October 29th, 2012

May We Have a Short £200,000 Recess, Your Honour?

You’ve got to hand it to Geoffrey Cox QC MP. The Tory member for Torridge and West Devon has almost quadrupled his yearly wage as an MP by moonlighting as a Queen’s Counsel.

In the last month Cox declared earnings of over £200,000 through his work as a barrister. His clients include none other than the Government of Mauritius and Greek mythology-quoting tax experts Aegis, from whom he has just trousered a six-figure sum for a few days’ work. The good news is that Cox’s £4,000-a-day rate means that he still has plenty of time left over to look after his constituents. No further questions…


234 Comments

  1. 1
    jgm2 says:

    I genuinely don’t know why somebody earning 200K as a lawyer would want to be an MP on 65K a year. Unless for the immunity to prosecution it seems to give.

  2. 2
    Kebab Time says:

    Nice work if you can get it.

  3. 3
    Dr Freud said all women suffer from penis envy says:

    Is he another tax avoidance expert as well?

    All in this together

    My arse…

    The Tories will do anything to shoot themselves in the bollocks

  4. 4
    Spotty Lizard says:

    Hmm. Not entirely sure what your point is, Guido. Are you saying that MPs should have to give up all other employment while acting as an MP? Are you suggesting, and if so on what basis, that his work as a barrister is impairing his ability properly to represent his constituents?

  5. 5
    Brown out and pay me damages. I want a fresh start out of this socialist shithole! says:

    Oink! Parasites!

  6. 6
    Got a new crayon says:

    How much time do you think his constituents deserve?

  7. 7
    Too young to be an old bag says:

    Snout in trough!

  8. 8
    Tony Le Pony says:

    What a horsehaired c.unt!

  9. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Its wrong to cut child benefits for families on £50,0001 and still pay to

    1) families who make almost £100,000.
    2) people who have 10 kids.
    3) Cameron and Osborne’s parents and in-laws who are some of the richest in country. They are still getting winter fuel allowance, free TV licence, free travel, etc. Some even get millions for having wind turbines as well.

    Don’t say there is no money

    1) Foreign Aid £12.7bn
    2) EU, Cameron wants to give inflationary increase, doesn’t want to cut it, £20bn
    3) benefits increase by 6%, so people can sit at home. Benefits paid a year, over £200 bn.

  10. 10
    Selohesra says:

    Is it the ‘few days work’ you object to or the £200,000?

  11. 11
    Hava Nagila says:

    Aegis actually means ‘goat’ in Greek – and those familiar with Thucydides will remember the battle of Aegospotami (Goat River). It comes to mean ‘shield’ because shields were often constructed from goat hides.

  12. 12
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Surely that’s a good thing in that he’s not ‘in it for the money’.

    Perhaps he genuinely wants to be an MP to make a positive difference to the lives of the people of this country, or at least his own constituents.

    He’s probably just another bastard though.

  13. 13
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Oh do shut up!

  14. 14
    Rupert my Hero says:

    Unimportant Plebs, who needs Constituents.

  15. 15
    Blogtastic says:

    It’s time that a blog was started for the best of the judiciary, may I suggest a title M’lud:

    C.***.s in wigs

  16. 16
    Alistair Watson says:

    I would much rather have an MP who can earn a good income in the real world than some no hope political nerd who has never done a proper days work. He is much more likely to understand what is going on around him than the nerd – any talk about what a QC takes in should focus on the fact they earn what they can in a very competitive market – big income = good at the job.

  17. 17
    Call me ‘Dave’ says:

    Good Evening!

    Tomorrow I wish to be known as

    The Slippery Shit who doesn’t know his VichyArse Hole from his Quisling Elbow.

    Thank you.

  18. 18
    A Baldy says:

    Nice wig.

  19. 19
    John Lyon CB says:

    Bloody hell he gets more money for less work than me and I’m the benchmark!

    They don’t call me old three day week Lyon for nothing!

  20. 20
    Anonymous says:

    Worse, British taxpayers’ money was shoring up an autocratic regime, funding indoctrination and with food used as a political weapon.

    The same is true in Rwanda, where Britain aided a sham election last year by funding the electoral body that prevented the president’s rivals from standing and the media council that closed independent newspapers.

    This tiny nation, a favourite of Mr Mitchell, is being given an average £83 million a year despite last month’s disclosure it had sent a hit squad to assassinate exiles living in Britain.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2012074/David-Camerons-foreign-aid-How-money-squandered.html#ixzz2Ai9TWa9o
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  21. 21
    Zorba says:

    Thank you. It is a pleasure to read a truly informative comment on here.

  22. 22
    Tom Tomos says:

    Plus refreshers!

  23. 23
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Absolutely right.

    The politics of envy is alive and well here I see.

  24. 24
    On benefits in Majorca says:

    It’s just shocking.

  25. 25
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Furthermore, fuck off!

  26. 26
    A merkin says:

    Wrong preposition

  27. 27
    Anonymous says:

    It’s thought nearly £2 billion has been spirited out of Afghanistan since 2007, some to Gulf tax havens, with the family and associates of President Hamid Karzai linked to a £90 million Dubai property empire.

    Much of this cash is from aid donations, with £25 million disappearing from one donation to a hospital alone. Despite this, last year Britain announced that aid was rising by 40 per cent to £178 million a year.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2012074/David-Camerons-foreign-aid-How-money-squandered.html#ixzz2Ai9zc7hx
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  28. 28
    All Troughed Out says:

    Fit the Huhne with a nosebag the trough is simply not big enough!

  29. 29
    All Troughed Out says:

    That surely is a real gem of barristic linguistics.

