It’s All of Them, Janet
Janet Daley has caused a bit of a stir this afternoon after she has declared that lots of Tories are rude to her:
“Time to tell the truth about the “nasty” party: as someone who has defended the Conservatives (or at least defended their arguments) for so many years, it is time to come clean. Tories can be bloody difficult to like. The Andrew Mitchell Debacle is not an uncharacteristic, deranged and inexplicable lapse. It is just an extreme example of the kind of attitude with which many people who circulate in this world are familiar.
…it is the Tory modernisers – perhaps because they are more likely to be “toffs” than striving achievers from ordinary backgrounds – who are the worst. It is not the Thatcherite, aspirational, state school-educated Tories who look over your shoulder when they are talking to you: it is the snotty, condescending “one nation” paternalists for whom you are only of interest so long as you are being “supportive” (ie as faithful as a Labrador). No names, no pack drill, but you know who you are.”
Guido is not sure he agrees completely with her analysis. He tends to find that if you ask a politician of any persuasion a question they don’t want to hear, and they can very quickly turn into a Mitchell of the highest order.
Yes there are some spectacularly rude Tory politicians, but then there were equally poisonous elements of the last government. Instead of being forced out of politics, many of these thugs have been given key positions on the Labour benches and in the highest echelons Ed’s team. The main difference being that at least under this government hacks and commentators – like Daley – are speaking out about what they see, rather than being complicit in a pact of silence that allowed a lunatic to become our Prime Minister. Arrogance and rudeness is sadly often part and parcel with the personality required to want to go anywhere near the green benches, you don’t have to scratch very far below the surface to find it on all sides of the House…
Yep!
All the same, they forget that is Brown who pinned a member of staff up against the wall and hurled nokias!
But that was “passion” ….
That was just ‘Gordon being Gordon’, same as Prescott thumping some bloke, that was just ‘John being John’
And then there is Farage.
Diane Abbott can be extraordinarily rude and will not countenance anyone who disagrees with her. You can tell she is lying because she does not look you in the eye while talking.
And, presumably, because her lips are moving.
‘… being complicit in a pact of silence that allowed a lunatic to become our Prime Minister.’
Dissing Tony Bliar Guido, I like it. Plus you show amazingly acute analytical acumen in that remark.
More state educated Tories and less Mitchells and Camerons please.
‘Fewer’, you ignorant git.
…less Mitchells and Camerons please.
I’ve got to say I wouldn’t mind seeing bits trimmed off them to encourage some humility in our politicians.
yaaawn @26 same old bs
Given the meaning of your name and our past disagreements I never thought I would say this – I agree with you. It is patently obvious to any observer that Farrago has neither the mind to be properly rude or the physique to duff up anything more than a Bercow. And that is overlooking the fact that taking offence is rather difficult when having laughing fits at the pompous nature of his pontificating. Long may he stay around – best stand up comedian of the year.
I think I may be supported by one Mon. Barosso, who I happen to regard in rather the same ranking as Farrage. Yes Farrage should be in comedy. Well he already is, rather.
Yes, very true.
I have had several conversations with Mr Farage after BG meetings and the like. Janet Daley’s remark about politicians looking over your shoulder unfortunately apply to him as well. It is very noticeable how, even in informal and light-hearted situations such as the pub, Mr Farage will never look you in the eye.
If all the current speculation about Tory-UKIP deals ever amounts to anything, Farage will fit very nicely into Cameron’s bunch. I wouldn’t trust any of them.
C’mon Tracey luv, I’m your boss so bend over the desk and let me twang your suspenders… oops, sorry, wrong Mike Hunt.
I’d like to say now it was an honest mistake and I’m sorry for anyone reading about it.
If he had pinned me against a wall he would be getting his collar felt, and I would be looking ofr a new job, closely followed by him after his conviction.
I can’t help thinking.
How much did she pay to have her hair styled and coloured to resemble a used bog brush?
Did thinking help?
For the life of me … Who is she?
What is she seeking in her self-serving rant?
She’s more of the same from what I can work out!
Could be one of the reasons why people look over her shoulder, so that they don’t burst out laughing.
