God forbid people might think for themselves instead of just bowing the knee to the party whip on every issue. That might lead to, you know, democracy. FFS.
Oh you are naiive. You will be advocating delivering manifesto promises next
Our manifesto promises are not subject to legitimate expectation. And I have a legal ruling to back that up.
I gave up because they did my spine in. The one’s with the caste-iron guarantees are the heaviest.
he’s a mate of jimmys
Absolutely. When I cast my vote for a Conservative, I do so in the hope that my MP will then decide to do whatever the hell he/she likes without any reference to the Conservative Party manifesto. I expect nothing but total disloyalty to a Conservative Government and the gifting of cheap political advantage to Labour or any other party I decided not to vote for. It never crosses my mind that my fellow voters and I, having returned a Conservative MP, might actually be represented by someone who acts like one.
Get real, FFS.
Oh yeah why not? After all nothing the Tory Party are doing was in their manifesto! Maybe the rebels need to stick to the manifesto and show Camoron and his cronies up!
Manifesto pledges are not subject to legitimate expectation.
The courts backed the raving loon Brown on that too.
Meaning that once past the winning post, parties can now ditch everything they said and do as they please, without legal challenge.
Yet another resounding ‘success’ from the party that brought you the dung heap, ‘progressive’ Labour, turned this country into and gratefully accepted by Cameron’s coalition of fabians, without question.
But then the MP has the option of not getting elected next time. Either way he might think he will lose. So why not do the right thing?
Outburst are a demonstration that a person can not argue the facts. It then clearly indicates that the policy is simply a belief. I believe the MP won.
Didn’t they promise a referendum………………….?
David Cameron never promised a referendum.He has always been firmly opposed to a referendum. There will never be a referendum.
Doubleplusungood.
I would agree, if the Conservative Party Manifesto was actually a Conservative one, but it was not and is not!
Who decides that, if not the Conservative Party?
This story was picked up by the Daily Planet yesterday .
Has anyone seen Larry ?
I just want to make it clear, I have no more connection with that enterprise and I am not the one who reported it.
http://order-order.com/2012/10/23/is-it-bird-is-it-a-plane-no-it-is-super-blogger/
Borisido Boriswkes
You have gone very quiet on the BBC/Saville bashing…As have the Daily Mong and The Torygraph.
We can only wonder why….It’s coming Guido, its coming !!!!.
I’ll give you a clue. 80’s and Chequers. You can work out the rest.
…I’ll give you another clue… Denis wasnt involved
Beano?
The Dandy?
Desperate Dan ate the pies?
Hague knows where the bodies are
It sounds as if you are cuming.
Still, not bad for one-handed typing.
Hope you are not going to try and implicate Disraeli.
Are you talking about Margaret Thatcher’s Christmas dinner which was paid for by the taxpayer ?
Keep it coming, Moussa
Didn’t think the Tories had any MPs in the North?
When was Leicester ever in the North? Did Blair’s Education, Education, Education never cover the geography of Great Britain?
Looks like there won’t be many in the south soon from what I hear.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No Dave…a 6th form debating society might have more policies, more ability and more spine than the party under your leadership.
Showing his true colours!
Quite right
That must come as a real shock to the bookies .
I voted Conservative at the 2010 General Election and canvassed for the party, but was not expecting Britain’s defence services to be cut to finance an increase in our EU payments and overseas aid.
In my school we couldn’t afford a debating society. We sorted it out in the playground man to man….except for the girls that is
Ah yes Freddie, the good old days, when arguments were settled ‘man to man’. This country is now full if scared nan.cy boys.
A good punch in the gob, when deserved, was much fairer, and over in seconds.
Agreed Fred and Marmite. Mind you, the girls were far more ferocious than the lads at my school. Absolutely lethal they were.
Fu,cking shitting bricks now you mention us.
In my school the girls sorted it out man to man.
Bridgen should know his f***ing place, he doesn’t run this f***ing Government, f***in pleb.
Man doesn’t realise when his ass has been bought and paid for.
We know about it all right.
Of course he should Jonno. Just another Fag – Imagine giving cheek to the Head Boy (and such a giving Head Boy. Head of House will be jolly cross.
Now, fetch my toast you f***ing pleb.
