October 7th, 2012

See Guido’s Column in the Daily Star Sunday

In the column this week:


180 Comments

  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    While this weeks Guido Fawkes column is good this week, the best story is on page 4

    ” Short Staffing”

    The UK has been hit by a dwarf shortage because of the craze for handcuffing little people to the groom to be on stag parties

    At last Briton has founda growth industry!

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    • 3
      getting to grips with guido's column says:

      8illy, is this some kind of sick fantasy of yours?

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    • 5
      The Squeaker says:

      I’m giving my dwarf a thorough tossing due to missus being away.

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    • 15
      Left Right Left says:

      The trouble with Dave is that he puts more effort into appealing to the Guardianistas than he does the Tories, and that is a lose lose situation.

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    • 66
      AC1 says:

      As you won’t be seeing this on Aljabeebya..

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    • 71
      AC1 says:

      Nigel Farage MEP
      UKIP are a complete waste of time says Cameron yet since Cameron has become leader, membership of the Tory party has halved and UKIP are polling higher than LDs

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  2. 2
    Ed Milionaire says:

    I’m an ordinary kinda guy.

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  3. 6
    Dave "Butch" Cameron says:

    I will tell Conference that I’m so glad that Abu Hamza has been extradited……We’re finally off the hook.

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    • 8
      Don't cheer too soon...the Daily Mail Reader is a fickle beast says:

      ER not quite….Gary McKinnon ExtraditionCase still bubbling along nicely… 10 years and counting…..if you extradite him then the Daily Mail will quickly go from praise to condemnation along with Tory backbench mayhem

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      • 28
        Dr Nuts says:

        Well, here’s the Lib-Lab-Con solution.
        Despite being in power as Government, blame the other side as Government in exile. Despite having now all the authority of executive and legislative power, accuse the other side of having all the power!

        Labour did it for 13 years, and now Condems are doing despite over 2 years in power!

        It’s a simple trick – take the reign of power but don’t take any responsibility for being in power!

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        • 54
          Anonymous says:

          ALL 3 parties could be in power.
          Less heat less wastage. a liblabcon co.alition.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Nobody would notice the difference anyway – they’re all as incompetent as each other.

            Abolish Parliament Belgium didn’t have a Govt after WW2, nobody noticed instead there was stability in country to rebuild!

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          • Anonymous says:

            a huge developmeny like child birth is a trauma. the birth of america as no. 1 was a trauma. child is becoming an adult. so tantrums in the west.

            the “they are all the same” political class do not deserve our time.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            I agree – vote independent.
            Just be aware that the Lefties put up false candidates eg Shawn Woodward – who stood as a Conservative then crossed the floor.

            Ask if the independent candidate actually is: or going to join labour?
            Luton South and Shawn Woodward’s friend BBC Luuvy Rantzen comes to mind.

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      • 67
        AC1 says:

        Boot the script kiddie out.

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    • 9
      The Tory Chutney Tendency says:

      It never rains but it pours….now the Women’s Institute and Churches are anti-EU

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2213975/Tradition-selling-jam-used-jars-breaches-EU-health-safety-rules.html

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      • 11
        gramma says:

        Maybe the EU should bottle it.

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      • 14
        Ade Nuffovthairfuckinlies says:

        Can anyone recommend a disinfectant which is effective against the EU disease ?

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      • 24
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        Oh dear, more bollocks from Lunchtime O’Booze at the DM. The EU regulation actually mirrored a UK regulation in place since the 1960′s – and just like that one will never be enforced.

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        • 33
          A Jam Jar says:

          Then why has our useless government not repealed it and forced the EU to drop this nonsense?

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          • Barrowboy Dave says:

            Gay marriage, anyone? Gay marriages! Git yer gay marriages! Come on, darlin, git yer gay marriages. Three for a paaahnd! Hurry hurry hurry! I’ll be gone soon, grab ‘em while yer can! Gay marriage! Git yer gay marriage!

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          • harringay says:

            Gay marriages? We can’t give ‘em away round ‘ere mate.

            The sad thing is, Camerhoon thought he was doing something useful and popular. The twat really should get out more.