Totty watch
Janet began life in Berkeley
Like your old sparring partner Dolly the Dwaper
If I remember
Any thoughts on that Guido ?!
People laugh at me and the Tory Boys are rude to me.
I can’t think why!
Is it something I said?
He tends to find that if you ask a politician of any persuasion a question they don’t want to hear, and they can very quickly turn into a Mitchell of the highest order.
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Try Steve Baker for another who won’t answer questions.
A good example of a real over-privileged, arrogant bastard is the tax expert QC who ejected the excellent young pranksters who gatecrashed Dave “Keep your money, old chap’”Harnett’s retirement dinner at Oxford , given by his grateful beneficiaries (video on Youtube, priceless). ” You are trespassing scum” and “leave before we set the dogs on you’ are two highlights from this charmer’s performance.
I thought it showed class … oh, I see …
Do you mean the honey called Robert?
Janet Daley is barking.
Dunno, as a Telegraph reader who fears the paper is morphing into a sort of Guardian I’ve always thought she talked more sense than most.
She is just past her sell by date poor thing
Journos should retire at 45 in fact – they have nothing useful to say by then
Just look at “Sir” Shyte Whyte foir example
Guido handed over this blog to a young pale imitation, in time…
Or Polly….
Yes, but at least Polly has aspirations, she might actually rise to a point of competence where she can actually hear a refrain in the office…
‘Polly put the kettle on!’
Does Janet have a grand daughter? Boaz.
Yes, Maggie!
what, with a big merkin on her head?
Janet Daley is a goddess and I’m perfectly well thank you.
I think he face lift has gone wrong
The facelift was fine, but the body dropped.
Amateur !
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All I can say Janet is well said maybe if someone in each party tell their respective leaders what Janet Daley has said the parties, might, just might, not holding my breath though, do something about it, the leaderships of the parties have developed the “are they one of us” to the extreme
The passwords of the Labour Party, you might say
Makes the Toffs look quite inoffensive really….
Rubbish. As three syllable words they would never get fixed in the minds of most Labour MPs. It is well known in Westminster that Buggery, Thuggery and Skulduggery are the affectionate party nicknames for Liam Fox, Aidan Burley and Bill Cash.
All politicians should be regarded as borderline psychopaths and criminals by the nature of their trade. Government and all that surrounds it is coercion by violence and that means the most likely to succeed are those that gravitate to criminality. In fact once they give up politics most will move into private organised crime such as banks, arms manufacturers or other large corporations. If you didn’t have these outlets they would just have to join the mafia or some other nefarious group. Having said that it’s difficult to determine where government, corporation and mafia begin or end.
Sshhhhh….
We have bought London so don’t try to determine where …
She’s complaining about folk looking over her shoulder when they talk to her. Let’s be honest – would you want to look at her face?
How very ungallant.
I would be wistfully looking over her shoulder at the exit with thoughts about how the hell I got myself into this, and never to do that again, not EVEN on a STAG NIGHT!
Anyway – there’s a perfectly innocent explanation for looking over her shoulder, you’re admiring her hair! Uses volumiser?
But if anyone is looking over her shoulder, is she talking ‘to him’ or ‘at him’? I assume, she’s got him gagged and cuffed to stop him from running screaming out the building…
Such a pity about the pact of silence that allowed a lunatic to become Prime Minister in 1979
It’s the same silence that now dosen’t mention the shit that went down throughout the great terror.
Doesn’t work. Poor effort.
Try harder!
Meanwhile the child-raping gangs continue pretty much unabated their decades-long vileness.
Another pact of silence from plod, social cervixes, politicians and journalists. And pretty much any other person or organisation preferring Political Correctness to evidence.
One thing only stands head and shoulders – (may I mention shoulders? they’re very sensitive in young woman especially when you start to caress them) – above all the rest – (that includes the breasts, thighs, back and buttocks – may I mention buttocks?) – and that is Political Correctness – (the correct way to fondle a breast is to . . . ) but where was I? – ah yes, – the Importance of Political Correctness regarding fondling and kiddy-fiddling – I’ll come back to this later – I’ve got a visit to make!
I agree entirely with your sentiments but you’ve got the year wrong….surely you meant 2007 ?
