October 26th, 2012

Video: The People’s EU Withdrawal Bill Debated in Parliament

Today history was made as the first-ever crowd-sourced Bill was debated in Parliament. The majority of 5,000 readers of this website voted for Douglas Carswell to propose Britain to withdraw from the European Union, and today Carswell stood up in the House to argue the case for the People’s Bill. The debate can be watched at length here

Video via @liarpoliticians

106 Comments

  1. 1
    Jon Cruddas says:

    Can someone give me a lift home?

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    • 8
      Berlusvoni resplendent in his prison clothes says:

      Can somebody wake Guido up from his qfternoon snooze on the counch and tell him the news !

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      • 20
        Selohesra says:

        Did Bill pass? – are we going to get out?

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        • 87
          Expat Geordie says:

          I’ve just been doing some back of the envelope calculations for an In/Out Referendum.

          In.

          3 million + Eastern Europeans who don’t want to go home.
          1 million Irish who will vote to stay in so that they don’t have to repeat the exercise when the “wrong” result is announced.
          1 million French.
          2 million from the PIGS who don’t want to go home.
          6 million Lib Dem voters.
          2 – 3 million fraudulent Labour postal votes.
          6 million Trade Unionists/Public Sector “Workers”.

          So that is 22 million guaranteed votes to stay in the EU, of which a third are foreign immigrants allowed to vote in our elections.

          Out.

          Anyone with any sense or pride in Britain, but does that come to more than 22 million?

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          • Quiet Bat Person says:

            Will Scots living in England be denied a vote on this one as well?

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          • Andrew says:

            Anyone who assumes that all trade unionists or all public-sector workers – would vote In is just plain wrong.

            Anyone who uses quote-marks like you did is just plain ignorant.

            (Signed)

            Public-sector; ten-hour day, Out voter.

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          • Shuffling papers is not work says:

            Bet you’re knackered, looking out the window and standing around at the drinks machine for 10 hours a day must be exhausting.

            Anyone who thinks that because they ‘work’ for the Gov they should automatically be afforded respect, along with their unsustainable pensions, is just plain ignorant.

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          • Budgie says:

            Expat Geordie, the biggest problem is that a majority wants “out”, but a substantial number of those will be swayed by the scaremongering of the europhiles come a referendum campaign.

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      • 38
        Archer Karcher says:

        Clutching at straws are we, Berlusconi will not spend a single day in prison. We are talking about Italy here, with a legal system so corrupt, it is amost as bad as our own these days.

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    • 9
      Chris Huhne says:

      Sure

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    • 13
      Gonk II says:

      mmmm. let me think about that. No

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    • 69
      Loftus Road says:

      Douglas is the best MP by miles….

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    • 70
      Confused Me says:

      Guido says; Today history was made as the first-ever crowd-sourced Bill was debated in Parliament.

      I thought this process had started months back as I had been advised by E, Petition that the RPI to CPI backbench debate had resulted in something like 30 for change and 3 against.

      My lazy greedy C,unt of an mp could not be bothered, despite many writing to him.

      Bet he gets of his arse to vote for his own.

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  2. 2
    Beeb celebs going down in flames says:

    Grab the popcorn. Police say they’re on the verge of making several arrests of household names in connection with Jimmy Savile.

    Popcorntastic!

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    • 3
      BBC DG says:

      I see no mention of this across our wide range of output

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      • 12
        Beeb celebs going down in flames says:

        Get the nachos and dips in, this is gonna be good!

        Savile police to arrest up to a dozen ‘household name’ celebrities within days as it’s revealed officers blew SEVEN chances to trap him. Scotland Yard reveals that TV stars may have helped Savile or abused children themselves, adding: ‘we will come for them’. Team of 30 officers from Scotland Yard have ‘arrest strategy’ and will act ‘within days’

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        • 14
          BBC DG says:

          Nope still can’t see anything

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          • Saviles Travails says:

            Looks liken the coppers just cant help playing to the gallery as its not standard procedure to announce in advance over the media that you are about to make arrests. I really hope they investigate this properly and not get caught up in the hysteria.

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          • jimmy the door... says:

            or wisteria if they have to force entry…

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          • Softly, Softly Task Force says:

            The Force is enjoying having a bit of ‘pleb’ revenge and they know they can only win by arresting as many celebs as possible for crimes like these. Everyone loves a Copper when he knicks some vile kiddy fiddler.

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          • Hamish says:

            Knicks? Your slip is showing.

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          • Anonymous says:

            They are hoping that matters are taken out of their hands.

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          • Pc Knacker says:

            now then now then whats going on here ?

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          • PC Bent as nine bob note says:

            Hola Hola Hola cos he’s just got back from his villa in spain

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          • Anon PC Plod with rolled up trouser leg & leather apron says:

            We always try warn our fellow brothers in advance so they have

            plenty of time to hop, skip & jump…….& won’t have their collars felt

            when we officially pay a visit…..but its only the non brot*hers names

            that will banded about before hand along with the media being in

            attendance when we arr*est them……

            Of course they can always Lod*ge an appeal but that wont get

            anywhere in our Magis*trates Co*urt……..