In sixth form, the corruption might extend to having a hand in the tuck shop profits. I think Flashman is playing with rather bigger stakes here, and has much more important plans for himself and his friends. If only our politicians were as honest as the average sixth former.
Why Was a Midlands MP at a reception for Northern MPs?
Your toff doesn’t use ‘North’ as a geographical term. This is because in toff world there is no ‘North’. Consequently ‘North’ is used more or less as synonymous with ‘working class waste land’, or ‘where the scum live’, or ‘beware here be plebs’. Hope this helps.
But I live in the south
No no my good fellow you actually live in the ‘Sarf’ which is very close to ‘up North’. Now do move along.
To bulk up numbers.
So Leicestershire is in the north?
Free drinks?
It is to Londoners. Anywhere north of Watford Gap.
Still, they’ve got more immigrants than us.
And far, far more than us.
Well said, sir!
It sounds as if Mr Cameron has been on the pop again .
” Just because you’re losing ! “
Thank you for reminding us how uncivilised some Americans are
I don’t be done agreeing with you and then some, boy!
So? No one never been sworn at by their boss. What a lot of shrinking violets we have nowadays.
But that is no reason for drinking whilst on public service and expecting the taxpayer to pay.
Was Cameron pissed up as usual ?
What stone have you crawled from under my good friend ?
Bin ich Katholisch?
Dave has been to the fridge and got a can of man the fu#kup
Out of Europe! Put an end to the crap!
Seriously? This is what counts as a story for Guido now? Writing for the Star has clearly resulted in a loss of mojo…
Mojo?
Get you, you meterosexual bitch. Strutting your stuff down Old Compton Street again tonight big boy?
Its our fault
I would have thought it WAS a sixth form debating society.
In the real world, when something clearly isn’t working, is structuraly flawed and not fit for purpose, you get your finger out and produce a constructive plan to remedy the situation, or, if that is not possible, you cut your fucking losses and walk away !
Conservatives should have had a set of costed proposals for sorting out the EU ready on day one and a press team bombarding the public at home and in other EU countries with the details .
Its called taking the initiative, its what leaders are paid to do.
Are you a sixth former ?
I hope so
Your man is now fatally wounded…but will limp on until 2015.
Shall I shoot him?
Can you do it at about 9 o’clock please ?
It doesn’t have to be this way. For the sake of the country the Lib Dems should pull the plug.
Samantha should divorce him, for the swearing and the lies. She deserves so much better
+1056.2
He only has to make it to 2014. Scottish (and English) independence will take care of the imbecile tendency after that.
Sadly it won’t happen.
I’m voting yes to free you of your jock obsession if it helps.
Calm down dear, its only a vote.
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If this was a sixth form debating society then I think Mr Cameron would lose .
Just how he managed to get into Oxford and exit with a first class degree remains one of life’s true mysteries .
Mass debating. Just what Cameron is good at.
Dave got a first in PPE, it’s the intellectual equivalent of getting a first seat on the short bus.
And your first from Oxford was in…?
Borisido Boriswkes was in Meedyah Studies…LOL
I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth.
“We need 50 and we’re at 46,” one Tory rebel leader said to me just now.
There’s a growing mood around here that the rebels won’t get there, that Ed Miliband piling in on David Cameron in the chamber at PMQs and comparing him to John Major hasn’t helped Tory rebel recruitment and that it’ll be close but not defeat for the PM. But the debate could still swing people so it’s not over just yet.
46 who are prepared to nail their colours to the mast. Are their 4 more Conservatives in the house?
i.e. are there 4 more MPs with spines in the house?
John Major kept us from the Euro so he can’t be all bad.
He was neither wholly bad or wholly good .
Indeed, a bit of a grey area there…
Yes, 50 shades of….euuuuurgh, no….
*Mindbleach*
Just tell them to forget Milliband and do what is right for the country .
They will have a better chance in a snap election and will not have lost their seats to boundary changes .
Not a wise comparison from Militwit. I’m in a minority on this point here but I suspect Cameron will do to Mili what Major did to Kinnochio in 1992.
Could easily happen.
As others have pointed out – by this stage in the electoral cycle the bedwetters were 20% ahead under Kinnock. And still lost.
Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha ! Ha !
But the Daily Planet was !
UPDATE: Apologies to Andrew Bridgen, it was in fact Andrew Bingham who got the ear full.
