September 27th, 2012

Cast Iron Cam’s Conference Cop Out

Surprise, surprise – Dave will not be using his party conference speech to tackle the issue of an EU referendum. Instead, Nick Robinson is being briefed that the PM will make a “major speech” on Europe before the EU leaders’ summit in December. Where have we heard that one before…

With cast iron Cam backtracking already, it has reached the stage that whatever he says won’t be enough. Today has seen more speculation about a Tory-UKIP pact. But now Cameron seems even further away from making a promise signed in blood…


  1. 1
    David Cameron says:

    Rule Britannia was written by The Smiths, wasn’t it?


    • 7
      Don't do it Nigel says:

      My advice to UKI is do not do a deal with Dave. He can not bew trusted.

      And as most Conservatives are sick of the sight and sound of this Socialist Europhile why help keep him in power?


    • 20
      Thick as a Planck says:

      Imagine if Dave had signed the Magna Carta


    • 66
      Roger Rusty Spear says:


    • 73
      old git says:

      Anyone with access to Conservative Central Office perhaps you would like to explain the following on the party’s behalf.
      If as Cameron now says you can suddenly claw back all these powers from the EU why has it taken two years to decide to do so, has not he himself conceded some, I believe around 60 were surrendered with the Lisbon Treaty
      Secondly if Cameron was serious about all this why did he call a three-line whip when the e-petition sparked a referendum debate in the HOC in order to prevent a referendum taking place?
      Thirdly If it were possible to renege on or renegotiate our agreement with EU Treaties why did CAST IRON Cameron not renegotiate Lisbon as in the CAST IRON GUARENTEE
      Cameron is a dyed in the wool Europhile and we all know it, however he also realizes that UKIP will certainly torpedo any chance he or his party has of re-election.
      Looking foreword to your reply
      I am pretty certain what will be announced at the party conference regarding a referendum it is not a gift from MISTIC MEG it is so obvious that a child could spot it.
      Cameron will almost certainly offer a referendum and it may well contain an in/out option. BUT don’t be fooled for he will not allow us to leave but will claim that he can use the result to threaten the EU unless it gives back powers to the UK. This he hopes will shoot UKIPs fox so to speak but he will not put any deadlines in this threat and will spend years on spurious negotiations whilst at the same time keeping us in under our present terms and conditions
      Cameron also knows that should he uphold the result for out from this fake referendum it would split the Tory Party in two.

      The EU conditions that we are now stuck with are set in stone, you know it and we all know it, any change WILL require the agreement of the other 26 members
      Cameron will NEVER support us leaving the EU and here is a video to prove it


  2. 2
    Sock My Wully says:

    What do Dave and Barry have in common?

    They are both one termers.


  3. 3
  4. 4
    David Cameron says:


  5. 5
    Jimmy says:

    Don’t worry, it’ll be in the manifesto.


  6. 8
    Engineer says:

    Is Dave hoping the EU collapses in a heap of debt before he has to make a decision?

    It’s blindingly obvious to everybody that the EUSSR is a busted flush, but the unelected bureaucrats will spin out it’s final demise for as long as they can. The current round of bailouts could go on for a decade, or until everyone in the Euro is completely mired in unpayable debt. That’s too late – Britain needs to be free of this dangerous farce as soon as possible, so that we can get on with repairing our own country’s finances.

    Stop messing about and succumb to Farage’s advances, Dave. You know you want to really.


  7. 9
    Anonymous says:

    At least he told the EU to fuck off when it came to the uk spending all its tax payers’ money to keep the euro afloat, that was refreshing.

    Personally, I don’t think we need a referendum on staying “in or out” of the EU, I think we simply need to kick-out any PM or potential-pm who isn’t willing to tell the EU to fuck off when it’s in our national interest to do so.

    We can stay “in” europe and still keep our national interests; it just needs a PM who’s got some balls and who isn’t a lying yellow cowardly fuckwitted communist bastard.

