October 5th, 2012

Suspended Transport Civil Servant Kicks Back

It’s all kicking off tonight over at Transport as the suspended civil servant Kate Mingay, the Director of Commercial and Technical Services, has gone very rogue and is denying everything:

“While it has been widely reported in the context of the award of the franchise for the West Coast Mainline that I have been suspended, my role has been inaccurately portrayed mainly due to statements and other comment made by the Department for Transport itself. I would like to make it clear that:

•  I did not have lead responsibility for this project;

•  Neither I nor any member of my team had any responsibility for the economic modelling for this project, or for any Department for Transport project;

•  Nor did I have any responsibility for the financial modelling in respect of this project;

I have not been involved in briefing Department for Transport ministers or other government ministers in respect of this project.

I will of course cooperate fully with all ongoing and future investigatory processes in relation to this matter, but wanted to correct the completely inaccurate portrayal of my role immediately.”

If she didn’t lead on the project who did, and why were they not suspended?


270 Comments

  1. 1
    taC eht abbaJ says:

    Lamp post beckons Katie dear…

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    • 5
      ToonBob... says:

      Admit nothing, deny everything and blame the other person……… something we can all abide by as we take the rocky road through life :)

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      • 11
        UKIP.i.am.awake says:

        Public sector normality. Take no responsibility for anything, admit nothing, pass the buck.

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      • 62
        nellnewman says:

        Admit nothing, deny everything -that sounds very like beeb in jimmyscandal , fre ddie sta rr taking a very similar line along with m rgad d who says he’s knows nothing too!!

        I suspect the truth will out!!

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        • 69
          Dr Nuts says:

          Savile was Gay?

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          • Elsie Beattie (87 and a quarter) says:

            Young Mr. Savile was as jolly as they come, dear. He helped to put my hip out and then very kindly assisted in popping it back in.

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          • anonymous says:

            WTF year did that happen, Elsie?

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          • nellnewman says:

            Well maybe bi. A man , who was 14 when he met sav ile has come forward to say he was abused. To date about 50 folks have come forward to say they were abused by this monster when they were children. The nukber is growing daily.

            And now of course there are allegations that a certain fre ddie st arr and gar y glit ter were also part of sav ile’s party

            I suspect the number will top a hundred.

            And the biased beeb will still keep saying they are squeaky clean which they clearly are not!!

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          • Elsie Beattie (87 and a quarter) says:

            Oh, I remember it well, dear. It was the day Mr. Chamberlain waved his hanky in the the air and proceeded to declared peace on Germany.

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          • Knobsworth says:

            I bet you were a goer in your time…

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          • Roderic Llançol i de Borja says:

            In my time I liked young women, many of them, they used to kiss the ring on my finger and call me Papa, I had one favourite and had 4 children by her, but there were others, it looks as if things had not changed in the 20th Centuary there were many of the lower orders doing what I used to do.

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          • Closet Queen says:

            You cannot begin to understand our sense of disappointment upon hearing these vile allegations against Sir Jimmy, because we always thought so dear!

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        • 92
          Oberfeldwebel Johannes Schultz, Stalag XIII says:

          “Admit nothing, deny everything…”

          Always worked for me.

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          • Father O'Reilly says:

            Be jesus, I wished he were still alive.

            I could hear his confession about fiddling with the wee kiddies – and knock one out at the same time . . .

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        • 128
          Expat Geordie says:

          An ex-girlfriend had the misfortune of encountering Mr St@r r and his entourage in a Bournemouth club in the early/mid 80’s. (I believe Glíttér was doing his New Years Eve Glíttérbáll Parties in Bournemouth at about the same time).

          Anyway, Mr St@r r was apparently extremely obnoxious, foul mouthed and expected young women (girls?) to just fall at his feet and jump straight into bed with him. My ex, and her mate, advised him where to go in no uncertain and very Anglo Saxon terms, and according to her he was quite put out and got rather aggressive.

          It’s the same with any “special” group, páédós, muzzies, etc. If you treat them as special and give in to them all the time, they expect everyone to treat them asspecial and give in to them all the time.

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        • 220
          Tell him not to eat me says:

          Eek! I’m a 12-year-old hamster and I don’t taste nice.

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      • 111
        Anonymous says:

        I believe her, after accusations fabricated against me. Accusations that were actually impossible. Simply corrupt. Most will say what is expected of them, in return for a salary.

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    • 136
      whippersnapper2 says:

      Was that Kate minge or Kate whinge we are talking about here? I think we should be told.

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    • 161
      Captn P says:

      How can you be the head of “Commercial and Technical Services” and deny that you had any responsibility for financial modelling on a bid?

      She has probably been on the sick for the last year.

      Fcking useless the lot of them.

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      • 235
        Mind the Gap now says:

        I suspect that the whole shebang was “outsourced” to a bunch of crony/phony “Consultants” who had not the faintest idea how to run a railroad.

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      • 258
        Ivor the Engine says:

        Did anybody have responsiblity for the contract? I one thing these ‘civil servants’ seem to be very good at, is doing nothing while appearing to do something and then dodging from under the fan when the proverbial starts to fly. Truely teflon people.

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  2. 2
    les says:

    So why was she suspended?

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    • 4
      Nothing better to do says:

      Cover up?

