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Nigel Farage hits the nail on the head:
“This olive oil ban was virgin on the ridiculous.”
Bill Quango MP says:
Ned Flanders – Clegg
Lisa Simpson – Natalie Bennett
Milhouse – Hilary Benn
Martin Prince – Andy Burnham
Edna Krabappel – Luciana Berger
Crazy Cat Lady – Glenda jackson
Comic book guy – John Prescott
Carl – Chucka
Lenny – Philip Hammond
Willie – Eric joyce
Poochie – Gordon Brown
Reverend Lovejoy – Tony Blair
“The printed of Hansard costs us a million pounds-a-year”
Possibly because they proof read.
I’m with Jimmy on this one. An electronic only version would open the floodgates to the most awful abuse of our fine language.
£1m is a small price to pay to prevent that from happening.
They could use the ‘print’ button to produce one copy which they secure with a big staple – that would probably cost less than £1m
INNIT
Presactly
Even if they discontinued the printing it would probably cost about the same. I think MPs should cough up for printing costs of their own copies though.
What are you talking about? What printed edition? Hansard has always been published electronically. You can check the records for yourself. Electronically.
http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/hansard/
Doesn’t really matter….. if they go digital they’ll just get all smug and shit away any savings on more expenses. Bastards.
Where is my fucking money?
Hi !!!
I’m the ONLY hope for the EUSSR!
Gornn! – givus the job!
Of course it is, now for those subsidized bars…
You sir an American apologist for using subsidized and I claim my 5 free anal probings’.
The digital only version will be easier for Big Brother to doctor in future
Precisely.
Can somebody edit this comment to read “O Praise Our Glorious Leaders”? Thanks.
Shit unhappens.
Why not just doctor it straight away like Ed Balls and Mandy did?
Back to dark ages? Time to move on!
No neither and print it in the Grauniad with a £10 per MP per month levy
I bet ‘our’ expenditure in propping up that lefty rag called the Grauniad with loads of costly advertising is a good deal more than £1m p.a? Time for some real savings, and the loss of this awful paper and all who sail in her (ie Ms Toynbee and her ilk).
£1million a year? Wow like in the grand scheme that is lots of money. Not printing Hansard would be such a mistake. And I say that as an ex-IT professional and a historian.
Progress is need cost savings are essential
Agreed – so let’s halve the number of MPs then.
Alternatively, don’t dish out free iPads…
Why hasn’t Leon Brittan faced justice? According to comments online, it’s been an open secret since the 80s he fiddled with some kids. Is he another one who’ll have to die of old age before the truth emerges?
I’d heard about it from gossip going round in the voluntary sector in Hackney. There was kind of a social workers’ case review into it in Tower Hamlets.
even There were jokes on TV at the time: I remember that awful Ben Elton telling one, though he didn’t name him everyone who knew, knew what he was talking about and those who didn’t know didn’t need to be too smart to fgure it out.
Printing it makes it difficult to go back and edit anything embarrassing out
Which is an excellent reason for keeping the printed version.
£1m well spent in that case. The only problem is that MPs are able to ‘correct errors’ ie deny/change what was said, so the printed version can be tampered with before it’s produced.
In a democracy, nothing exists if it isn’t written down. It is a necessary tenant of proper democracy for our legislature to be recorded, and recorded in the correct manner.
Whilst having Hansard online is a great tool, what would happen if tomorrow the internet died? We would have no record of the goings-on of Parliament, a perhaps more dangerous alternative to paying a million pounds a year.
Like the German proverb says:
“Law is like sausage; those with weak stomachs ought not to watch it being made.”
That comparison does raise the prospect that, on an internet-only basis, it would be typed in the dark whist at the same time fumbling to get that blasted bra undone.
Wankers as usual
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/10/29/boaden_tribunal_information_refusal/
We’re all gaping and lubed up ready.
hahahahahaha I do hope that out Mr Hook is ok in New York, not 100% sure if he can swim or tread water
our not out …. oops.
So is Choudray saying that any natural disasters which befall populations in Muslim countries should be celebrated and no aid or assistance offered ?
That’s what I think. Let the fuckers die.
Do Irasel while you’re at it.
So when his landlord doesn’t fix the hole in his roof this winter, and it rains, Mr Choudary will know what the God of Abraham thinks of him.
Just shows what poisonous twaddle a belief in God produces. They should be mocked; laughter is like sunshine and exposes humbug. They can’t kill everyone.
What about earthquakes ?
Life and weather is always perfect in rag head land. No earthquakes, droughts, famine or devastating acts of nature. Allan, you at bar ?
Yes indeedy. there were lots of postings all over the world claiming that the earthquake and tsunami that hit Indonesia was God’s wrath on those nasty Indon muzzys for blowing up people all over the place.
Time to move on.
Digital is not the correct storage mechanism for records of this importance.
Digital is neither secure nor permanent.
Would you be happy to have the deeds to your house saved on a USB stick?
Well said, people should be aware that in 50 years time all those digital pics of them and their families probably wont exist ?