    NOT sweets at all just fucking huge bags of cash!

  30. 30
    A Geranium says:

    Most politics is about envy when you get down to it. Why do people want to take on junior ministerial positions if it is not out of envy of others, of jealously at not being picked? The jobs themselves are often pointless.

  31. 31
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    It is not ‘troughing’ to conduct a successful career in law or anything else.

    You probably just don’t like people who earn more than you.

  32. 32
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    A QC who moonlights as a Member of Parliament, more like– what’s his voting record? Anyway, why not? Maybe working in Westminster is his own version of ambulance chasing– heaven knows most of the people there are going to need a brief sooner or later, so why not throw some business a colleague’s way?

  33. 33
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Only one question: Does he claim expenses as an MP?

  34. 34
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Why shouldn’t he provided they are reasonable?

  35. 35
    Anonymous says:

  36. 36
    Anonymous says:

    I don’t think there is much chance of you getting – I doubt the security booth pays you half that in a month

  37. 37

    Good man.Well said. Why shouldn’t an Mp make a claim? If its within the rules, then why not?

    Now excuse me, I have to go and collect and pay some rents to fellow MPs and order that drinks cabinet shaped like a globe. They are more expensive than I thought, so I was hoping you lot would pay. you normally do.
    Especially as its going to be submitted under refreshments.

    With all the refreshments that it takes to fill it.

  38. 38
    Tom Tomos says:

    Spot on. I’d feel quite refreshed with another barrow-load of wedge!

  39. 39
    Tony Blair says:

    No one earns more than me.

  40. 40
    Yvonne from The Colliers Arms Clydach says:

    I was in the Colliers on Saturday with my friend Cheryl and we had a nice little chat about fiscal policy .

    Anyway we both agreed that if you are going to operate any meaningful control of the economy at times you will have to reduce taxes and at other times you will have to increase them .

    What you cannot do is say you are going to increase taxes and then when people start screaming cancel everything you said you were going to do .

    That is the problem see.

  41. 41
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    You deserve every penny Bill. No doubt about it.

  42. 42
    Call me Dave says:

    If,like me,you are pestered by nuisance calls.

    The Nuisance Calls Forum
    27 Old Gloucester Street
    London
    WC1N 3AX

    enquiries@nuisancecalls.org.uk
    http://www.nuisancecalls.org.uk

  43. 43
    Value says:

    I think the difference is that Geoffrey Cox does not need the 65k because he can make money in the real world. It is people like Ed, Ed, Yvette and also Dave and George, who do not seem to be able to find a job in the real world that we should be worrying about. The real world will pay Cox what seems a lot of money for a little time because that it what he is worth. Can’t say the same about Ed etc.

  44. 44
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    I’m not envious. At least I don’t have to wake up to the fragrant Cherrie – that privillege alone is priceless.

  45. 45
    Anonymous says:

    Delighted to see there’s at least one of the bastards capable of earning – in a very competitive market based on success – a decent salary. Almost all the others are sodding unemployable, and have never worked, so hats off to this chap – live long and prosper, sir!

  46. 46
  47. 47
    Tony Blair says:

    I’m so rich I have an exact replica ‘Tony’ double who takes care of all that frightfulness.

  48. 48
    Old pervert should be made to pay says:

    So when are the police going to arrest Leon Brittan?

  49. 49
    Bill d'Sarse says:

    Over the past few years, governemnts of both sides of the house have implemented policies that have resulted huge reductions in professional personnel to be replaced with part-time, poorly trained and less qualified people. The Police, teachers, the Army, Navy, Airforce and Royal Marines are just a few examples that spring to mind.

    Wouldn’t it be a good idea if MPs implemeted a similar policy.

    Oh. Sorry, they seemed to have already done it.

  50. 50
    Brown out and pay me damages. Take the useless parasites with him. Game Over says:

    Trougher¡

  51. 51
    Tony Blair says:

    £4000 a day? Amateur. I don’t get out of bed for less than $20 million.

  52. 52
    LOL says:

    I’m getting confused now. Did someone mistake Kenny for Leon or were they both at it?

  53. 53
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    I bet you get out of bed pretty sharpish if Cherrie awakes in a frisky mood.

  54. 54
    Anonymous says:

    Soon Clegg will make over £1,000,000 a year in EU.

    Hope his £200,000 is not made on “Legal Aid”.

  55. 55
    Ed Miliband (Prime Minister designate) says:

    BBC News – Tory MP David Davies sorry for ‘incompetent government’ http://bbc.in/IZWm3Z

  56. 56
    Old pervert should be made to pay says:

    Leon’s name is all over Twitter as being an open secret since the 80s. Who’s Kenny?

  57. 57
    Gordon the Mediacted says:

    Well, I don’t get out of bed for less than a $21 dollars.

  58. 58
    Anonymous says:

    At least 500 barristers earned more in taxpayer-funded legal aid last year than the Prime Minister is paid in salary.
    The top-earning state-subsidised advocate made well over £800,000 presenting the courtroom defence of those accused of serious crime.

    And in civil law cases, the best-paid legal aid barristers – one accumulated nearly £600,000 – were experts in divorce and child law in the secretive family courts.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2004915/500-legal-aid-barristers-earning-David-Cameron.html#ixzz2AiJOGIK4
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  59. 59
    Jealous - moi!! says:

    I suspect that he works as a QC and moonlights as an MP.

    Are you jealous Guido? It certainly appears that way. Did the City not pay you 4k a day? I suspect it did but doubt you got a six figure sum for a couple of days work (excluding you selling your soul to the Daily Star)

  60. 60
    Marie Stopes says:

    We should not pay any child benefit. if you cann’t afford em don’t have em………….