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        • 40
          Ade Nuffovthairfuckinlies says:

          If it will never be enforced then it shouldn’t exist in the first place.
          Typically, this sort of thing would indeed be ignored in (say) France but would be ‘gold-plated’ and enforced regardless of cost, rhyme or reason by the arseholes in Whitehall.

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        • 43
          Appealing to your Core Vote says:

          Shades of Jim Hacker’s Greatest Triumph ???…..The Campaign to Save the “British” Sausage springs to mind…perhaps “Dave” could launch a campaign in his conference speech to Save British Chutney and Jams from the perfidous Froggies/Huns ? Should go down well with the Daily Mail tendency

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    disenfranchised says:

    Always liked George. History buff toff or whatever, he makes a lot more sense than the Ed cases

    http://skypressoffice.co.uk/newstranscripts/murnaghan-71012-interview-george-osborne-chancellor-exchequer

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    • 17
      Dr Nuts says:

      Interesting – history buff?
      Conservatives seem to have a very short memory when it comes to wanting to deregulate the banks further so that the sh*t we’re in would’ve been a lot worse.

      Fortunately, I found a 2006 missive in Georges own words!
      http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches/2006/04/Osborne_Building_a_competitive_economy_-_tackling_the_skills_gap.aspx
      Regulation too inhibits enterprise. For example, speak to any business in financial services – from the largest investment bank to smallest independent financial adviser – and the threat of future regulation from Whitehall and Brussels is now their number one concern. Para 39

      Hmm. As if things aren’t bad now – if Conservatives had been in power 2005, they would’ve been a whole order worse!
      I may hate Gordon Brown, but he’s better than George. He may not have saved the world, but he did save Britain – not by any action performed, but by not having George in no11!!

      George wanted to further deregulate the Financial services. Woo hoo!! What a hero!!

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      • 19
        disenfranchised says:

        Osborne did Modern History at Oxbridge. Something about knowing about recent events so as not to completely repeat the mistakes
        Forget his missives. As long as he doesn’t repeat Gordon’s massives the UK should survive.

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        • 29
          Dr Nuts says:

          OK! So I think I’ve got the idea, instead of repeating Gordon’s mistakes, make your own!

          History?
          Interesting, Australia never went into recession 2007/8. Instead of giving the money to the banks, the Australian Conservative Government had 2 bailouts where the money went to the sectors of the economy identified as non-savers. That meant the money got spent,
          Looks like this:
          Gov -> non-saver -> business -> bank ….
          Banks are re-inflated but have to give the money to the business sector.
          Hmm, doesn’t that solve today’s UK financial problem!
          The only problem is that it involves giving money to everybody but the tax-avoiders! – the people this government is determined to hurt at all political machinations.
          How dare they live! Oh, that’s alright through the NHS, Condems are killing them off!

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          • Psychiatrist says:

            Dr Nutts, you have chosen an apt blog name. You truly are nuts.

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          • a non says:

            Psycho. He is probably a vegetarian too.
            If only he would eat a few babies like the rest of us he might benefit from the change in his diet.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Oh, thank you, if coming up with solutions to the economic problems without creating more, causing recessions, or bailing out the impoverished bank’s bonus pots with QE.

            IF saving the private business sector by using known and proven solutions; and not pure political theory is insanity – then I’m only too happy!

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            A veggie? Eeeks!
            Nope, I eat cooked cows and sheep…
            And fish on Weds and Fridays!
            Am a practicing Catholic (one day I might even good at it!), even sing in the choir!

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          • gramma says:

            Even a tosser comes up with solutions.
            Unfortunately yours appear to have fallen on stony ground.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            OK Dr Nuts – and in response to your above and below comments – here is the challenge:-

            For all of your financial and economical nous please tell us all here:

            1 How much in total has Britain repaid in “War Loans” including interest since the end of WW2? [The repayments ended about 5 years ago]

            2 Who were the ‘end of the line’ beneficiaries of said loans & interest payments?

            3 Who were the original “Contract” signatories?

            4 and are those “Contracts” ‘embargoed’ for 100 or 200 years from public view?

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      • 22
        Anonymous says:

        The only reason we are out of the euro is because McBroon wanted to foil Bliar & not for any other reason.Brown’s rifts with Bliar totally obliterated any thoughts of the best interests of the country.

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        • 25
          Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

          Sounds a bit like the rift between Cameron and Fox. Thank god Cameron removed Fox from anywhere he could exert influence.