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Anon PC – any chance you could name some of the gentlemen in a photo printed in the Guardian G2 magazine supplement back on Wednesday 29th January 1997; it was on the front page (G2) with a huge report followed up on pages 2 & 3? The men all appeared to be wearing something like kitchen aprons and gloves.

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  3. 4
    skidrow301 says:

    Reblogged this on Hidden British News.

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  4. 5
    Bunga Bunga says:

    I can’t quite see what Silvio saw in that bunga bunga girl.

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  5. 6
    Blind-leading-blind says:

    Pity a “crowd” didn’t turn up for the debate

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  6. 7
    JH says:

    This is a great effort by Carswell but FFS, there are about 10 of them in there.

    We need a proper reading and to force the troughers to actually start representing the people of the country for a change.

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    • 26
      Anonymous says:

      There is more than one way to skin a cat & the pro EU politicons know all of them.

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    • 67
      Former Tory Voter says:

      Their mass absence from the chamber during debate on this issue has not gone unoticed. The arrogant bastards will pay at the election.

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      • 98
        Budgie says:

        FTV, I hope you are right, but I fear there are too many tribalist Labour, Conservative and LibDem voters out there.

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    • 105
      Synic says:

      M.P.s should have to clock on. No show for debates, then no pay.
      There should be a minimum quorum of say 200 of the fxckers for any debate, and 500 for any legislation vote.

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  7. 11
    Silvio goes down! says:

    Silvio goes down….but not the way he likes it! Get us out of the EU – we have enough thieves ourselves to be getting on with in HoC and hopefully putting a few more of them down too.

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  8. 23
    anonemo says:

    Who is the dosser sitting beside Carswell?

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  9. 31
    Anonymous says:

    Labour MP Jon Cruddas banned for driving with no insurance or MOT.

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    • 76
      An MP says:

      Was he fined? Can it go on expenses?

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    • 91
      Diogenes' stand-in says:

      “disqualified from driving for eight weeks, fined £200 and told to pay £85 costs and a £15 surcharge.”
      Somehow I suspect you or I wouldn’t have got off so lightly!
      Driving with no insurance carries a fine of up to £5,000, six to eight penalty points — and the court can impose a ban. The punishment for having no valid MoT is a fine of up to £1,000.

      Millions get it right every year but a Labour shadow cabinet member can’t:
      “I thought I had a week left to renew.” And he wants to run this country.

      If this had been a Conservative Minister it would have been the banner headline on BBC News!

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  10. 34
    Jimmy says:

    I was under the impression that there were supposed to be dozens of tory MPs in favour of this nonsense. Perhaps Carswell shold have mentioned this to them.

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    • 44
      Archer Karcher says:

      Nonsense eh Jimmy? Oddly, oop in jockland independence is not seen as nonsense, but a birth right. Though of course Salmond being the dishonest prick he is is not actually offering independence or freedom is he? That’s why Call Me Useless is going along with it.

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      • 57
        George Bruce says:

        ” Oddly, oop in jockland independence is not seen as nonsense, but a birth right. ”

        They sold themselves to England in the first place after bankrupting themselves playing Colonialism.

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      • 71
        Vote Yes for The UK and No to the EUSSR says:

        The reality of what Salmond is offering is even greater bondage to the EUSSR , to talk of freedom is beyond parody.

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  11. 35
    Gotcha says:

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    • 37
      Well not quite says:

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      • 41
        Jimmy says:

        I’m appalled that such a fine public servant is reduced to having to make do with a vehicle old enough to require an MoT.

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      • 52
        Friends in High Places says:

        Driving without Insurance should carry 6 to 8 points and as he already had six, then he should have lost his licence.

        Court fines are related to income and no insurance is a max of £5000 and no MOT is a Max of £1000 so a possible £6,000 for someone on high income.

        Is he in the same Lodge as the magistrate?

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        • 72
          Do you think you or me would have got points on our licence if it was us ? says:

          Is this what Obama is talking about when referring to those who dont play by the same rules as the rest of us ?

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      • 64
        Traffic Cop who pulled a cretin says:

        He never called me a pleb, so thats OK sir

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        • 75
          The late Andrew Mitchell MP says:

          It was all a misunderstanding. I was simply asking he officer his views on Mr. Carswell’s exciting new plebiscite idea.

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      • 102
        Eeyore says:

        Can’t recall the name of that swarthy Labour lord who was imprisoned for texting on a motorway and causing a crash. He got chokey – six months, I think – but was released after a few days ‘because of the value of his work in the community’.

        If Cruddas had applied the Othello make-up and declaimed ‘Allahu akbar!’ he’d have got off completely.

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  12. 42
    moby dick says:

    no insurance or MOT

    FORGOT MY ARSE

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  13. 43
    The loony left is alive and well says:

    You couldn’t make it up. What’s the bet the teachers are a pair of right-on sandal wearing lefties in Che Guevara t-shirts and CND symbols plastered on their back and a packet of lentil salad in their rucksacks made of coriander and hemp?