  61. 61

    Savile died one year ago today. Would have expected the police to make some arrests but perhaps even they are beginning to realise that tokenism does not cut the mustard any more.

  62. 62
    Anonymous says:

    Then why does this government still paying billions in Child Benefits!

    Can we have the same for schools, hospitals, pension, care, all other benefits, etc?

  63. 63
    Christmas at Chequers says:

    The bbc has a lot to answer for, but so does the Tory governments of the 70s and 80s. It can’t be a coincidence that he was a friend and guest of Heath and Thatcher and got two royal honours. It’s also inconceivable that so many at the bbc and in the charity world knew about Savile’s behaviour but not the government of the day. I’m not saying Thatcher herself knew what he was doing but the same bunch who protected Brittan must have protected Savile too.

  64. 64
    genghiz the kahn says:

    BBC Points West praising the BBC for exposing the maltreatment at Winterborne Grove.

    Vile things happening, how could you live with it? Odd that the same line isn’t used to ex Pop Off Their Tops staff and BBC executives.

  65. 65
    Loopy Lou says:

    But it brings in some overtime .

  66. 66
    Gordon Brown says:

    Who’d like to bunga bunga with me?

  67. 67
    Chin Chin says:

    Ted Heath was a turd burglar. Thatcher was probably just thick.

  68. 68
    Chin Chin says:

    Heath was a turd b.u.r.g.l.ar. Thatcher was probably just thick.

  69. 69
    Loopy Lou says:

    Perhaps Thatcher should have known ?

  70. 70
    OldSoldier says:

    He`s my MP. Eurosceptic and all round good bloke. Not a trougher (I know- he doesn`t have to be, but plenty of serial troughers didn`t have to be either). Give me an MP who can cut it in the real world over a full-time politico any day. I`ll be voting for him next time round. Great wig, tho`.

  71. 71
    Thatcher's Snatch...ing of milk says:

    She was too busy robbing schoolkids of their milk.

  72. 72
  73. 73
    I don't need no doctor says:

    No further questions m’lud.

  74. 74
    Shock horror..... !! says:

    The lovely Louise…. now I can understand why she flocked off so quickly !!

  75. 75
    Shock horror..... !! says:

    Looking forward to the bikini shots !!

  76. 76

    Does he get the tax payer to pay the rent on his London flat?

  77. 77
  78. 78
    I don't need no doctor says:

    That’s no syrup, it’s his real hair.

  79. 79
    Shock horror..... !! says:

    ok…not quite breaking news……. this story from August :)

  80. 80
    I don't need no doctor says:

    It’s the Alistair Darling look.

  81. 81

    And closing mines. Don’t forget all those closed coal mines that Labour said they would reopen if they ever got into power.

    I think they did briefly get into power. Wasn’t it between 1997 and 2010?
    I suppose they didn’t have time to carry out that manifesto pledge.

    Maybe next time.

  82. 82
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Tessa Jowell would.

  83. 83
    Not Bothered says:

    If that’s the case, what about all those MPs who are moonlighting as Ministers of the Crown, Leader of the Opposition, Speaker, PPSs, chairs of Select Committees etc. They all seem to have enough time to do their jobs as plain old MPs.

  84. 84
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Between 1979 and 2010 – Not according to the BBC.

  85. 85

    Here’s a tip. Hang wire coat hangers from your ceiling lights. Keeps the toughtbeam probes away.

  86. 86

    Chris Bryant is a possible.

  87. 87

    Over on the BBC living wage page, comment after comment say we could all have a living wage if the greedy bastards didn’t fiddle so much.

    £12bn it would cost to raise the wage. How much was the troughing? About £15k each I think. Even if it was 100k each that’s still only £65 million.

  88. 88
    LOL says:

    Lily as well?? FFS

  89. 89
    Handycock No1 Trougher in Parliament says:

    Troughing Tory Twat. Boaz.

  90. 90
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Which begs the question of whether MP actually IS (or should be) a full-time job; yeah, like they hold surgeries back in the constituency every day they’re not in session, right? And there’s plenty of those days for sure!

  91. 91
    I used to live in bideford but I'm alright now! says:

    Well, I used to live in Bideford and I can tell you from personal experience that Cox does pretty well as a constituency MP. As long as he’s doing alright by the constituents, he can earn as much as he wants from other jobs.

  92. 92

    Ah! I see a solution! Why don’t we make everyone an MP? Then they could all have expenses (and probably all overclaim a bit, well, one does really). That way no one could complain. Those green benches would fill up a bit though…

  93. 93
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Remember that they make those perukes from the hair of the tail of the horse, as it is already accustomed to resting atop a horse’s arse.

  94. 94
    Observer says:

    I think it is healthy for MPs to have a profession to practise rather than to be beholden to their parties for their living. It makes for independence and gives them a view of the world beyond Westminster.

  95. 95
    Leon Brittan says:

    My music teacher caught me with my cock inside a woodwind instrument today.

    I’m getting done for sax abuse.

  96. 96
    Anonymous says:

    Spotty, I don’t give a damn what Guido says but I say being an mp should be a fulltime calling.The great majority of them have shown by their actions to be more concerned with the opportunities to increase their personal wealth at the expense of their electorate rather than doing the job they were elected to do.

  97. 97
    Engineer says:

    There are all sorts of rumours, but precious little corroborated facts. For example, after the atrocity at a primary school in a small Scottish town, the perpetrator’s firearms certificate was said to have been certified by a prominent Labour politician – who was promptly shunted off to a job elsewhere (Secretary General of Nato, if memory serves).