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      • 23

        The regulation/deregulation argument is a barren one IMO.

        I start off with the premise that if a person deposits money with a bank, he needs to have some reasonable certainty that his money will still be there when he wants it back.

        From that point it becomes relatively straightforward to construct a system which allows competition but not self-annihilation by the providers.

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        • 31
          Dr Nuts says:

          The best answer is not to allow the commercial sector of the banks to use the money to operate the casino / stock market trading element of the bank.

          With that in place, cheques should be cleared into an account in a matter of minutes. The only reason they take 3-5 working days is so the bank can gamble using the money!

          Banks don’t provide a service, they are profit centres. A simple solution is just to nationalise them, and operate them simply as commercial centres for real economy operation. Trouble is – as Thatcher pronounced when privatising everything – MPs are incompetent to organise a p*ss up in brewery, so can’t run a business effectively.

          At least she was honest about it! (Even if she was a bit fanciful with the exact wording – the message was clear! Conservatives don’t know how to run a business let alone the economy).

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          • Earning a quick buck from suckers says:

            “The only reason they take 3-5 working days is so the bank can gamble using the money”….not quite true as my bank gives you value for interest purposes in your account on Day 2 for cheques paid in ie. Pay in on Monday…Value Tuesday although it will not be available to draw until Day 3 Wednesday but it effectively reduces od interest on Day 2 and for savings you get value Day 2 as well…this has been standard in the industry since early 90′s….it’s the “turn” in the rate where they make the profit..i.e. pay you peanuts for savings and charge vast amounts for overdrafts e.g. They pay you 0,5% on savings but charge you 18.4% to borrow…….

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          • Trahison des Clercs says:

            For ‘Conservative don’t’ in@31, substitute the words ‘no labour government ever knew or will ever’

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            EQB – the save at 0.5% interest and borrow at 18%.
            It’s better than that – everyone wants into the Credit Card scam – lend at 39.9%, with daily interest, excessive punitive charges, the interest is charged on the whole amount regardless if some is paid, unless it’s the whole amount, and the whole deal is unregulated.

            Or… Pay Day loans – get one at a mere 3000+%… can’t wait for the banks to start that wheeze! It out-performs the stock market, and can be applied to all current account ‘lending’.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            no labour government ever knew or will ever
            I agree wholeheartedly. The fundamental problem with Labour is it’s formed by the Unions. Unions are not a private enterprise but a pressure group intended to prevent bad business practice.

            As for no labour government – how about no labour mp or member?
            They are fundamentally incompetent to take the reigns of power, they are fundamentally unable to understand the most important aspect of the UK economy – the private sector.
            They are perfect for opposition, but should never operate as the government. I voted Labour 1ce, when I thought that Blair had a clue, back in 1997. I deeply regret that to this day.

            So who should have power? Certainly not any of the cretins in Parliament right now – every MP is detestible regardless of persuasion and in a lot of cases because of their persuasions!!

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          • I hate Parliament so much it hurts says:

            “the interest is charged on the whole amount regardless if some is paid”

            Hardly anyone I speak to is aware of that fact – in fact I wasn’t aware of it until a couple of years ago (and I used to work in banking), and since then I’ve made damn sure I never spend more on a card than I can pay off in one go.

            Your sentence, above, should be in bold print, at the top and bottom of each page of every card’s statement, underneath the larger bold print that says, “We are a bunch of thieving crooks and we intend to fleece you at any and every given opportunity. And your government lets us! Mwa hahahahaha!”

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Further every section should have the heading:
            Beware: This is how we’re going to Fleece You
            Section …

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          • @Dr Nuts

            One has to take a step or two back. FRB is a culprit in this as well. It creates bubbles or pyramids depending on your stance, neither of which are desirable. But we are landed with it. Therefore reserve requirements are critical. There is no minimum reserve required in the UK which is nonsensical. In Switzerland it is 2.5%. It should rise when business risk increases.

            Banks have met their capital requirements (Basel II/III) by not lending to good risks and other counter-productive measures.