    We need a PM who, when “fined” by the EU, or when told “you must free this terrorist because he’s a bit unwell” by the EU, simply says this:

    “yeah? fuck you, we’re not doing that. what you going to do ’bout that? fine us? ok then, we’ll stop being a net-contributor to your EU coffers. how’d you like that?”

    Cameron’s better than brown/blair on that front, but still nowhere near having the kind of balls that’s really needed.

    I don’t want “out” of the EU, I just want a PM who’s willing to tell the EU to fuck off when it’s in our interests to do so.


    • 16
      Tax is theft says:

      Just cancel the direct debit to Europe and don’t answer the phone when they call.


    • 63
      Lucius Calidius Eroticus says:

      Do you want to be part of Barosso’s vision of Europe? That is where it is all leading and when Labour get in they will happily lead us all off the cliff with him. The only answer is to get free of it now.


    • 72
      Given up trying says:

      “At least he told the EU to fuck off when it came to the uk spending all its tax payers’ money to keep the euro afloat, that was refreshing.”

      No he didn’t, he just routed it via the IMF.


  8. 10
    I don't need no doctor says:

    What about Miliband appearing on Letterman. He could be questionned about his communist upbringing. That should do something for his popularity in the states, that is if anyone in the states knows who he is.


  9. 13
    Tax is theft says:

    If Cam won’t do a deal with UKIP then it’s time to get rid of Cam.


    • 24
      annette curton says:

      Nobody is going to do a deal with anybody until after the results of the next general election, so don’t believe any manifesto promises.


  10. 14
    Sick of the Greed and lies(still) says:

    I gave New Labour the benefit of the doubt when they got in and they totally fcuk’d the country up. I hoped and prayed for a Conservative Government again and I just don’t see much difference in the amount of lies and spin.


  11. 19
    John Bull says:

    David Cameron is an embarrassment. I am thoroughly ashamed that we have such a person as the Prime Minister of this country. He has no love for the place, its history or peoples.


  12. 23
    Thick as a Planck says:

    But you plebs just don’t seem to understand.
    It’s the Blair dynasty V the Cameron dynasty


  13. 27
    Grammar school boy says:

    How many people on here actually knew that Arne wrote the music for Rule Britannia? How many people on here had actually heard of Arne? I had, and I knew he wrote RB, but then I didn’t know the date of Magna Carta (although I did know what it means, sort of).

    I don’t think I found out about Arne at school or university. I suspect it was from watching the Last Night of the Proms.


    • 35
      I don't need no doctor says:

      Well it’s typical of our dumbed down scum media in this country. They have to highlight the one or two things he couldn’t answer. Fucking pathetic shysters our press.


    • 38
      genghiz the kahn says:

      Cammers must have been avoiding chapel attendance at Oxford.


    • 43
      mili..... says:

      Arne was great in the Terminator


    • 44
      annette curton says:

      Rule Britannia question was obscure, but not having a clue about what Magna Carta means in English despite going to Eton did worry me somewhat. Dreaming Spires.


    • 45
      Mike Hunt says:

      Once they said who it was I remembered it was Thomas Arne immediately but like DC was blowed if I could remember when the question was asked.

      Anyone who did Latin at school would either know or could work out what Magna Carta actually meant. Where and when is easy – quarter past 12 @ Runnymeade


    • 49

      Nor me neither , I’m afraid – but then Rule Britannia is not really my kind of music anyway, and the proms bores me – I like to indulge my classical taste alone or with Mrs. and the young master Attacks.

      Or better still, something a little more contemporary.

      And I too went through Grammar School et al. (Although not University – the forces were more attractive to me at the time)


    • 53
      Phyllis Stein says:

      Show of hands– who would have guessed George Frideric Handel?
      (Me, for one.)


  14. 31
    David Cameron (Leader of the Nasty Party) says:

    Listen here I have made a “major speech” in my political life and don’t intend to start now.

    John Major is comfortable, and has no need for me to refer to him in speeches.


  15. 32
    Thick as a Planck says:

    Off to Be and Queue to STOP THE ROT…in my garage door.


