October 17th, 2012

Ed Burns Burnham Speech

Tensions between Ed Miliband and Andy Burnham are spilling out across the papers, again. Just before Labour conference Ed cocked up a Q&A by declaring that Labour would not try to repeal the Lansley Health Act, Burnham immediately took to Twitter to helpfully say the exact opposite, leaving his leader wriggling and forcing a complete turnaround. Today it seems the Shadow Health Secretary has got a little slap in the Guardian:

Andy Burnham, the shadow health secretary, watered down policy plans to integrate social and healthcare after an intervention during the Labour party conference from Ed Miliband’s office involving heated discussions. Burnham wanted to make the commitment in his speech a fortnight ago but was told by the Labour leader’s office that the pledge had not yet been costed and its implications for the health service had not been fully explored. There were also concerns that Burnham was telling fringe meetings about giving local councils powers to commission health services – a plan that had not been adequately examined, sources said.

Guido heard an amusing tale not long ago of Burnham using a four letter word, not suitable for a family blog, whilst in the company of senior newspaper executive to describe Ed in the dying days of the Labour leadership election. He also vowed not to serve in his shadow cabinet if he won. You have to wonder whether he’s regretting his change of heart yet…


  1. 1
    Anonymous says:

    “he vowed not to serve”
    HAHAHA that would require a man of morals in the labour party?


  2. 2
    taC eht abbaJ says:

    Two Labour c u n t s falling out?


  3. 3
    Pawn Sandwich says:

    Unblock your beds with the Liverpool Care Pathway.


    • 10
      Anonymous says:

      You should not comment about a subject you know nothing about. The LCP is an exellent way to help a dying person to die a comfortable death. Misleading headlines dont help, re the recent publicity of a patient supposedly being put on LCP. where were the relatives ? these decisions are not plucked out of mid air, im sick of people jumping on bandwagons.


      • 20
        Pawn Sandwich says:

        You are probably right about people jumping on to bandwagons. You are also probably more aware of the subject than I am.

        So thats it then, we will never question any aspect of the NHS.

        Oh and by the way, a few days ago a poster on this site refused LCP for a grandparent who went on to live a further two years.

        We won’t question Harold Shipman either.


        • 27
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps junior says:

          Anonymous is a twat. My wife’s father had a stroke and was put on Pathway (in Poole) without any consultation or explanation. When we found out we had to insist on him being put on a fluid drip with glucose (or similar) just to make sure he was not killed by dehydration rather than the stroke.


          • Anonymous says:

            Tristram ,a glucose drip (or similar ) wouldnt have made very much difference to some body who was dying,google it, as i cant be bothered to spell it out to you. It made you feel better and thats all.Plus you are very rude.


      • 25
        Doris Day says:

        Ooooooo hark at you


      • 26
        Let's have a proper informed debate says:

        The nub of the argument is whether relatives are consulted and if they do NOT give their consent to the LCP it is NOT implemented. The reports if they are true suggest that medical professionals decided themselves(I do not doubt from the best motives)without consulting the relatives


        • 32
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps junior says:

          Rubbish. See 25 above. Perhaps all the elements are not implemented without agreement but they make sure the patient dies from lack of fluids etc.


          • Anonymous says:

            If a patient is dying, they would not usually be able to drink. That is the natural process of dying. Putting iv infusions up on these patients does not help the patient, and if it is done its usually to make relatives feel better. That is the truth.


        • 54
          Anonymous says:

          The LCP documentation has sections where the consultant has to sign to say they have spoken to next of kin, i cant believe Consultants dont do this.


  4. 4
    nellnewman says:

    militwit’s biggest enemy is his own party


  5. 5
    Steve Miliband says:

    Why not set up an enquiry


  6. 7
    sekwaf odiug says:

    Andy’s not wiping his nose on his sleeve is he?


  7. 8
    EdMiliband says:



  8. 12
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    End their NHS. It isn’t working.


  9. 14
    Aaron D Highside says:

    Burnham, Ainsworth, wee Dougie etc. Lightweights.


  10. 15
    UKIP.i.am.awake says:

    “New official analysis, based on a report from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), showed that Britain was running a so-called structural deficit of 5.2pc in 2007 – far higher than the 2.5pc initially stated by the IMF.

    Using this measurement, which records the amount by which public borrowing exceeds tax revenues after external economic factors are considered, Britain entered the global financial crisis in a worse position than other major economic powers. America’s structural deficit was 3.3pc, France’s was 3pc and Germany’s 1.1pc.”

    The truth is finally coming out about Brown’s recklessness.


    • 22
      Ed Balls - Shallow Chancer says:


    • 30
      Labour Party...BBC Wing says:

      Sorry…not listening we are too busy scaremongering about loss of benefits for the disabled and spreading unsubstantiated rumours and panic about wholesale throwing disabled on to the streets !!!


    • 31
      Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin ( Member in absentia ) says:

      2.5%. 5.2%. What’s the difference ? It was not spending, it was ‘investment’.


    • 38
      Loungelizard says:

      This information is not for public consumption but now you come to mention it why isn’t it a bigger story?


  11. 19
    Broadsword calling Danny Boy says:

    What family blog is that you Hunt?


  12. 29
    EdMiliband says:

    Thhit! I’m going to have to wewrite my PMQ thcript – employment up! thhit! Now 6 on Mitchell


  13. 35

    …not suitable for a family blog You can tell us – we will keep it secret, honest.


  14. 39

    The next metalogical Labour claim will be that Coalition public spending cuts are responsible for the structural deficit being higher.


  15. 40
    Ed Moribund says:

    I’ve dethided not to go ahead with Andy’s heath polithies for editorial reathons.


  16. 42
    Mick Postlethwaite says:

    Same old Labour. They play powergames and turf wars, holding government hostage and spraying money around on wasteful projects in vain bids to buy allies.


  17. 44
    Jimmy Savile says:

    Andy Burnham.
    What a fucking arsehole.


  18. 50
    A hem says:

    Is that you Chris?


  19. 52
    Charlie the Chump says:

    Everyone knows Ed’s a complete Jeremy’Unt


  20. 58
    JBones says:

    Family blog? Pull the other nob.


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