            Now your point comes in. Of course the casino operations must be done outside of the banks’ structure. Getting worldwide agreement on that will probably be impossible. The Volcker rule is by no means a guarantee. It is clear from the trail of problems from Nick Leeson at Barings to the recent case of Kweku Adoboli at UBS shows that management cannot control the trading so it has no place in the business model if it can produce unforecastable losses of the sizes seen.

            Finally, banks are businesses. Therefore they are profit centres. We may have to adjust our views that free banking is a realistic possibility.

            Nationalisation is perhaps the last thing we want although in theory, half the system has now been nationalised instead of being allowed to go bust for performing badly. That does not contradict my original statement as in the final analysis there is no such thing as too big to fail.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Too big to fail is a quantifiable issue.
            It’s this – savings to £38,000 are guarenteed, but how many people have £38,000 saved?
            I admit I do not know if that includes the pensions.

            So we come to who loses? Well all debts are underwritten, so all mortgages are still owed regardless, but all savings above £38000 are lost.
            Now, who could possibly suffer the most from having their savings lost?
            Wouldn’t be the ‘rich’ and most importantly (in their minds) the MPs. To save their savings, they’ll happily condemn everyone else to financial misery!

            The banks are going to crash en-mass. 2015 is my expected date.
            Why? The US banks owe 3 x The Global GDP. The US Reserve is trying to bail out the banks and money is just disappearing into a black hole.

            When the banks go down, we’ll face a new financial era. No banks, money is worthless, so we face the ‘Revelations’ financial reality, with a new fiscal model.

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          • Blimey! I come from the banking sector and I regarded my outlook as pessimistic but your outlook is suicidal by comparison.

            Look, I hope I am wrong. But although I cannot guarantee what you prophesy will not happen, I consider that you are ultra pessimistic.

            Let me offer an example, the mighty Deutsche mark. It went on long after the reason for its fundamental strength had evaporated. But eventually it happened (just as I had forecast all those years ago as it happens.) Markets run on sentiment, not fundamentals … until the fundamentals are so bleeding obvious that they take over. 2007 was the last time that happened.

            Anyway, who guarantees that £38,000 is saved? If it is an insurance company, you will never collect. Financial guarantee is actually banned in Lloyds of London and rightly so. If it is the government then pah!

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          • AC1 says:

            If a bank is allowed to fail then the non-payment of bond-holders and shareholder losses is a deflationary even which the government can easily afford to print money (and counter the deflation)in order to recapitalise standard depositors.

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        • 70
          AC1 says:

          The secret is the limit to which deposits are reloaned out (to become further deposits).

          Limiting this “wrapping” of money supply is the sole banking “regulation” needed in a currency monopoly (actually controlling credit inflation).

          The problem is that credit-inflation looks identical to comparative advantage (income tax acts like a reserve requirement on wealth creation)..
          Politically it’s much easier to grow credit than cut income taxes.

          So therefore we get regular credit bubbles of fake economic growth, then then inevitable fallout returned plus interest…

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            See above – the debts owed by the US banks is GLOBAL GDP x 3.
            They’ve managed to mortgage the planet. Assuming the globe was able to repay the monies owed, it’d be exactly paying a mortgage, and for Politicians globally, its explaining that we ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER, that includes the RICH!!

            Something that no politician likes doing is suffering for their politics – that’s what their peasants are for!

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Could Dr Nuts reply to my 4 questions posted at 9:36 PM and referencing above and below postings of others here today?

            Or

            Is he ignoring the questions whilst ‘pretending to address other questions and issues? Lets be ‘avin you DR Nuts – at least SC has the decency to reply – whether or not he and I agree with one another or not.

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          • Anonymous says:

            when the situation is undertood, does mission impossible become mission possible? in a world based on favours, will the US debt be written off? what will the chinese get in return.

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          • It is novel to shown approval by you, BW, even if not fulsome. Whilst I do not have to agree with everyone I do like to establish the truth.

            That is why, even though I often take exception to your approach and style, I will answer you – sometimes. I will even agree with you on those occasions where I think you are correct as you will already have seen.

            One thing I do not agree with is the use of ad hominem in serious argument. I also take exception when people claim to know my position (political, financial etc.) when they don’t. Similarly to those who claim to speak for others when they can only speak for themselves. You have done all these at times.

            Alfred the Great wisely inverted the Golden Rule in his Book of Dooms. He said Don’t do unto others that which you would not want done unto yourself. It is easier to live by than the Golden Rule.