    I think there are people who should be very careful of trying to make party political capital out of this one.

  98. 98
    LOL says:

    Brass instrument.

  99. 99
    Legal beagle says:

    Guido

    This MP’s fees are small change compared with Jonathan Sumption QC who was paid a reported £5 million in this case :

    http://markhollingsworth.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/biff-bang-powski.pdf

  100. 100
    Jack says:

    And delayed his appointment as a High Court Judge to receive the payment…

  101. 101
    Gradgrind says:

    That is 200,000 in one month.

  102. 102
    For once a woman is on time. says:

    Sandy has timed it exactly with High water.

  103. 103
    Fog on the Tyne says:

    If being an MP is a part-time job then it should attract part-time wages. Say about £15000 pa?

  104. 104
    wiggy_uk says:

    If you think they do anything for their constituents then you are an idiot, surgery work is just an inconvenient part of the PR work to keep the local papers happy.
    If you haven’t ever held a proper job outside government & politics paying £65k you shouldn’t be paid to be an MP at all!

  105. 105
    Another Engineer says:

    Depends where you are.

    Forward movement is now nearly 30mph so it will be on-shore within an hour or so, and the high tide at New York is a few hours away yet.

    Gauges here:

    http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/ports/ports_data.shtml?stn=8518750%20The%20Battery&data_type=All%20Water%20Levels

  106. 106
    Ex Ah! Monika says:

    Tony Blair: the EU needs a president
    Tony Blair has said the EU would be better off with a directly elected president, as he warned deep political rifts between countries could lead to a break-up.

    Now who could we elect?

  107. 107
    ÁC1 says:

    Is the “living wage” the latest leftist insanity the BBC is narrativing?

    Living wage x
    Productivity < x
    Result Unemployment.

  108. 108
    Westminster Gossip says:

    Disgusting; if I went to my boss and said I’ll when I can and trouser £1000s from my day job I would sacked in a heart beat… when it comes to public money these greedy xxxxxxx will cut benefits for some while cheating the public for their own gain.

    Hypocrisy of the highest order. Such lowlife cannot understand why values such as integrity and honour are from a bygone era…

  109. 109
    ÁC1 says:

    The less the political classes do, the better off we are.

  110. 110
    It Sucks says:

    Disagree. Low pressure slightly in advance of the storm surge will only increase the surge.

  111. 111
    ÁC1 says:

    It would be a good idea to extort funding for schools, hospitals, failure-rewards etc…

    However I’m a nasty Adam Smith capitalist, so I think every adult citizen should get a dividend raised from taxes on land rights, patents and copyrights instead of a complicated system of moral hazards..

  112. 112
    ÁC1 says:

    It would be a good idea to DE-extort funding

  113. 113
    Adolph Balls says:

    A man who gooes to work in a silk gown , tights a wig and silver buckled high heeled shoes
    Call me old fashioned but its not the kind of person that I would wish to mix with

  114. 114
    Liam Byrne ( aka Baldemort ) says:

    There’s NO MONEY LEFT !!!

    WE HAVE TO FUCKING BORROW IT. SADLY, GORDON FUCKING BROWN AND ED SHIT-FOR-BRAINS BALLS GOT THIS COUNTRY IN THE WORST FISCAL POSITION SINCE WORLD WAR II.

  115. 115
    Gordon McJinx says:

    Count me in

  116. 116
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    ABTB

    Anybody but Tony B£iar

  117. 117
    Gordon McJinx says:

    ME!
    I have a reputation for financial probity and prudence , with my steady hand on the controls all will be well(as I have already told the president of Greece Mr Takitupthearsealtous

  118. 118
    Gordon McCanunt says:

    I will turn the tide

  119. 119
    Sparkler says:

    Full moon as well so gravitational effect will cause spring tide.

  120. 120
    EU Commissioner Mandy off with Nat somewhere says:

    And guacamole to you Sir

    Methinks we have the same tastes

    PS And I have just replaced my Dior plastic Arse Hole with a new Burberry one…so there…

  121. 121
    Herman of the EU says:

    Anybody vishing to leave the EU vill be shot. But ve are not all monsters. I still laugh ven I zink of Frank Spencer on his roller skates.

  122. 122
    Dave says:

    What they need is Windmills. They don’t flood.

  123. 123
    NATO says:

    I think you will find that he departed NATO very abruptly and quietly very shortly after the event to which you may be referring

  124. 124
    A British Citizen says:

    How can I leave the EU? I want no part of it.

  125. 125
    Georgeanonymous says:

    I really, sincerely hope he claims all the expenses due him —– hahahhahahahahahaha ——–what a fuckwit and how stupid of the peopel to vote for him – there’s no wonder the country’s gone to the dogs

  126. 126
    Georgeanonymous says:

    fascinating – i jus posted this under a different name and it was deleted – what is going on here

  127. 127
    Angela Firkel says:

    And ze shopkeepers, are you being served unt open all hours, ve vill not tolerate any of your pounds and ounces and vicious and outdated tills.

  128. 128
    Engineer says:

    You make a fundamental mistake – confusing private business with public affairs. I have a free choice whether I pay his fees or not – I am quite free to engage a lawyer on a lesser rate, but I have no choice over whether or not I support excessive welfare payments through my taxes.

  129. 129
    Gordon McBonkers Brhune, eyeing the Night Staff on the locked Ward at CurrrrrCudeeeee Lunatic Asylum says:

    These people are not tae make fun o’ me, – nor mock my Savin’ o’ tha’ Wuld. Ma worthless successor – Ed Bonkers says so.