Nope it was the start of Britain’s decline into terminal dementia, which is explained by having an increasing pensioner population.
Proof positive is the re-elections in 1983, 1987, the fact we fooled into thinking that Conservative is Tory by the 1992 election and got liberalism instead!
We then looked to the closet tory in 1997, 2001, 2005, giving us another 11 years of tory rule. We tried Labour for a couple of years, didn’t like it, and decided we’d much prefer to be on the recieving end of a bunch o’clueless sanctimonious glove puppet’s policies instead.
We just don’t like being told we’re plebs – that’s all!!
Sadly I say we, as seemingly with UK politics we’re all in sh*t together!
With a few honourable exceptions, Labour just stood by as Brown became PM – but that’s how we’d expect the clueless idiots to behave. How long before they realise Miliband is heading for a big defeat in 2015?
What I cannot forgive about Brown’s coronation is the behaviour of the MSM. They got it very, very wrong. Yet they wonder why nobody buys newspapers and television audiences are falling.
I belive Paul Dacre was a big fan of McDoom.
Bring back 2 Jags Prezza fer a punch in yer face.
Nun of yer sissy coppaaa potty mouth antics. A gud puch in yer pie hole yer syurther nancy boyz
Perhaps if more journalists found the courage to publicly lambast rude mp’s in print we’d finally start to develop a few decent one’s and get rid of the majority who are bad.
And Guido’s quite right whilst mitchell is an example of the foul on the tory benches we don’t have to look far to find his equal on the other benches – think twatson for instance.
Equal?
I think you find that party are the masters – remember when they had that old chap thrown out of their conference and arrested for daring to speak up when lies were being told.
Get real Nell. The media is full of bullies ready to bully anyone who does not support the Labour Party.
Perhaps if more Tories and Libdems gave Paxman, Wark and the other bbc lefties a bunch of fives every once in a while …
Your assumption is that the Lib-Dim’s and Dave’s ‘pwogwessive’ Towies are not themselves as left wing as Labour. I beg to differ, they are one in the same. The BBC’s distaste is based on tribal loyalty, rather than philosophical difference among any of the big three.
A bit of fisting up a dark passageway is what most of them deserve, I agree..
Channel 4 news is full of bullying failed journos.
It has nothing to do with politics.
You don’t get many thin skinned, soft centred wall flowers in politics.
Only because those of who are sensitive tend to have come a bit unstuck at the behaviour of politicians in the past. Take a tip from me never accuse a life long politician of being a bully if you want an easy time. I did. Mind you I would do it again, having been through the mill once I am a bit wiser and a little tougher nowadays, but if good men do nothing and all that.
Wasn’t it Cameron who said something like the best disinfectant is transparency?
Let’s hope that he drinks some.
Cameron will say almost anything to curry favour and then spin like a top to distance himself from his own words, if they get so much as a peep of media disaproval.
There’s been more cliches on here today than Albrecht Durer had steel engravings; all worn smoother than an apothecary’s pantry.
Or Jordan’s front behind, I’m telling you.
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Red nose, carrot hair, ruby lips and fake black eyelashes and she’d be a dead ringer for MacMental.
Bonkers
I was a hairs breath away from the Commisioners job under Labour.
“… a pact of silence that allowed a lunatic to become our Prime Minister”
Such a wonderful description of David Cameron,well done Guido.
Weak and unoriginal, Cameron may well be a dripping wet fabian, but he’s no loon like Brown.
For someone with the label Boris Johnson to call anyone else a lunatic is rather like the Pope criticising someone for being a catholic.
..and what was that about Fabians? Dripping wet, you say?
Like a bit of a sprinkle with a fireman’s hose, or so I’m told..
Or the Catholic Church pontificating about morality !
I am a One Nation Tory
That is why I am a founder member of the Chipping Norton Set
Only oligarchs, criminals and fox hunters (and their horses) can be members
No plebs
We are all in this together, you see
Can we be honorary members then Dave ?