            So there are times when I respond and, especially in the circumstances mentioned above, there are times when I now walk away to avoid descension into puerility.

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  5. 10
    Dave "Butch" Cameron says:

    EXCLUSIVE

    This will be my warm-up gag to Conference

    “How does Moses make his tea?”

    “Hebrews it”

    I understand that Mad Frankie Maude will have my coat ready.

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  6. 12
    Dave"The One Term Prime Minister" Cameron says:

    The most vital vote to be Conference is

    “That David Cameron follows Guido Fawkes on his twitter account”

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  7. 18
    John Johnson says:

    “Buy the #DailyStarSunday ” I don’t buy soft porn, Dirty Des has the hard stuff in his other titles. Hey Guido any movement on Des giving you a chance to host your own political program on one of chanel 5 channels, don’t forget it would be your chance to outshine Brillo and Paxo, go on, you know you want to, ask him, don’t forget 8i££y would record every program.

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    • 20
      a non says:

      That, and Labour lovies demanding that Leveson must follow their concerns, disregard the comment from other witnesses and that an Independent media watchdog should be imposed will have Guido laughing all the way to his Irish bank.

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    • 27
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      Will this version of a talk show be to politics what topless darts was to sport?

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      • 53
        Ex-Conservative says:

        How about the political interviewees are strapped into an electric chair. “Text NO to 88888 to Free ‘em, Text YES to 888889 to Fry ‘em.”

        Of course, it might be difficult to get politicians onto the show, but waving some taxpayers’ cash in front of their noses should do the job.

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    • 75
      johnny's gay gerbil says:

      “I don’t buy soft porn,”

      No. it’s the hard stuff you like Johnny, innit?

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  8. 32
    A pasty says:

    What I would like to know is why we tolerate politicians taxing food.

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  9. 37
    Liar Liar Pants on Fire says:

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  10. 41
    nellnewman says:

    tories ban champagne at their conference – I bet bobcrowe had champagne at the labour conference!

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  11. 42
    Anonymous says:

    I suppose with a name like orr it depends how you pronounce it.

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  12. 58
    the savant says:

    Jesse Ventura embarrasses Piers Morgan on his TV show re the collapse of WTC 7 building on 9/11. It was s till standing when the BBC live feed came oin to London saying it had …. er…. collapsed !!

    http://planet.infowars.com/resistance/piers-morgan-embarrasses-himself-in-front-of-jesse-ventura-over-wtc-7-collapsepiers-morgan-tonight-aired-september-17-2012

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  13. 76
    Slippery, smooth-talking ‘Dave’ - last ‘Conservative’ PM – ever, says:

    Do you see how pink and smooth my hands are? That shows I’ve never ever done A Real Day’s Work, – and do you know – I’m proud of it!

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  14. 77
    jimmy savile's salacious ghost says:

    Fuck me, Sandi Toksvig is at it now. She should just be grateful and STFU, ugly lezza.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/07/sandi-toksvig-groped-on-air-working-tv_n_1946174.html?ncid=webmail1

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    • 170
      AC1 says:

      I seem to remember her groping some bloke in “whose line is it anyway?”

      Maybe she’s projecting?

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  15. 79
    THE BBC ARE FUCKED, THE SISTERS ARE ON THEIR CASE says:

    Aren’t the BBC awful?

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  16. 81
    Aunty Matter says:

    Well plenty of us have been commenting that the BBC is a perverts den for years, the whole drugs scene needs looking at as well.

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  17. 83
    Dave "Butch" Cameron says:

    I’m ashamed to admit that I was forced to have gay sex at gunpoint before.

    I don’t like resorting to violence but I will if I have to.

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  18. 85
    funny you should mention groping sandy says:

    How ironic that Sandy Toksvig should mention groping on the Andy Marr Show. The little jug eared bastard just carried on regardless.

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  19. 87
    Universal Hiss says:

    & Cameron will ignore it.

    Anyone been reading the Telegraph about Dave’s rubbish? I’ve never seen such fury in the comments.

    Seeing his weasel words about migration(shouldn’t that be immigration?) EU increased handouts from this country(which he will cave into & give)& insulting UKIP voters,he has just lost his party several thousand souls.

