October 10th, 2012

Fox Opens New Pilgrims Angle

A significant Pilgrims development from yesterday. Liam Fox suggested that unions are basing their calculations for facility time allocations – how many hours taxpayer funded trade unionists are allowed to spent on union acitivity – on a 40% exaggeration of the real figure:

“The picture may actually be worse than appears at face value since the Facility Time allocations – the delightfully obtuse name for official trade union activities — is based on full departmental headcounts not the union membership within a department. For example,the PCS website claims that there are “more than 55,000 members” within Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HM RC). Yet, elsewhere on their website they explain that the HM RC Facility Time allocation for the current year is being based on the departmental headcount of 75,456. In other words, they base their calculations for their union time – and ultimately public remuneration – on a 40% exaggeration of the actual number of members they actually serve.”

Potentially meaning that the unions are raking in huge amounts of taxpayer cash against the rules. This one has legs…


  1. 1
    Sir Jimmy meets Mrs T says:

    Now then, now then

  2. 2
    George Gideon Oliver Osborne says:

    “This one has legs”

    Unlike myself ,who is on wheels.

  3. 3
    Kebab Time says:

    Stay on this Guido and co.

    The unions snout is firmly in the taxpayers trough.

  4. 4
    B1lly hasn't been out of the house in 30 years says:

    Hi B1lly. What time is your carer due to come over and give you a bath?

  5. 5
    Archibald Maule Ramsay MP says:

    That’s my boy, Liam.

  6. 6
    Kebab Time says:

    Poor little TaT, been waiting all day for me to comment and that is the best you can come up with?

  7. 7
    I wanted to meet Santa but Jimmy fixed me for nine months says:

    I think Fox wants to wipe out whole Cities.

  8. 8
    Bumboys and nonces says:

    “Butch” to his friends.

    And no wonder with a weapon that size.

    How does Adam manage?

  9. 9
    Nullbymouth says:

    You sir are a bissell dustpan and I claim my 5 litres of Eco cleaning products

  10. 10
    ToonBob... says:

    Unions telling porky pies? Surely some mistake :)

  11. 11
    Modest proposal says:

    Good idea. Start with Leicester and Bradford.

  12. 12
    ÁC1 says:

    It’s projection. His carer is most likely late.

  13. 13
    L.Fox, English Patriot says:

    Guido, Adam and I are off down to Heathrow airport to support the Al-Qaeda freedom fighters, back from beheading and torturing evil Assad-supporting civilians. Take it you and all the nutters at Order-Schmorder will be there!

  14. 14
    Bob Crowe says:

    They giv the miwillionaires in the cabinet a £40k cheque but us workers are put upon again.

    more shatto nerf derpap waiter

  15. 15
    Justine Greening says:

    Unlike myself who pissed £40 million of taxpayers money up against the wall with the rail franchise fiasco.

  16. 16
    Kebab Time says:

    I hope he or she feels better soon then.

  17. 17
    Mark Sirwatacunt says:

    ‘This has legs’

    I shall now multiply 75,456 by the number of legs that a parasite has (8) giving a membership of 603,648

    Just coz I look like that gayer of Frankie goes to Hollywood doesnt mean I’m not stupid.

    who’s boots are those shoes?
    who’s coat is that jacket?

  18. 18
    Freddie Starr says:

    Project my cock in your mouth.

  19. 19
    Liam Fox says:

    Those were the days with Weapon fully cocked and Adam as my rear gunner.

  20. 20
    AC1 says:

    Anti-Semite truth teller!!! Arrest the hate speaker!

  21. 21
    Loungelizard says:

    Ah…the Algerian red Sir, a very good choice if I may say so…..

  22. 22
    Mark Sirwatacunt says:

    Ill have some vintage Beaujolais nouveau

  23. 23
    ToonBob... says:

    Silly boy, take an Alka-Seltzer…..

  24. 24
    8illy 8owden, the world's greatest umplre says:

    “more than 55,000 members” can be 75,456.

    You’re legless again, Guido.

  25. 25
    Civil Service says:

    It was excel spreadsheet malfunction

  26. 26
    Sir James Savile says:

    Top bloke. Loves his mum. Loves cock. Loves Israel!

  27. 27
    Bob Crowe says:

    97 was a veentage

  28. 28
    Nullbymouth says:

    what a dick!

  29. 29
    Boris the Beast says:

    Dr Fox has been in many a tight hole
    Hasnt he Adam?

  30. 30
    Rt. Hon. Baroness Thatcher of Pestilence says:

    I’m not going to sit here and have my dear friends abused. Now what has that giant butterfly done with my drink. Crawfie!