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      • 104
        Corrie L'Anus says:

        Suits Mad ‘I shall destroy the Civil Service’ Frankie’s master plan…civil servants are useless…’Au Revoir Les mandarins’ (no slant on the Chinese intended!!)…alas, probably some of those that have been axed may have spotted the errors???

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      • 139
        whippersnapper2 says:

        Covering up what ? Her minge?

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    • 36
      Dr Nuts says:

      Scape Goat….

      As mentioned before – when it comes to Ministerial responsibility… the buck stops at the desk, in a pickle jar!

      Ed Balls asked the Question – What does it take to get sacked by the Conservatives.
      Probably as much as it does to get sacked by Labour!

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      • 39
        UKIP.i.am.awake says:

        Indeed it is Labour who we have to thank for nobody getting sacked for anything short of cold-blooded murder, and even then Tony Blair got away with it.

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        • 49
          IF there was any justice says:

          B£iar the Liar
          Brown the Buffon
          Hamzah the Hick
          Mandleson the MaLodourous
          Big Al
          PrezzClot the Clown
          Camertwat and CloggedUp
          Grocer Heath
          the YooYun Bosses
          Rumpy-Pumpy
          Barosooso
          etc

          would all be / have been – strung up

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        • 50
          Dr Nuts says:

          Yes, but to be only 2m people marched against the Iraq war, it’s not like it was a Poll Tax moment!

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Dr Nuts – all Prime Mentalists have been lying to and decieving the public for decades. It is not a matter of one Party being more honest than another party – they’ve ‘all’ been having a right old good laugh at the public.

            BTW – I corrected your wrong, wrong – sp mistake on a blog of yesterday you were in fact correct the first time you posted the word ‘your’ against your self correction to You’re. Ho Hum. WTF would I know eh?

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            Thanks.

            Rest assured, I am well aware of what I don’t know – and spend exhaustive hours trying to make up the deficiency. Sadly that only proves I know even less.

            Ignorance is bliss – guess that explains most Politicians.

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          • Expat Geordie says:

            Which means that 58 million people DIDN’T march against the Iraq war. And if I remember rightly there were a lot of Socialist Shirker placards at those demonstrations. A lot of people, rightly, take the view that if “Socialist Workers” support something then it must be something that they should be against.

            I supported the war, not because of the dodgy dossier or 45 minute warnings, but because it was the right thing to do. I still support the war. What absolutely appalls me is that the superb military victory achieved in 2003 could be thrown away so quickly by a lack of planning on the American part (“we don’t do nation building” – so WTF are you doing there?) and a lack of resources on the British part (thanks Gordon the Moron). Blair refusing to sack Brown cost British soldiers their lives!

            We, the western powers, won in Iraq in the medium term, recruiting our own Iraqi militia and destroying Al-Queda via British and US special forces. However the unwillingness of ANY US administration, and British Labour governments to conduct long term military operations, means that in the long term those victories achieved will be reversed.

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          • For words with an “e” sound:

            i before e except after c with these exceptions:

            codeine, plebeian, heinous, prescient, seize, sheik, weir, weird

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          • soapy says:

            The usual example is “ceiling”.

            … and the usual rejoinder is “science”.

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          • I am most grateful to you, soapy. Ceiling is certainly another exception but science does not need to be as it does not have the “e” sound.

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            SC – let he who is without grammatical sin – cast the first stone. It was the content – stoopid – not a minor faux pas in the spelling – but thanks for the lesson in diversity. Sancitimonous old git.

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        • 270
          The inexplicable jimmykins says:

          you can get away with anything if you’re a mate of tony’s

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      • 67
        DDC says:

        “What does it take to get sacked by the Conservatives.” Er, a general election Ed – you forgotten already?

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        • 94
          Dr Nuts says:

          Just a slight hitch – the election rigging didn’t go to plan!

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          • Blowing Whistles says:

            Try loo king at the police commissioner elections in the UK. Here’s a theory – The Dirty PTB have their ‘compromised’, ‘entrapped’ and ‘blackmailed’ – puppets in place to be elected.

            We the public need to be very wary of the Electoral Commission and in particular “its Officers” – because postal vote rigging is rife in the UK and has been for at least the past 15 years.

            Too many people own too many second homes in certain areas of the UK – are their votes being doubled up here and there?

            Labour twats go to Venezuela to be “independent monitors” – do me a ‘fing favour.

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          • Dr Nuts says:

            As I expressed earlier today.
            Lab MPs are going to Venezuela to learn the mistakes of Birmingham 2005 and roll-out nationally.

            They got caught, then lost power, that cannot be allowed to continue as a trend!

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          • Expat Geordie says:

            Students having a vote at home and at university/college is worth having a look at as well. I remember one lefty at my poly getting drunk and telling me that he voted at home, at poly, and at his granny’s.

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      • 188
        Anonymous says:

        Why are we still having to put up with the likes of Milliband, Balls, Yvette, Hattie etc ? its a disgrace that they are still being inflicted on us after the debacle that was the last Labour Government,and Balls has the nerve to say what does it take for a Conservative to be sacked!