    That’s some going in a few hours. What a total fucking failure the man is.

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  20. 89
    Blowing Whistles says:

    Watched the Grant Shapps or was it Mr Green farce on CH4 news tonight.

    What a ‘plonker’ Shapps is. Tory’s themselves must (and should) be cringing with his pisspoor performance. And watching him ‘scuttle’ off when approached by Crick was just priceless. He’ll be off to Rupee’s ranch in the USA at the first opportunity like the Mench.

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    • 179
      Anonymous says:

      sadly and gladly sign of the times…..michael Green aka Grant from eastenders.
      at least multiple identities are out in the open now.

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  21. 91
    Blowing Whistles says:

    These Police and Crime Commisioner elections are just another ‘ruse’ – to control budgets at the hands of an even more ‘controlled’ group of 43 or so men and women.

    The ‘Stitch Up’ is already a ‘done deal’ where chosen candidates have been placed into position. Each of the chosen ones are themselves ‘compromised’ by their own not so ‘clean backgrounds’.

    As for being “Independent” – YES 100% Independent of the Public and beholden & craven to their political stringpulling masters. [The ones who hold the 'dirt on them' few ultimately]

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  22. 92
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Shilling for Dirty Desmond does you no credit at all.

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    • 94
      A woman says:

      I agree with m’lady.

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    • 100
      The Daily Star sums up the intellect of its readership says:

      Oooh! Ahh!
      Say oooh ahhh Daily Star,
      Say oooh ahhh Daily Star!

      Say oooh ahhh Daily Star,
      Say oooh ahhh Daily Star!
      Ooh ahh oooh ahhh ooh ahh Daily Star!

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  23. 96

    Should a bank pay dividends from losses? (Lloyds)

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    • 114
      Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

      No. It should pay a dividend from the compensation it is owed by the government for fraudulently misrepresenting the liabilities of HBOS to the BOE during the takeover.

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      • 124

        The government is acting on behalf of us. If it fails in this regard and, oh boy, did it fail in this instance then it is not for the taxpayer to pay a dividend to the stockholders. That would be midnight madness – on stilts.

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        • 134
          Universal Hiss says:

          About as sensible as borrowing money & giving it away in foreign aid to countries who don’t need it or it’s fraudulently siphoned off.

          Still all three parties do midnight madness-on stilts so nothing would surprise me.

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        • 156
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Interesting piece / expose in the Financial MOS today about RBS – and several of its branches in Scotland – and of thieving of monies from someones acoount. Fred the Shred and his lesser Gordon F Pell – cannot deny that they were informed of moneylaundering activities going on through their Hamilton Branch outside of Glasgow back in 2006 … but they and their co-conspirators to date remain ‘in denial’ of it. It ain’t rocket science. It’s corruption from within and of the highest order.

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  24. 96
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    I’ve just seen a headline saying that the useless wally George Osbourne is going to vote in favour of gay marriages in churches.

    Can I hope that this vote will include:

    Catholic churches
    Mosques
    Synagogues
    Hindu Temples

    Because if it doesn’t then this is bigotry of the highest order.

    Cameron’s useless cnuts lost me ages ago but this sort of nonsense beggars belief

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    • 102
      What about OUR culture, Camoron? says:

      I thought Camoron swore blind that his airy-fairy law wouldn’t force churches to hold gay marriages? I guess that promise was cast iron and smashed to bits in another of the cretin’s screeching U-turns.

      Next: schools to teach the wonders of gay marriage. Any school that refuses will be prosecuted (except Muslim schools, obviously, as it’s “not in their culture”).

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      • 105
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        Cameron is a liar – not quite as bad as Blair but close.

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        • 121
          Universal Hiss says:

          You mean Cameron as a liar is not up to Blair’s standard of lying?

          I think Cameron is a bit thick & doesn’t really know he is lying. He just flails around & contradicts himself.

          Now Blair was & is an A* liar & he knows it.

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          • Anonymous says:

            what is amusing is that cameron graduated with a 1st class and Blair with a 3rd class from university. Now Cameron gets called thick and Blair gets an A*.

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      • 117
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        The proposed law includes religious premises as places where such marriages can be held. If the religious authorities do not want them to be used they cannot be forced to do so. If the proposed change does not include churches etc then those trendy vicars who want to make their church available will not be able to do so. Do check simple facts before getting them arse about face (which seems an appropriate expression given the subject).

