September 18th, 2012

Farage Fine Appeal Fails
UKIP Inundated with Americans Offering to Pay It

Nigel Farage has lost his appeal for a €2,990 fine for accusing EU President Herman Van Rompuy of having the charisma of a “damp rag” or a “low-grade bank clerk.”  Apparently the UKIP leader will now have “to bear his own costs and to pay those of the European Parliament.” As Zero Hedge says, they clearly want him to pay off the EU’s debts one fine at a time.

Farage says he is now weighing up his options of further appeal but stands by the “freedom of speech of all elected members, not just for supporters of the EU’s political union.” The press over here have been exceptionally quiet about all this, and thus it’s fallen to Drudge and the Washington Post across the pond to pick it up. Farage’s people tell Guido that they have been inundated with offers from Americans to pay the fine:

“One man was so determined he said that he was going to pay almost the whole lot but as he was only a driver we had to wait until April 2013 to get the money – which obviously we aren’t going to take but it’s lovely to know that there are people in the world who value freedom of speech.”

The silence over here is rather odd.


149 Comments

  1. 1
    Kebab Time says:

    You mean our elected politicians dont even have the freedom of speech?

    Not that we need another reason to leave the EU , but better of out!

    This is outrageous!

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  2. 2
    Hopeful says:

    I’ll chip in a fiver.

    Typical uk press to not cover it though

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  3. 3
    Meanwhile yet again says:

    Tell em to fuck off, Nige.

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  4. 4
    Sue Doughty says:

    UKIP, as a British political party, is barred from taking money from foreigners so he must not accept it in the name of UKIP

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    • 19
      Spitz von Duuuunnnngle says:

      It’s a personal fine on him.. so anyone can pay it!

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      • 110
        Ivor Tapeworm says:

        The story does not even say Farage has accepted any foreign donation, only that they have been offered.

        Feedom of speech in the EU (including the UK) is becoming very fragile.

        I thank the Americans who made these gestures. At least they understand the importance of what is at stake.

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  5. 5
    David says:

    So the interests of a British political shall be directed by overseas donors. What happened to the Independence in UKIP…

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  6. 8
    nick says:

    What’s his problem? What does Farage have against damp rags anyway? What an unfair comparison.

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  7. 10
    Muhammad jihad says:

    Durka Durka!

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  8. 11
    monkey for sale says:

    He should agree to pay the fine the day after their accounts have been singed off.

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  9. 12
    DZ says:

    Speech should be free, however, would £5 cover calling Brown a wanker?

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    • 102
      Handycock Capo di Capo Soviet Republic of Portsmouth says:

      There is too much belittling the Elite in public and online; it should stop. The fine on Mr Farage is too little to set a proper example, it should have been set much higher to put the fear of god in to anyone criticising elite politicians. The correct example is being set in Russia where any criticism of the President or ruling elite results in state harassment or imprisonment. We should follow their example in the West, I am already implementing this policy in Portsmouth. Boaz.

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  10. 13
    Tardkiller says:

    The silence over here is rather odd.

    is that because hes a troughing wanker

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  11. 14
    Terrible But True says:

    ‘The silence over here is rather odd’
    —-

    In some media-monopoly, questions-will-be-asked, power-must-be-held-to-account cases, to another, almost now to a consistently ‘unique’ degree.

    *Views are my own and I am not a BBC employee, so I probably can’t say what I want*

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    • 36
      BBC News Editor says:

      We will not be reporting this non-story. yet. We need to give it the on-message treatment first.

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      • 89
        Anonymous says:

        It is a story the fact is its one you don’t like because of the BBC’s devotion to the EU. Does BBC Now mean BRUSSELS bROADCASTING CORP?

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  12. 16
    Thick as a Planck says:

    What happened to the previous thread Misery Index?

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  13. 20
    Dellers for PM says:

    Herman Van Rompuy is a cu nt.

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  14. 21
    Owd Grumpy says:

    How much more evidence do we need

    If an elected member can not criticise an UNELECTED official without being fined then what price democracy.