  31. 31
    Gonk says:

    Burglary figures are sure to plummet.

  32. 32
    Jimmy says:

    40 mil?

    You wish.

  33. 33
    The Golem says:

    Liam Fox demonstrates new, approved anti-burglar device?

  34. 34
    Bumboys and nonces says:

    But can be relied on to make a good fist of it.

  35. 35
    Ronald Shiner says:

    Old Foxy Fox knows a thing or two about fiddling, does he not? And I’m not talking about young Adam.

    ‘Liam Fox resigned as it emerged that the Defence Secretary had personally asked a City financier to bankroll his unofficial adviser.. The Defence Secretary announced that he was resigning after detailed disclosures showed Mr Werritty’s activities were funded by companies and individuals that potentially stood to benefit from Government decisions.’

    You don’t think we’ve forgotten so soon do you Foxy?


  36. 36
    Mrs Pilgrim says:

    If only I had taken a duvet day

  37. 37
    Lord Savile of Younggirls says:

    Well that’s a relief.

  38. 38

    The Hunt for ЯED EDTOBEЯ

    In a suburb of Moscow {Islington} the first chief of the first directorate of the labour party , Edvarisch Bollockov is in conference.

    “Comrade Burnham, what is going on?”

    “Sir, it seems Captain Яed Ed is intent on sailing in Tory waters. He has taken our top secret, almost undetectable, policy program and is conversing with the enemy”

    “He is a hero of the revolution. His father was a recipient of the order of Lenin.”

    “yes sir..but..he has become disillusioned with…with..well..I..I hesitate to..”

    “Spit it out man!”

    “yes..he has become ..concerned..with the current direction of your glorious economic policy. He feels it…it..lacks credibility, comrade director general.”

    “What? And this man is in charge of our complete ‘silent media’ profile boat?”

    “it is worse than that Comrade . We have discovered…He is also a millionaire.

    Bollockov walked to the large window and peered out at the proletariat of Islington. Sipping lattes and reading the Guardian on their smart phones. These poor working class people had no idea what might occur if Яed Ed was defecting.

    Bollockov turned back to Burnham and sternly gave his orders.

    “Mobilise all forces. Full alert. Get Tom Watson of the KGB in here. I want all political propaganda organs, The Mirror. The independent. The BBC ..all ready to broadcast a statement from me in one hour. Have all the activists out knocking on doors..”

    A trembling Burnham asked..”You think he’s gone rouge? You want us to bring him back?”

    Bollockov narrowed his eyes. “No you fool! I want to make sure that geeky faced nerd has really gone”

  39. 39
    ÁC1 says:

    Hello sock-puppet TaT. I hope you get well soon.

  40. 40
    Corrie L'Anus says:

    and again I refer you to my comment of yesterday ‘hmmm one wonders how the Ex-Right Hon ‘Flying at taxpayers’ expense quite often’ Fox is spending his Ministerial pay-off but that was HIS money surely??? ….How very dare he…’….he really is one cheeky bastard irrespective of the facts of his current epistle…I am trying not to despair at the paucity of potential leaders!!

  41. 41
    Lord Stansted says:

    How would the BBC be reporting this story had Savile worked at Central Office?

  42. 42
    Rupert says:

    TaT was probably abused as a child in a most beastly way.

    Well, I hope he was.

  43. 43
    Chesters Mother ! says:

    A pure gem of a post top one Bill!

  44. 44
    Dr Evil says:

    This here union modernisation fund should be abolished too. Why is the government funding its political enemies both via Pilgrims and this utter waste of taxpayers money? Morons.

  45. 45
    Rupert says:

    Probably much less. The 40m was to be spent anyway. The extra cost is in the re-bid and anyone who knows the first fucking thing about procurement – like someone who ain’t a half pissed hack – knows that rebidding is much cheaper because the donkey work is already done first time round.

  46. 46
    annette curton says:

    It was good while it lasted.

  47. 47
    Jimmy says:

    You mean as opposed to an annual Christmas guest at Chequers knighted by Attila the Hen?

  48. 48
    Spot says:

    Shall we revisit the last Lab gov NHS computer software system again,
    how many £billions wasted????????????

  49. 49
    Tay King-dePisse says:

    Fifty-five-odd thousand somehow morphing nay metastasising into 75,456. (Of course, that sort of thing could never take place in, say, postal voting, now could it? Or am I “Labour”-ing under a misconception here?) It’s obvious that a certain innumerate bloc of people can’t do their sums properly, but we’re talking roughly 20,000 here! That number would fill up some football grounds! Kinda hard not to notice them!

  50. 50
    I wanted to see how Barbies are made but Jimmy showed me the ropes. says:

    Liam for PM.