  130. 130
    Engineer says:

    It’s healthier than some who choose to work in an environment rich in 14-year-old children, just in the hope of abusing them.

  131. 131
    Bletchley Park says:

    Probably because you spelt peopel correctly the first time around.

  132. 132
    An Englishman, singing robustly, says:

    Who do you think you are kidding Mrs. Mer-Kel?
    If you think we’re on the run,
    We are the boys who will stop your little game.
    We are the boys who will make you think again.
    ‘Cus who do you think you are kidding Mrs. Mer-kel?
    If you think old England’s done?

  133. 133
    Gendarme Cameron says:

    Good moaning! I am here to protund to effer a rofferondim on loaving the EU! Chortle!

  134. 134
    Sparkler says:

    Go to work on a windmill?, nice one Dave.

  135. 135
    The BBC are cunts says:

  136. 136
    Another Engineer says:

    Depends how quickly the wind shifts to offshore, but it looks like being onshore at NY for at least a few hours yet, so you could be right that the exact timing of the lowest pressure is immaterial.

    Record height at NY was 11ft from Hurricane Donna in 1960.

    It is currently 8.9ft with another 3ft of tide to go.

    Hope those subway barriers and pumps work…

  137. 137
    Anonymous says:

    The Spanish PM reiterates his faith in the Euro.

    What a pity he can’t give that same faith to the 25% of people in his country who are unemployed?

    Where are those lefties then? Is 25% unemployment in Spain a price worth paying to save the Euro and the faces of the European political elite?

    It is an absolute scandal and a disgrace, shame on all the politicians to allow it!

    It does not have to be like this. The blame again lies firmly at the German government yet again. History has taught the Germans nothing. She wants to conquer yet again. But this time economically, without a shot being fired.

    How long before the unemployed in Europe are in camps begging for food again?

  138. 138
    Major Bumsore says:

    I was in Bicester today and I noticed the plaques on the little flowerbefs in the pedestrian area said something like “these plants are growing in soil made from your garden and domestic refuse”
    I thought it quite an informative message and considered writing to the council to explain that it gave quite the wrong message much better to say “our garden and domestic refuse”

  139. 139
    Saffron says:

    No 1 no mp should have a 2nd job,try and tell your employer that you will work for him part time but he will pay you full time.
    No 2 T-bliar for presedente of EUSSR,dont make me laugh, a man despised for illegal wars in thrall of you know who.
    No 3 tin knickers mercali,why don’t you feck off with your germania ideas,which your own people are not with you on as you will find out.
    No 4 beeboids are at panic stations as to what skeletons are in the cupboard waiting to come out on a drip drip basis.
    Dunblaineo,try robertsoneo,your starter for ten.
    No 5 Cammoron,the pr chancer,please dont give us all your weasel words about the EUSSR cabal,you are a disgrace to your party as was another not straight guy.
    No 6 Anybody to me who is a traitor to THEIR country is the lowest of the low and there are many of these turncoats in this country and it’s time we were rid of them.

  140. 140
    Anonymous says:

    These idiots are borrowing more in 5 years than what Brown did in 13 years.

  141. 141
    Anonymous says:

    The hatred the English feel for their political elite hardens every single day.

    Keep ignoring us at your peril!

  142. 142
    Anonymous says:

    All Cameron is, is the heir to Blair, nothing else. He just wants to be Prime Minister.

  143. 143
    Anonymous says:

    ÁC1; why should someone with land pay tax? Think of how much Samcam’s dady and step daddy has to pay.

    We have a system where middled class are bled to pass it over to the supper rich and poor.

  144. 144
    c.eng says:

    They’re at again, Mr Mainwaring.

  145. 145
    Postman Prat says:

    Nonsense.

  146. 146
    c.eng says:

    Lie down, ze feeling will pass. If it persists ve hav permanent solutions.

  147. 147
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    If you the ‘Anonymous’ who keeps bleating about child benefit, read and ( perhaps ) rejoice.

  148. 148
    I 'ate you Gordon says:

    Ah, but that is not true you see.

    It’s just another fuckwitted lefty lie. Still, at least this time you didn’t invade another country. Bastard.

  149. 149
    Beowulff says:

    Ve vill take care of all of zem, haf not fear.

  150. 150
    The Air to Blair says:

    You can’t say you weren’t warned.

  151. 151
    Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

    I wouldn’t necessarily say those barristers ‘earned’ that money, because that would suggest they worked for it and deserved it. No, they simply received all that money.

  152. 152
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Goldman Sachs were the then Labour Governments preferred advisers. They advised Gordo the moron to sell the gold.

    And Goldman Sachs are still doing dirty deals with the present Government.

    Come on now all you intellectuals – work something out.

  153. 153
    Anonymous says:

    I hope they abolish child benefit. It’s just used to buy them mobile phones and satellite tv! They are essential aren’t they!

  154. 154
    Blowing Whistles says:

    To Bill Q
    You started with Good man.
    Ahem – Arnold was not a goodman he was a crook, a double dealing dirty, duplicitous, low life mongrel … a Scheuster of the most despicable order. There’s a lot of em aboout you know.

  155. 155
    Anonymous says:

    All the tax rises and benefit cuts that Cameron and Osbourne are making, just go towards paying more in to the EU budget. I hope Cameron is listening.

    You have no chance in 2015. You would rather see Milliband elected in 2015, because more and more of your core Tory vote is going to vote UKIP. That Mr Cameron is the result of your Euro loving policies. You should know that the Germans and the French will never let ENGLAND BE AT THE HEART OF EUROPE. The only Europe they want is THEIR Europe and that does not include giving any consideration to England’s views what so ever. I thought you would have realised this by now!