    What next incarceration ??

    Vote UKIP and get out of this corrupt Dictatorship

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    • 75

      Agree with everything you say – except the last bit.

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      • 78
        UK Person says:

        What’s your solution then?

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        • 88

          Not UKIP, that’s a fact – but thanks for asking!

          I like my spivvy, troughing MP’s to be a bit more predictable.

          Crash Bandicoot DOES talk well though! Sadly, you need so much more than that, as is evident with the current crop of front benchers – who are indeed a bunch of fronts.

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          • Anonymous says:

            NF has been entirely predictable, with the same message for the last 10 years. How much more predictable do you want? You just know exactly what he’s going to say. He has never U-turned or changed his stance.

            The predictability of Ed Millipede saying capitalism and socialism are the two sides of the same coin, or the “We will have a referendum ( so long as the things that are going to happen soon happen sooner than I can put of a referendum) Cameron

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  15. 24
    Ralph Dellor says:

    I can’t think of anything he’s said that is slanderous because it’s accurate. So why the fine?

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  16. 25
    Sandra in Accounts says:

    “THE SILENCE OVER HERE”…..

    Client state media, tamed & neutered newspapers & a single party state with three factions in it.

    Welcome to East Germany.

    Tenner in the post Nigel.

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  17. 26
    Raving Loon says:

    Farage is closer to American actual conservatism as apposed to Dave’s fake conservatism.

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  18. 27
    alex weir says:

    Radio silence by the toadying and venal british so-called media is nothing new. And i would regard the description of hermann as understatement and in fact flattery. The democratic west once again showing its dark side. Alex weir, botswana

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  19. 28
    lastofthesummervintage says:

    i am a UKIP member and i will chip in to pay for it
    but Nigel should go tell them to F**K off

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  20. 29
    Terrible But True says:

    ‘So the interests of a British political shall be directed by overseas donors. What happened to the Independence in UKIP…’

    Probably went, or is going the same way as all other so-called ‘nothing to hide’ parties, especially the main ones.

    I don’t imagine it’s too hard to get money from anywhere or anyone ‘off the books’ via intermediaries, or odd entities that are as British as half the MADE IN BRITAIN stuff one gets sold these days.

    I agree that rules are rules and precedents are precedents, but with the whole shebang as bent now as a 9Euro coin getting high horsey on one really invites the others being under the microscope too.

    But that’s not really how the politico-media establishment now works, is it?

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  21. 30
    Sophie says:

    £20 from me – I hope the EU choke on it.

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  22. 32
    FaabXJR says:

    Never in the history of the EU, was money so well spent! Long live the freedom of speech! Nigel always +1 (wishing there was someone in The Netherlands who was just as well spoken as you)

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  23. 33
    White Van Man says:

    So freedom of speech & freedom of honest expression by an elected member of the EU in that so called Parliament can now be crushed by an un-elected & unaccountable civil servant?

    It would be funny if it were not so scary – the implications & similarities with the old USSR and the Third Reich are startling.

    Tenner from me to the British bloke speaking his mind.

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    • 34
      Tom says:

      What is it with Europe and dictatorships? Every few decades or so another form or the same old Euopean control freakery rears its head.

      How long will it take to smash this one I wonder? How many quizzlings and Oswald Moseleys like Clegg are we going to have to execute as a lesson to the arrogance of these treaonous hoons?

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  24. 35
    Anonymous says:

    He’ll surely get more ‘mileage’ out of refusing to pay.

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  25. 39
    TomCatesby says:

    This should be made as public as possible in this country, so those who still remain in any doubt about the iniquity of the EU leadership can learn. What a thin skinned arrogant bastard Rumpoy must be and a scary example of how dangerously unaccountable and undemocratic the whole thing is. Where’s our referendum you gutless shits?!

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  26. 40
    Wonga says:

    If you’re a bit, shall we say, “financially embarrassed” at the moment, we can lend you the three grand until your next payday @ 4,000% interest, Nigel. Usually we only do a grand, but we know you’re good for it. Keep us in mind; you know how to reach us on the web.