We pay handsomely you know
As long as we’re on the subject of oligarchs, Mikhail Dmitrievich Prokhorov opens his new sports arena-cum-concert hall, the Barclays Center, in Brooklyn, NY on Friday, with a series of concerts by his partner in the ownership of the Brooklyn NBA team, Jay-Z. No word on whether Gordon will stick around for the show or whether Bob Diamond is invited.
Bob ‘Hold My Dick’ Diamond seems to have dissapeared from the radar
Is he under investigation by the Feds?
Does he need our help?
We have paid Diamond off and to keep quiet
And put our army of public relations toadies onto restoring our pristine reputation
We are all this together, you see
that scrote mandelson was, of course, a real gent.
And Alistair Campbell. A proper gentleman too. Like the Krays.
The trouble is people like Mandleson and Campbell actually believe themselves to be marvellous and of use to the country. Twats the pair of them!
Taking my name in vain again ?
The Duchesses love my guacamole and oil…
Just like all thre crooks of the world love my address book and…
Tell us about your contract with Lazards please, Mandy
and how you widen the circle of your friends.
- I widen my circle!
Bit difficult to go after Mandy when there are more bankers in Conservative ranks than fondlers in the College of Cardinals.
Too right. Mandy isn’t a c*unt for being associated with bankers. He’s a c*unt for being a Blair/Brown enabler.
At least I only said “chump” not “pleb”
Oh, all MPs are a shower of twunts. From the few I’ve met (4) they are all arrogant cocks who would be punched senseless on a regular basis if they were to perform their twattery around ‘normal’ people.
I’m not one for stirring the pot, but we really need a total eradication of current MPs and start from scratch. There is very little good left.
+ 1 !!
+1000000000000000000000000000000000000
I’m terribly good! – what?
That my friend is the basic problem with democracy, you get the rulers who can con you with their plausibility rather than those with real ability.
Any answer to this and you are on your way to fame and riches.
You also get an electorate where the majority barely have the thought process to breathe and yet we allow them to vote.
You should have to pass an IQ test before you vote.
Or breed for that matter.
Test the system first on those returned to stand as our Parliamentary representatives. It’s only reasonable, before the wider electorate gets the benefit of excellent suggestion.
Sharks and frenzies… even professional courtesies may not apply?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19716941
“BBC apology to Queen over Abu Hamza disclosure”
I’m not sure an apology is enough as this must be a resigning matter in the new world order.
Unless…. somehow, this time, it’s ‘different’?
Where is the BBC’s moral compass?
Bit of a problem with it – what with the poles changing! North is East and South is where we have our gulag for Conservative interviews!
Gardner must be made bow before the Queen to express his regret.
No zimmer permitted
BBC has no moral compass; PM programme leads with the BBC’s apology and then features the whole thing with relish.
Apology totally worthless and without meaning.
That struck me as well.
Spot how ‘persons connected’ range in response from ‘no comment’ to noisily shouting “LOOK AT ME. ME ME ME ME ME”:
A spokeswoman for Buckingham Palace said it would “never comment on private conversations involving any member of the Royal Family”.
The Home Office also said it would not comment on such conversations;
Former Home Secretary David Blunkett said “categorically” that the Queen never raised the issue of Abu Hamza with him;
Labour MP Keith Vaz, chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee, said it showed “how deeply concerned” the Queen is for the “welfare of her subjects”.. “Not surprisingly,” he said, “because my views and attitude in relation to this individual were very well known.”
Labour MP Keith Vaz, chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Select Committee, said it showed “how deeply concerned” the Queen is for the “welfare of her subjects”.
It’s not different. The BBC is impugning the integrity of a serving monarch, and should resign. Or, a hundred lashes for Andrew Marr and we’ll call it quits.
Eh? I’m logged in as TrollhunterX…
Balls, Draper,McBride, Blunkett, Bliar etc. All bullies.
Very true. Janet’s views were exactly my wife’s opinions whenever she returned from ” Meet the Ministers ” gatherings at 12 Downing Street.
Looking over your shoulder even when they were facing the wall. Patronising, Condescending or just bloody rude.
WHY DO THEY BOTHER?
why did she go?
Not for the expenses. Own cost.