    Cameron, just like Blair is a traitor to our country, the country that is England, now that Scotland is on its own and rubbishing the English at every opportunity they get. So be it!

  156. 156
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Norm … you missed off from your paragraph

    … for their acting and stagecraft skills in duplicity and trickery.

    No – witne.. st..ement in any court of law in the UK is of any worth at all.

    Always demand sworn affidavits. No affidavit – no truth.

  157. 157
    Anonymous says:

    It’s so nice to see the peace and harmony that the EU has brought to the countries of Europe. Fully democratic too of course.

  158. 158
    Sandy is a busted flush says:

    If the NYC subway does not flood in the next hour then it never will.

  159. 159
    ÁC1 says:

    You can start at David Ricardo, or even earlier Adam Smith.

  160. 160
    Blowing Whistles says:

    I wonder if he’s ever read the damning slap on the wrist given to Gary Streeter lawyer MP by the SRA some years ago and whether the £1000 slap made any dent in Streeters pocket – considering all the insider knowledge that Streeter gained of planning consents and of peoples’ accounts at Lloyds & Abbey with plenty of conflicts of interest to boot?

  161. 161
    Blowing Whistles says:

    You are Schrodinger’s cats Alter ego Jekyll and I claim £6,000,000 [as the most propagandised figure in all of history]

  162. 162
    Kebab Time says:

    me thinkseth youeth protesteth too much :)

  163. 163
    Blowing Whistles says:

    What a ‘humbling’ statement. I am sure the Milly could have been saved – if those who had known of Levi Bellfields activities had only spoken up.

    Fuck off and die Murdoch.

  164. 164
    Blowing Whistles says:

    The Lyons (Clan) are bleeding us dry – what happened to Mouchel? Where did the debts ‘disappear to’?

  165. 165
    Anonymous says:

    “I am quite free to engage a lawyer on a lesser rate”

    Obviously never needed a real lawyer. You are not free to do anything. You can expend much money trying to interest them, and they will play you along for months with no intention of doing anything. They are free to engage you if they believe you are fodder to earn them money.

    However, you have a right to put your vote to anyone that supports your idea of taxation. You are the one that compromises and votes to the candidate that is closest to your needs.

    There is a fundamental issue with this country in that there is no ability to force the services of a lawyer. However, if you are desperate and attempt action without their support you stand before a Judge (lawyer) that refuses to listen. Been there.

    Do not ever use the words “free” and “lawyer” in the same sentence. Justice is permitted to some, others just die.

  166. 166
    Tachybaptus says:

    And so I was. Formerly a lifelong Conservative, I have voted UKIP every time since the bugger was elected party leader. But somehow, the way things are going, this isn’t very comforting.

  167. 167
    Cash 4 Shags says:

    Why should copulation make money for the copulators ?

  168. 168
    Blowing Whistles says:

    As for justice – well that blew out of the window decades before David mills’ documents to do with the dirty blood selling debacle.

  169. 169
    Expat Geordie says:

    Yet apparently Hamilton had quite a run in with Robertson at one point, even to the point of making physical threats. Why endorse the FAC of someone who has threatened to kill you?

    Then again, Hamilton was supposed to be supplying little boys to the local Labour Party bigwigs.

  170. 170
    Welloilbeefhooked says:

    Truth hurts huh?

  171. 171
    Welloilbeefhooked says:

    Temper, Temper. You old baguette.

  172. 172
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Boy oh boy .. Nothing to do with Lord Montague then or several judges, lawyers, barristers and cops that I could mention.

    And wash my mouth out if I mention Dame Butlers Slossss’ Husband’s proclivities of yesteryear.

  173. 173
    Expat Geordie says:

    How can you have a living wage when the going rate for factory jobs in Poole now is the same as when I arrived there 17 years ago? I could buy a flat on £6.00 an hour then. Now the same job pays £6.20 an hour, but the flat costs 4 times as much. The difference? When I started everyone’s first language was English (except for a few Portuguese), whereas now their first language is anything but.

  174. 174
    Another Engineer says:

    Water level now at a record height – probably a foot or two to go. So, basically, yes.

  175. 175
    Expat Geordie says:

    +loads

  176. 176
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Wires are Humming on a certain man who just never seems to achieve anything in the similar arena he protests about so much …

    where’s the cat?

  177. 177
    The very rev.. Ian Paisley. says:

    Most of you “Righties” Need to go on anger management courses.It can not do your little hearts any good getting so angry and CAPS lock shouting like this .Calm down and if you are able communicate in a more civilized manner,THANK YOU.

  178. 178
    FREDDIE STARR ATE MY SISTER says:

    No money indeed , thats why This shower of shite have just announced £350,000,000 for development work for a replacement for Trident
    Just to appease the Jocks

  179. 179

    Except flush posted at 10:45 when there were still two hours to go. Also the rain, which could have added 6 inches plus has held off so far.

  180. 180
    Blowing Whistles says:

    The unburied makes for some reading pages 101 at the foot thru to pg 107.

    It was happening all ‘across’ the house and logic dictates that one particular society have lots of secrets.

  181. 181
    Sandy Shore says:

    It’s going to be close. Very Close. But it looks they have got away with it.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/livenow?id=8857235

  182. 182

    Battery all-time record high now recorded and still an hour and a half to go.

  183. 183
    Blowing Whistles says:

    And not to mention his ‘acting’ skills at the Hu…n whitewash. No-one was on Oath well, well, well Hoondog Bliars all of ‘em.