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  27. 41
    Thick as a Planck says:

    Now if Cameron had the balls to refer to Miliband as having the charisma of a “damp rag” or a “low-grade bank clerk.” at the next PMQs…..

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  28. 42
    English Heretic says:

    Silence from the EBC, sorry BBC, on all matters unflattering to the great EU Socialist paradise superstate in the making? surely not!

    Next you’ll be telling me they believe in all that CO2 AGW guff too, oh, hold on…..

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  29. 43
    Tomorrow's Chip Wrapper says:

    He should refuse to pay and dare the EU President;Parliament and Commission do their worse…..which will be totally NOTHING at all

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    • 64
      UKIP.i.am.awake says:

      Farage should pay the fine when France and Germany pay the fine for exceeding their borrowing level v GDP way back before Greece started to get creative with their debt.

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    • 145
      Bugler Bert says:

      Does anyone remember that radio comedy series with Kenneth Williams as Rambling Sid Rumpo……..We ought to call a certain “Euro” clown the modern-day Rambling…….

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  30. 44
    Anonymous says:

    About time Cameron and Clegg took some notes from Nigel Farage

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    • 115

      Why? Are they looking for some tips on starting an offshore educational trust in the Channel Islands?

      Perhaps advice on how to divert EU expenses to use on a UK political party – oh no, hang on, you get fined for that, I think.

      Perhaps they want to borrow his brilliant book “How to land light aircraft”.

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  31. 45
    Fred says:

    Expressing opinions, telling the truth and stating facts now incur fines from the EU. Whatever next? Draconian regulation is the last resort of a desperate regime.

    Van Rompuy does indeed have the charisma of a Damp Rag. Please fine me!

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  32. 47
    TomCatesby says:

    P.S. £20 from me Nigel, where do I send the cash?

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  33. 52
    Thick as a Planck says:

    CHEER UP ! things will get allot worse:-

    The organizers say their new “parliament” will be called “Umma Schweiz” and be based on the principles of Islamic Sharia law. The headquarters of the organization will be located in Basel with “representatives” in all 26 cantons (or “states”) of Switzerland. The first “test vote” of Umma Schweiz will be held in the fall of 2012; the group will be fully functional in 2013.

    Ummah, an Arabic word that means “nation,” refers to the entire Muslim community throughout the world. In recent years, Muslims have stepped up efforts to unify the globally fragmented ummah in an effort to revive an Islamic Caliphate or empire. Many Muslim scholars view the political unification of the ummah as a prerequisite to the consolidation of global Muslim power and the subsequent establishment of an Islamic world order

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  34. 53
    Spotted Dick says:

    Farage could not ask for better publicity. Don’t pay and then what? Arrest? Ejection of an elected member by an unelected committee?

    Comedic that the EU have managed to score such a potential own goal during a resurgence in Western interest in the concept of free speech as a result of the Prophet film incident.

    Morons.

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  35. 56
    Black Barty says:

    I like a man that speaks his mind. A man after my own heart. The EU is stuffed to the gunnels with grey people..indeed damp rags making decisions for all and taking wages they dont really earn. The EU is sucking the life out of this country thats for sure. Any derogatory remarks about the EU is ok by me.

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    • 61
      Anonymous says:

      I’ve always considered Farage to be a bit of a tosser, but I guess that in Brussels, only being a BIT of a tosser makes you into some kind of superhero.

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    always been a bank clerk says:

    What €2,990 fine? All this for 3 thousand euros?
    Baise toi Farrage.

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  38. 60
    Realist says:

    Sounds like Guido might just be starting an appeal himself. Why not?

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  39. 63
    Encore says:

    I will certainly chip in if he does it again.

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    • 84
      Gawd Help Us says:

      Couldn’t we have a collection so that we could have 10,000 Euros worth of insults to shove up on You Tube?