But loves lukewarm vol-au-vents
Stupid bitch, wait til I’ve told my mate Tony to take her for a “walk in the woods” like that nice Dr Kelly, or have her renditioned to Jordan for a bit of high voltage fun with her nether regions.
It’s Labour who are the party of ultraviolence and don’t you forget it.
odd the complicity of silence in the promotion of Brown – that strange phenomenon of people thinking that they should stay silent and being complicit in disaster
cf the rise of Hitler?
It just reflects on the type of people labour MPs were, and still are!
That cozer got off lightly with a bit of verbal, if it had been the really nasty lot still in power he might have ended up in the woods with a rusty penknife in his back, or like the impediment to bLiar had a sudden heart attack. Still his frumpy useless daughter was given an open door into the world of privilege
There was a time , sadly long gone, when going into government or local government was a public service undertaken by genuine people who wanted to contribute to national and local life.
Nowadays its a gravy train, a place for the dishonest, arrogant and grasping to make a quick undeserved fortune paid for by the rest of us.
Might be worth a try. Now where do I start?
nellnewman
We the people have the power, look at what democracy2015 is trying to achieve. I am trying to get myself into EU politics for not dissimilar reasons as I feel that I could make a small positive difference there, and there must be people out there who would be good UK MPs.
Not so, they soon become assimilated into the collective.
Well power can and does corrupt and people are nieve about how skilled politicians can manipulate, but come on there must be some people out there who could serve this nation well while being above the pettiness and darkness of human nature? Surely?
Don’t call me Surely.
The role which you delineate already exists and has been performed within our constitutional settlement for these past sixty years by HMQ, long may she reign!
>nieve
And you want to get into a position to take my money and tell me what to do.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Smart boy.
EU politics = big drinks.
Smart boy as I have professional accountancy qualifications and an economics degree so have a chance of helping to have a positive impact of EU finances, and a track record of standing up to bullies and wrongs in society, to help make society a better place. Also having walked myself out of darkness I sort of know how to do it. Besides I can think out of the box and have a track record of minor peer recognition for inspiring people in various sectors. And really smart for I know that UK Politics would drive me mad as the boys in the house act like bairns in the playground, and where I would have zero ability to have any real (any) impact.
Not so smart if you consider that I would have to leave my disabled wife behind for each week, that I would have to learn languages much better than I currently do, that I would have to stand up to some real darkness of human nature and be constantly frustrated by what I saw.
^^^^
Head-case, ideal politician.
I went there to change it, I told them you can’t buy me boyo! Now I’m a multi millionaire, funny how it all works out in the end eh?
Scum dancing.
EU liked his footwork so much EU bought the whole family.
Your first paragraph ‘service undertaken by genuine people who wanted to contribute to national and local life,’ describes me down to a tee Nell. Boaz.
http://therantingkingpenguin.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/handycock-rides-gravy-train.html
Surely that picture has been doctored? No-one can look THAT scary!
Sarah Brown could easily be a Hitchcock axe murderess, now that’s scary.
The Labour Party are fascists who bully pensioners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4291388.stm
Yer jawking.
MPs and the media all come out of the same sewer.
Oxford Uni!
my tattoos have distorted
Don’t worry Fatty Prescott, the BBC will never reveal you might have ‘read Marx’.
Marx? – only bog paper I could find on board the tramp steamer I started out on – and there were plenty of Marks on it when I finished with I can tell yer!.
Why would a nice person join the conservative party?
For the strippers – that is how the young conservatives recruited me. OK I also voted for them before that but it is true, there was the (unfullfilled) promise of strippers.
For those little cucumber sandwiches. They are super.
Why would an intelligent person join the labour party?
The Labour discos stank of BO, the girls had dirty teeth, hairy legs and didn’t shave their armpits. They all talked with funny regional accents and looked shifty, no competition at all.
Oi!!!
Why do you ask? Do you know one?
Does anybody?
Why would anyone join any of the parties and have to pay them a membership fee? Hard earned money needs looking after better than that!
Be a floating voter – it’s free!
Interesting alternative : Be a party member and vote a floater!
If it’s Brown – flush it down!
Quite right Guido.
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Councillor Moore’s head needs viewed by a larger audience
You managed to get into Berkeley University as a “striving achiever”, but in my book you are still a pleb.