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        • 123
          What about OUR culture, Camoron? says:

          “If the religious authorities do not want them to be used they cannot be forced to do so

          Is that a Camoron Cast-Iron Guarantee ™?

          Aren’t we learning yet?

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        • 126
          Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

          So does it includes mosques or not?

          Anything else is prejudice.

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          • let the games begin says:

            I’d love to see them try to force a mosque to perform a gay marriage.

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          • The public says:

            I wouldn’t. I’d like the homosexual lobby to be happy with its civil ceermonies. which we are willing to tolerate and to now shut up and leave everybody else alone.

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        • 129
          Ex-Conservative says:

          With respect, you’re deluded.

          If you hire out a room in your own home as a B&B, you cannot turn away gays without the full weight of the law landing on your shoulders, screaming its PC bullshit. Religion is no excuse. You will be prosecuted. You will be derided as “scum”.

          Now you honestly believe that Dave’s Pandora’s Box isn’t going to land you in a whole heap of trouble if you say “no you cannot marry here because you’re gay”?

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          • God says:

            There’s the rub. The gay rights lobby will bully vicars and small religious communities all over the country. The threat of litigation will enough. All so a cpuple of people can defile a sacred site in search of a photo opportunity.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            So the militant Ohmo’s didn’t specifically ‘target’ the B&B [Devon / Cornwall] to further their misguided cause / bent agenda eh or were they the ohmo’s ‘influenced’ unwittingly and at arms length by the militant politicised wanchor Tatchel?

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        • 168
          In detail says:

          Any law which causes or permits churches to be used in this manner should require the site to be reconsecreated each time after it has been used for such ceremonies: and the costs of this should not be met from parish funds but by the homosexual ‘couple’ which insisted on using the church, payable in advance of their wedding or by the vicar personally.

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  25. 99
    reality bytes says:

    I hope Cameron takes a long hard look at the comment section of his puff pieces in the failygraph, he is most definitely not the flavour of the week. In fact he is getting the kind of monstering he would expect in the guardian/mirror.

    Not too popular are you Dave? When the brain dead 300 finally awake from their coma and see their chances of holding on to the gravy train evaporate, they might just get around to taking you out.

    See you around Dave, its been a real slice.

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    • 104
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      I have to say I am a natural Tory. Parents from 50s council estates who worked their way up and wanted a bloody good education for their kids. No way they could have afforded a private school but I went to a good grammar, university and got a professional qualification.

      As I watch overprivileged twats like Cameron,Clegg and Milibaand argue over the most suitable way to patronise the masses I am tempted to commit major acts of violence.

      God knows Gay Gordon the cnut was bad enough but these three want to make me vomit.

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      • 122
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        I find this surprising given your support for people raising themselves above their disadvantages. After all, Miliband has overcome a speech impediment, an intellect which would make Baldrick’s dog look like Bertrand Russell and the appearance of a train spotter from the 1930s.

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        • 125
          Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

          Miliband is a product of the distorted world of the 60s left wing intellectual. His father hated Britain and to be honest should have been sent back to the Soviet Union to live out his sociological and political fantasies.

          Red Ed is cut from the same cloth.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            + 50 million (Butchered ordinary Russian people duped by Stalin, Lenin & Trotsky) (The true Gulag history that is becoming known to the masses)

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    • 108
      Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go! says:

      Maybe we’ll be lucky and the fatuous little creep’s “keynote” speech on Wednesday will be a (brief) farewell.

      The supercilious little tosser has been an abject failure since the very beginning. Another 2 years of him will only compound the nation’s misery.

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    • 115
      Ex-Conservative says:

      “When the brain dead 300 finally awake

      When Camoron failed to win a majority against the open goal that was McMental, his backbenchers gave him 18 months to achieve something or they’d chuck him out.

      Two years later, with idiotic policy decisions exploding in his puffy face on a daily basis, his backbenchers have STILL to lift a finger.

      I can only guess they miss the comfort zone of the opposition benches, which is where those few who survive electoral holocaust in 2015 are going to be dumped, for a very very long time.