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      • 260
        Freddie Fraudster says:

        Bit rich comment from Ed. Is there was any justice he’d have walked the plank years ago for his role in wrecking the whole economy not just a poxy bid

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    • 44
      I hate Parliament so much it hurts says:

      The Devil is in the detail. Almost buried, but not quite:

      • I did not have lead responsibility for this project;

      • Neither I nor any member of my team had any responsibility for the economic modelling for this project, or for any Department for Transport project;

      • Nor did I have any responsibility for the financial modelling in respect of this project;

      Note the text I highlighted in bold is missing from her third bullet-point. I deduce, therefore, that one or more members of her team did have responsibility for the financial modelling in respect of the project. This is why her first bullet-point has the caveat ‘lead responsibility’.

      She claims not to have had any responsibility for the financial modelling, but clearly her team did. But she couldn’t be arsed to check what they’d done.

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      Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Overze/alous M0d/b*t says:

      The Devil is in the detail. Almost bu*ried, but not quite:

      “- I did not have lead responsibility for this project;

      – Neither I nor any member of my team had any responsibility for the econ/omic modelling for this project, or for any Depa*rtment for Transport project;

      – Nor did I have any responsibility for the fin/ancial modelling in respect of this project;”

      Note the text I highlighted in bold is missing from her third bu*llet-point. I deduce, therefore, that one or more members of her team did have responsibility for the finan/cial modelling in respect of the project. This is why her first bu*llet-point has the caveat ‘lead responsibility’.

      She claims not to have had any responsibility for the fina/ncial modelling, but clearly her team did. But she couldn’t be ar*sed to check what they’d done.

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      • 102
        Dr Nuts says:

        Or…
        The financial modelling was supplied by the bidder, and they didn’t bother to check what the model was and just looked at the Bid Summary.
        The truth is inferred:
        – She had responsibility for checking the supplied submissions; she isn’t responsible for providing them!

        – She and her team members were responsible for checking the economic modelling used to determine the validity of the submitted tender; not for establishing any economic model

        – Likewise responsible for checking validity of the financial model; not establishing a financial model.

        Her words as suggested are to deny that she abrogated responsibilty for the things she wasn’t responsible for, just doesn’t mention what she is supposed to do!

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        • 211
          Baldy says:

          Yes. If she had simply stated there was no fault in her work then that would be a clear position. Tiptoe statements imply that there is some concealment of the true position.

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    • 212
      Not me guv says:

      OK, if she’s not responsible then what is the purpose of a Director of Commercial and Technical Services? Overpaid and needless Pilgrim if this was not part of the job.

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    • 234
      Ivan Agenda says:

      Could she be a Labour placewoman fiddling the figures?

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  3. 3
    The religion of violence says:

    It’s already started. Violence broke out outside the court when muslims fought with police after hearing Hamza is to be extradited. Most disgracefully, there were some english converts in the rabble, and there were white english men and women on the pavement holding placards and voicing their support for Hamza and Babar Ahmed.

    WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY? Why are we allowing these fucking people to live here?! They’re enemies in our midst, they’re anti-democratic and utterly backward. They don’t belong here. When are we going to get a government that will abolish the human rights act, remove us from the ECHR and finally deport all these disgusting fuckwits. I want my country back. And as for the english supporters who were outside the court with the muslims, all I can say is the loony left has never been more loony, but more seriously, their support amounts to treason. Put those fuckers on the flight with their buddy Hamza.

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  4. 6
    An unexplained death says:

    Meanwhile, the unexplained death of a 23 year old model at the hotel where Labour delegates were staying has quietly been brushed under the carpet after police closed the case within hours, declaring her death as not suspicious despite no investigation taking place. All sounds completely above board.

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    • 12
      The Guilty Delegate says:

      Well she was only a woman, and a foreigner, and a prossie, so a person of no import and quite disposable.

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      • 53
        Mr N Griffiths says:

        A prozzie eh , is she available for rememberence Sunday ?

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      • 76
        Dr Nuts says:

        quite disposable
        Yep, 100ft should do it!

        Statement to the Police:
        I’m labour, I didn’t see anything and there’s nothing to investigate.

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      • 202
        Expat Geordie says:

        According to social services up there being a prozzie is a lifestyle choice. Although aged 23 I would have thought that she was a bit old for that.

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        • 228
          HenryV says:

          That is ageist.

          Lefty political elites do well out of Eastern Europe. Au pairs, plumbers, builders, and whores all at cut prices. Bulk discount if bought (in) in groups of 500,000 or more.

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    • 51
      So Glad says:

      - you mentioned that – have been wondering. Any connection to the fat-arsed fart-mouth?

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      • 86
        Tom Watson MP says:

        Oi! If there’s any rumour-mongering to be done, I’ll be the one doing it!
        (Yeah, OK, I admit, it’s me you’re talking about, innit.)

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    • 140
      Dianne (west indian mothers love their children) Fatwat says:

      Move along now. Nothing to see here.

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  5. 7
    Justine Greening says:

    This goes right to the top.

    Why do you think that Dave re-shuffled me,for crying out loud !!

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  6. 8
    Anonymous says:

    Then what the hell was she doing? From her LinkedIn – “Corporate Finance Director at Department for Transport”.

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  7. 9
    annette curton says:

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  8. 13
    Spinal damage@BBC.co.uk says:

    No one takes responsibility!

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    • 30
      Sir William Waad says:

      You must realise that no civil servant is ever responsible for anything. There is a Process. It is an end in itself. The Process is not there to achieve anything. It is ineffable.