  51. 51
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    These pilgrim’s are not so much the governments enemies but more like enemies of this country.

  52. 52
    8illy 8owden, the world's greatest umplre says:

    “more than 55,000” can be 75,456.

  53. 53
    8illy 8owden, the world's greatest umplre says:

    Can’t have too much brev

  54. 54
    The more I nail Jimmy, the more innocent I'll look says:

    Birmingham first.

  55. 55
    Anonymous says:

    Stop this crap NOW. Why are waiting for all handouts from the hard working families that Labour is always bleating on about (as opposed to the idle Hunts who sit about with their begging bowls) to be stopped AT ONCE. I have worked with one of these shiftless trouble making bastards. If the unions want to stir it up let the fuckers pay for it. Words fail me as to why this is still going on. Get a fucking grip Dave and scrap the carp NOWWWWW.

  56. 56
    Uncle Joe says:

    Deviants and Wreckers. Shoot them

  57. 57
    Plug says:

    Wasn’t Liam Fox the bloke who took his best mate everywhere with him.

    There was some sort of scandal wasn’t there?

    I’m sorry, my memory is not what it was.

  58. 58
    A Carp says:


  59. 59
    Jimmy says:

    No this is obviously an entirely different Liam Fox. There is no way this crusader against public sector corruption could be in any way related to the former Defence Secretary forced to resign for abusing his position to allow his “Best Man” to profit from it. That would be absurd.

  60. 60
    prdeltold says:

    This is nonsense. It reflects both the ignorance and prejudice of those who are not just against such arrangments but are anti union cf Fox, Fawkes,Cole.

    Many ny employers use ‘check off’ ie the employer deducts union subs. They know how many members unions have.

    Trade unions reps have a legal right for time off. Facilities arrangements are there to reduce the cost and disruption of providing access to those rights.

  61. 61
    Hang The Bastards says:

    Pardon me for being stupid but… ISNT THIS PLAIN FRAUD !

    Any other organisation doing this would be in the dock. So tell me what is different about a union and the Chief Executives that run them ?

  62. 62
    cynic says:

    If they are doing that there are potential criminal offences of fraud and false accounting. Will Cameron dare have them investigated?

  63. 63
  64. 64
    GuardianBBCalloneword says:

    For goodness sake woman, pull yourself together !

  65. 65
    The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

    Don’t you mean “Koi”?

  66. 66
    Gerry Healey says:

    Very much like what Trotsky used to say in the old Soviet Union. I think we have a Trot amongst us friends.

  67. 67
    Paddy O'File says:

    News just come in: Jeremy Forrest is Jimmy Saile’s love child.

  68. 68
    JH says:

    Lots of bedwetters popping up in this thread, I dearly hope they are being paid well for their efforts.

    This one is obviously going to bite. Like their favourite paper, their little edifices of power can only exist with considerable subsidy from the productive.

  69. 69
    Alex says:

    In the real world what you say is true, but sadly on Planet Civil servant it probably doesn’t work that way. Just as a “pay freeze” doesn’t mean a pay freeze but a “pay sacle freeze with annual increments for all”, when they tal about union members some bloated bureaucrat will probably say the money covers all staff members who could be union members.

    We live in despair.

  70. 70
    Anonymous says:

    Speaking of forced resignations what’s going on in the case of Hu*ne & the ex Mrs.H and is there any connection with the Briscoe arrest?
    Why have the meeja gone silent on these matters?

  71. 71
    Diddley says:

    So would this mean that if, say, the Department of Health have staff split across two unions the total staff are claimed by each union separately? Doubling the numbers up effectively – whether they are in a union or not….

  72. 72
    Muttondagger says:

    Is that how you caught gunnerear foxy ?

  73. 73
    Muttondagger says:

    they were very good chums [allegedly] nothing more.

  74. 74
    PlebsRproles says:

    I breed koi carp and if this government starts attacking them then I will not vote for them again.

  75. 75
    ed martin says:

    a) tell us about the TA – employers have to allow time off for training – another example of ‘good intent but who’s paying?

    b) arts subsidies – why?

    c) low income incomes paying for high incomes’ solar power subsidies

    d) who pays for local poli’s time? an acquaintance of ours did 3 days work for the NHS (for 5 days pay) then picked up local authority money for the other two

    the ‘pilgrim’ abuse is well highlighted but is it the tip of the shitberg?

  76. 76
    Gordon F Brown says:

    I would stop it today…

  77. 77
    keredybretsa says:

    This needs a wider public, but in simpler language of course.

  78. 78
    Bummer boy says:

    Just bum chums

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