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      • 150
        God says:

        That will be the least of thier problems. I can sense an ugly mood in the country bubbling along beneath the surface. Things could get nastier yet for some of these people than just being kicked out of power.

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  26. 107
    Call me Dave says:

    I’m not waving but drowning…..

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  27. 118
    Speaking from one of his private jets (aka the 18:45 from Paddington), Grant Shapps says:

    Pssst! Wanna get rich quick?

    Gimme $300 and I’ll show you how! Success guaranteed, or your money back!

    (Success not guaranteed. $300 not refundable.)

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  28. 120
    Blowing Whistles says:

    I have been asked to re-read 2 articles by Andrew Pierce.

    The first was what he published in the D Mail on December 27th 2010 [Pg 16] – Refs: Sugar, Sally Berc, Ed M, Nick C, Vince C, MucCluskey / Lenin.

    The sceond was of A Pierces take on Elton John and his partner’s child. D Mail 30th December 2010 [Pgs 14 & 15″Why I’m repelled by their grotesque selfishness”.

    JFHC – talk about hypocrites.

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  29. 130
    Saffron says:

    Lots of comments I have read make absolute sense,others do not in that they are nonsense.
    Of the three mainstream parties I would not have any hope of them acting in the national interests of the peoples of this land,and I don’t mean the people who should not be here.
    If our forebears could now be here what would they think of what a shithole of a country we have become,compliments of political assholes who should be accused of treason against this land.
    As far as their conferences are concerned all three of them can stick their lies up their ass’es. and piss off.

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  30. 132
    Thrasher Osborne says:

    It should no surprise that the boarding school elite Tory boys want to legalise Homosexual marriage.

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  31. 135
    Aunty Matter says:

    Oh fuck Neo Guido is in charge of modding tonight.

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  32. 140
    Messrs Hague & Osborne says:

    We will both vote in favour of gay marriage to be made legal.

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  33. 142
    The party of old farts says:

    Anyone watching the first day of the Tory conference would conclude the party membership is dominated by geriatric farts. Oh, wait, that’s because it is. And before I get accused of being a Labour troll, I think Labour are rotten. All the main parties are shit.

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    • 151
      Been there got the T shirt says:

      And why do you believe that older people fart more than younger people and have inferior brains?

      IMHO down the rugby club from a mere sprog it has always been the youngsters who fart most and talk the most shite.

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  34. 145
    Don't you know who I am? says:

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  35. 153
    Open letter to Sarah Brown from the general public says:

    Dear Sarah,

    Kindly fuck off. Cheers.

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    • 173
      ANOTHER MSG TO SARAH BROWN says:

      HOPE YOU GET A FLIGHT

      EVENTUALLY

      AND THAT IT TAKES YOU TO A FAR DISTANT

      GOD FORSAKEN CORNER OF THE EARTH

      FOR INSTANCE – AFGH@AN

      AND THAT YOUR VILE ‘HUSBAND’

      GOES WITH YOU

      NEVER TO RETURN

      YOURS VERY SINCERELY

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  36. 175
    Say NO to crime : FUCK the EU says:

    Be joyful ! It’s a new day, and that means one day less that we have to put up with that twat Cameron. And what a twat he is; immigration is a major issue – so what does he talk about ? Why, migration, of course. Is there any issue that this slimy little shit isn’t prepared to fudge ?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/9592411/Cameron-We-will-veto-EU-budget-rises-and-seek-to-curb-migration.html
    Barclaygraph readers ain’t buying it – more than 90% say bugger that, nothing less than an IN / OUT referendum will do.
    Dave ain’t listening. He never does.

         F       £  DAVE  REFER ENDUM      U    U  K   K   I  PPPP
          U     F  Y    £   £   £          U    U  K  K    I  P   P
           C   F   O    £   £   £NOW       U    U  K K     I  PPPP      
            K O    U    £   £   £          U    U  K  K    I  P
             £      TWAT    £   £££££       UUUU   K   K   I  P
    

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    • 180
      Anonymous says:

      f f f f f f f.

      all and everything that you wish to feck have power over you.
      when you want to stop wanting to f that is the time the other party has no power over you and yu have freedom. question: do you want to be alone?

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  37. 176
    blub says:

    At some point in the early years of Jim’ll Fixit did the BBC suddenly hire a lot of chaperones for the show?

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