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  40. 65
    Leftluver says:

    If we each send an e-mail/ letter to our respective MP and copy to Cam protesting at the EUSSR’s treatment of a MEP it could have some traction with the other media outlets, but on the other hand perhaps not.

    Eventually the peeples are going to have to take a stand because the UK is heading for an even worse socialist state.

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  41. 66
    David Davis says:

    I’ll chip in with the 2,990 Euros.

    The T-shirt sales are flying off the shelves,thank you.

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    • 82
      UKIP.i.am.awake says:

      How about of T-shirt with a picture of Nigel Farage with the words:

      Don’t blame me. I didn’t even get a chance not to vote for the EU, Rumpoy or Barroso.

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  42. 68
    A Damp Rag says:

    Seig Heil !

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  43. 74
    Thick as a Planck says:

    About time we had another Prophet

    Farage

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  44. 76
    Penfold says:

    Nothing’s said as the media are all closet/crypto EuroFascists.

    Farage say it as it is, which is anathema to those scumbags in Brussels.

    Who voted for Von Rumpuy? or that Marxist muppet Barosso? not the man in the street, just a bunch of troughing, corrupt, mendacious, apparatchiks.

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  45. 79
    UKIP rules says:

    Nige for PM!

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  46. 86
    Captain Mainwaring says:

    Don’t tell ‘em your name Nige

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  47. 90
    johnwardmedway says:

    I think insults such as that are pushing at the boundaries of freedom of speech, and – worse – open the doors to those who wish to censor the likes of N Farage. In effect, he played into their hands and should perhaps have been a little more astute.

    Nigel’s problem here is that this is his style: he doesn’t have the style, finesse and ability of Daniel Hannan, yet is trying to do what D Hannan so famously did to James (a.k.a. Gordon) Brown.

    The Farage style is what keeps him in the news and invited onto television, and is the only real thing giving UKIP any public awareness – and he is obviously well aware of both of those.

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    • 96
      johnwardmedway says:

      Incidentally, while they remain Lefty trolls and idiots (often the same thing) referring to George Osborne as ‘Gideon’, then for consistency we should all refer to Brown as ‘James’ for exactly the same reason, adding the ‘a.k.a. Gordon’ for the benefit of those who weren’t aware of his real given forename.

      If this becomes a widely-adopted practice, and with the reason for it stated where appropriate, I think it should stop the ‘Gideonites’ trying to manufacture such a non-attack line in future. It should certainly be tried.

      It’s what has long been known as ‘fighting fire with fire’…

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    • 147
      Anonymous says:

      Dr James Gordon Brown to be precise. Something his working class voters aren’t allowed to know.

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  48. 105
    Rupert my Hero says:

    My American friends tell me that our Nige is fast becoming a Star in News Circles there, in fact an interview with Fox News,he suggested that contrary to the Euro Party Line, America was not responsible for E U Financial Problems.
    Whilst America’s financial troubles were seeded in the Clinton Era, the Eu structure was the cause of its own downfall.

    Problem with the EU is rather simple… if you do not recognise something is wrong, then you will not put it right.

    He was wrong about Holland though

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  49. 108
    Geordieboy says:

    Well done Nigel. The big problem is that if you are a polititian and you speak the truth or say what other people can only think you are not only hounded by the opposition but by your own party. They hate the truth, I know I have been there and done that.

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  50. 113
    Camoron, a dead man walking says:

    Well done Nigel.

    You got my vote as a disaffected Tory of 35 years standing.

    These people are frightening. Keep it up.

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  51. 122
    Anonymous says:

    OUT OF THE EU NOW AND QUICKLY!!! F..K BANK TECHNOCRATS!!

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  52. 123
    keredybretsa says:

    Perhaps Mr F is not so high on the likable list!

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  53. 125
    Jody Jaycloth and Co says:

    2990 Euro, we’ll send you a year’s supply of damp rags for that!

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  54. 126
    MB. says:

    What can they do if he does not pay apart from exclude him from the parliament and deduct from payments to him?