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      • 121

        It is so ineffable that they don’t bother effing it any more…

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        • 158
          Dr Nuts says:

          Indeed,
          I have not been involved in briefing Department for Transport ministers or other government ministers in respect of this project.

          The scape goat argument stands –
          either – the Goverment is not in control whatsoever, with a civil service operating without any supervision.
          – the reporting Civil Servant isn’t taking the blame based on personal incompetence, s/he only reported what was told to her/him without understanding what s/he was reporting. The buck was passed down the line to most competent member of the Civil Service who instead of being promoted, to replace the most senior proven incompetent, got the blame.

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  9. 14
    Nan Taylor says:

    She doesn’t seem to do fuck all. Why the fuck do we need her?

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    • 229
      HenryV says:

      Because if she didn’t not do the job we would have to pay a man not to do the job.

      We need to have equality in the workplace and share the non-blame equally. Of course being an oppressed women she will be blamed less than equally and probably get a more than equal pay off.

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  10. 16
    Happy Anon says:

    SKY NEWS have just reported they believe Abu Whats his name & the rest of

    them are on there way to the Airport in a convoy !!!!!!

    Looks like they will soon be in paradise in USA !!!!! LOL LOL

    Now when does that nasty Party Conference start ….sorry for being a old cynic

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  11. 17
    Rightallalong says:

    Maybe she just got the sums wrong. I mean Maths is very hard.

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    • 48
      Dr Nuts says:

      Ask Ed Balls – as the future Chancellor he found GCSE simple fractions subtraction difficult!
      Admitting to Parliament he couldn’t do it!

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      • 96
        The Paragnostic says:

        Subtracting fractions is part of the GCSE now, is it?

        Fuck me.

        We did that in primary school.

        O tempora, O morons…

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        • 124

          O tempora, O mores – Oh Times, Oh Morgan!

          With a nod to Flanders and Swann.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            My favourite bit of Flanders’ introductions goes something like:

            “Our local council is strictly non-political – they’re all Conservatives”

            It’s well worth digging out the old LPs and playing them on the gramophone, especially if you fit a new needle ;-)

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        • 238
          Methusalah says:

          Para – so did we. You must be as old as me then!

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    • 72
      Jack Straw Poll tax dodger says:

      Arithmetic isnt my strong point either.

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      • 116
        Postman Prat says:

        Nor mine.

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      • 151
        Blowing Whistles says:

        And wearing red braces at a labour lawyers’ fringe meeting ain’t exactly a strong point either you scumbag, duplicitous, legalese practising low-life [Ref to Buff Hoon] 5hite now pretending to have been suffering from depression!

        Oh didn’t you also cover up moves and lawful attempts to out the freemasons throughout the upper echelons of High (as kites) society?

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  12. 18
    Abu Hamza says:

    But what if I drop the soap?!

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  13. 20
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    A Labour stooge trying to bullshit her way out of it.

    The civil service was so heavily politicised by Labour that lots of these turds have been and will continue to surface.
    Given a job because of a Labour membership card and not because of competence. Either that or willful political mischief making now that their chums have been kicked out of office.

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  14. 21
    Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Aparently 2500 people at the Bbbc are not paying tax on PYAE!

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    • 28
      Moderation Robot says:

      Do try to stay on-topic. Ta.

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      • 64
        Dr Nuts says:

        On an unrelated note, how come the BBC had already managed to lose a significant amount of Top of the Pops archived material, mostly during J. Saviles reign as host?

        Was there anything there that could’ve incriminated?

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        • 80
          Evenin', Pop-Pluckers says:

          Good point, well made.
          Unfortunately, they still seem to have the whole 1977 archive intact. Was Jimmy on a hiatus that year?

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        • 157
          Blowing Whistles says:

          Some material could in fact possibly maybe be found at the CPS offices in South Wales – where ‘missing files’ were found Re: the Lynette White Murder cover up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! leading to the highly dubious ‘collapse’ of the recent trial of eith ex coppers at Swansea.

          P.S. – I hope plod have searched every Lodge in the vicinity of April Jones’ hometown.

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        • 262
          Who'd ever want to see last week's charts? says:

          Hard to imagine now, but data storage of any kind used to be a technological marvel.

          If the Apollo spacecraft flew to the moon with less memory than a Pound Shop calculator, could you imagine not rotating which video tape was used for each week’s Top of the Pops on a monthly cycle?

          What’s astonishing is that any of them survived/got sneaked out of the gate by VT engineers at all

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    • 84
      cynic says:

      As communists why should they> they are just into wealth redistribution like Mr Millipede

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  15. 24
    Hamza la vista! says:

    Bye bye, camel piss breath!

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  16. 25
    Trinny says:

    How much are we paying her to not have responsibility for anything?

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  17. 26
    Hamza la vista! says:

    Whilst I despise ràcism, I do hope Hamza is put in a cell with a violent white supremacist who hates arabs and has a penchant for sodomy.

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  18. 29
    Jimmy says:

    “If she didn’t lead on the project who did, and why were they not suspended?”

    They decided to send her to Northern Ireland instead.

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  19. 31
    Andy Coulson's monkey says:

    Hey we’ll done Wiki Guido. This is the first useful post you’ve ever made. It’s so unlike your contrived rubbish.