    Two drama teachers were sacked for allowing students to act in a play involving incest, r*pe and child abuse, which left children “vomiting and sobbing”. The play involved 15 to 16-year-olds acting out a scene where a father sexually abused his daughter and involved graphic descriptions of group sex within a family, child abuse and r*pe.

    The unidentified school sacked the two teachers who were supervising the play for gross misconduct after friends and family members watching the performance were left horrified.

    The teachers, who have not been identified, are challenging the decision and claiming they had been unfairly dismissed. But the Employment Appeal Tribunal ruled the teachers’ cases would have to be re-heard after judge Lady Smith decided a previous decision which favoured the staff was “perverse”.

    “The principal complaint came from a parent who described not only her own distress, but the distress of others, including a girl who was sobbing after the performance and a boy and one of the actors who were vomiting as a result of their distress,” she said. A representative from the local council said the play was “offensive, disturbing and potentially abusive.”

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    • 53
      Harriet HarPerson says:

      As long as it demonstrated how beastly men are I have no issue with this brave performance.

      Plus, if the age of consent was lower this would not be an issue.

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    • 58
      Anonymous says:

      No they are just weak believers. They probably believe everything told to them and were doing exactly what was expected of them. The fault lies with the uncontrolled education system.

      I once met the son of a Chinese couple that went through the Great Leap Forward. They had believed it all. They had done their duty only to find it ruined them. The son was hard work, as he was brought up not to believe any “new” idea. His faith in authority was non-existent and he examined everything.

      What care has been taken of the children?

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    • 59
      Sir Jimmy says:

      Is it out on DVD yet?

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      • 63
        down under says:

        only in your dreams…hope the box is cold

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      • 73
        Knowing the fuckwittery which infests our public services, this is what is likely to happen . says:

        The two Teachers will be re instated however all parents will be banned from attended all School plays from now on as some of them may be p***os. Anyone who has photographs or videos of their children in previous School plays no matter how long ago must hand them into the Police for destruction as we cannot be to careful. In addition parents will be forbidden from approaching within 500 yards of any school , anytime anywhere. That will be all.

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  14. 50
    Scrounging, meddling thick as shit socialist fuds in Edinburgh allowed! says:

    Time to leave!

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  15. 78
    sarah says:

    Why was there hardly anyone there ? Is this a normal attendance. It sais a lot for the way in which ” the ordinary voters outside Westminster” are regarded – they dont give a toss. Well done to Douglas Carswell though.

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  16. 80
    Wee Willie says:

    Part of a larger plan to debase our children, de-sensitise them and turn them into trendy pc liberals (and Liberals), God help them and us.

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  17. 85
    Anonymous says:

    Looks like more people voted on which bill than were represented by the MPs in the chamber!

    But jolly good stuff whatever

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  18. 88
    Blowing Whistles says:

    So the Italian Beaks have sentenced Silvio to a couple of years for fraud.

    Well done to the Italian beaks and depsite the bad press they get here in the UK

    AT LEAST THEY – Got the greasy dirty old runt up before a criminal court to at least face up to some of the charges – unlike their counterparts here in the FCUK.

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  19. 94
    VulgarDisplayOfPower says:

    I wonder what Edmund Burke might have thought of this? On November 3rd 1774 he said, in his famous speech to the Electors of Bristol:

    ‘Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion.’

    And furthermore the great man doth quoth:

    ‘Parliament is not a congress of ambassadors from different and hostile interests; which interests each must maintain, as an agent and advocate, against other agents and advocates; but parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole. You choose a member indeed; but when you have chosen him, he is not member of Bristol, but he is a member of parliament.’

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    • 104
      Andrew says:

      One of his successors as Member for Bristol – Tony Benn, no less – wet-farted on that idea in 1968. Sir Gerald Nabarro had brought in a Bill to restrict tobacco advertising – the sort of thing we got a generation later – and the (Labour) Government Whips saw that it went nowhere.

      Ten years later we learnt from Crossman’s Diaries that Benn was behind it. Of course, Bristol’s wealth was built on tobacco and slavery. Slavery was no longer much help to the local economy (I wonder how Benn would have voted on the slave-trade!) but tobacco very much was. And Benn would brook no threat to the industry that sustained the city which sustained his career.

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      • 106
        VulgarDisplayOfPower says:

        Interesting – I’d forgotten that Benn was a successor to the great man (how ironic, actually). But my point in posting the quote was that the idea of ‘crowd sourcing’ a bill seems the very opposite of the view Burke espouses in his speech.

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  20. 95
    ShurdyRover says:

    Yes and the CHAMBER was full to capacity eh??? Wankers had all gone home – thats what they think of us PLEBS!

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  21. 100
    Jack the Ripper says:

    Forty years after they were warned about it by Enoch Powell, the Tories wake up to a United States of Europe.

    They only have Rolls Royce brains in the Conservative Party!

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  22. 103
    Andrew says:

    I’m only astonished that Hemming did not force a division on his Bill and left 39 minutes for this one.

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