  184. 184
    Blowing Whistles says:

    This windmill stuff is all about ‘hot air’ cu.rre.nts

  185. 185
    Sandy Shore says:

    And only seconds after I posted the commentator said it looks like we will have sea water in our subway system.

    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/livenow?id=8857235

  186. 186
    Expat Geordie says:

    If you are refering to the Freemasons then you are probable wrong. The Labour Party leadership in that part of the country at the time was mainly Catholic, and in Britain (at the time, not sure about now) practicing Catholics couldn’t be masons.

  187. 187

    Not so soon. The subway looks as if it is going to be flooded on this tide. But there is also the morning tide still to come and the present waters probably cannot drain away in that time.

  188. 188
    Blowing Whistles says:

    No need to elect anyone – the Brussells House of Cards is falling to pieces – but don’t expect the most senior British news / media / city journo’s to truly mention it any day soon.

    Liked the bit on CH 4 tonight about the greek man who exposed Greeces most prominent 2000 rich tax evaders with accounts in Swiss banks – and he originally got the info from Christine Lagarde. [Wasn’t on her ‘guard’ then ‘before’ she got the latest appointment] He’s up before the Greek beaks this week – Thursday.

    Now that’s the ‘perfect storm’ to watch out for.

  189. 189
    Blowing Whistles says:

    There is a growing number of people who the judiciary are 5hit scared of – and those numbers grow by the day. The key is to have fun with the bugghers whilst they become ever more desperate to decieve from all of their wrongdoing.

    “The Deceit of the Wrongdoer”.

  190. 190
    Another Engineer says:

    That was a yes to “if it doesn’t now then it never will” as opposed to ‘busted flush’.

    Level at the Battery now 12.54 feet, well above the record.

    It just depends how fast the water flows in. A totally full subway would be pretty disastrous but we aren’t there yet…

    I don’t think tomorrow’s tide will be as bad – the winds will be lower and from a different direction.

  191. 191

    Old Battery Park Flood record 1821 now exceeded by two feet and still 1.5 hours to go.

  192. 192
    C@nt Watcher says:

    Lovely big-lipped moist ones I hope!

  193. 193
    Blowing Whistles says:

    “Don’t tell them your name – Albert Pike, It’s all Palladianism cult 5hit”.

  194. 194
    Blowing Whistles says:

    And what does Al Gore have to say about it all …. [A Silent Bob moment]

    Me I love Mother Nature – she comes along just when you least expect her – as she has done for 1000’s of years to protect the planet – save can she protect us from profiteering tax rusing damned idiot politicians?

  195. 195
    suissebob says:

    Water levels on the link above are interesting, still rising!

  196. 196
    Another Engineer says:

    Looks very very bad now.

    All subway lines flooded, out for at least a week.

    If the subway fills with water to the brim, it has been estimated that it will take the pumps 29 days to empty it. And saltwater is very corrosive.

  197. 197
    Anonymous says:

    Hudson has breached.

  198. 198
    Xeay says:

    Hudson has breached

  199. 199
    Crapster says:

    So 3 million Yankers and rising can not flush their dump.

    This is serious.

  200. 200

    I heard that some of the subway switchgear is around 100 years old and replacing that in any extent would take some time.

    Have not heard any reports of subway flooding *yet* but it seems that water levels in Lower and Raritan Bays are being kept up by the exceptionally strong winds and the next high tide is 09:00 EDT which may sent the current levels even higher. So it does look as if it will seriously breach the subway at some point.

    Tracking all subway reports on a number of tabs.

  201. 201
    I seem to recall... says:

    Somewhere in the records of Tower Hamlets social services there should be some mimutes of a meeting. 1986, I’d say or thereabouts, if memory serves.

  202. 202
    Chuka says:

    NYC blacked out.

  203. 203
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Excuse moi – ‘probably wrong’ does not mean wrong.

    And as for … them ‘couldn’t be masons’ – I know of an ex-judge who when it was put to him practicing as a solicitor / lawyer ‘distracted’ to anything but the question put to him.

    The Ashton family of Lancashire are a very old well to do family from oop North.

  204. 204
    Another Engineer says:

    Hmm, some tweets a bit premature perhaps, but this suggests some salt water has got into the system and they are pumping it out:

    Battery Inspection

    However, they’ll need to inspect anything that’s beein flooded, however temporarily, so I can believe it will be out for a week.

  205. 205

    Only Lower Manhattan.

    See this webcam at the Times Building – refreshes every minute or so.

  206. 206
    I. says:

    I used to live in a loverly thatched house – till it burned down.

  207. 207

    Even on a rainless day they pump some 80 million gallons out of the subway so it would have to get to where the switchgear is sited. There is no current running in the rails at the moment. It will be that new morning surge that they have to survive to get through this intact. I would agree that a week out of action would be quite likely but if the entire system filled (unlikely but the possibility exists), it could take a month to replace and test.

  208. 208
    suissebob says:

    MYFOXNY.COM –
    It it turning into the worst case scenario for the MTA as storm surges from Sandy batter New York City.

    The agency that runs the subway system reports that up to four feet of seawater is entering subway tunnels under the East River.

    The MTA had tried to prepare the system to keep out the saltwater but the surge of water proved to be too much on Monday evening.

    Salt can eat at electronic parts and metal that keeps the aging system running.

    The MTA had closed the entire subway system on Sunday night.

    Before the storm, the MTA said that it could take up to four days to pump out any flooding in the system.

    Read more: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/19948203/seawater-flooding-subway-tunnels#ixzz2Ak1babWV

  209. 209

    Now south of 39th without power.