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  20. 33
    Transport Trunk says:

    According to http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/person?personId=1455219152&targetid=profile she was a former Corporate Finance Director so she should have known how to count..

    Also, she moderated a panel at “IPFA London: Update on the UK National Infrastructure Plan 2″ in January in her latest position so would love to know how competent she was considered during that!

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    • 138
      Corrie L'Anus says:

      So she has come from the Private Sector as a ‘high-flyer’ then??? Hence, her defending her role/behaviour so publicly…and unlike the oft timorous civil servants…I am beginning to think that Public Sector/Private Sector debate is at an end…we are just shite at most stuff…that bloke from Locog excepted and Hague’s old judo catomite of course!!

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  21. 43
    Yvonne from the Colliers Arms Clydach says:

    It sounds to me as if the taxpayer is being told porkies .

    Every Transport document should be up on the internet for all to see first thing tomorrow morning under orders from the Prime Minister and Deputy prime Minister .

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  22. 45
    Sir William Waad says:

    Not being as rich as Ed Miliband, I can’t afford to travel on the West Coast line anyway, so it affects me only in my role as a mug punter, i.e. taxpayer, but the idea of civil servants negotiating multi-zillion rail contracts does put me in mind of giving a five-year-old some petrol and a box of matches to play with.

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    • 57
      Engineer says:

      Long experience would suggest that Civil Servants, whilst they may be very able civil administrators, rarely have the outlook or qualities to make good managers of complex enterprises. One failing they have is the strange belief that those with experience of managing the enterprises in question should under no circumstances be consulted when decisions about those enterprises are being made. Example – during the rail privatisation of the ’90s, the civil service consulted everybody except railwaymen; the result was the unholy mess we still suffer from.

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      • 71
        Corrie L'Anus says:

        ‘One failing they have is the strange belief that those with experience of managing the enterprises in question should under no circumstances be consulted when decisions about those enterprises are being made’ fine comment ‘Injin Ear’…one suspects that Cameron and his coterie of cohorts are so crap in Government…’Farrago’…in so many ways!!

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        • 119
          Osama the Nazarene says:

          Ffs they were trying to predict inflation and passenger numbers in 15 to 20 year’s time. They don’t need Oxbridge trained bureaucrats but need the likes of Mystic Meg.

          Any predictions so far in advance are bound to be finger in the air stuff.

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        • 132
          Engineer says:

          @ Corrie L’Anus – the comment was made about civil servants (meddling with things they do not understand, and not consulting people who do understand). The nation’s energy policy is another topical example.

          Politicians of all stripe may also be incompetent, but they are not under discussion this time.

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      • 77
        Well it's a thought says:

        One day PFI will hit the headlines, this Virgin contract will look as if some uncivil servants just made a slight mistake, the unwinding of PFI should be mass sackings of uncivil servants especially when people find they don’t own the land and the hospitals they thought they paid for and will pay again for the privilege .

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      • 174
        Captn P says:

        My personal experience when I did some work on a large NHS project was quite simple.

        All of them were utterly useless from the top down. This very mistaken idea that these people are professional is very mistaken indeed.

        The head of the Department was a disguised employee tax dodger and the rot just spread from there. For every management position there was Group Director, Deputy Group Director, Director and Deputy Director. Between the four of them they couldn’t find their way out of a paper bag.

        The solution, Hire an Accenture consultant on 5K a day to produce documents and load the department with seat warmers. So the NHS was paying this guy 1.1M a year, but amazingly he was bringing home 5M a year in bonuses and share options. Wonder were he made up the difference?

        The Civil service needs a complete over hall, but I’m sure that won’t happen any time soon.

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  23. 46
    Engineer says:

    Politics within the Civil Service is far more vicious than among politicians. Someone is settling a score.

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    • 68
      nellnewman says:

      +100

      And you can bet your bottom dollar this all goes back to the rotten core of the civil service established during labour’s 13 years.

      Time for a massive overhaul!!

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      • 90
        I hate Parliament so much it hurts says:

        Cameron should have been planning that massive overhaul since 2005 and implementing it in May 2010. Everybody knew Labour were stuffing the Civil Service with incompetents. But nooooo. Dave decided to sit with his thumb up his arse hugging hoodies and huskies for 7 years and now it’s blown-up in his stupid face. Along with pretty much everything else he has or hasn’t done.

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      • 96
        Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Overze/alous M0d/b*t says:

        Cameron should have started planning that massive overhaul in 2005 and implemented it in May 2010. Everybody knew Labour were stuffing the Civil Service with incompetents. But nooooo. Dave decided to sit with his thumb up his a*rse and hug hoodies and huskies for 7 years and now it’s blown-up in his stupid face. Along with pretty much everything else he has or hasn’t done.

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        • 101
          nellnewman says:

          Well he’s at a crossroads now – so he can either do something about it before next election or just keep swanning it- if he does that he’ll lose!!

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          • albacore says:

            A crossroads? Ain’t that where you bury the undead?
            Sounds the ideal spot for Cameron and Red Ed
            Mind you, though, I suppose, for accuracy’s sake
            They’d be better classified as hardly awake

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          • Mind the Gap says:

            Alby, we already have enough Sleepers within the Common Purpose infested Civil Service

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        • 263
          The Golem says:

          I still believe Cameron and his cronies are working as caretakers. Considerable
          effort continues to be put into ensuring a lack of a Conservative majority at the next general election – if we’re allowed to have one.