But does Mr Cameron think he was talking to Andrew Bridgen ?
They all look the same to me.
Cameron shouted at the wrong guy. Bingham is a normal not some hardcore anti EU backbencher with an axe to grind. Doesn’t look good when you can’t see/know the difference. Plus if the non-akward squad are signing you’re really in trouble.
Em do think it is the old teacher’s trick slamming down the least offensive child in the class when does something wrong, so the others start thinking,”the teacher is saying that/doing that to the least troublesome inthe class, what will he/she do to me”
Stay calm and carry on…….. happens to the best of us
It was not me – I wouldn’t be caught dead talking to a northerner!
Just some idiot from Primrose Hill .
How’s your blood pressure Christine?
Primrose Hill is the north!
I’m done !
sick to death of being modded
i think they drink more than Guido
Just a question of ……. sorry, what was the question?
My name wasn’t mentioned was it?
Oh and you ain’t seen me,right?
Was that not you I saw in the park with those envelopes ?
Can I use your bog?
Cameron. Leader of the Conservative Party. Not a leader. Not a Conservative.
How very true but you have to ask what exactly the true Conservatives are going to do about it, Most are likely to lose seats at the next election.
Once Scotland goes independent the T*ries can afford to lose a few seats.
But can the Jockanese afford to lose a few billion?
There is a limited market for alkies, wife beaters, fried mars bars
,haggis and tartan
With a bit of luck that won’t occur to them until after we get independence.
Many many years ago Beast was doing his RCB and was tipped off by a colonels daughter not to swear at people( I fucking swear all of the time)
If you do the letters NCOM will be put against your name
NON COMMISIONED OFFICER MATERIAL
Never lose your temper (I fucking do that regularly when I dgaf) just be calm and authoritive if you wish to get a point across , menace also helps
Lord Dave is what is commonly known as a “leg iron”
He holds good men (and women) back due his dithering and all round pussiness
Throw him to the wolves
UPDATE II: Bingham denies the story his colleagues report, yet the Prime Minister’s official spokesman was very mealy mouthed.
Flashman Cameron, loses his rag, what will he lose when one day he is arrested along with many other Politicians for Treason. The British People will get their democracy back one day.
Do you think he will lose his temper with Mrs holland and Mr merkel ?
Well someone was definitely making a noise from inside Downing Street and it wasn’t Larry the cat .
You fucking arselicker !
I bet you allowed him to flog you in his study and thanked him for every stroke
I will cordially tell you to f$€k off if I loose my EU pay outs
Is it 1872? Dennis, time for elevenses. Woop woop!
Who cares ??
THIS IS JUST A JOY !!!!!!
No matter what happens…you are now doooommmmed !!!
Tearing yourselves apart…LOL
It is a joy because the prime imbeciles have absolutely no solutions to the situation they will find themselves in, other than borrowing more which will last about 6 months until the IMF turns off the taps.
It is going to be real joy to watch ’cause the leeches and their patrons are gonna find themselves without a host to leech off.
The conversation was entirely cordial … about as cordial as Mitchell’s conversation with the policeman on the gate? Or maybe that’s what passes for cordial from Cameron in private?
I`m sure it does. Maybe if he practices his foul mouth more extensively he will be able to fuflil his aspiration to become an ordinary working class bloke and possibly even get a job on a building site when he is booted out as PM
If England were to leave the Union and not Scotland, then Scotland would remain a Member of the EU .
The English would be out of Europe and would have to reapply for entry if they wished to do so .
There was a young man from Oxfordshire
Who’s pants were perpetually on fire
By winds he was torn
And by Lib Dem was shorn
And all for the lack of a spine
I’m totally and utterly disgusted by Dave’s assertion that the Mother of Parliaments is not a Sixth Form Debating Society.
The all wise ones in the EU (like me) take all the decisions.
The so-called Westminster Parliament actually does have all the power and influence of a sixth form debating society. Take the much reported “defeat” for our creature Dave last night. Will it make any difference to the money we extract for our project?
Of course not! You have no choice.
Dave, and all the host of other officials on our payroll will do exactly as they are told, whatever your sixth form debating society says.
Welcome to the post-democratic era in which decisions are made not by the representatives of the great unwashed but by “the international community” and their pay masters in big business.
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