  16. 34
    Sophie says:

    Cast iron:


    1. A hard, brittle alloy of iron and carbon that can be readily cast in a mold and contains a higher proportion of carbon than steel does.

    2. Firm and unchangeable.

    Dropped by the Conservative Club last night.

    The contribution total to Nigels EU fine is doing very well indeed.

    Vote UKIP.


  17. 39
    UK RIP says:

    The UK died years ago. The left have destroyed it and it’s now no more than a countrywide muslim ghetto.


  18. 55
    Steve Lloyd. says:

    The European Court of Human Rights, appeared to reach its conclusion earlier this week when the European Court of Human Rights said it would no longer stand in the way of the extradition of the cleric and four other men.

    If the ECHR has the last word on these decisions, why has this now gone to the High court? Is it because Hooky wants his British passport back, or because the British authorities for whatever reason want him to remain here?

    The hearing is being held in open court, so will we possibly get to see the B’stard booted out. Bells should ring out across the country in celebration, if that’s the case. I for one will be opening a tin or two.


    • 57
    • 58
      LEGAL AID says:

      The true extent of Hamza’s milking of the legal aid system remains unclear – but a single solicitor earned almost £500,000 in fees just to act for the fanatic. Arani and Co received the sums between 2000 and last year.

      Official estimates suggest the cost of his trial for incitement to murder was at least £1million, when barrister and other fees were included. The notoriety achieved by Muddassar Arani from representing Hamza has made her the solicitor of choice for a string of terror suspects.

      The firm’s clients also include Dhiren Barot, who planned to use limousines for radioactive explosions, and Muktar Said Ibrahim and Yassin Omar, who took part in the failed July 21 bomb plot.

      Last year, it received almost £1million in legal aid. In one month alone, January this year, Miss Arani billed £356,048, and in December last year she charged £204,501.


  19. 62

    OK here is the deal.

    In terms of global influence and top jobs it is the UKs interest to stay in the EU. However as we have drummed into hearing “its Europes fault” people believe it. Which makes it difficult to have a fair referendum. But I do agree that we should be given one, for the EU will only flourish if it has the will of the people behind it. This is one of the biggets issues that needs to be faced up to by the EU.

    Now money. A thorny topic. Dave is quite capable of saying get your accounts signed off properly, eliminate grifting, realise that strength comes through diversity, if you want our money. And if the accounts tallied properly and there were less holes our contributions could fall.

    The trouble then is if you are up against criminal gangs pulling the strings of those who have let themselves be blackmailed for that beauty in the bar who turned out to be 15 etc, you have a bit of a problem on your hands.

    To me paying in more than we get out is not an issue, for not everything can be reduced to pounds. What does matter is that our money is spent wisely to enable and not to end up in some swiss bank account.

    Europes financial woes could be eliminated in a day simply by QEing the money to repay all government debt in full. Budgets would then not have to find interest and capital repayments enabling a naturally more balanced budget from which, hopefully growth could emerge without cuts.

    Consider when the BoE QEs 50bn straight into bankers bonuses (ok a bit of an exagertion) but if that same money had ben QEd into paying our debt interest for a year, Osborne would not have to find so many cuts, for his budget would be better balanced.

    Ok inflation, devaluation, import costs issues etc would need a close eye kept on, but with a careful hand and wisdom it would solve the problem overnight. Enabling investment and growth to occur the following day.

    Remember money is just a man made invention to make our lives easier, yet now we are being hurt by the greed and egos of those who are addicted to it.


  20. 70
    the clever one says:

    why cannot we find money hidden down the back of the sofa l;ike the aussies just did — see below from yahoo.

    SYDNEY (Reuters) – Australians are suddenly a whole lot better off after the government statistician “found” A$325 billion (£209 billion) in share assets previously unrecognised.
    The Australian Bureau of Statistics on Thursday released its latest report on household assets which included massive upward revisions to estimates for equity holdings. Total financial assets were now put at A$3.1 trillion at the end of March, compared to the originally reported A$2.77 trillion.
    The revision is worth roughly A$14,380 (£9,200) for every one of the country’s 22.6 million people.


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