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  24. 56
    cynic says:

    For this level of shambles why isn’t a Perm Sec’s Head on a Pike in Whitehall. Perhaps because the last Per Sec now runs HMRC (Gawd help us) and the post seems to be vacant

    Oh yes.In any case Per Secs only do policy and this is operations. Its all the plebs faults

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    • 63
      cynic says:

      I tell a lie!!!! Hes been there since march

      Philip Rutnam was previously Director General, Business and Skills at BIS, appointed in December 2010. Prior to this he had been Director General, Business, since March 2009. Philip was previously a Board Member at Ofcom where he helped to set up the organisation and to lead its work on competition, economic regulation and use of the radio spectrum. Philip is a former senior Treasury official, and his career has also included working in corporate finance at Morgan Stanley in Hong Kong, and holding responsibility for the Treasury’s interest in business and enterprise.

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  25. 58
    Corrie L'Anus says:

    I would be very surprised if Ms Mingay or her colleagues did any modelling (i know not if she is a ‘minger’ but not that type of modelling!!) this is normally done by highly paid mercenaries from our illustrious consultancy sector…but they will take their hard earned dosh and turn up somewhere else and bluff the bureaucrats. Still baffled as to how this got past the scrutiny community and the Treasury…too easy to pick off a sacrificial civil servant….’twill end in tears….as ‘Came on Ron’ slithers to his inevitable demise

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  26. 60
    Jim'll fiddle it says:

    How old is Mingay?

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  27. 73
    Strictly come pervin' says:

    So what exactly does she do then? Responsible for making the tea?

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  28. 83
    Only a matter of time says:

    Hi, I’m Kay Burley and I’m reporting live from a stabbing in Hackney. So tell me, how are you feeling? Are these stab wounds quite painful? And sir, what about you? Can you tell us why you’re stabbing this man?

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    • 165
      Labourunionsbbc we are one says:

      How the Bbbc would do the same ‘piece’.

      Madam are you feeling the pain of the Tory cut’s and Osborn’s mishandling of the deficit, along with that stab wound? (cut-away to picture of Cameron dinking Champagne, then back to close up of woman’s face in agony) and you sir are you angry at the Tories selling off the NHS and cutting public services, and find your only way to show your anger at this Tory led government is to stab this woman? (cut away to picture of M Thatcher).

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  29. 87
    The "ya get me blud" brigade says:

    Credit to the bbc, they’re showing a realistic portrayal of an inner city blk teenage girl on eastenders: violent, illiterate, rude and skanky.

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  30. 95
    Traitors in our midst says:

    The footage outside the court showed English supporters of Hamza holding up placards and some of them using megaphones to declare their support for him. These disgusting c-unts should be deported for treason.

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    • 181
      Expat Geordie says:

      “We’ll be hanging up the traitors on the Siegfried line
      We’ll be hanging up the traitors Mother, dear…”

      Oh, I do wish.

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    • 226
      Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

      I don’t think any English person would ever support that racist thug.

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  31. 99
    Insider says:

    Sorry this is off topic but this SCOTTISH PARLIAMENT PETITION could be the

    end of the smoking ban.

    THIS IS THE PRESS RELEASE

    http://www.prlog.org/11990729-new-air-cleaning-technology-could-allow-indoor-smoking-says-campaign-group.html

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  32. 100
    Captain Hook and the Temple of Kaboom says:

    Hamza’s lawyer said his client has a degenerative mental condition. Well, he’s right. It’s called being muslim.

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  33. 103
    Airport Announcer says:

    Bing-bong

    ConAir are pleased to announce the departure of Flight 69 from RAF Mildenhall to Guantanamo Bay.

    Passengers joining this flight should now make their way to Gate 8 where the aircraft is waiting to depart.

    Please have your boarding passes ready, together the handcuffs that you were supplied with at check-in.

    We hope that you enjoy your flight

    Bing-bong

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    • 115
      If only.. says:

      Bing bong. On behalf of myself and the other flight crew, I would like to welcome you aboard Flight 69 from RAF Mildenhall to Guantanamo Bay. We are now at our cruising altitude of 30,000 feet, and we are halfway across the Atlantic.

      When I say “we”, I actually mean “you”, because I and the rest of the crew are controlling this plane remotely, from Texas. We will now be putting the plane into a steep and irreversible dive into the sea.

      We hope you enjoy your descent.

      PS: there are no controls in the cockpit.

      PPS: your friends and families are in the luggage hold.

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      • 227
        Norman Stanley Fletcher says:

        Maybe the last thing Hamza ever does will be to play air guitar to Sweet Home Alabama (oh sweet home, baby). It’s a nice thought.

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  34. 107
    The Paragnostic says:

    The real Dr Hook:

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    • 109
      The Paragnostic says:

      Bollocks.

      Youtube embed code fucked, or maybe the Cotes du Rhone celebrating Hamza’s extradition is getting to my fingers.

      Just search for ‘freakers ball’.

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  35. 113
    Abu Hamburger a few days from now says:

    My botty hurts!

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  36. 117

    OMFG!

    OMFG!

    OMFG!

    Has anyone Google imaged Kate Mingay here yet? I have.

    OMFG!