If the way my CD collection deteriorated is anything to go by, it will take less time than that.
If the MPs had to pay for their copies, presently free, I suspect that the only copy required would be the library one
Britain ‘sorely needed’ in EU, says German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble
German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble has urged Britain to remain strongly engaged in the European Union, responding to a tide of Euroscepticism that Berlin fears could sweep London towards the exit.
You have to laugh don’t you?
You sure it’s not just the money they need they need us for?
Why then do they all gang up on us and don’t listen to a word we say! Then every one just goes off and does exactly what the Germans tell them to do!
Sure thick Hunts can read?
The printed version will be around for a long time, and beyond careful storage, will need no maintenance. We have documents over a thousand years old, still in a consultable state. Will we still have the technology to read electronic versions in a century or so? Will we be willing to spend the upgrade costs every ten years or so?
Publish both. The electronic version will be of use in the short term. The print version will be the long term archive version.
MPs voted themselves £10,000 a year each in expenses to pay for their IT infrastructure (LOL, to set up a Facebook account?), 648 x £10,000 = a cost of £6 million and 480,000 per year… pay’ed out to twitter twats.
The Black Pearl has gone down to Davy Jones locker (Hurricane Sandy).
You spend my money
You drink my best red wine
You think it’s funny
To see me all the time
Sitting with my head hanging down
Treating me just like a clown
You spend my money
But come on honey don’t waste my time
When you get older
You’ll see what you have done
You hung on my shoulder
And loved me just for fun
But some day when I’m older too
I’m gonna come and make fool out of you
You spend my money
And honey
You sure did waste my time
You spend my money
You drink my best red wine
You think it’s funny
To see me all the time
Sitting with my head hanging down
Treating me like a clown
You spend my money
Come on honey don’t waste my time
More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/s/status_quo/#share
Shift to an electronic version only, yes. Not tablet only, though – most of us can’t afford iPads. The MPs would probably agree to only people with tablets reading what they’ve been saying – they don’t want the proles breathing down their necks.
I’d also be interested in changing the rules on ‘Parliamentary language’ so that they have speak plainly, rather than in the legalese-double-speak that baffles ordinary people. Again, they wouldn’t like that, would they?
And limit all speeches to 5 minutes max. That would slow down the time-wasting, waffling windbags….
If you can’t make your point in this time than there is something wrong.
Paper burns much more readily than CDs etc
Ever tried burning a book? It’s just about impossible.
No it isn’t, Fahrenheit 451.
Steady on there…. any mention of Lord Boothby?
You would go to a kiddie fiddle for marriage guidance wouldnt you?
At least with Prince spaz we know that he prefers the more mature type of lady
Maybe it was necrophillia that he and the late Sir Jimmy discussed
Shagging worn out husks of humanity
Charles never slipped me one post mortem (and only twice during life)
I could never get over the fact that his breath didnt stink of curry
I think it was just once actually – the other one was Hewitt’s
Correct!
Correct.
Chaz did his best to cure my itch – even with a broken arm! (You do not know how the more mature vagina reacts to neglect don’t you? – use it or lose it!)
I’m told it heals up if not entered frequently.
Thumbs up !
uhuhuhuh
Why do righties hate books?
The Jockanese use them as kindling or as padding for their less than bulging undies
Give me a W&g everytime
same reason us lefties talk shite
Just because I’m up the stick and out of my tree, you are not to demean or abuse me – electronically – or otherwise!
Mr Millimilliminute says so!
Now reinstall me in No 10! At once I SAY! – OR THERE’LL BE NOKIA HELL!
This is good news
Perhaps British Judges will start doing their work
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/rate-swap-scandal/9641721/Libor-Judge-forces-Barclays-to-reveal-names-of-staff-involved-in-rate-rigging.html
We want the names of all these criminals
And then prosecutions and jail for them…
There is some hope yet of justice
No doubt our two-faced idiot MPs will be in full cry when the names appear (and the Limp Dumbs in particular will sound even more sanctimonious than usual).
Strangely, MPs don’t seem quite so keen to hang and flog when it comes to thieving money under the guise of ‘expenses’.
This is in stark contrast to the Boaden story at No 19 above. Wish these legal types would make up their minds whose side they are on!
Toot toot!
Books survive even fire fairly well, hard drives can be erased easily. Bit of a no brainer for something so important.
Hard print can never be retrospectively altered…electronic copies can.
Hard copies for ever please
Hansard isn’t printed for the benefit of the members but for the benefit of the country at large. The idea of taking the entire ongoing history of legislative debate in this country and sticking it on a website with no hard copy is pretty troubling.
Hansard and free iPads are only half the story .
At least if you give MPs an ipad each then they cannot keep claiming for umpteen toner cartridges .
The other good thing about ipads is that the fuckers will have no excuse for not visiting this site and learning what we really think about them .
Digital is far too easy to alter.
Would you trust any politician not to change history?
It would be Stalinist revisionism part two.