    Times Square still bright.

  210. 210
  211. 211
    Get a job Anonymong! says:

    At least Kebab works Anonymong. Do you? Brain surgeon are you, or just a sarcastic’ stay at home & let the state keep me’ leech.

  212. 212
    Marmite says:

    Too true OTB. Most of the Leiber MPs are too thick to hold down their present job, let alone a second one.

    I still can’t believe people vote for Leiber, I honestly can’t. No wonder Ed Militwat was banging on about men.t.a.l health today. He was talking about Labour voters!

  213. 213
    Marmite says:

    WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE HUTTON REPORT??? HAS IT HAD A ‘D’ NOTICE SLAPPED ON IT BY BLIAR & CO?

  214. 214
    Agent Orange says:

    Vote for me as your president and I will shave you all.

  215. 215
    AUNTYGATE says:

    The shit is still rising from the sewers.

  216. 216
    Archer Karcher says:

    That’s peanuts, we will give the E-ewe £13,600,000,000 this coming year ( without any increase ) DfID will squander a further £12,500,000,000 and that is just the start of the squanderama. The coalition of fabians are every bit as rapacious with your money as commie Brown and his looting thugs.

  217. 217
    illogical says:

    Sandy in full swing and the next one, should it occur is due to be named Tony [undoubtedly a failure].
    Gordon too in August was a bit of a wash out- a little rain.
    Unfortunately tropical storm / hurricane names that turn out to be minor happenings do not get retired and can be used again in the future.
    Sounds a bit like politics.
    Next year we are promised a ‘Rebekah’

  218. 218
    Archer Karcher says:

    If it were only the Tories you might have a point. As it is, there is nothing between any of the mainstream parties beyond rhetoric. Thieves and liars nearly all.

  219. 219
    Archer Karcher says:

    Are you mad?

    It is the ‘work’ they have tirelessly devoted themselves to over the last fifteen years that has ended up in this gargantuan mess and mass government looting.

    MP’s should only be allowed to ‘work’ two hours a week in the HoC and be banned from introducing any new laws, until they have repealed the 36,000 useless, oppressive, money grabbing, shit ‘laws’, they have introduced over the last fifteen years.

  220. 220
    fabians are Evil says:

    Good on him I say!

    I would rather have a part time intelligent M.P. than a full time bovine fat arsed, ex trade union, socialist Labour bint.

    For God’s sake can you not remember ‘Blair’s babes” ?????

  221. 221
    Archer Karcher says:

    “very competitive market”

    Err, the legal profession is a closed shop, what’s more it’s a self serving closed shop and there is an ethical point too. Should law makers be financial beneficiaries of laws they introduce under such closed shop circumstances?

  222. 222
    M says:

    The reason he’s an MP oh ,
    Access to easy cash , that’ll be £4000 in used notes , ok thanks bye .
    NEXT .

  223. 223
    The one & only kekbab says:

    I think my pacemaker is broken.
    Everytime I’m coughing the garage door opens.

  224. 224
    You wanna be in their gang, their gang, their gang says:

    Jimmy So-vile

    Gary Glitter

    Freddie Starr

    Leon Brittan

    Jeremy Thorpe

    Ted Heath

    Derek McCulloch

    Wilfrid Brimbell

    More to come…

  225. 225
    Beast with 2 Eds says:

    Nice Jimmy S wig. Very tasteful.

  226. 226
    Outlier says:

    This practice should be banned not only because of the obvious great potential for conlifct of interest, but also because constituents (and taxpayers who fund their generous salaries, expenses and pensions) should be afforded 100% of an MP’s time. Parliament should NOT be a “career choice”, where those who would otherwise fail in the “real-wold” enrich themselves at public expense.

  227. 227
    Anonymous says:

    gold.man sacks advise sale of gold.
    is this in the national or even notional consciousness. ..let’s be conscientious and expand.
    …our. conscious.ness

  228. 228
    Anonymous says:

    yes. indeed. where are surgeries?
    The idea that our MPs are surgeons.
    we have been had.
    blind blind.
    us.

  229. 229
    Anonymous says:

    firstly there was.
    adult.ery. (the not so adult thing to do)
    then there was homo.sex. (what homosapiens do)
    and now. pa.edo. (pa…trust me, i am your father..not any father. your father confessor)

    are we being played.
    using the very language that is meant to bring ppl to.gather.
    it’s called divide ‘n
    ru.
    l

  230. 230
    bergen says:

    I agree. I wish my MP was gainfully employed. The old reason why the Commons sat in the evening was to allow its members the chance to have a day job. And they were far better at politics than the present shower.

  231. 231
    Evan says:

    I would rather have an MP who has experience and knowledge from outside politics than one who has spent his or her life as a policy wonk or entirely within the Westminster bubble.

    Surely we want a nurse who does a couple of shifts a month in Parliament; a teacher who teaches a couple of classes a week; a doctor who actually sees a few patients; and a lawyer who actually does some lawyering. Each of these things ought to be possible – and indeed were encouraged (and required as MPs were not paid at all) until relatively recently.

    Is out politics any better for having a political class that sees their role as an MP as a ‘job’ rather than a service?

  232. 232
    unejekatid tit says:

    Your constant babbling in riddles is wasting everybody’s band with. Say what you have to say properly or STFU.

    pretty please.

  233. 233
    unejekatid tit says:

    Surgeons were originally barbers. So they have continued with the scalping (us) – just changed their titles a bit.

  234. 234
    Northern More-ish tory says:

    Is he the only one?!

    I believe not! A certain Stephen Phillips is too.


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