    I do not recommend it to anyone. I would not touch it with Abu Hamza’s on the end of a long hook.

    OMFG!

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    • 123
      Lard Pressclott - Laughing Policeman in waiting says:

      Mingay the minger ……Dept of Transport…I didn’t, did I ???

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    • 143
      Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Looney M0d/b*t says:

      I you turn “safe search” off, and scroll down a couple of rows, there’s a nice monochromatic photograph of a delightful young lady in her under*wear.

      I just thought I’d mention it.

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      • 175

        No such luck!

        I ended up with a picture of Nick Buckles…

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        • 184
          Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Looney M0d/b*t says:

          Are you sure? I’ve just rechecked, and it’s Kate Moss. And not only that, but the pictures that follow are crammed full of totty.

          (if you’re using quotation marks around “Kate Mingay”, remove them..)

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      • 192
        Tachybaptus says:

        What on earth is Sherlock Holmes doing with ‘safe search’ switched on in the first place? Solving crimes against politeness?

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  37. 122
    Dianne (west indian mothers love their children) Fatwat says:

    Katy Minge Jobsworth.

    Now and try a POSITIVE account, so defensive!

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  38. 127
    The BBC are cunts says:

    Nothing to see here, move along…………..

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    • 221
      BBC - you must pay us to watch other TV channels says:

      We are appalled at the allegations – we’re the BBC so just shut up, we decide what’s news.

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  39. 129
    No skin off my nose says:

    One of the drawbacks of being German :

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/05/germany-introduce-circumcison-law

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  40. 130
    This the Age of Consent says:

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  41. 133
    Just Noticed says:

    Talking of mingers, I notice that Mrs Balls – Cooper, who was giving it large on Hamza and was all over the BBC a few months back, is very quiet this evening.

    She was shooting her mouth off at Teresa May’s inability to extradite Hamza, but May has managed something that Cooper and her mates never did.

    Care to reflect on your hysterical statements, Mrs Balls?

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  42. 141
    nellnewman says:

    So what is cameron going to do about the corrupt paedophiliac beeb?

    What more evidence does he need that this leftwing biased state broadcaster is just so completely disenfranchised by savile & pals crimes???!!!

    Time to sell best bits of beeb off and get rid of state broadcasting. It is an abomination in a proper democracy!

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  43. 145
    nellnewman says:

    So what is cameron going to do about the corrupt p ae dop hilia c beeb?

    What more evidence does he need that this leftwing biased state broadcaster is just so completely disenfranchised by sa vile & pa ls cri mes???!!!

    Time to sell best bits of beeb off and get rid of state broadcasting. It is an ab omi nation in a proper dem o crac ry!

    Reply

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    • 155
      Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Overze/alous M0d/b*t says:

      The “best bits of the BBC”.. that, Sir, will be a three-pipe problem but when I solve it, I’ll buy it!

      If you’ve got change for a twenty-pound note.

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      • 190
        Expat Geordie says:

        That’s got to be Top Gear (very capitalist, it’s the only part of the BBC that make a profit) and Lucy Worsley.

        Yes, I know that she is, or was, a self confessed marzist, but come on, you would, wouldn’t you?

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        • 206
          Expat Geordie says:

          Marzist? Marxist for crying out loud. Perhaps I should try typing this in Word first so that I can spell check it.

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    • 160
      Save nells k y boa d says:

      do yo u ha ve an y ke y bords for sal e nell?

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    • 162
      Aunty Matter says:

      Problem is kiddie fiddling is common in the political classes, the media and the police. So nothing will happen. That’s how Savile and others got away with it.

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      • 172
        Mike Handycock says:

        The biggest problem with kiddy-fiddling, from the perspective of the political class, is finding enough kiddies to fiddle.

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  44. 153
    Aunty Matter says:

    I’ve just been watching the Thick of it. I read this and I think I’m still watching it.

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  45. 163
    Southern Softy says:

    Sorry – bit of a diverson. Did you hear “The News Quiz” tonight. Panel packed with BBC lefty scum – Jeremy Fucking Hardy etc. Just paid my licence which piises me off. Thank Christ for Sky.

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  46. 164
    David B says:

    Sound like a typical civil service project – no one is responsible for anything

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  47. 168
    nellnewman says:

    OK so jimmy and his 2 pals and islington council and margarethodge and the beeb are going to get off scot free are they?

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  48. 171
  49. 183
    nellnewman says:

    OK so the 3 men implicated in jimmy’s child abuse rampage are jimmy, fre dd y st ar r and gl itt er.

    The police Are investigating aren’t they?!!

    And the Police are looking at the beeb’s role as Pimps in all of this ??!!

    And Leveson is going to incorporate this scandal into his remit isn’t he??!

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    • 194
      Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Looney M0d/b*t says:

      It’s indubitably rife within the organisation. Consider Bagpuss. Did you never wonder why he was always so tired? No doubt as a result of multiple liaisons with that poor girl, Emily. Doubtless her cries were masked by the sound of the mice on the mouse-organ shouting “heave! heave!”. Shouting their words of encouragement to Bagpuss!

      Case closed, I’m off for a beer.

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      • 210
        Expat Geordie says:

        You think that you are joking. As a kid Bagpuss used to scare the crap out of me. Even now I think that it is rather dark.

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  50. 189
    Anonymous says:

    So did she have ANY responsibility for anything? She was on a £135K salary so I assume she did more than make the tea.