You haven’t heard the last of this!
You were only supposed to use the facking pedestrian gate!
Does it really matter what manners the members of the government have, no matter which ‘side’ they are on?
What really matters are the results. And after 13 years of labour the results are all too clear. 0/10.
That’s 0% growth.
I really don’t think the media can complain about bullying when they are biggest bully in the playground.
It’s not arrogance if one really is superior.
completely agree, I see no reason to lie to one’s inferiors
Enjoyed that analysis – much of the media cowed to both Blair & Brown by way of either enjoying ‘favours’ or because they were too fearful/complicit. This current shambles of a coalition is of course no better except that their greatest skill appears to be presenting an open goal to any critic at the slightest opportunity.
We love own goals
That is how we made our millions
Brits love own goals
In fact Britain is just one huge own goal nowadays
(ask Mandy the specialist)
There has to be something immensely suspect about someone who wants to spend their lifetime creating yet more and more laws for other people to follow but knows all the loopholes before they become entangled.
I am not religious but there are only ten commandments for heaven’s sake. I bet they moaned at Moses when he told them that adultery was still one of them…
her hair looks like she is on the international space station
Sir John Major is an example of a decent,polite, man reaching the highest echelons. Mitchell, an arrogant sod, should be sacked not because he behaved like a twat, we all do that occaisionally, but because he deliberately misled the press and everyone else about what had been said.
He threatened an underling’s career for applying the rules.
He thinks that rules don’t apply to him.
If that police officer had been b lack, Mitchell would have been sacked by now.
Yeah, right – Major said “thanks” to Edwina as she swallowed his emissions.
Very polite.
Odd how people were saying the complete opposite when Thatcher was in the saddle – that the rude ones were the lower middle class thrusters and the police ones were the one nationpaternalists. Still, anything is fair game in politics.
You have clearly suffered a dementia if you do not remember the Blair years when they began to treat victims as criminals.
It was marvellous for the police. It took away the need to do all that difficult detective stuff which taxes the brain power so. They at least knew where the victims lived.
Such a simplified job requirement drew in a whole generation of recruits who would in previous times have been unemployable. It happened in the NHS with box tickers and in almost every other branch of public service which, in itself, became an oxymoronic term.
It happened a long time before Blair.
Twat.
Isn’t it interesting that all of a sudden the BBC is against extradition to the USA? All their reporting is now one sided about how terrible their prisons are and how their justice system isn’t as good as ours.
funny that when middle class honkey’s were being sent over to the USA on the flimsiest of evidence, the BBC stayed silent.
Not funny really they stayed silent about everything for 13 years until the ‘nasty’ Tory party got in again.
We’re impartial – we don’t care how we support the lefties and islamic fundamentalists.
ps don’t mention grown men raping underage teenage girls. We alluded to it once (for a few days actually) but that was ok ‘cos he was white and we were quite excited by the salacious hints we could give.
The media are the bullies. They cannot preach to others about bullying. They are rude, they harass people and they are exploitive bullying cowards. So Janet can fuck off and preach to her own. Sick of the hypocrisy.
Ah, the expert in everything but knowledge of fck all, she’d suit being a politician, all mouth and pretending she has brains.
The media is a joke. Especially the BBC and their bullying games.
OMG
Between Mitchell
“Why am I not on the bloody front pages? Don’t you know I’m the Big Swinging Dick around here?!”
And Diamond’s “Hold My Dick” daughter
It seems the Tories and banksters are hell bent on suicide…
It’s such a shame that there isn’t any audio or visual recording of the previous regime’s bullies ‘in action’ so to speak. Threatening and bullying the little guy.
Would be so nice if someone released that special little clip or two they’ve been hoarding all these years…
“there are some spectacularly rude Tory politicians, but then there were equally poisonous elements of the last government”
Face up to the truth, Greedo.
As human beings, Tories are scum.
Could be because chasing money is one of the quickest routes to darkness known to man.
Money matters for obvious reasons, but when you put profit above all else darkness reigns. Equally though when you dont have it inefficiency tends to reign. So as with most things it is about balance.