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  55. 127
    isolationist says:

    What’s this EU about then ? Do they know what they are doing ? We should leave. So what if the economy struggles then it wouldn’t be such an attractive place for everybody to move into and we could get on with building a proper research and industrial base as we see fit.

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  56. 128
    Where O where can I find Democracy says:

    “The silence over here is rather odd!” That’s a bit of an understatement even for you Guido. The silence has been deafening about all kinds of things for years. The lies, half truths, ommissions and propaganda have been very loud and plentiful.
    I despise the treasonous Labour/Lib/Con axis of evil and its running dog lick spittle the National Union of Journalists. I admire Farage and others of his ilk for saying publicly what they believe, even when I disagree.
    Thanks for this blog too Guido.
    Long live the coming Revolution and the English Liberation Activitists militant tendency. At the next election vote for anyone but Lib/Lab/Con.

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  57. 129
    Rural Housewife says:

    a) I hadn’t noticed that Americans allow too much free speech
    b) we have had one Tony Blair doing everything the Americans told him to
    for heavens sake don’t lets get another, the only thing Americans are interested in is America
    c) Yes, power has gone to EU ministers heads and they want cutting down
    but
    if you spent the first years of your life in a hole in the ground called an air raid shelter whilst Germans tried to kill you and then your early teens learning about radiation sickness-and trying to ‘ban the bomb’ before we all got incinerated then perhaps an arguing but loosely united Europe might look the best bet?
    Just a thought.

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  58. 131
    Christian_J. says:

    Nigel farage is a hero, he is the only one in that EU whorehouse with the balls to stand up and tell it the way it is. The place is run by Marxists and socialist incompetents. He is quite right at pointing that out. That entire parliament is a complete and utter farce. A public disgrace.

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  59. 136
    Rural Housewife says:

    Of course Nigel is a hero to Americans -they definitely do not want a Europe that is even loosely united.

    I do agree with a lot that Nigel said but in this modern life we cannot be isolated. The U.K. has to face facts. The EU might have too much power but I bet the English Business men extradited to America without breaking any laws and put in chains (how very civilized!) would rather be there that where they are.

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  60. 138
    FlipC says:

    Has anyone here bothered to read the court ruling?

    Farange was informed to return “10 daily subsistence allowances” of 2980 Euros (roughly £200/day) due to a failure to uphold rule 9 of the Rules of Procedure; presumably 9(2) “Members’ conduct shall be characterised by mutual respect”.

    He then failed to lodge an appeal with the General Court within the time limits which is why he’s been ordered to pay the costs.

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  61. 141
    Xavier Onassis says:

    I have a UKIP “damp rag” tea-towel with a picture of the Great Man himself (Rumpoy-Pumpoy) on it, and delighted in using it to wash up my pots while camping in Europe this summer. Who voted for this boring nonentity, apparently the highest-paid President of any ‘democratic’ body on the planet?

    The EU stinks, I always thought it would turn into the 4th Reich. Let’s get out while we can (no chance with that dithering oaf Cameron at the helm, sadly).

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  62. 144
    UKIP voter now says:

    UKIP are going to give the Conservatives a bloody nose.

    Cameron you have probably been through the last chance saloon.

    Everybody in the UK is fed up with the Conservatives and that is coming from a lifelong Conservative voter, financial supporter, canvasser, door knocker, host of local Association parties.

    That idiot Mitchell being so rude to the Policeman at the gates of Downing St on his bike behaved just like all the other lycra louts on two wheels. It doesn’t matter about fact now, it is the perception.

    What in God’s name do we need to do to make the Conservatives wake up? Perhaps they know it’s over and are just carrying on regardless? The arrogance, ineptness, lack of common touch and self serving interests some of the Conservative MP’s have is breathtaking.

    It is not just in the HofC this can be witnessed. Up and down the country even in the Tory Shires it is evident. Tragic but nothing lasts forever.

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  63. 148
    Anonymous says:

    I’m selling “Van Rompoy” tea towels, any takers?

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