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    • 195
      With great power comes great bank balances says:

      She takes full responsibility for spending that money but thats as far as it goes.

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    • 198
      Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Bat-Faced Nonjobber says:

      I incorrectly deduced that she was responsible for brightening up the office as a piece of eye-candy, flashing her hooters around and generally making her boss’s life that much more pleasant. BUT, as my dear friend Schroedinger’s Cat points out, far above in this thread, Ms Mingay is, how shall I put it, not exactly a looker.

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    • 209
      R.U.Shaw says:

      We had to pay her so much money to ensure that she wasn’t poached by the private sector……

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  51. 196
    Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

    This is a very brave lady. The last civil servant to stand up to the politicians ended up having his wrist cut in a remote field…….

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    • 201
      Sherlock Holmes and the Case of the Amateurishly-faked Suicide says:

      Pah! If his wrist was cut, why was there no blood?

      Like

      • 205
        Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

        I think the correct question is “if he cut his own wrist why was there no blood?”.

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  52. 199
    Someone in the know says:

    If she is Director of Commercial then she probably heads the division which oversees the multitude of small to medium sized commercial contracts which the department has with suppliers. And her division is probably meant to be the “centre of excellence” for the procurement (i.e. CIPS) personnel in the department who oversee these contracts.
    But the WCML is a massive £9 billion lifecycle project and it would have been set up elsewhere in the department with a bespoke team. I expect that this team would have been led by consultants brought in from whoever the department’s favourite consultancy currently is. So it could be Accenture or PWC or Deloitte, and the team would have been augmented by specialists from the railway industry as well as other SMEs, e.g. legal, accountants, etc. As it was primarily a procurement project, with an ITT etc. its likely that all the “guilty” parties have already exited (the project was initiated in January 2011 so the main evaluation and bid phases probably completed by March 2012), at the end of the 2011/12 fiscal year.
    So I suspect that this lady and those in her division have been left holding the baby, i.e, the consequences of flawed processes scoped by the original project. And the consultants who originally failed to do all those basic things during the specification and evaluation phases of the project, such as validate parameters such as RPI etc. have walked away from the project scott-free.
    The civil service is not organised, and civil servants are not incentivised, either by pay or progression to handle large scale complex programmes of change. The civil service exists to administer existing bureaucratic processes set in stone. If central government wants to drive large scale change successfully then this should be done outside of departmental boundaries, and programme managers appointed to build their own teams with all the resources required to deliver to the agreed objective. And these projects should have budgets entirely separated from departmental budgets to prevent CS interference. If you want an example, look no further than the London Olympics.

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    • 247
      Mind the Gap says:

      Sorry mate, I’ve just got down this far in the thread, but several times above I have said that it was the crony Consultants who were to blame and not this lady who has been royally shafted by incompetent “others”. She should (figuratively speaking) sue the pants off those really responsible.

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  53. 200
    I don't need no doctor says:

    No one is ever responsible, it’s never anyone’s fault.
    No one gives a stuff.

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  54. 203
    Air Trafic Controller says:

    ConAir 69…Mildenhall Tower…

    Cleared to depart to GITMO, runway two-niner…turn left heading two-seven-zero…

    Cleared to Flight Level 300…once over the sea you may disembark your cargo…have a good flight….over.

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  55. 208
    Tristram Smallbore-ffipps says:

    This gets better. She is loaded (lives in £6m house) and is married to a top lawyer. The smell of huge and deeply embarrassing lawsuits pending is almost overwhelming. Only this bunch of tossers could attempt to fit up a scapegoat without first checking whether she has the ability to fight back.

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    • 215
      Incapable Vince says:

      A six million pound house ?! Bring on my Mansion Tax !!!

      Get me Ed Balls on the phone. Whoooooopppeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  56. 216
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Responsibilty diminishes the higher up one gets in an organisation, however monetary reward increases the higher up one gets.

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  57. 225
    CAROL VODAPHONE says:

    It’s pretty obvious that she is the fall guy to cover up for the minister/s involved
    rather like the Aid that took the fall for the Hunt Cameron Osborne Coulson Murdoch saga

    Gob shut , nice pay off , slip back in through the back door when the heat dies down

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  58. 250
    Moussa Koussa's pet meerkat says:

    None of this would have happened if we’d stuck with British Rail.

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  59. 251
    Jess The Dog says:

    She clearly has nothing to lose!

    Don’t be labelled a high-flyer: it ensure the guns are pointed skyward.

    I wonder if she was getting her salary through PAYE or as a payment to a company.

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  60. 252
    What a bunch of...average jobsworths says:

    So the Director of commercial and technical services has nothing whatsoever to do with commercial or technical activities: thats a new one. Maybe I have this wrong but procurement of technical services such as rail transport is a commercial activity. Of course this is the civil service, no one is actuallybdirectly resposnible for anything.

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  61. 253
    now then now then now then says:

    i only work ‘ere mate

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  62. 264
    now then now then now then says:

    is she over 16?

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  63. 266
    Any Mouse says:

    It sounds to me as if this Civil Servant is the traditional sacrificial lamb, while the high priced consultant who screwed it up, while taking serious amounts of taxpayer money, walks quietly out of the building. One of the main reasons I am glad to be out of the SCS.

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